I'm so glad the haters fucked off and now we can appreciate the game for the kino that it is.
it's shit
DS3 is the best one to go back to
I don't understand why people hate DS2, i'm in Iron keep and so far i like it a lot more than DS3The best part of DS3 was the Ringed city DLCI'd say it's ER/Bloodborne/DS1 > DS2 > DS3
>>736636218It's more of a boss rush simulator than the more exploration-focused previous two games, but it's still good.
>>736636218Poise changes singlehandedly bring it down from a 7/10 to 4/10.
>>736636218DS3 is the only souls game where the areas get progressively better instead of worse, peaking in the second half. Complete inverse of DS1 while the rest are a mixed bag overall.
another case of ds1 troons dismissing a good game because they couldn't get a black knight halberd at the start of the game to cheese every enemy encouner
>>736638425Sellsword twinblades trivialize DS3 just as much as BKH does DS1 and you don't need good RNG to get them early
>>736636218>>736636501>>736637310I'm playing DS2 again right now and its amazing how much it improved upon the formula of DS1 while DS3 completely gutted it.
>>736636218Even though they put more effort into the combat here, this game made it blindingly obvious that Dark Souls combat isn't very fun.
>>736636218corridor levels and member berries the game. what a piece of shit.
>>736636218This game had nothing original about it, but it had the most polished gameplay and build variety, then Elden Ring released and made this game completely obsolete on every department.There's a reason to revisit all Souls games, except that one.
>>736639014>>736639193>>736639601>>736639952oh, of course the retarded NIGGERS that hate fun come out of the woodwork. The game is beloved and there's nothing you can about it, cope, seethe and dilate.
>>736639014don't blame DS3
>>736636218It's baffling how visually ugly it is compared even to Demon's. The enemy design and gameplay in general also suck. It just feels so phoned in compared to other From games.
>>736636218Did they ever update the body you get the archive key from to actually be Gotthard's instead of twin katana guy?
none of the dark souls games are bad except DS2
>>736638069>It's more of a boss rush simulatorso it has more of the most fun and engaging content in the game, and less random wandering around hoping to find something interesting?sounds like kino
>>736639014this. Going through ds2 now and no game is even close to as good
>>736639014Laughable post
>>736636218Nah, it's shit.Easily the worst of the dark souls trilogy.
>>736637310>slower>dogshit hitboxes>ganks squads throughout the game>awful world designNeed I go on?
>>736636218>Thread about DS3>DS2 fags invade and swear by how good it isNobody is falling for this shit anymore.
>>736636218Big sword go spin
>>736642441Troon howard of troonthesda btw
>>736636218Demons's Souls and DS2 SotFS fans felt betrayed by the game's dumb downed, press the roll button at the right time, gameplay. What was once a series about thinking like an adventurer and using your brain to overcome obstacles and challenges, just turned into roll slop.
>>736642441>thread about any DS game>DS2 contrarians flood in to shitpost about their objectively shit game just to farm (You)sIt's all so tiresome.
>>736642379>dogshit hitboxes>ganks squads throughout the game>awful world designThese all equally describe 3 thoguh.
>>736636218Over time I legitimately like DS2 more than DS3. This game is the worst in the series easily.
Holy fuck, DS2 shills have lost their fucking minds.
>>736639193For some reason, even compared to Elden Ring, DS3 just feels like it has an excessive amount of rolling
the ringed city is kino, the rest of the game is ass
>>736636218I haven't played it yet. I beat DeS, DS1, DS2, and Elden ring. Is it worth it to go back?
>>736636218This is still the worst Souls game.
>>736643091Has anyone considered the idea that it's the same 5 people shilling for DS2 every single day on this board for the past 12 years
>>736643190Don't bother with that shit and play Bloodborne and Sekiro.
