What class are you gonna play?
Gonna roll with a Page and relax with my time playing
>Knights of Cygnus are added, but remade so that they're no longer explorer spinoffs but actual classes>no benefits like 10% or 6 stats per level>4th job added and level cap 200>skills balanced so they're don't completely mog explorers, especially in terms of rangyes or no?
>>736650497I don't trust Nexon to do anything of that correctly.
>>736649646I/L or some type of fighter
>>736650497They literally just need to finish up the rest of the instructors. Mihile is severely underrated.
>>736650497Yes but only if they don't touch Mihile's core playstyle. I don't need to cover other people but I like actively parrying attacks.
>>736650727As much as I love Mihile, having "named" characters is fucking stupid.Mihile (and other potential job instructor classes) should've been a branching job from base Cygnus Knights.
>>736650497no. at that point just find a new, better aesthetic.cygnus and the entire black mage plotline should be dropped. just have a maple world without black mage, that's infinitely more interesting.
>>736650943what could be a better aesthetic than cyggies?they've got a kino region and the elemental classes are also kino, only if they expanded on it
>>736650943>and the entire black mage plotline should be droppedThat's VERY heavily implied already.The NPCs in the GMS-exclusive Ride or Die event are basically superhumans that overpower transcendents (Pink Bean / Black Mage / Time Goddess lady / etc.) and are basically the police force that watches over the multiverse. These people explicitly state that there are tons of different worlds: some where the player wins; where the player loses, and where the player doesn't even exist due to the black mage not being a thing.Those NPCs are seen in trailers for maplestory classic. However, their whole purpose is to hunt down another GMS-exclusive superboss named Kazax who's trying to do some dumb shit probably I don't know the rest of the lore with him because the event sucked and I started skipping things. Kazas comes to the Maple world (You) are in and starts creating (not controlling but creating) bosses to "test" you to see if he could win or something I don't know.Anyway I expect Kazas to be the new "big bad" with mega end-game being a raid boss-style fight where you just drive him out of your world.
I’m sure maple story is fun if you’re one of those slant eyed samurai ninja geishas. I play white person games like forging steel bars and transmuting them into automobiles in my two car garage.
>>736651301Also the whole point of this preamble that I forgot to specify is that those NPCs exist in the videos for Maplestory Classic
>>736651386Im not reading that shit gook. Shoot yourself for this, you will be punished bigly and severely with epic proportions.
>>736651301>>736651386yeah, i saw in the comments of that manji video that there was a RoD NPC in it. thanks for the additional context. i'm cautiously optimistic about it now.whatever happens, i sincerely hope they don't go down the "player character is a god" road they went down with numaple. i don't really want a plotline at all, if i'm being honest.
I think I played this for 30 minutes with my garbage Aussie internet back in the day. Any worth without nostalgia glasses? Just a mindless MMO to grind while watching animu right?
>>736653735Spot on, it is a slow-paced and simple mmo to grind while listening to music, watching stuff on the side or chatting while grinding. Without nostalgia there isn't anything special here outside of being a 2d side scroller styled older mmo.While they are changing things and adding completely new stuff aswell it's something you wouldn't necessarily even know about as a player who didn't play much or at all. It's up to the closed test and the full release whenever that is to see how it all shapes up.
>>736649646Depends on what the changes are. But if either are in a decently playable condition and not complete ass it would probably be f/p or bandit
Would maple benefit from a trinity system? Tank classes can taunt bosses and shit
>>736653735I always likened Maplestory to a digital fidget spinner.Something that keeps your hands occupied while your mind is elsewhere.If that sounds like something you enjoy, you'll enjoy Maplestory. Otherwise it's most likely not worth playing.
>>736654218taunt a mapwide 1/1?
Which warrior class is the most fun?
There is no content in the game. "Raids"/bossing are ass, it's just a mindless grind. How is this going to be any better than what it is?
