What's stopping you from making your own game?
because that takeshi in the image is clearly not enjoying it
>>736610792lol he really isnt.
Laziness
>>736610723I want whatever crts they are using
Laziness and the fear of bugs
>>736610723I don't know how to animate
>>736611579hire an animator
I'm incredibly lazy. like an extreme chronic procrastinator. professional even
>>736611612Can't afford it and even if I could what's the point if it's not my work it's not my game Maybe one day AI will be good enough to animate my shit
Im not an artist and artists have managed to convince gamers that the only thing that matters in games is the art and that the game is secondary to that. Not much point making a game if an artist with a claudecode account can use that to find success but if I dare use generative AI to help make any of the art then I will be attacked endlessly by the artist mafia.
>>736610723Mortality
>>736611841actually now that I think about it even using AI will feel wrong
>>736610723even if I end up making it, I won't ever release it, because I believe dreams should be kept to oneself and never shared
>>736611841>cant afford itMeanwhile, you will spend hundreds of dollars on gachas and cosmetic shit in games each week. Yes you fucking can.
>>736612124no I don't
>>7366107230 artistic ability
>>736614068You can easily find an indie animator to work with you. Just throw some money at him for work he does. Negotiate a rate. Tell him why your project is worth working on. Use placeholders until you find one. Stop being lazy and making excuses.
>>736614136Find an artist.
>>736614282I aint paying niggas squat
>>736614318Work isn't free.
I am psychologically incapable. I can program, I can art, I have a good design sense, I have the ideas, but I just can't work on a thing longer than 1 or 2 months at most before I get depressed and quit doing anything for the next 6 months.
>>736610723Maths too hard
>>736610723not enough free timenot enough talent and/or money to make/get assets
>>736614695Finally someone gets it. It's just fucking work after a point and a very low chance of payoff to boot. That's why only shameless autists make it, and why solo devs are so insufferable. They are blind to their own flaws that helps them stay motivated, and are not a little arrogant and stupid at business. Only luck carries the few to stardom.But if you are a beginner hobbyist it could be fun.
>>736612124>gacha fags just assume everyone else is retarded like they are.
Now that Gabe senpai is releasing S&box everything is possible.
>>736610723don't like programming
>>736610723whoa
>>736615462I miss camera artifacts
>>736610723boobies
>>736615665make a game about boobies
It's like with music: I enjoy it, I wouldn't want to make it. The same with vidya. If anything I'd make a game based on my dad's high school years of getting into fights and stuff.
>>736610723The only idea i can think of is a Pog game using motion controls for the slamming. And that's only because of that pog thread from yesterday. And i didnt even really like the things back in the day. Some of the designs and slammers were cool, but wasnt my cuppa tea
how's godot for 3D in terms of performance?i was reminded of it after playing slay the spire 2, but that game is 2d
>>736610723I suck at art
if I bothered to make a game it'd be something relatively easy, using something like gb studio or rpg maker or maybe renpy if I had good enough ideas for a mystery vn. and I don't know, there are already a ton of games made with those. sure I have ideas, but they're not necessarily good ideas or ideas that I'd be able to execute
>>736610723My son. I am a stay at home dad to a 4 year old. I have been with him everyday since he spawned on this bitch of an earth. The missus works from home as a CPA so we have solid income and she's determined I don't work so I can teach our son. I am fine with all of that, but I am with him from sunrise to sunset, through everything. I do not have days off. I do not have time to split my attention. Even posting like this is rare but he's eating so whatever. But despite all efforts to try and game dev. I can't ignore my son. God am I fucking exhausted.
>>736610723Why does this guy look AI generated?
>>736610723Programming good enemy AI is hard. Juggling the rest of the aspects of game development and having to fill so many roles as a solo developer makes it nigh impossible.If i can't get close to AA quality then i don't want to release it to the market. Solo deving is likely impossible for my line of game and its observable by how poorly skilled other indie developers are in this field too. I might be the only one who wants to make my sort of game. But other indie devs were likely more realistic about their talentless abilities and instead opted for making shitty roguelites. No i will not provide any detailed answer other than this.
