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Did your parents support your video gaming habits as a kid or did you have to hide them?
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Does only one company make a fan? I always see that fan in every laptop.
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>>736628418
What kind of bullshit is this? This reaction would be normal if it was drugs or some troon shit.
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my parents bought me an n64
i didnt even ask for one, they just paid attention to trends and figured their kid should have the shit other kids had
same with pokemon cards
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>>736628697
Some parents just want their kids to grow up normal.
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My friends convinced my parents to restrict my videogame time for a month once an d that was fucking annoying, but otherwise they were supportive both financially and by trying their best to connect with me over them. A lot of games are my favorites just because of the great memories I had growing up playing them with my parents.
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>>736628727
this but with ds instead of n64
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>>736628418
Same happened to my PS2, when i was a kid, my dad found me and my brother playing chess (not even,on the PS2) and proceeded to break the PS2 and the glass chess board, and beaten us
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>>736628418
My dad bought me a PSP Street on discount. Played the shit out of Ace Combat X, Black Mirror and Wipeout until the select button died.
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>>736628418
No when I was a kid my mom took away my xbox for being a friendless freak, she gave up when I turned 16 and remained a friendless freak
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>>736628482
>move heat in front of exhaust
>blow the shit out of it
do you need more
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>>736628418
Based parents. Video games are for nerds. Go play outside like a normal kid.
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>>736628805
what kind of shitty friends do you have
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>>736628727
i got snes. i didn't even know what is video games. they were not popular or well known thing here yet
later years learned that uncle was big video game player so parents probably got the idea from him
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Dad curb stomped my NES, and later (almost) bricked my PC by body slamming it.

Jokes on him, he killed himself years later and I used the inheritance to replace the shit he broke.
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>>736629081
The kind that fuck with each other sometimes. I have a good sense of humor because of my growing up trading jokes and pranks and general mischief with my friends, and that has served me well in life.
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>>736629272
>ghetto wigger trash
>inheritance
fake story
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>>736628764
And teaching their kids that they can't even trust their own parents to not destroy their possessions accomplishes that how exactly?
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>>736628697
It's translated, the original OP was from a Jap Twitter user.
Considering how nip parents are, he was probably playing with his Switch when he should be studying for exams.
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>>736628482
Laptops are basically dead end tech that stopped evolving back in 2016. Fans would be the last thing that got any variety.
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>>736628418
Not supported exactly, but they didn't mind me playing games. Dad even bought me some of my all times favorites - HoMM3 and FF7
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>>736629413
So his mother was not fucking him enough?
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>>736629413
Well I guess that makes sense. Still kinda harsh.
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>>736628764
It never, ever works like that. The more you try to force a child into the mold you want the more they'll resent you for it, and later when you're old and you need them, they won't be there for you, and if they are it'll only be for obligation not love.
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>>736628418
Mom smashed a $1k laptop because of WoW
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>>736629384
>set rule/limit for your kid
>kid breaks that rule/limit
>punish them to show there are consequences for your actions
As long as the limit was set beforehand then I don't see the problem. I'd call it a dumb rule to enforce but once you have a rule for your kid you need to enforce it or they grow up not thinking about their actions.
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>>736628697
>Tranny obsession out of nowhere
Never has a 1% minority so successfully mind raped an entire generation of incels
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>>736629586
Some things are just done.
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>>736629634
You can punish your kids without breaking their stuff like a fucking caveman. If you were a parent your kids would go full NC as soon as possible.
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>>736629658
Have you ever seen Games Done Quick?
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>>736628418
Yea, but they never bought me what was new. When kids were playing ps1, I was playing snes. When kids were playing ps2, i was playing ps1.
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>>736629769
If the rule is that your kid can't have the videogame console, part of the outcome of enforcing that rule is that they cannot have that videogame console you retard. If you sell it you're still depriving them of the videogame console, just with less theatrics.
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>>736629341
Here's his death certificate. I filed it myself. In his defense, he was bipolar and refused to take his meds, rip.
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>>736629951
And they say AI can replicate real written language...
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>>736628764

Normal kids play videogames though. If you don't play games as a kid, there is something deeply wrong with you.
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>>736629901
Or you could just confiscate it and lock it up for a while, like a sane person would do. You can set boundaries without acting like a psychotic dictator, but let's be real, the only reason you would have kids is because you want to be a psychotic dictator, and it's for the best that you'll never reproduce.
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>>736628418
i had a step dad who treated video games like they were hard drugs and i went though great efforts sneaking them around my house as a kid
ironically he was also a coke addict
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>>736630025
well obviously not yet because the language in that photo is gobbledygook
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>>736630064
>lock it up for a while and them give it to them
So when you say your kid can't have something and they break the rule and get it anyway, your solution is to teach them that they can just break the rules because they'll just get it back eventually. No dumbass, if you have make a rule then you enforce that rule. Don't make a rule that you're not willing to actually enforce. I would just sell the thing myself and do something symbolic with the money because smashing it is wasteful but your approach is to just give in when you set a boundary which is pathetic.
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>>736629589
how much did you play for her to snap like that?
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>>736630274
This post reeks of fried chicken
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idk why boomers had such a vehemant hatred for vidya when they could sit and watch ballfoot for hours on end which is braindeadingly stupid
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>>736630447
it's childish nonsense
I feel the same about watching vtubers so i get them
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>>736628418
I don't think parents ever supported my anything. I was fed, clothed, given place to sleep, sent to school on workdays, and that's about it.

>>736629769
"their" stuff? I don't know how law works where you live, but where I'm from, a child can't own anything.
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>>736630274
I hope your future spawn murders you in your sleep.
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>>736630495
The switch was clearly belonged to the kid in the OP otherwise how the hell would the parents not know it existed?
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>>736628418
What do parents get out of powertripping like this and destroying or sabotaging their kid's things? Are they really that desperate to have control over someone? I never understood the ultra strict authoritarian mindset. I remember a thread about an anon who went onto his 9 year old son's computer and deleted his Minecraft world because he didn't wake up on time. Some people have some serious issues.
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>>736630274
You realize the only thing you're teaching your kids in this theoretical scenario is that they need to hide shit from you better right? If you think the kid's takeaway is gonna be that following the rules is good you're retarded, he's gonna hate the rules more and just put in extra effort to hide that he breaks them. If anything you're just gonna raise a kid that's gonna break bad as soon as he turns 18 and ruin his life.
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>>736630383
Really yours reeks of an absent non-parent who doesn't care if their child disrespects their rules and does things that you strongly disapprove of. I wouldn't restrict vidya from my kid unless there was a good reason, like it was having a clear negative effect on them. If that was the case then yeah I would do some things about it because that's part of being a parent, and restricting their access would be part of what I would do. If I found out they went behind my back and did it anyway then the vidya would remain confiscated and there would be a punishment.

