>It's like Zelda 1 but in 3D>It's a spiritual successor to the original Zelda>it plays just like the 2D ZeldasIs there a bigger zoomer larp than this? These are not remotely true and just make it blatantly obvious you have never played any of the classic Zeldas
>>736627043it's brutally mogged by Crimson Desert
Imagine getting filtered by one of the two best Zelda games ever made, the ones that distilled what makes a Zelda game down to its quintessential essence. Imagine seeing this PURE Zelda kino, and then vomited forth that you would rather play a schizophrenic Ocarina of Time randomizer where the adult items are in the deku tree at the start. lmfao
>>736627417The two best Zelda games ever made are Zelda 1 and ALTTP
Ocarina of Time is also nothing like 2D Zelda sobut you're right people should stop saying it's like Zelda 1
>>736627043It’s Zelda 1 if every cave had a simple puzzle, every dungeon had no enemies, and you needed to craft bombs, arrows, and potions.
Zelda 1>2D>60fps and extremely responsive with fast animations>6 hour game>extremely small, compact, and dense map>9 dungeons>dungeons are combat focused >no towns or quests>minimal tutorialization or distractionsBotW>3D>30fps and extremely high input lag and overly long animations>60 hour game>extremely large, empty, and spread out map>4 dungeons>dungeons are puzzle-focused with very little combat>full of towns and fetch quests like a shitty MMO>excessive tutorialization and distractionsZoomers be like >omg they're literally the same game!!!
>>736627191>korean game >mogging anythinglmao shouldn't you be at your designated shill threads having a blast? Or defending your thrash game in this threads like this >>736624128?
>>736627043Stop being a tranny tranny, plus the next game has been confirmed to be open world too
>>736627043It is like the 2D Zelda games, mainly LoZ and LttP. This is true no matter how assblasted OoTfaggots get about Nintendo dropping their shitty clones.
>>736627896Ocarina of Time is literally ALttP in 3D
>>736628574How so? Can you defend that statement?
>>736627191It's mogged by most other open world games. I was surprised with how little there is to do in BOTW's map.>>736627974If BOTW had a smaller, more content-filled map and the weapon durability was gone, the game would have been so kino. Unfortunately it's one of those bigger=better kinds of maps.
>>736628143brutally fucking mogged on all frontsyou are retarded if you think otherwise
>>736627043I think Aonuma genuinely believed he was making something like Zelda 1, a game he can't finish.
You wander a map going in a generally suggested order.Close enough
>>736627043I think it's funnier that autists take what the devs were talking about too literally in the GDC panel.The idea with BotW was dropping in and picking a direction to go in, but without the limitations Zelda games had. Zelda 1 partially had it, and was the start of the inspiration, but items required dungeons be done a certain order anyway.And plus they used Zelda 1 to test out their elements interactions. LIke fire burning, water freezing, etc, that they wanted to utilize in BotW.But autists here want to downplay BotW so much, they'll be like "WELL ACKSUALLY ZELDA 1 IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT". It turns 10 years old next year, it's time to move on.
>>736627043What are you talking about? It literally has the same graphical fidelity of the originals.
>>736627191You're right, the schizos defending CD are much crazier than the BOTW ones
>>736631564>muh content!Yeah, just fill every inch of the map with derivative slop. That’s peak game design!BotW is an adventure game, not an Ubisoft checklist simulator.
>>736627043>Not one, but two Zelda seethe threads in the catalog>2nd one was made just as the first one is about to reach bump limit Someone’s really, really upset.
>>736632676Three actually lmao
>>736632723link? I want to laugh.
>hourly BoTW Derangement Syndrome thread
>>736627043They love to throw up le sales figures too, not realizing that it actually further exposes the larp of BotWfags being Zelda 1 purists. BotW was made for Skyrim and Far Cry kiddies, not Zelda 1 oldfags.
>>736632261>It turns 10 years old next year, it's time to move on.Someone needs to tell Nintendo, because they haven't followed up yet.
>>736632676>what a loser this guy is>anyway I'm going to spend all day monitoring the catalog and spamming those threads to make them unusable>>736632261They used Zelda 1 SPRITES, not the engine. Is Paper Mario also a Super Mario World successor just because it was pitched using SMW sprites by this logic?
