I CLAPPED
> All women> In an expansion Lor'themar was supposed to shineHAHAHAHAATotal moid death.
i have cunt fatigue
For me it's The Silversun Compact
>>736611354>Azeroth herselfeven the planet is a cunt
>>736611527>mother earth when will this wokeslop end
>>736610965Where Azshara?>>736611080>All womenUmbris is right there. Sure, he's a retard that acts like a woman, but he has a dick, so a man on technicality if not practice.
Imagine playing in Horde.
>>736612567Right?
why does /v/ love wow so much?
>>736612962soullesssoul
>>736612962CucksNormal people
>>736613012It's fun
>>736612962whitesbrowns
I now see the reason why Sargeras thought there was no hope for this franchise and everything needed to be destroyed.>before his motives were ret-conned also
>>736613252Me on the right
>>736610965>>736611080>>736611354B-But...comicbook-fan Metzen...the supreme writing...our savior...
>>736614070Chris Metzen respects women and so should you, chud
>>736612434>Umbris is right there. Sure, he's a retard that acts like a woman, but he has a dick, so a man on technicality if not practice.What? One of those is a male? Which one? I honestly think they all look like women, to what extent modern video game females can look like women, at least
>that'll be $2620
>>736614070After Metzen had a daughter he turned into a loser male feminist. He has no edge or interest in writing anything that's not pandering for women and showing what a non threatening male he is.
>>736614863>After Metzen had a daughter he turned into a loser male feminist. He has no edge or interest in writing anything that's not pandering for women and showing what a non threatening male he is.Looking at Strive, this is exactly what I think happened with the guy who makes Guilty Gear. Either that, or he stopped caring and just started catering to westerners for the money.
How drenched do you reckon Sylvanas was here?
>>736611527>the motherland
Were never getting this Blizzard back, are we?
That disney pixar artstyle is so fucking disgustingly bad, I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea
>>736610965blood elves were cool for about 90% of their introductory expansion and then they pussied out.
>>736612962why even bother to do some lvl3 quest when the place is overcrowded to this extent
>>736611354what about Teldrassil?
>>736614863warcraft was always plenty gay, now it’s feminist and lame
>>736610965I don't understand why they bothered to bring Sylvanus back just for a 2 minute cutscene
>>736616114they really want to retcon SL
Bro this game is done, like, 5 addons ago. Let it go.
>>736614987Did he rape her?
>>736610965YAAAAAAS QUEEN SLAY
>>736616408tauren are book cucks that don’t get to do anything in the actual game
>>736614987why did they cuck Baine out of everything so much?He is pretty much the only character left that is warchief material maybe Lor'themar too but i dont know
>the horde is more destroyed with each expansionWhen will the humiliation end...
>>736610965The last time I played WoW there were Night Elves and Blood/High Elves, who are these other faggots?
>>736616635Vanilla was the only time horde wasn't gay. I did enjoy goblins though
>>736616797thrall turned into a whiny bitch so fast
>>736616754The Negro'dorai
>>736612962I remember this happen with The Division 1 on launch. The verbal abuse that went out to line cutting nigs was legendary.
>>736616797Horde should be orcs, tauren, trolls, goblin and OGRESEvery other race they added doesn't fit horde
>>736614523it is 2007 + 19 and hordetroons are still mad that bloodelves look more evolved than the subhuman apes living in mainland kalimdor
>>736614070Bro Metzen got paid for his Blizzcon appearance then went to fuck around with the Starcraft team. This has Christie Golden written all over it.
>>736615627>blood elves were coolbelfs were never cool, nigger
Make Blood Elves edgy again
>>736613012Its a laugh
>>736616635since left says orcs are blacks, never
>>736613012/v/ loves WoW like /tv/ loves Rings of Power.
>>736617037They were diet cool.
>>736617123Only Kael was actually edgy. Playable belf "males" always looked like femboy material
>>736615192We're not getting back that art period outside of patreon porn artists.What happened in the 2010s that westerners put on their retard hats?
>>736617559yeah you're right this is the physique all femboys strive for
>>736613252
>>736610965How do they just keep making it lamer, with every new lore instalment.
>>736617037They were basically magic-vampires. Vampires are cool. But like the other anon said, they immediately dropped that aesthetic in TBC itself, so they were cool for the intro cunematic but that was it.
>>736615627Post the "updated" version of that image :^)
>>736610965why is the only man there hunched over like he's undead?
>>736619128WE ARE WOMEN WE ARE FREEWE'RE MAKING OUR STAND AGAINST THE PATRIARCHY
>>736619128Stunning and brave
>>736619205>There are still fingers on his shoulder>His right arm doesn't exist
>>736610965All right, what the fuck did the story do now?I've been checked out for....a while but I do remember a tranny becoming god of the underworld, a dragon expansion where literally nothing happened, and ourguy in a meme wheelchair for reasons unknown.
>>736613252Me on the left, ready to suck horsecock
>>736619282we got a goblin raid. not sure what it had to do with the story though
>>736610965
>>736619282Oh god don't get me started on fem gobs...
>>736616612Bro'themar should just get his deserved rest with his purple elf wife already and be left alone by the slimy hands of the writing team.
>>736619460he looks like a stupid slav
>>736618853>tfw defended Mists of Pandaria>Called it slippery slope fallacy
>>736611354>to craft war BRAVO BILZZARD
>>736617123so what are the green balls?
>>736619205i thought they were meant to look asian
>>736612213nigga earth being a woman is as old as Latin
>>736619858Illidan's testicles
>>736616910thought she got fired with danuser
Who even plays retail WoW at this point? I understand there is still a small group of world first esportsfags, but who are the rest of the people playing this slop?
>>736620073damn he really got the wc3 illidan run down correctly
>>736610965jesus what kind of brutal sexual harrassement happened at blizzard in the past that they bend over so much now?did they mandatory rape all female employees twice a week or something?how many litres of breastmilk have been stolen?was piratesoftware part of the harassement?
>>736619781>slippery slope fallacyProven again and again to not be an actual fallacy.
>>736613012an entire generation wasted their lives playing exclusively blizzslop
>>736620151thicc does not mean fat wtf
>>736615627why was this image considered "problematic" at all?
>>736620143>thought she got fired with danuserShe did
>>736620196early blizzard is the best that gaming has ever been. The games are just so fucking good
>>736620143fired from what?
>>736614826gooner tax
>>736620310lmaoblizzard's rts games have always been for retards, warcraft 3 was so shit people would rather play fanmade custom games instead
>>736620408nice, peak retard post
>>736620316She got laid off in the Microsoft acquisition but still does freelance for blizz
>>736619781mop was okay as a deconstruction, there’s pozz in it is just stuff that happened in cata like a cunt taking over the dark irons, it’s pretty inoffensive otherwise
>>736620151The alphabet community
>>736614826>1/3why not something reasonable like 1/7 or 1/8.
>>736620687better for rubbing my dick against and between its thighs desu
>>736617934>What happened in the 2010s that westerners put on their retard hats?
>>736617934obama caused all this tranny shit
>>736618853Because their target audience keeps getting gayer with every year.
Blizz are too cowardly to give us Sylvanas vs Jaina.
>>736621323you mean whose clit gives out first in a scissoring session?
Sylvanas x Jaina you mean
>>736620296The damage was done since the thrall book.
>>736621323arcane futa penis
>>736619768>stashe is greek
>>736621925last names hardly mean anything with phenotypes and europe
>>736621925he’s a kike
>>736621925How terrible, he must help repay debts.
>>736612962>line up
>>736620310Outside of Diablo 1 and D2 until the synergies patch I didn't even like them at the time.
>>736612962>western civilization vs third world
The MCU has been an irreversible blight upon contemporary "creatives".
lel
>>736619205so feminine poses are just not allowed now? wtf?
>>736612962>Gay equality and fairness>Based survival of the fittest and best internet connection
>>736610965>Still no high elf customisation even after they returned to silver moon with this cutscene.
