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>$80
>Game Key Card
I'm fucking pissed
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>>736636061

truly it was a tarnished edition
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Same price as Steam for both DLC and main game. Should've been 60 for both.
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>>736636061
but hey the switch 2 sales numbers heckin owned the snoys or something
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>>736636061
dropped
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>$80 for a keycard
and tendies will really cope about how nintendo isn't trying to kill physical
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>>736636184
Bandai Namco are the biggest kikes around. Even on the Steam sales they barely give any good discounts on 10+ year old games.
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>>736636061
I'll put it on my wish list and wait for it to hit half off.
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Nintendo really became the absolute worst gaming company in the past decade.
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>>736636340
Not defending KC in any capacity but what Nintendo developed game is KC? Because 99% of KC games are third parties.
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>>736636376
Ive been trying to get Sekiro more than half off forever. Miserable.
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>>736636061
>.to
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>snoygroids crying about nintendo
>again
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>>736636409
>99%
100%
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>>736636443
PC board
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>Bamco sets the price and decides to cheap out and use a key-card
>"AAAAAHHHH NINTENDO IS KILLING GAMES"
Nintendo does a lot of retarded shit, but NDS is genuinely a real thing nowadays.
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I'm suprised more people don't bitch about souls games and their ABYSMAL sales.
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>>736636061
I’m really still in disbelief that this version that’s been delayed due to frame rate issues is being called tarnished edition. And now the $80 price tag for a game key card lol
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>>736636409
pokopia is the first of many
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>>736636486
Why would PC fags cry about digital?
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>>736636538
>pokopia
3rd party game
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>>736636061
it's the same price on ps5 disgusting faggot snoy
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why would i pay $80 when i already have it on steam and own a deck?
i would consider double dipping for the convenance of having everything on one device, but not at that fucking price.
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>>736636493
nintendo chose to use cartridges over much cheaper discs for extra antipiracy security
they're absolutely in the wrong here, they'll make you pay for their mistakes
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>>736636502
sold more than Prime 4
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>>736636538
pokopia was done by the team that made dragon quest builders. it's not even published by nintendo in japan
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>>736636493
I have a hard time believing that it couldn’t fit on a 64gb cartridge. Another big publisher being a Jew and getting every cent they can at the detriment of the consumer. Game key cards are thankfully becoming less common but they’re still a problem in games that can fit on cartridge.
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>>736636538

not developed by nintendo
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>>736636609
the carts are fast enough to allow SSD needing games to play from cart
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>>736636547
no one is crying, it's fun to see nintendo tightening the noose on the only thing that consoles ever had over pc
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>>736636609
I don't think normal blu-ray discs would work too well on a handheld like the Switch
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>>736636412
I played cracked Sekiro on my 1060 high settings 60fps when it came out. No online component so who gives a shit
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>>736636061
Ooof Duskbloods will be a $80 GKC too
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I wouldn't expect Bamco to not cheap out.
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>>736636692
least obvious falseflagger
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>>736636687
that doesn't apply to keycards, you're getting the equivalent of a disc but now you're downloading everything off the internet
there are no benefits here

>>736636707
external reader
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>>736636829
different subject matter, those are for ownership and resale
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>>736636061
Into the trash
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>>736636829
>external reader
And that will help with the portability how?
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>>736636061
>$80 for plastic
>4 year old game
lmao
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fucking bamco
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>>736636881
>ownership
>of files you download off the internet

>>736636895
just install the files and require a disc validation like what keycards already do
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>>736636609
>nintendo chose to use cartridges over much cheaper discs for extra antipiracy security
Maybe on N64. I'm sure if you use that singular brain cell you have for a second you'll understand why using discs on a handheld is retarded
>but muh PSP
Yeah the format that they dropped and replaced with cartridges on its successor.
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>>736636824
>y-you're lying to me
you expect me to prove that i don't own a snoybox somehow?
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>>736636061
Based Bamco! Harada keeps owning the tendies even after retirement
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Snoystation doesn't even have a disc drive anymore, and you fags are crying over a fucking dongle.

This is the part where you go "b-but sony..." as if we don't know what motivates your shitflinging.
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>>736636980
>you'll understand why using discs on a handheld is retarded
see >>736636950
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>>736636061
It's $80 everywhere
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>>736636061
Harman Smith was right. Third parties are doing everything they possibly fan to sabotage Nintendo Switch 2 releases to steer players back onto the PlayStation Nation.
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>>736636638
not those sales you FUCKING trog. I meant discounts.
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>>736636409
It doesnt matter, nintendo chose to allow other devs to do this.
They even named the concept
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this is even worse than $80 mk world because at least that can be a cart.

it is an OLD PORT ffs
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>>736636950
>just install the files and require a disc validation like what keycards already do
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that key-card discs, that still take up all your storage and would require a separate reader to launch the games would be a better alternative to the key-cards we have now?
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>>736636061
Half the FPS should be half the price
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buy a game card so it doesn't take up install space
nintendo
>uhm, ACKTUALLLY
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>>736636376
DS2 and 3 are still in my wishlist because they refuse to give these decade old games a discount higher than 50%, while SteamDB teases me because the games used to go for way cheaper before.
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>>736637296
the choice would be between you having the disc with the game data and having to download it off the internet
there is no benefit to keycards, it's both physical and digital but worse
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>>736637452
Key-cards suck but I can safely say having to lug around an external disc drive would be an equally shitty option.
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>>736636061
>pay for console
>pay $80 for game key
>also pay for the internet to download said game
modern gaming is gay as shit
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Does it come with the DLC?
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>>736637575
Don’t forget electricity to charge the console, gas to drive to the store to pick your goycard, food to eat so you don’t die while playing…
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>>736637638
Yes. Still a 4 year old game with worse performance though. $60 would have been fine.
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>>736637638
Yes + 2 new classes
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>>736636409
Nintendo gave them the option and rigged their format availability and pricing to heavily incentivize them to pick it.
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>>736637638
Yes and half the fps. It's a bargain
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>>736637102
>>736637693
If the only option was proper physical carts, 3rd party devs would just make every game a code in the box or require 3/4 of the game to be downloaded, just like on the Switch 1. Devs will cheap out at every possible turn.
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>>736636061
Fromsoft knows Nintendo fans have deep pockets.
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Remember a few weeks ago when Nintendo said they were (((lowering))) the price of digital games? This is what they meant btw
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>game key card