>>736616068he was moving when the picture was shot
>>736615960stay away from it
>>736616038He's like a year away from entertaining himself with Mario on NES all day hang in there. He doesn't need to know 3d games exist until like 7
>>736616068guy was moving when picture was taken.the camera shutter was set to a slow speed to get a clear image of the CRT displays, and to compensate for low light.shutter speed was likely at around 1/30, the monitors would strobe twice while the photo was taken, giving him the appearance of having two mouths.
Monitoring thread for negative 7R posts to set straight with objective statements.
>>7366168467R is a very comfy and fun game but it’s nothing compared to the pure atmosphere and soul of the original. Also it has a lot of random side fetch crap that kind of sullies the experience.
>>736616773nta but I was wondering why the crt images were so crisp
>>7366168467R only saving grace is a renaissance of tifa porn
>>736610723I'm bad at it.My skills don't meet my ambitions.
>>736610723I’m making my own game it’s just taking longer than I’d like. With a full time attorney job and gf who has to see me often enough balancing it all has been a challenge but we press on!
>>736617327>gfThere's your problem
>>736617403yeah but without her I’d just be trying to fuck a bunch of girls which is more of a time sync for me believe it or not. She’s a good leash for that aspect.
>>736617542no having a rotation is less of a time sink. I have like three fuck buddies and it's the easiest shit ever. Just ignore their calls and you call / text them when you have the time.
>>736610723If I had the skills, discipline, and ideas to make a game I wouldn't be in the position of reading a /v/ thread about why I'm not making a game.
>>736610723The same reason I don't create any sort of media. Why create when I can consoom? Consooming media is infinitely more entertaining and fulfilling that creating. The only people who disagree are jaded faggots who need to delude themselves.
>>736610723i dont know how to codei dont know how to drawi dont know how to animatei dont know how to modeli dont know how to composei dont know how to writeand i will not hire anyone
>>736618313>on /v/>three fuck buddiesOkay bro
>>736611002this
>>736618656Ive been on 4chan since 07. Im in my prime with more money than what I know to do with it. Im also fit and not a fatass. Getting girls is mega easy now. You learn however how shallow they are so I just fap half the time.
>>736615462Ugly Japanese common look no nose yellow skin
>>736610723>What's stopping you from making your own game?Because that "tomorrow" never came though...
>>736610723All the required technical skills, mind for logistics and people management and finances. On top of this I am missing the most important thing; I have no idea or game formed in my mind that I can build.All I know is music - and I also prefer playing games to the idea of making them
>>736616068Ugly yellow skin Japanese who has flat features. Most Japanese look like that
>>736618562Learn how to write and do maths, hire two people that will be "team creative (music, art etc)" and "team tech (programming, testing)" and get a "team modeller (animator/modeller)"; single guy for each job and you can make your own game and outsource the required workflow however you want from there. Literally how good things are made now before two people could make a kino game if it were just pixel graphics with arts and music, scripting and programming splits. (X-Com is an epic example.)
>>736618327yea too many requirements.I would rather just have lots of money and be the 'creative lead'.
>>736618919>with more money than what I know to do with itmake a game
>>736610723I have been working on my game for about a year now, it's very close to release. In a critical stage now where it's progress progress progress every tike inwork on it, only problem is, full time job and having a wife is miseryGod fucking forbid a man has a passion and wants tonwork on his project instead of sit there and have cyclical conversations about nothing and internet happenings for the 5 hours I get at home between my wagecuck shifts
>>736619175All of them look better without the cosmetics, prosthetics and camera filters. They are still unattractive to me though, as I'm not into asians
>>736619194this. I do that right now. Im manning a six man team. Having someone else work on art and sound makes things a lot easier. I also pay them compensation every month. I have a good enough job to use it on. Just means I sacrifice going on vacation
>>736618919Damn how old are you unc?