Zelda 1 was about exploring the world to find dungeons. BotW doesnt even have that. The game almost immediately marks the 4 dungeons on your map, so no real exploration is needed. It's kind of ridiculous. Thats why it doesnt feel like Zelda 1 at all.
>>736634531To be fair, the manual lays out the location of 7 of the 9 dungeons and hints at the last ones
>>736634531Plus you have to do story shit to get into all the dungeons in BotW, which is much more in the vein of the previous 3D games. ALBW was the real successor to Zelda 1, and BotW is a usurper to the crown, but people forced themselves to hate the item rental mechanic so now we just don't have secondary items anymore. Thanks assholes.
>>736634348I'm a skyrim kiddy and I think BotW is lame, skyrim has no weapon deterioration, more meaningful content, a more densely packed world and actual quests with actual stories, and it also unironically looks better.
>>736629757Because it focuses on overworld exploration and interacting with the environment. Hyrule Castle is a LoZ dungeon finally brought to 3D.
>>736635119>I don't want to do dungeonsftfy
>>736627043I think it does some of things Skyward Sword did better.
>>736635447What did the OoToddler pretending to be a Zelda fan mean by this? No seriously, can someone translate.
>>736635731You know what I'm saying. You're the asshole who's been trying to make grand claims for months that dungeons weren't important in Zelda 1 to justify how few of them there are and how short they are in BotW/TotK, and their optional status.
>>736632449>BotW is an adventure game, not an Ubisoft checklist simulator.And what comes with adventure? Actual content to do and not just pretty landscapes and the same copy & pasted shrines.
>It's like Zelda 1 but in 3DThis only makes sense if the only thing you did in Zelda 1 was wander around the "starting" region the map and didn't make any progress and never actually beat the game. Which I'm pretty sure Aonuma admitted that's the only way he played Zelda 1.
>>736636081You'll get over it
>>736635989>that dungeons weren't important in Zelda 1I'm not your boogyman, but that's true. They are very small and not very remarkable outside of the Wizzrobe rape cave and Ganons. And they are non-linear as well so retards who pretend they understand level design would cry that you could bomb walls like in Level 2 and skip all the combat encounters anyway lmao. LoZ was about exploring the overworld, and much of the game time is spent trying to figure out where the dungeons even are and finding upgrades in the overworld.>how short they are in BotW/TotKNot having worthless padding isn't the same as them being small. Hyrule Castle is bigger (and better) than every individual dungeon from the previous 3D games twice over.
>>736636354padding is when mandatory content in game
>>736627043
>>736636442Sorry, but you already agreed that Hyrule Castle is better than every previous 3D dungeon. No take backs now. You said layout matters.
>>736627191>>736631564>>736636081cry more fag
>>736636081>copy & pasted shrinesname them
>>736636354Why should the series be beholden to Zelda 1 anyway? No shit you're going to think dungeons don't have much to offer as a concept if you're arbitrarily limiting yourself to only considering the very first game in a series from fucking 1986.>>736636491Hyrule Castle isn't a dungeon; there's no structure to it, it's all pure padding between you and the final boss room. Even the Divine Beasts had the barest semblance of structure.
It's only like Zelda 1 in the sense that you had a lot of freedom in how to explore that game too. But there was still dungeons and classic item-gated progression unlike BotW. Zelda 1 is somewhere in between BotW and LttP, but I'd say it's closer to the LttP end of the spectrum. I get where people are coming from when they compare it to Zelda 1 though.
>>736636537Every Shrine with the name "Blessing" or "Test of Strength". That alone is a third of BotW's Shrines.
>>736636681But you meet an old guy who wears (kinda) red in the beginning! See? Zelda 1!!!!!!!
>>736634531That definitely hurts. I think it also matters that a lot of areas in Zelda 1 are blocked off until you get a certain item, whereas BotW gives you a bunch of items in the tutorial and then you can go to any dungeon including the last one.
>>736636712Name some
>>736636667>Why should the series be beholden to Zelda 1 anyway?What do you even mean? Zelda is a series about exploration. The point of the series is to explore a fantasy world. Only the early 2D Zelda games and newer 3D games pulled that off well. >Hyrule Castle isn't a dungeonIt's not only a dungeon, but quite possibly and singlehandedly the best level I've ever seen in a 3D action adventure game. It shits all over the garbage you're pretending is good in the previous 3D Zelda games.