>>736636218game fucking sucks
>>736643190its okay for a playthrough or two, the base game is literal ass cheeks and the best fights are either optional or in the dlcs
>>736640105u mad
>>736643224Yeah, that's true
Demon's Souls was a spark of creative genius and a rare willingness to take risks, Dark Souls was riding that creative genius and scaling it up and making it more accessible, and Bloodborne was the culmination of it all tapering off to a concise, climactic finish. Everything after is formulaic rollslop.
>>736639014DS2 B-Team babs shambling out to defend their "gutted" (like their genitals), the first entry in the series that can truly be considered i-frames autism rollslop simulator lmao
>>736643401trannyslop tier post, with the tranime shit n all
>>736636218how the fuck do I properly use magic in this game. every time I try the early game is such a slog and I get raped and end up switching to str/dex
>>736643437>doesn't refute the accusations at allThank you, sister. Please go play your DS2 broken mess and leave the rest of us to enjoy and talk about GOOD games.
>>736643486you don't. souls is a melee game. magic is just there to appeal to magicfags. magic is good in ER because it makes sense in the high fantasy setting
>>736643552not reading your tranny bs dog
>>736643486You're doing it wrong. If you're struggling, why not look up a guide? It's always a better piece of info than a thread on /v/, especially if it's infested with festering DS2 troonoids who will tell you to do the exact opposite thing (if they played DS3 at all, which I doubt).
>>736643660>look up a guideyou didn't beat the game
>>736643621But you clearly are. F, commit yourself. And stop wearing dresses in public, you're scaring people off.
You see, Final Fantasy 10, Street Fighter 2, Dark Souls 3, they are all babbies first game in the genre. FF10 was the first FF on PS2 so shit tons of kids played it. SF2 was the first really good console fighting game and DS3 is some on sale PS4 baby shit you underage little fucking mutant fuck off, literally every other DS game is better and more soulful
>>736643687Maybe in your deranged mind. The purpose of the game is to have fun, guides give you knowledge you lack, but don't play the game for you or make it a breeze like hacks by breaking the bounds set by programmers.Unless you start talking about some day to day guides for certain games but these certainly do need them to 100% them in reasonable time (less than 200 hours).
>>736643391Would have to agree. The formula is very tired now. I keep trying to get into Elden ring but it feels bloated and over tuned.
>>736643687Fuckin idiot, judging by the quest design in ER, From EXPECTS you to look shit up while playing their games.
>>736644051Eh I avoid looking up stuff because I think it's lame but there are cases where they really want you to. Like the DLC for DS1 where they literally posted how to access it on their website.
>>736644051Ranni's quest line was fucking bullshit. People who say that someone shouldn't look shit up when playing fromsoft games is just trolling. They are comically obtuse. Miyazaki famously based his story telling in DeS and subsequent entries on his sparce understanding of western english fantasy in which he understood only parts of english at the time. This made him have to fill in the gaps in his understand with his own headcannon.I think that this design philosophy is good in theory for the STORY of the game, but it is absolute shit when it comes to quest design.
>>736644624>Ranni's quest line was fucking bullshitIf you pay attention and explore everywhere instead of boss rushing like a retard its really not that cryptic. I did it completely blind
DS3's atmosphere might be my favorite in the series. Everything is bleak, grey and oppressive but it fits the setting. If you chose the Linking the Fire ending in DS1, these are the consequences. I'm honestly afraid someone will remaster it one day and add a bunch of color for no good reason.
>>736644624I did Ranni's quest in my first playthrough without looking anything up. Have you considered maybe some people had been playing these games for almost 15 years prior to Elden Ring's release and know how the games work? You don't need to look anything up in and Souls game to 100% it.
>>736643190Yes, despite everything it's worth a playthrough. It has its problems but a lot of them don't matter on your first blind run. A lot of shit only becomes evident when you try to replay it.
>>736644624How stupid to you actually have to be to have trouble with Ranni's quest? It's literally the simplest and most straightforward sidequest in the entire fucking series.