Switch 2 will never be a serious platform if this keep happening.
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>>736637882
Yes the first party Nintendo IP, Elden Ring. Retard.
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>>736637882
If that's the case, why is the digital Steam version also $80?
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>>736637902
Man I want a Tekken collection
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>>736637882
So is Elden Ring now a Nintendo first party? Damn, I must hate it now
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>>736638006
Its affecting Nintendo releases by third parties too.
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>expected a FromSoftware game to be discounted
new here, huh?
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>>736638086
when was pokopia effected
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>>736636340
How is nintendo killing physical games when steam already did it decades ago?
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>>736636340
>says this when snoy makes you buy a disk drive for their system.
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>>736638086
No it isn’t
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>>736636061
>$80
That is the price of SOTE edition.
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>>736636061
I'm not pissed, I'm just disappointed. I won't be buying any more Nintendo products until further notice.
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>>736638196
Because now "physical" games that still exist are turning into glorified digital games.
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Millions of tendies defended and paid to see that dogshit Super Minions Galaxy movie. Don't act like niggercattle and be surprised when you get treated like niggercattle.
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>>736636412
You can just pirate it. The truth is you're just that interested in it.
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>$79.99
No thanks, I'll wait for it when it goes on sale. Apparently people forgot games go on sale sometimes
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>>736636493
nintendo introduced the keycard infrastructure to slowly kill physical, sort of like the only way to get any deals out of their online membership was to give up physical and only buy digital. things are only moving in one direction.
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>>736636376
they'd be cheaper if they hadn't wasted all that money on Unknown 9 and the Unknown 9 extended universe
need to make that back
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>>736636412
I thought I was the only one, kek. scamco are such faggots, especially when it comes to shitty animesloppa
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You should be used to getting gaped by now.
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>>736636061
>elden ring is $80 and a gkc
>007 first light got delayed on the switch 2 because it's switch 2 weak
not a great day for tendies, may tomorrow be better for them. i actually really like my switch 2 but the third party prospects are already becoming grim, wild.
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>>736638350
>he's still seething over the mario galaxy movie doing well
Poor baby
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>>736636061
>January 2027
It's over.
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you will buy it anyways
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>>736638664
Who is paying $80 for a game they've already played? Only hardcore Nintendo only gamers haven't played ER by now, that shit released FOUR years ago.
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>>736636061
Don't care, just release the new stuff on PC.
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>>736637452
but the disc reader would be required every time you boot the game, since they need proof that you own it. an external disc reader for a portable system at all times?
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>>736638580
I mean the game is from Amazon Studios. I never expected them to be able to optimize it
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>>736638502
is this why harada "retired"?
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I assume the "updates" will come to other platforms as well? probably gonna be the new classes/armor and shit like FSR/DLSS right
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>>736636061
>$80 for the base game and DLC, just like the other platforms.
>Not fully physical (DLC isn't on any disc version), just like the other platforms.
>Everyone treats this one like the spawn of satan because "MUH NINTENDO BAD"
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>>736638895
oh, it has all the DLC? huh
didn't know that
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>>736638828
NTA but just require the checks to be done weekly or something. Other gaming companies are already doing checks like that to see if you're validated to play your games, with small grace periods in case you're playing in offline mode.
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>>736636061
I don't give a shit about it being on a keycard or not, I only care about the new gear and DLC weapons being in the base game zones.
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>>736636692
>>736636486
Shut up and fuck off pcück
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>>736637575
they're passing the costs of storage down to you and yet I've seen retards defend it. fucking lemings the lot of them
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>>736636412
>>736638545
Sekiro was published by Activision, Bamco has nothing to do with it
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i dont care if it's a game key card
how does it run
it's 30fps 1080p or 40-60fps 720p like the 'eck
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>>736638895
>40 fps tops
>im expected to pay the same as PC and PS5
Nope, suck it
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>>736636061
>I'm fucking pissed
Nice, piss into my mouth anon :^O
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>>736636061
80 for a 5y old game, nice
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>>736639060
>40 fps tops
So basically the PS5 version
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>>736638895
Nintendo is held to a higher standard than the rest of the industry because the Wii going Blue Ocean stalled the rot the rest of the industry has been undergoing by a generation and so now that things are starting to get bad enough the illusion of Nintendo being special and above it all in regards to market practices is going away and the breaking of that illusion provides both whiplash and ammo for the console war.
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>>736638868
it's just another point on the graph with switch 2 versions getting delayed(er being one of those too), most likely because they can't launch with content parity like how cyberpunk, star wars outlaws, and asscreed shadows had to cull the number of npcs to get the games to run at a decent fps. to me, the switch 2 is for weeb games and nintendo exclusives so i can't say i truly care but it's still a bit disappointing to see so many delays this early.
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>>736638965
>Other gaming companies are already doing checks like that to see if you're validated to play your games
what? there's online checks for offline physical games?
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>>736638965
>NTA but just require the checks to be done weekly or something.
All things considered, you could just have GKC operate in the same fashion. The external disc reader would just be inferior.
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>>736638895
>Not fully physical
*not at all physical
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>>736639179
It's more for things like Game Pass and NSO, which check to see if you have an active subscription and then check again like a week later. I believe Denuvo does this as well. But it allows you to play the games you downloaded on Game Pass while in offline mode.
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>>736639301
oh, for digital games only. gotcha
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>>736636340
>>736637073
this proves snoypedos don't buy games
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>>736638965
>Needing a weekly online check to not have to use an external disc drive for you portable console
We're reaching Knork levels of ridiculousness here.
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>>736639356
DELETE THIS!
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>>736638204
both are true
consoles will lose their sole redeeming quality by the end of the next generation
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>>736639038
then why do they all have the same fuck ass stingy discounts
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>>736636061
>I-It's only Mario Kart that will be $80 you chud!
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>>736639356
you lost tendie cuck
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>>736639356
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>>736636376
What can you expect when a fanbase doesn’t stop jerking off about it for over a decade.
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>>736639501
>>736639504
>sale
Is this suppose to be an own?
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>>736639356
Nobody smart pays full price. I paid like $48 at launch for the base game and someone more patient that didn't care about playing on launch would have paid ~$35 during a sale. You get the port YEARS later and you pay full price? lol
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>>736639550
yes since Jewtendo doesn't do sales
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>>736639501
>it was 84.68 euros
wow, what a rip off at full price
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>>736639438
>then why do they all have the same fuck ass stingy discounts
Frankly Activision is just as bad, if not worse than Bamco when it comes to sales. Shit like Black Ops 2 has never gone lower that $20, and the DLC has never gone on sale as far as I can tell. A 14 year old game mind you.
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>>736639573
then how come i got cp2077 ultimate for 25 bucks
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>>736639596
well its the game + DLC
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>>736639573
>got Yoshi and the Mysterious Book physical for $40
gg
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>>736639356
What the fuck are you talking about retard?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=elden+ring+ps5&_sacat=0&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1
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>>736639573
?????????????
Nintendo doesn't own elden ring
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>>736639553
>You get the port YEARS later and you pay full price? lol
Nintendo fans are used to doing this, to be fair. The Wii U ports were all $60. Game of the Year editions used to be $60 with all the DLC included, times are changing for the worse.
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>>736639654
and you dont own you key card games
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>>736639637
>well its the game + DLC
Well if this thread is anything to go by, it's a dogshit deal
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>>736639356
Nobody pays full price for this shit. They might as well delist the games until there are sales.
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>games don't go on sale on switch
Retards really believe this lol
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>>736636340
Most Switch games sold online are a LOT more expensive than retail price. GKCs are no exception. You have to buy directly from a store in-person or from the developer’s website. These are scalped to hell and back otherwise.
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>>736639653
>snoys allergic to kino
No surprise there
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>>736636061
>I'm fucking pissed
I don't believe you OP
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>>736639105
what's the point of pointing out how old these games now if they are still look identical to everything else these days and are also better in gameplay
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>>736639754
>Most Switch games sold online are a LOT more expensive than retail price.
Where the hell are you buying your games from? DQ1+2 is less than $60 on Amazon for me.
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>>736639356
as you can see, it's okay when sony does it
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>>736639754
amazon begs to differ
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>>736639754
Walmart dot com is infested with third party scammers that trick dumb soccer moms and old people. Guarantee that doesn’t say “Sold and shipped by Walmart” further down the page.
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>>736639872
Because up until five minutes ago, games were expected to get much cheaper with time. Most game sales happen in a short window from launch. Only special cases like GTA V and MK8D are evergreen.
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>>736639754
"LOOK BRO ITS $80!!!"
>canada
This shit is getting old
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Why would I buy a console game that you don't even own? You're just renting it.
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>>736636061
Is tarnished edition only pretendo or will it be on everything?
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>>736640242
This is a switch thread, not a PS5 thread
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>>736640212
51th state.
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>>736640281
Switch exclusive, sorry snoy.
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>>736640308
You can't mod switch games, you can't make backups of them. you can't even play them on non-nintendo consoles. like all console games.

Imagine buying a game on steam in 2012 and the company decides that you can't play it anymore because you changed your motherboard. It's asinine.
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Bro the game is not good

Like seriously it’s just enemy spam. The graphics are dated as fuck now as well it looks like a fucking ps3 game
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>>736640390
I play on xbox tyvm. Will the new class be added to every version or is that reserved only for the tarnished edition?
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>>736640443
>im an xbot
Ah, should’ve known not a snoy because you used a based insult like pretendo.
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Seeing anti nintendo retards desperately making shit up just they can get a win will always be hilarious
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>>736640281
It'll probably end up coming to other platforms later on, like DQ11 S did
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>>736640443
Yeah, its coming to all versions. No word yet if it will be paid or free
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>>736640443
>Will the new class be added to every version
Most likely, yes. At the very least PC will mod it in but even on Xbox I expect it to be added in a later patch.
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>>736640406
>Imagine buying a game on steam in 2012 and the company decides that you can't play it anymore
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>>736636604
Well, don't?
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>>736640443
>rare xchad
>makes a sega Saturn reference
Based. Good thread.
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>>736640606
>can still boot up windows 7 and 8 and play the game without steam

Sounds like a skill issue f@m. Let's see you play your 3DS and WiiU games on the Switch.
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>>736640576
PC can’t mod shit from Switch 2 in. Still locked down with no exploits
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>>736640657
he specifically said "buying a game on steam"
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why are xbox players pretty chill and sonyfags such faggots?
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>>736640691
They can just recreate it. Don't underestimate modder autism.
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>>736638330
Ok but 20 years ago steam axed physical completely and all you get is digital, not even glorified digital, just digital.
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>>736640717
They lost two generations ago and have turned that resentment inward towards anger at Microsoft and pining for 2007-2010.
t. former xbot
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>>736640717
No one plays on it, the person above is a rare case especially on /v
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>>736640576
>>736640691
>>736640756
You niggers are retarded. They confirmed all the content was coming to all versions soon after they announced it.
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>>736636061
Is that the same price as the digital version?
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>>736640705
>buy game on steam
>still works decades later, regardless of OS

