[Good News]A cheap Dark Souls imitation has failed
what did they expect
>Project BBQ died for thisWould have been just another nexon flop though
>Denuvo Deserved.
>>736633856it was a nioh clone though
>>736633856kill yourself
>>736633856i hope your whole family gets murder you pathetic subhuman
>>736633856Game was shilled pretty fucking hard. Looked like slop so pretty funny.
>>736634854typo or an indian? You decide.
>>736634935uh oh dogshit botw got mogged by crimson desertpretty funny, with a 6/10 mario movie follow up
>>736633856it wasnt a dark souls imitation though. it was actually a good game.
>>736634854chinkoid melty
I didnt even know it released.
Ai Limit won
>>736635135>iThat designates india/SEA
>>736635110still seething?
>>736633856It was fun, but anything DFO related is never gonna break out into popularity to the degree they want to, unless DFO gets something like anime adaption or some shit to get the normal people invested in what ultimately is a K-Slop IP
>>736634935On here? When?
>>736633856I dont play anime games
>young, white male on coverIt would have been a hit on Xbox 360.
>>736633856goodthrow it in the pile with Ninja Gaiden 4
It looks pretty good but not pretty good enough for the price. Should have done more aggressive sales.
>>736635110Cope status?
>>736635547Too bad. I would have loved to see a Battle Mage version of Khazan.
it was too hard>g-git gudno thanks i just wont play and laugh as it flops
>>736633856Combat is too floaty and a waiting game parryslop
>>736633856>Dark Souls imitationIt's a cheap imitation of Nioh, which itself i rather cheap too.
>>736637692How is it a waiting game?
>>736637654>Too hardWhut? I'm not even trying to be a git gud memer here the game wasn't really that hard. All the weapons are good and have broken shit you can use.
>>736637736your mom is cheap lmao
mfw when parryslop devs lose their job and are slowly tortured to death
>>736637778The only time it became that was some bosses that really liked to hang out of range. Those mage bosses were annoying. But outside of that you can and should keep the aggression up at all times. There's plenty of tools to do so.
>>736637805>bragging about completing a game that no one even cares aboutlmfao
>>736633856Alpha White Male protagonists are not popular anymore.
>>736634415BBQ got butchered for parts, the main successor is going to be the Genshin clone they're making
>>736633856This game was awesome though, I didn't get around to finishing it but the boss fights are fucking sick>mfw viper has a second phase>mfw viper uses his ultimate attack and the music cuts out
>>736637986Even those mage bosses are best played by closing the gap and pressuring them though. Only Reese can feel a bit like that if she has her shield up and is using certain attacks, and maybe phase 1 Ozma if you get really bad RNG with his AOE attacks.
>>736633856>unknown developer>make a new IP game in a genre that is completely dominated by brand recognition (SOULSlike)>zero marketing effort>slap on denuvoWhat do you mean nobody boughted?
>>736638323You can skip an entire phase with Bellerian if you're aggressive enough. It's great.
>>736633856Actually the cheap soulslike won. The expensive ones lost.
>poorfags desperately trying to sneak in denuvo as the reason for flops
Arissa and Khazan walk into a bar
all these soulsclones would be 10x more successful if they didn't have stupid names
>>736638690What should it be called?
Game was too hard and filtered me. I’ve finished all FromSoft games. Fuck them.
>>736633856Sounds like they should have made a game about the class that saved their original game in the first place. F Slayer (game) when?
>>736638543You're a brown ESL.
>>736635547DFO has had like 3 anime adaptions now.
>>736638543Khazan got kicked out
>>736638543[Sad news]
>>736638736On easy?
>>736635654>white maleHe is brown, though.
>>736633856This game was closer to Nioh than DS. I’m fucking mad too because it had some of the tightest combat in a modern ARPG. People here always warned me about Nexon but I guess I finally had to have my Nexon moment to truly realize how utterly bankrupt this company is. I’m fucking done with them. This a dame good game.
>>736633856>Khazan devs were publicly executed because you didnt buy their Nioh-likeOh... Nioh 3 was mid so there goes your redemption.
>>736642538Nioh 3 was legitimate dogshit and i'm mad how much of a downgrade it was after Nioh 2 and Ronin.Then they are charging more money for less dlc.
>>736633856Not every game needs a fucking sequel. Khazan is fine game
>>736639991I can't believe Khazan is actually fucking dead
>>736642816He is literally dead in the original timeline and the pot dudes mention that he is supposed to be dead when you collect them.
>>736635547>unless DFO gets something like anime adaptionIt already had two, one in 2009 and another in 2020.
>>736633856I dropped my first piece of equipment and uninstalled the demo.Diablo loot in a Soulslike is top 10 worst game design decision and Niohfags have blood on their hands for not speaking out against it.
Khazan was a third world-coded game DESU.
>>736637986You're either completely full of shit, or a massive pussy who played greatsword and did nothing but parry the entire game. I played through the game twice as both dual wield and spear and at no point in the game was I not rushing down whatever boss I was fighting like a coked up cheetah. Except Hismar. Fuck Hismar.
>>736643237Everyone loves Souls and loves Diablo. Put them together and all of a sudden, it's bad? Sounds like a cope for skill issue to me.
>>736638464what this
>>736633856At least we know why companies keep making the same games.
They should have made a battlemage game about conquering New York.
>>736634565>it was a clone of a clone of Dark Souls though
>>736643646AI limit
>>736633856a good game is:metroid vania + 3d + platforming + midair dashing ability + remnant2 itemization + dark souls combat + destiny2 minimalistic UI + stylized graphics + story and cutscenes kept to minimum was the game that?i arent think so. deserved failure.
>>736638464Game?
>>736644025https://store.steampowered.com/app/2407270/AI_LIMIT/
>>736643997thank
>>736643860you wish, soulsbab
>dev team wasn't firedSo sales were decent enough?Nice
>>736644149pathetic
>>736644149I like her small chest!
I remember when /v/ claimed it was the new GOTY... guess Korea gets gapes again.
>>736633856denuvo slop gets RAPED
This is a Japanese board.
>>736633856Made by coreans = unplayable garbage this has always been known. only Japanese games are good. and some chink ones.
>>736645526mainstream games are all slop like the jap-made code vein 2
>>736645659yeah code vein 1 was kino idk how they ruined 2 so much, japs becoming westernized is a big worry atm. very few sovlful games left. Tsukihime remains the most sovlful game of all time, wish we could go back to that doujinshi circle comiket era type games
>>736635615
>>736644894Yeah we know you like kids, you fucking pedophile!
>>736645743>code vein 1 was kinoLmao
>>7366461571 schizo is hard shilling?
>>736646967How do you know it’s just “one” guy hmmmmmm?
>>736647395What's the point of this image? You realize you don't need to jump through any hoops to spam the same thread on 4chan, right?
>>736633856>Game labels itself as a Soulslike>Game is too easy to be a Soulslike>Players are bad at everything so they think it's a Soulslike
>>736647668Khazan was unironically too hard for soulsfags and 70% of them got filtered by the third boss. Because you couldn't just grind to steamroll and you had limited resources from it being so early in the game and he was a boss with 4 phases and two healthbars.Soulfags are the most fake hardcore gamers on the planet when the ones that talk about how good they are at videogames for beating souls and then every single one of them is looking up a guide to find the strongest weapon and the best spot to grind experience so they can just brute force everything.
>>736647847The people you're referring to you are like third or fourth wave Souls fans, not the original people that started with DeS and DaS.
>>736647983DeS and DaS are easy as shit, and I'm a 100% sure you didn't even play the free demo of Khazan to know anything about it.
>>736633856I remember this game was the one who introduced a female version of its MC, made her very beautiful and sexy and then proceeded to half-ass the rest of it to the point where she had no speaking lines and cutscenes didn't play for her.If they hadn't half-assed that aspect I would've legitimately bought the game just for that.