>>736630553
cry more.
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>>736629658
They're just aggressively delaying their eventual transition.
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>>736630623
>Nigger calling other people absent parents
Ironic
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>>736628418
>parents never bought me games after the tender age of 8
>as I got money I eventually built a battlestation room that looks like straight out of an AVGN episode
>didn’t even occur to me before a coworker pointed it out that I might be compensating for childhood trauma
I’m in Japan buying games I’d need to import rn.
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>>736629658
Why did that post hurt your feelings? You're not a trancel are you?
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>>736628418
>buy broken Switch for cheap on ebay
>crush it up
>make social media post about your evil parents for clicks
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>>736630602
I dunno about other people, but my mom was mad i failed classes at the end of the school year.
She did take them away before but I would just go find it and play it.
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>>736630495
Where tf do you live? Brownberg, Favelastan?
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>>736630597
Maybe it was acquired illicitly?
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>>736630605
I think insecurity is a big factor at play here. Kids are gonna be little shits and do things they're not supposed to do, that's just something that comes with parenting, but to these people they see their child misbehaving or breaking a rule and they think they've completely failed as parents and over correct in the most damaging way they can think of.
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>>736630447
I remember thinking this as a 9 year old feeling my brain burning trying to figure out how to make an XOR in minecraft without the internet, my dad yelling at me to stop playing videogames when he'd been watching football seemingly all day.
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>>736630605
You would need to teach the kid why the rule is in place, and also continue to enforce it. Again if it was having a clear negative effect on them that I could see then I would need to make them aware of that and also continue to enforce that rule. If you don't have a good reason for the rule then you probably shouldn't have the rule in place to begin with. This is basic shit that you'd know if your parents raised you well themselves.

>>736630678
>having clear rules and consequences is being a nigger to you
Wrongo.
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>>736630854
>Acting like an escaped ape is being a nigger
Correct. Your kids will still per capitamaxx btw
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>>736630832
>Japanese kid
>More likely to steal a switch than just get an after school job and buy one
How brown ru
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>>736630954
How is taking something your kid isn't supposed to have being an escaped ape? I said I would not break it myself but sell it instead and spend the money on something symbolic to enforce the lesson. If your kid had something they knew they weren't supposed to, would your solution be to just let them have it? That's actual nigger behavior because you just don't care about your kids at that point.
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>>736630274
Shady Pines, Ma!
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I played wow 10+ hours a day every day for like 5 years straight but my parents never did anything about it
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>>736630796
East euro, my country is still somewhat new to the whole "personal property" idea. Things in a household belong to the adults in the household, children can use them at their permission, but can't own them.
But there's also a law against negligent parenting, so parents have to provide each child with the "basic needs".
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>>736628418
>my parents finally dound it
did this person steal it or something?
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>>736631201
>it's not illegal for me to chimp out and break my kid's stuff, so that means it's morally just
Motherfucker, if you only behave like a decent human being when you're legally obligated to, then you're not a decent human being at all, you're just a narcissistic piece of shit, and any kids you have are going to cut you loose as soon as they can. Hope you like dying alone.
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>>736631337
Is it moral to let your kids have something that is harming them because they don't know any better and you're too spineless to take it away?
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>>736631337
did you respond to the wrong perosn...
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>>736631045
Children can't legally work so if the person in op bought it from his own income, he's not really "a kid". And if he's too young and did some undocumented work that pays in cash, that's still illicit (though mostly on the employer's part).
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>>736628418
They bought video games for us, but were very strict with the time allowed on them, often as little as a single hour or half hour a week if all chores were done, behavior was perfect, and all schoolwork was done. We did not finish many games. But there were plenty we did. Dad played sometimes, Mom did not and was strictly against all FPS games. Couldn't sign up for anything that required an email either because they said it was a virus.
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>>736629589
good
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>>736631416
You realize that there are options besides "be a meek doormat" and "be a raging asshole", don't you? Of course you don't, everything has to be one way or another with you. Please, please never reproduce.
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Yeah, but i was always outside too
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>>736628962
based dad
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Mama mia
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>>736629951
>Namn
>Markerar
I'd kill myself too.
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>thread about retarded shit bad parents do
>tourists and trolls alike flood in to claim it's a good thing

>>736631083
>I'm going to take your property and sell it to buy myself something and this will teach you a lesson
Yeah, that modern parents are abusive cunts who revel in giving their offspring multiple mental issues then attack and insult them for having the issues they gave them. It's a wonder patricide isn't more common.
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>>736629303
Kek that's a devious prank but it seems like life isn't treating you too bad at least
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>>736628764
>want kids to grow up normal
>withhold them from an activity that 99.9% of children partake in
???
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>>736631510
I'm asking you if it's moral to let your kid keep having something if you see it is harming them. You can choose to be an asshole or not in the way that you do or don't let them keep having it, but I'm asking you explicitly whether or not you keep letting them have it if it's causing them harm.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HIS PARENTS ALREADY BROKE HIS DS LITE A MONTH EARLIER
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>>736631736
Is it moral to teach your kids that you can't be trusted to not chimp out at the slightest provocation?
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>>736629769
You can, but if the kid is constantly sneaking around and violating their parents trust you must show you aren't fucking around. Having the console vanishing for a couple of bucks doesnt show you are actually serious. Locking it up can work too but that runs the issue of the constant whining and begging to get it back.
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>>736631758
It seems there was a lot leading up to this event
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>>736630854
>You would need to teach the kid why the rule is in place, and also continue to enforce it
>If you don't have a good reason for the rule then you probably shouldn't have the rule in place to begin with
Yeah see this is actually reasonable, so I don't know why you're trying so hard to play defense for a nigger going apeshit on his kid's switch. And don't try to go "oh well you're punishing the kid in both cases so it's basically the same", if you broke the kid's arm instead would that still be basically the same because it all falls under the umbrella of punishment?
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>>736631736
>dis video gayme thingamabob is HARMING muh keed
>posted on /v/ - videogames
Go back.
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>>736631675
If they live under your house then they abide by your rules. The other half of that is that it's on you as a parent to make sure you make good rules that are in place for good reasons. If you have done that then the next step is you need to make sure those rules are enforced so your child has consistency growing up. You can keep pretending that having basic enforced rules is only for black people but you're likely just trying to convince yourself at this point.
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>>736631729
Also traumatize them by flipping out and destroying their things. Congratulations, now they won't trust you with anything.
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>>736631903
Funny how all the larpers (nobody believes that you're actually copying the mindset of baby boomers here, fuck off) claiming this also shill for multigenerational housing.
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>>736631878
guess this didn't work out
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>>736631843
It is moral to teach your kid that if you see something as harming them, you will make sure they don't have it and you will try to teach them why you feel it is harming them. I ask again if you think it is moral to let your kid keep having something that is clearly causing them harm. You will again refuse to answer this question directly.