Again, skill issue.
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>>736640705
You don't buy games on Steam. You buy a digital permission slip to store them on your device and play them. All these digital storefronts can revoke access at any time.
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>>736636061
I already played this shit a few years ago. Why would I spend $80 to play on worse hardware? The open world poisoned the whole experience anyway.
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>>736641036
The open world is GOATd however
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>>736640406
>ownership is when you mod games and play them on other consoles
What are you even on about? shut the hell up nigga
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>>736641020
Two more weeks, right? ;)
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>>736641036
>Why would I spend $80 to play on worse hardware?
no one is forcing you to buy elden ring on switch
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>>736641083
>buy an SNES cart
>despite supposedly owning it, it doesn't work on any other hardware
>I HAVE To buy an old, dilapidated SNES just to keep playing my purchase, or buy some POS third party device that might destroy the cart
>if it ever wears down or breaks, I lose my purchase

versus

>have digital game
>play it on 10 different computers
>if one computer dies, just transfer it to another
>mod it, romhack it, play it the way I want
>reverse engineer it into a source port with extra goodies exclusive to PC
>but.... I can't resell it I guess?

Console games are just rentals.
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>>736641020
I played a game I bought on Steam 12 years ago and all my saves were still there because the cloud saves are free and permanent. That was 2 or 3 PCs ago. Nothing else really compares to Steam, it's by far the best gaming service.
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>>736641193
>buy an SNES cart
>own it

Versus

>buy a PC game
>don't own it
>but I can mod it.....i guess

Digital games are just complete scams. Pirate everything on PC and never give them a dime.
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>>736641193
>have digital game
You don't own the game. Steam can take it away from you whenever they feel like it.
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>>736641350
>>736641347
Well, when is steam gonna take my games from me?
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>>736641350
True. Steam has absolutely barbaric EULAs. They can take away games you paid for. Completely degenerate behavior.
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>>736641419
Some time a little after 2003 when they went fully digital. Good question.
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Valve had to admit in court that you're only buying licenses to the games.
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>>736641481
But I can sill play my games from 2012. If I didn't own them, I wouldn't be able to play them at my leisure.

When will Nintendo make the Switch compatible with my 3DS and WiiU purchases?
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>>736641419
When is nintendo going to take away my switch and my digital library since apparently I don't own anything and nintendo has a "history" of shutting down their download servers
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>>736641558
>If I didn't own them, I wouldn't be able to play them at my leisure.
Well that's false since you already don't own them yet you can play them at your leisure. Next time just pirate the games. There is no difference between a pirated and legally purchased PC game. You can't own them either way.

Remember what Gabe Newell said: piracy is a customer sevice issue.
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>>736641641
Good point.
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>>736637837
We should make that illegal then.
Everyone talks politics on /v/ so im advocating for literally making it illegal punishable by death.
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>>736641082
>you can either discover a cave that has one of a handful of reused minibosses or...
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>>736639501
>Its the base game with a dlc code.
Better than what switch is getting but still completely unacceptable.
Remember when these types of releases had ALL of the content on disc.
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>>736641347
Piracy is ownership however.
Infact piracy is the best form of ownership.
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>>736641592
You can't play them on modern Nintendo hardware. You already don't own them, unless Nintendo gives you all of your physical games for free, as digital downloads on modern consoles. Steam does that for me.

>>736641641
Since I can still play my games despite playing on 4 different computers, I'd say I own them more than your games, that stop working if they're not on special proprietary hardware.
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>>736641989
>>736641971
You can't own digital games, this isn't debatable, sorry.
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>>736636061
Does Nintendo really not sell these games with normal cartridges instead of key cards
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I don't understand what "game key cards" are. Is it just a blank cartridge that, when inserted, downloads the game to the console? So it's like a regular cartridge except worse in every possible way for the buyer?
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>>736642216
Then take them from me.
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>>736642342
I can't. You don't own anything.
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>>736636061
Play it on PC or Steamdeck. Much cheaper.
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>>736642432
The files on my computer beg to differ. Files that will outlast all of your physical games, by the way.
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>>736642216
You do own everything you pirate.
You can make more copys, give them away for free and theres no way of it being taken away from you.

Piracy is how you own digital games
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>>736642501
>The files on my computer beg to differ
No they don't.
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>>736642524
>You do own everything you pirate.
No you don't. You can't own digital media.
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>You don't own your switch console and games but you do own your steam library
jfc lol
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>>736642319
Correct
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>>736641801
>being reductive is my personality
get new material
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>not a single peep about duskbloods for over a year
>nintendo rolls out some ads for it in february but then nothing
>preorders for this randomly drop out of nowhere
seriously, what the fuck is nintendo doing? Is fromsoft trying to get out of switch exclusivity or something?
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>>736636376
I got Elden Ring for a good discount, but had to pay full price for the DLC since that never goes on sale. Still worth it though given how many hours I've sunk into it.
Just completed Ranni's quest line at rune level 1 and I feel on top of the world. Get fucked, Astel
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>>736642585
Who are you quoting?
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>>736636061
Yeah but what’s the release date??
I want to play through Elden ring again.
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If they end up charging even $15 for the new "content" for other platforms it's going to be some extreme jewry
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>>736636609
>extra antipiracy security
>still the most easily hacked and emulated consoles out there
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>>736642570
How do you not own a pirated game?
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>>736642531
The company can't take the games away, ever. My steam library still works on windows 8, and offline, and without the steam launcher. Your """games""" can't even be played on future nintendo consoles. Not unless you cough up extra cash lol

Funny, you should've just stuck with attacking steam, but you implied that all digital games are bad, which just completely destroyed your sad excuse of an argument.
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>>736636061
Tendies already shown they don't care about le ownership with Pokopia, even then it's going to be the worse version of the game on consoles.
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>>736642643
just play it, they're not adding any new areas or bosses or anything
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>>736642637
>>736641989
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>>736642670
It's not your legal property. Good question.
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>>736642216
>download GOG game
>or remove steamworks from your Steam game
>make a hard copy
It's that easy.
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>>736642684
Why are you arguing about this shit anyway, it's a service, but Switch games do work on Switch 2 tho
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>>736642717
Why didn't you reply to him then? Your behaviour is very confusing.
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I think you have to be fucking retarded to buy a console and games on said console at this point. 80 dollars for a cucked digital game that might not even be compatible with whatever Nintendo makes next
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>>736642790
So ONE console works on the switch 2, and you don't even get all the extra features unless you pay extra?
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>>736642750
Ownership means you have it and it cant be taken from you.
The concept of ownership predates civilisation. Civilisation was made because of the concept of ownership.
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>>736642684
>The company can't take the games away, ever. My steam library still works on windows 8, and offline, and without the steam launcher.
I know.
>Your """games""" can't even be played on future nintendo consoles. Not unless you cough up extra cash lol
That is correct.
>Funny, you should've just stuck with attacking steam, but you implied that all digital games are bad, which just completely destroyed your sad excuse of an argument.
I don't think so. Why are you getting overly emotional?
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>>736642627
>since that never goes on sale
It was like 32 dollars for 6 months straight from official key sellers and 28 bucks from official key sellers for a few days.
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>>736642769
You can't own digital media. It's impossible, not easy.
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>>736642825
Then nobody owns anything because government has the authority to seize your shit.
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>>736642824
Yeah, Nintendo is very greedy when it comes to that, and the extras aren't even worth the price anyway.