>>736648081The kind of people that were originally playing DeS and DaS on release were the same kind of people that were playing PS2-era action games. It's funny that you mention the Khazan demo when I played the closed beta which was even harder than the public demo that came closer to release. I greatly enjoyed the game and it's sad that it didn't perform well enough but I wouldn't be surprised if they had unreasonable sales expectations.
>>736647668I mean according to the devs a ton of people got filtered by Viper, I think the one of the best things Khazan did is disprove the easy mode argument though, because Khazan had one and data showed people would rather drop the game than drop the difficulty.
>>736633856That sucks the game was good and wasn't the director just saying a week ago more content was coming? Oh well RIP.
>>736648643>data showed people would rather drop the game than drop the difficultyCasuals are too proud to play on Easy modes. Only actual kids bother to pick Easy. What you have to do is trick casuals by renaming the difficulties. Have Normal Hard and Insane instead of Easy Normal and Hard.
>>736648643It was funny that they had to change the difficulty names because elite hardcore gamers wouldnt play easy.Then at the same time they added an even harder difficulty
>>736646157Uh oh stinky!
>>736633856Patrick "Gamers are uneducated" Söderlund, who was part of Dice during Battlefield V era, recently became chairman of Nexon.He's gearing up to kill all the Maple Story slops and DFO slops. There's rumor that he hates gooner slops such as BA also
>>736648812Good. Fuck Nexon.
>>736633856Korean games are so soulless its crazy
>>736633856GO WOKE GO BROKE
>>736644149Looks like a 1 student unity project
>>736648804It was hilarious talking to these people when the game released.>AAAIIIIEEE this game is just artificial difficulty because I can't kill the third boss.>Then just drop the difficulty down.>AAAIIIIEEE NO i WOULD NEVER PLAY ON EASY.>Devs switch the names of the difficulties and now easy is called normal and normal is called hard.>Now those same people have no issue playing on the easiest diffiuclty.It's amazing how insecure your average Soulsfag is.
>>736633856AI Limit won
>>736646157I wonder how did the shill cope with the news.
>>736648950That's why it's SOVL while aaa slop fail agsin and again
>>736648950listen frog you can make any game look bad and thats what that webm attempts to convey (but the game is still ludo kino hidden gem 10/10)
>>736648950Graphics don't matter (unless of course it doesn't top tier 8K textures etc. etc. then it looks like a 1 star unity PS3 game)
>>736649347Whenever some fag on /v/ claims that a shitty looking tranime game where you self-insert as a girl is le heckin hidden gem I just assume that they have AGP and add the game to my ignore list.
>>736633856>cute autistic robot girl > boring huwite maleSimple as
>>736633856It's a Niohlike.A shame, I enjoyed the game. Guess they're going back to making MMO cashgrab slop.
>>736649453>where you self-insert as a girlyou don't roleplay, you insecure frognigger. You progress the story of the cute autistic robot
Between this and SoP, its clear the "Nioh-like with angry male protagonist" genre produces exceedingly high quality games, but doesn't drive sales. A shame.
>>736643860wuzanioh: Elden feathers of the Fallen lie Twice
I enjoyed it more than Nioh, but less than some other soulslikes like Code Vein.
>>736650252What did you like about CV because to me it was by far the worst soulslike since ds2
>>736650252I wanna how how someone managed to enjoy Code Vein, it was one of the most boring games I've ever played. The funnest part was the character creator and it was all downhill from there.
>>736647983>DeS and DaSLumping DaS together with DeS is second wave faggotry. Sorry but DaS was normieslop
>>736650407animefags will force them to play the most putrid pile of shit so long as it has an anime artstyle. They deserve bone cancer
>>736650295>>736650407Same, the game was insultingly easy as well
>>736644739east asia gets memed alot for being technocracy dystopia, but one thing that baffles me is that it is really hard to lay off entire teams or individuals. At least in Japan and Korea.Massive lay offs in the same way US tech companies do is practically unheard of unless they are in actual financial distress.I was explained it being as part of conservative/traditional mindset of treating company like a family. On one hand it means massive overtime, it's your "family" business, on other hand they won't fire you unless you are actual piece of shit dumb cunt.
I would have buyed a game featuring fmage.
>>736650295>>736650407I played it at a time when cringe anime dialogue looped back around to being endearing for me after a long time of it being annoying. Being able to shift builds on the fly (as long as you invest) was fun. I liked the characters. And the fact that the plot beats straight up copied Dark Souls 1 didn't bother me, I think the game would have been worse off if it didn't.
>>736642538>>736642638Luv me Nioh3, had a blast. never did bother playing the gookslop that is berserker though lmao! seethe faggots, SEETHE!
>>736650620Because the company is a feudal lord who's supposed to take care of it's serfs or something
>>736633856>Souls clone, but without the multiplayer elements that made Souls memorable >also Denuvo Shame, but predictable. My wives, Female Fighter and Witch deserve better.
>>736633856it didn't look like that bad of a game, but I had plenty of reasons to dislike and skip it.>project BBQ got canceled to move devs to work on Khazan>oversaturated genre, Khazan was a souls -trend chasing game over 5 years too later to the party>also a nioh copy (aka shitty "lootershooter" style rarity and looting system)>less appealing than most of it's competitionThe only people who played it were either extreme fans of Khazan or Souls Genre, or literally sponsored with a free key
>>736650481Youre in the website where Yotsuba-To as the mascot
>>736633856I tried the demo and thought visually it was neat, but the gameplay itself wasn't particularly fun or compelling.
>>736637692>Waiting gameOne deflect instantly puts any boss into a stagger state letting you start combo chains for huge damage none of the souls games allow for. In those you’d have to do a parry 3 times for 1 hit the. Your back to dodging for 30 seconds to a full minute before you can hit once in return.
>>736650717yeah pretty much this. Explains why you have to go "drinking" with your boss and such
>>736649160The impact this can have on sales is underrated. People recommended Dark Souls to their friends because they wanted to brag about doing good in a "really hardcore game" to their friends. Give these same people an actually difficult game that they're struggling with and they're not gonna advertise your game for you because they're getting filtered by the 3rd fucking boss.Fromsoft struck it big by pandering to casuals while making them feel hardcore. Khazan whiffed this aspect bad.
>>736637692There are no dedicated parry button though.
>>736650407Code Vein 1 was alright at the time for the novelty. AI Limit is more recent and is a genuinely fun anime Souls, though it doesn't have a character creator.
>>736650725>multiplayer is what made Souls memorablestfu delusional pvpfag
Based. Korea keeps losing.
>>736650620>>736650717>>736650819actually, us is the only country that allows at-will employment. Most countries don't even recognize it. You can't just fire someone because "boo hoo a single project failed"
>>736650830You have male friends and you choose to spend time with them? Lol, you must be one of those genetic failures I keep seeing. Are you in a relationship? I doubt, you seem to be a dud. Off to the incinerator dud.
>>736633856Go anti-woke go broke
>>736650407Hot uncensored hebe girls improved gameplay
>>736651103>forced to play as a m*leGame's woke as fuck
>>736651070Ummm, skill issue? You need to git gud. Guess "YOU DIED" huh? Only a real gamer would know otherwise. Maybe not so good at games huh? You have to play Dark Souls to prove you're a gamer. You won't? You must be bad at games then, unlike me who is a real gamer and beat Dark FRICKIN Souls, which by the way is a game only real gamers with skill can beat.
>>736651310Incinerator. Now.
>>736650946That explains why US is the richest, most successful and influential country in the world and everything else is a poverty-tier commie dystopia.
I almost feel bad for khazannies but they were obnoxious as fuck.
>>736647847>by the third boss. Because you couldn't just grind to steamroll and you had limited resources from it being so early in the gameSo it still severely limits you by the time you are at the 3rd boss? I can tell why this game flopped, oh and denuvo
>>736633856>denuvo
Why did code vein 2 fail?
shame it was an amazing game desu
>>736647847He won, but at what cost...
