He has a point.
>>736637070buy an ad
>>736637070How would one distinguish between the "overpraise" and "genuine enjoyment" of indie games, though?
>>736637070But early Access scams are okay when indies do it
no shit look at how much indie junk has been topping the steam charts for the past decade
Do these overpraised games also cost $70 though?
its true just look at crimson barfest
>>736637070>Not out of love.>Not out of loyalty.>But out of spite.>Read that again.
>>736637172you don't because that would get in the way of the coping
>>736637070>MARATROON IS MADE BY TANNIES!!>CRIMSON DESERT IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE! I'M MOVING TO KOREA!
>our games aren't shit... gamers just HATE US FOR NO REASONwhy is it always projection with these (((people)))
>>736637172>>736637478
15 to 20 bucks for a passion project vs 70 dollars plus another 30 or 40 for a season pass made by trannies who hate me. Tough choice.
it's not indie vs aaa, it's western slop vs japanese soul
>the games you're praising aren't even good, AAA is just that shitok
>one day, for no reason at all...where have I heard this one before
what ever happened to enjoying mediocre games? i used to rent tons of shit ps2 games from blockbuster and no i would never say they were masterpieces but i had fun playing them so whats the issue?why is enjoying mediocre games a bad thing??
>>736637653>i played every trash as kid because i was bored cause there was nothing else today>nowadays i don't play trash anymore but i get mad when others dont play trashgrow up little fat bitch
>>736637070Hey OP you can just write out the point yourself and pretend you made it like an original post instead of being a twitter posting gay retard faggot
Roblox
>>736637070He's right but we are not ready for that conversation.
>>736637621If only.90% of FOMO garbage is western.
>>7366377375th time this week i see someone mentioning the idea of making roblox games. maybe it's a sign that i should just do that.
>>736637740If he's right and the games that are praised are mediocre, what does that make the AAA games?
>>736637695I still play trash on purpose even though I don't enjoy it and I don't even expect to enjoy it. What now? Gonna kill yourself perhaps?
Romeo is a Dead Man was kino
Maybe try to make game FOR the audience instead of against them then.
>>736637070He's clearly talking about Expedition 33.
>>736637070there's no hatred for AAA gamingthere's hatred for dishonest bullshitand rightly so
>>736637953>There's hatred for dishonest bullshitAnd making games woke like Dragon Age: The Veilguard.
>>736637070Not really. It's more like games have gotten so bad we're praising mediocre games cause at least they're something. If a lot of recent titles that were praised for being "good" were released years before they'd get called decent.
>>736637070The same could be said of over praising the western game industry because of a hatred of Japanese RPGs in the 2000s.This is honestly just course correction
>>736638137Most apparent with Crimson Desert.
>>736637653>what ever happened to enjoying mediocre [anything]?Ease of access to every medium out there.Way back you could only watch what was screening on theaters or airing on television, not much choice.Then home video gave you the possibility to get the tapes you want now and then.Now you can watch, play, read, listen to pretty much anything you want through the internet.We got into a culture of expecting everything to be a genre defining masterpiece, when this expectation is absurd.
No, retards just won't play 6 or 7/10 games anymore. Go rush another game, faggot.
>>736638035it's not even about the games being woke. It's about them being formulaic and unoriginal while pretending to be the second coming of the Christ. Starfield did this to a great extent. Crimson Cringe is a great example of an honest game. It's not reinventing the wheel and it never pretended it did. It's just Skyrim 2, and that's good enough
>>736638137>well no but actually yesHow about we just call mediocre games mediocre.Or if only that'd be so easy, but the ones praising them are mostly casuals who have played like 10 games in their lifetime and/or don't know better. Won't make a difference.
>>736637070This sounds reasonable until you remember that DAO was almost 20 years ago and there's now a generation of casuals who never experienced decent narrative games.
pretty muche33 would never have got the praise it did if it had been released by ubisoft or square enix
>>736637070It's not out of spite, the people praising mediocre non-AAA games now are the same people who used to be praising mediocre AAA games, but since all AAA games slid from mediocre to garbage those people were displaced into the non-AAA market.
>>736637070LMAO the seamonkies fellating E33 and CD won't like this
>>736638540Neither would've greenlit the story.
>>736637070Mediocre video games don't exist. Other media such as film and music have certain ground rules you have to follow but a video game can be literally anything. Graphics, Story, Music, Gameplay, they're all optional to a degree. At the end of the day, a game is a package deal and you either enjoy one or you don't.You see people praising GB Tetris when it's been outdone in every aspect by some of the many sequels and spinoffs of the series. Is it a bad game just because others like it exist? No, it's still a fun way to kill time in its own right and a unique experience from its peers.Just because you "almost" enjoyed a game, doesn't mean it's "mediocre" or "flawed". By failing to entertain you, it failed completely as a video game and deserves a label none other than "bad".