>>736636863>The point of the series is to explore a fantasy world.And explore dungeons. Oops!>>736636863>It shits all over the garbage you're pretending is good in the previous 3D Zelda games.Yes, you like it because it's all skippable. We know.
>>736636863I always thought of Zelda as being 50% overworld exploration, and 50% dungeons. You have that nice contrast between more relaxed, and more intense gameplay, and each part of the game complements the other. Exploration leads to cool dungeons, and dunegons leads to cool rewards that make exploration more fun. It's a positive loop. BotW doesn't have that. It's still fun to fuck around in the overworld, but it would've been way more satisfying if there were actual dungeons to find.
>>736636919>And explore dungeons.And good thing BotW is the first 3D Zelda game with truly good dungeon design. Now this is the part where you pretend walking in a straight line to shoot an eyeball is actually l-le fun! and not pointless padding.>YesGlad we could agree previous 3D dungeons are dogshit and Nintendo will never ever go back to the OoT formula. In fact, no developer ever will.
>>736636828>Tests of StrengthDah Hesho Shrine Dah Kaso ShrineKatah Chuki ShrineNoya Neha ShrinePumaag Nitae ShrineSoh Kofi ShrineKe'nai Shakah ShrineMijah Rokee ShrineMuwo Jeem ShrineNamika Ozz ShrineSasa Kai ShrineShoqa Tatone ShrineChaas Qeta ShrineGoma Asaagh ShrineHia Miu ShrineKema Kosassa ShrineMozo Shenno ShrineSaas Ko'sah ShrineTena Ko'sah ShrineTutsuwa Nima Shrine>Blessings Daag Chokah ShrineDagah Keek ShrineDila Maag ShrineJitan Sa'mi ShrineKeeha Yoog ShrineKetoh Wawai ShrineKorgu Chideh ShrineKorsh O'hu ShrineKuhn Sidajj ShrineLanno Kooh ShrineMaag Halan ShrineMaag No'rah ShrineMisae Suma ShrineQaza Tokki ShrineQukah Nata ShrineRaqa Zunzo ShrineRitaag Zumo ShrineRona Kachta ShrineShae Katha ShrineShai Yota ShrineTahno O'ah ShrineTawa Jinn ShrineTho Kayu ShrineTo Quomo ShrineTu Ka’loh ShrineZuna Kai Shrine
>>736637053You thought wrong because none of the games do that 50% split. Not even the shitty 3D games you're going to try and champion do it.
>>736637167Even so, that loop still exists whereas it doesn't in BotW.
>>736637084Again, your idea of a good dungeon is "I shouldn't have to do it, but if I do anyway, it has to be as short as possible so I can get back to Youtube Shorts". You gush about "exploration" but piss your pants about having to do so in an inside location for more than 5 minutes.
>>736637084>BotW is the first 3D Zelda game with truly good dungeon designcome on, you must be trolling. The divine beasts are lame, and the shrines are too short and simple to be anything.
>>736637247It doesn't. And BotW has dungeons that are far better designed than any shitty 3D game you grew up with.
>>736637305He is trolling, look at the childish-ass rebuttals he gave me here: >>736637084
>>736637292>your idea of a good dungeon isgood level design. Something that doesn't exist in previous 3D games.
OoT snoys Hage such severe Nintendo Derangement Syndrome, it's insane.
>>736637396good level design is when it's optional entirely
>>736637305>divine beasts are lame,Being able to manipulate state changes in real-time is better than watching cutscenes and being funneled into a linear, isolated room that doesn't connect with each other.
>>736637428>Its not linear so its badI'm so the OoT formula is finally dead.
>>736637420>>736637562lol he's already crytyping and ritualposting
>>736627043I literally can not understand the praise for any Zelda games released after majoras mask. Every fucking game afterwards feels like a never ending tutorial.
>>736637627I have a soft spot for Wind Waker. It's charming.
>>736637590That's two different people retard. Too bad you're never getting another shitty OoT clone ever again. Just play the Norse GoW games, they are the direct evolution of OoT anyway.