>>736625851It's nice of xir to inform normal people which server to avoid
You forgot to include a link to the finale:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkVUq8qEBE
>>736625851lord
>>736619781MoP was a masterpiece compared to the current stuff. we'll never get anything as cool as the Thunder King or Garrosh again. the pandas were goofy but ultimately ended up playing a small role and the rest of the expac was actually pretty solid. the decline was definitely incremental arguably starting as early as Wrath, but it really shifted into overdrive part way through Shadowlands. after the sexual assault allegations and Afrasiabi lawsuit they swerved hard to try and change their image.
>>736627203they’re an actual minor race and not another ancient powerful elf recolor nobody knew about for some reason, also not a single faggot just big booty pandas with hot voices
>>736627792They would definitely have been an allied race if the concept existed back then
>>736613143>poison procs giving casting animationsthose were the days, even tho that clip is from a private server
>>736613143>that power walkBro got aurafarmed on, lmao
>>736614826that hat looks retarded as fuck, it's way too big
>>736627203There was a few primary moments of decline>Vanilla (post-launch, most of the people who made the game left)>Wrath (Activision)>WoD (They didn't even finish it)>BfA/Shadowlands (what the fuck happened here)I think the game was pretty much unplayable after WoD but at least the story was still focused on shit core to Warcraft in Legion.
>>736628238legion really is terrible and an entirely different game, i suspect it will die in a month if they actually do legion classic
>>736610965Kill all high elves for being race traitors
>>736628471I only give Legion leeway because it's at least focused on shit people care about and had a breadth of relevant content in it, and it's as close to a suitable "finale" the game could've had (just needed to make sargeras the final boss)
>>736614863Made me laugh when I saw his daughter, who complained about bikinis, is a hamplanet.
>>736628660Post her
>>736628775
>>736626910the thought that someone out there follows this shit and takes it seriously hurts me
>>736628854Don't like his writing but happy for him, seems like a nice family
>>736626443>datamines reveal character customization options labelled "high_elf_hair1" and other such things>forums explode>helfags utterly feral>belfags on suicide watch>20 years of conflict about to end>patch day>blood elves name changed to silversun elves, some new customization options added>still on the horde side
>>736628854Still wouldAlso great looking family
>>736628873>I regret putting the word WAR in Warcraft.Why does this happen to men who have daughters?
>>736628471mop classic is already on life support (I play it), the devs abandoned it and throne of thunder is a buggy mess, it's bleeding players and siege of org is still months away. I used to think classic would go on until legion at least but now I'm not so sure it will last that long, it's already struggling and barely anybody wants wod classic. wouldn't be surprised if they pull the plug after mop the way things are going.
>>736629206to be fair, i think that quote was taken out of context or something along those lines
>>736628854Uhh she's not fat at all but her brothers legs make her look like she's packing some serious junk
>>736610965>>736611354>Quel'thalas expansion.>Blood Elves end up playing a backseat in the expansion to the two race traitor groups kicked out of Quel'thalas.>Only time the Blood Elves are relevant is whenever the writers want to remove everything that made Blood Elves interesting and turn them into generic DND Elves like the High Elves Has there ever been a playerbase more despised by their own games devs, than the Horde?
>>736629884Horde babs still cry no matter what, good to seeSome things never change
>>736628854>White heterosexual family.I was expecting some blue hair polycule shit.I might dislike Metzen now but happy for him, his family seems nice.
>>736616349I liked the playable dragon people and them reclaiming their ancestral home from the Muslims. That was cool.
>>736610965>>736611354I like how they basically confirmed that High Elves are different from Blood Elves and then did a line up of all the playable elf races with High Elves being the only non-playable one. Essentially confirming that High Elves will become a playable race.ngl but that's kinda funny
>>736630228haha yeah anon that is kinda funny hahaWhen did you transition?
>>736619264he's fisting her elbow deep
>>736610965Why are Blood Elves different from High Elves again? What happened with that?I thought the High Elves went extinct after Arthas' genocide?
>>736610965Don't most elves fucking hate each other in WoW?
>>736630298>When did you transition?never did, fuck all trannies
>>736627792>big booty pandas with hot voicesI never went back from fempanders
>>736628854Honestly despite everything Metzen does seem like a good dude
>>736615719That's nature shit retard. What does a fucking tree have to do with wizard magic?
>>736630459nah he’s a talentless nepotism kike
>>736630174>tranny dragons beating muslimsDamn... I'd have rooted for the muslims this time around.
>>736629206did he have a son? because his wife + his daughter is double female influence on his life almost tripled because his daughter is 110% going to act like a retard about idpol shit, it only makes sense he'd cuck out
>>736610965So...the night elves have gone from despising arcane magic to actively aiding in trying to restore a font of arcane (and Admittedly light) magic?
>>736630647the shattering 2.0 baby! lets go! wooooo!!!
>>736630459>thought to be the face of the horde>is an alliance fanboy and only plays allianceThe fuck?
>>736620151
>>736611354>>736619812We regret calling it WarCraft.So now we Craft War (only against evil™)>>736615192occupy wallstreet so they had to introduce culture war bullshit and the people gobbled it up like swines
>>736628854looks like your typical ugly american family. good for him
I think is time for horde to split and genocide all the elves.
>>736617934>>736631315second part was meant for you
>>736631381Ugly how
>>736630228I highly doubt they're making High Elves playable when you can already make them through Void Elves. Their only difference would be name and racials.
>>736612962>bad players that cant compete >based fastest player wins
>>736617934>What happened in the 2010s that westerners put on their retard hats?Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn happened.
I've been playing again since the 2020 election and feel like its not worth it. I am only playing free trial so my character can only get to level 20, but since I'm allowed to go to shadowlands and dragon isles for free I figured what the hell. Holy shit, its not worth it. I'm stuck on progression because I won't do a gay centaur wedding.
>>736630459The worst I can say about him is that his writing sucks, so...yeah probably.
if anyone still plays retail can they explain to me what the hell is going on with trolls and ZA and what the plotline is?I stopped playing retail WoW years ago, but in a twist of fate, my friends got back into it, claim its better than ever despite hardly playing wow for 20 years, and that the new storylines are good. I can't fucking imagine anything coming out of retail wow being "good" after all the shit I have seen and experienced.
>>736632157you obviously don't like it so why bother you stupid fag
>>736610965>characters in modern WoW are designed to appeal to libtards where most important characters are stronk lesbian girlbosses and otherwise whatever is the hip new 'marginalized' sort>characters in modern FFXIV are mostly designed to appeal to women, where conventionally attractive female characters are swiftly written out in favor of otomebait males and androgynous boygirls (and one obnoxious furry)It's all so tiresome
>>736632281ZA is threatened by Twilight's Blade (revived Twilight's Edge basically). Zul'jin's grandchildren are fighting an uphill battle to defend themselves. Initially you go in to just investigate what's going, but ultimately you and Liadrin elect to help out. Zul'jan is shoved in the cuck shed and you accompany Zul'jarra who goes on a merry adventure to regain the loas' favour since they are still upset with Zul'jin apparently trying to take their power by force. She becomes "the chosen one," all the loa and troll tribes rally behind her and kneel in respect, and you boot TB out of ZA. The quest concludes with you finding Zul'jan sulking in the cuck shed (who's probably going to end up as a raid boss in some future patch).It's pretty mid. Some side quests are decent, but overall all the trolls are humanised, aka they're just a little battle autistic but otherwise they're basically just written like humans. Zul'jarra constantly says how much she learned in the trials but it's never shown and you do all her shit for her. If you're familiar with Wuk Lamat it's pretty similar. Oh and throughout it all you and Liadrin are her "chosen guides" and they even have a cheeky "isn't that ironic haha!l" line if you're both belves.
>>736633120>and they even have a cheeky "isn't that ironic haha!l" line if you're both belves.>There are elf mages alive right now in the horde that participated in the flame nuke that burned so hot it gave trolls a weakness to fire
>>736610965I'm so tired of this care bear hakuna matata pussy shit which is why I quit WoW years ago
>>736610965The more they add elves to the game the more it turns to shit.
