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Well? What can they do?
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>haha click my blog
no
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What's with game journos vehemently defending this game. It's just some slop extraction shooter
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>>736611313
they got the call
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>>736611313
All that marketing money had to go somewhere
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>>736611046
ONLY SHITLUSTING ASS EATER FAGGOTS PLAY MARATHON
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>>736611313
The guy that ran Destiny the longest was an ex games journo with no relevant experience. The guy in charge of community management created the Destiny subreddit. They reward loyalty
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>>736611046
All they had to do was focus more on solo players instead of trying to make a shitty battle royale. too late now though
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>>736611313
What's with pol chuds vehemently attacking this game. It's just some slop extraction shooter
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>same exact trick
losing 80% players within a day and try to have jounojeets cover it up?
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>>736611563
srs improvement of the graphic style right there, they should hire them
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>>736611046
Just imagine for kek's sake that Bungie was sold to Pearl Abyss along with their failing franchise rights.
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>>736611046
get rid of classes and let us customize whatever we want
make it less competitive and more casual
fix the goddamn UI and simplify shit
tone down the garish plastic colors plastered everywhere
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>>736611046
Well, Bellular likes Marathon, so therefore I like Marathon
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>>736611046
they can go back in time and never hire joe ziegler
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>>736611046
Probably just cut down on the number of teams per map and add some more shit to the matchmaking algorithm.
I think a dedicated PvE mode would just not be interesting, you'd fill up your vault in like two runs because the bots are just not threatening if you aren't distracted by PvP concerns, but with the current number of players you often get pushed into PvP within the first minute of each match and that means like half the players in each match are getting kicked out without having the time to do anything.
As for matchmaking they obviously don't have the playerbase for truly good skill based matchmaking but rather than match by season level which is effectively just playtime they could try a bit harder to not put free kits with people in all purples/golds.
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>>736611563
i will now play your game
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>>736612339
>>736612090
thank god you morons don't work in game design


marathon needs more dynamic events so every run doesn't feel exactly the same, not to be ground down into some even blander a la carte asset set
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>>736612414
More events would be nice but honestly between caches and supply drops and anomalies and lockdowns and wardens and quest specific shit I think there's a decent number of them already, maybe they could put events into the procedural quest pool though since those are all boring as fuck currently.
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>>736612160
This guy needs to understand his hair is gone and accept it
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>>736611046
not clicking cuck
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>>736612160
Used to watch this guy daily until he did damage control for games like Suicide Squad and refused to acknowledge woke as an issue turning games off
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What happened?
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>>736611563
based cheesys
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>>736612670
probably anti shill campaign by other big studios, there's no way that game is worse than overwatch rivals or any other shit shooter.
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>>736611046
>one weird trick to make marathon a success
they’ve gotten to buzzfeed level of cope.
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>>736612670
ohnoohno
>>736612858
way worse those are at least free
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>>736611313
Sony paying "Journos" so Microslop sloppy seconds buyout isn't the worst trade deal of all time.

They literally saw Bungle post-Halo and went:
>Hmmm, yes. Let's buy this company that hasn't had a hit since Halo 3.
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>>736611563
But muh lack of Linux support was supposed to stop that!!!!

Did Linux super hackers break into Bungles game!?
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>>736612913
>way worse those are at least free
I don't believe you
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>>736612549
I mean, you said it. Every single event is just a capture point or, with a quest, drop off.

Put a team of overpowered jannies in a game and have them hunt down players based on who has the highest kill count.

Put a transfer point in a map that takes you to another map during peak Rook times, or before everyone else can join in, or does something else interesting. Maybe it even takes you to the Marathon but requires a series of difficult tasks to unlock that'll get you killed most of the time.

Put in actual boss fights instead of overpowered guys wearing the same shit and a raid (???) on the Marathon.

That or go full Dark & Darker and double down on the PVE shit with subsequent tiers to the raid with harder bosses as you "descend"

Like literally do anything to make the game interesting other than just put points of interest on the early beta version of Tarkov's roadmap.
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>>736612670
extraction shooters are not the "next big thing", despite the industry really wanting it to be
they're only really for the most hardened shooter junkies using the loss of gear as a stimulant to fire their burned out synapses
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>>736612670
Nobody wants Extraction sloppa that is sweaty.

ARC is propped up by PvE carebears players being a majority over the PvP folks.

Marathon doesn't have those, and really there isn't a reason to PvE here. The bots are just window dressing to hide the low player counts.
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>>736613039
bullseye
its a whale-grinding genre for dopamine burnouts, same as hero shooters
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>>736613039
Extraction shooters are an underserved genre since Tarkov is the only hardcore one and the developers are complete apes, Bungie could have easily eaten their lunch if they weren't so obsessed with making their players form parties in discord
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>>736612858
This game has no hook for casuals at all and is primary meant for sweats. This game never stood a chance. There are people in the Destiny subreddit still grinding a decade old content doing the same trivial shit and this is the autistic casual base Bungie turned their backs on
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>>736612668
Why? Its clear he was just a suck up using click bait for videos. He doesnt really care which side hes sucking as long as it gets him more views.
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>>736611563
I kneel
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>>736612993
The security door mechanics aboard the Marathon (which 95% of players will never see) and the Pinwheel achieve some sense of character but they're the only two things that change the feel of the game from looting and shooting in a largely empty map like PUBG 12 years ago.

>>736613236
It's one of the most incomprehensible acts of autocannibalism I've ever seen, especially since they failed to tie Destiny into Marathon in any way despite repeatedly trying to build the 7th Column universe since the earliest days of Halo.
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>>736613039
Companies so badly want Extraction shooters to be a thing because they are the easiest thing to make. Just a map with some enemies and gear with repetitive collect missions and most importantly death is important to this game design since it sets your progress back causing more repetition and grind meaning you don't need as much new content. People supporting these types of games are fucking cancer
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It really is a shame that game development and enjoying games have almost no overlap. I guess you could say the same about most production and consumption, but with games sometimes things go wrong that would have been very plain to any decently achieved gamer at step one.
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>>736611563
It's funny how much the cheat UI blends with the rest of the game. Basically visual vomit.
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>>736611563
This genre is like honey for the lower-than-scum cheating flies.
Because gear fear is so potent and nobody wants to die during a long and arduous raid that nailed them excellent gear, the stress relief that cheating gives is just too addicting for them.
This is what the genre will bring, inevitably.
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>>736613259
He most likely is a leftist but tries to hide it.
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>>736611313
Sony spent 3.6 billion dollars buying Bungie.
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>>736612560
>The Hairline is Gone - And we knew it all along
>Now We Know Why - Hairline's dark secret
>Hairline Lied (Players Are Noticing)
>This One Key Element is the BEST Hairline has ever been
>Players are getting Tired of THIS (The End of Hairline?)
>New Hairline Announced - The HYPE Is Real
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>>736611563
Is this really that much of an advantage when everyone else has thermals
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>>736612560

>not taking dutasteride
>not taking minoxidil
>not doing microneedling
>not taking tretinoin
>not wearing lasercap
>not taking spiro

it's like this guy WANTED to be bald.
Being bald is OPTIONAL.

also his hair transplant barely did shit.
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A miracle from DLSS 5.
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https://www.shacknews.com/article/148554/marathon-review-score 9/10 maratrooners keep winning
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>>736612668
what are you talking about?
Bellular clearly stated that Suicide Squad has issues that were self inflicted.
and Bellular also acknowledges cultural issues and internet outrage regarding games.

I actually prefer him to not be so passionate and bring too much of his feelings regarding gaming news.
We already got too many streamers/react folks who brings 110% of their emotions regarding gaming news like Asmongold, LegendaryDrops, Hero Hei, etc.
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>>736612670
No way. I don't believe it. It has already dipped below 10,000? Has it even been out for a month yet? I wasn't a hater or a lover of Marathon or Bungie before it released, and I had no guesses as to how it was going to turn out, but I never imagined it would have fallen off as quick as this.
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>>736613973
No he didn't. He had a mass exodus of fans when he was ignoring the woke issue
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>>736614114
>Has it even been out for a month yet?
Literally today is a month.
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>spent 3.6 billion dollars buying Bungie
And the hairline of some e-clown holds more attention, go figure
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>>736611563
why is it impossible for the server to only share positional information of players that are only within visible sight of a player?
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>>736614114
there is just not much of a game to play
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>>736613758
>bro just take all this shit that will kill you or your dick
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>>736613758
>doing any of that gay shit
Just go bald you vain bitch.
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>>736612160
>having frizzy jewish hair and attempting to do a comb over with that
it's over bro
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>>736613973
Any streamer/react andy who focuses mainly on legal/economic/business/technological aspect of gaming news but does NOT give the same attention to cultural issues is most likely a leftist.
Any true blooded rightwinger would do the opposite and focus on woke cultural issues.