All of those companies just want your money, there's no "better" way to siphon you out of your pennies.
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>>736642861
I'm passionate about telling the truth. Seeing you spew falsehoods and misinformations is thus concerning.
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>>736642825
>Ownership means you have it and it cant be taken from you.
No it doesn't.
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How fucking underpowered is the Switch 2 that it can't hold 30 frames with this game? My potato ryzen 3 and 3gb vram gpu in 2022 could run it at 40-50
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>>736642905
Duh, that has happened before, most land is stolen land and no one really cares until it happens to them.
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>>736642905
That means the government own it.
Even communism has the concept of ownership, you arent allowed it but still someone does
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>>736642925
I haven't lied about anything. You have however.
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>>736642935
Yeah it does.
You can cope and seethe about it, but thats what ownership means
>I have thing
>I can defend thing and keep it in my possession.
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>>736642948
Correct. Therefore ownership doesn't mean "it can't be taken from you". Are you following or should I go slower for you?
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The only reason I buy physical is so that the company makes less profit.
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>>736643017
>Yeah it does.
No it doesn't.
>I have thing
>I can defend thing and keep it in my possession.
It's not your legal property. Sorry. That's just a fact.
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>>736642981
You haven't substantiated your claim about ownership. The files are on my computer, if I don't own them, then it would REALLY help your argument if you could explain how i don't own it.
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>>736636376
I got DS3 complete edition for $15, DS1R for $15, and DS2SFS for $10. I've seen Bloodborne complete edition go on sale for $10, though to be fair it never goes on that deep of a sale anymore.
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>>736643030
I'm not even the same anon you retard, even carts state that it's a license, I just don't know why people keep fighting over this shit as if the companies were their friends.
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I don't really replay games, so I don't give a fuck even if Gaben or Mitsubishi took away my old games. I already traded away almost all of my old games to Gamestop anyway.
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>>736642901
I'm overly cautious, so buying from a key seller aside from Steam itself never crossed my mind.
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>>736636412
Stop being so fucking poor, what the fuck
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>>736642901
What they don't tell you is that these are probably from each key sellers "premium service" (ie. gamivo pulls this alot)
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Hey remember when tendies pretended to believe that future Nintendo games would be $60 digital and $70 physical?
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>>736642825
>POWER means you have it and it cant be taken from you.
>The concept of POWER predates civilization.
>Civilization was made because of the concept of POWER.
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>>736642825
>Ownership means you have it and it cant be taken from you
The latter part would make such a definition impossible to satisfy. Ownership is an agreement between you and the rest of society.
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>>736643197
I'm not poor, I like saving my money and not spending it on bullshit that I don't have to buy.
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>>736643096
>You haven't substantiated your claim about ownership
It's not my claim. It's factual reality about digital media.
>The files are on my computer, if I don't own them, then it would REALLY help your argument if you could explain how i don't own it.
You don't own it because it's not your legal property. "Your" files are either illegal unlicensed duplicates, or authorized backups (GoG), neither of which are licensed, and therefore neither of which are your legal property.

You can just ask Gabe Newell in a tweet if you don't believe me. He'll tell you the exact same thing.
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>>736643094
>You have to buy something to own it
Incorrect, I own lots of rocks, theyre literally free, just like pirated games
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>>736636061
How much memory would this piece of shit game even take up? Shit is probably gigantic.
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>>736643282
>You don't own it because it's not your legal property. "Your" files are either illegal unlicensed duplicates, or authorized backups (GoG),
If I bought them, then they're authorized duplicates and backups.

>muh EULA
Doesn't hold up in actual first world countries.
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>>736643127
Do you know the two different license types of media? I can teach you a new thing if you want.
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>>736643080
Most based post I've read on /v/ in a long time.
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>>736642938
ER is badly optimized and full of quirks that make it stutter even with high end specs
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>>736643296
>>You have to buy something to own it
That's false. I would never say this.
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>>736637146
This is an actual problem because........?

Good old games are always great to revisit from time to time
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>>736643080
This but used games, especially Nintendo ones.
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>>736643263
If saving money ever crosses your mind, you are poor.
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>>736643372
Not interested, society sucks anyway
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>>736643364
>If I bought them, then they're authorized duplicates and backups
Still unlicensed. The only licensed part of your purchase remains on Gabe's website. Your ripped duplicates aren't your legal property. Otherwise, you could legally sell them. Hope this helps.
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>December 31st, 2026
FROM doesn't do anything fast, do they?
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>>736643515
My society is amazing. I'm sorry yours isn't.
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>>736643182
Official key sites are... official. There is zero risk and many don't charge tax. Most good ones like GMG offer up to 30% discounts on games/DLC (even with a preorder). I got E33 for 35 bucks the day after launch for example. Zero tax. And Crimson Desert I got for 57.12 total from them. There is no reason not to go that route unless you want the option to refund.
deals.gg is the site you should check.
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>>736643521
>buy game physical
>make a hundred copies
>Sell them all
>I go to jail

WTF YOU SAID I OWNED PHYSICAL GAMES?!
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>>736636061
Well at least they admit it's a tarnished port.
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>>736643551
Sounds like a placeholder date. Probably won't even release in 2026.
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>>736643225
>What they don't tell you is that these are probably from each key sellers "premium service" (ie. gamivo pulls this alot)
So... you just click the link and check? That's what I do. I got the DLC for 31.01 from GMG two months after launch using a mid-month code. No tax. You just check the XP page for the mid-month codes. Usually on the 14th-17th.
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>>736643551
The issue is clearly how fucking dogshit the shitch 2 is.
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>>736643480
Those are some pretty sweet physicals.
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>>736637432
Why not just buy them off a key site?
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>>736643604
That's because you own the media, but you don't own the copy rights or IP itself. These are two different things. Hope this helps.
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>>736643225
>>736643684
In fact if anything I'd say deals.gg under-estimates the discounts. Since they don't track discounts when you just sign-in to the site. Like with GMG. They are often 3-18% less than advertised. Zero fees ordering through them too, and no private info needed since you can pay with paypal.
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>>736643372
Teach me! Teach me! :)
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>The issue is clearly how fucking dogshit the shitch 2 is.
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>>736643724
>you own the game and can do anything you want with it!
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Like I said before, I hate that you're lying to me.
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>Elden ring on the switch 2
>All for 30-40 fps upscaled from 360p
no fucking way anyone would buy this, holy shit
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>>736636376
I dunno man, I think you just might be a total fucking retard. Only retards buy exclusively through steam. Use a keysite with paypal. I buy both grey market and official keys all the time. Here is a price history of JUST official key sellers for cowards. But I have 1024 games on my account with about half being grey market keys and have not once had a game removed in 20 years.
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>>736643754
Transferable licenses, and non transferable licenses. Media with transferable licenses such as physically formatted media (VHS, vinlys, carts, DVDs) can be owned, it is transferred to you. It is your legal property. Non transferable licenses ie digital media (prime video, hulu, steam, GoG) can not be owned. The license remains on the platform and isn't your legal property.
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>>736636061
oh cool the Switch 2 port is about to finally come out
gonna buy it day one from the Eshop, although I hesitate between going after the global release or the japanese release (which I suspect to have its own online like DaS1 on Switch)
also lmao this thread
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>>736643774
>you own the game and can do anything you want with it!
No you can't. There are limitations to every commercial good you own.
>I hate that you're lying to me
Where did i lie to you?
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>>736643568
Ha
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>>736643704
thanks anon ironicly GameStop wanted a measley 50$ for the entire lot!
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>>736644020
>>736643918
Why would I transfer my media to someone else? That doesn't benefit me. I want to keep the game and play it, and physical does not let me do this unless I go through a thousand hoops.
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>>736644151
Hold on, I asked you a question. Answer that first and then we can continue.
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>>736644219
You said i owned my physical games, but what's the point if I can't do anything that I want with them? Resellability is not something I want, because it doesn't benefit me if I want to keep the game.
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>>736644020
Just gonna point out you're arguing with an autist, but hating on Nintendo is kinda expected from mentally deranged individuals like himself.
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>>736644290
Answer my question first and then we can continue with your questions. Thanks.
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>>736644621
You said that you owned physical games. If I can't make infinite copies and sell them, then clearly you don't own them. You're just renting a license.

I own my digital games. You can spew whatever bullshit you want about copyright, but the files are on my computer, and you can't do anything to take them away.

>b-but they're unlicensed
Lick that boot some more, why don't ya?
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Was it feasible or realistic of them to have managed to compress the game from 75 GB down to just below 64 GB so it would’ve fit on a proper game card?
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>>736644513
Yeah this guy seems a bit off.
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Remember when PC gamers bought boxes with serial keys in them? Remember what the next step after that was?

Digital only.
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>>736644290
Already covered here >>736643724
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>>736644803
>needing the disk just to play the game
The dark times.

>>736644852
Then what's the point of buying physical?
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>retards ITT unironically blaming Nintendo for the game being $80
Damn, I didn't know Nintendo set the prices for 3rd party games.
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>>736644903
>what's the point of buying physical?
You own the media you purchased.
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>>736645130
But it doesn't confer anything onto me that I can't already do with digital.