>>736651614You'd be obnoxious too if you played literally one of the all time greats of your favourite genre and it was completely ignored
>>736652171Came out when there was a lot more competition in the Soulslike market and it was a sequel to a pretty shit game.
>>736651614Were they? I almost never heard of them and they seemed to keep to their own threads. Maybe you just play shit games.
>>736652380Or maybe he's shit at games.
>anime slop game>unplayable jank>gets shilled on /v/>flopsevery time
>>736652419Well obviously he's crying about khazan.
>>736652380I know Khazan threads had occasional AI limit shitposting but not sure if it was the other way around too. The game seems to get a lot of hate for being from Nexon, having a high price tag and filtering people with denuvo despite it running smooth on old hardware.
>>736651614Not as obnoxious as Lies of P (literal) faggots
DNF Duel, now this... DFO just can't catch a break, huh? Nexon are so fucking dumb.
Well on the plus side Dual Wield got to be busted as fuck for the game’s whole lifespan and I’ll never have to worry about it getting nerfed now.
It's the hardest game I've ever played but also the fairest, if you got filtered you're a fag.
>another video game failed? PARTY TIME BROS
>>736652380There's a anti korea schizo that spammed threads trying to start epic game wars around similar games then started spamming images of the threads he spammed as proof that anyone likes Khazan is a tranny shill.
>>736652641His hitbox too fucking wide i cant dodge so i need to cheese it with guard
>>736652171>Why did code vein 2 fail?
>>736652171I mean it threw out everything from the first game’s plot if I’m remembering right.
>>736652380>>736646157
>>736652806every game has some retarded schizo on this dogshit board
>>736652753Anyone who complains about this probably has never played code vein
>>736652806>one mentally ill retard spamming threads represents the entire game's playerbaseMeanwhile you can go look up any of the actual non-bait Khazan threads and they're fairly civil.
>>736652860I complain about it and I played it, I also played god eater.
>>736633856Not a bad game, boughted it on sale but have yet to finish it, i just dont like how theres only like 3 weapons
>>736638490>as the reason for flopsIt is one of them you retard.If your game needs word of mouth because you lack marketing, brand-name, hype or anything like that then you'd better not put Denuvo on it so people can actually play your game and talk about it online. It's the free advertising you need.Even Lies of P could have sell better if they didn't put Denuvo on it.Gooks are too retarded to understand that Denuvo does not improve sales.
>>736638543I wanna see Khazan railing ArissaOr maybe getting railed by her would be more appropriate given the news I love both games
>>736649280He did his job and got his paycheck, so I doubt he cares.
>>736633856>Dark Souls imitationMaybe you should play Dark Souls before calling every ARPG an imitation (you won't).
>>736652171Cencorship>b-butDon't care, didn't ask
>>736652171Just look at the game . Do you really need to ask?
>>736652915so you just want God eater 4
>>736652882I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who posted the screenshot is the same one who spammed those threads to be a falseflagging nigger.
>>736652932>could have sell betterthe whole third world pirating it wouldn't increase the sales at all
>>736652171- Censorship- Looking worse than Code Vein 1- Perform MUCH worse than Code Vein 1- Censorship
>>736653009No I dont, you seem to have a lot of trouble understanding that other people have different thoughts.
>>736643860Nioh is also a diablo clone
>>736652860I play code vein 1 and theres no single mention of it on code vein 2. I havent finish 2 though . I heard it was somehow connected to Scarlet Nexus but i dont care anymore.
>slap denuvo>dies>picrel removed denuvo>sale still going strongwhen will they learn?
>>736653115there was no way to follow up the story of the CV MC without further retcons and I doubt people would have enjoyed a new MC inside the barrier either.
>>736653203Lea is really fucking hot. I hope Dorothy is hot in the sequel.
>>736653095If word of mouth didn't matter publishers wouldn't blow millions in marketing.
>>736633856Here's hoping the cheap imitation actually becomes cheap now.
>>736633856Huh. I remember when everyone and their mom shilled this.
>>736653145So you didn't even notice the weapons of the first game are in CV2?>I heard it was somehow connected to Scarlet Nexus but i dont care anymore.early rumors claimed Shift works on it but it was the tales teams. They have the same producer however that seems to be everything. This is why they are thrown in the same bucket despite having not really anything in common other than being an action anime game. Some SN fangay anons shitpost CV threads but that's about it.
>>736633856>click bait>Expect a team to stay forever>fornite drops a bunch of people offNO FUCK WAY BRAH
>>736633856Man, they could've at least let Khazan fuck Elamein raw before dissolving.>>736653203I love Lies of P's records, it's such a neat addition to the game.
>>736653420Every corean game gets shilled here.
>>736653719Only if they're gachashit, made by a gachashit company, mmos, or live service trash. The same people spamming infinite threads for Crimson Desert or Stellar Blade were not doing the same for Khazan or Lies of P, because those people don't play real video games.
>>736653502CV1 Weapons connection dont mean shit
>>736635547>DFO will never be popularnigger, its literally bigger than cars and just under transformers.
>>736635547Maybe they should try a genre that isn't guaranteed DOA unless you have a Dragon Ball tier IP.
>>736653992Such as?
>>736654027RTS of course
>>736633856I played it with the offline activation shit from discord and thought the game was pretty goodIts more Nioh than dark souls and frankly felt more like AA production than AAA (dunno what was the budget).Whatever, game was ok
>>736653856The only good game gooks ever made barely got any threads here.
>>736633856The sales weren't even poor, they must have massively overspent on it somehow
>>736653884So its just in the same universe or is Khazan an npc on DFO or whats the relationship?
>>736654231the game is based on a canned MMO with the name project BBQ. It was literally impossible to cover the dev costs
>>736654360Prequel, thus "the first berserker", though khazan is wholly original, he is not referenced elsewhere as far as I know.
>>736654027Considering Stellar Blade's recent success, they should make a 2B-like with female slayer, or maybe Knight as the protagonist.
>>736654231Nexon has unlimited money and still finds a way to be stingy. I dont know how vindictus hasnt been killed yet when it certainly doesnt make as much money as DFO (I have to assume they dont want to give up korean marketshare to BDO, so they let it live), but they actually let the devs do a single player UE5 remake of the first season of vindictus, the thing is, those cheap faggots only let them do it using existing resources. So the team developing the new game are just a handful of people working on the current game, so they get two games out of each dev for the price of one.
>>736654360It's an alternate timeline set up by the main villain Hilder to experiment. In the main timeline Ozma is executed and makes a deal with death for revenge then he finds Khazan who is in the mountains dying and Ozma turns him into a ghost but Khazan refuses to team up with him and instead fucks off and uses his ghost power to curse random people and make them berserkers. Ozma destroys the kingdom then gets sealed away by the church.Hilder decided to see what happens if things were different so she took some of Ozma's chaos power and gave it to him when he was alive in this new timeline and things start to play out different like Ozma controlling the empire and Khazan doesn't die in the mountains. The moon literally turns into an eye in this timeline to show that Hilder is watching.
She filtered millions
>>736633856>dev team dissolved>no one left to remove denuvo>nexon will have to keep paying the monthly denuvo fee otherwise denuvo will brick the game for legit owners
>>736633856Aw.
>>736652860I beat the first one, even did all the dlcs, I don’t care much for God Eater but I thought it was a cool connection.
I like all souls game except sekiro, I dont like lies of p, I like wuchang fallen feathers. Will I like khazan?
>>736654182>felt more like AA productionDefinitely. Which is likely the reason it's not doing so well in sales — it should've been $40 game not $60 one.
>>736654890>I don't like Sekiro and Lies of PParrying is a big part of Khazan's combat so probably not.