>>736656153They all play rather similar in 1st and 2nd job. With no information on 3rd or 4th job it's hard to say how much that part of the game could change.My guess would be that Hero is a safe choice while Paladin might get good in 3rd or 4th job if Nexon decides to finally make them good. Or they are just left untouched and remain whatever.Dark Knights plays a bit differently in 3rd and 4th job, however if they keep berserk where you have to balance around being at half hp or so it might be something you don't enjoy if you picked warrior to be tanky.While things can still change, axe Fighter with bleed could be interesting unless bleed remains mediocre. This is more or less something I'd pick if I wanted to play warrior and somewhat of a safe pick future-wise.Page is something I'd play if I wanted to be tanky, but mainly just hoping they buff them in 3rd job and 4th job making their elemental stuff better and interesting and potentially providing something new for the party in terms of support. Other than that it's just very similar to Fighter in 2nd job, you just have Threaten while Fighter has Rage.Spearman with the new datamines showing final attack giving HP leech might indicate they aren't thinking about bringing berserk back which means it could be a comfortable high HP job. It's also a job I'd say feels a bit more unique in 3rd job due to the skills they get.All of them are solid picks honestly and I think if you enjoy being tanky and knowing you'll be able to take hits and not just collapse from couple it's a pretty good starting point. It's just currently really hard to say as the closed test stuff got datamined and bunch of things got tweaked around yet again and we have no actual footage or gameplay in terms of how it actually plays out. During/after closed test I'd say it's a bit easier to answer some questions, but even then future changes and updates might change everything regarding what we used to know.
the absolute state of nu-maple
>>736649646I was considering playing it, but then I found out 99% of this game is pure toxicity and I lost interest. I don't think it's fun spending 1000 hours trying to prevent other parties from killstealing your mobs and constantly swapping channels in hopes of finding one that isn't populated. This type of game design needs to stay in the past where it belongs.
>>736657045Absolutely disgusting.
>>736657045Do bugmen in korea get off from this?
We've reached flop levels unthinkable before
>>736649646Going to try an archer this time around since movement looks to be a lot smoother vs real classic MS. Never played one before so not sure if going BM or MM though.And if we eventually get 4th jobs everyone loves some sharp eyes
fuck Nexon, give me my 3 fire arrows back
>>736656153they all play the same in 2nd job, hell even Crusader and White Knight still basically play the same up until 4th job
>>736649646Reminder that we have a /vg/ thread now:>>>/vg/562978925>>>/vg/562978925>>>/vg/562978925
>>736657045>Add another layer of iframe>Add more unavoidable boss attack
>>736650497Maybe it's because I wasn't around anymore when Cygnus Knights were released but I never really understood them as a classTo me it just seems like a better version of an explorer class, like why would I make an Assassin when I can make a Night Walker that gets Flash Jump at 2nd job and a multi target skill that ignores minimum range also at 2nd job? Sure I can't get over level 120 but it's not like the average player ever got past level 120 anyway back in the day
how do people stomach playing dit when they had no mobbing
>>736657045koreans cream their pants over this
For anyone dooming about nerfs, remember that this will be the first time the game will be available to a huge amount of people and for a long time, the MapleCon test was like 10 minutes long and the MapleCafe event was 2 hours long, this will be a whole week of testing with around 5000 people playing it so most of the changes will happen after this closed test
>autistic retards actually crying about numbers in an unreleased gamelolnerfs are a good thing because they make the game harder and filter out minmaxing autists
>>736670376Nobody should be "dooming" in the first place because we already know that core formulas like the accuracy / defense / stat damage etc. stuff are being altered too.We've even seen earrings have attack and critical damage on them.We don't know how things are until we actually play it ourselves which is why they made the statement about not datamining the game.
>>736657045Isn't this the same as standing in one spot killing Zakum for optimal DPS? Literally nothing changed in 20 years
pay2win ruined nu-maplewill it ruin classic?
>>736670931No. The thing he's attacking is literally a testing dummy meant to replicate boss stats (you can change the stats of the statue).What he's trying to show off is one of the newest 6th job skills, which had a showcase last night. Basically, the lore in Maplestory is that you're a "Fated Person" or whatever and that causes you to develop into a literal god-killing machine. The 6th job and above maps in the game revolve around a resource called "sol erda" which is essentially pure life force stem cell energy and can be used to do literally anything you want, with those being too weak to handle it just disintegrating. At the point in the game where you get this newest skill (gif related) you would have decimated the Black Mage and tons of other boss monsters even stronger than the Black Mage, canonically leading you towards becoming a god-like being.The skill is both a lore skill and an overpowered skill that showcases a lot of what's wrong with modern maplestory>You get a literal angel as a summon with the description being how the player "collects erda and forms a familiar" >This angel has 30 levels>Level 1 - 10 it does strong DPS and can be pressed while out to activate an AoE stun wherever it's at (this bypasses the normal stun resistance and the origin stun resistance) >Level 11 - 20 it evolves and now can save you from death every 10 minutes too>Level 21 - 30 it evolves a final time and can now be "pressed" while out using a different activation skill key to activate a massive nuke of damage every two minutesThe one in the gif is how it's supposed to look in its third form, but one of the things Nexon also decided to add in addition to this skill is "cosmetics" to adorn your angel summon. That little fairy thing you see floating around the statue and popping up on the side is one of the fifty or so new cosmetics being released alongside this skill.