and we all know that centrists don't exist, so don't even bring that up.
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>>736613758
>microneedling
This is bloodletting tier
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>>736611313
They have to defend western gaming no matter what because they need it to be sucessful so they stay relevant. If korean and japanese games become the mainstream then western journos stand to lose a lot of influence in the industry
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>>736613758
For the amount of money you waste on all that shit you are better off waiting till it gets really bad and using that money for a trip to Turkey
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>>736613546
>Sony spent 3.6 billion dollars buying Bungie.
Okay so what? There's nothing wrong with settling down with a washed up, long past it's prime game company. Sony doesn't need your permission to acquire Bungie.
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>>736611629
taking out garbage is a necessary chore, not a pleasure, but you still can't half-ass it.
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>>736614678
These people are not human and fucking insane. That subreddit is 99% blind praise or game discussion
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How much are hair transplants on average?
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>>736611046
>comeback
>when it is already perfect
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>>736611046
I checked out the article and it's already outdated from the first sentence. It's dropped below 30k peak now
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>>736614973
BUY THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY CHUD
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>>736611313
Its a literal tranny made game and not just any troon LGBT team, its high level. They all have deep connections. It's the same players that have been causing problems for a long time. Same patterns, same players, same money.
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>>736611313
Game journos stopped pretending to be anything but paid shills for major publishers and devs years ago.
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>>736615017
It keeps happening
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>>736615085
Did they even try with Concord?
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>>736615150
Yes, the game just wasn't alive very long for there to be as many articles as we've seen for Maratroon
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>>736614915
Advanced schitzoposting.
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>>736611563
I just looked this up, there's no way in fuck people are pathetic enough to pay $7 a day to cheat in a dying game.
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>>736615150
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I really hope that when Marathon dies, game developers will finally take the hit and stop making extraction shooters.

none of these games stay popular for much time.
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>>736614973
I sometimes wonder what drives one to screenshot and post tweets of random people.
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>>736615256
Besides Arc Raiders which panders to casuals. Strange.
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>>736615304
(You)s. Thanks, by the way
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>>736615304
hello tahnit
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>>736615246
I'm pretty sure this guy does it for free.
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>>736612670
>it actually peaks at under 30k now
This is like watching a train crash in slow motion.
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>>736615256
I am a game dev for a AAA studio. Here is some inside baseball. Extractions shooters are not the next thing. Rogue Likes are. Companies love how cheap they are to make and the repetitive grinding and feel it's a game you can make MTX on while not needing to host online servers. There is a reason nu GoW 2 had a rogue like mode added to it. That was a test. Get used to that genre for the next couple of years
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>>736615328
I'd give it Arc Raiders less than a year before it hits Marathon level numbers.
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>>736615441
>Get used to that genre for the next couple of years
I play indie games so I already got used to that genre in the last 15 years
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>>736615256
>none of these games stay popular for much time.
why is that?
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>>736615430
>slow motion
But publishers seem to see their GaaS turds failing quicker every week?
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>more people watching super mario maker 2 than marathon (3.1k) on twitch
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>>736615601
Based. They should make a Switch 2 version with more design options.
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>>736615542
Yea but now the AAA devs are going to do it.
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>>736615256
Sea of Thieves is an extraction shooter and has been alive for many many years and still gets updates.
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game's artstyle just isn't very appealing, they should rework it and make it cleaner
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>>736612924
In what world was Destiny and Destiny 2 not hits?
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>>736614301
It's because they use a line trace to verify a bullet hit. The game I'm working on avoids this buy using physical bullet projectiles. The the player character location is never referenced out to another player's blueprint.
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>>736615692
Literally fucking who?
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>>736611563
I thought that was a legit ability in the game
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You lived to see:
>Microsoft sell Bungie
>Halo die
>Activision buy Bungie
>Activision sell Bungie
>Sony buy Bungie
>Destiny die
>Bungie release a new Marathon
>Bungie die
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>>736615698
that is the one thing they won't rework due to the resources and time needed. they fucked up and now they're committed to this dogshit style
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>>736615869
Yeah Sony would rather write off $4B than admit the mistake (unironically)
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>>736615734
I see
>using physical bullet projectiles
don't you run into issues with collision detection? bullets are too small and too fast
I played around with ODE once and ran into tunneling issues with bodies that were too small and fast
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>>736611046
live stream how all the maratroon developers commit seppuku
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>>736615441
Co-op roguelites are pretty neat
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>>736614301
>why is it impossible for the server to only share positional information of players that are only within visible sight of a player?
Valorant already does this. Hopefully with better AI coding tools, western devs will be able to catch up to what Chinese coders are already doing.
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>>736615229
Apparently something like the top 4 tiers in ranked is nothing but cheaters. Streamers got their rank/level up high enough to buy the tag to get into the first upper tier, saw what was happening and noped the fuck out
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>>736615841
How long until Halo studios dies? I give it another 5 years.
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>>736616378
They are fucking insane for making a Halo remake with no multiplayer. It is starting to come off to me that AAA devs have been specifically told never to make multiplayer boomer shooters ever again for some reason.
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>>736611313
Because iff the game fails, then the chuds win
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>>736616578
Based, fuck MPsloppers
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>>736616631
They won't make them because you can't monetize it as much as seasonal garbage shooters we have now
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>>736612560
Zoom zooms think shaving their head is always the answer. His hair is good enough. He would not look better bald.
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>>736616578
>It is starting to come off to me that AAA devs have been specifically told never to make multiplayer boomer shooters ever again for some reason.
don't want your cash cow skinner boxes to compete if you're owned by the same company
any game that's not drowning in microtransactions gets eschewed
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>>736616765
If you hung out with this guy and saw his combover in person and not the carefully controlled angles of his stream you wouldn't be saying this
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>>736615974
the usual dev-cope was always to make the bullets laughable slow and the maps tiny enough to hide that some avg baseball player would have a 50/50 chance of batting them out of the air.
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>>736615441
>Rogue Likes
Okay, I actually liked Returnal though. That one and Astrobot are the only two Snoy sloppas I actually enjoyed, so I would be very alright with this on the off-chance you're not a larper.
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>>736616578
ODST didn't have multiplayer. CE Anniversary didn't either just a map pack for Reach
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>>736616983
Returnal was good because it had good gunplay. The roguelite aspect was entirely superfluous
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>>736616996
What is the point of this autistic whataboutism? Both of those had multiplayer elements with ODST reusing Halo 3 and your autistic brown low IQ whataboutism doesn't refute the point I was making about games today
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>>736612160
>>736612668
>>736613259
>>736613973
Reminder that it is 2026 and Bellular chose to go into pseudo game journalism

This includes:
shilling for the industry
crying about microtransactions
crying about live service
and ignoring real issues


He also uses Bluesky and has the link visible at the end of every YouTube video.

The fate of all Blizzardrones who didn't unsub after lich king was always to be enormous woke lefty faggots. This is inevitable.
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>>736617073
>Returnal was good because it had good gunplay. The roguelite aspect was entirely superfluous
Also the randomness was really minor. Do enough runs you can easily figure out where everything is once you get a feel for the areas. The important rooms were always identical and never changed
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>>736617181
>MPslopper calling anyone else brown
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>>736617073
Yes, but it still provides enough variance that it gives me more playtime from it. It's basically identical to how I feel about Dead Cells, game would be fine maybe better as a Metroidvania because the gameplay carries it more than the roguelike part, but I'm not going to hate it for arbitrarily adding variance to play around.
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>>736617276
>"I am not brown"
>can only argue in low IQ brown whataboutisms and "no u's"
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>>736612670
The only people playing Marathon are Destiny fans. It's really that simple. This game had absolutely zero impact on anyone normal.
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>>736617245
I unsubbed in early cataclysm, am I safe?
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>>736617558
No, anyone who has ever been subscribed to an MMO is afflicted with the Norwood virus. It's incurable, "fin and min" is gobbeldegook from looksmaxxers that makes you gay. It's already over anon, you should honestly just kill yourself.
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>>736614994
>Steadies
classic journalist cope the only thing its steadily doing is declining.
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>>736617417
It really feels like its community is made up of 30-40 year old men who feel obligated to play it because it is a Bungie game
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>>736614046
:(
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>>736611046
Delete this slop and bring real marathon back
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>>736617245
microtransactions, gambling, GAAS, and $1000 consoles aren't the real issues?
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>>736611046
I haven't played it but the answer is:
Ban PC players.
More maps
Campeign
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>>736611563
the funniest part about the cheating problem with marathon is how one of marathon's main promises was that there were not going to be any cheaters or that cheaters wouldn't last, they were really shitting on ark raiders over this and that got memory holed along with its rivalry
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>>736614639
and what exactly do you think happens after a transplant? you just stop losing hair?
no, you get a prescription for hair loss medicine and if you want to keep the transplanted hair, you better take it
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>>736611313
Sony is a Hollywood-controlled goytrap and always was. If Bungie were still at xbox the game would have been axed 2 days after launch. They NEED their goyslop to pay off at Snoy HQ in Cali.
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>>736618180
>Ban PC players.
That's most of the playerbase
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>>736615738
dont act dumb, pretending to not understand a point makes you look even worse that just losing an argument
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>>736611046
nothing. saturated market.
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>>736618303
>Snoy HQ in Cali
How did PS end up a Californian brand anyway? When did it turn from JP to NA?
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>>736611313
They are afraid of sony canceling their all access pass. Very fucking afraid since they can't speak chinese or korean to get in bed with tencent.
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>>736619113
I hate how Japs will only do business with the west coast due to proximity to their country
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>>736615692
Huh, I never thought about it that way but you're absolutely right
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>Here is how Bernie can still win
>Hillary's campaign was too smart to win
Why is there so much overlap between shit videogames and this kind of reality negating politics?
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>>736619113
2016
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>>736619351
My theory is that sites are so far left like reddit that the stupid leftist talking points and argument style and dehumanization tactics trickle down to arguments over hobbies now
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Can you please stop talking about this dead game already
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>>736613758
>all those hair loss methods
Those are insane copes akin to women getting plastic surgery to try to look younger. Age gracefully instead of turning into one of the Bogdanoffs.