>>736637627Style over substance in most cases.
>736637680look mommy i posted it again
>>736637851Truth hurts to hear about your favourite game, doesn't it.
Link's Awakening >>> Your Favourite Zelda
>>736637627Weird how you say that when Wind Waker has less handholding than OoT and MM combined.
>>736637901That explains your temper tard-trums over people correcting your LARPing ass over claiming that dungeons weren't an important part of Zelda 1.
>>736627043It's fun and good
>>736637974It certainly explains you never playing Zelda 1, yeah.
Lemme know when they do a follow up to Zelda II
>OoTsnoys hate BoTW and ToTK for being a "giant empty field">despite them liking OoT, a game with an actual giant empty field with nothing to do in itReally makes you think.
>>736637126faker, no one remembers the names
>>736638165Hopefully never.
>>736638057>n-no u!!!!I've literally beaten Zelda 1 more times than Eiji Aonuma has. If this is the peak of your wit, no wonder you want dungeons to be kept to an absolute minimum and optional. They doubtlessly tire out every both of your braincells.
nu-zelda is shit and you should eat shit if you think it's good
>>736627043>>736638265Oh fuck off, snoy.
>>736638234>'ve literally beaten Zelda 1No you haven't. Since you would know you spent more time exploring the overworld than you do in dungeons even on repeat playthroughs. Even ignoring the fact the dungeons being small with multiple routes so you can easily skip through them.>Eiji Aonuma Hero. Glad he killed off OoT clones forever.
>>736638382I'm trans btw
>>736638445N64fags certainly are considering they need safe spaces in their waifuthreads. Can't even spot the difference between them and gachafags.
>>736638517Is that why you circlejerk in your famitsu generals all week?nu-tendies really lack self awareness
>>736638382>you spent more time exploring the overworld than you do in dungeons The first 7 dungeons alone have more screens than the entire overworld in Zelda 1.LARPing. Cunt.
>>736638624>you circlejerk in your famitsu generals>nu-tendiesHoly snoynigger.
>>736638689I accept your concession
>>736638669That's cool. So, you agree you spent more time exploring the overworld than you do in dungeons even on repeat playthroughs? Especially since even Ganons doesn't take more than 5 mins.
>>736638234>I've literally beaten Zelda 1 more times than Eiji Aonuma hasTo be fair, that's at minimum a single time. Aonuma to this day still hasn't beaten the game.
>>736638905
>>736638789Exploring the overworld to get to (wow) dungeons! It's not this lopsided ratio that makes dungeons a footnote like you think it is.
>>736634456You're proving my point, an autist obsessing over semantics such as "WELL ACKSUALLY IT WAS SPRITES, NOT LITERALLY ZELDA 1".That's not what my original point was. So you're either brain-injured, or being disingenuous on purpose.
>>736639034>Exploring the overworld to get to (wow) dungeons!That's the bulk of the game. I know you never played the game but the majority of the game time is wondering around in the overworld looking for different kinds of secrets.>makes dungeons a footnoteThey are. Can you be specific (about a game you never played) and tell me which ones are large and take a long time to get though?
>>736639159Getting someone else to do the dungeons for you doesn't mean they don't exist or matter. Do you even have object permanence, anon? You're exhibiting an alarming amount of extra chromosomes ITT.
>>736639387>Getting someone else to do the dungeons for youNo, you're pretending to have played the game since you don't even know how the game works.
>>736637126
>>736637354He said "OoT killed 3D Zelda" in a previous thread and got BTFO for saying it. He is indeed a troll.
>>736639864Show me, I wanna see this
>>736637084Consider suicide
>>736634775Also lizard titties. Don’t forget that.
>>736638382>>736638669It's about even, you retread through the overworld a lot exploring, checking for secrets, doing puzzle/progression shit. HOWEVER, the manual with the game literally includes the first 6 dungeon locations in order and heavily hints at the rest, so most people won't really be hopelessly lost just trying to find dungeonsSome of the later dungeons can get pretty long and labyrinthine, and they are also by far the hardest part of the game, so you might be on them a while if you keep dying.>t. beat it with just the manual on original hardware last year
>>736639901https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736601785/#736623229
>>736639932I won't. You certainly will though now that OoT and its clones are never coming back.https://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-producer-considers-breath-of-the-wild-to-be-a-new-kind-of-format-for-the-series-to-proceed-from/https://nintendoeverything.com/legend-of-zelda-eiji-aonuma-linear-traditional-games/
>>736639981jesus christ, the kid's a moron
EoW was better.