>>736632281The gameplay is the best it's ever been, other than changes that fucked up addons which were circumvented with replacements put behind paywalls only serving to fuck the average player base. The writing/story is horrid and your friends are retarded fags if they think otherwise.As for the trolls, Xalatath through the twilight hammer (now blade) are trying to take over the Sunwell and the twilight blade for some reason attack Zulaman. The Amani at this time are run by Zul'jins daughter, of course, who gets your help to essentially save their civilization and somehow in the process becomes the Loa's chosen one despite you having done all the work they attribute to her. Her dad is still evil though and she will betray him for you next content patch, as you would expect.
>>736632283because I met my first girlfriend over wow.
>>736633414>neuter every single rotation in the game so that mouthbreathers using one button rotation could play the game>"bro its the best its ever been"
>>736633489
https://x.com/that_kind_oforc/status/2041706295317913695 they actually forgot bloodelves are mana addicts
>>736633527I play mage so nothing changed for me. I don't care about your class. Encounter design is pretty good, way better on average than it's ever been and there is content for all level of players. One button isn't viable outside fodder/farm content so I don't care.
>>736633784>I play mage so nothing changed for me.Arcane and especially Fire were decimated.
>>736633709
>>736633894>try out new arcane>you don't even use missiles (the capstone of the fucking spec) anymore you spam orbs>despite this you're still forced to waste points on two passive slots that affect missileswhat the fuck
>>736633709>sunwell is gone>were just gonna have to get used to itDamn if only kael said that at the beginning of TFT
>>736610965This just isn't Warcraft.If they wanted some girl power hand holding team up Marvel shit they should make a new IP but they know they don't have the talent for it.Back to Turtle WoW for my WoW fix.
>>736634119That's moid leadership for you.
>>736616797The Horde was massively gay back then too, you were just too young to see it. It's always been the queer faction
>>736610965So is no one going to bring up the fact she was attempting to conquer Stromgarde for Queen bitch after previously making an oath to the Silver Hand? Anyone?
>>736634365All apart of the jailers plain or something
>>736614863Why do men turn into such cucks once they birth a daughter? I notice that a lot in rl as well. As soon as they get children they become extremly boring and wont shut up about it. If its a daughter they become absolute homo feminists.Their braincells also seem to just die off in an instant.
>>736634119won't these people wither and die without a source of mana to suck off? what are they gonna do now?
>>736619205>feminime pose completly removed>awkwardly sloppy photoshop a toddler could do betterAre women not allowed to hug their men anymore and let them finish off their prey?
>>736634687If a man does this, they are trying to impress their daughters so they can fuck them. You see it fairly often with Tendies, though that might be stretching the definition of man a bit.
>>736615192>nelfs were suppose to be savage jungle warriors that even fucking scared orcs>instantly get pussyfied
>>736634695won't these people wither and die without a source of mana to suck off?You think blizz remembers that?
>>736625851>>736627165
>>736610965how many races are there, elves are like eeveelutions at this point
>>736634687Probably realizing some guy out there wants to fuck your daughter's brains out, just like you did with your wife and that breaks you.
Remember when you didn't hate wow?
>>736628854>3 daughtersthats rough man
>>736634687Its a California thing. Notice how all of these trends, lifestyle choices and lingo have one specific point of origin. A nation known for borderline communist, far-left, anti-human views the most polluted, populated, homeless ridden dung heap in all of North America.
>>736634119the Undeads destroying the sunwell and dooming the elves to summon their lord was one of warcrafts biggest plot points. But yeah I guess we will just "get used to it"
>why do guys suddenly care about gendr equality when they have a daughterI dunno its a mystery no one can fathom why this possibly would ever happen oh well at least /v/irgins dont have to worry about every having offspring
>>736634986Which is extra funny because the haranir basically replaced all of what nelves used to be.
>>736635346I always hated WoW.Warcraft never recovered from becoming a MMO that serves as Welfare Daycare for lonely people
>>736615627Purifying the Sunwell was a mistake, it should have stayed fucked. Blood Elves started as edgy mana addicts that went to any length for self preservation and basically just became mean elves with no identity.
>>736630712Man I miss when Thrall was green Moses instead of green Jesus.
>>736635830what is this fucking artstyle?
There must always be a Lich King, get used to it.
>>736630712Everything is this dumb fucking nigger fault.Also>lets live in this barren desert so we can attone for our sins>but not me lmao im fucking off to Nagrand kek
>>736636269Honestly the idea of uncorrupted orcs left on the floating remains of Draenor was stupid.
>>736630484because it's excluded from the memorial line, it's not like Theramore was a kingdom of magic as well
>>736636165everything about how they handled the Lich King was so bad. turned into a Saturday morning cartoon villain, no meaningful interactions with Jaina or Sylvanas, erased Ner'zhul's presence, reduced Anub'arak to a joke boss, and then this shit. at least the game still had some cool factor back then and wasn't completely inundated with woke shit, but they lost the plot a lot earlier than people realize. Wrath was also the beginning of all the cosmic mumbo jumbo with Ulduar that plagues the lore now.
>>736636040They look out of place because they're originally from Kingdoms of Amalur. Basically, Steve Danuser cannibalised Amalur because he's a talentless hack, so he copied over Fae courts, hironar and other lore shit during his stay at Blizz.They're a sassy donut steel race older than elves or trolls and instead of protecting any world tree they protect the roots of ALL world trees (concept stolen from Amalur too btw). They worship Azeroth's worldsoul directly and are so special that they get to commune with it and their home turf is covered in Azeroth's fart dust that gives them even more special powers.
>>736636165This is still one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. Fuck this stupid timeline, man.
>>736635086what's fucked up is I'm not even a warcraft lore nerd, I just remember tidbits from stories I liked and if a guy like me who hasn't paid attention to wow lore in years can remember, how the hell can people whose entire job is to be a warcraft lore nerd and write more of it not remember they have to be retarded, not caring, or completely new and refused to read the lore primer
>>736634687Their insecure daughters are threatened by 2d women, which absolutely will be chosen over them. Fathers are protective of their daughters, and fight against the thing that threatens them.
You know rogues have it pretty tough...
>>736636710it's because none of the original writers even work there anymore. they're all DEI hires from the last few years who are interested in telling THEIR stories, no the stories of Warcraft. I don't even think it's necessarily that they don't remember, they just don't even care enough to do the research. like for example what anon above said about Danuser inserting Amalur lore into the game. all of the Haronir plot points could have been given to Night Elves or Dark Trolls instead, but Danuser wants to tell HIS story, not the story that the previous writers of Warcraft were telling.
I miss Garrosh.
>>736636985He doesn't miss you
>>736610965One tree wasn't enough
>>736610965Bahahaha they brought back Sylvanas and turned her babyface for good?
>>736636040furry
>>736612962>niggers>also niggers
>>736624408yep even irl you'll see plenty of women doing masculine shit out of spite
>>736628238People stopped playing vanilla for almost A YEAR, all to play Oblivion with mods because naxxramas was incredibly retardly hard and exhaustive, and no one wanted to spend 24 hours per day of grinding to do the early TBC progression shit people also hated it because at this time blizzard needed to justify the retarded grind to keep morons subscribed.>>736631990The game has less than 1 million and plummeting hard outside the paypigs, the entire prideshit and ai moderated shit pretty much drove the last original fags out even out of classic, where people are already complaining that is garbage and the lack of communication itself is worse i say this because my guildmates are doing Classic TBC right now while Ascension BBC is doing bullshit And fucking Fallout 76 seasonal system is giving more profits than fucking wow is giving over the last 2 years.Also all of WoW dev team was reduced to a fucking skeleton team, and the retarded interns are spamming /v/ 24/7 with garbage ad shilling campaigns with OW women whom they changed nothing at all, shitty wow porn edits because WoW porn in general is terrible, and they are also responsible for the futashit all over the place, and the fact that Microsoft is pulling the trigger on battlenet and rushing to release everything unto xbox and steam, because they arent going to waste money on 3 storefronts at the same time when PC Gaming Store and Steam are better, even the diablo 2 release on steam is superior than the old bnet release for fucks sake, pirated or not is better than the shitshow that was for years.
so is midnight worth playing or nah
>>736631990it was one of many monumental mistakes for them to do allied races that are literally just a color palette swap. they should have just made blood elves a neutral race and added in all the void and high elf customizations in the one singular race option. same shit with the dark iron dwarves and the mag'har orcs. it's crazy how badly they screwed up sub-races when all it needed to be was adding additional texture customizations to races that already have all the important work done.