Actually crazy how madwolf is still posting in these threads.
>>736656153Well, nexon just gave all itd attention to DK and told the other 2 warriors that it's fine to be a 1st job warrior until 130, so probably the class that the devs liked.
>>736671314Depends on what you mean. Modern Maple is fine but the effects of earlier monetization linger everywhere.I don't believe Classic will have old monetization but I do believe it'll carry over the effects it had (i.e. it will be "pay for convenience" but not "pay to win")
>>736671535It just looks like this to me. How can anyone find all this visual vomit appealing?
>>736671627>Modern Maple is fine
>>736672197When you're permanently squinting you don't notice
>still no inviteit's over....
>>736672197People tend to say this is a post-Big Bang thing but in the early Big Bang days the skills weren't anything like that, they were still very similar to pre-Big Bang skills, when did they decide to make skills so fucking flashy?
>>736673523the korean whales demanded it
Remember that feeling of going on a trip down the Orbis Tower?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCwJu5Buz0
What did /v/ think of Black Heaven?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc7c89g9WX4
how long will it survive thoughif it doesn't rake in enough nexon will just pull the plug
>>736677623Maybe, but who cares? It'll still be a fun trip for what it is, not everything needs to be a long-term timesink.Reboot turned out to be overwhelmingly successful for the global branch, and remains the most popular global server by far. Classic is the other thing global players have been wanting for a long time.
Serious question, how different is Classic to OG? I hear exp rates might be a bit faster but overall when I'm playing what's going to be different? I mean I get its classic so the whole idea isn't to be different, but if that's the case then idk if I'd play mainly because everything to experience I already experienced.
>>736678269Nobody can answer that question accurately.The developers have said they are implementing changes and aren't aiming to replicate a pure vanilla experience. At this stage we know a lot of the stat formulas are very different and there will be a new area sitting between Ellinia and the Sleepywood Dungeon.
>>736672370The only thing that's significant is the resort. That's the only thing you don't get access to freely, and even achieving that level requires insane amounts of money each month just to maintain it. And even then it only has value if you don't have an established legion already and you aren't planning on doing challenge world which gives you 20 Legion characters at level 200 to keep on your main world.
>>736649646Cleric so I will always get invited into PQs
>>736681043It depends on how good heal is now since that got mega nerfed by the numbers
>>736681584It's a good thing that it can no longer be spammed as a viable attacking skill
>>736650290Same
>>736651207it's an aesthetic that doesn't need to exist in maple
>>736670931>Maple had disgusting visual vomit shitting up the entire screen 20 years agoWhy lie about that lol
>>736681584I doubt they'd make them useless, and I think people will still appreciate not having to use healing pots. Bless is also still a thing.
where's my invite bwos...
>Nexon was scamming Koreans with fake rates againlmao
Is anyone even surprised anymore?What is this, like, the third time or something?
>>736650497no
>>736682372good. it's what those insects deserve.
Should Aqua Road be in Classic?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtw0sIBLjrwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc5Qqw7ABAU
>>736672197>screen covering cutscenehow does this even work in group content/outdoors?
I'll be making a Priest to Mystic Door fellow anons into helpful friendly leveling areasand lava
MaplePlagiarism.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS4Dd7ULvMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ3egkrlMZYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OtunbMOD58
Should Root Abyss be in Classic at some point?
>>736684149I have no idea what that is so no
>>736684205If you don't know, then you are not well-informed enough to have a worthwhile opinion.
>>736649646Is classic maple out already?
>>736684295No, only the beta invitations are being sent out. We're still preparing the /v/ guild though
>>736684149decent bosses, the story wasn't that retarded, I say sure.
>>736684149If the goal is to have a world without the black mage it wouldn't make sense to have the other transcendents around too
>>736684714Did they say anything specifically about not having the black mage? I thought the black mage stuff goes way back to the wizet story (although they didn't think too deeply about it).Also isn't it confirmed with the dray86 promo that dimension travelers exist in this world? Technically it's still part of the maplestory multiverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePUZA7yRJVM
>>736683936I know the first one is a blatant rip off of a kill bill track, but man does it slap.