>>736634565Closer to SOP
>>736654713As a seasoned dark souls player, I have to say this fight was artificial difficulty much like the others and proves this game was bad.
>>736654452Why did they make a mmo into souls clone?Surely p2w mmo would have made loads more shekels?
>>736655120I don't think they made the reason public but it's Nexon
>>736654459>>736654632Thank youI just assumed it wouldn't be that convoluted and he would be like a quest give in the DFO game or something like that>>736654713For me the wall was the deer boss, i think part of the problem was tryi9ng to learn the offensive deflect (cant recall the name) on that boss and it took many tries and i was barely able to improve on that mechanic, ended up mainly using parry for the rest of the game
>>736654459Isn't he the red ghost that slayers summon?
>>736655303Khazan is basically a plot device in the main game and is never some dude you hang out with. He was just the reason why Slayers had fucked up arms and soul benders summoned a little retarded version of him as an attack. It wasn't until the Ozma raid that he actually appeared for real as a boss fight which ends with Soul Benders sending him to hell because that class turned into the king of hell and ghosts.
>>736654940Its deflects are the parries, otherwise you just have a block and a perfect block. Same for dodging, but the deflect skill is hard to get on NG but gets noticeably easier on NG+ when you can get a skill that gives you more active frames to achieve it. One single deflect even on Ozma can rapidly change the tempo of a fight. You can shut down practically every boss with one single deflect, it’s so damn powerful.
Coolest bossfights of all soulslikesshame everything except the bossfights sucked
>necromancer game neverIt's not fucking fair! I want to hang out with my ghost butler and vomiting undead loli.
>>736650830There's another aspect to it for none-From soulslikes. If a From game is hard or jank or has new mechanics then "you need to git gud", "this is how it's supposed to be". But if a third party souls like isn't the simplest, easiest DS1 roll slop then it's "too hard" and "bad game design". People rarely even give games and their mechanics a chance in this genre. Only reason LoP got away with it was that the internet decided that it was honorary Fromsoft before it was even out.
>>736633856Nice.I'm more likely to buy it now that the cucks who made it are out of job.
>>736633856goddamn there's a lot of Korean jank on /v/ these days. playeda few of them and all their games are mid as fuck, like a decently produced jap title but without a hint of character or charm. starting to suspect the whole country is a slop factory.
>>736633856I still have no idea why i should ever want to play some chinese knockoff imitation instead of an actual Souls game>inb4 the combat is way deeper you fucking chud!Couldn't have been that good if it flopped that bad
>>736656037Because despite its appearance all of Fromsofts Souls games are pretty damn basic mechanically. It’s probably their greatest but quiet strength. You don’t need to be particularly dexterous to play them and given they’re all rpgs as well, you can just slam your head against a wall long enough to eventually over level or win through attrition. If they actually had mechanical checks and not just strict stat limits, it would be far less approachable.
>>736656570souls games are the ultimate hardcore gamer cred game for casuals. There are plenty of completely broken weapons you can get early if you google best weapon. Stats are significant enough that you can grind and trivialize anything. So when they say they are good at videogames because they beat souls games they are actually saying I went and got the drake sword and grinded to level 200 so I can roll in havels and the strongest attacks in the game do 5% of my healthbar.
>>736656747>the drake swordYou mean the weapon that becomes completely useless 10 minutes after you get it?Khazakistan last berserker fans are so fucking retarded lmao
>>736656747you can just summon someone and the games become significantly easier
I genuinely think Khazan was too hard for most people.On it's surface it looked like a stylish souls like, but it's closer to Nioh or Castlevania or something where you need to really plan out how you approach an encounter. Ranged mobs assfuck you with no remorse, instakill ledges exist, and the mobs that will randomly re-frenzy later become absolute nightmares if you try to pull back to use items or whatnot. Boss fights are fun, but they're like 5% of the game's content and are very level/gear dependent.And then, after you unlock the boss rush modes and gear stops mattering, the game does a complete 180 and becomes a hyper-focused action game like Sekiro or DMC. Literally every single tiny movement and action matters, there's complex animation cancelling, micro optimizations like breaking lockon to early/late hit, learning different block tiers/timings, all mechanics that you just don't encounter in the normal game.Like fuck, Greatsword goes from playing like in Monster Hunter to a Berserk musou where you literally never stop attacking because the counterstrike spirit skill can be used WHILE ATTACKING, a mechanic that just doesn't happen in a first playthrough because of the stamina/spirit problems.It's insane that the boss rush modes are a balanced effort between maximizing damage and survivability while managing stamina and spirit with the bosses' stagger bars, but the base game just... feels like a slog. They needed levels to be like 80% elites, 10% trash, a mid boss, and an end boss. The final boss having 3 phases for the true ending was brilliant but the entire game needed to be like that.
Used prices for this game are ridiculous, for a flop.What the dog
>>736656884It's on par with dmc4 for the highest skill expression in a videogame out there.
>>736654231nexon is one of the earliest game companies to make billions year over year. it's like when ubisoft flops but still makes like 40 million.
>>736656884>I genuinely think Khazan was too hard for most people.Did people not see the easy mode, or did they just refuse to use it?
>>736657062>did they just refuse to use itYes, people are more likely to drop a game than admit they're so bad they need to play on easy mode.
>>736633856But it was a good game
>>736657062Soulsfags convinced themselves that they are good at videogames. The game being too hard for them means there's a problem with the game not a problem with them being bad. They are skilled gamers that beat dark souls with summons and being overleveled so the average difficulty filtering them is impossible unless the game is broken.
>>736657062they had to rename easy to normal and add a new easy mode for the worst of the worst people but it was too late at this point
>>736657062>Did people not see the easy mode>"But when we looked at the data, we saw that many players just quit the game without ever changing the difficulty."They saw it.
>>736657062Khazan didn’t have an easy mode until close to a year after its initial launch. Meaning more people were getting filtered at Viper and quitting than anything else. Which in hindsight, probably for the best, Viper is a bit of a skill check, because if you can beat Viper the rest of the game is beatable.
>>736656985Glad you agree, I've watched videos of high level spear/DW gameplay and it reminds me of DMC4 combo videos back in the day, the micro optimization and control is unreal>>736657062It's not that, it's that the entire game is at odds with itself. Dropping 6 enemies in a hallway for you to mow through in 3 hits each is not the same skillset as chipping away at a boss with multiple combos, arena changes, elemental attacks, grabs, unblockable attacks, etc where even the biggest opening takes off 10% of their life. It is INTENSELY discouraging and for the wrong reasonsThe game should be MOSTLY boss fights/elite showdowns and leave trash for gimmicks or specific mechanics, the combat just doesnt work well for a souls style dungeon crawler that the designers wanted it to beAlso some gear absolutely deletes all semblance of challenge and that's not okay
>>736657163Viper was harder than the next 5 bosses that came after itThe difficulty curve of the game was fucked from inception. Like yeah no shit if you rise to the challenge the rest of the game is beatable as there's only 3 more challenging bosses in the game and one of them is the final boss.
>>736657163Viper was so peak i finished the game hoping to relive the hype of that fightsadly nothing lived up to that standard
>>736657252Maybe for you, I was stuck on Ozma for 6 hours before I finally beat him. Found out later I accidentally unlocked his harder variant with 3 phases. Simultaneously the worst and best fight of the game.
>>736654193>was meant to be an online gacha game>devs pivoted awaylook I really love troubleshooter, but the game has a lot of issues and isn't exactly the stellar example to point to of a game that isn't some mtx riddled monstrosity when that is exactly what it was originally going to be
>>736657252Maluka filtered people pretty hard too but at this point you were able to get the faster reflects which made him much easier if you used them
>>736657252If you didn't get hype from Maluca unzipping his edgy ass katana I don't even know what to say to youHismar was also pure spectacle and the elf witch turned me on
>>736657163Anon it launched with two difficulties, easy and normal, hardcore was added later and then they renamed normal to hard, easy to normal, and added a new easy mode for journalists.