>b-but you can resell it
I don't want to resell it, so that isn't a positive.
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>>736645130
This has never been true.
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>>736636340
Nintendo had nothing to do with this, it's third parties wanting to save as much money as possible. Disc games on other consoles are exactly like this, glorified download codes and verification checks with almost no data on the disc itself.
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>>736645184
>But it doesn't confer anything onto me that I can't already do with digital
It does. For instance, you don't own digital games.
>>736645195
It's always been true.
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>>736645207
>Disc games on other consoles are exactly like this, glorified download codes and verification checks with almost no data on the disc itself.

Why do you keep repeating this lie?

https://www.doesitplay.org/
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>>736636409
Pokopia
>But a partner developer worked in it!
Partner developers work on everything at Nintendo, their in-house studios do jack shit these days. Breath of the Wild was handled by Monolith soft, Smash 4 and Smash Ultimate were done by Bandai Namco.
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I’ve bought Elden Ring 3 times. One of those times was for my girlfriend so we could play seamless together cause she’s very bad at games but she said it looks pretty so I carried her. But still, I’ve bought too many Elden Rings.
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>>736645345
>It does. For instance, you don't own digital games.
You're still not explaining what I'm missing out. Despite me supposedly not owning the games, I still have their files on my computer, I can play them anytime, I can mod them, I can make copies, I can use them on modern computers.

If I can objectively do more with my copy of a game, then it stands to reason that I own it more. You "own" a chunk of plastic with a static experience that'll rot because you can't even use it on future consoles.
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>>736645404
Now how many of those require day 1 patches in order to even work?
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>>736645404
>he keeps posting a website with a massively incomplete database, duplicate entries (due of playing on systems variants like Vita & PSTV or Switch / Switch Lite / Switch OLED) or even titles listed as "complete" on cart despite they require update downloads for the extra content and fixes
lol
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80 fucking dollars for no cart. for a 4 year old game.
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>>736645476
>You're still not explaining what I'm missing out.
Yes I am. I have explained it ad nauseum.
>I still have their files on my computer, I can play them anytime, I can mod them, I can make copies, I can use them on modern computers.
I know. I know how different media formats work. I didn't ask you to explain anything to me.

>If I can objectively do more with my copy of a game, then it stands to reason that I own it more.
You can't own digital media.
>You "own" a chunk of plastic with a static experience that'll rot because you can't even use it on future consoles.
*own, not "own"
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>>736645513
With gimped graphics probably
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>>736645581
>Yes I am. I have explained it ad nauseum.
Source? You just keep saying "you don't own digital media" and then refusing to elaborate.
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>>736645581
GoG make it clear you own the digital media you buy
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>>736645601
and then they say "memory is too expensive" yet switch 1 didnt have the key card shit just fine.

it's greed. they want more money by cutting out actual carts.
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>>736645641
Different carts.
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>>736645207
>be 3rd party dev
>want to publish game on Nintendy Switch 2
>only 64GB cartridge option available for physical games
>game in question is over 100GB
>release on key card to recoup lost physical sales
It really is Nintendo's fault.
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>>736645641
Some physical switch 1 games like pic related required you to download the game
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Fromsoftbergsteinwitz
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>>736645635
No, I've sufficiently explained it.
>>736645638
You can't own digital media.
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>December 31, 2026

I'm guessing they're waiting until they have an official date, but still.
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>>736645785
Until you can take it away from me, it seems like I do own it.
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>>736640545
I couldn't sworn I read somewhere it was paid, but that was also from a random gaming website.
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>>736645785
>You can't own digital media.
You can if you pirate it.
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>>736645667
lets not pretend sdxc is massively more expensive, it isn't. and nintendo buys shit in bulk.
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>base game is on cart
>dlc is download, free code
they COULD do this easily. But they are greedy.
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>>736645905
There should be an option without the dlc, period.
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>>736645837
Just make sure to pirate digital media and not purchase it because in either scenario it seems like you own it regardless of the fact that you don't.
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>>736645870
No you can't. You can't own digital media. Best you can do is pirate it.
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>>736646000
You can't prove that I don't own it. Meanwhile, I can prove that I DO own it.

>it's on my computer
>I can play it any time I want
>it does not need an internet connection
>my account with every online store could be deleted tomorrow, and the files would still exist on my computer

You have no recourse against even a single argument here.
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>>736645991
that too. it should be separate.
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>>736645716
This was cancer, but at least it was maybe 10% of the switch of the library while 90% was a proper physical release.
Switch 2 has 90% of its library as game key cancer horseshit and MAYBE 10% of releases are an actual physical game.
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Same company that compressed the fuck out of the audio in Dark Souls Remastered for Switch for no reason whatsoever, keeping it from being the definitive version of DS1 without modding
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>>736646086
>You can't prove that I don't own it
Sure I can. Is it digital? Then you don't own it, because you can't own digital media.
>>it's on my computer
It's unlicensed therefore not your legal property
>I can play it any time I want
See above
>it does not need an internet connection
See above
>my account with every online store could be deleted tomorrow, and the files would still exist on my computer
See above
>You have no recourse against even a single argument here
I easily had recourse against every "argument" with a single reply.
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Are these keycards at least satisfying to plug in and pull out?
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>>736646341
>It's unlicensed therefore not your legal property
Hmmm, the files still exist on my computer, and the games still work unimpeded. Almost like this point is completely moot. Looks like I still own the games.
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Who is retarded enough to pay 80 dollars for a dogshit digital-only port of a game everyone played 4 years ago? You don't even get the benefit of mods, it'll perform like garbage, and there's a high chance everyone is going to be using shitty wifi if you play online.
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>>736646436
Hmmmm no. You can't own digital media.
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>>736646506
My game library says otherwise. You're just suffering from a wee bit of Digital Derangement Syndrome (DDS) so you take a bias against the positives of digital games.
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>>736640281
>>736640443
Nintendie falseflagging as an xbox player.
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>>736646564
>My game library says otherwise.
No it doesn't.
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>>736646402
I find taking games in and out of my Switch 2 harder than it was on Switch 1. The little indent to open the slot is pretty small.
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>>736646571
You have got to be a snoy jeet.
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>>736643837

That has nothing to do with Bandai Namco you illiterate retard. Kill yourself.
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>>736638204
PlayStation games are at least complete on the disc in 99% of cases
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>>736636061
DLC never goes on sale.
So its like the base game is 40$ and you are forced to also get the DLC.
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>>736646605
Playing it right now, as a matter of fact. Strange, since you said I don't own it.
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>>736646861
Not really strange at all. I play lots of games I don't own.
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You couldn't pay me eighty dollars to replay this pile of shit. Soulless, lifeless, barren open world that makes BotW seem like a fucking kingdom-wide Mardi Gras.
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>>736646893
How so?
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Shit's like 100 GB+ on PS5, no? Who thought it was gonna be on the cart lmao?
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>>736646961
They're digital. And you can't own digital games.
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>>736646971
How much gb can fit in those things?
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>>736646663
My God that's so much worse than being a nint0ddler.
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>>736645460
monolith is owned by nintendo
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>>736646663
Based Xchad
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>>736647054
64
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>>736645460
That's TPC's fault. They own a big chunk of Pokemon
>Bamco
Kirby Air Riders
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>>736638196
>but how can I make this about steam
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>>736647153
It's so convenient that we can just waive every instance of a Nintendo IP getting attached to a key card by saying that they weren't directly involved.
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>>736647290
It's pretty easy. Especially since there's nothing wrong with keycards to begin with.
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>>736636061
Why don't devs just make games reasonably sized and not 900GB? Are they stupid?
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>>736640030
That's just every online seller now. Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Amazon, Newegg. Ebay feels more trustworthy these days.
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>>736647027
I'm still playing them, regardless of the company's wishes. Sounds like a skill issue to me. You flaunt your restrictive chains like they're a medal of honor.
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Oh my god $0.50 per hour of gameplay of one of the greatest games ever made? What a rip off
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>>736636061
It includes the Expansion so the price isn't really bad.
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>>736647430
How so?
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>>736646745
Meanwhile in reality 33% of physical PS5 games require download.
And 12% of the games require download so badly that they might not even work.
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>>736647504
My "unowned" game gives me more freedom over your restrictive chunk of plastic. So your definition of ownership is skewed.
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>>736646745
I'm gonna be honest, the data not being on the cart is not the main problem for me. The problem is it takes up storage on the console that only has 256GB. PS5 also has the same problem because you have to install to the SSD, even though it's slightly better.
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>>736647580
>My "unowned" game gives me more freedom over your restrictive chunk of plastic
How so? Keep in mind I own a computer and have the same access to piracy as you do. In addition to that I own my games and you don't. Why would I not want to own my games? Why wouldn't I flaunt this over you, who is chained only to non ownership. I have the freedom to do whatever I want. You don't.
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>>736646663
Speaking of which, the xbox helix has me wanting to return to xbox so about to pull the trigger. I don't want to miss gears of war e day.
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>>736647689
>I have the freedom to do whatever I want
Yet I have more freedoms than you do. While your "games" are stuck to proprietary hardware and doomed to suffer from disc rot, my games are immortal and ever-changing. You'l never feel the joy of a randomizer or a romhack that overhauls the whole game. And forget the native source ports.
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>>736636061
should've named it dung eater edition
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>>736647830
>Yet I have more freedoms than you do.
How so?
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>>736647830
>doomed to suffer from disc rot
Nah, I keep my house clean
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>>736636609
>>736636829
>>736636950
>>736637452
>>736638965
Key cards are aids but what you're suggesting is giganigger levels of retarded.
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>>736647830
>my games are immortal
You aren't immortal though so this whole debate (of giving a shit) about game ownership on a Nintendo console or Steam is rather moot.
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>>736636061
Just get it digital, dont buy the damn key-card
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>>736636061
>Tarnished Edition
At that price, it sure is
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>>736647872
For starters, I notice that your SNES cart is not compatible with your switch. Your ps1 disk can't be put into your Ps4 or Ps5. Your PsP umds are incompatible with the vita.