>>736619221I am actually lol
>>736619448getting close to 40. Im starting to see small white hairs in beard. Im gonna die!
>>736611847You sound like a retarded cuckold faggot
>>736619535he is
>>736619534eh maybe I’ll be divorced by then and get to live that life. I’m 27 turning 28 this month and feel like it’s too late for me sometimes.
>>736619583LOL no its not.
>>736619583its never too late. I sucked until I became 30 and suddenly I was getting good jobs based on my grinding. I was making 12/hr before. Now it's life changing money I have and have savings up the ass. I could go to London or something but here I am spending it on game devving. But it's amazing what you get when you hire people to do stuff for you. Increases productivity really well
>>736611847>artists have managed to convince gamers that the only thing that matters in games is the artwrong, its actually music. music is the most important. its a major critical component in a game's success. your game could literally steal/copy nes sprites but as long as the soundtrack is "fire", it'll do numbers.
i can't program for shit. i like making music, drawing, and animating. those are really fun. but programming tends to frustrate me most of the time, and when it doesn't it's pretty simple stuff or just me taking pieces of code from a video tutorial or forum. the latter of which i tend to not like to do, but if i truly don't have a clue on what to code then i'll use them. a part of me thinks that if i wanted to improve my coding skills, i should just simply scope down and do a smaller project. the reason for frustration is usually me having big expectations for myself and the game. if it's something i don't get any sort of pressure from, i found that solving coding problems can actually be quite fun.
>>736616720He's beaten the luigi mansion series and almost has finished that Mario odyssey game.
>>736610723I don't feel like doing anything with my life.
All I can do is programI crave to make games and I have some broad scope design ideas but I cannot even begin to do art or level design
>>736610723Lack of knowledge of programming and not being good at math.
>>736610723I don't know shit about programming, and I'm also lazy af. If I ever made a game I would love to make it either a beat em up or Hack N slash from the PS2 era
>>736619825>the reason for frustration is usually me having big expectations for myself and the game>dream of making a true dragon's dogma successor>have to just make multiple smaller projects of shitty flappy bird/vampire survivor-likes/vn shit games for years insteadyeah fuck game dev
>>736610723Nigga I have 16 gb ram
Zero talent>bro everyone ca-Not everyone.
>>736610723I don't want to be a corporate bootlicker like game developers.
>>736620168actually no you dont have to. you can start making dragon dogma right now. just make each system you can think of one at a time. You think I waited to make my own rpg or super mario? I literally jumped in to figure out how it all worked.
>>736620207The PS1 had 2 MB of ram. You don't want to know the ram of earlier consoles. You're fine.
I'm literally too stupid and lazy, I'm NEET for a reason
I scaled the project down so much now that it's gone from comic art style to just vector line art as the sound is more important and less visual clutter is better for a rhythm gamenow trying to record the traditional percussion (kompang) into the DAW
>>736619175The first two look worse with the make up
>>736620630Aw hell naw.
>>736610723from most of /v/ I would assume intelligence and motivation
>>736620817This
>>736610723I made a nice little survival "horror" game on RPG Maker. I enjoyed it very much. What stops me from making more? lack of time, mostly
My games:>1 RPG Maker 95 game>2 RPG Maker 2000 games>1 RPG Maker 2003 game>2 RPG Maker VX games>3 Ren'py dating sims>1 Ren'py visual novelI made 10 games in my life. The Ren'py games made me money because I offered porn in them. I estimate I made about $150,000 from them, but that was over the course of 10 fucking years, so it’s not like it’s a lot of money.
>>736623220No love for MV?
>>736623267RPG Maker MV is basically VX with a different scripting language, right? I started one of my hentai games in it, but I ported it to Ren'py early on, so I didn't spend much time with that program.But I want to make a kid-friendly game, so I'm looking forward to that new "3D-HD" RPG Maker that's coming out soon.