>>736684864IIRC the black mage plot started after the Temple of Time was added in
>>736684149Yes. These were fun bosses and more endgame content should be seen as a good thing.Maybe recreate the PQ so it's an actual PQ with stages and puzzles.
>caring about the dogshit story
>>736685241What the fuck is wrong with you?
Remember to come to the /vg/ thread>>>/vg/562978925>>>/vg/562978925>>>/vg/562978925
>>736670376fire arrow has always hit one mob in classic retard
Private servers are more classic than this shit btw.
>>736685595You still haven't taken your meds yet, schizo?
>>736685595ok, so go play a private server, madwolf
>>736685595They've said it themselves: if you want a 1:1 recreation, go play a private server.
>>736685926I'll give them respect for actually saying that if they actually did say it.
I wonder if they're changing final attack to proc off crusher? Giving spearman a heal that they can't utilize in 3rd would be troll.
>>736685443they had changed it to shoot 3 arrows in the previous tests, but now it's back to only 1 arrow like it used to be which is boringthere is a reason no one played F/P compared to I/L and Cleric
>>736673523>when did they decide to make skills so fucking flashyit was something gradual. I'd say the biggest steps are RED (2013, explorer revamp), V (2016, 5th job) and New Age (2023, 6th job)
>>736685273to be fair the way the lore / story is handled is dogshit
>>736685241>>736688364what was the latest story like?
>>736688017RED was tolerable, V was when it was offensively bad.
>>736688915Here is one of the recent major bosses.
>>736689074I was asking about story bro
>>736651264JMS style really isn't that hard
>>736689118>Kaling was a fox Anima who was chosen by the will of the world to aid the elders of Grandis. Imbued with the divine blessings of the Overseers, Kaling ascended to sagehood and received a nearly infinite lifespan. Kaling became a researcher in Odium and aided the elders of Grandis with their experiments to fuse Vessels with Godspheres in order to turn them into Adversaries, who would then fight against the Ancient Gods. Kaling's talents were recognized by the elders, with Zigang - the leader of the elders - taking her on as his protégé. By the end of the war, the elders began seeking a Vessel to turn into an Adversary and defeat the last god standing. Though some Vessels appeared amongst the researchers, many believed that Kaling, despite her talents, would become a defective Vessel. A researcher named Aroa, who was close friends with Kaling, warned her that the experiments to become an Adversary were brutal, and that she may feel unending pain or even experience death as a side effect. Aroa also warned her that the fatal flaw of Adversaries created in Odium was that they would lose their humanity and forget their memories and their feelings for loved ones, reduced to only caring about becoming an Adversary and fulfilling their assigned destiny. Despite knowing the risks, Kaling gladly agreed to undergo the experiments, as she had a strong desire for peace and had full faith that the experiments would bring about that peace. However, though Kaling underwent the brutal experiments, she was ultimately deemed a defective Vessel.>Over time, Kaling slowly began losing herself as a consequence of the experiments. Aroa soon discovered that Kaling had created four mechanical monsters imbibed with energy. Kaling explained that while the researchers had Vessels and Godspheres, they lacked the power to fill the Vessels in order to make them stronger.
>>736689074I hope we never get humanoid bosses in Classic World
>>736689118>>736689229>She revealed that while her four machines were small, they could amass great power by consuming other small monsters, which could then give rise to an extremely powerful Adversary. Despite Aroa and the other researchers recognizing the signs of contamination in Kaling, they turned a blind eye to her experiments, refusing to believe that the contamination could affect even the best of them. Towards the end of the war, the contamination deepened inside Kaling, erasing her morality and causing her to fall completely to evil. After she released her four monsters - Hundun, Qiongqi, Taowu, and Taotie - into the world, her creations began consuming fiends and terrorizing the entirety of Grandis with their impunity. Aroa soon confronted Kaling and ordered her to terminate her research immediately, claiming that it was a complete failure. Aroa explained to Kaling that her monsters had become known as the Four Perils, and that they were causing great harm upon the people of Grandis. However, Kaling retorted that Grandis was already embroiled in war and chaos, even without her creations. She then claimed that once the Four Perils consumed enough monsters, she would combine them and create an extremely powerful Adversary who could defeat all the Ancient Gods and win the war.>Before Kaling's experiment could finish, however, the Adversaries defeated the last Ancient God at the site where the holy city of Cernium would one day be founded. At the end of the war, the elders and the researchers realized that they could no longer turn a blind eye to Kaling's madness, and so they had her seized from Odium. As she furiously demanded to be let go of, Zigang stepped in and ordered for her to released. Upon seeing Zigang, Kaling addressed him as her master and asked him to tell them what he had always told her – how he had always known just how much of an outstanding researcher she was.