>>736631884
I explained how there are situations where taking away videogames and having rules about not giving access to them can be reasonable, such as when their engagement with it is harmful to them in some way. I said that I would not destroy it because it is wasteful, but bare minimum if you think something is harmful then you should not let your kid have it.
People are malding hard about this for some reason.
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>>736629384
"""Parents""" who destroy expensive items to "prove a point" are low IQ beasts who also more than likely used the glorified child abuse of "blanket training" because "American Jesus will astrally project you into Hell if you touch one of your toys while in your blanket".

It's always those who say "Christ is King" on Twitter that do this shit.
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>>736628418
lmao like they let him have the trash shits fake everything on reddit is
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My dad didn't want me to play games where humans are killed. He gave up at some point though.
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>>736631675
A lot of people have a punitive mindset where they care more about punishing the kid than teaching them anything so they can revel in personal satisfaction.
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>>736631884
You don't know the entire situation there seems to be an implication that it was initially taken away due to poor grades and that instead of focusing their efforts on earning these things back the right way he decided to sneak around and do all this stuff behind their parents back, consistently. If the punishment is not working because the objects themselves are still around it's fair for the parents to show, yes they are actually serious, knock it the fuck off
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>>736629413
He will learn the sekrit techniques I did when I hid the GBA SP as a kid.
There are spaces on a property not visible to the window. Purchase a metal box (he can if he could afford a switch with a game) and a lock on a chain, then hide it under a grass tarp. Play it outside and charge it at the local library or via a battery pack.
If it's an apartment (Japan), then find a place nearby and hide it underneath a garbage can, covered with dirt and marked with an electrical hazard symbol. Put it in a small waterproof pouch to ensure nothing happens to it. Play it at the park or in the woods. Hike up a fuckin mountain side and play it by a shrine while talking to the local deity.
Countryside? No problem. Less people to find your box means you can stick it in the forest, mark a tree to not lose it.
You may think these are extreme, but I've done worse to hide handhelds. I think the worst it got was when I had to hide the plastic baggy it was in under a drainage grate as an emergency measure when my uncle came (believed Pokemon was devil worship) and set up a camera outside his motorhome that was coincidentally overlooking a hiding spot.
I've literally carved fucking rocks into bowl shapes to hide that little gray handheld. Still have it.
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Hands off cuckold parenting is why we have the tiktok generation
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>>736628418
>bought video console for the kid
>gets mad at him for using it
I'll never get this logic, my parents did this too with the psp. Why bought it in the first place? I didn't play games all day, back then I was a normal kid who plays outside while games is a morning weekend thing.
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>>736632030
This kid played a LOT of Splatoon. Smash too
would be playing 24/7 if he didn't have to go to school or there were times his parents werent home.
It was only a matter of time...

I wonder what he's gonna do now that he can't play anymore.
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>>736628418
>intentionally breaking an expensive device you bought for your kid just to prove a point
i'll never understand this logic. It's like throwing your money into a fire.
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>>736632408
>t.Troonllenial
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>>736631903
if you have to break things to get your kid to behave you've failed as a parent.
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>>736632103
I'm not going to keep arguing with a chimpanzee. You've made it clear that you shouldn't even be allowed within a hundred miles of any child. Have fun at Shady Pines.
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>>736632476
the money was already thrown into the fire when they bought it though. It wasn't an investment, you know
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>>736632118
And it's always those parents who ask "Why don't my kids ever visit anymore?"
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>>736632345
He needs fast internet though
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>>736632524
Who do you think raised the brainrot generation
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>>736632581
>gets asked a basic question
>backs out like a bitch
It's not a hard question. If you found that videogames were proving harmful to your kid, would you let your kid keep having them? I would say no. If videogames were not proving harmful to my kid, I would say yes they could keep having them. If I took them away I would not destroy it for the theatrics because that would be wasteful.
You would leave apparently because you are afraid of admitting you're wrong. Ironically black "father" behavior. Go get your milk and cigarettes, Leroy. I'm sure those kids didn't need you anyway.
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>>736632529
I wouldn't break things but if I thought it was doing harm to my child I would forbid them. Would you not do the same if you thought it was doing harm to your child? Would you just let your kid have things that you think are harming them?
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>>736632792
I wouldn't argue with that literal nigger that just wants to break shit infront of kids to get a power trip. Your reasons are clear and I don't see anything wrong with it. Very reasonable.
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>>736632792
>>736632863
>durr vidya gaymes are harmin muh keeds
So what are you going to hypothetically do if your hypothetical kid is "harmed' by having an aquarium?
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>>736632164
My parents were quite against me playing FPS games, I didn't really keep asking and didn't care about it that much, so I haven't really played one until I was age when it was reasonable for them to have an input on my media consumption and they never commented on it.
They also bought into the whole not allowed to have bad people as protagonists or show them in good light kind of thing so GTA was also explicitly forbidden. It didn't affect other games I played all that much though, it was moreso movies.
They didn't really object to war or violence in general though, so burning enemy soldiers alive was fine as long as it was a top down view.
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>>736632103
>for some reason
In general you are on a board that values personal property rights, for a medium that they fondly know from childhood. You would have to be genuinely mentally stunted to not understand this.
Regardless, nta but I would simply confiscate it until graduation if it was that severe, or at minimum until the end of the semester. I believe selling other people's things, even legal dependents, without permission, is morally wrong and too similar conceptually to destruction of it.
Rather than destructive methodology, I would prefer to set it far as a goal to work towards. Not everyone can force themselves to do something good for them without a carrot to work towards, and not all children see the potential high life they could live from a proper education as motivational.
And don't confiscate it only to hide it in the house. Bring it to work with you in your locker, put it in a safety deposit box or private storage locker. If he keeps buying new ones, turn off the wifi. He seemed to need multiplayer to have fun.
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shitty parent:
shitty parent, japan:
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Half of the anons here have a story about their parents selling their games for money. The thing is the act of selling them can very easily create a false dichotomy