Im making my custom module for World of WarCraft right now :)
>>736623220that's actually pretty impressive, even with the caveat that it's over 10 years
I'm afraid it'll get called shit on /v/.
>>736624093If it sells who cares?
>>736610723ADHD, OCD, sleep apnea, chronic sleep deprivation, fibromialgia, irritable bowel syndrome, sensory processing disorder, sjogren's, echlers, scheurmann's disease, dry eyes, low blood sugar, discopathy, among other things.
>>736610723I feel extremely dumb and like I'll never be able to learn how to code. It's like I don't even want to try, I KNOW I'll be shit cause I'm dumb.
>>736610723Worming on other stuff right now.I thought about it. But using AI to code is still very expensive. I will have to wait until local stuff gets better maybe. Then it becomes affordable.Also: The worst part (art / asset generation) really sucked when I looked into it. The art-style was really terrible and modern (makes sense based on training data). I especially need this part to become cheap (ideally local).
>>736611002This and a mix of random bouts of depression
>>736610723I don't know how, probably doesn't pay the bills, I have other interests.That's more or less it.
>>736610723I have no original ideas of making a fun game, too busy playing other people's games that are fun to me.
>>736610723The same thing as everything else: depression. I have never done anything.
crippling agency issues
>>736610723I can only draw and write and I don't have a job yet
>>736619251How can we rectify this? I'm normally against foreign intervention but they're literally filtering themselves out of existence and their singularly unique technological innovation and prowess deserves to be preserved.
By summer I’ll be posting asking for programmers, I can do basically everything else and I’ve legitimately got a great idea for an addictive little game. A bit complex though
>>736611002this + old games
>>736628450wdym old games
>>736610723I start and then at some point self doubt creeps in and I think Im a hack and nobody would like it. Then a new idea pops into my head and it feels so tantalizing, so then I end up doing that and rinse and repeat.I need to hire some faggot to point a gun to my head and say that if I dont produce x by y time, he'll fucking kill me.
>>736612124>gachatranimal projecting
This thread easily proves that people are just lifelong consoomers with no ambition or drive.
>>73663016199% including you.
>>736630397Ive made five games in my lifetime. One of them let me buy a house.
I am but my partner won't fucking work on it. I do everything but like only 5% of code if that. If I want to finish my game I basically will need to do programming to and it's hard for me to start doing that with my brain.
>>736619794>want to make games>just be an artist or a richfag who can pay someone to draw everything>just be an autistic coder or be a richfag who can pay someone to code everything>just be an inspired musician who can come up with something no one has ever heard before I envy the men who got to build games with everything was simpler.
>>736630657What games I’m curious
>>736610723I don't have any ideas for a game that isn't just porn, but with my specific fetish.
>>736630929Shitty games that managed to sell on phone. I don't want to talk about it
>>736610723i could blame laziness or depression or whatever but the real reason is that i'm no longer a child and i'm just a bitter cynical old asshole now i don't have that same imagination and creativity that i used to have and i don't want to make a by the numbers game or some lifeless piece of slop
>>736631290I don't think I care about having the "ambition and drive" to make shitty phone games that I won't want to talk about later.
>>736610723Knowing where to start or what to do in terms of making the game. Kingdom Hearts with co-op (both couch and online) is the gameplay I have in mind, but that's asking for a bit from an indie.
>>736610723discipline and motivation
>>736631290Good for you man you should be proud. Buying a home off a game you made is an accomplishment no matter what.
>>736610723i like playing games too much to make them but i've been thinking about making a little game now that AI shit is a thing and i could offload all the boring dumb tasks to it, i think i know enough about coding to be able to modify the thing it spits out when the need arises too
>>736610723MoneyArtniggers demand a lot of it, and if you use AI gen shit instead you get a shitstorm
>>736631787>why dont you pay us thousands of dollars?! Stop using cheap AI shit! Art lives matter!
>>736610723i got an iq of like 78
>>736610723The constant pressure of a capitalist society
>>736610723I don't want to make a game. I want to play games.