>>736628238I was there during Wrath and despite what you may believe it TANKED the raiding scene population. That shit was not fun, not only was raiding unenjoyable but they began mass producing daily quests and forcing that into every aspect of the games design, instead of it being an option or limited to one piece of side content it was now your main thing to do every, single, day. My server had 5 top end raid guilds and roughly 6-7 mid tier ones when Wrath came out, all of them were dead by the time ICC was fully released, lmao releasing it in wings what the fuck man.
Warcraft is dead.WoW is NEET Daycare.Give me things like Official Uther Party or Warcraft Dynasty Warriors or some shit.
>>736639470Eh, I think the bigger mistake was trying to do both. I like (and imo it makes sense) that the subraces have different racials and classes. Zandalari/Kul'tirans should have been the blueprint, but velves while visually neat were a huge mistake. They should have just added high elves as an AR.
>>736612962>goycattle vs nogsGrim.
I think they should get rid of horde and alliance entirely. Instead they add in the bloods and the crips so that people can still pvp.
>>736633357>there are elves alive that haven shaken hands with orcs that raped and pillaged their way across Quel'thalas during the second war.
>>736634045no fucking way they ditched missiles. that was THE arcane spell before tbc implemented arcane blast
>Sylvanas shows up for 10 seconds to save the daylollmao even
>>736640748>Sylvanas brought out of "emergency character" locker to deal with the copy/paste Sylvanas replacement>barely two expansions later
>>736634695The dawnwell still gives off energy, it's just not as powerful as the sunwell was. There's a Forsaken priest (Alonsus) who couldn't go near the sunwell when it was pissing full blast but after it turned into the dawnwell he's chilling right next to it
So what, is there now an all elf faction/city?
>To craft war
>>736635346I don't hate WoW to this day. I hate Blizzard. There is a difference.
>>736631990They had no problem adding 3 dwarf races that nobody plays.
>>736641351>nowHorde may be mud huts, but it's all elf property.
Who gives a shit.Classic+ will save WOW.>B-but SOD failed!No one but hardcore people knew what SOD was. All of my old friends who played back in 2004 - WOTLK constantly ask me about what it was like and ask me if they're ever releasing a new server of it or if they're building off of it for Classic+. It's gonna be yuge.
>>736614987>what a badass moment for Baine>except he was an alliance sympathizer who killed more Horde than Alliance>and instead of licking boots he broke off his own horn and gave it to anduinBaine is a steer and a queer, can't believe anyone played Horde after BfA.
>>736642012His father should not have died in the first place, what the fuck were they thinking? Fuck you Chris metzin
>>736620006Kek imagine being so low-IQ you feel the need to validate yourself in an MMOsloppa thread on an East Indonesian basket weaving forum by pointing out something 'wrong' with a joke and not even realizing that *was* the fucking joke.
>>736642124They probably wanted to force some drama into the game by killing someone people knew, but they picked Cairne, who was one of the least remembered characters from WC3, and mostly forgotten about by the time of his death....they also did it in a retarded way.
>>736642124>>736642124Fucking exactly.No idea why anyone got hyped when he announced he was coming back when he was the one who fucked up the lore in the first place.
>>736610965looks zesty
>>736642175the worst part is Magatha Grimtotem faced zero consequences for being the one that poisoned Gorehowl killing Cairne. at the very least we should have got to kill her for some retribution, but nope.
>>736610965The setting and story of this game has been bastardized beyond recognition.
>>736635346>12/f/sk>No.
>>736642356Didn't she come back several expansions later to do some evil shit, then come back and do something good and be hailed as a hero?I remember her plotline was really fucking dumb because she got away with it all in the dumbest way, but can't remember what happened.
>>736620687Why not 1 to 1
>>736636559A writer isn't allowed to indulge a bit? Is there anything actually wrong with their backstory?
>>736628059It's a religious leader kind of hat dumbass. It's not supposed to look practical.
what expansion is it that absolutely destroys whatever narrative WoW was telling and there is no coming back from how bad they fucked it? can you still play the previous expansions and get the full story from them or have they changed the game too much and they've deleted old quest lines?
>>736610965This cutscene made me transition. Women are so powerful.
>>736614863>Not emphasizing on tight clothes/bulges and removing the pauldrons/gauntletsThis is fucking gay by gaymer standards
>>736636165>Can control all undead in the world to walk into a volcano and destroy themselvesWhy does a Lich King NEED to exist forever?
>>736642396>greatly help in furthering the rule of orc-hitler>kill off one of the most beloved horde leaders>get off scot free because she's a black womanoh I am laffin
>>736632774With devs like this what did you expect?
>>736642857Shit like this is why I'm glad my nigga Rexxar has been mostly irrelevant to WoW lore. They'd just ruin him like everyone else
>>736642520May not answer your question but Legion is basically the last of old world WoW. Cataclysm and MoP are whacky fanfiction and Warlords of Draenor was pointless filler.
>>736642520most will probably say BFA is when it went completely off the rails and then Shadowlands fucked the corpse, but the reality is WoW never had good storytelling. already in vanilla WoW they were retconning things from Warcraft 3 and making stupid concessions to accommodate MMO systems like the two factions. the biggest strength of vanilla is that it barely had an overarching story, it was focused on smaller scale worldbuilding which it did well. as soon as they tried writing more structured narratives starting in TBC, you could tell they were completely out of their depth. they had no idea how to write a story within the confines of an MMO, and just kept making increasingly bad decisions. it's really not the MMO to play if you're looking for story. Warcraft 3 is the only good storytelling in the franchise, and WoW has been coasting off that since the beginning. the only reason people even look at pre-BFA storylines with any fondness at all is because they were still somewhat attached to Warcraft 3. BFA was the first time it felt really disconnected from that and made it obvious that the writing was trash.
>>736635346God Ironforge is so fucking based. 22 years later and there's still nothing better than it.
>>736610965FFS, it’s not just that it’s old, I hate WoW’s art style so much. What kind of lameass plays a game that looks like this?
>>736610965God Liadrin looks retarded, that armour is horrendous.
>>736642520pretty much every expac after vanilla has some level of narrative rape but bfa and shadowlands is where things go off the rails. there's a reason loreposting virtually vanishes after them and we're left with threads laughing at the puppeted corpse blizzard keeps using
After 2021, Blizzard will never allow even a hint of masculinity within the company. It doesn't matter what culture exists outside of it. Their personal #MeToo'ing means every game NEEDS to cater to weird tumblr freaks to atone for their sins.
>>736620151If you disregard the story and "lore" entirely, the actual moment-to-moment gameplay in WoW is still the best in any MMO out today and it's not even close.So, if you enjoy raiding or M+ you basically have no alternative that isn't strictly worse in one way or another.
>>736631990You can't make them Paladins, which is what people really want
>>736642396She was one of the followers for Shamans in Legion. To be fair, everyone's reaction to that ingame was basically "what in the FUCK is she doing here"
>>736644129No normal person uses the phrase "moment-to-moment".
>>736610965Why is everyone covered in spikes?
>>736644216Just make Void Paladins, then. EZ
>>736644302Feel free to replace it with whatever equivalent you think "normal" people use if that help you understand the point.
>>736620151Gays and browns as far as I can tell.
>>736642548>gauntlets I thought hands were a fujo thing
>>736644512Did they add that later? I checked out of WoW right after Shadowlands started
>>736644602No they didn't.If you want to make a "Dark Knight", just make a DK.
>>736644129I enjoy raiding but I haven't played retail in so long that whenever I log in I just get overwhelmed by how much has changed and give up. I've been playing classic and the raiding around MoP-Legion was in a really good place imo but it's dying cause Blizz abandoned it and idk if it will even get to Legion at this point. I'm not going back to vanilla-tbc cause the raiding there is a fucking snoozefest. tempted to give retail another shot but I'll probably just end up quitting MMOs if classic dies
>>736644541I don't think you understand what's being said.
>>736644625Ohhh, sorry I'm retarded that's a DK (duh)Although now that I think about it, don't Void DK's make no fucking sense or did they Retcon how DK's are made now.
