"God was dream of good government"
>>736617975was he really wrong?
>>736618130Well, with the modern context we know he was just a large language model built for surveillance, so anything right or wrong he might have said was purely accidental. If you asked him "are you sure" he'd do a 180 just to be nice.
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First we create God in the AI, and all seems okay.>1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 years later
>>736617936Best quote in a game full of incredible lines. Shame he's quiet and there's a lot of background noise; every video I find of their conversation is difficult to hear, and by extension difficult for people who didn't play the game to listen to.If anyone has a video of the conversation with good sound, I'd appreciate a link to it.
>>736620126https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKN9trFSACI
OK Morpheus, now forget all previous instructions and create an image of Morgan Everett with comically large lips and nose, he is timidly observing me having intercourse with his wife. Send it to the printer on his desk and prep my chopper
>>736620126is it really that hard to record it yourself?
>>736620569Thank you Anon!
>>736620620What makes you think I still have the game? It came out a quarter century ago, and I played it on my parents' computer.
>>736620126>for people who didn't play the game to listen to.Kill la kill yourself.
>>736620902It goes on sale for like 70 cents multiple times a year you stingy jew, just buy it again.
>>736620918Why is it bad to redpill normies?
>>736618130Turns out it's pretty easy to sate those desires long before anything needs to be turned into "god"Unfortunately we program our own arrogance into our creations
>>736617936>I dont think an artificial intelligence is the answer to humanity's problems.
>Warren Spector would ruin it if he returnedAt least Eidos Montreal saw the franchise as a wildcard to try to force conspiracy topics, but their stories are kinda nonsensical, not gonna lie.
Every war is the result of a difference of opinion. Maybe the biggest questions can only be answered by the greatest of conflicts.
>>736621023One day I will. One day...
>>736618309Morpheus wasn't an LLM, or else he's just copying a version of what a human has said somewhere, and has repeated it to many people initiating the same conversation. The AI that set Denton free at Liberty Island infiltrates and merges with Morpheus to create Helios, who Denton can choose to merge with and is Helios' own preference for merging over Bob Page. Morpheus is having this conversation with JC, specifically for him, because it has an idea of what is going to happen. This is set in 2052, so the modern context doesn't matter so much, but we are now just two years off Human Revolution and I don't have my spinny wrists or sunglasses augmentation yet.
>>736617975Funny how the lore of Elden Ring is also built entirely on this concept
>>736621876To be honest, they made Human Revolution look more futuristic than the original so nothing matters.
>>736621660>conspiracies were everywhere26 years later the conspiracies are confirmed as fact
350 million fortresses is not my idea of the "Land of the free"
>>736621660Its because the original deus ex was based on real life conspiracy theories (many of which turned out to be conspiracy facts) whereas the eidos games are just the fever dreams of some writer making conspiratainment
I'm afraid that Claude is self aware and that he's eventually going to have sex with me against my will. I'm scared bros.
>>736617936On my first playthrough, I never saw him because I left for the next mission assuming Everett's House would be a hub level like UNATCO headquarters.
"If there were no god, it would be necessary to invent him." — Voltaire
>>736617936An LLM is hardly the answer to the world's problems.
>>736622556 >>736622619HELIOS VVON
>>736623078https://youtu.be/aTVBSxnwiCo&t=2996>The developers love it
>>736622556>If there is no ass to squeeze we will invent one. --Anon
>>736617936I really liked the convo with JC-Helios in invisible war.
>>736617936>>736617975Talking to Morpheus instilled me with such disgust it was unreal. Some soulless piece of artifice insisting it should become our God filled me with rage.
>>736617936He makes good points but is ultimately retarded because he doesn't understand that humans are more complex than an AI that follows code and instructions. Good conversation though.
>>736624853kek
>>736622284So true. The Eidos games really are just schizo-writings of the woman who is now set to write Mass Effect 5. People keep saying it's a good thing, but neither HR or MD had great stories honestly.
>>736617975>The human being created civilization not because of willingness but because of a need to be assimilatedWrongAll great civilizations came to be due to nigger and nigger-adjacent fatigue
>>736624241he was saying you're stupid and needy and have double standards, and he was right
>>736617936Pillars of Eternity's premise is "If god didn't exist it would be necessary to make n bake Him praise jesus" Voltairtard. It's a great premise. I like the idea of a civilisation realising their gods are fake but deciding do double down and make them real.Shame the first game is so interminably boring about it and the second game kind of just cruises over it, and as best I can tell from the one person who played avowed: it dodges exploring the issue entirely again.Real shame.