>>736614248You sound extremely retarded.
>>736633672>I dont want to go look for an artist and pay himNo, you are the loser
>>736610723Look at this king ass setup. FIVE CRT monitors. Five.
>>736633761If I was a millionaire who could afford to hire artists, I wouldn't need to make a game.
>>736633839Square Enix was the goat for a reason
>>736633849If I was a millionaire, I would make ten games cause I love making games, loser.
>>736610723whether or not if it's moral to disclose using AI art or AI assistanceI used AI to help write some things and discuss plot points, as well as use AI for concept art of the characters and the world in my gameIf I come out the bat saying I used AI during the preparation phase, people are gonna walk away immediatelyIf I hide it or deny it, it's gonna explode in my face
>>736610723>Have an idea of what I want to make in blender >stare at the icon, dreading it... >do something to delay actually doing it >hey, I'm in this thread right now, and so are you >rinse and repeat
>>736610792Nobody says that it's 100% easy or fun. It took the Balatro dev years and multiple different versions of his own game before he finished it.
>>736636662https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKdkHcR50E
>>736610723My expectations outweigh my talent.
>>736611847yes because stealing code has been the norm in programming circles well before gen AI, meanwhile stealing art has never been okay in art circles so no duh artists don't want an AI doing it
Heterosexualality.
>>736610723>What's stopping you from making your own game?I'm currently working on my own little top down shooter project using C and Raylib. It's barely a prototype, but its coming along and hopefully will be complete by the end of the month.
>>736636662I had that problem, and my solution was just to do smaller faster works so that the program no longer felt exclusive to one project.Now I'm fucked by:>have an idea of what I want to make in blender>can't. It just doesn't look right.>start a new tutorial, and another, and another>progress, but it feels glacial>Jack-of-No-Trades; Master of None
>>736638295what about them makes you feel they just don't look right? is it the posing, lighting, shading etc?
>>736610723I don't have a team of talented asian men to make it for me.
>>736640683Then go find them
Work.
>>736640481The proportions are usually wrong, or stuff doesn't fit together quite right.My characters feel, "lumpy," where they should be smooth,and as for buildings, it's like there's no room for the stairs.My texture works leaves much to be desired.
>>736610723my only experience making games is creating maps in warcraft 3 map editor, plazma burst 2 and super mario flashbut you need so much shit to make games. i think you can use AI to make art, but vibe coding isnt there yet, so without any programming experience there is no way i can make one
>>736610723Money? Not nearly enough.Talent to be a one man studio? Negative.Mental illness that prevents me from (at the very least with any amount of ease) focusing on learning an engine and how to code? Check.So it goes. Maybe one day that will change, but it isn't today. Not yet.
>>736641543excuses
I'm too old (28) to learn anything and pick up habits and my life in general is shitty enough to add bugs coding drawing shit on top of that
>>736641015Honestly I suffer the same especially when it comes to building scale, where I think a room looks nice it's completely out of what and doesn't fit at all.. whether it be furniture, doors, windows etc. Have you thought about checking out some courses or architecture books to see if that could help?as with texture I always hear blender isn't the best for it and that people always recommend substance painter but juggling different programs sounds like a headache
>>736610723I've done some tiny projects just to see what making a game is like, but they're nothing worth releasing for sale. Even if I did sit down to make something I'd consider good enough to sell there's a 99% chance I'll make literal cents/hour worked. As a new indie dev these days the only chance you have of succeeding is by being a trend chasing faggot and praying you get some traction through TikTok or some Twitch streamer.