>>736639970>can get pretty long and labyrinthineThat's exclusively level 9 because of all the optional rooms, usually filled with faggot wizzrobes everywhere.
It's similar in terms of freedom and no handholding. Every other Zelda game is really linear and has long tutorials
>>736640043She cute
>>736640043>>736640141Is it actually good? I thought about getting it but it seemed like reception was mixed
>>736640018When are you going to stop pretending you liked Zelda before this ubislop abomination of a game?
>>736640106>and no handholdingSure. The game that tells you what to do at every turn and lets you cook retardedly overpowered strength/temp heart meals with easy-to-find materials (that you can detect with a fucking radar) has "no handholding".
>>736640169I like it a whole lot, even if it suffers from the Scribblenauts problem of the freedom you're given being kind of redundant since a few options are pretty universally good. It's a really good mix of BotW/TotK kind of freeform puzzle solving in a much more standard Zelda structure. It's probably closest to LbW overall since you have two main chunks of dungeons but can do them in any order within said chunk.
>>736640018newfag alphie
>>736640170You can cry like a bitch all you want, OoT, TP, and SS are complete and utter dogshit and will never, ever come back. Thank fucking God.
It makes me feel a little better knowing that the samefagging retard was caught and banned on eightgag when 4chan was shut down.
Old Zelda is good. New Zelda is also good. My first Zelda game was the original on the GC collector's edition disc and I've beaten every game in the series more than once.
>>736640331>I'm too stupid for Zelda games so I'm glad Nintendo is catering the series to retarded impatient shitskin third-worlders like me instead>>736640335That was hilarious, he had no clue about the postIDs whatsoever, even after posting.
>>736640252>tells you what to do at every turnUh, no? Idk what else to say except you're super wrong. Maybe a few main quests the village leader will be like "we need X" but that's not really handholding? Pretty sure I completed like 100 shrines without even talking to anyone.
>>736640331You are underage
>>736640501If you engage with the main quest at all (what little there is of it), the game absolutely tells you what to do constantly and gives you map markers.
>he didn't mention MM or WWI wonder why that is.
>>736640043I hate games where you send people to fight for you, and there's no risk or harm behind it. Even more casualized slop than a Kirby/Yoshi game.
>>736640612Just throw rocks.
>>736640018OoT remake though? Classic gods won
>>736640437>I'm too stupid for Zelda gamesYou seem to be that's why you're championing these pieces of dogshit and pretending games with no exploration are Zelda games.
>engagement farmer .webmNoticed.
>>736640729
>>736640725I hope they turn it into BotW to see the mass suicide of N64fags overnight. Would be kino.
>>736627974It’s the sense of openness and exploration, but clearly you’ve never played the original.
>>736640939>it's only about the vibes bronice woman argument
>>736640939>it's the sense of openness and explorationSo Zelda 1 lets you skip everything and go right to ganon?
>>736640967You are statistically likely to kill yourself knowing you will never get another shitty OoT style game ever again.
>>736641073I'll survive, unlike you
>>736640967>OoT snoys go through people's personal accounts to "own" Switch fansBoTW Derangement Syndrome is a strange thing.
>>736641125>I'll surviveClocks ticking already. 48 hours remain. Hopefully you'll livestream it.
>>736640998Nice job confirming you’ve never played the game. Kys.
>>736641143ywnbaw
>>736641125That's how you know Aonuma had a strong role in the game despite being "producer", probably even more than Fujibayashi was despite him being the "director" - he was clearly upset by losing, whereas Fujibayashi next to him is far less outwardly fazed by the loss.>>736641143Not as strange as BotW Transition Syndrome.
>>>/vp/
>BotW fan begs people to kill themselves because they prefer a different Zelda gameTruly deranged indeed.
>>736641217And you will never outsell BoTW, OoT cultist.
>>736641212
>Famitsu Thursday tomorrow>OoTsnoys start spamming anti-BoTW threadsInteresting.