Meanwhile, my games just work. Seems like the biggest difference.
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Can't imagine how fucking retarded you have to be to think this shit was gonna fit on a cartridge
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>>736636061
WE DID IT /V/!
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>>736648228
Your SNES carts are compatible with your Switch? Your PS4 and PS5 discs are compatible with your PS1? Why are you lying?
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>>736648228
>Meanwhile, my games just work. Seems like the biggest difference.
That's wholly untrue for the old CD-PC games since you like to flaunt about old physicals from the 90's not being playable on modern console hardware. There is a reason why GoG was considered a blessing because Windows compatibility is a fucking bitch to deal with
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>>736648250
With a little compression you can fit a 60-80 GB game into a 64 GB cartridge.
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>>736638196
>But PC...
Broken clock
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>>736648450
NTA but we used to call those botched ports when the audio quality sucked(Dark Souls 1 on Switch, Skies of Arcadia on Gamecube).
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>>736636061
>noo I need all the data on the cartridge so I can play it when i freshly unbox it in a post apocalyptic scenario with no internet
I don't get this

It's still a physical copy you can buy and sell and display on your shelf if that's your thing
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>>736645404
Keep in mind you need to authenticate the disc drive online first before you can use it on the PS5 Slim and PS5 Pro.
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>>736645641
>it's greed
It isn't just greed, it's also another layer of judaism. They don't want people owning their games.
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>>736648569
you have to store the data on your system which means you need to either play storage tetris or buy a microsd express card and those aren't cheap, 1tb is $220~$300. the switch 2 only has 256gb of internal storage.
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>>736648367
>>736648382
Hell, once I turned your physical games into digital ones, they worked on all of my PCs. A digital SNES game now works on anything that can run an emulator. Seems a bit more "ownership" like.

>That's wholly untrue for the old CD-PC games since you like to flaunt about old physicals from the 90's not being playable on modern console hardware
A quick tinkering with the files makes them playable again. Feels nice to not be locked out of my own games.

>game like Deus Ex has trouble running on modern computers
>modding scene rolls out the red carpet and gives you 10 different flavors to make it work, improve it, mod it and give it that ol spicy touch

>game like Metroid Prime isn't on the Switch
>"erm, please buy our overpriced POS remaster"
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>>736636061
So does this confirm the new normal is $70 digital $80 physical?
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>>736648774
No, because that applies to Nintendo Exclusive First Party games. The nest game to look forward to for that is either Raiders or the rumored star fox
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>>736648569
The sole bad thing about GKC is that the Switch 2 is rather limited in storage, although your average gamer is just gonna have a few titles and juggle to install & uninstall.
Although that's hardly what the Internet screeches about, it's all about muh ownership or pretending Nintendo is gonna cut out the download servers (despite having zero history to do so, in fact old leaks proved the company is very into archiving their shit).
If it weren't for these autists malding all the time and obnoxiously, I would say the GKC has the neat advantage of costing cheap in the second-hand market since the mentally ill collectors are avoiding them. It's a win-win for the actual consumer and vidya enjoyer.
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>>736648774
Nintendo don't control 3rd party game pricing
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>>736648904
why $80 though? cause of the SD ram? That's pricier than anywhere else.
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>>736648947
Same price everywhere else.
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>>736648947
It's Elden Ring+DLC, the SOTE edition for other consoles was also released at $80.
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>>736649000
>>736648985
ah.
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>>736649000
Yes but that was when it came out. Why is it this much now?
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>>736648864
>GKC has the neat advantage of costing cheap in the second-hand market
But why are you buying them from the second hand market?
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>>736648710
I know how digital and physical games work. Thanks though.
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>>736649090
Clearly not, since you think that games bought on GOG can be revoked by steam. lol
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>>736649082
To get games at $30 in a year. Nintendo artificially never drops their prices as a policy but used market always goes down.
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>>736636340
>nintendo
it's bamco being stingy motherfuckers
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>>736649115
Hmmm no. I don't think that.
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>>736649040
A lot of 3rd parties just love releasing full price late ports on the Switch and now Switch 2. Square Enix surprisingly didn't do this with FF7R and gave it a reasonable price.
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>>736639573
Nintendo e-shop sales are actually fucking insane. The discounts are often far more generous than even the biggest steam sales and new games go on sale every single day. I wish list tons and tons of games every week and after a few days everything I wanted is suddenly under $10. Even Nintendo's own games get discounted pretty frequently, only for like $20 off or so but still. I don't know where the Nintendo doesn't do sales narrative came from because it's not even close to being true.
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>>736636061
I can still sell it.
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>>736649120
But why would you buy from a used market? If Nintendo is releasing GKCs, which you admit are superior to digital and physical combined, then why wouldnt you pay full market price?

I thought you wanted to support good practices, but it looks like the opposite is true.
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>>736649287
I think it only applies to First Party games, but 3rd party sales are usually very generous, I agree. I got like 4 games for 10 dollars(DD, RE1, Dying Light, and Meat Boy).
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>>736649356
Game ownership is good practice and I believe in a used market. Digital should be like that too ideally if it wasn't controlled by a bunch of shysters like Gaben.
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>>736637452
>there is no benefit to keycards, it's both physical and digital but worse
Doesn't keycards allow for resale or is the game tied to your account?
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>>736649428
Used market deprives money from the people keeping game ownership alive, ergo you hate game ownership. ;)
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>>736649495
>Doesn't keycards allow for resale
Yes
>is the game tied to your account?
No
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>>736649495
Nintendo likes the keycards because they believe it defeats piracy once and for all. The key cards make it to where you can only get the game from Nintendo's servers, and only if you have the keycard.
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>>736649287
>I don't know where the Nintendo doesn't do sales narrative came from because it's not even close to being true.
It's because to them, $40 (or $30) doesn't count, but they'll still complain about it if it was less anyways because they want these games for free
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>>736636175
Underrated.
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>>736649929
Unless you can match the price of an indie game, it's too expensive. 10 bucks is as far as I can go.
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Retards whine about game key carts which can be resold and then shill steam and completely ignore the fact that game ownership on pc doesn't exist anymore
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>>736636061
I was thinking of getting it, but now that it's confirmed cuck-card, I won't.
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>>736650065
$10 is a bit steep for an indie game. Especially if it's not a physical copy.
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>>736650132
>console games are so terrible that you immediately want to get rid of them the moment you're done playing them
Sucks to hear, m8.
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>>736640717
Xchad here. Too busy playing Halo to care.
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>>736650221
Opposite actually. They're so good I want to own them for my collection.
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>>736650429
>I want to own them
>BUT I NEED TO RESELL THEM RIGHT AWAY
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>>736650482
No I'm not selling them. I just told you I want to own them, not sell them off.
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>$80
>for a 4-year-old game
>that you'll never own
>that's a clear downgrade from the original
>that won't have access to the panoply of mods
>that will likely run at a silk smooth 15fps
How nוֹntoꓒꓒler are even viable, defies all logic...
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>Banco wants to sell old shit as if it's new
>This is Nintendo's fault somehow
snoys seething never gets old.
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>>736649640
wouldn't that mean that nintendo allowing the used market to happen is pro consumer even if its eats their bottom line?
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>>736650690
Actually, it's anti-consumer since only evil companies like sony would have sales. You have to filter the third world by keeping your prices high, remember? Also, if a game is evergreen and good forever, sales are literally poison to that ideology.
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>>736650482
Have you never had a video game collection before? Here's one of mine I posted a while back.
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>>736650572
Then being resellable is not a selling point, ironically. So why does every physical cuck keep pushing it?