>>736637070>niche is king shitters when a genre they don't want to play is getting praise
>>736637405tranny mad LOL
>>736637070no shit, most indie games suck as well
Hating AAA gaming is unfathomably based.
>>736637070The first thing that comes up on this guy's YouTube page is a playthrough of God of War 2018. I think that speaks for itself.
>>736638883He's like Fighting Cowboy and Gamer's Little Playground, he plays everything and uploads it. He's also the one who got banned for a while because he shot a female NPC in his RDR2 videos and for whatever reason that was a controversy years ago. This must've been before you started posting on 4chan because this was all over the board for obvious reasons.
>>736637070Maybe they should ask themselves where that hate comes from and why it exists.
>>736637070>You are wrong when you enjoy things.>You are wrong when you talk about enjoying things. I hate this hobby so much.
>>736638861it's low IQ behaviour
>most of the thread proceeds to ignore the second half of the statement which is the actual point of itGenuinely blinded by hate.
>>736639338it's also midwit behavior and high iq behavior
>>736639481no we understood that part perfectly. you don't need spite to favor average games over heaping AAA shityou do need spite in order to make your games unlikeable to your target audience though
>>736639894You are never the target audience.
>>736637070>I simply know this, without providing any examples or studies of my own, because... I just do, alright?What can actually be demonstrated is that what is happening now was actually the norm, but done without editorial supervision on a popular platform by just about anybody instead of games journalists, who have regrettably and very explicitly compromised for decades now.
>>736639894You didn't understand shit.>you don't need spite>"heaping AAA shit"That's spite. And that's fine, because they really are shit.>favor average gamesMediocre games. Which are nonetheless slop and should not be "favored" just for sucking slightly less than garbage that's almost socially acceptable to hate at this point. These days if you're not playing niche stuff almost exclusively, you're part of the problem.
>>736640112medicore means average btw. why are you trying to reframe what's obviously been said to mean something completely different? average games are fine and not "slop" nigga. a games like stellar blade is the perfect example of something average
These retards think praising mediocre games, especially foreign developed games, is somehow sticking it to the man
>>736640417There's nuance. And what's making them so mediocre is that they're competently made but utterly uninspired games that people will flock to because they can't actually handle those that are original but flawed. There's nothing to gain from praising those or even playing them. It just kills time. You could go play some indie "roguelite" nobody cares about for the same amount of time and still gain nothing, but it wouldn't be any different.
>>736640760the man already stuck it to himselfand by that i mean a knife... to his nose
>>736640760If the man thinks that he's having it stuck to him every time a game other than his gets praised then they kinda are
>>736640098>without providing any examples or studies of my ownWell, there's shit like Stray, every single roguelike, roguelite and deckbuilder, Silksong.
>>736637070black myth wukong was also AAA though
>>736640912you accused me of not understanding the OP and i had to correct you on what mediocre means. i can't hear your niggerbabble behind all that pie on your face. stop wasting my fucking time
>>736641034Not sure why you'd bring up Stray specifically when nobody remembers it anymore, but unlike roguelike deckbuilders it was a relatively original passion project that did however blow up more than it was ever meant to. In such cases it's more of a problem of a game being shoved in the faces of people who'd never be interested in it otherwise.
>>736637070Kill yourself
>>736641194Merely proving my point by displaying how your brain can hardly even function. No point addressed, nuance ignored, stuck on semantics because you have nothing else to say.Your time is worthless.
>>736639949Nobody seems to be the target audience given the sales
>>736641421yeah sorry i don't want to split hairs with you all day faggot. i think that's boring and not productive. if you want someone to cry to go find a """girlfriend""" on discord or something. faggot.
>>736641034>silksong raped /v/ so hard that it's now blindly defending aaa
>>736637172just play the games you want to play , games you look at the trailers or announcements and think for yourself, hey that looks pretty good
seething
>>736637172A good sign is usually a discussion about the game rather "dude i am having one. Last after another"
>>736637172Discussion of plot, gameplay, etc vs constantly going on about other games and how it's so much better or giving praise like "Breath of fresh air" that makes it hinge on current games instead of on it's own.
>>736637814Roblox is in a cursed state right now. 8 years ago was peak time to get into it, now there's so many lawsuits, restrictions, and saturation that it's a toss up to try. You can still give it a go, the skills are transferrable. T. Made games in 2020 to minor success
same applies to games to be honest, this sandnigger is just coping because he lives by making youtube slop content of aaa+ games, and his gameplay is godawful even
>>736637867You don't respect your time.
>>736637070Be less easy to hate.
>>736637070Correct. It’s easy to hate big developers, it takes courage to hate indie games. I want 99% of these projects crushed
He's on about Samson, which IS actually shit. Just played it, how do you fuck up a brawler.