>>736643876thats why you dev for fun not for money
I started out as a very shitty hobbyist python programmer a couple years back. I decided that I wanted to make a 3D game from scratch only using C and Vulkan. It was a mountain of headache to both learn a new language and using Vulkan of all things at the same time, but I did it through by taking it one step at a time. After months of dealing with bullshit, I got the skeleton of an engine, and I'm working on figuring out collisions.I know for a fact that I'm low IQ, so if I can do it, most of you can. It's very rewarding and satisfying to create something. All it takes is the dedication to sticking through tutorial hell, then dealing with a fuckton of trial and error.Believe in yourselves, anons. WAGMI
>>736610723I have no talents above programming.Legit, I don't even have *ideas*
>>736643572I have courses on buildings and architecture, but I bounce between them, because I find them difficult, or one inspires me to try something in the other.I couldn't say. I don't have substance painter, I just mark stuff out in Blender using the vertex shader, and then refine that in Krita.
>>736610723Procrastination mainly. I need to get back to work.
>>736610723I was on the path to do this, with real education and some small programmer groups, back in 2015, but gave up when Gender quotas became official, and could see it affect video games on a AAA level. If it isn't the industry I fell in love with, I don't want to join it.
>>736647614be the change you want to be
even if you are somehow competent with all the required skills yourself the amount of work even simple games require is enough to filter most people
>>736610723I do like to think about the creative and mechanical aspects of the game (attributes, equipment, enemies, status effects, etc), but I can't program at all if not through extremely simple, drag-and-drop-blocks game engines like Stencyl, but that can hardly be called programming.
>>736616068He doesn't look AI generated, you just made that up in your head.A better question is why do you WISH he was AI generated? kys.
>>736610723I'm a total brainlet when it comes to programming.
>>736645510Just make an offbrand indie version of an old game and add some shitty modern gimmick like procedural generation, complicated movement, or parrying. Or make an extremely small 20-30 minute itch.io-slop game to start with.
>>736610723>What's stopping you from making your own game?My "good ideas" are too vague and I wouldn't actually know how to flesh them out in a way that makes a game fun.
>>736616068Are you really asking
I'm making a link to the past inspired game for genesis.
>>736610723Penis
>>736648247Being honest, I'm not a fan of those gimmicks, and I couldn't bring myself to make something that was intentionally slop. Guess I'll just try working on my skillset and brainstorming to see if I can come up with a concept for a half-hour game.
>>736610723I can't figure out any way to create art assets that isn't either impossible to learn or pure suffering.
Ultimately: Bad behaviors that have nothing to do with game development, like poor nutrition, being 'politically informed', and general hedonism killed all my motivation to make things. Stopping bad behaviors is x4 more effective then 'positive action' and it can be universally applied.This lead me to another conclusion that it's very bad to force yourself to do things. I was convinced for a year all I had to do was force myself to work on the game every day, which failed because I just saw it as a chore and did token changes so I could get back to bad behaviors. Getting 'motivated' in the moment doesn't happen, 'discipline' is long-term abstinence and your willingness to work flows from that.Later I discovered that when you're healthier, these sort of feelings are your unconscious and spiritual sense realizing somethings wrong about your approach that your rational mind can't express. For example, I would eventually discover that I can't stand working in a game engine for longer then a month which lead me to starting more "from scratch" on a framework and that particular feeling of 'dread' has gone away.Two warnings:There's a difference between NOT doing something you want to do(smoke crack, eat badly, porn, and so on) and NOT doing something you don't want to do.Second: There's a difference between not wanting to do something and initial reluctance due to fear(attachment to collective norms, 'rational' preconceptions, trauma, phobias, etc.) fear goes away if it's unfounded, spiritual warnings will persist and escalate.
>>736644126Vulkan's a lot of fun. There's all these cool ways unique to do things that you just don't have when you're using some bubble wrapped PBR and you have to learn the whole stack just to figure out where you need to plug your shit in.I did selection and box selection in my permanently engine dev RTS game by drawing entity ids to a separate buffer in the vertex stage. Makes it super accurate, simple, and fast. There's probably faster ways to do it on the CPU but all the data's already right there on the screen so no extra rubbish to calculate an approximate ray intersection and get it more or less close enough.
>>736610723the most fatal weakness of a gamedev: I can't properly design gameplay.