>>736633856It was a nice 8/10 game, chaining combos was fucking satisfying. Wish it got DLCs or at least some new QoL.
>>736657252I think I was too good at the RPGing, I didn't have a ton of trouble with anything in the game really and I don't think I'm that goodI got the true ending and beat Ozma in one try even. I was waiting to see if there'd be DLC but it seems unlikely now so I will replay on the unlockable harder difficulty sometime this year, I loved the game, got all achievements etc
Good.
>>736657371I think Greatsword unironically became the best weapon as soon as Ghost Arm Block got 100% elemental negationSwitching up between brink guard, ghost arm, counterstrike, and deflect feels so cerebral and deliberate, a next step beyond Sekiro's back and forth style combat
Why do so many people hate this game? It seemed good to me.
>>736657332yeah i forgot he was pretty cool
>>736657517Someone astroturfed it for months as the nioh killer so randos are shitting on it
I actually liked that game
>>736657517its just dark souls with the exploration taken out, like most of these chink souls like. basically just a boss rush with short corridors in between each boss
>>736656884>>73665706290-95% of the deaths in Khazan are against bosses. Bosses here have Very meaty health bars so if you don't brink guard successfully most of the fight or successfully deflect a few times and or parry their red attacks - it's going to be a long fucking exhausting duel.Like it can be 10 minutes per boss attempt and then you die. The thing is the game doesn't push or really teach you about how important perfect guarding or parrying.
>>736633856Khazan is a Niohlike, not a Soulslike.
>>736638464None of the "high budget" soulslikes actually look high budget. Some of them might have high fidelity rendering tech but they don't like like they were high effort productions with art talent to fit their ambition. I don't know the actual numbers for production cost but you can take a guess by price of the game, marketing spend and whether the ~2 million sales all the clones get are considered a success or not. When put next to Elden Ring....>Khazan>LotF>MortalShell>Remnant>LiesofP>CodeVein>Thymesia>Jedi: Fallen Order>Death's Gambit>The Surge>Blasphemous>Nine Sols>Salt&Sanctuary>Rise of the Ronin>Stranger of Paradise>WuKong>WoLong>DingDong>BingBongALL of these have a similar vibe where they feel like Indie copies of a Fromsoft genre. So while I like a lot of those games, if they weren't made on moderate or indie level budgets then they're setting themselves up for failure. You have to be Elden Ring good to justify an Elden Ring budget
>>736657145That was hilarious
>>736656884the game felt so weirdly paced and awkwardly balancedI beat like 10 or something bosses (scalpel or whatever the wack spelling it had was the last) and I just didn't go to the next level, I beat a boss with a kino fight that did a cool funny fake out and just went cool, closed the game expecting that I would play more later and just never got to it.one of the big reasons for me was that I was playing dual wield and I did not really like it, I think I much would have preferred the greatsword but I felt too committed to DW to swap at that point, not because of gear or something, but the game simply expected a lot of me for fights and I had 0 desire to actually get to the next boss I need to slam my head into to learn mechanics AND need to learn the basics of the weapon I was trying to use, but I didn't want to put in the time to start over either.I don't think I particularly played it well, fights took so fucking long and any fight that wasn't basically 95% perfect you just died, it was incredibly punishing.I REALLY enjoyed what I played of it, but fuck me despite so little of it being bosses 70-80% of my time in the game was learning boss fights and regular enemies felt incredibly trivial
>>736657582You can mostly dodge, I didn't invest into guarding/parrying at all really, used greatsword with the dodge tree
>>736638464>>736644025>>736638543I like A.I Limit because it's a soulslike that copies the one aspect of Dark Souls 1 that no one else ever successfully copied, and that's the cool level design.
>>736638464AI Limit was much more kino than I thought it would be. I really liked how the story went, where in the end the 'big bads' literally couldn't lose. They had engineered a situation where even their defeat would be an intentional victory. It wasn't hopeless exactly, it was simply inevitable
>>736657502I enjoyed GS too but only once I got enough points and gear to make it strong. For the first playthrough or at least half of it spear is definitely the king. Fast, big range, easy to break stamina etc.
>>736657145Really? If anything they needed something between easy and normal. Normal bosses had way too much health, but on easy they did no damage so you were never in danger of dying. I ended up using easy for a boss and it just felt bad with how much easier it was. More games need difficulty sliders like Nine Sols had.
I Managed to beat Viper but man, fuck that boss. Need a specific cheese to beat him (like abusing the stunned stance)
>>736657705it has some set pieces but its still extremely linear. even the swamp really only has one direction to go at any one time
>chinese/korean "soulslike">static ass boss design with deflect slop and zero movement>markedly worse hitstun and hyperarmor system, missing several layers of build crafting >spells are just casted by having the player weapons disappear and use hands and work in complete isolation to melee combat as mere dps projectiles braindead to use and gained as "reward" instead of a legitimate playstyle with committal casting times and variety>retards on /v/ pretend it has deep combat because of context sensitive comboslopHappens every single time
>>736657763>More games need difficulty sliders like Nine Sols had.People always mock the visionary, but look who's laughing now!
>>736633856That's a cheap Nioh imitation though
>>736657680Deflect (parry) is OP as fuck>boss starts his 4 hit attack pattern>dodging allows you to evade 1 attack successfully, costs stamina, often can't punish the boss because 3 more hits>perfect guard allows you to null 1 attack, drains like 3% of the boss stamina, often can't punish the boss because 3 more hits>successful deflect breaks the entire 4 hit pattern, drains like 40% of the boss stamina and staggers it allowing you to chain a couple of combos for free
>>736657831Wasn't that one slider? Nine Sols had a separate slider for enemy health and enemy damage.
>>736657614>Nine SolsReally? The game made by like 15 people after a kickstarter for $400k doesn't feel high budget
>>736657930There are mods for that. Probably.Ahead of the time. Visionary. Innovator.
>>736633902>Copy [thing]>Get [thing]'s salesBasically.
>>736657614>hey feel like Indie copies of a Fromsoft genre>strangers of paradiseYou have a "bonfire" and there the similarities end
I liked that greatsword was just a monster hunter greatsword but better
>>736657371holy the game has such hot bitches?i may have to check it out
>>736656747Zweihander that you can get 5 minutes in and use with barely any str completely breaks ds1 the "hardest game ever" all other from games also have something similar
>>736658076Bloodborne doesn't
>>736658013Khazan's GS has one of the most satisfying GS/heavy weapon (that still feels like a heavy, large sword) gameplays ever
>>736657062I will rather admit defeat and quit than lower the difficulty
>>736658064Devs added an option to change your skin from canon male Khazan to female one lmao. It also breaks all the cutscenes and they don't play at all so only recommended for NG+
>>736633856Too animu for a dark souls game. How are you supposed to take the story seriously when you've got a half-naked gymrat incel running around doing epic press x to awesome combos.
seems like an excuse to do this like 2 years after launch.
>>736658013The animations look floaty and weightless though
>>736658013being better than MH GS isn't a high bar
Why are coreans incapable of making good fucking games?
>>736658321MH has THE best animations
>>736644149Can you create your own cunny in this game?
>>736658383You must be arissa unfortunatelyshe's not bad though I really like AI limitYou should check out doll's nest
>>736633856Is it common knowledge that Ben Starr voiced the main character? Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that his name along could carry a game's popularity at this point after his performances in FF16 and E33. People talk about how good Verso and Clive are, but I never hear anyone talk about Khazan.
Why do koreans insist on male player characters? Anyone who has ever played mmorpg's knows that 80% play as female toons and it's not like these gook pc's have any personality to justify a set mc
>>736658324matriarchal society and an obsession with gacha
>>736658324Lies of P is good
The only actual bad fight in the game was the dragon.