>>736641264NTA but My favorite open world game already outsold both BOTW and TOTK, and even if it didn't, it's still a better game.
>>736641264I don't care about sales. You have no self awareness do you
>>736641373I do and I love that Nintendo killed off OoT clones for good.
>>736641361>people prefer a different Nintendo game than me>this must be the work of sony
>>736641417>I love that nintendo killed off oot clones for ubislop clones because I'm definitely not a cultist obsessed with sales numbers
>>736640998It's literally about exploring the openworld and interacting with the environment you. The point of Zelda is unguided exploration and will always be.
>>736641629>I love that nintendo killed off oot clonesYep. I couldn't be happier. Zelda is finally back and more popular and successful than ever.
>>736641484OoT fanboys have been seething like Snoys for 9 years now. It's nothing new.
>>736641719retard
>>736641643>how new and different this game washoly fuck that's a HUGE lead pipe to the BOTW IS LE ZELDA 1 REVIVAL argument's knees.
>>736641804Nope. But you're certainly an assblasted little bitch who will continue to cry that Nintendo isn't making this braindead dogshit anymore.
>>736641484It's a buzzword for anything he doesn't like.
>I hated the Zelda series until they copied the open world games en masse that people had been playing on Playstation for 15 years>but the people who like the games in the Zelda series before 2017, those are the snoysYou know, this just occurred to me. This NEVER made any goddamn sense.
>he's posted that Ganon's Castle .webm three times today
>>736641979>the people who like the gamesLiking OoT doesn't mean you're a Zelda fan. It means you're a OoT fan.
>>736641643>the point of zelda is unguided explorationSo you can skip the great plateau without ever getting shiekah powers or the glider?
>>736641979BoTW fans are Zelda fans that didn't betray Nintendo in the end, unlike you.
>>736642036What did the retard mean by this.
>>736642074>the game restricting you and forcing tutorials on you is bad>unless it's BOTWWhat did the retard mean by this?
>>736642101Again, what did the retard mean by this? He's not even communicating his thoughts correctly.
>>736642026Good thing I also like Zelda 1, LttP, LA, MM, OoS, MC, TP, PH, and ALBW, then.You, however, only like BotW and TotK. And pretend to like Zelda 1 when you want to feign seniority.
>>736642131Is BOTW's core philosophy freedom and not restricting the player?
>>736642178>Good thing I also likeAnd I have the declaration of independence in my basement.
>>736641842More fun than zoom zoom cars in my fucking zelda game
9 more years.
>>736642192ACfag I'm guessing?
>>736642223This isn't even "no u". This is just "nuh uh!". Oh my god I think I might have been picking on a special needs adult this whole time.
>>736642374No, I'm barry, on vacation from the FF14 threads. Now answer the question.
>>736642374>now the BotW brownskins also think Animal fucking Crossing fans of all fanbases are out to get themThis is just throwing shit at the wall levels of paranoia/schizophrenia.
>>736642397Actually it's just making fun of you since you're mad you got caught lying about LoZ.
>>736642496Animal Crossing snoys have been getting uppity, so can you blame BOTW fans?
>>736642729True, Animal Crossnoys won't shut up about their sales and how that must make their game automatically better.
lmao the BotWats actually abandoned this thread because it wasn't going their way and Discord didn't come to their aid
>>736644521They really couldn't prove it was like LoZ at all.
>>736644608It is like LoZ though. Doesn't matter how assblasted you get about it.
>>736644657>circular reasoning>admits he ran from this threadGood pup.
>>736644686At least you admit you're shitposting in multiple threads for hours.
>>736644749Because this thread otherwise died until a bit ago
Just having better combat and more areas like Hyrule Castle instead of shrine puzzles detached from the world or those awful divine beast "dungeons" would have make this game age way better, ah, no durability also.
>>736645271It's funny how even Elden Ring, a game that sells on being hard, decided "weapon durability is fucking gay" for open worlds. It doesn't add difficulty to Zelda, it just adds busywork.
>>736632449its so crazy how much effort has gone into genshin, that zone alone had more content than botw and totk combined
>>736647347Zelda decided durability was gay too, that's why items get used up instead of requiring repairs.
nu-tendies aren't human