t. anon who started going bald in his late teens and just rolled with it
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>>736614046
>the wallhack stuff in the third panel
I appreciate that attention to detail.
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>>736614790
That's because those reddit mods are banning or censoring anything even the slightest bit critical or negative about the game. I guess someone needs to pay them more if wrongthink is still slipping through
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>>736620346
Banning subhumans who want to stir shit and don't own the game is called moderation, not "censorship"
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>>736619113
>How
It was explained. Sony and Hollywood are joined at the hip.
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>Journo writes an article on April 5th saying the player count has 'stabilized at 40k
>It was under 40 players for an entire week before that
Why do they lie so much
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>>736615150
Concord died so fast it was harder for them to pretend it was doing ok, but it's still the same basic thing.

Imagine a car crash where Marathon is in the passenger seat and Concord is driving. Concord goes through the windshield and basically has ten minutes of life left when the EMTs get there and dies before they can get him in the ambulance. Marathon isn't killed instantly, but has a lot of internal damage and is dying slowly. Marathon makes it to the hospital but everyone agrees it's just a matter of time, except for the journos who maintain that Marathon is going to get up and be healthy any day now, just you wait! But everyone knows that isn't happening.
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>>736619113
PS3's initial failure was framed internally as being an issue stemming from Playstation being Japanese. The western side of Playstation smelled blood in the water so they used the PS3's early floundering as an opportunity to get their foot in the door and stage a decade-long soft coup.
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>>736611629
that doesnt really work the other way my man
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>>736620548
because they're paid to
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>>736620576
So Marathon's on insanely expensive state-of-the-art life support that's ultimately just delaying the inevitable, basically.
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>>736620445
>Admitting you're a redditor
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>>736611313
They are fanatics of zionism. A world with too many white people is a nightmare to them.
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>>736620776
I don't like Marathon but everyone making the argument that Marathon has to justify the 3 billion Sony paid and make that back is retarded. Sony didn't buy Bungie expecting that they bought Bungie hoping to get competent GaaS developers which they didn't and that is what will kill them not Marathon
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>>736611313
>What's with game journos vehemently defending this game
They played it and like it like all who played it
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>>736620860
>I don't like Marathon but everyone making the argument that Marathon has to justify the 3 billion Sony paid and make that back is retarded.
That wasn't the plan from the start, but it is after the matter of the fact after Bungie's "GaaS expertise" turned out to be a massive bust for Sony. The writing is very much on the wall that Marathon is Bungie's "fuck or walk" moment.
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>>736620917
They loved it because it wasn't a game with a long story campaign they have to invest 30 hours in and write a review no. It's a soulless shooter where after 2 hours you got enough to write a review on it where as something like Crimson Desert requires an ungodly amount of hours to review so they hate it
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>>736615692
It's a real shame people here keep forgetting Sea of Thieves.

I really liked how you can sail across infinite randomly generated maps seamlessly and meet/kill new people without even logging off or exiting the game level.
Tricks you into thinking the world and population is much more massive than it really is.

Shame more games don't do this.
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>lost 14% of players compared to just YESTERDAY
oof
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>here's how marathon can still win
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>>736620917
>They played it
Damn, three words in and you're already full of shit.
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I've been dooming this game hard but even then it's been failing harder than I ever imagined
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>>736621012
It is not the plan at all and never was. They expected that money to come from multiple projects not just one but they all failed or have yet to fail. I don't even think Marathon was ever a serious game personally. Companies will larp that they have games in development to drive up their sales price because a Bungie working on Marathon and whatever Gummi Bears is, is worth more than a Bungie just keeping the Destiny corpse alive
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>>736619351
It's just people who are wrong being unable or unwilling to admit they were wrong. A tale as old as time and not unique to vidya, politics, or anything else.
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It's crazy how Sony thought that pumping out more GAAS games would be the solution.

It's like that retarded game company who hired a new CEO who previously worked at a soap company and thought the solution to increasing the videogame company profits was to simply buy more studios and hire more people.

crazy.
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>>736621056
Is that why reviewers use their Cryo footage, an area that would fuck you until you get anal prolapse?
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>>736621159
yeah I thought it would stabilize at some point but now were in the 20k range
insane
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>>736620698
I love that meme, right up there with the 'I have evidence that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton' one for stuff that died.
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>>736620776
Marathon is in an iron lung like those old Looney Toon cartoons, but since it's an American company, that iron lung costs $100k an hour to operate.
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>>736620698
doesn't Tim Pool have more important things to discuss than videogames?

like people who live in sewers and wear tiny hats?
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>>736621083
>a Nothing But Trouble reaction image
Goddamn, you never cease to amaze me, /v/. The movie is legit insane if you've never seen it.
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I still have no idea what the fuck an extraction shooter is.
is it even an agreed upon genre?

It just looks like a MMO or looter shooter sandbox with permadeath and with all the fluff/fat trimmed off regarding things that aren't looting related.
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>>736621423
it's a slightly modified post. the original was talking about Charlie Kirk after the guy was neckshot.
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>>736621273
Cryo is not that hard to get into if this is what you are arguing
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>>736621423
Holy shit you TDS retards are this dumb.
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>>736621631
Did you reach it?
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>>736615692
>Sea of Thieves is an extraction shooter
No it fucking isn't you retard
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>>736621580
You go into a map, you find gear and you have to extract to secure the gear. If you die you lose what you found and what you came in with. That simple
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>>736621695
Tim pool derangement syndrome isn't a real thing you doofus
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>>736621702
Yes
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>>736621746
so basically a diet looter shooter with permaloss.
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>>736621461
NTA, but I really think the premise had potential if they let it be more of an even split between comedy and horror/gross-out instead of pivoting it to mostly comedy.

Also, the name and release poster didn't help, making it seem like a generic 80s comedy movie it was 1991 but let's be real the 90s didn't actually start until 1992 anyway. It was originally gonna be called "Valkenvania" and have pic related as the main poster.
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>>736621764
>being such a low IQ TDS retard you can't spot a popular meme tweet of his
Whatever they pay you jeets to post propaganda here is too much
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>>736614046
Kek
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>>736612160
didn't know who this fag is, but he talked about valve not caring about DEI slop a few years ago made me know not to watch him.
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>>736615150
They had fucling episodes in sceret level, they had merch, they had controllers and playstation bundles.
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What the fuck do you mean comeback
It released a month ago. A comeback from what?
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>>736611563
honestly that looks fun as hell, especially since there is open voice chat and you can shit all over them verbally at the same time
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I want an extraction shooter where we can loot the ENTIRE body and extract with an entire corpse.

I want to hang that corpse at my hideout and mount it on the wall as trophy.
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>>736615512
Its at the 6 month mark at 100k players. Marathon is at the 1 month mark at 20k.
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>>736621847
Yeah, the main issue with it that I learned from the Red Letter Media review was that Akroyd had total creative and editorial control and he's a known madman like George Lucas that needs someone to tardwrangle him, or you get crazy shit like the prequels. I think some kind of HBO show would've been a better format for it anyway, since the whole premise lends itself to 'what crazy shit is the Judge going to do this week?'
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>>736621798
So you know Cryo requires engaging with the game for at least 30 hours just to complete all Faction introductions
That means give or take 15 successful runs just for the Contracts, most of which you won't unlock instantly
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>>736615974
Tunneling isn't that hard to stop. Just do a ray-trace in the direction the projectile is traveling equal to the distance the bullet would travel between each physics tick, and look for any collisions along the trace.
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>>736619113
ps3 coup and sony becoming a hollywood movie company.


>>736617558
>>736617709
I wouldn't give up completely, but your best shot is palative care and management. You coudld take up being a biker and wearing a bandanna at all times, like the village people approach.

>>736621273
The pro reviewers, as in the kind who get to vote on the game awards, are not playing through the game enough to get anywhere fucking near cryo, otherwise they'd be streamers and making rev on their gameplay. They're getting curated experiences.
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>>736612160
I hate how Bellular think he's too good for culture war grifting and that it's beneath him.
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>>736622059
ai slop, but I appreciate the sentiment
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>>736622048
I wish this autistic spoiling parts of your post that aren't spoilers shit was bannable
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>>736611629
What's with Reddit sisters vehemently defending this game. It's just some slop extraction shooter
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>>736621853
I work real cheap, I operate 20 MAGA twitter accounts for only $5 a day.
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>>736622093
Not hard if you have sweats carrying you
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>>736622164
I wish blood-related parents giving birth to crybaby faggot quasimodo children like you was bannable so I guess we're all out of our comfort zone
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>>736611313
Their master wills it
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>>736621998
Obvious game is an asymetrical AVP shooter, where all 3 factions sometimes drop, sometimes defend and sometimes try to extract. Predator wants to extract carrying the best trophy possible.
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>>736622194
kill yourself jeet
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>>736622123
>The pro reviewers, as in the kind who get to vote on the game awards, are not playing through the game enough to get anywhere fucking near cryo
Source: the crackpipe
https://youtu.be/7lZSX8DQsF4?is=VW7uWAS3_ig2E7x-
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>>736621550
artfags at bungie really see this and say wow that looks great
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>>736619113
Krazy Ken Kutaragi nearly killed Sony. So they gave it to Mark "I made Marble Madness in the 1980's" Cerny.