>>736658345but the gameplay is ass
>>736658503lol
>>736658503Nah its rollslop
>>736658516>we have Nergigante at home
>>736657972That was my point. None of them feel high budget and Khazan does not feel meaningfully higher production than Nine Sols. I thought Nine Sols was a better game with more visual polish and stronger artistic cohesionIt's 2026, nobody is impressed that you made a game in UE
>>736658516It almost made me quit
I just want Overkill to finally come out
>>736658602Shame Nine Sols combat is so fucking repetitive and then it kills all momentum with a gay ass stealth section that outstays its welcome
>>736658012Nah nah nahThis is fundamentally a soulslike. It does add lots of its own ideas and is a pretty cool game, but the bones this game was built on top of have a Fromsoft logo on them, just like Nioh
>>736658680More like Rusty Farts!
>>736658503Better than Khazan at least
>>736658683>stealthThis tiny mini-game section was so short and irrelevant that I forgot it even existed. Anyone who brings this up in their first sentence about the game probably got filtered by a 15 minute basic ass stealth segment
I still don't get why in almost every Khazan/AI Limit thread there's one retarded nigger trying to prove superiority of one over the other and start flame-wars. It's quite literally two cakes situation yet nigga still chimps out, at least he's more subtle now.
Khazan milkers
Khazan is anime but edgycool and gritty the plot is whatever the main point is gameplayAI limit is anime but cringe so tranime with the plot trying to be le serious and copying dark onions's >random lore note #329: zanzibart didn't forgive me... ahhh...
>>736658113doesn't look that good to me
>if there's stamina, it's a soulslike
>>736658712>This is fundamentally a soulslike.Souslike's use stamina for attacks, sprinting, dodging, and movement.There is no weapon type in DeS, DS1-3, or ER that provides the gameplay you displayed in your webm.Nioh is closer to a fromsoft souls game than SoP ever was and even then that series is 3x more complicated with just as many more inputs.
>>736658835engagement bait? It's not like a lot of anons even play the games anymore they shitpost about.
>pre-order bonus AND time-limited DLCsI'm glad it flopped.
>>736659019What the fuck is a time-limited DLC
>>736659036If you played the game between launch and a couple of months afterwards, you were entitled to some free cosmetic DLCs.
>>736659036Khazan has a few DLCs that you can't buy anymore
>>736659105>>736659125
>>736658951>There is no weapon type in DeS, DS1-3, or ER that provides the gameplay you displayed in your webm.Timed block deflects are a Sekiro mechanic which is available in ER via a physik. All of the core gameplay - Committed attack animations against a boss with readable startup and recovery animations that produce hitboxes in 3D space where you play a jigsaw timing game of fitting committed attack animations in boss recovery animations is all souls.
>>736659357>avoiding a hitbox was invented by Dark SoulsBASED
>>736633856Great, can studios finally make new original games trying out new ideas instead of another 99999th dark souls slop game?
>>736659425All possible ideas have already been done
>>736659416Wait until we tell you about interconnected maps and indirect storytelling being invented by dark souls too.
>>736659457but did they try turning those ideas into a roguelite deckbuilder??
>>736657517>It seemed good to me./v/ doesn't play video games they just watch other people play them and then play their multiplayer slop
>>736659531kek
>>736659416You can talk about how space invaders invented dodging attacks and hitting enemies in between their active hitboxes but nobody will believe that Nioh is copying Space Invaders
Khazan was so fucking fun. The only thing it needed was more enemy variety
>>736658948THAT'S NOT KHAZAN THAT'S BERSERK!!
>>736633856Deserved. Outside of CV1 Khazan is the worst soulslike I've ever played. It's just nonstop boring, repetitive combat slop. Soulslikes that don't respect the need of exploration and good level design deserve death. DS1 and BB are still the kings of the genre
>>736660325You're definitely trans and hate video games. Filtered.
>>736660325What about Demon souls...
>>736660350Projection>>736660370Just a worse DS1, it walked so DS1 could run. Also hate the level based structure. Even DS2 has better exploration.
>>736638464>posting AI slop
>>736660423fake fan detecteddemon souls is goated
>>736660461>fake fanSays the contrarian. There is literally not a single thing DeS does better than DS1.
>>736660539lolwatch the matthematosis video before you go into souls threads
>>736660578>gets his opinions from E-celebsProving my point
>>736660578>sloptubersI don't give a rats ass about fromsoft games but you're an idiot if you don't think they can't create a 6 hour breakdown video comparing shit to cake and telling you why eating shit is better for you.
>>736660578You don't actually like Demon's Souls you just want to appear to be hipster and edgy by pretending to like it. I'd genuinely question if you've even played it cause the way you post makes you sound like those zoomers that pretend to like old JRPGs while never having actually played them.
>>736660674>>736660672>>736660608baited hard
>>736660454I love my AIs slightly 'tarded
>>736660698>merely pretendingSure buddy. Demon's Souls contrarians are the worst fuckers in all of the Souls fandom. The only fuckers more insufferable than Nioh autists.
>>736660325>Khazan>soulslikeOh look, another retard
>>736660809>it's not a bad soulslike it's just a bad gameOk cool. I don't care.
>>736660031Fucking Netflix
>>736652860I played CV1 rather extensively, but CV2 looked boring so I didn't play it.
>>736652860CV1 was so shit I didn't even finish it. CV2 is better in every single way and a great game.
>>736659357>Committed attack animations against a boss with readable startup and recovery animationsThat's so comically vague that I can say that Castlevania Lament of Innocence did this before souls and would be 100% accurate
>>736659357>Committed attack animations against a boss with readable startup and recovery animations that produce hitboxes in 3D space where you play a jigsaw timing game of fitting committed attack animations in boss recovery animations is all souls.*is all MonHun. Ftfy. You're welcome btw.
Lies of P is still the best non Fromsoft Soulslike
>>736652171It looks ugly and the performance was questionableThe game mechanics are good though, plays well, build and gearing ideas are clever, story has weeby waifu shit in it but is otherwise well crafted. If you like the first game you should try the 2nd
>>736661098eeeh- i really don't agree.
>>736661098Correct. The only thing that gets annoying is how in love with the shortcut meme it is, you don't need every level to loop back to an old bonfire 10 times
Hopefully Lords of the Fallen 2 (3) and Mortal Shell 2 will be good. Shame about the EGS deal.
>>736661025nah, monhun has the building blocks of being a soulslike but their content design never leant into it properly. Monsters spend huge chunks of time doing shit all and it's obvious capcom initially intended for people to play around traps and flash bombs. They created content around a very large enemy which stops doing anything for large periods of time, and there's no attempt to make smaller enemies which actually interact with the combat system. The things the community eventually did with the game are an emergent novelty which looks cool in 30 second webms but isn't indicative of the actual game designYou can't make a soulslike with early monhun monster animation sets
>twitter thread>everybody saying it's good>https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2042014635814220187what went wrong
>>736661482
>>736661482Not enough marketing, NPCs getting filtered on bosses
>>736661249It's fine to be wrong>>736661331Lies of P's biggest issue is it being a bit too linear. Needs more inter level exploration with paths looping back into whole different areas you were in like 10 hours ago near the start of the game like the big elevator in Firelink or the clinic in Bloodborne. Also some optional areas.
>>736661542>nu-gamers have been so mindraped by open world, they can't stand the concept of video game levelsneat
this game appealed a lot to gamer dads that game for 3 hours per weekif it didn't have stamina it would be more popular
>>736633856it was great, not surprised considering the publisher is nexon though
>>736661639People like levels. They just don't like shit levels.
>>736654954It was literally the nioh filter boss. The first boss that actually checks if you know how to play the game
>>736661743And according to that tweet, a good level is only if it's integrated into an open world. Stay mindraped
>>736647847holy fucking TRUTH NUKE
>>736661758Impossible. I beat Dark Souls, nothing can filter me unless it's bad game design.
