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I'm so glad vns will forever gatekeep themselves because you have to sit down and just read for 40 hours, automatically filtering out 99% of the soulless miserable normalfags
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lol you advertise youtube videos for free
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oh I remember that guy. I wonder what video caused me to unsubscribe
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You copied this thread directly from a tweet.
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you just know these niggers will gleefully slurp up ironic weeb tumblr adjacent teen slop like class off '09 and ddlc
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>>736646120
>ddlc
excluding the comedically creepypasta-tier AND THEN SHE LOOKED AT ME WITH HYPERREALISTIC EYES bits, i'd say the work itself is a respectable weeaboo OELVN
it's not like mental problems or meta elements are there only for ironic weebs
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>>736645924
I just download a save file with progress at the last hour so I don't have to waste 40 hours on a trashy story. I do this for most single player games that clearly aren't worth the time investment.
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>>736647705
>I'm a subhuman goyim cattle
uhh ok...? good for you
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>>736645924
>long video essay on visual novels
Alright, I'm gonna watch that and see what the fuck is gonna be said
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>>736645924
>pretentious 4-hour video essay filled with spoilers, made for an audience in which 99% never touched a visual novel, but think that watching this will give them a degree in discussing the topic.
Zoomers don't deserve the right to breathe
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>>736648648
>I'm a subhuman goyim cattle
i would have thought that all that reading would've improved your grammar somewhat. unfortunate to see that that isn't the case. try reading a real book next time, maybe you'll learn a thing or two
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>>736648971
>try reading a real book next time
no cute girls there, not reading that shit
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>>736645924
>VN moaning
>OP pic mainly covers dating sims, and a couple choice driven VNs

Regardless, VNs gatekeep themselves on multiple fronts, primarily accessibility in the market, pricing and niche appeal.

VNs are harder to find for people, especially in the West without prior interest and knowledge to find them, which is why some coming to Steam and other western storefronts is a massive boon for the genre.

Pricing wise, VNs are rather expensive compared to other genres, and whilst it's understandable why, to a regular buyer, VNs are basically fancy long books or webcomics with voice acting and pictures. The very fact that other genres use simplified methods from VNs to show characters talking or scenes happening, cheapens the public perception of what a VN should do to cost as much as they do.

Finally with niche appeal, VNs struggle to justify themselves to the mass market due to their goals being different compared to mass appeal as well as an design method born from an era where games weren't expected to be control focused. Adventure games of the past are practically gone now, and the only new instances are either hyper niche VNs, a rare quality popular IP (e.g. Ace Attorney) or some American parody that attempts to subvert the genre that isn't well known enough to even bother, and instead become fotm for their shock value and crude tones.

For the longest time I was against starting a VN, simply because most of my life I've spent controlling games, so just reading sounded dull. Then I got a steam deck and decided to read some in bed, and now I'm kinda hooked.
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Is there any good OELVN besides Katawa Shoujo and maybe Doki Doki? I've been giving some chinese ones like Hungry Lamb and Murders on the Yangtze River and they were pretty good, which ended up getting me curious to check out other non-JP VNs.
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Everyone calls Tokimeki Memorial a VN but I finally played it and it's not a novel at all
It doesn't even have plotlines, just a bunch of random events and making number go up/down math gameplay. There's no story to "read." You have to imagine your own story made up of the misc stuff that happens
Might as well call Civilization a novel at that point
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Isn't the girl in the middle MC's sister? You can't romance someone related to (You)
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>>736645924
There are better long form videos about dating sims, especially without western ironic subversions on the genre.
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>>736649728
There's a yuri VN called Please Be Happy and one of the Katawa Shoujo writers was involved with it. There's no sexual content, but I liked the story and the characters, it has the same comfy atmosphere Katawa Shoujo had despite the different setting.
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Oh I think I remember that VN popping up on my Steam home page every now and then, I'm gonna check it out.
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Test
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What's a good visual novel where I can romance hot guys
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>>736649997
all video essays are shit, no exceptions
only normgroid pseudos watch them
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>>736645924
If your shitty video essay is longer than 15 minutes, I'm not watching it and calling you a pretentious FAGGOT!
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>>736649728
I remember Crimson Gray being alright.
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>>736645924
I watched his video in the background while painting some 40k stuff and he's both based for actually playing these games and wanting to dicuss why romance in western games is stuck in RPGs and a massive faggot for having a fucking melty over the MC in Doukyuusei being aggressive with Miho.
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>>736645924
Isn't that the guy that cried some writer from Bethesda cucked him or some shit, youtubers are such fucking retards.
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>>736645924
>he says this when a big chunk of VNfans are trannies
lol
lmao even



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