>>736643391It find it a big shame that everything copies Dark Souls instead of Demon's Souls. This cursed "genre" could use more minimalism and subtlety instead of """hardcore""" bosses and obtuse mechanics. DeS almost seems elegant in how straightforward it is for the most part.
>>736641994Hypebeast streamer basedface coded comment
>>736644343JRPGs, especially older ones (I'm talking the 1999/2009 transition era) contain a lot of fucking secrets EVERYWHERE, many of these games require making a sequence of steps so obtuse, so completely unrelated to each other that there's NO way to get it on your own unless you've been datamining the game or, in rarer cases, some autist finds it after playing the same game for like 20 years or a developer (who put the secret in himself) leaks it out after he becomes convinced nobody will ever guess it before he dies. I'm thinking FFVII (ESPECIALLY), FFVIII, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden - the last two are much younger than the first two, but have their share of annoying secrets you won't get on your first, typical playthrough.
>>736636218grey
>>736644051They never do. It's alright if you miss things. What they expect you to do is to do it like it's 2009 and discuss the game on your preferred forum to exchange info with other players. And that's exactly what happens here when a souls game comes out, so it's working as intended.
>>736645324I agree wholeheartedly. Dark Souls is a great game and very much like Demon's Souls it was just the start of making everything bigger and faster, but Demon's Souls groundedness and quaint gameplay puts adventure and memorable moments at the forefront.
>>736645509Mm, that's right. Elden Ring could be a much more interesting game if it was made with DS-like mechanics and design philosophy at the front.
>>736643552Kek
Actual valid criticism>world design is too linear>not enough build variety Troon babble>muh grey>muh references
>>736636218It's kinda mid after playing elden ring desu sempai
>>736643224ds2 abysmal playercount on steam kinda speaks volumes on how it's by far the least popular game in the seried
>elden ring but without open world slopyeah in retrospect it wasnt that bad
I'm not liking DS2 that much. It feels really bad to play.
>>736643224
Reminder that DS3 and Bloodborne were developed concurrently and Miyazaki's attention was almost entirely on the latter. Him calling bloodborne his magnum opus and all.DS3 is a turd cobbled together from scraps with little direction or artistic intent. Not to mention that without big M, it's arguably fanfic just like the second game.
>>736650570Kek
>>736643118Elden Ring has more attacks in a sequence, so you'll end up rolling more if your goal is to roll through every attack and then get a hit in. It has a lot of other options, even tanking hits to land R2s, so it doesn't feel as repetitive as DS3.
>>736651009If it's fun someone can fret about all the other shit later, I can say most of the Souls games are random crap cobbled together as an absolute disasterfest of games that shouldn't be successful in the first place, but they were and are.
>>736636218>>736636501It was never a bad game. My first Dark Souls game for sure. Got it on launch day. I miss those days.Tried DS1, then DS2. After weighing it all, DS2 is my favorite with DS3 having a place in my heart.
>>736651009>Him calling bloodborne his magnum opusThat doesn't mean shit, he's a japanese developer, he would gas up every game he and his company is involved with even when they're dogshit.
>>736643486Pick Assassin for Sorcerer, Pyro for fire and dark, and you don't do a cleric until like the last third.
DS3 was overwhelmingly mid even at release. Bloodborne was a hard act to follow. I did like the sense of feeling "this is it" for souls slop when I put out the flame at the end. Never bothered with Elden Ring.
>>736642379Being slower is good and why DS was good in the first place. Jesus fuck I hate rollslop short sword ds3 faggots so goddam much>>736642668thisnot only is the map a straight linear line, the gameplay became it too>webm of havel or rolling in 1/2kys>>736643660kys
>>736644624nobody should ever take this shit hole site seriously anymore, everzoomers are so fucking pathetic man
>>736644901????????????3 is by far the most colorful in the series, outside of rollslop and it being a straight line... that's like... the biggest complaint by far...
Are there any other games like Dark Souls 2/Demons Souls out there?