>>736661758I'm trying to think what those Nioh filter bosses were. Onryoki? Ogress? I hear a lot of people say it was the Yatsu-no-Kami in 2, but I spent more time getting my shit pushed in by Katsuie than the big snake, and he's closer towards the end of the game.
>>736661378The small monsters got noticeably less spotlight for how they affect fights with large monsters by basically removing them from the fight entirely. I can't tell you how much a difference it makes to have even a single of those paralyzing little shit bugs floating around waiting for just the right time to hit you out of an attack, or worse, actually paralyze you then BAM the big monster molly-wops you. Modern MonHun feels like it has no idea what to do with small monsters besides as container for specific parts or side quests.
>>736654632>The moon literally turns into an eye in this timeline to show that Hilder is watching.Neat. Is all this info from DFO or is it in one of the other endings?
>>736652171Shit designShit enemy diversityShit open worldShit character creatorShit performanceCode Vein 2 is to Code Vein 1 what Titanic Scion was to Daemon X MachinaA game designed front to back for people that didn't like the first one. Those people got what they wanted and what they wanted was a flop.
>>736662039Bat lady in 1 and big snake in 2
>>736662039Bandit Leader in Wo Long
>>736662039The first yokai you fight
>>736661101I'm so mad about Bamco crippling this game by making them copy Elden Ring with a fraction of the budget.
>>736662638>Bat ladyThe same one that has a level filled with anti-paralytic needles spread all over? With enemies that also cause paralyze so you know what it looks like? She's shockingly easy even in NG because the level basically gives you all you need to beat her.
>>736662573based irrational hater, they'll pay for not including your waifu
>>736662819You're forgetting that these people take 20+ attempts to beat a boss, so they give up because they run out of needles.
>>736662573are you seriously bitching about CV2 enemy variety when it's miles better than in the first game where 96% of the enemies share the same basis with tons of recycled moves?
>>736662965>y-you did NOT just go there! is that a hecking unapproved take???
>>736663072>I was merely pretending to be retarded
>>736662954Presumably the same kind of people say "you didn't beat the game" if you use items at all.
>>736653120So it's more like a pso1 clone.
>>736663241Why are soulsfags like that? I managed to talk a few of them into trying out shmups and each of them refused to use bombs, never made it past stage 1 without burning continues, and then ragequit.Why they think it's honorable to use continues but not bombs is a fucking enigma. Estus has rotted their minds.
>>736663382I don't use consumables in RPGs either, cause I'm not a fucking faggot
>>736633856koreans are just not good at making games, maybe they should apologize to japanese because their korean grandmas were whores and the japanese will teach them to make good games??
>>736635547nonsense if it had a female main character it would have sold 50% more in asian countriesthese fags have stopped buying anything that isnt anime girl. t-levels at an all time low. the 80s are over. its not looking much better in the west.
>>736662515It's in the notes you find in the true ending. The same day that the black moon appeared Ozma found Chaos Matter and the matter was in the shape on an eye. The guards that killed Ozma's wife were marked by an eye and looked mindless. Hilder's symbol is an eye and Ozma has a picture of the one she wears in his notes. None of this happens in the DFO timeline.In DFO Hilder is responsible for fucking things up but she does it by sending her fortune teller puppet to tell the emperor about a prophecy where he will be betrayed which leads him to executing Ozma and exiling Khazan and Reese kills herself after Ozma is executed.
>>736663556>dying in an RPG and not deleting your saveyou didn't beat the game, faggot.
>>736657820You didn't play Khazan at all I'm guessing given how wrong all of this is
>>736653203this bitch should have been your partner from the start of the DLC and you should have been able to do sick combo shit with her in outer world gameplay
>>736663614>consumable user got maduh oh casual melty
>>736662965He asked why people shit on it. I'm listing the reasons>miles better than in the first gameIt's flat out missing enemies from the first game>tons of recycled movesLiterally every single mook in this game across every single fucking area is 1 of 5 enemy types with a palette swapThe penultimate dungeon (both of them) also have fucking palette swap enemies lmao. It has worse problems with it's roster than the first fucking Nioh. They'd rather recycle the enemy that fucking explodes on death than put the beastmen in more than two fucking locations.
>>736661776It didn't say that though. Stay mindraped schizo.
>>736663693>loses 1000 tries to beat a game even DSP could beatuh oh casual melty
Unreal Engine sucks ass no wonder it failed
>>736663747>loses 1000 triesGood morning saar
>>736663780>zoom zoom never experienced arcades
>>736663750It was on UE4.
>>736633856I played through most of it up to the giant dragon boss.Game was honestly kinda ass to play, the levels themselves were easy, uninspired and boring. I think I died a total of maybe 2-3 times throughout the whole game to things that weren't bosses.Then you have the bosses themselves which are basically Elden Ring bosses on crack. Some are fun but others are a slog to prog through as you memorize their movelist.My biggest complaint is that the game is very fast paced and feels good, except it has a retarded dark souls stamina system to bog it down for absolutely no reason. Oh you blocked the boss's 300 hit combo and you can finally get a hit in? Have fun hitting it twice before backing off because otherwise you won't have stamina to block the next combo.
>>736663750Black Myth Wukong, Stellar Blade and Lies of P all ran on Unreal.
>>736663864Arcades are largely dead in the US, it's likely he's never even seen one. A shame, a lot of arcade design theory could do a lot to improve the current industries general incompetence.
>>736663864Of course he hasn't, he's a soulsfag whose never done the one life challenge. Probably doesn't even know what 1CC means either.
>>736654713Everything after viper mutated was 'oh shit what the fuck what the fuck is going on'; that perfect dancing on a knife edge sort of feeling.Damn good fight.
>>736663993Dark Legacy was literally better on console, as was the first Gauntlet>have your HP rapidly drain so you have to input quartersWe used to take turns seeing how far we could get in this game on one session (75 cents) at our local Cici's
>>736664091I played the PS2 version, since even when I was a kid arcades were already going the way of the dodo compared to home consoles and PC. Fun times, whether alone or with friends, I wish the 3D Gauntlets would come back. Sadly I wouldn't trust modern developers not to fuck it up somehow.
>>736664175>I wouldn't trust modern developers not to fuck it up somehow.They already did
>>736663940It barely takes any stamina to brink guard once and then the delay between attacks in pretty much every combo is enough time to recover all the stamina used and a bit more.
>>736664243Made by Arrowhead no less. Fucking Swedes.
>>736663382>he uses smart bombs
>>736664332brink guard doesn't cost any stamina from what I remember but if you miss your timing and regular guard or get hit you lose plenty of stamina. Even basic enemies can shit on you with combos. I remember respecing at some point in early game and slap all points into the attribute for stamina and it made the game more acceptable but all in all the stamina design is ass. Stamina becomes much less an issue once you know the enemies and get the timings especially the reflects but that can take a while NG run
>>736663613>In DFO Hilder is responsible for fucking things up but she does it by sending her fortune teller puppet to tell the emperor about a prophecy where he will be betrayed which leads him to executing Ozma and exiling Khazan and Reese kills herself after Ozma is executed.Doesn't this also happen in this game's timeline, Iris shows up and tells the paranoid emperor that Ozma and Khazan who became heroes after killing the berserk dragon were going to usurp him, which leads to Khazan being imprisoned and then carted away with his tendons cut and Ozma having his eyes scooped out, it just plays out a differently after that point in this timeline.>>736663567It's because of peak tfw no gf
>>736663556Desu bombs in shmups are good learning tools. They're not infinitely farmable like in RPGs so they can't carry you through the game, they give you a breather which helps your brain subconsciously analyze what happened, and they're not instant I win buttons since enemies are plenty enough and bosses have enough health for even consecutive bombs to matter.Compare this to Dark Souls which is such a casual game that it hands you free summons that can automatically win entire boss fights for you, lets you farm levels to statcheck all bosses, etc. They're just not comparable.Shmup bombs aren't something a respectable veteran would use, but newbs aren't respectable veterans yet. It's okay for their little brains to admit defeat here and there so they can move on to the next areas.