The kid might assume you are using the money for drugs (many such cases in which this actually happens)
The kid might assume you're fucking broke and that their behavior of sneaking around constantly because they can't seem to limit themselves with the system around is ok
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>>736632792
Shady Pines.
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>>736632914
I don't see how having an aquarium would harm my kid but if it was harming them then I'd see why and if I couldn't remedy what was harmful about the possession then I would sooner deal with the annoyance of uninstalling an aquarium than I would see my child come to be harmed by it. How is that even a question? Did you think this one through before hitting "post"?

>>736632958
>In general you are on a board that values personal property rights, for a medium that they fondly know from childhood. You would have to be genuinely mentally stunted to not understand this.
I'm on a board where people cannot process a hypothetical and put themselves in the place of a guardian who sees something that was a good thing for them being harmful to their child. You can enjoy muh property rights and have nostalgia for a videogame and still be able to process a hypothetical situation. If you're not genuinely mentally stunted.
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>>736633153
>uninstalling an aquarium
With a baseball bat?
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>>736628418
based. a real parent should emulate those games for their kid as to not make them suffer with miserable fps and resolution.
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>>736628764
>>736629384
parents flipping their shit made me a liar and cheat in the first place
cant hold your tamper? good I will only tell you shit you want to hear from now on and do the exact opposite
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>>736633181
Why would I do that? It's very obvious that I'm the only one arguing for my points and replying to people on this side of the argument, and I have said many times that I would not destroy shit wastefully for the theatrics of it. Are you incapable of reading a reply chain?
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>>736632747
Ryback
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>rybitch
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>>736633285
>>736633153
>repeating the same phrase over and over like the autist who described doing an underwater weigh-in thing with his sister
You haven't once posited how a videogame can "harm" someone by the way.
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>>736628418
Why wouldn't they support my gaming addiction when that's the incentive for me to get a job in the first place?
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>>736633285
>Why would I do that?
Because you've already established that violence and force are your go-to solutions for every problem?
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>>736629658
>1%
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
(You)
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>>736632863
Setting boundaries and rules is fine but outright banning stuff completely is bad in the long run because then you aren't teach them self-control and basically telling them that they can't be trusted ever, all that leads to is them resenting you completely in the long run, chimping out and destroying their stuff will make them not respect you or any rules at all that will just make them rebel

A great parenting method is making sure that they understand there's a time for work and there's a time for play and that actions/choices have consequences.
>>736633271
Yeah all that does is makes kids more sneaky/better liars.
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>>736628697
>not wanting your kid to grow up a pedo troon groomer is bad now
ok?
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>>736632345
>Still have it.
proofs?
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>>736633285
I'm a random anon, not that one you replied to and as an impartial observer who had uncaring parents who let me do whatever I want without punishment I can say that my friends with mormon parents who took an active interest in their lives and had boundaries growing up universally seem like healthier people in general.

There's nothing more destructive to society than weak ineffectual pussy parents who don't tell their kid when they're doing something wrong and don't actively try to stop them from making mistakes. Being a wet blanket parent who lets their kid do whatever and uses love as an excuse when in reality it's just laziness and apathy are the worst
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>>736628418
as long as my grades were good, they didn't care what I did
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>>736633916
>mormons
>healthier
About the only evidence to your claims is you got psyop'd into be a fucking retard, but that could have happened even if you had parents that beat you for so much as breathing out of line.
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>>736634004
retard. i bet his mormon friends have wives.
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>>736633569
Kids can get obsessive about videogames and play them for many hours to the detriment of their studies, exercise, sleep, and personal relationships. This is not the case for most but if it was the case with my kid and just trying to limit his time was ineffective then I would remove his access to them and explain why, then we could work towards getting to a point where they could have them in a way that is not harmful. If they continued to try to gain access to them when I have forbidden it then I would continue to deny it to them until they have proven themselves better able to balance it with a healthy lifestyle. Adults struggle with videogame addiction, kids are going to be more susceptible and it's your job as a parent to make sure that sort of shit doesn't get out of hand. If it can come to a point where videogames are no longer harmful to him then I would not have a problem with him having them again.

>>736633601
I established that I would not break anything but I would not let my kid have something that harms him. Apparently taking something away to you must mean destroying it dramatically with a baseball bat just because someone else did it.

>>736633781
If the kid is young enough then they developmentally will not have that self control yet. Again I am not against videogames to a capacity where they are not harmful but the second they become that way it would not be right to let them continue having it in the manner they are experiencing it. I don't think we really disagree on much here honestly.
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>>736632732
I was under the impression internet cafes still existed in Japan
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>>736633916
thing is, there is a balance to parenting.

be too strict and they will rebel in extreme ways, be too passive they will think they can do anything without consequence.
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>>736633887
If this thread is still alive when I get home I will take a photo of that old wobbly silver thing. The game in it is either Megaman Battle Network 3 Blue or that crappy Bionicle tie in game with password saves, can't recall atm.
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>>736634153
Anon this entire argument started because you defended a guy breaking a thing. Yes you've said you wouldn't do it, but you still defended someone else doing it because it's punishment that shows there are consequences in this post
>>736629634 (I assume that's yours, it's what this reply chain is about)
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reminder that corporal punishment only works when your child is physically weaker than you

the instant they find out they're stronger than you and you overstep as a parent you will be beaten to with in an inch of your life and put in the cheapest nursing home if you even live that long.
they're your children not a pet.
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>>736631845
kids sneaking around to try to get something is quite normal behavior, but the whining and begging is 100% a parent issue, every kids i've seen that were like that had parents that either never cared about them or just the asshole trailer trash kind
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>>736634343
I defended enforcing boundaries that are set and by the third post and nearly every post after I explicitly said that I would not break things if I removed access to them because that would be wasteful for the sake of theatrics. I get that you don't want to read the entire reply chain but don't act like you did if you don't want to.
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>>736631878
Translation accuracy is the best thing to come out of the AI craze. I love being able to see what things people from around the world sperg out about.
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>>736634262
It's less about how strict you are and more about treating your kids as people and explaining to them why you do things or enforce certain rules. If you don't then they internalize that the only reason to follow rules is because you'll get angry if they don't, so once you're out of the picture or your authority wanes as they get older they don't see a reason to follow the rules anymore.
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>>736631083
>not destroying your possessions would actually mean I don’t care about you
Keep it up, anon. This is comedy gold.
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>>736634153
with young kids it is possible to set rules too by explaining to them in simple easy to understand terms that moderation is good, when a little kid is throwing a tantrum you don't yell you talk instead, being a voice of reason instead of emotion is how you get them to listen.