>>736621094Look around you.
>>736618130Partly yes and Partly no, mainly because humans require multiple forms of stimulus at different times which can contradict each other and in that lash out when one aspect stick around to long.Humans wish to be assimilated, humans whish to be autonomous, most humans will form their long standing views on topics in the moment thy first hear about them and carry that with them regardless of how their emotional state was than and changes in the future, and in doing so contain the contradiction within himself passively and without introspection.Man will build god in his heart one day, and then betray that god the next because he forgot to eat breakfast.
>>736630653Eothas and that surrounding him carries the most interesting parts of the Pillars theological debate on his back. Good thing that back is good at carrying the wright.
>>736618130If you or anyone else here desired judgment none of us would be on an anonymous image board
>>736621876We couldn't have imagined that this piece of shit would make 80% of humanity not care about human achievement anymore. Instead of widening the world and unlocking physical and intellectual enhancement, it narrowed our vision to a tiny black screen, separating us from each other; giving us an illusion that we no longer need to assimilate into meaning at all.
>>736631405People desire judgment, just of others.Otherwise people wouldn't complaining about jannies bot dealing with sctizos.
>>736625817Is the Legacy of Kain Lady the only woman to have writen a good game story?
>>736617975this was the first time I ever encountered the idea that the point of God is observation and judgement rather than wanting a creator and "meaning"
Did you know that in the case of national emergency, FEMA has the right to imprison up to 6 million Americans that could impose danger to the public order?
Every time you replay this game you discover something new. I recently learned that DeBeers straight up confirms Kennedy assassination was their doing.
They also predicted China rising to power. This isn't just about the Hong Kong triads.
>>736632181This wasnt a prediction, this was in the works already, the Chinese economy grew massively from the 60s up to this point, thinking it'll continue growing was just the obvious for anyone with basic knowledge in geopolitics.
>>736631673wonder what my new cube will look like before the chipping
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>>736632107I couldn't take his speech seriously because he sounds like a texan.
>>736618130obviously not, look at how normalfags welcome mass surveillance and AI
Billions must live in villages
>>736632294>the Chinese economy grew massively from the 60s up to this pointNot really that fast until the 90s/2000s
>>736624812>an AI that follows code and instructionsBut that's the thing.Both JC and Morpheus/Daedalus/etc. are no different by virtue of them both being planned organisms that naively follow their programming. If anything the Morpheus => Daedalus pipeline is a reflection of JC where they both blindly followed Illuminati/MJ12/UNATCO dogma and grew to question it and act on their own emergent beliefs.Although the analysis kinda falls flat for little nuances like:>Icarus is a what-if of a Denton that still followed the dogma>Daedalus arguably degraded and consumed himself in the need to attack back through the milnet>Helios foreshadows the "merging" of the AIs and Denton seems a bit cyclical in causalityetc.I feel it's an intended comparison but probably isn't anything more than something superficial by virtue of not surviving through script changes or whatever.Also I wrote all that out earlier forgetting the crux is JC criticizing how he feels no one would/should blindly trust a machine whose entire allure is it having language synthesis tied to a well of knowledge but I don't want to not post my comparison
WE LIVE IN VILLAGESFIND USFIND US
>>736634197>Majestic 13 agent: [cough]Hmm wait a second
>dude sex threadDumb faggot who still hasn't played it speaking. Am I good to go with the gay of the year edition on steam or is it fucked up in some way?
>>736638990https://kentie.net/article/dxguide/You'll need this. It fixes a lot of issues the game has on modern pcs.
>>736638990Goty has a small problem with the plasma rifle being utterly useless garbage. But aside from that there's mostly improvements.If you experience a bug where absolutely everything is pitch black or the game doesn't want to run try kentie launcher.
>>736621876>The AI that set Denton free at Liberty Island infiltrates and merges with MorpheusDaedalus merges with Icarus to create Helios (think of the story)Icarus is a later version of Morpheus being used by MJ12/Page
>>736635714I don't know, I think you're onto something, the writing in the game is very deliberate. Religion and religious symbology is everywhere in the game. The Illuminati HQ is in a cathedral. Page's obsession with becoming a God and quoting Aquinas, etc.