>>736689118kaling was built for big hoyoung cock
>>736688017>>736689037Not only were skills massively inflated like balloon tits but so werecosmetics. Damage numbers got so long, pets and androids and familiars following you, nx effects that made your sillhouette expand 4x whenever you jump or attack, they clearly stopped giving a fuck at a certain point. Even the introduction of skill opacity didn't help. Everything is just so obnoxiously loud and big for no good reason.
>>736689229>>736689292>When Zigang said nothing, Kaling asked him why he was looking at her like that, reminding him how he had always, without any doubt, believed that the world needed her research. However, Zigang then asked her what she planned to do after finishing her research. When Kaling remained silent, he sharply asked her what she was planning to do with her beasts in a world that had barely just ended one war. When Kaling was still unable to reply, Zigang declared that she had created monsters, adding that the blame lay with him, not with her. Kaling appealed to Zigang, calling him her master, but Zigang merely declared that he was disavowing her, and that she was no longer his disciple. With that, Zigang turned his back on her and walked away. Refusing to give up, Kaling continued calling after him, reaching out with all her might towards the back of the man who she realized was no longer her master, but none of her cries were answered. Kaling was then sealed away by Tai Yu, another defective Vessel, trapped under the hardest and heaviest rock in Odium, which Tai Yu bound in place with golden chains and countless sealing talismans. Tai Yu also sealed most of the Four Perils, though the elders took Hundun, the strongest of the four, and secretly fused him with the World Heart before imprisoning him in the laboratory, where he served as the power source for the floating citadel. The researchers also used some of Kaling's old research to create the Constables - mechanical dolls made in the researchers' image from before the contamination had touched them, which they left behind to maintain the laboratory in their absence.
>>736689229>>736689292thanks chatgpt for copy pasting from the wikinot gonna read allat
>>736689379You asked for the story, that's the story.
>>736689379>insists on getting the story>brain shuts downkek
>>736688915your character (who at this point is a chosen one) solos the black mage and it's revealed that there's a stronger bad guy out there and the black mage was actually preparing (you) and the maple world to defeat this guy(you), a special person, are not yet capable of defeating this bigger bad guy so you defeat his strongest underlings (twelve total) and in the process become stronger so you can (eventually) defeat this bad guyof course I'm skipping a lot of shit, but the issue is that the above story applies to all classes (instead of them having their own storylines to fit the above story). You picked an explorer? (you) are the chosen one and dialogue is mostly the same. You picked a class with established lore (for example, Mercedes)? (you) are the chosen one and dialogue is mostly the same. A new story that perhaps has ramifications for a certain class is released? Sorry can't have that because the story is the same regardless of what class you picked.
>>736650497>Knights of Cygnus addedNo
Is millennial baiting really the future of entertainment media?Nothing wrong with it, but it's just really strange to me. Why aren't we marketing kids games to kids anymore? Is it just aging population or is there something else going on here? Are Gen Z / Alpha simply not interested in video games anymore?
INKWELL! SEND ME A PLAYTEST INVITE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
>>736689829>and the black mage was actually preparing (you) and the maple world to defeat this guy
>>736689829>your character (who at this point is a chosen one) solos the black mage and it's revealed that there's a stronger bad guy out there and the black mage was actually preparing (you) and the maple world to defeat this guyThanks, I hate it.I don't even play nu-maple, but why can't a bad guy just be a bad guy?It's a korean mushroom grinding game, not a j.r.r. tolkien saga of books.
Original tutorial or green apple suit tutorial?
>>736690081Kids wanna be tung tung tung sahur when they grow up, nothing fucking matters anymore. Sedate me with the nostalgia gas. Sleeping through the nightmare is easier than living it.
Would you?
>>736691376original. applesuit is shit.
Will they bring back TMS though?
So outside explorers which class would be fine to be part of classic eventually?
>>736693489pirates is the cutoff point.
>>736693635Werent Aran and Evan pre-bb too?I remember dual blade being released as soon BB hit.
>tfw
>>736693772all numaple dogshit. keep them out.
>>736650497No.>>736668620>To me it just seems like a better version of an explorer class, like why would I make an Assassin when I can make a Night WalkerThis exactly.