also, pretty much every console these days has in-built time limits and parental controls you can set up.
>>736634584
Yeah that's a super important thing to do, you really have to explain why those rules exist in the first place.
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>>736633153
I am not speaking for myself when I say that, because that was my first reply to you. I did hypothetically lay out the situation as well as how I would handle it. I don't think positing everything "harmful" as equal is helpful as to how a response should be constructed.
If they were doing cocaine, I would speak to them first, then attempt to work with legal avenues of treatment.
If they were overeating fatty foods, I would seek out weight loss methods and try to provide them healthy alternatives while trimming the amount of fatty foods brought in, and supporting them by also changing my diet so they won't be alone.
If they were addicted to cutting themselves, I would try to get them appropriate help and ask them why they are doing this, and yes, I would do my best to remove sharp objects from the home.
If they're playing 1000 hours of splatoon and failing every class, I would pursue the avenues I mentioned in the prior post.
None of these are the same response. And I still think destroying or selling it would be wrong.
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>>736628418
>lets just destroy something that cost 300 bucks and that i coughed up money for
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ITT: pussy faggots who are mad that their parents grounded them and can't handle the idea of a parent who places even the most sensible of hard boundaries
kek I bet you also shake your head when you see drooling ipad kiddies neglected by inattentive parents, huh? even though you're arguing that parents should never take things away from a kid when they turn out to cause unhealthy behaviors, which they can
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>>736631604
ONLY CHECKERS IS ALLOWED HERE! IN THIS HOUSE, CHECKERS IS A HERO! END OF STORY!
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>>736630838
Its still the same at 30. I go to my parents so my daughter can visit with them and my niece and my dad is just glued to the couch. Every 15 minutes he asks "are you guys hot in here?". The thermostat never goes over 70.
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>>736634904
nobody here is saying you can't ground your kid, midwit.
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>>736634584
>treating your kids as people and explaining to them why you do things
Pretty much how it should work, but seldom does.
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>>736634904
No one is saying that, they're saying don't annihilate their shit with a hammer because that's niggermonkey behavior
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>>736635127
read the thread again, some guy's having a meltdown about how all parents are power-trippers who break consoles like niggers lol
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>>736635227
Haha the nigger is pretending to be a new anon
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>>736628764
>Hobby/entertainment that's been mainstream for almost 50 years
>not normal
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>>736634519
Your entire premise is retarded anyway. If the kid managed to save up and buy the game himself, punishing him for playing games which you do not want him to do does nothing but punish his motivation and drive to make sure he conforms to higher authority. You're training your kid to be a bug or a cog in a machine, rather than a motivated actor. He's also likely going to grow up and become distant from you as a consequence of this type of shit.

Even if I didn't want my kid playing vidya, if he went out of his way to work and scrounge up cash to buy a 400-500 dollar console on his own i'd approve of his drive, and at most limit how long he can play to try and encourage his work ethic.
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>>736635171
most parents don't explain it correctly or just end up screaming or doing something stupid because they can't handle having their authority/logic challenged.

I used to know someone who got pissed off at even the slightest little question who'd get into a screaming fit if he didn't get his way.
>>736635561
Yeah if a kid has drive to earn their way up then you should encourage that, this anon has good advice.
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>>736634574
i mean thats what LLMs were originally meant for
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>>736628418
They were pretty chill about it as long as I did well in school
But they refused to buy me a console beyond the GBA I got from grandma and got really stubborn about buying a better PC for a few years, so I missed like 2006-2009 in gaming until I got older.
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>>736628764
You can lead a horse to water....
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>>736628764
They should have tried to conserve their culture instead of creating a low trust society that nobody wants to be part of then
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>>736630713
That might be why I buy so much crap I don't need since I grew up envying other kids that had all the toys and I had to make do by making cardboard cutouts because my parents wouldn't buy me shit
At least it got me into arts and crafts (which I now use to earn a living)
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>>736628418
i used to play video games with my dad, and he is an asshole.
your parents suck.
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>>736635171
i mean it's always just gonna be "so you do better in school"
but it's up the kid if that actually sticks or anything
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>>736636406
the real big brain move is to get them to play RPG's so they learn reading and math without realizing it.