>>736612962Beautiful
>>736644751>Void DKs make no fucking senseThe void is completely incompatible with Death. Death predates entirely upon the void easily. So far only Nathrezim are Death creatures that can channel Void.>did they retcon how DKs are made nowEvery race except Dracthyr and Haranir can become DKs.Canonically every race added before Pandaren are paladins of the Argent Dawn who impressed Arthas and, because he loves irony, are risen specifically to serve as his champions.Every race starting with Pandaren are risen by Lich King Bolvar to... I don't remember. It was after Legion so idk why.And since there is no more Lich King, no new DKs will be made by one. Not that he was the only one who could make them, but there is no new method that the player sees.
>>736644625Demon Hunters just got a void themed third spec.Not that anyone gives a fuck about DHs though.
>>736619205This shit looks like AI lmao
>>736615631>why even bother to do some lvl3 quest when the place is overcrowded to this extentit was the opening day or something if i remember rightpeople were just making a cute event of it, nothing serious
>>736616114>I don't understand why they bothered to bring Sylvanus backanduin's wife
Bring them back. Walmart brand Sith space ghosts and their menagerie are lame.
>>736619205>arm is straight up gone>woman is strong and indepentent now>fingers hidden behind red haze>men and women aren't allowed to show affection anymore because trannies lose their shit over hetrosexuality
>>736648951This, how the fuck are we supposed to be excited about fighting shadow fartblobs over these guys
>Xalatath died on the way back to her home planet
Ragnarok online isn't just a better MMO it'd also got better plot Even with the huehue spamming brs.This shit is sucks.
>>736610965Man these models look so fucking bad.
>>736648951I don't understand how the new void is supposed to be related to the old gods at all. they have completely different aesthetics and methods of operation but somehow we're supposed to believe they're the same faction. I don't think anybody would be mad if they pulled the "these last few expansions were just a bad dream induced by N'zoth" card and just reset it.
>>736629442She's 100% obese and trashy looking
>>736628854In what fucking planet is she a "hamplanet"?A little chubby sure but seriously nigga?
>>736649691Since they showed us that more creatures than just voidwalkers exist in the Void, I'd buy it if there were more Old God sized monsters living in the Void Storm but knowing Blizzard they probably forgot they even exist by now.
>>736613143This doesn't look fun
>>736617934it'll swing back just like it always does. Extreme moderation is always followed by periods of extreme debauchery.
>>736616864>why was this change made?>because some players want it. That's it.Do you think he'll have a problem when they let you rape other players?
>>736644327chris metzen's subconscious is crying out in the only way it can
>>736649691IIRC old gods were supposed to be manifestations of void gods breaking into our reality, or something similar, because the void gods or whatever couldn't physically or fully manifest.
>>736634687I have a daughter and I didn't become a fag, neither are my friends. Maybe something's wrong in the water where you live.
>>736638470This
i wanna replay TFT's the founding of durotar again
>>736611354But why is your elf black?
>>736634687>Why do men turn into such cucks once they birth a daughter?They suddenly play defensive because now the home team wants to fuck them. They suddenly now view the world through the eyes of their daughter and the imagination does awful things to them and so it becomes more comforting to envision a world where men are too timid and asexual to ever want to fuck their daughter, and this influences how they carry themselves in life.
>>736620247That middle one is great
>>736635346Easy to remember when the hate never started
>>736634687A father's brain is flooded with oxytocin at the sight of his child when they're born, facilitating the shift to fatherhood. So you have men adapting to the needs of their children, normally this isn't a problem because in ages past children would invariably mimic their parents, but you live in an age where kids are de facto raised communally. This creates a psychological loophole where if a third party can influence the behavior of a child because they have more access (schooling) they can indirectly influence the behavior of the parents through their empathic bond with their children.
>>736610965What happened?
>>736654398Big elf orgy in the sunwell
>>736610965so did the feet slut(whose porn was clearly paid by blizzard to get some viral marketing) do anything aside from looking unnecessary smug and talking in riddle?
>>736620006Holy fuck you're an actual idiot
>>736654732>NOOOOO HOW DARE SOMETHING BE FEMALE!!! THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DECADE OF THE MALE
>>736610965wasnt the dawnwell shit leaked like a year ago here in /v/ ?
>>736610965WotLK era Sylvannas showed more skin than all of these elves combinedwhat the FUCK happened to WoW?
>>736616114>I don't understand why they bothered to bring Sylvanus back just for a 2 minute cutsceneits the windrunners, blood elfs expansion.might as well ask where the fuck are all the dragonflights you fags were working on bringing back to power to protect this world.
>>736618940youre pipe dreaming about the undead night elfs of the scourge.
>>736619610holy shit that was so based and HOT
>>736635346I do not hate wow.I hate blizzard and wow players.
>>736620006>old as latinYou fucking retard lmao.
What actually caused people to quit WoW?
>>736655664Storylines they were interested in wrapped up, there was fundamentally nothing new to do, friends drifted apart, they moved on with their lives, take your pick.
>>736655664loads of stuff, depends on the person. it was a slow, gradual dropoff after plateauing in Wrath, no real single point where it cratered. WoD probably saw the fastest dropoff, that's because it had no content. but other than that, it's hard to quantify. the game changed a lot over time, from the gameplay, the type of content, to the story, and the art direction. communities came and went. some people just played too much and got burnt out. for most, probably some combination of all of the above.
>>736655664It got quite fucking gay and faggy.Theres no stakes, you know there is always a deus ex machina coming, that there are no 'actually evil' characters 'muh redemption arcs'it simply got tiresome as fuck and retarded as hell
>>736615192died a long long time ago
>>736610965>Liadrin with negative chest
>>736619610>the artist who drew those disappeared from the newWhy do we suffer?
>>736648951you can really tell bottom left is new and out of place.
>>736610965>void is very bad>several expansions where this is shown>let the void race drop a void macguffin into the elf stew anyway
>>736636624I just googled it. There is no fucking way. No way.
its funny because every single last blizzard game has this thing where they over enunciate in cutscenes, probably gotta speak slowly for their fanbase like dora the explorer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilHROkpf5PY
>>736610965>Woman>Troon>Woman>Woman>WomanModern WoW.
>>736657480well acksyually bottom left and top right depictions are from the same time. and technically Y'shaarj's (bottom left) design is based on the Sha, which were around years before N'zoth (top right), although that particular depiction of Y'shaarj I don't think came about until N'zoth had been introduced. but I don't think N'zoth's design had been finalized by that point so they just gave him a generic tentacle monster design which is why he looks less over the top, his appearance in BFA is more cartooney. the other two (top right, bottom left) are older though yeah.
>>736634687It's not the daughter, it's the wife. Men, like most humans, choose the path of least resistance. If you marry a woman you do it with the intention that it's going to be for life so at least 60 years. It's easier to just say yes than to be in screaming arguments every week where she weaponizes her gender and tears against you to make you out to be the bad guy for not entertaining her hysteria.I see it in my own life, guys I've known for a long time get a girlfriend and the henpecking begins. Then they get married or have a kid and cohabitate and suddenly she wears the pants and they lose 80% of their testosterone. Men who don't are labeled abusive or deadbeats. Smart men don't get married at all and just live however they want and/or go around knocking up women who then take care of their kids.>b-but that's bad for the GDP and society!lmao
>>736612962Americuck "Whites"The REAL whites
>>736612962>make Tauren shaman>have to fetch a pail of water>see some fellow cows by the well and get worried>oh nevermind, they're just standing around afk>plenty of jugs spawned>grab one off the back of the well>they get pissed and start telling me to wait in line>so few of them I didn't even realize they were trying to form a line>enough jugs available to send all but one of them back right now>they start hitting me with /tells once I'm out of /say rangeThe fuck is wrong with these meme slaves?They were outright making it take longer just to be able to form a line.
>>736616864I'm fairly certain that a porn artist already used "nig'dorei" in one of his fetish posts
>>73665566420 year old game thats barely changed. paying an expansion fee+15$+hours of your life every week to raid log on a boss gets boring. at a certain point you realize you arent playing for fun, but for the "prestige" of beating an epic raid boss. eventually you stop caring about the "prestige" so you quit
>>736636624>>736636624It's the same exact shit they did with the sunwell, they took something cool and neutered it to fuck so they would never have to deal with it again in a future expansion.