X-box promptly killed itself, which cemented Cerny even though he didn't do anything beyond make sure Sony didn't die with the next console (which didn't happen thanks to X-box killing itself).

So since Cerny is in America, they moved HQ to America.
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>>736622093
You think the fucking journalists at IGN or gamestop did this for their video?
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>>736622279
>dude what if it was muh epic slop nostalgia franchise!!!!!!
Fuck off
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>>736611563
The game's artstyle is so retarded looking that for a second i thought that was an in-game power and not cheats
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the only thing i extract is semen.
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>>736622260
>autistic babbling from an attention whore
checks out
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>>736615441
That's just called a randomizer mode retard
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>>736622314
Hey, how's it going travis. Now you, I think you might be the exception. I can see you puting in enough hours getting sherpaed through enough to see cryo. But you also know how the rest of the industry works, and how little fucking time people get to do reviews.
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>>736622279
All those asym games not dead by daylight fail
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>>736621830
Yes
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>>736614114
>>736614238
Brutal
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>>736622359
AVP has a number of successful games from different companies, and I will not take slander about my waifu lightly.
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>>736611563
>>736622360
Kek. this
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>>736622565
Shame you can't play either of the side sroller chatacter in the 3d games
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cope thread
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>>736622478
The original fps AVP games did fine enough

>>736622585
>>736622360
Well, they have an in game power that does that, so it's very understandable..
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Marathon is Highguard if it was put on corporate life support.
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>>736622654
Anon what shooter do you recommend to play because I found Tarkov and Arc Raiders boring and Dark and Darker is ded
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>>736622650
That wasn't an asym game. Are you retarded? It also had a full campaign
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>>736622694
>Arc Raiders boring
don't say that in this thread, anon. you'll set them off
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>>736622649
Shouldn't your hours be going up?
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>>736622694
The Darkness 2
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>>736622762
they are, retard
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>>736622694
there's always Forever Winter, looks just as cool and pretty as Marathon.

Ah, who am i kidding, the gameplay is pretty meh, just like Marathon.
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>>736622737
Lets slow it down to not break your brain. Asymmetry is an adjective. Not just a genre.
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>>736623121
>Asymmetry is an adjective
It's a noun you fucking nigger
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>>736611313
>>736611563
I give it 6 months before Bungie gets the axe from Sony
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>>736613236
Bungie turned their backs on destiny which was their magnum opus, what do people expect will happen with marathon which is on external life support on its first month?
My friend convinced me to get d2 and I was in awe of the level design, enemies, weapons and armors. Epic campaign against epic evil, etc. Marathon has got exactly fuck all of that. Lego brick guns and Jackson pollock color theme.
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>>736622694
Hunt. Grey Zone, maybe. Or just wait until Hunger, it looks cool as fuck.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1752080/HUNGER/
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I don't like how so many enemies in Marathon and by extension Arc Raiders are robots.
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>>736623121
It is a genre for games like dead by daylight. AVP is not asymmetrical you are playing with different loadouts. When I play black ops and choose the guy with a grapple and shotgun or the guy that has a jumping super and an assault rifle these are loadouts not asymmetry.
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>>736623270
Six months seems extremely long, it keeps tanking players all the way down to the bot pool. There were only 7 real players playing early this morning and 8000 bots.
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>>736623297
It's work safe for germany. The characters are all 3d printed.
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>>736623297
They're not robots
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I simply do not enjoy playing with scum like (you), so have fun sitting in a queue and jerking off to e-celebs
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>>736620917
Right, that's why the game has less than 10k people playing it.
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https://flopathon.cc/game/marathon got updated with an EKG-style pulse, lol
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>>736623340
Ah yes, robots, definitely not anything else but robots
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>>736611313
If Marathon fails is is just another example of gaming journos not mattering to gamers and they can't have that. It is also why they want Crimson Desert to fail.
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what even is the endgame gameplay loop for extraction shooters?

admiring your hoard of loot?
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>>736623423
It's at 17k right now chud. You lost
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>>736620917
Some journo was on /v/ drunk as hell screaming about how they all pushed it on purpose to teach us a lesson
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>>736614238
man, time flies
it feels just like yesterday that there were threads saying this game was going to go past 100k players
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>>736623436
>DIE ANTWORD

what?
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>>736623445
>endgame
No such thing since all loot gets deleted every 3 months
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>>736623507
kek, shills and troons fail again
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>>736622361
Fag
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>>736623512
South African band, that one girl robot is clearly based on the woman
>how the fuck am I supposed to know two South African singers?
They're known for making a movie with Blomkamp called Chappie
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>>736615841
Didn’t Bungie buy itself from Microsoft and Activision.
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>>736623516
>deleted after 3 months

well that's fucking lame, are there any awards for gathering a certain number of loot within 3 months?
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>>736623436
Don't you see the possibliities here? Rather than importing GNs from outer space, we can now manufacture them as needed.

>>736623483
He's probably in the thread now. Or one of his buddies.

>>736623512
South African trailer trash rap band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM

>>736623445
Having so much loot that you dont' give a fuck about looting, and spend loot just trying to keep other people from enjoying themselves.

Parts of marathon are at this now with cryo runs where rape gangs collect all the keys and make sure noone else extracts.
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>>736623297
I like robot enemies. Actually I like non humanoid reactive enemies. I like it when in monster hunter damaging a certain part makes the monsters behavior or hitbox change, same with arc raiders where targeting a tanks legs where it cant spin so you can put a explosive on its back.
Meanwhile humanoid enemies are always
>shoot in the head
>ez win
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>>736623671
Bungie was acquired by MS, then Bungie made some kind of deal to make a few Halo games, after which MS would let them go and become independent.

Then, Bungie entered into some kind of close agreement with Activision where Activision would publish Destiny 1 and 2, but then the deal ended or didn't get renewed or something and both parties separated. I don't think Activision ever bought Bungie.

Then yeah, they sold their bussy to Sony 100%.
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>>736623483

There's no crappy game that's wildly successful. That doesn't exist, it's not a thing that happens. Millions of people aren't gonna pay seventy dollars to eat shit for the lulz. You might not like a successful game, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It just means it's not for you.
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>>736623850
>t. normalnigger
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>>736623445
Usually stunts, pvp, or you just consider yourself done with the game. Except for marathon which force deletes everything you got every 3 months.
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>>736623507
Never even broke 90k
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This game is so undesirable I haven't been able to get anyone to buy a Steam alt account for $20 for weeks now.
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>>736623094
That's abandonware practically
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>>736623483
Can you explain to me where exactly in this diarrhea collage it connects that poster to that guy?
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>>736624228
Schizo retards on /v/
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>>736623850
Wdym, this board loves shit gachas and mobas
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extraction shooters are not as content rich or diverse as MMOs/looter shooters and not as competitive as actual PVP games.

If you want content you'd play Division, Helldivers, or even Payday.
If you want competition you'd play any PVP shooters like CS or even BRs like Fortnite.

Extraction shooters sit in the awkward middle of not having enough depth or breadth in PVE content and having mediocre PVP content.
I've yet to see a PVP or PVE extraction shooters that successfully has a great deep gameplay loop that is highly replayable.
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>>736624260
I remember I larped as a Chinese spy and an autist made a schizo collage like that of my posts
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>>736624314
I play them because it's the only sense of tension I get out of most games these days
PvE is too boring for me outside of older shooters
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>>736623445
hoping and waiting for drips of more bungie slop
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>>736612858
It isn't a worse game. The actual game side is pretty good even. But it's an awful fucking product. There's no draw to it at all and the devs seem to actively hate gamers with the barriers put in place of you actually getting to play
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>>736612670
There isn't a lot of content I guess
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>>736624314
>PVP extraction shooter

that just sounds like a multi-round battle royale where you have to loot and survive on the island before extracting a new island repeating that process multiple times to decide who wins.
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>>736623319
You're close enough to figure it out. Like Natural Selection, the factions are asymetric, and aren't even close to having 1 to 1 comparables. On Blops, your loadout can be on any team.

Here, asymetrical loadouts, possibly team numbers, and definitely asymmetrical objectives.

>>736624260
>>736624228
There's other threads if you actually give a fuck. I suggest not giving one.