>>736664747Yes the prophecy is delivered and Ozma finds an eye drawn on it. But instead of being executed he convinces the emperor to only get rid of Khazan and let him do his experiments since the prophecy mentions wolves so if you get rid of one wolf there are no longer wolves
So now that both Soulslikes (Khazan, Code Vein 2) and character action (Ninja Gaiden 4, Lost Soul Aside) are flopping hard, what's next for the "hitting people with sword" genre. Just open world slop?
>>736665217Make crimson desert likes with weird ass fucking control schemesI'm fucking sick of every action game having only 2.5 offensive buttons and the "complexity" is watching the boss do choreographed ballet I don't fucking care if this filters the normies.
>>736665217Seems like it's just waifushit with these kinds of games mechanics attached and usually significantly easier to play and win (no complex bosses with hard timings you have to learn) so that average coomers can complete the content. The problem with these kinds of actually hardcore games is that they're just kind of niche and normies can't finish them even on normal difficulty. Same reason pure stealth games don't do so well even when they're really good games
>>736652271>>736652641God this fight was so fucking wild, that last phase was insane. I think for me Khazan is in my top 10 greatest video games ever list.
>>736648643That's why you don't name it easy, souls gamers hate choosing a difficultly option
>>736665428This tbdesu. I feel like AI Limit wouldn't be as praised if it wasn't so piss easy. The only remotely hard parts were maybe some of the Blader fights and the the fucking Spirit Depths. God I fucking hate Spirit Depths.Like don't get me wrong, it's a really good indie soulslike, but it's way too easy. Parry frames are just comical and if you somehow can't parry you can just thunderstep around the fuckers.
>>736638464Ai limit is BORING as hell and looks terrible.
>>736665912Oh and piercing claw lets you melt basically every boss in 40-60 seconds if you're using claws or dual wield weapons.
>>736665912AI Limit is good for what it is, which is a really low budget game that you can get for cheap.
>>736665912>thinking difficulty = qualityThis is why Khazan and other soulslike fail. Soulslikes should be about exploration first not le dying 100 times to a boss
>>736662819To be fair who uses consumables besides hp pills? Also are those resist or used when paralyzed?
>>736666124Not even From souls have been about exploration ever since their prepare to die marketing went off
>>736665912CV2 is also retarded easy by default so you have to deliberately limit yourself if you want it to be a videogame, but this is fine because the game makes it very easy to limit yourself without losing access to anything interesting. You just don't level up, don't upgrade weapons and don't upgrade the Estus very much. Levelling doesn't have anything to do with buildcraft and only makes generic numbers bigger so it's no big deal to play at level 1By default the game gives you like 15 fast full heals AND multiple free resurrects for a single fight that lasts about 1 minute
>>736666124AI Limit doesn't do it extremely well too. Sure it has some really good areas, but also a lot of pretty meh ones. Now to be fair compared to other soulslikes, who often have infinitely bigger budget, it is stellar. Doesn't really change the fact that it is in fact just too easy. It plays itself. Semi-void form kinda fixes it, but it makes early game just too annoying to make me want to run it more than once.Also Furnace of War leaves me kinda concerned with the direction they're going to take in their future DLCs and games since they REALLY aped up spectacle and attack spam on both Eirene and Prometheus. Shit was just too much, like I get since you can get stupidly overpowered in Furnace but holy fuck I hope they won't do this shit in the base game.
I dropped the game at jellyfish lady, second phase transition was just too punishing even after viper patch. From what I've seen on yt you had to be able to do perfect parry+perfect dodge+deflect+button mashing combos to take her hp fast enough. And summons are useless as they never help you past what you can normally do anyways in first phase
>>736657705 lmao
>>736633856>A fun game didn't sell well>this is good news to bitter God of War fans upset that their type of gameplay fell out of style
>>736658548And it did it good. Focused ongameplay/combat first with linear dungeons, summons easy mode that can carry you until the last 2 bosses, and simple story telling where you get the girl
>>736633856game is actually pretty amazing but i will never respect these devs after they added the option to play as a female mcembarrassingly desperate
>>736652603They will be forced to shut down the servers and you can't play it anymore
>>736634565Oh boy, here we go.
>>736638736It wasn't too hard for me, but I eventually got tired of the button-mashing. I've learned DMC-likes aren't for me. I unironically would rather wait for openings than sperg out on the controller
>>736667329>offline single player game>shut down serversOk fair publisher is Nexon but that doesn't make it an MMO or live service games all of the sudden
>>736653203They only dropped Denuvo because they pushed an update to the game not realizing they didn't re-implement Denuvo before shipping. They pushed a hotfix to re-enable it, but at that point it's too late lmao. They then dropped it shortly after when they realized it was pointless.
>>736633856>Denuvoslop dev team dissolvedGood.
>>736666246You use them when you're paralyzed to get out paralysis and it also removes any build up of paralysis on you. Generally better to just use when already paralyzed since it immediately lets you move again. There are a decent amount of items to use in Nioh even if a lot of them are really niche. Yokai water pots fuck with human enemies ability to regen ki, salt fucks up yokai ki bars, the ever powerful Scampuss fucks over anything, bombs and talismans are items that can be used by anyone until you have points in Ninjutsu and Onmyo trees respectively. It actually has a lot of items to use.
>>736670217I see, never thought you could use them when stunned
I enjoyed this game. I gotta do a ng+ run
>>736633856I honestly thought it looked kinda neat but refused to get it due to how much I hate Nexon.
>>736633856Didn't this sell quite a bit though?
>>736673051It sold around 500k or so, while for contrast Code Vein sold around 4m copies. It probably sounds like a lot for some small studio, but Khazan is funded by a pretty big company in Korea that owns the series Dungeon & Fighter which is apparently huge in South Korea. Not really sure what it is, but their main game Dungeon Fighter Online seems to have hundreds of millions of players.
>>736633856(You) don't realize how absurdly scummy Nexon is yet
Just wanted you all to know that I did this, it was literally my fault. I bought every From Software game and most Souls clones all the way until Elden Ring when I realised this formula has turned into dogshit rollslop with less and less of what made it originally good. So I stopped buying all of these games, with the only exception of Team Ninja's games which are the only ones I still enjoy.
>>736633856>BA>Parasite>Squid Game>Squid Game S2>Muik Bangs>K-Poop>Solo Leveling>Khazan <---you are hereAnother artifically astroturfered piece of gookslop to the list. I will keep adding until the retarded faggots learn how to market their shit without forcing it down my throat with blatant bots and shills.
>>736652171It failed because it took too fucking long to come out and because it doesn’t justify its existence. CV2 just barely improves the combat from 1 and doesn’t do anything particularly interesting with its open world. From a moment to moment aspect it’s a better game than CV1 but just fucking barely. Plus it treaded in its aesthetic from 1 to a sauceless open world that feels like a bore to navigate through. I had a fun time with the game but I could never recommend unless you are literally just roll slop enjoyer. Khazan on the other hand at least has combat that largely exceeds past most of its contemporaries and that includes Nioh.
>>736644149Pedophile Souls.
>>736652380Outside of like 2 schizos that were probably team ninja fags Khazan got very little fanfare on /v/. I know this because during that period I was constantly looking for threads and people just weren’t making any. It didn’t spark much interest here so people mostly just screamed gookslop. There were threads for it when it dropped but I couldn’t be in those to avoid spoilers.
>>736652860I don’t really care about the god eater memes but they could have easily retconned that while still keeping the lore from game 1. I don’t hate CV2’s story but like cmon senpai.
>>736633856Nipple getting cucked by N*xon again, who'da thunk?