you make learning fun and they won't even realize that they are learning those things in the first place.
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>>736636626
if theyre under like 6 years old maybe
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playing bideo games with my daughter is the best part of every day desu
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>>736636689
you say that but I learned alot from runescape like how stuff is processed/created and logistics and of course, scams and how to avoid them.
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>>736628418
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736576527/#736576527
the same three threads, every day. the same three threads.
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>>736636948
I wonder how much of these threads are botted?
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>>736634867
That's because you are a person who actually has the mental maturity to parent and be an adult. Smashing you're childrens toys and expecting them to learn something positive from that is prime trailer trash/third worlder logic that anyone abrest of their senses and mind can see is counterproductive.
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>>736628764
Says the 4chan user
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>>736632345
>>736628418
Holy fucking shit, some people's parents are absolutely mental. I' really glad mine weren't/aren't like this, but if they were and did this to my stuff, I would quite literally never talk to them again after I moved out.
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>>736637081
this, nobody on this website is well adjusted.
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>>736636305
I overbuy figures and when I was a kid I used to make cardboard and paper versions of characters too
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>>736636987
Most of them, obviously.
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>>736628764
My friends parents were like this. No TV, no video games, always taking her door off, basically trying to mold her into their ideal image of a good, normal girl. The second she was able to get into the dorms, she cut contact and hasn't spoken to them in over 10 years.
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>>736628418
They let me do it as long as I had nothing else they wanted me to do. They also knew how to just turn off the console if I was being a shit.
I think once my Grandfather threatened to throw the ps1 in the bin because i was still up playing in the middle of the night.
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>>736628418
Why are zealots like this? Why isn’t America entirely amish by now? I straight up suspect that these people think that technology is the work of the devil or something. They couldn’t even articulate their reason behind why they think it’s bad. It definitely is bad, but at least put some substance behind your logic. Please tell us your rationale if you are like this.
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>>736633271
This. This was my relationship with my dad who had a shitty teper tantrum constantly about minut things. I've learned to not really be honest with him because of that as his actions fucked me and my brother up
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>>736629634
It's fine to take away stuff temporarily, that happened to me too. But permanently breaking it WILL make the kid hate the parent for a long time, possibly for life, and won't accomplish anything useful.
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>>736637050
Might help that when I grew up, the one time my dad broke a disc it was an accident and he felt bad so he bought a replacement soon after. I remember every time I see that disc that he did that because he cared and did not mean to break my disc.
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>>736637198
I made a psudo doll house out of a shoe box and tiny bits of old carpet, tiny pastic tables from pizza boxes and used the few toys I had
to live in it.
>>736637318
actual psychopath behavior.
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They thought it was okay as long as my grades didn't slip. I didn't get in trouble with violence/drugs so it was the only metric for my vidya enjoyment.
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>>736637417
that's what my mum did the few times I misbehaved and we are on (relatively) good terms.
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dad got me into gaming and boughted a pc in the mid 90s which was retard expensive for his okay wage, plus the it dude at his steel mill gave us so many burnt cds of games and floppies of mdos games. From there he got us gba sp's, a few ps2s cause mom kept breaking them and 2 360's but we both had to work those off by doing various yard work around the neighborhood for cash
Idea was good in theory but once we started doing basic chores for a drug dealer who paid us $50 to take out his garbage and clean up dog poo inside his house the whole concept of working properly flew out the window and we bought so many fucking day 1 games
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holy shit anglo family ties are so fucking fragile
>mom and dad didn't let me play toys they bought me all day? I'm never talking to them again, except to smash up their life support when old or to trick them into going to an abusive nursing home
No wonder why they're always embroiled in lawsuits with each other or killing each other for insurance claims
absolutely wild
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>>736628418
Nope. I would only lose my things for months on end because "I knew what I did".
>I did not know what I did.
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>>736637721
nobody is saying that, dumb fuck.
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>>736637524
I had a little cardboard diorama made of a pasta box with a little "window" to see the pasta originally, and used it as a backdrop to play with hand drawn tracings of Pokemon from a library book, that I glued to popsicle sticks and used as puppets. I also made a "Bronze Lance" out of a coffee stir stick from mcdonalds and a piece of paper I colored green with pencil crayon. Bonus if you can guess what game that was for.
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>>736635561
This is what my parents did, basically. No system or computer I ever owned was actually bought by them, I worked and earned the money for it all. If it was an exceedingly large investment for a kid, such as a whole computer, they would give me credit so that I could buy the thing before it went out of stock or whatever, but I still had to work and pay them back, like you would a bank.
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>>736637417
>But permanently breaking it WILL make the kid hate the parent for a long time, possibly for life,
No it won't, if you hate your PARENT for LIFE for breaking a toy when you're a kid, you're messed up mentally

>>736637928
its exactly what very many are saying
the life support thing was one i read on the twitter thread, something about making their life support look like the switch
i can't keep track of all the fucked up shit people have said between there and the last thread and this thread
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>>736631462
They did a lot right, let's be honest. They didn't want you to end up like those sweaty retards who keep on sucking Activision/Microslop's cock, even when they keep shitting all over their faces.

And let's face it, having personal info in the net has always been an issue. Far more trouble than it's worth.
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>>736628418
My parents didn't support me for anything. My mom was constantly working and mostly ignored me. Only if I got a bad grade then she'd yell at me around bedtime when I would try to go to sleep.
My dad was an alcoholic. Constantly yelled at my mom while drunk and if he saw me I'd get hell too. I'd frequently come home and he'd have been in my room. Sometimes I'd find my entire bed tipped over for some reason. He'd sit in the dark sometimes and just say weird shit to me and stare me down.
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Honestly, I had a pretty good life, all things considered.

>did something to make my dad angry one day
>he comes into my room and takes my SNES controller and locks it in the cabinet
>have a second one
>for some reason, I tell him about it
>he appreciates my honesty and gives me back the SNES controller
>never have an issue again

Rest in peace, dad.
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>>736628418
this thread again
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>>736638195
breaking peoples stuff because they don't do what you want is cave man behavior.
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>>736638195
I'm certain that parents that would straight up break your belongings are totally normal and never did anything else ever
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>>736628764
>Be raging white nigger trash that destroys their kids toys
>they'll somehow grow up to be normal as a result
Sure thing cletus
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>>736638207
I never said I was resentful of them for it. We had a variety of games, at least one in every singleplayer genre I can think of, and I grew up to not use social media accounts or anything that needs a real name and isn't a gov't document.
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>>736628418
I didn't have retarded parents so no. My videogames are fine.
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>>736630025
You have a lower iq than this wigger trash it seems
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>>736637995
Yeah doing stuff like that is good for kids, making stuff out of other things helps encourage creativity.
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>destroying things you don't like is...le bad!!!!
The Enlightenment was the worst thing to happen to the human race
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Anyone else's parents send them shit like this once in a while?
This is after years of horrible spiteful parenting obviously, my sister gets them too, usually they're peppered with complaints about whichever one us she isn't texting
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>>736638846
We did lots of crafts like that. The ugly toilet paper doily angel I made back then still gets stuck on the top of the Christmas tree.
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>>736638962
Pretty grim situation, if you've given them a chance for you to let them in your life again and they've failed, you have every right to ignore
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>needing to hide things from you're family
My condolences for your shitty upbringing, anontachis.
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>>736629658
No one who troons out was getting any pussy, you're the last people who should call anyone else incels.
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>>736638195
>No it won't
NO IT WON'T?! My old man broke so much of my shit that I can no longer see him as anything but a savage animal. I get urges to kill him whenever he gets too close to him.