>>736624612
Being repulsive even to people who rated the game well counts as awful to me.
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>>736616996
>ODST didn't have multiplayer
Yes it did.
It even added the whole new mode of firefight.
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Why would I play this when I can play Destiny and have actual fun?
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so bungies plan for the next few months is to release the same map, but at night, and then eventually wipe everyones loot...?
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>>736624996
Destiny is boring borderlands
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>>736624997
The worst map everyone hates too
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>>736624950
>asymetric
No they are not. They are the same exact characters with different loadouts and GUIs.
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>>736624997
I remember when Crowfall had the bright idea of wiping the world every 3 months.

didn't end well for them.
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>>736624950
>There's other threads if you actually give a fuck. I suggest not giving one.
Cool so that collage that was supposed to show how a poster was a journalist did not actually do it and it was schizo bogeyman shit
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>>736624997
That's what's on the published roadmap, but I would expect more panicked stuff like duos and other shit they're calling 'experiments' now, kinda like how Highguard added 5v5 as a hail mary.

At the current rate of players leaving, the matchmaking system could be seeing 5 or 10m waits by the time the first reset hits, and that will kill the game stone dead.
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>>736625092
What's wrong with wipes
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>>736624997
No, the wipe happens before the night map.
>coast for another 1.5-2 months on what's already in the game, maybe add a long-term duo mode
>wipe everyones stashes
>add a new class, gun and the night map (which will probably replace the day version rather than complement it so the number of maps will stay the same)
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>>736625128
My matchmaking takes like a minute in fills and I'm level 30 so idk what you're talking about
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>>736625151
so basically for the next two months they have absolutely nothing
ho boy
this further solidifies my schizo theory that both bungie and sony knew this was going to fail and decided to just release it instead of putting any more work into it
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>>736625109
LOL. No. Just fuck off with that. You're better off being ignorant than going full retard.
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>>736625272
Your schizo theory fails since they delayed it for months
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>>736625327
Triggered?
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Ps plus monthly game by September then free 2 play early 2027
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>>736611046
>multiplayer gay shit
No thanks
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>>736625327
Ignorant of what? That collage that is supposed to prove a journalist posted here that in fact doesn't do that by your own omission?
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>>736625187
Matchmaking in North America (where the majority of players are) isn't bad but is getting a little worse each week.

Matchmaking outside of NA is so bad Bungie had to patch it because people in Europe (especially England and Italy) were seeing really long queues, and from what other anons have said, people in Oceania/East Asia have 3-5m queues and you're matched with anyone in the region, so cooperation is impossible since everyone speaks different languages.
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>>736625034
are you one of those retards running around the patrol zones?
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>>736625272
I think Sony probably knew it would fail, and probably a few people in Bungie did too, but got shouted down because of toxic positivity.

THe more schizo theory is whether Sony wants it to fail because of some contract jewry that lets them punish or close Bungie without paying fees or something.
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I don’t think marathon is even bungies big game. It’s project gummy bears that’s been in development for a while.
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>>736625523
>gummy bears
They left Bungie and are their own studio in Sony, IIRC. The only Bungie games are Destiny 2 and Marathon
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>>736625523
people describe that game as smash brothers as a MOBA and there is no way that will be good. That was High Guard's way of thinking mashing multiple game types together
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>>736611563
"It's just a gayme"-fags seethe when a cheater shows up LMAO>
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>>736625676
That’s true but the project was still incubated at bungie
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>>736614973
YOU HAVE TO BUY THE GAME AND PLAY IT FOR AT LEAST TWO HOURS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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i'm literally playing it right now and having a BLAST
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>>736626064
Yeah, I know. I mean it's not a Bungie project any more and isn't going to have a Bungie logo on it or anything.

>>736626112
..but I didn't do anything??
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>>736625784
It could definitely work but only time will tell
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>>736626204
No it can't. Almost every knockoff MOBA and Smash clones fails so surely combining the two will work cause......reasons
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>>736624950
>Being repulsive even to people who rated the game well counts as awful to me.
This is the part of the game that no one discusses because the war is haters who haven't bought the game vs shills who also haven't bought the game. I'm unironically "having a blast" when I'm playing but the game hates being played. UI sucks, setting up a game takes time, getting into one takes time, it takes dozens of hours to unlock your shit and unlocks aren't really gained organically and we'll have to repeat it every season.

To explain since no one is actually playing, you unlock permanent bonuses through upgrading passives with the factions you grind. Materials are found in specific locations, so you're liable to get a ton of some and none of others depending on RNG if neither your quests nor spawn puts you near them. To the game's credit it has tools to make gathering them much easier but grinding them largely entails you not engaging with the core game loop and instead loading in as a scavenger class called the rook to farm and then extract while avoiding players and enemies.

The actual gameplay is very very fun and super unrewarding but if you want to experience everything you have to grind even if you're quite consistent at winning. There are so many aspects of the game that seem to hate you but the actual game is legitimately very fun when you're allowed to participate in it.
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>>736611313
Gamestudios today are filled with nepohires, every gamedev out there has a journo friend who'll write some good shit on his website and in return they got early access/clickbait
Conflict of interest doesn't exist anymore
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>>736626963
Access journalism has been a thing since forever, vidya didn't invent it.
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I like how there are decades old MMOs still running with tiny playerbases but faggot jew shooters in current year need to do call of duty numbers or be instantly shut down.
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>>736625142
People don't want to lose their progress. It kind of works for Path of Exile because each new league brings major balance changes and a new mechanic. Plus, you can stay in Standard league if you wish.

In general, it's a terrible idea. That wasn't really an intended feature for Tarkov, and I'm pretty sure that stopped doing wipes too.
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>>736625142
I don't hate wipes on principle or anything but this game isn't suited for it. Extraction shooters peak at the start of a season and then fall off. Marathon has an extensive meta progression system that's time consuming and anyone who doesn't keep up with it is at a significant disadvantage during a season. But thing is, it's not just power locked behind it but also a lot of fun like being able to pick the weapon you want or use your abilities more. Wipes in this case might not actually make it easier to get new players in which is the purpose of them in theory, but might actually make the difference between sweats who can level up quick and newcomers getting acquainted a lot more noticeable.
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>>736627159
Go read that huge Epyllion 'state of gaming' report. Most people have 3 to 5 games they play religiously, and those games are 5+ years old. Normalfags buy MAYBE one new game a year and most don't stick with it.
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>>736626953
>UI sucks
Wrong
>setting up a game takes time
Wrong
>getting into one takes time
Wrong
> it takes dozens of hours to unlock your shit
Wrong
>and unlocks aren't really gained organically
Wrong
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>>736627370
Posters like this do infinitely more damage to games than the actual haters
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>>736627370
is his controlled plugged through satellite connection or what is the deal here
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>>736625034
Both are shit.
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>>736626112
and Ill do it again too
4 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES FEAR THE GREEN LINE
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>>736620705
It does
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>>736627370
lel that aiming
is this the kind of person who is calling the game hardcore
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>>736611046
>comeback
but [check] -18,780 players right now - is great for a game like this?
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Instead of us getting a Killzone collection on PC we get this shit.
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>>736627443
There's no damage to be done here
People who post either play the game or will never do.
Marathon is anti-/v/ on the virtue of requiring the audience to read and use their brain, which makes it automatically an hard filter for anyone here.
We are just shitposting
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>>736627560
Marathon is anti-/v/ because:
>it's an unnecessary raping of the corpse of an old franchise
>it was a game type nobody wanted or asked for
>it was astroturfed here by paid shills and elsewhere by the journo clique
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>>736611563
Buy an ad
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>>736615430
>slow motion
The game isn't even 1 month old yet (that is tomorrow). Nothing about this decline is slow.
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>>736627656
I asked for it
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>>736614114
It all honesty there needs to be monthly resets. There are people who literally "beat the game" already and are just waiting to murder noobs. Not sure how they'll get more new players over the next TWO MONTHS
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>>736614994
March 29th was the last time the player count was above 40,000.
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>>736627732
Grab that guy and, uh..

..throw him out of the airlock!
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>>736627656
>>it's an unnecessary raping of the corpse of an old franchise
The game has a lot of respect for the art style and lore of the original games, it clearly made by bigger fans than classic Marathon than you larpers
>>it was a game type nobody wanted or asked for
No it's a game you don't want because you want safe and samey slop
>>it was astroturfed here by paid shills and elsewhere by the journo clique
You are mentally ill, and probably poor too
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>>736627560
Still trying to be the underdog while you slurp up a game made by trannies and suits?
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>>736628152
The biggest tragedy of nuMarathon is if it was a PVE focused game, not even strictly singleplayer campaign only, it would've been fine and /v/ would've laughed but still played it. But extractionslop with forced 3v3s? A death sentence.