>>736650753
>that shitty photoshop
wow. You're not even trying.
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>>736650745
then Nintendo is the good guys? since they have both sales and used game market
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>>736650806
Sony has that too, are they the good guys?
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>>736650791
Oh I see your confusion. You must be one of those trolls who lies about owning his digital games, right? You do frequently lie about this, correct?
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>>736650892
them going full digital means they're the good guys
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>>736639038
Why the fuck does fromsoft change publishers all the time like they're a cheap whore
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>>736650941
Taking the disc drive out the PS5 Pro was probably their smartest decision. Killing physical is the only way forward.
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>>736636061
TRUKE
Buying brand new games is only fun if it's multiplayer and you have a group.
Otherwise, there's thousands of games out there.
I'd rather play them and wait until this can be emulated and play it in superior mode for free.

You are goy cattle MOOOOOOOO
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>instant cacao seethe
>Acpedo lying in here too
Oh dey mad
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>>736650926
>You must be one of those trolls who lies about owning his digital games, right?
Well, you keep trying to argue that I don't own them. Until you can take them away from me, it looks like I do own them. How are you not getting this?
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>>736651094
>emulating
>elden ring
??????????
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>>736651145
you are illiterate, I am sorry that your ecosystem failed you.
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>>736651178
you're in an elden ring thread talking about emulating it anon, do you know where you are?
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>>736651108
>Yes I do frequently lie about this
Ok good thanks for being honest. So what is happening is that to prove you wrong the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it. So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their games, they're laughing at you for owning nothing and being happy. You do own nothing, and you are happy, correct?
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>>736639647
Oh I just saw the play-asia sale. That's actually a pretty good sale. A lot of high profile jrpgs coming soon.
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>>736651320
oh shit, that's pretty good
culdcept and RATATAN here i come!
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>So what is happening is that to prove you wrong the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it.
If you liked the game, you would never want to sell it. If you actually wanted to support the dev, you wouldn't deprive them of a sale by supporting the used market. A self-defeating argument if ever I heard it.

If you want to sell a video game, that means you hate it. A good game would NEVER leave your possession, because you'd want to play it for decades. What kind of backwards banana republic logic do you use to say otherwise?
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>>736636061
So, a physical object? What's the problem here lil sis
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>>736651409
>If you liked the game, you would never want to sell it
Whoops looks like I was moving too fast for you. So lets start over so I can explain this again.

You must be one of those trolls who lies about owning his digital games, right? You do frequently lie about this, correct?
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>>736639356
I got a disc with the whole game on it nintentoddler, will you? LMAO
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>>736651409
>he doesn't try every game to see if he personally likes them cause he doesn't trust reviewers
>and sell the games he doesn't like
sounds like you just don't play games
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>>736651320
>>736651401
Thanks for the shoutout. I got Yoshi and Digimon.
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>>736651473
>dodged the question
So you gloat about selling your games because you hate them. You're literally buying trash to flip on the used market, for no discernible reason other than "oh they might go up in price one day".

You treat video games like NFTs.

>>736651508
>he doesn't try every game to see if he personally likes them cause he doesn't trust reviewers
You know what acts like a great free demo? Just pirating the game. Why would you own a piece of shit that you just want to get rid of?
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>>736651548
>So you gloat about selling your games
We're going to get there eventually, trust me, patient.

You must be one of those trolls who lies about owning his digital games, right? You do frequently lie about this, correct?
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>>736651590
Oh great, I think I broke the bot. He keeps repeating himself.
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>>736651548
>Just pirating the game
you're one of those who won't even buy a game he actually enjoys
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>>736651649
It's not a difficult question. I can wait if you need more time.
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>>736651656
>pirate a game to demo it
>buy it if it's good
>don't buy it if it sucks

Fellas, I think i cracked the code.

>>736651701
I do own my digital games, but that's not trolling or lying. It's on you to prove that I don't own them. You need to be able to demonstrate that they can be taken away. You CAN demonstrate this, right?
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>ACbald is yet again trying this retarded "physical ownership isn't real ownership cope
I'm guessing a bunch more bad news for sony is coming tomorrow
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>>736651750
>buy it if it's good
see, i don't think that steps happens for you
you just play the rest of the game and call it a day
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>>736636061
who the fuck actually bought a nintendo switch 2?
do you hate yourself?
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>>736651779
Some of us have morals and standards. My apologies if you think everyone is a greedy, soulless entity like sony or nintendo.
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>>736651750
>I do own my digital games
Great, so you are one of those people who lies about owning digital games. Thanks.

So what is happening is that to prove you wrong the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it. So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their games, they're laughing at you for owning nothing and being happy. You do own nothing, and you are happy, correct?
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>>736651874
>Pirating Games
>Talking about morals and standards
LOL, come on nigga, we all do it. Don't start lying about "buying a game I pirate cause i like it"
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>>736651750
I had a friend that used to say this, and it was purely a cope for being tight on money. Look, if you need to pirate games then I think that's fine. Just don't pretend like its some genius method for demoing games.
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>>736651959
>>736652031
Sorry mate, believe it or not, some of us like to support our favorite devs.

>>736651896
>So what is happening is that to prove you wrong the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it.
But why would I sell my games? You keep dodging this question.

>buy what I like > like keeping the game > keep it

Where does selling it factor in?
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>>736636061
appropriate title
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>>736652059
>some of us
yeah, just not you
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>>736652059
>>736652059
Read nigga
>But why would I sell my games?
>So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their game
Am I moving too fast for you? Is english your second language? We can start over if you need to.
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>>736652129
I disagree.

>>736652217
>So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their game
See, this is a lie. If you weren't bragging about it, why even bring it up? For someone who wants to keep their game, it doesn't factor in whatsoever. You seem to be stuck on this part. You keep trying to gloat about a feature that you literally can't use, without sacrificing ownership of your game disk. It's a catch 22. Come on, kid. You can do better than that.
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>>736651759
I'm guessing another studio closure, they have one every month
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>>736652298
>>736651896
>the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it. So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their games,
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>>736652395
>the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it.
This is a non-argument. You can sell anything. Hell, I could put all my roms into a usb and sell them to my friend. I guess I own them now? Bonus points because they're now also on a physical, transferrable medium.
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>>736651750
How do you pirate Switch 2 exclusives? Do we have an emulator yet?
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>>736636061
>tendies STILL haven't played Elden Ring yet

wtf where are the games? i thought nintendo systems had games.
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>>736652467
Console warriors love to lie.
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>>736651320
>80$ for 2 games
>88 shekels + 10 shekels shipping
>that's like 100 burgers converted total
Why are chinks like this?
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>>736652531
dont tell me that you played it on your home office setup...
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>>736652621
Better to play Elden Ring on a PC than a gimped console.
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>>736652685
>when in reality Switch 2 will have the worst running build of it in existence

and you'll still buy it
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>>736652613
I had $10 in cash back so shipping paid for itself.
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>when in reality Switch 2 will have the worst running build of it in existence
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>>736652778
It's just a glorified rental on consoles. On PC you actually own it.
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>>736639356
Snoyjeetbros…
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>>736652453
No you can not legally sell your games. This is because you don't own them.
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>he instantly seethe at the bald picture
LOL
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>>736652453
>selling something you pirated
talk about having no standards or morals
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>>736652960
It's too easy
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>>736653062
This but PC vegans and digital storefront games.
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>>736652994
I'm not gloating about selling my roms, as i have no need nor intention to do so. I'm just laughing at you for having your standards thrown back at you.
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>>736653062
>>
>buy game
>the case has nothing
>"now go download 75gb"
physical is pointless with key card shit.
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>>736653176
>>736651242
>So what is happening is that to prove you wrong the de facto method of proving ownership is whether or not you have the ability to sell it. So what is happening is that people aren't bragging about being able to sell their games, they're laughing at you for owning nothing
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>>736653176
>I'm not gloating about selling my roms
but you did
and you brag about it being physical too
talk about having no integrity to your own words
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>>736653225
welcome to gaming circa 2006
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>>736653283
>>736653239
So you DO own your digital games, since you can make them physical AND sell them? Interesting. The best part is that, if I sold my roms, i still have them, so I can keep playing them.