Not to mention he ditched my mother and had god knows how many hellspawn with all sorts of women.
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>>736638471
We're not talking about other things though, we're just talking about this. If they break your bones or put cigarette butts out on you or something that's another story entirely, but breaking toy because they've had it with you playing instead of doing what you're supposed to... if you hold a grudge over that forever then, I just don't even know what to say.
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>>736639106
Yeah I ignored. I'm 28 now and it's been like this since I was 20. My sister and I give her another choice, she exploits us for money, a place to stay, whatever else, starts doing drugs and stealing again, freaks out (Which in the case of my sister is especially bad since she has a young daughter who shouldn't be around that) and then we ask why we ever made the mistake.
And it's not like we're fuck ups either. We're both professionals who manage our lives well, own homes, don't do drugs, maintain positive social relationships, she's just deranged.
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I remember when I was a kid my dad's girlfriend searched my browser history and found the deranged fetish shit I was looking at on deviantart when I was 12 and he didn't care at all
He didn't tell me about this until I was a fully grown adult because by that point I was just a normal straight guy so it was funny
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>>736638953
>>destroying things you don't like is...le good!!!!
If everyone destroyed everything they didn't like, Earth would be nothing but asteroids and all life on it would be dead.
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>>736638953
by that logic murder and genocide are okay because it's people we don't like.
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>>736638962

a lot of shit parents can't comprehend that they were bad parents because that would actually require some introspection and the realization that you fucked up
I think usually it's because they think "well I never treated my kid like my parents treated me so I'm definitely better" even though they're still pretty shit at it
what i don't understand is people who grew up in good families not comprehending that other people can have really awful parents and their experience is not universal. I have seen other people talk about their shit childhoods and how their parent did some horrific and nasty shit and they just go "oh well it wasn't that bad" or "they made mistakes but they still love you!"

like what the fuck man haven't they ever read a story in their life where a parent is a bad person? there has to be millions of them out there
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>>736638987
I know a few people who did that actually.

another benefit to getting kids into crafting stuff is it's a hell of alot cheaper to build stuff then to buy expensive ass lego or toy sets
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>>736639328
yes?
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>>736638962
Yeah I get it from my dad after we fight. It's not because of horrible parenting but because I grew up to be a solitary person that doesn't talk to people unless I want something and he wants to keep talking to me about how China will take over the world in 2 more weeks or have me watch "get rich quick with AI 100% guarantee" youtube videos and gets annoyed when I give him the cold shoulder
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>>736628418
Never had it done to me but had to do this with my dad's amazon echo after turning off the electricity to fix a bathroom heater sent him on a tirade.
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>>736639154
this this this, one of my friends moms got a new boyfriend and the boyfriend treated my friend so bad that he literally admitted to me that he wanted to kill said boyfrind to the point of drawing pictures of stick men with the boyfriends name being hanged and tortured, as soon as his mother dumped his ass my friend became totally normal and less angry.
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>>736639284
It worked for the greatest civilizations on Earth
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>>736639398
We had lego too, but most was from garage sales. I think the most expensive one I had was a $20 medium sized Bionicle set, the Boxor.
Tons of crafts though, from egg carton bells to stars made of sticks from the trees outside. And a lot of origami, I can still fold any piece of palm sized paper into a lily. Or a little dinosaur.
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>>736639432
trailer trash spotted.
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>>736632593
>no, i have never heard of ebay before, why do you ask?
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>>736639372
Yeah to my mom's credit she was raised in a nightmare situation by a guy who committed basically every illegitimate thing you can think of (stolen valor, organized crime, treason, not kidding) and she's the only one of her siblings who neither died nor spent considerable time in prison. I'm not gonna act like she just came out of a vat crazy but at a certain point I just don't wanna deal with it anymore.
And speaking to the second part of your post, my mom believes in shit parents because she thinks my dad is one who manipulated me to hate her, I imagine most bad parents have some ass backwards reasoning like this.
>>736639436
I know that if you live with it it's annoying but that's at least a charming kind of retardation, granted if I knew the person it's coming from I'd probably be really annoyed
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>>736639586
based bionicle enjoyer.

but seriously, have you seen the price of lego lately? it costs like 15 dollars for a single lego person these days.
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>>736628418
Assuming that was from a kid, wouldn't the parents have bought it for him in the first place?
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>>736639556
oy vey.
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>>736629658
>Never has a 1% minority so successfully mind raped
3% of a population is all that is required for a successful revolution of an entire country btw.
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>>736628764
Single parent household here. My mom used to belt and whip me with cable if.i misbehaved at school(daily).
At one point when i was twelve or thirteen i cowered from the hit and got whiffed with the metal buckle instead of the belt
After that i started to resist physical punishment so anytime she tried to belt me, we would actually have a full on fistfight.
This continued probably for a year until i hit her really bad in the stomach and she couldn't breathe for a solid minute or two and the attempts at punishment just stopped.
I still live with my mom today, work night shifts at a local warehouse and have no friends, never had a gf either.

I don't really know psychologically what that does but i'm just very bad with people and often decide things with my spine instead of vetting them in any way which used to get me into a lot.of.trouble.
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>>736638962
my mom does that a lot as well. I don't wish any ill will on her, I just don't want to engage with her outside of times I have to like holidays
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>>736639672
Still have that Boxor, though the rubber bands have long rotted away and the foot pipe parts are loose. Still love Bionicle really.
But yeah Lego is unaffordable these days. I got a couple polybags as the first lego I got in years, because the local TRU was closing. They cost $5, down from almost 10, for a set that's a tiny amount of parts in a bag.
A set with a box the size of that $20 Boxor now costs over $42, sometimes more if it's something like Minecraft's sets. Worse quality plastic too.
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>>736639841
it gives you trust issues and makes you fearful if you ever speak out or try to open up someone will take advantage or hurt you.
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>>736638987
I remember making models out of craft paper, glue and duct tape, made a sick AT-ST with openable cockpit among others
Mom threw it in the trash one day
I should pick it back up, would be cheaper than Gunpla
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>be left handed
>mom one day spergs out, hits me with a stick on my hand if she caught me writing with my left hand
>really struggle writing with my right hand, hit me because my handwriting was considerably worse
>year later
>mom just stops doing this, doesn't care if I write with my left anymore, never hit me again but never apologized or explained herself

i think she was going through a really insane religious phase or something at the time, devi's left hand and all that shit
my handwriting is god awful now, i legitimately tried practicing and refining it but i just can never get better. I don't know why.
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>>736628418
I'm proud to say I wore my parents down. First was a gameboy for christmas, then a PS1 from my grandma, and it went from an hour on saturday to an hour a day to whenever the hell.