>>736620408>gives gamers the tools to make their own games>spawn an entire billion dollar genreIf you consider all the spin-offs (all tower-defense games, all MOBAs, WoW) Warcraft 3 might be the best or at least the most influential PC game of all time.
>>736616864>and why it wouldn't matter even if it didI'd say you might as well just say that the article is going to be biased as fuck, but that can safely be assumed about every piece like this regardless.
>>736616635Horde should have ceased existing after MoP, yet here we are.
>>736658526counter-strike
>>736610965So, I guess all the elves come together and make up, and everyone is now accepted in Silvermoon? Is that the big take-away? All the elf races united again?
>>736658743Yes, you are 100% correct.
>>736658771I thought Sylvanas was on her 1,000 year atonement mission or some shit? Why is she there?
>>736658790Sylvanas isn't in the cutscene. But she did show up in a cutscene just before this. She basically can leave the Shadowlands whenever she wants now, apparently. She just goes back there to be a wagie.
>>736658790she was so epic and cool and good at her job she cleaned up the sneedolands in a few years obviously chud
As someone who quit WoW back in Vanilla (I regret not staying for TBC) would I even understand what the story is about today if you told me?
>>736658790The explanation is "there is always a loophole" and I wish I am shitposting
>>736634687It's normal to be driven to protect your offspring. It's a bigger job with daughters because a boy is expected to eventually become self-sufficient and able to protect himself (and a family of his own).But sadly, when you're a pozzed, self-hating midwit you think that "protecting" your daughters means coddling them, both directly and by embracing retarded, society-endangering ideologies that will coddle them on an industrial scale.They can't think beyond the performative and, counterproductive ideas that have been programmed into them.They are more concerned with "feeling like" they have helped their daughters than with actually being a good father, a good writer, or a good anything.
>>736610965Warcraft is so fuckin gay now, it's painful...
>warcraft>makepeacewtf
>>736658884be glad you didnt stay for tbc they had already ran out of ideas by then and started throwing heroes into the grinder for raid bosses
So, they defeat Xalantath but she runs away and now we have to fight her in The Last Titan? So, is Xalantath like the final big baddie? I don't even know what her fucking plan is. She freed the dark naaru from arator's mother, corrupted the sunwell, and then what? Her plans were foiled, and it seemed like she was afraid to fight Sylvanas.
>>736640707>THE arcane spell before tbcThat was only ever used for finishing fleeing targets in pvp
>>736659187shut the fuck up nigger who tf cares
>>736659319Don't you have school in a few hours? Might want to make sure your homework is done.
>>736658675Is a Half-Life mod.
>>736659187>So, they defeat Xalantath but she runs awayHasn't that happened like 3 times now?
>>736617260>kekIt's so easy to forget.
You know what WoW's tone and writing reminds me of? Avatar: The Last Airbender. Big fantasy setting with the illusion of politics, but it all boils down to "come on guys, let's all get along, cause racism is bad." And the thing is, I feel like it's intentional. We definitely have millennial writers now, and they LOVE Avatar, cause it's like anime, but without all the problematic stuff.
>>736617260i had no idea what the fuck this was until i saw the >carrot on a stickI'VE SEEN THIS NIGGA
>>736610965Modern blizzard wouldn't have the balls to put the word "rape" in a quest. I'm amazed they didn't remove it in classic wow
>>736610965So all the Elves are suddenly friends now? Everything that made the Blood Elves interesting is now gone if they're just welcoming the treacherous Alliance High Dogs back in? Void Elves are also welcomed back despite being power hungry and what the Blood Elves USED to be? Night Elves are all hugs and kisses with their wayward brethren despite shitting on them consistently since the Highborne ran off? The Nightborne exist I guess?
>>736659558did they remove the UOOH of stalvan questline
>>736610965What game?
>>736659641World of Warcuck
>>736612962>line up>it's a huge messMakes me kek every time
>>736658837>can leave the Shadowlands whenever she wantsThey shouldn't even be mentioning the Shadowlands. Honestly just pretend it didn't happen.No one actually dies in Warcraft. They get processed by a giant tranny and sent to an afterlife island floating in the nothing to go do things as decided by the afterlife gods (who don't get along). It cheapens the entire existence of the Warcraft universe, particularly their faiths. Since they're meaningless if all that happens is everyone turns into a blue ghost and flies through the robotic processing center.Even as a Diablo expansion pack it's a bad idea. It shouldn't have ever been considered as something inside Warcraft. We can pop in and out of hell to do daily quests? We meet gods that are ineffectual and stupid? When you have to explain the logic of an afterlife, you've jumped the narrative shark, it should just be something you touch on or get a glimpse of.
>>736630712he's white, what did you expect?
>>736659705Oh no, you're missing the NEW thing Blizzard is trying to hint at: The Shadowlands are FAKE! Sylvanas actually had a POINT! She hinted it in the latest cutscene, and in a quest recently. Blizz wants to retcon Shadowlands, and take Sylvanas off the bench, because despite making her a genocidal freak who betrayed her own faction and people, they just gosh darn love her, and need to give her more leeway than a million other characters we raided and looted.
>>736610965When do you guys think wow/blizzard properly died? People say cata was bad but it's fucking god compared to what it is now. For me picrel is a contender
>>736620296Did Todd transition?What the fuck, that's uncanny.
>>736659832Cata was when Blizzard was hitting peak arrogance. 2021, after the MeTooing of the staff, was when they hit peak soi.
>>736659558
>>736659884That admittedly never made it into the launch version of the game.
>>736659705The point isn't to make something good, the point is to make something that keeps people trapped in the skinner box
>>736610965World of Familycraft
>>736633357>>736640645The entire civilization of Quel'Thalas signing on with the Horde never made any fucking sense.
>>736659493AtLA had way more nuanced writing than this fucking shambles.
>>736660082No you see, the Blood Elves joined the faction that previously tried to rape and kill them, because Sylvanas was in the faction that previously tried to rape and kill Lordaeron. It all makes perfect sense, don't question it.
>>736659832>My 12 year old stood up and said "I will not play this colonialist, misogynistic garbage! DO BETTER, PARENT!"Then everyone clapped and laid off another 100 employees
btw what happened to our girl? she still into orcs?
>>736659832yeah bro it was because of kids and not because he wants to fuck sylvannas
>>736610965elves make everything worse, big surprise
>>736659953It should have
>>736610965Quel'dorei > Ren'dorei > sin'dorei > Shal'dorei > Kaldorei
So who are they war-ing against, now that they are all friends
>>736659832lol future generations will be running the old unpozzed builds of the game on private servers after the official ones are long gone, Danny
I'd love to see metrics about this nonsense. Did it actually increase player traffic on any servers? Did people actually participate? Did other players deliberately avoid playing during the event? What was the net gain/loss of player activity from it? What did this cost to implement? How much revenue was derived from it? Did they gain any subscribers because of it? Did they lose any?I know they'll never admit *any* of the above, but I genuinely wonder if this pandering bullshit actually does more harm than good at this point, right in the pocketbook (where at least investors can still be coaxed into checking).
>>736660372cthulu monster puppeting a barefoot zombie blood elf
>>736614863>PicDo women want that? I mean they can have it if they want.
>>736660612Is this pandering? I just think it's retarded. I'm not sure what the major implications of "let's put aside our differences and be friends" are in terms of culture war stuff. It's just really really lame and fucking gay.
>>736660180She should use magic to make her hair all blonde again. She's still hot as fuck, and not even that old, but the white hair does make her look older. Imagine how hot she'd look if she went back to all blonde, and even her mother is hot as fuck. If you think about it, Arthas had it all and threw it away. He had Jaina, a kingdom to inherit, being trained by Uthur, and just being handsome and full of potential. I think they really character assassinated Uther in Shadowlands, but Shadowlands was just awful in general. A lot of people were excited to see popular characters return and instead we got a bunch of garbage.
whos that semen demon on the left and does she burn the coal or not
>>736660794bult for HUMAN MALE PALADIN cock
>>736630330Every race in warcraft hates each other, it's about a series of race wars.