>want to see DS3 Lighting Engine stuff at work>it's all Patreon locked
>>736652189>DS3 was overwhelmingly mid even at release. Bloodborne was a hard act to follow.sekiro clears both easily
>>736636501TrueIt's the only one with no filler
>>736637310Eldren ring over bb? Your casual slop enjoyer. I bet you didn't even finish sekiro
>>736652551only because youve never had friends and never played guitar hero with themsekiro is just guitar hero, alone, and sad, once you beat it onceKINOborne is like taking the pinnacle of every medium and combining them all togetherin that sense, it is truly lovecraftian because your senses really cant even fundamentally grasp the level of pure KINO that KINOborne isin other words, youre akin to a maggot on a lower level of existence
>throws all of the good things about the slower, methodical combat of DeS-DaS2 out the window in favour of a spectacle boss rush and neuters multiplayer because that's how LE EPIC BLOODBORNE GOTY PC VERSION WHEN did itMichael Zaki is a hack
>>736652602ER is way better than Sekrio and you probably used mimic and a bleed build and watched twitch fags or used guidesER is a masterpiece just like DeS, DS1, DS2 (unironically), BB, AC, Sekiro. Only 3 sucks. ER is 3 but good. Also ER is far harder than Sekiro if you don't do the above. Sekiro is literally a fucking rhythm game you stupid faggot. Post your Radahn (both prenerf) and Malenia fights.
>>736639952>want to replay Elden Ring>remember I have to run around shitty open world for smithing stones>need to explore awful boring catacombs for the spells and weapons I want>mountaintopsER is still fun to replay because of the build variety, but parts of it are a total slog
Elden Ring completely killed the runback. I just can't accept it anymore
>>736639952There is literally no fucking build variety in 3 at all, what in the actual fuck are you talking about. Literally every fucking other Souls game has more (including ER) by far. Even poise is fucking garbage in 3 and didnt even work for over a YEAR and when it DID work the mechanic is so retarded it may as well not anyway. Thank god ER went back to 99% DS2 mechanics under the hood, which retards like you, little bitch tourists, dont even know
>>736652631>in other words, youre akin to a maggot on a lower level of existencesays the guy who got filtered by sekiro lmfao
>>736652602Bloodborne sucks lmao. Fagstation game released 20 years ago.
>>736652874Bloodborne isn't bad but it's far too fast.
DS3 isn't comfy and thats the only critique. Miyazaki really made the bleakest nerve wracking game possible.
>>736652843sekiro is the easiest from game once you understand the mechanics thougheverbeitif you can beat guitar hero on medium, sekiro is nothingremember kid, who published both sekiro and guitar hero?and also, are you seriously so pathetic youre bragging about being able to play guitar hero songs, thinking thats hardcore? holy fuck lmao
>>736644861Exactly the actual bad quests are Hyetta's, where to give her the 3rd grape you need to find her in a random bush you probably already rode past 5 hours ago, and Millicent's, because why would you ever go back to where you fought the tree spirit.The best quest is Sellen's because she's best girl and I'm still mad she randomly turns into a ball.
>>736636218
>>736638363Anor Londo is shit in both games.
>>736652958majulahomesafewarmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpSoGZa3Hrw
I enjoy From threads finally turning into Final Fantasy threads where every thread is just the other games' fans shitting on the titular game
>insecure ds2 nigs immediately start seething at the mention of de3
"Build variety" is for slow no reflexes boomer faggots. Real men prefer no-build games like Sekiro, that's all about skill rather than cheesing obstacles by farming levels and equipment upgrades
I will cut. I will roll. I will chug. I will shield. I will parry, riposte, and backstab.And short of open world slop, I will like it.
>>736653091https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DpT9R8s0Y
>>736653002By far the best hub
>>736640345lmao, you can hear the gibbering seethe in this post
>>736643391This guy praises the sun
>>736653091sekiro is literally piss easy once you stop playing it like a dark souls gameit is outright only difficult if you trick yourself into a trap of playing it like dark souls
>>736650552maybe ur just a bad stinky tranny noob? did u even think of that??