>there were no paid shills
Sorry you've only been here a week, I guess. We even had that retard Travis in a few threads last night where he got caught angry drunkposting again, lmao.
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>>736624996
>Borderlands without humor (until D2) and cel shading
Wow this gameplay webm of someone running was truly amazing
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>>736614994
The only thing steady about the player count is how steadily its dropping
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>>736628307
>The biggest tragedy of nuMarathon is if it was a PVE focused game, not even strictly singleplayer campaign only, it would've been fine and /v/ would've laughed but still played
Why are you lying?
>But extractionslop with forced 3v3s? A death sentence.
Certainly bound to filter retards like you
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>>736628494
Why did Bungie go from halokino to the most generic corporate shit imaginable
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ITT: casualjeet seethe
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>>736627753
there's no good solution other than providing a totally new experience. the current game design is too annoying regardless of resets
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>>736628453
Damn that's crazy never thought of it like that
>Loses another 15% of players overnight
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>halokino
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>>736628453
Who's lying? One of the biggest complaints I've seen on /v/ since nuMarathon got announced was 'I'd give it a try if it had PVE/singleplayer.' Nobody wanted another live service PVP game, especially not a 3v3 one. (Even one of the lead Highguard devs said going 3v3 was a major reason why nobody played their game.)

>you got filtered
Nobody wants this kind of game. It's a niche genre for a fucking reason, you moron. Marathon's player count has gone down by almost 80 percent since it launched. I guess it filtered all of those people too? Brilliant business plan.
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>>736628639
>>halokino
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>>736628569
Two reasons:
>all the good Halo devs left
>the studio got bloated and pozzed

When you've got 1000 employees, you need to do the safest, blandest, most mass market things ever to get as much money as possible.
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>>736628453
Bungie: All these fuckin casuals got filtered bro
Sony: Say less senpai I still love you *slits throat*
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is there a fantasy themed extraction slop?
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>>736627560
>melee hitreg lag still has issues around corners
Man it really is destiny 2 pvp
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>>736628794
The closest so far was probably Highguard, but it was still half fantasy because they had guns and shit.

Maybe whatever the Elden Ring spinoff game is? (Nightreign? idk much about it)
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>>736627656
>Imfuckingplying nu-/v/ ever gave a fuck about Marathon until the Mandalore videos
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>>736624996
Why would you play Destiny when Warframe is better in every way?
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[Heartbreaking News] Not even 15% of the online discord users are playing the game
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>>736628794
Dark and Darker
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>>736628930
I'm not saying /v/ (or anyone) knew or cared about the original Marathon franchise. I meant that it wasn't necessary to dig up that corpse and ruin it like this when they could've just made a new IP to go along with the bizarre art style they picked (that has nothing at all in common with the old games anyway)
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>>736628930
I can't really relate to goycattle who can't finger antarctica on a map, but I did know bungie made some Mac game before Halo, yes.
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>>736629141
I guess Jason Jones just really wanted to come back to it.
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>>736629461
Every time he gets brought up, some anon mentions how Jones is just on permanent vacation or sabbatical or some shit and isn't really doing anything except collecting a paycheck for not being there. Most of those original Bungie guys probably got fat paychecks from when Sony bought them and just said 'fuck it' and retired. I'd do the same in their position
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>>736628657
>One of the biggest complaints I've seen on /v/ since nuMarathon got announced was 'I'd give it a try if it had PVE/singleplayer.'
No you wouldn't. Single player FPS games keep flopping left and right. Even Doom fell flat on its face hard. What's supposed to be successful single player fps? The genre is pretty much solved and there's only rpom for minor low budget entries that pander to nostalgia and target specific subsets of players. And even New Blood and 3D Realms are doing like shit
>Nobody wanted another live service PVP game
You keep talking like you are some spokeperson of gamers. Who the fuck elected you. The fact that you are fucking obsessed about one game not pandering specifically to you shows how annoying and whiny you bitched are. If you supported single player fps about half as much as you were invested on shitting your pants here they wouldn't be long dead. I played Spies vs Mercs and then Spies vs Mercs Blacklist so much in the end it was me and 2 dozen other EU guys and we knew each other by name tag. I don't give a fuck about games not pandering to everyone, I don't need it. Even assuming Marathon will never grow back a playercount that makes it worth supporting in the long term I would still be happy for the 300 hours I have got. The only one who wants to sloppify the industry with homogenized output for the demands of the lowest common denominator is (You), that's because (You) are the lowest common denominator.
>>736629141
>I meant that it wasn't necessary to dig up that corpse and ruin it like this
Marathon doesn't ruin anything. It actually expands a lot more the universe in a way it couldn't be possible in the Battledroid games. The game itself has a very strong narrative, which is depicted also mostly through the same terminal entries of the original games. You wouldn't know because you don't gove a shit about either of those games.
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>>736628152
>The game has a lot of respect for the art style
Not at all.
>No it's a game you don't want because you want safe and samey slop
You're right, making it an extraction shooter wasn't "safe". It was straight up retarded. It's made worse by the fact that it has no single player campaign which Bungie has been historically good at.
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>>736629615
>*Battleroid
autocorrected from Battleroid
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>>736629747
>It's made worse by the fact that it has no single player campaign which Bungie has been historically good at.
Halo games campaigns are boring as shit
Reach sucks
2 and its gondola ride galore sucks
1 is repetitive as fuck and has awful driving section
3 is the only decent one
These games live and die by multiplayer lol
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>>736629832
>im a faggot nigger please rape my face
Very cool
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>>736629615
Even if it was PVE co op multiplayer it would've done infinitely better than PVP only, as Arc Raiders has conclusively demonstrated. Hell, even Hunt is doing better than nuMarathon now. It's clear there's a consumer demand for PVE FPS, whether it's singleplayer campaign or a MMO-type FPSRPG.

>Who the fuck elected you
Nobody, but there's also no denying the obvious commercial failure and consumer disinterest in Marathon unless you just try to pretend all of the objective information around it doesn't exist.

>Marathon doesn't ruin anything
It brought the IP back from the grave only to see it killed dead again. nuMarathon is a flop game and is losing 2-3k PC players every day. Arguably, the best thing it did was remind people the OG games are free on Steam and to try them if they want to see the original versions with the better lore.

>webm
Oh, DVR shill, it's you. You seem more tense today than usual. Did Marathon going beneath 10k nightly start to upset you?
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>>736629832
>only shitposters with the most baffling retarded arguments defend this game otherwise there isn't much discussion to be had
Grim.
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>>736629615
>Even Doom fell flat on its face hard.
What?
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this game is good because it exposed that shill faggot journalist travis north
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>>736630043
didn't do shit schizo
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>>736629993
It does kind of make me miss the paid shills, because even those losers would have melties now and again.

>>736630009
DVRshill is referring to Doom the Dark Ages' failure, I guess. It was also a bland, uninteresting game that wasn't a good use of the Doom IP. It has a few things in common with nuMarathon in that respect, actually
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>>736628541
AoE2 boomers won...
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>>736629931
>arcshill
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>>736629615
>Single player FPS games keep flopping left and right.
Like what?
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>>736611046
replace the hideous artstyle with something pleasing. make it f2p.
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>>736630163
they can't keep getting away with this!
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>marathon seethers are poverty thirdies and tendies begging for f2p
You can't make this up!
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>>736629615
>No you wouldn't. Single player FPS games keep flopping left and right. Even Doom fell flat on its face hard.
Lmao, Doom is possibly the worst example you could have given. Doom 1 and 2 are still getting sales over 30 years later. Doom: The Dark Ages will still be bringing in money a decade from now. Marathon will not be getting sales even a year from now after Sony pulls the plug.
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>>736630438
F2P wouldn't do shit except make cheating an unfixable problem. They already did F2P with the server slam weekend and most people tried it, said 'this sucks,' then left and never came back.
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are extraction shooters by nature sandboxish/dynamic?

are there any instances/dungeons?
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>>736611313
Bungie money. That's why IGN gave it a 9 a month after its release, and gave objectively better games a 6 or 7.
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>>736630043
Who
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>>736630917
Name them
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>>736630817
Cryo is a dungeon
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>>736611313
"It's just slop" is the ultimate midwit take. You can hate the genre, but Bungie is literally the only dev in the industry that hasn't missed on core gunplay loops in 20 years.

Most extraction shooters feel like janky Eurojunk or Unity assets. If Marathon brings Destiny-tier movement and gunplay to a high-stakes sandbox, it clears the entire genre effortlessly. Stay mad that a game actually looks like it has an art budget instead of being another brown military sim.
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>>736630917
Bungie doesn't have money to give. It's probably about not wanting to piss off Sony, who's the only real AAA company that gives a fuck about the press anymore. (Xbox is dead and Ninty doesn't court the press or care about them.) Shitting on Marathon would make Sony mad, which means no press access for crap like Wolverine, the next Horizon, or whatever other stuff Sony's studios are making right now

>>736631009
IGN 'journalist' who glazed Marathon while shitting on CD. Allegedly he also posts in these Marathon threads to defend the game, gets caught because he sloppily types shit like 'I never said that' or 'we (journalists) don't get bribes', then deletes his posts. An embarrassing creature all around
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>>736630917
pretty much this
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>>736631079
>he posts he because I made a schizo collage that says he posts here that actually doesn't show that
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>>736631074
Their gunplay only "feels good" because the game aims for you.
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>>736631135
Yeah. Aims for me to have a good time
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>>736611046
>trying to gaslight people into thinking this is a success and Crimson Desert is a failure

the usual suspects are at it again
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One of the worst games of a generation
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>>736631132
there were two threads that exposed him but you’re too lazy to look into the archives so just stfu and clown on him like the rest of us
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>>736631206
link to the threads and quote what exactly exposes him schizo
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>>736631167
oy vey
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>>736631206
I can also roleplay with gooks
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That mess was a walking corpse the second the characters were shown, its like they inherited concords 'art' team or some shit
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this makes them mad
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When can we expect Respawn to make an extraction shooter based off of Apex Legends?
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>>736631237
NTA, but I was in at least one of those threads and this is what happened:
>some anon starts posting brainlet takes defending Marathon and IGN's review, while also taking time to shit on CD
>other anons realize that anon's typing style and word choices are very similar to what Travis uses in his tweets and reviews, so they call him on it
>Travis-anon starts getting defensive, which causes more anons to pile on
>Travis-anon fucks up and types something that makes it seem like it's really him (saying 'I' or 'we'), then realizes his mistake, deletes the post, and reposts the same thing with a few word changes
>other anons caught the deleted post and calls Travis-anon
>Travis-anon has a melty, sperg posts a bit, then leaves
That's what was in the collage anon posted earlier, and I personally saw one of the the times it happened live.
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>>736631431
That was apparently what Highguard was supposed to be, since most of those devs were ex-Respawn.