>>736660761Arthas had always been something of a loose cannon, he was doomed the moment Invincible died.
>>736610965Legion was pretty much the last bit of "Old Warcraft" they had. The war against Sargeras and the Burning Legion. Once that was closed off that was pretty much the green light for all the modern "writers" to throw their dumb ass ideas and shit into what you see now.
>>736661024
>Arthas gets made super dead because you need to move on already from the past>Sylvanas gets brought back mere 2 xpacs after she was shelvedDoes anyone left still care even the slightest bit about lore?
>>736661085The worst combination you can imagine is when you combine feminists with waifufags. See all Princess Peach in the new Mario movies.
World of Warcraft was never fun. God actually like created mmorpgs and thought they were cool enough to show to a person. Hes such a fucking failure dude.
>>736659832Properly?When they killed HotS, made Hearthstone pay to win, and released that pathetic Warcraft 3 remake made by Malaysians in the same year.It was like, "how little do you care about your reputation now?". Activision is just piggybacking on 90s Blizzard's success until they've bled the last whale dry, then they'll forget Blizzard ever happened.They made that Warcraft Rumble trailer the same year and they didn't release it for three more years and all it was was a tap-the-screen-to-spawn-troops mobile brainless RTS. What a fucking joke.
>>736661017They actually have the exact same writer. God does all the writing for all the games. There is literally no difference. God didn’t change his skill level, he didn’t learn anything new, he didn’t get better or worse. It just looks so weird to me to see somebody make a comment like yours. Can you really not notice the writers names are jokes? He names his clones joke names.
>>736619205Looks like an AI edit
Who actually plays WoW for the story? Like seriously? Games built for raiding and m+
>>736612962Kek. Kinda fitting considering it's the same with the old europe vs africa.
>>736661229Hes actually such a laughing stock. He just sits there writing and drawing pictures because he has nothing else to do. Then he tries to show it to us, and we say good job dude. Nobody fucking wants to talk to him. I spit on his future grave once he gets caught.
>>736661148damn shame how that entire xpac turned out because of that unholy combodoubly so because Shadowlands could have honestly been redeemed if it had all been a setup for the Lich King to return, tearing open the whole twisted afterlife itself causing the dead to spill out into the living world, add in maybe another cataclysm style world changing event with a timeskip and you could have milked 5 entire expansions out of a lich king reborn storyline at minimum
>>736658526>>spawn an entire billion dollar genre>look inside>ASSFAGGOTS kills off RTS games forever by making an even more retard-friendly version of RTS than blizzslop'snice, very cool, thanks
>>736661161>>736661229>>736661316...Is this schizobabble? I'm sorry, it's 4AM, what the fuck is this shit? Do you mean like, "God" God, or is there some writer who calls himself that?
>>736661379The lich king was written in the same way as the wizard of oz. It’s a story about sexual denial living in North America. Very shit tier, totally passionless and uninteresting. They turn everything into a porno because it’s literally illegal to make sexual remarks to strangers. And by they, I mean lucifer, the games real designer.
>>736661460Can you or can you not comprehend metzen is literally a joke about sexual denial and coping by playing MMORPGs. You “met” “zen”. 10/10 people fail to agree, metzen is gods clone and so are you.
>>736661460it's a new tactic by the jeets sent over by the corpos schizzobabble in threads critiquing their games to kill the discussion, you'll not see this schizzo show up in a thread that is positive
>>736661460either schizo hour posters or european NEET schiz who just woke up at 1:30pm.
>>736661296Raiding is fucking retarded my bro
>>736635346Yes. I do nostalgia trips on RetroWoW every now and then just to look at the scenery and perhaps do some memorable quest.
>>736661616Claiming wow is bad apparently just sells more copies. The game is actually bad though, and I never enjoyed a second of it. Lucifer apparently likes to play it after he’s done fucking a girls ass, and he is the actual girl. He literally dates his own clones, and even reproduces with them. And, his son or daughter is yet again lucifer again. And, he lives as some big happy family of clones. All sharing the same brain even. It’s pretty weird here dude, he literally believes he’s god, and deserves the power to create conscious life in this world. Lol, that’s such a fail god dude. Complete failure.
>Lorthemar finally gets some screentime >everyone else gets moreThe monkey paw curls
>>736661826>guess the placeJintha'alor or some troll settlement in Hinterlands. There's that one ruin filled with slimes.
>>736661296The story usually had cool moments. I wouldn't say I played it for the story but it definitely had interesting concepts and cool voicework. I have not stayed subbed to a single expac from start to finish but around a dozen voice lines continue to live rent free in my head. I have more hours in FFXIV and I wouldn't be able to name a single memorable line besides SLOPPEH.
In a blessed alternate universe, WoW still offers badass "blood and thunder" testosterone content and she has became canon.
>>736643546Ehm.. Thunder Bluff?
>>736631990I still don't know WHY the fuck would they make up a new playable race (void elf) who can looks exactly like high elves instead of just giving us alliance high elves which makes much more sense
>>736662228Oh my fucking god, for goddamned decades you people have been yapping about this.
>>736661918he came out far better than most male characters in modern wow, you got monkey pawed but the paw was being nice about it
>>736610965High Elves just shouldn't exist in more anymore, they should've just had all High Elves become Blood Elves
>>736662228Because for the longest time key devs said they didn't want to add a race you could confuse for belves. The helf customisation options were added only once those devs left.
>>736662051God I wish I was a worg(en)
>>736658092>Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or madeshadowlands is the clearest example of this i've seenthe contempt nu-writers have for warcraft is mindboggling
>>736617934The fragmentation of the left thanks to the psyop to break occupy wall street
>>736662409This, and I would know because I am one of the feds that made it happen
>>736662371>Void elves should exist>But not High Elves, despite making 100000 times more senselol kill yourself
>>736662408Shadowlands instead could have ended with Arthas doing an inverse of the WotLK cinematic, instead of breaking open ice from above he's breaking open reality itself from below rising up among a swirling mass of souls before almost peacefully taking his seat on his throne in Icecrown but nu-writers could have never
>>736659832WoD is the starting point of modern wow and every expansion after it followed its model.>fucked economy forever because blizz is too pussy to do a gold reset>fucked class design forever, now specs aren't specs they're separate kits bundled with your class>pruned most soulful class abilities and most abilities shared with other specs>mythic 20 and flex heroic modelCata is also a strong contender because it's the start of the downfall>raped the old zones which was the best thing the wow team ever created>class design started going to shit, new talents were boring>new villain nobody cared about>new zones nobody cared aboutI don't have a definite answer but it's one of these two
>>736662549When did I say Void Elves should exist? Void Elves were a colossal asspull
>>736662624An Karanir Thanagor
>>736611198That's a male
>>736662637>raped the old zones which was the best thing the wow team ever createdI will never not be upset about what they did to Westfall Going from a grounded conflict between artisans turned bandits and corrupt nobles with the common folk trapped between themTo a reference to a show that was already on it's last season by the time Cata was released and already felt dated by the time the next xpac rolled around
>>736662656>When did I say Void Elves should existWhen you didn't say they shouldn't exist, colossal faggot
>>736662637Old zones were dogshit and pre Cata class design was dogshit
>>736662848You're a faggot
>>736662884Youre brown
>>736662939He's vexed by that.
Are allyfags still crying about not (rightly) getting high elves?
>>736662991Always.
>>736661296I have no fucking clue when this whole "caring about story in an MMO" shit started. We still laughed at >MMO story shit in the early 10s. Now everyone puts the story as the main thing and get offended when devs call them out. Like Ion had an offhand remark how it's a "niche" thing to care about it not that long ago. And he's fucking right.
I like how they forgot about the highborne night elf guys from Dire Maul, they would've been a better fit but ah well.
>>736663086It doesn't have to be amazing, but at the very least it shouldn't be fucking dogshit.
>>736642545>see attractive woman>want to transition instead of wanting to have sex with themanon are you retarded or a closet homosexual?