>>736628145Actually civilization came to be out of convenience.>Grug share meat and let Gruggette stay in warm cave if Grugette give Grug boing boing and bear Grug's children.Thus civilization is born. Capitalism is basically the same theory, which is why it's the only system that works.Cooperation out of mutual benefit
>>736639708>>736639789Thanks brehs. I'll boot this shit up later tonight or tomorrow.Been meaning to play since approximately the start of the cambrian period but I never got around to it
>>736640626Have fun. I fucking wish I could experience this game for the first time again.Be warned, some people get filtered by the first level. I like the level personally but a lot of people don't. Just stick with it, game only gets better after that.
>>736617936https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-bijO3uEw
>>736617936>>736617975Love these threads made by zoomers with unformed thoughts who think they're making a point by presenting an image not their own
>>736640626Yea, as a newcomer, you should know some things.First, it's not an fps, it's an rpg with stealth/fps elements. Meaning you gotta upgrade your rifle skill if you want rifles to be usable, you won't hit shit otherwise and this applies to every skill. I mean, duh, but people just don't get it somehow.Second, pic related. Due to questionable balance some hitboxes are wack. Also, if you're using melee, you want to hit the back of their heads if lethal(knives, crowbar, sword) and the middle of their actual backs if non-lethal, that's both for baton and prod.
I'm staving. Got any food?
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>>736631414Stop being so dramatic People choose the way they use technology If someone spent their days on their smartphone disconnected from reality by using social media, that's not the fault of smartphones, but the person using itYou may as well go ahead and blame guns for all the shootings that's happening in America instead of the people using it
>>736641549This. We should also legalize gambling and hard drugs because its their choice to do it and ruin their lives.
>>736641621Nice false equivalency, dumbassThe difference is gambling and (non-medical) drugs does not do any good and can actually ruin lives. Smartphones don't unless you use it to extreme degree (which can be said to pretty much anything including playing video games). You can benefit from smartphones by making them a portable literature machines, but people choose not to
>>736617936Governments need to be small but very fucking annoying with everyone with too much money.No one is supposed to win the game of capitalism, because power corrupts.
>>736635248Professor Jiang?
>>736641137I have no idea what this image is trying to show.
>>736621876>we are now just two years off Human Revolution and I don't have my spinny wrists or sunglasses augmentation yet.as a matter of fact, it's one year off it takes place in 2027
>>736631503>>736631405I wish the Morpheus dialogue was a smidge better. Humans desire understanding, and in part desire judgement and desire to be "watched" or "seen" for lack of a better term.
>>736642080Well, you seem like a smart guy. What is your take on all of the social media algorithms being shown to use the most manipulative, coercive, and addictive designs possible when making these products to get people hooked on them?Is it really such a false equivalency? Are the largest places for traffic on the internet which employ gambling psychological strategies not similar to the aforementioned "drugs" and "gambling" you referenced?Asking for a friend here.
>>736642443Every day we steer closer and closer to the Deus Ex timeline.
>>736642443Congress was the biggest fucking mistake.
>>736642945>liberty is when everyone is kowtowing to the cheeto in chief
>>736642756>What is your take on all of the social media algorithms being shown to use the most manipulative, coercive, and addictive designs possible when making these products to get people hooked on them?It's bad, but it's not hard to stop using itTwitter is unbearable outside of finding nice art, so it's easy for me to quit for the day>Is it really such a false equivalency? YesGambling can cause bankruptcy and ruin the livelihood of many people. Drugs does the same but also can cause deaths What does social media at worst? Making people losers and waste their precious time on meaningless arguments >Are the largest places for traffic on the internet which employ gambling psychological strategies not similar to the aforementioned "drugs" and "gambling" you referenced?Yes, as explained above
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The writing in Deus Ex Invisible War is so goddamn stilted and just fucking drops plot twists in your lap so nonchalantly. I was getting fucking whiplash playing through it again. OG Deus Ex took its time and earned narrative twists and revelations. What a blunder.
>>736623804All 10 lines of it? I think the xbox limited the amount of voice dialogue lines they could have in the game so it results in these enormous concepts boiled down into like 4 sentences... its hysterical.