Can you do that with physical? Just wondering.
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>>736653350
>>736642216
>>
You can tell its a thursday by how much seethe and shitflinhing the usual suspects are spouting, shits gonna get violent.
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>>736653434
whats so special about thursday?
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>>736653350
>The best part is that, if I sold my roms, i still have them
so you brag about selling something you pirate, and then admit you sold nothing cause you still kept your roms
wow
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>>736653476
schizos like to seethe today for some strange reason, makes them lose their hair
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>>736653476
thursday is when objective data is posted and the sony fanboys go ballistic trying to cope
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>>736653481
>>736653394
But you CAN sell them, and you CAN put them onto physical format. Which means you do indeed own them. I'm glad we could come to this understanding. It took you a little while, but you finally get it.
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>>736653481
He also bragged about ripping off his friends by selling them pirated games.
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>>736653531
but you sold nothing
so what you did was scam someone
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>>736653531
>>736652941
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>>736653520
>>736653530
just like those Circana reports where Snitch 2 lost to PS5
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>>736653580
Its gonna be really funny when the March circana numbers drop and they suddenly dont count.
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>>736653543
>>736653556
>>736653572
>the de facto proof that you own something is your ability to sell it

Those words are sure coming back to bite you, aren't they?
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Can you imagine being a balding 40 year old unable to handle criticism about a media format type?
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>>736653543
This is come from the "I pirate but I support devs I like" guy, haha like I believe that
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>>736653619
Not really, no. I still stand by them.
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>>736653612
they already were claiming they don't count when the December and 2025 as a whole was released and showed Switch 2 completely sweeping the entire year with just 7 months on market
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>>736653631
>this is come from
GOOD MORNING SAAR
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>>736653619
robbing someone isn't selling
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>>736653661
Good for you. I still own my digital games. Tell you what, though. Find a way to take them away from me and I'll reconsider. Hop to it, champ.

>>736653685
But enough about consoles robbing people by selling them antiquated and outdated hardware that purposely expires.
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>>736653530
other than a certain sales data getting posted, there's always some bad news for snoys too
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>>736653723
>>736642216
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>>736653723
>coming from a guy that would scam people with pirated games that they could get for free
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>>736640717
reject snoybois, befriend xbros.
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>>736653664
>>736653612
> a console with barely any exclusives is ripping months from the switch 2

how does sony do it? nintendo has to try quite hard just to beat it
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>you don't own your digital games on the switch but you do on steam
He's still doing this? lol
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>>736653737
that to, it really seems like every thursday the past several months have had some terrible news for sony come out
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>>736653765
Like I said before, I have no intention to do it, but if we're talking technicalities, I have the capacity. Maybe find a better definition of ownership that doesn't get thrown back in your face.
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80 dollars would be bad if the game was ON a cart.

it's 4 years old.
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>>736653781
He's now proud to say he sells pirated games
What a fucking loser
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>>736653810
>he says this while bragging for four posts how he would scam people with roms
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>>736653781
but don't you know? you don't really own your physical games because... you can't shove a 360 disk into a game boy color so you don't own it!
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>>736653810
Nope! Sticking with the first definition. Ownership is a legal construct. Legality is the entire foundation. Sorry.
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>>736653815
*balding loser
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>>736653860
Sounds like a (You) problem.

>>736653867
I can play 360 and game boy games on my PC no problem. the Switch can't even play most nintendo games.
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>>736653775
you seem upset that circana reported switch 2 being the best selling console of 2025 in the US despite it only have 7 months compared to playstation's or xbox's full year
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>>736653943
>He doesn't even deny that he loves scamming people
That's a new low anon
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>>736653943
>I can play 360 and game boy games on my PC no problem. the Switch can't even play most nintendo games
Oh I know. I can handle criticisms of my preferred format type.

Still buying physical.
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>>736653969
why is it even a close fight? Does Nintendo really have to try that hard just to pull ahead?
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>>736653984
>I can handle criticisms
>throws a temper tantrum when someone says he doesn't own his flimsy plastic carts
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>>736639356
Ohnonononononononononono
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>>736653815
>>736653867
I gotta love how he uses modding as an argument like if it has anything to do with ownership
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>>736654037
Sure.
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>>736654014
they didn't actually have to try that hard, they gave Sony a 5 month head start, AND STILL BEAT THEM
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>>736654014
>7 months of nintendo sales vs a full year of sony sales
>nintendo wins this by a wide margin
pretty grim for sony
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>>736653973
You'll survive.
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>>736639356
What about the dynamic pricing?
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>>736654059
>>736654069
So the fastest selling console of all time is toe to toe with a 6 year old console with barely any exclusives?
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barrier
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>>736654114
Yeah way to go sony
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>>736654114
Neither really has exclusives, unless you count shovelware like Pokopia or Astrobot. It's kind of like the special olympics.
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>>736654048
My favorite part of baldy's cope is he keeps pretending hes a PC user, but he only ever spams his retarded argument that "nintendo is anti-consumer because the switch 2 doesn't have 6 different cart slots and 3 different disk drives!" in nintendo threads
he has never had one of these 600 post meltdowns but aimed at sony with their $800 console that doesn't have native backwards compatibility
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>>736639573
>Nintendo is responsible for 3rd parties discounting games on eshop
We are reaching the levels of delusion never before thought possible
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>>736654114
>toe to toe
calling a 5 month head start for Sony "toe to toe" is pretty funny. Maybe nintendo should only race on one leg next time to match Sony's speed
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>>736654165
>can use a PC to emulate thousands of games across multiple console gens and companies
>Nintendo can't even provide a fraction of that without their gay NSO service

And you people actually pay for the privilege. Holy shit. You pay for DLC, you pay for season passes. You pay for using your own internet. Being stuck on consoles must be hell on earth.
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>>736654114
>tries to cope with circana
>goes nuclear when circana is the one showing nintendo winning
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>>736654238
Ps5 has been winning in US for 2 months straight, about to be 3 potentially.
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>>736654261
Jesus calm down
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>>736654269
>about to be 3 potentially.
LMAO you're are worried about march, I can tell
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>>736654261
thanks for proving the point chromedome
hey remind me again, what game has DLC, battle passes, and FOMO shit again? Mario Kart World on switch 2, or Sonic Crossworld on PC and playstation?
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>>736654165
Also reminder that he only showed his PS4 copy of AC6 when he was hounded for proof, the nigger is a big pc larper.
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>>736654306
Why would I be scared? Ps5 winning is just a bonus at this point. Switch 2 should be sweeping. Thx for January and February though. Guess your games aren’t doing too much for you guys
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>>736654359
Pokopia really has you shook, huh?
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>>736654359
Don't seethe too hard about march anon, you'll lose your hair
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>>736654359
>Ps5 winning
If they're winning why do they keep shutting down studios?
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>>736654314
Never a problem in my favorite games. I can't vouch for AAA slop from sony and nintendo. Too busy enjoying free DLC from indie games. But hey, enjoy paying 80 dollars for P2P servers XD
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>>736654424
>nintendo is losing to said console maker
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>>736654441
>baldy walks into a gotcha he set himself up for
>tries to cope by admitting he steals from indie devs
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>>736654414
>>736654375
Probably will be a competitive month for sure
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>>736654424
Losing 4 billion USD buying a studio who makes another massive flop is how you win
not by selling lots of games that people want
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>>736654593
We also have to remember that Sony released Concord, the biggest flop in entertainment history in all of mankind, that should be brought up in every thread discussing SIE's "success".
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>>736654593
the faster Marathon dies, the faster Destiny 3 gets made
hope they pivot to Destiny 3 now before i have to wait 6 more years
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>>736654636
you gotta hand it to sony, not many companies could release a flop of such massive proportions that it completely changes the language of a medium almost overnight
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>>736654654
>destiny with even less of the people who made destiny 1 and 2 worth playing in its early years
>destiny brought to you by the team behind marathon
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>>736654684
and then set up the next flop right after it
they're on a roll
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>>736654787
>>736654636
And Sony still got Elden Ring on their storefront for their players earlier than the Snitch company did.
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>>736654787
Whoops, meant to post this instead
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>>736654787
Its funny how far back sony's history of propping up dogshit goes
remember when they paraded around Life of Black Tiger as if it was some amazing killer app for the playstation?



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