Of course now I recognize my parents were right about vidya and I've wasted an entire lifetime career's worth of time on games but I'm still proud of my stubbornness and persistence.

I won't let my kids play video games. I'm highly tempted to not even have electricity in the house at all.
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>>736640214
more parents should beat leftism out of their children desu
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>>736640337
same, I'm not putting a screen in front of my kids until they're at least in high school
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I am going to force my kid to respect pronouns and bow for black people so that when they rebel they become hardcore right (which was always the plan)

Then when im on my deathbed I will lmao and admit to them I was parenting with 7 layers of irony
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>>736640909
is that what they call proxies nowadays
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>>736628418
That kid is going to grow up to be a gacha junkie later
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>>736628418
my mom was a hardcore gamer and got me into it herself. my oldest warm fuzzy memory is playing as tails in sonic 2 co op with ma. she would later let me watch her play "mature" games like ffvii, resident evil, parasite eve, tomb raider before I got into those too. based mom
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>play games too much instead of studying
>mom threatens me with belt and hovers over me as I do my homework
>only actually hit me once with it
>felt so bad afterwards she was hyperapologetic about it to me
Luv me mum. Still giggle a few years back when she asked to be driven back from a party. She was drunk and started raving on timestop porn that she and my dad watched, "you know anon, those girls squealing is kinda annoying, but I guess its kinda hot anyway, maybe thats the way."
They let me play more and more games up as I grew up and even 12+ hours of games when I lost my job during COVID.
Now I live alone and I still game all the time, kinda wish they were a little more strict on my gametime since I'm pretty sure I have a light-moderate game/scree addiction these days.
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>>736639841
Also from a single parent household. Mom never beat me, but her mother was a straight up psychopath who beat her all the time. It basically lasted all the way up until she was old enough to actually defend herself properly, and the last time it happened, my mom told my grandmother that if she ever did that again, she was going to kill her in her sleep. Fun times. She cites shit like that as to why she never physically punished me.
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>>736639372
>I have seen other people talk about their shit childhoods and how their parent did some horrific and nasty shit and they just go "oh well it wasn't that bad" or "they made mistakes but they still love you!"
It's up to the person who lived it to forgive their parents (if they want to). My dad was basically a live-in bully that made me dread going home for years after he fell off the wagon, but as an adult, I recognize that he is mostly well intentioned, despite having a fucked combo of anxiety, addiction, and a complete lack of common sense.

My teen years were a hell that I'll probably never fully recover from, but I'm not holding on to any ill will. Just try to do the best with what I have.
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>>736640909
that could backfire very easily anon.
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>>736639841
Whatever color you are you're a nigger.
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>>736629460
Laptops have 3x the battery life of laptops from 2016 the fuck you going on about?
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>>736630060
Nerd
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>>736628418
>when your parents are snoydrones
chilling
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>>736640909
Lmao based
Kids always do the opposite of their parents
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>have immigrant parents back in the 90s
>they know jack shit about English let alone technology like video games and internet
>got away with playing whatever whenever I wanted and doing whatever technological shit on computers I can including downloading music and porn
>whenever they tried to punish me, circumvent them easily under their noses while pretending I was punished
>boasted about this and showed off to all my friends and basically became the coolest kid in school

>Fast forward 25 years later and now I'm still on 4chan today
Oh...
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>>736628418
They don't mind it
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>>736628764
>No fun = Normal
huh?
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>>736643356
I knew a kid just like you. If you're anything like him you're also a fucking piece of shit.
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instead of gatekeeping your child from developing any hobbies or interests have any of you considered actually being a good parent ever?
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>>736643594
If it's at the detriment of their school marks then yes.
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>>736640163
I used to grab a huge handful of bag twist ties (the little wire with paper on it you use to close bags of veggies) and made big dinosaur monsters and skeletons out of it, full on 3D creatures out of just tying together wires. Sometimes the T&T had bread bag ones that were wider and I'd use those to make wings. Get some of those and rev up your autism
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>muh grades
some kid getting a C+ in some random middle school class isn't going to turn him into a heroin addict.
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The best thing you're meant to actually do is ensure the kid develops good tastes and can spot bullshit so they don't get taken advantaged of by insurance companies by having him do a variety of pretty much everything from hiking to various games, to trips, and if you're feeling ballsy teach em danger by having them walk through shady neighborhoods.
Only 0.0009% of parents can accomplish this, the VAST VAST MAJORITY of them do not really pass down this sort of self-preservation/standards type of skill because they often don't understand em in the first place either.
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>>736628764
I hope those parents wanted to actually enjoy their retirement, because spiteful shit like this is how they end up abandoned in a home never getting visited or a chance to see their grandkids.
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>>736639925
I'm beyond mad fuck you.
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>>736628418
I remember my dad telling me that he preferred me playing video games than watching TV.
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>>736643356
But that sounds like a dream childhood? What went wrong?
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>>736630447
They're way past an age where their brain has any plasticity left. Most people live in a world where they're 25 forever, no matter how many years pass. If you were 25 in 1971 then it's going to be 1971 to you for the rest of your life. Changes in culture will not make sense and new memes (the actual ones, not the internet type) will be seen as strange and most likely stupid.
Internet stuff is still a fad to them and it will continue to be until they're finally all dead. I've had to teach old people - in a line of work where they should have interacted with computers regularly - what a scroll bar is and how to use it. People just aren't particularly adaptable past 30. Old dogs don't learn new tricks.
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>>736640909
Might work on a son, will not work on a daughter because all of her peers will be saying the same thing.
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>>736628418
>Did your parents support your video gaming habits as a kid
Support? No, my mom would buy me games and then belittle me for having them and would throw them away. In part because of that, and because she was a shit parent to all my siblings too, she died alone in a nursing home that she had to pay for with her own savings.
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>>736628418
that's not how you install homebrew my guy
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>>736628418
And then you have cases in Japan where 50 year olds won't take care of parents or won't even reclaim the body becasue of abuses like this.
Don't be an asshole to your kids and they will reciprocate.
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>>736638324
Remember, if you aren’t sure about having kids, don’t have them. Not everyone is made to pass on their genes.
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>stealth gaming addiction thread
I'm not going to fight the war you fags started



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