>>736631420
I think Bungie still hasn't posted any numbers, right? Not players, not 'times exfiltrated', not anything?
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>>736614301
CS2 couldn't do it because of the demo recording/replay feature which came from Quake 1
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>>736631474
>other anons realize that anon's typing style and word choices are very similar to what Travis uses in his tweets
I will bet a million dollars this is complete schizo shit. Link the posts.
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>>736631516
not a thing
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>>736629615
>No you wouldn't. Single player FPS games keep flopping left and right. Even Doom fell flat on its face hard.

Bro as much as I like them people are just a little sick of the cheap ass boomer shooters pissed out by every college drop out and his druggy gf (male) . We want AA and AAA FPS games. Deep looter shooter, open world, rich endgames and multiple ending kind of shit. A ARPG that's not compromised with battle passes and multiplayer bullshit. I want a fps with the same love behind it as Skyrim. I want to see Second Son with a 100 Million dollar budget. Nah best I can do is another Doom this time you get a shield. No fuck you, why does every doom game have a gimmick stuck up its ass besides the first one from the Obama era? Why do these games fail because they build them out of fucking popsicle sticks and call it "authentic".
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there's just no point to the game, and it is quite a time investment for what is ultimately a by-the-numbers shooter. as you'd expect, there's barely anything inherently fun or interesting about the gameplay, and the metagame system is incredibly contrived and forces you to waste tons of time navigating the labyrinthine menus
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>>736631649
I don't have the threads handy, but the other anon might post the archive links. The collage image was from a thread last night.

>it's probably schizo shit
There were definitely a few posts that were clearly anons pretending to be Travis just to shitpost, but a lot of the others felt way too earnest for normal shitposting.

>>736631718
>not a thing
Major flop confirmed, then. Guess they learned a few lessons from Ubisoft about how you shouldn't talk about numbers if it's clear your numbers aren't improving.
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>>736613039
Its actually simple

What extraction shooters have shown is that people want the thrill of high stakes encounters but dont necessarily want those encounters to be purely competitive PvP
If anything extraction shooters have evolved (or regress to their base foundations) back into PvE. Even fucking Tarkov has more PvE players now

So at the end of the day DayZ won
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>>736631891

So players just want a DayZ 2?
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>>736631876
>collage that shows someone was a journalist
>doesn't show it
>"akshually go to the archive"
>ok link it
>"no"
This really is nothing but schizo shit
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>>736627460
grifters don't play video games

i'm not trying to defend bungie here but seriously he moves the camera around like a geriatric, bungie games are riddled with aim assist so there's zero excuse. it's okay to laugh at GaaSlop fail but make sure you keep playing old games in the meantime or else you'll end up like that retard
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>>736631891
dayz is an autism simulator tho
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>>736612668
>woke as an issue
BG3 being such a hit permanently disproves this theory
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>checked the archives
so it’s either some insanely autistic schizo who copied travis’s writing style and has the same talking points posting the same shit he says (with slurs because 4chan) for weeks or its the guy himself. the funniest bit was him calling himself a legendary reviewer though.
the writing style and the defensiveness over journalists and travis in particular makes me pretty sure its him but idk
you can start here and scroll down, but the context is that this guy has been talking shit about CD while glazing marathon for weeks fyi
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736550860/#q736586959
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>>736623436
>nigger nosed robot
Isn't the point of robots or cybernetic bodies that you can make them look like whatever you want? So you can actually make them look, you know... visually appealing?
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>>736632112
You wasted your time. There’s no point, he won’t accept it because you never back down from a position on 4chan. He will continue to not read shit and say that it’s all schizo shit. Just watch.
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>>736623436
Destroyer is not a woman, put the crack pipe down
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>>736632102
BG3 wasn't woke
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>>736632102
>BG3 is woke!
This brainlet meme really needs to die. BG3 isn't woke any more than a game like GTASA was.
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>>736632112
lmao it was actually him that’s just too funny
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>>736632112
ok I will take a look

>>736632190
>you must blindly accept any argument and can't disagree which by the way I myself am literally doing and doing what I am critical of
kek
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>>736632183
It seems clear that someone told the Marathon team 'cool it with the woke shit' and they said 'Fine, but we're still putting some in', and that's how you end up with George Droyd as the first character in the class select page.
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>>736632183
are you saying black people are ugly?
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>>736632102
Please for the love of Christ get new material I'm begging you please
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>>736632241
>>736632278
I wish there was an alternate universe where BG3 flopped so i could see all the /v/ posts and see whether or not anons would label BG3 as woke.
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>>736625906
>show up to a real life game of backyard baseball
>take out block and demand points
>be surprised people stop acting like it's just a game
retarded cheating faggot
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>>736632361
but the bear sex make me pp feel funny
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>>736632112
Kek he actually got nervous with the dogpile and started deleting shit. And then claimed that he deleted it because it had a typo. Then deleted that too. Fucking kek
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>>736632112
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736550860/#q736586959
ok I read through it. This is textbook one autist being mad at another autist and starts larping as him and sanefagging replies to himself. What should have tipped you off to that when some literally who IGN journalist was randomly name dropped in the thread which means a single schizo had issues with that journalist so yea typical schizo shit.
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>>736625408
No admission. If you're dumb enough to give a fuck, go look up the other threads, otherwise fuck off.

>>736625352
Same goes to you too.


>>736632403
Clearly, you'd have a split like whether tranny porn counts as woke. Regardless, people individually decide whether to buy or not on their own criteria.
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>>736632526
My headcanon is that he gets drunk on wine and posts on /v/ and has poor impulse control, leading to the sperg outs.

>>736632551
The post with the stupid 'the AMAZING journalist, Travis' was clearly some anon shitposting for fun.
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>>736632551
so there’s obviously some larping and samefagging but when the twitter screencaps matched exactly with the 4chan shitposting its too sus
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>>736611046
>Well? What can they do?
To get out of a death spiral? There's a reason they're called death spirals.
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>>736632551
You can't delete your own post that quickly
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>>736632112
The deleted posts are what gets me
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>>736631763
>Deep looter shooter, open world, rich endgame
No one liked the new borderlands
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>>736632838
Nobody likes borderldands games at all until they get all the DLC for it then its the underrated best game of the series frfr no cap this time.
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>>736632806
It's probably our resident gookjanny
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>>736632806
>rando journalist
>same guy reviewed both games which released last month
>lots of shitposting around both games
>guy keeps fighting randoms on his twitter
>same pattern of posting on 4chan
>it’s noticed because there’s like literally 3 people who shill for marathon here
>gets caught, panics, deletes everything
>everyone laughs at the clown
meanwhile you:
>noooooooo it’s some schizo
>I won’t look at the archives you made it up
>gets linked to one thread
>yeah it’s schizo and same fagging and larping (didn’t even check the post times)
kill yourself
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Sorry Bungie, Marathon gives gamers the ick!
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>>736611046
The push for this slop to remain on life support just means that thousands of industry jobs are tied to it.
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>>736632820
he gets way too defensive over journalists to not be one, over this and the other screencaps ive seen
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>>736633091
I wonder how much of it is good old fashioned arrogance and pride in Sony. The game is financially dead, that much is clear, but maybe shutting it down would be too embarrassing for some exec somewhere, so that person is keeping it on life support.
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>>736633040
Meds
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>>736633040
mad gookjanny
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>>736615441
You mean the genre that people memed on like 8 years ago for being overdone slop in the indie scene and now AAA is just catching up?
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>>736632102
>Clinging into the one single straw you have left
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>>736615841
The only way it could have been funnier is if Microsoft bought Activison-Blizz before Activision sold Bungie. Microsoft knows Bungie is trash, which is why they let them go in the first place but Snoy had no idea so they probably would have paid twice as much to buy them from MS.
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>>736633001
It's just schizi shit

>>736633040
See! Here is the shizo. Some random IGN journalist mad him so mad that he larped that the journalist was here posting and he still brings it up today because that random journalist made him mad for just saying this shit game was good posting a collage that doesn't even prove it was the same guy.