>>736653157I just realized the reason I love the song so much is because (well ignoring that its just good and has that sense of foreboding longing) is because it sounds very reminisient to Ice Cavern OoT in many many ways. the little jingles and dings. xyophones. very sad lonely songs. but both made me feel warm and safe despite that and ice cavern literally being unmentling infinitely cold ice. Zoras Domain was my safe spot when my dad was beating my mom and its the only thing thats made me feel safe that and the song of healing and majula too
>>736652946>sekiro is the easiest from game once you understand the mechanics thougheverbeitwhich makes it even funnier that you got filtered, lil bro
>>736639014I ignored ds2 for a long time because of its reputation, and while it has its problem, I honestly like ds2.It feels like a progression of 1, while 3 is borneslop.It's funny, all the things people praise ds3 for, are exactly all the things I hate ds3 for.
>>736636218Ds2 is still a better adventure than 3 will ever be. Also nothing in any game comes as close to majula as being the perfect hub. Da3 was mediocre slop and Miyazaki phoned it in.
>>736642668> fans felt betrayed by the game's dumb downed, press the roll button at the right time, gameplay. thats basically demon's souls.
>>736654067I mean honestly it's Soulsplayers in general. Remember the outrage for ER when a DLC shield was actually good at blocking shit? They don't WANT to do anything but roll.
>>736636218I agree OP. I'm going to draw a firm line and no one below that line is allowed to make fun of DaS3.______________________________________Oh shit I just drew DaS3.
>>736642668What I love about this “thinking like an adventurer press the roll button at the right time” quote that the schizos loves parroting every single thread is that it’s stolen from a Matthewmatosis video. The same guy who made that video shitting on DS2 that forever ruined any discussion involving it.DS2fags literally steal the words from the man that raped their asses in a pathetic attempt to pretend they’re part of the team and not the annoying retard no one likes. Pathetic.
>>736652920I got this feeling playing as well.The sound design in particular. Every enemy screams and screeches at you and even the hit sounds are harsh on your ears
>Undead Settlement>Road of Sacrifices>Cathedral of the Deep>Farron Keep>CatacombsIs there any game with a worse area progression than this? 5 horrendous levels right after one another.
>>736656490Did it get better after that?I dropped the game exactly after the shitty big skeleton """boss""".Vividly remember getting to the next zone, irythil or whatever and thinking>This looks more interesting, let's leave it for tomorrowAnd then i just never turned the game on again. It's the only fromsoft I never finished. I guess I was just fatigued by souls games at that oment in time since all 3 were developed in a surprisingly short amount of time. And that exact stretch of zones just pushed me over the edge.
I'd like to play it but I don't want to pay for artificially inflated prices.
>>736649835>not enough build varietyi really dont get that one, cause i had to make multiple accounts just because the 10 slots you get wasnt enough for all my builds
>>736636218>>736639014Ds3 doesn't work because it tries to be bloodborne while not having the same mechanics and swiftness of bloodborne.That said it's still an "okay" action game though.
>>736658621It does get better for the most part, with Irithyll being one of the better zones. Has a cool boss aswell.I'd say that if you made it through the zones I listed, you might as well go through Irithyll and if you still can't get into it, drop it.The DLCs for DS3 are the best part of it in my opinion.
>>736658873In DS3 different builds are challenge runs where you gimp yourself on purpose until NG+. It's not really an exploration of different playstyles like in previous games because some of them only come online and start giving you actual advantages when the game is nearly over.
finally after 15 years we can discuss ds3 in peace
Dark Souls 2 will always be the retarded black sheep of the series
>>736659101No, that would be Elden Ring.DS3 is just DS1 with smoother controls.Elden Ring decided to implement Bloodborne and Sekiro bosses into a game barely faster than DS2. It wasn't even as smooth as DS3.
>>736658862The jew fears the samurai.