>>736663251I want to have sex with them as a woman
>>736661296>>736663086idk man I just like lore
>>736663086>I have no fucking clue when this whole "caring about story in an MMO" shit started.Of course you don't, you're in your 20s.
>>736663176It doesn't have to be there at all. Reading quests and being interested in the "story" is something less than 10% of the players used to do. Now look at this thread. Everything here is about the story. Everywhere else? Also all about the story. About the "story characters" and what they do. Even single player game discussion doesn't all revolve around the story, they talk about, you know, the game itself too. Even gachas get gameplay discussion sometimes. But MMO discussions? Story is king for some reason. Even though nothing has changed from ten years ago.>>736663426Obviously but it's used to be treated just extra flavor, not the main dish.
blood elf feeton my face
>>736663495When the gameplay of a game is thoroughly solved, all there is left to talk about is the story, and the story is dogshit. Being of lesser importance doesn't excuse what Blizzard writing absolute fucking garbage, especially since the window dressing is the only fucking thing the game has left at this point, and it already had a very low bar to clear to be acceptable.
>>736663423That's fucking retarded but alright
>>736663472Yeah my guy we used to have such riveting discussion of story in RO and LA2 you wouldn't believe, totally. What were those games most known for? Why their story and quests of course! Obviously the epic story characters and cinematics too. Absolutely.
it's unreal how often I think about the game but I keep refusing to touch it
>>736658204Maybe just pick a woman that isn't a piece of shit? Guys marry a chick for her looks and then wonder why nothing worked out in their lives. Plenty of good women exist, but they get ignored by dipshit moids because they don't look and act like whores.
>>736663661That's all true, I agree. But I consider it just a symptom of a bigger problem. If everything else in the game doesn't warrant a discussion and all you have left to talk about is the story then the game is utter dogshit to begin with and a good story wouldn't make it any better. Imagine for a moment that Midnight had a good story and utilized its characters well, would you honestly change your opinion about it if the rest was unchanged? The boring dumbed down gameplay and engagementslop "content" design drip fed weekly into your mouth? If so then maybe the players also don't deserve a good GAME and just story shit is enough to keep people placated. The game will never improve if people just grill the bad story and not how fucking alien and formulaic the game itself has become. I think it shouldn't be just expected and assumed that it's shit, it should be called out before all the story shit.
>>736663668WoW popularised focus on storytelling, or more precisely the delivery of it, and they kept looking for new ways to tell it arguably up to Cata. FFXI is less popular but it also had cutscenes that mog some modern singleplayer games and is remembered fondly to this day for its worldbuilding and story. GW1 is basically a pseudo-MMO with a heavy focus on story a lot of people grew attached to. EQ, WoW and to a lesser degree XI and GW all contributed to devs realising that an MMO can be more than just a dungeon crawler, and during the MMO gold rush a lot of mid games were released with hilariously cringe stories that caused what you now rightfully remember as everyone laughing at >MMO story shit. In the 2000s though it was WoW itself that pioneered storytelling, even going so far as to hire fan machinima creators to work on in-game cutscenes.
>>736611354Good to see the 50 or so high elves have finally become equal to the 120,000 blood elves
Was Stalvan Mistmantle the Jeffrey Epstein of WoW?
>>736663772SameIt hurts having grown up a big fan of Warcraft to see it now. It's even worse knowing two of my other favorite game series growing up were Halo and Pokémon I don't even know which had the biggest fall
>>736642985I saw this dude at the arcantina just chilling
>>736664094when the game isnt formulaic people have a melt down
>>736663772Same, I just can't go back anymore. Blizzard is the abusive ex of gaming
>>736663772Same. For me I'm just autistic about the pricing structure these days, I will never support Blizzard for charging $90 for expansions and it doesn't matter if I can get them cheaper later on, I refuse to engage with retail because of that pricing model. I'm not interested in classic either.
>>736664437the expansion is $50 retard
>>736614826This is very, VERY problematic of Blizzard
>>736664649It's $90 if you want to play on the actual release date and not 5 days later or whatever it is. Early access used to be free, now it's $40. Microsoft doing that across the board is making me never buy any of their games.
>>736649691Old Gods were essentially space parasites designed to prep nascent world souls into becoming Void Lords' next meals
>>736664279To be fair I wouldn't necessarily call WoW players "people".
>>736628854His son has some massive arms
>>736629296Sadly this. Shame because playing a death knight in MoP is really fucking fun but only ones still playing are GDKP organizers desperate for increasing the miniscule pots.
>>736664697the actual release is 3 weeks later when raids come out retard
>>736664745>think not>still amThe implications are truly staggering
>>736664939You still miss the opening rush which is fun and most importantly it prevents you from leveling and doing the initial gearing process with friends unless you all fork over the cash/gold because at least one of the boys is going to have no self control. If they want to nickel and dime the game like faggots then they won't see a penny from me.You're not respected as a customer, why would you give them money?
what led to the rise of inceldom among WoW players?
>>736610965character models and armor look even dumber now
>>736633120This just makes me expect that when we get to Northrend again there's gonna be a questline where we have to help a pussified version of the Vykul apologize to the protodrakes for mistreating them.Probably just a 1:1 how to train your dragon reference.
>>736665090I think you mean trannydom
>>736665216Well we already had friendly Nerubians last expac so anything's possible.
>>736665086questing isnt fun at all and questing in laggy congested zones is even worse> it prevents you from leveling and doing the initial gearing process with friendsgearing starts way after early access release retardagain youre too dogshit to understand the game. Nothing matters until raids come out, period. They even keep dungeon item level artificially low until then so you have to go back once the real game starts
>>736628049>aurafarmedGo back
>>736620316how badly do you think blizzard writers seethed when they realized the writers in 2006 made Arator a male and they had no way to retcon it and make yet another female character
>>736662549High elves would've all devolved into fel elves or whatever happens to nightborne when they don't get magic.They need magic to survive. They lost their sunwell and weren't willing to stomach the measures the blood elves took to continue to get magic, so they would've died out at as a civilization.Void Elves don't make any sense either but that's irrelevant to whether or not high elves should still exist.
>>736665580>again youre too dogshit to understand the game.No, you're just too mazed and are defending terrible practices. Why even sell early access if that's the case? The core problem isn't addressed, you are not respected as a customer and it's designed to rip off people that want to play together initially.Leveling IS fun when you're only doing it once or twice. Modern WoW fucking sucks, the time gates in general are retarded because they need to make sure the guilds doing the Mythic race can level up 10+ alts before it starts.
>>736665901im sure more than a couple of breast milk bottles were thrown across the room that day
>>736662637Don't forget WoD introduced the token and normalized this idea that if suck too much to play the game you can just cheat and pay for the shit you can't win on your own. Gold selling/trading always existed but you were always called a shitter, now everyone does it and calls you a shitter if you don't.
>>736665930Leveling is never fun, its always abysmal dogshit designed for subhumans like (You)
>>736666527>new varied content? no thanks, i want to grind the same 9 fights for 8 monthsActual no joke autism.
>>736665443>The one chad crypt lord whose friendly with players dies off screenMaldraxxus all over again
>>736666527>poopsocker calling others subhuman
>>736666613>collect 8 bear asses AGAIN>variedno retard
>>736667020>new locations>new monsters>new dungeons>they do have the dumb little quests with different mechanics that end up becoming dailies/reused as world quests
>>736663086Even thought he's right I still need a cool villains to kill and take their loot. Everything and everyone in WoW is insufferable since Dragonflight. I don't even want to play it anymore, even though I believe that the main gameplay of WoW - dungeons and raids, are still pretty good.
>>736667224>new locationsnone of which matters because we dont have environmental mechanics>new monstersbearspikey bearundead bearicy bearits all the same shit, they just walk up and auto attack you>new dungeonsjust hallways full of bears until m+15 when things actually get mechanics. Guess what isnt out until the raids release?>gimmick questsvehicle quests are all dogshit
>>736667438Yeah, no joke actual autism. I'm surprised you're not playing EVE, embrace the sterile spreadsheets.
>>736666057Token released at wod? damn I thought it was much younger than that
>>736666527>>736665580the modern mmo audiencego play diablo if all you care about is running instances harder every time faggot.your kind killed the game