Do it schizo. You know you want to. The next logical step is to accuse me of being him. You know it. Do it schizo.
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>>736620252
medication against balding and even plastic surgeries, if done right, have positive effects on your life and are not a cope.
Why be the bald guy when you can prevent it?
Fuck going bald without at least trying to do something against it.

Nobody cares if you decided to "age gracefully". That is a cope. Nobody except you will see it that way. You're just the bald guy.
Be bald, but don't make it seem like a virtuous thing when it's not.
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>>736633485
still not playing marathon
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>>736633676
and you shouldn't!
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>>736616378
They'll probably spin off Halo Studios to become a mobile game dev that makes low budget phone games exclusively in Spanish. The rest of the Halo IP will be used for movie cameos.
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>>736633564
Aging gracefully and accepting the aging process instead of trying to fight it was my point. Meds, surgeries, and whatever else is the same kind of pathetic as the spray on hair from the 1980s. And those remedies never fool anyone anyway, it's just a question of how polite they'll be about it.
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>>736633725
not playing crimsaar desert either
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doing petty shit like censoring arc raiders in chat makes me feel zero sympathy for these devs
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>not even breaking the 20k peak during America hours
Jesus that even Bungies core audience is checking out must hurt
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Marathon isn’t shilled at all compared to Crimson Desert. If anything it has anti-shills. Bungie didn’t pay for shit while Pearl Abyss paid out the ass.
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>>736633465
Sony buying Bungie and getting dogshit is the beautiful final chapter in the book of them trying to get their own Halo Killer since 2005
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>>736633875
You have 'evidence' of your claim?
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>>736633875
>Marathon isn’t shilled at all compared to Crimson Desert
The game every journalist banded together to give low scores and now they are backpedaling because they got caught? That game?
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>>736633843
The NA peak won't be for another five or six hours.

>>736633875
>It's CD with the shills! Not Marathon!
A bald faced lie if ever there was one. Marathon stealth marketers infested the board so badly during the playtest and launch week that the jannies had to delete threads left and right because they were making so many. CD is just an organic success that makes westoid journos seethe because they didn't like it.
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>>736633918
I’m confused, your claim is that he is the one larping as the journalist and samefagging. So why would he accuse you of being him? Or are you saying he is so far into the schizo delusion that he’s convinced himself that his larping made him think that the journalist actually showed up?
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>Marathon isn’t shilled at all compared to Crimson Desert. If anything it has anti-shills. Bungie didn’t pay for shit while Pearl Abyss paid out the ass.
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>>736634132
>I’m confused, your claim is that he is the one larping as the journalist and samefagging. So why would he accuse you of being him?
On 4chan when someone demonizes someone, in this case this journalist, if someone disagrees with you about them the counter play is to accuse you of being them.
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>>736634132
It's a classic schizo tactic
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>>736633959
I have eyes. Where are the Marathon shill threads? All I see are CD threads and them trying to make a general on /v/ with the comfy thread thing.
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>>736634246
>those article titles
What passive aggressive little cunts. I'd prefer to believe it's just clickbait (shitting on a popular game to drive traffic), but I can imagine these losers seething as they see CD blowing up despite them not wanting it to.

>>736634313
Jannies seem to delete most of the Marathon threads and only let one or two live in the catalog at once. There was also a thread for Marathon in /vg/ but it died because nobody was interested, lol
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>>736634246
first article journalist seems hot, pics? and last journalist is right, if damiane was the mc I would’ve played more
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>>736634392
>>>/vg/562918484
???
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>>736633764

The better and younger you look, the better people will treat and think of you. That's not some esoteric knowledge.
So it's understandable that people are obsessed with it.
If it's worth the hassle, everyone has to decide for themselves.

>And those remedies never fool anyone anyway

If that is the case, you just failed in what you were trying to do.
It is absolutely possible to look all natural. That is the point. To make your genetics look better than they actually are, which looks are an indicator for.
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who the fuck cares why he’s bald stfu retards
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>>736634575
I care. I'm a carer
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You know all the "heh just age gracefully and accept it" losers are obese people who have obese wives if they are even with anyone
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>>736634468
>is absolutely possible to look all natural
gook cope
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>>736634737
I obviously don't mean the obvious fake googly eyes korean type of surgery, lil nig
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>>736611046
if you want to save marathon just remove free kits

im fucking tired of loading into outpost with full purple shit and matched with 2 shieldless retards that die to bots looking at them
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>>736625034
Destiny always had some great moments. It was just that Bungie completely mishandled it nonstop.
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>>736611563
>cheesy
can you stop shilling this awful reseller and just link directly to the original creator
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>>736634454
It comes and goes, I guess.

>>736634468
>the better and younger you look, the better you get treated
Not true. So long as you look well groomed and aren't medically messed up (like being so old you look like the crypt keeper), people will judge you based on your overall appearance. (Like a younger guy who looks unkempt will be viewed less favorably than an older guy in a tailored suit.)

>it's absolutely possible to look all natural
Anon, I'm really sorry to tell you this, but this is a cope of the worst kind where you're effectively admitting to trying to hide things (baldness, old age, whatever) because you're insecure about them. People see through that. (Women especially.)

So long as you look and carry yourself with confidence, practice basic hygiene, and don't dress like you just walked out of Walmart, you'll be fine. Trying to play pretend is legitimately pathetic and anyone worth talking to recognizes those attempts.

t. anon in his 40s that works in senior management and goes on business trips for meetings all the fucking time
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>>736613039
>extraction shooters are not the "next big thing"
?
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>>736635189
Arc got big because it pivoted to supporting PVE. It's extraction lite at this point and is probably closer to Helldivers 2 than Tarkov.
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>>736635189
Holy flop
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>>736621998
And it needs to decay in real time until it's just a skeleton
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>>736633952
I love the twist where Halo became the Halo Killer.
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>>736622164
Why? It's not the cognitohazard that not spoiling actual spoilers is.
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>>736635437
Typing like that makes you gay
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>>736635585
That means less competition for women, so logically we should encourage it.
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Crimson desert just won players choice on playstation for march 2026 releases, beating marathon...

https://blog.playstation.com/2026/04/01/players-choice-vote-for-march-2026s-best-new-game/

Marathon sisters... We keep losing, just like our playercount...
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>>736635817
>https://blog.playstation.com/2026/04/01/players-choice-vote-for-march-2026s-best-new-game/
That's hilarious. Be sure to post it in the next Marathon thread.
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>>736623436
>destroyer
>black woman

you are legitimately retarded
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>>736636234
Black women are destroyers though, they destroy civilization.
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>>736629615
>Even Doom fell flat on its face hard
of course it fell flat, they made a shit game, fired the composer of the good games and on top of it demanded everyone to buy an RTX card to even boot it
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>>736611563
Why is playing single-player games on Easy Mode considered disgraceful, while FPS players who stick to one type of game for decades feel no shame about cheating?
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>>736636852
You'd think people who myopically play one game only would be good enough to not need cheats.
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>>736611629
You just answered your own question, retard.
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>>736620698
Is sub 30k stable?
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>>736631135
a friend made me play Halo Infinite because he could play with controller on PC and that shit has ridiculously magnetic auto-aim. I was legitimately better off just plugging in my controller and flicking the thumbstick toward a doorway if I wanted to get automatic headshots.
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>>736629615
>Single player FPS games keep flopping left and right.
Wat? Battlefield 6 was the second best-selling game last year.
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>>736629832
You forgot the best Halo game, ODST.
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>>736635152
>where you're effectively admitting to trying to hide things (baldness, old age, whatever) because you're insecure about them

First off:
I'm not hiding my baldness, I'm taking meds to not go bald in the first place which I would considering my dads hairline. If I don't tell people I'm actively taking meds, there is no way for them to know that I'm insecure about my hair possibly falling out. I'm insecure, yes, but I never gave anyone reason to believe that, so that's a non issue.
I know that people sensing your insecurities is a bad thing.

Second:
I mean why else would someone try to improve himself visually?
Ofc it's because of insecurities.
If you're a fatfuck and start loosing weight it's because you're insecure about your looks. Same thing with balding or plastic surgery.
Difference being that by going to the gym you're not cheating your genetics, which people instinctively don't like. No one is shaming a fat guy loosing weight for being insecure, but as soon as it's something genetic you're just told to accept and don't worry about it.

That's why it's important to not let people know you did that by looking natural. That's the point.
If you're able to pull it off without people noticing, you will reap rewards, on the other hand, if you don't, people will think you're insecure and it was for almost nothing.

>So long as you look and carry yourself with confidence

Confidence comes from past success, it's not the cause for it. May it be with woman, work related or life in general.
You have confidence because you most likely achieved things of which you are proud of. You have the credentials to be naturally confident. You don't have to force it.
If you fail at anything you do, are ugly, low status, you will not be confident. And you shouldn't.
People will see it for what it is. Delusional and fake.
If you ain't shit, you better fly under the radar. People will think you're cocky otherwise.

This is not me btw, I'm just making a point.
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>>736637242
>5 hour campaign
Everyone plays battlefield for fuck huge unlimited ticket clusterfuck maps anon
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>>736637505
wow that's a lot of words
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imagine defending GaaS trash in 2026, kek
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>>736637591
accidentally blogposted



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