>>736693821Cry more idiot
>>736693807This was a huge trap to make you spend money, the first $10 i spent on maple were for a haircut.
Just stop before Cygnus Knights.
>>736693886We all fell for it. I got the shitty orange buzz cut.If I had disposable money back then like I do now I would have 100% paid money to change it to literally anything else.
>Nexon allowed event goers to download the game already>surprised it got datamined and leakedIs Nexon fucking retarded?
>>736694804Datamining came from a installer that got leaked, problem was they didnt encrypt the installer at all.
>>736694024i got this one
>>736693886>>736694024you can also get this one which is arguably even worse
>>736690437korean power fantasydead serious. go look at chaos zero nightmare and the reaction the general has if you make fun of how bad the story was neutered to wank the MC.
>>736695158This was the one I wanted. Getting it for free was a nice bonus though it did take 3? attempts.
>>736691393>haha taco ninja muffins of doom XDYeah I really miss that.
>>736694804They simply said not to post it on official channels.
>>736693489anything that isn't a named class or cygs, tbqhfamilia. resistance returning under a different context and name would be cool because of how unique they are gameplay wise. named classes were the death of the game.
I will miss angelic buster....
>>736650497Absolutely. Those classes were just so fucking retarded conceptually. Worst part is how they straight up ruined monster carnival PvP due to how overpowered they were compared to adventures. Fuck you, I actually enjoyed playing the damn mode instead of just trading wins
>>736696567The only thing that ruined monster carnival were brawlers because they were the best class by far for it
i miss my odinms girlfriend that i didn't even get to say goodbye after the server got nukedit's been almost 20 years HELP AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>736696760odinms was so comfy. I wish I had spent more time on it.
For me, it was Ant Tunnel parties
>>736696919yes that will be 95% of the experience during the first half year of classic
>>736696919>ant tunnel>no antsdeepest lore
Remove Magic Guard.Remove Elixirs, Power Elixirs and all %-based potions.Don't add any World Tour regions (NLC, Singapore, Malaysia, etc). If you absolutely have to, nerf the exp rate.Enforce a cooldown on Mage Ults.Add post-Big Bang bosses and regions, or create new endgame content.
Remember the Forest of Golem?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCWIhA3XQw
>>736696994We were the ants all along.
>>736697158Remove Maple Weapons.Enforce secondary stat requirement for all classes, especially assassins and mages.Enforce luk requirement for elemental wands
>>736697350They are adjusting equipment requirements and formulas so there should be an actual tradeoff to going Xless.
>>736697264
>>736697350>Enforce secondary stat requirement for all classes, especially assassins and mages.they already did that for mages, they made it so 2 INT = 1 magic attack, so no more lukless magicians using the starting wand
Reminder that nuMaplestory music slapshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqz3XODQj1c
>>736697586this is generic as fuck you retard
>this is generic as fuck you retard
>>736697586nexon went all out on the masteria storyline soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1PLMErNf0
>>736696515I can fix her.
>>736697350>Enforce luk requirement for elemental wandsI'd be shocked if those even make it in.They were pure gachaslop fuel for whales and invalidated everything that wasn't an elemental wand.
>>736697586for me, it's crimsonwood keep pqhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq61ugRGBonow THAT was a pq
not in KMS?not canon.
>>736698114you mean like how the zakum helmet invalidated every single helmet in the game from level 50+?that's another thing that should be gone, zakum helmets. or at least changed to level 150 requirement.
>>736682825Basically, those "MP4" skills make the user invincible for the entire duration while the animations play out.To other users who aren't using it, they just see the player turn into a "diamond" reminiscent of the 6th job hexa crystal maple leaf design. Basically they just turn into a ball and then pop back once it's over.
>look up crimsonwood keep bgm on youtube>read the comments>see gooktext>hmm.jpg>paste it into deepl translate>they are talking about their nostalgia for the gollux prequest area with the demon npcs>mfw
Maplestory 2.
Maplestory.
>>736698450Tell me about Lucid, i dont play numaple but i like her design and boss fight music.
>>736698181I don't mind having extremely strong low-leveled equipment. Just make it more difficult to acquire.I like the idea of bosses dropping parts needed to craft boss equipment instead of just having bosses drop equipment outright. That makes it harder to get because you not only need to now farm bosses but you need to have your specific crafting job hinted at in-game to be at an appropriate level.
>>736698747shit boss that should've died but kept alive and milked for having good design
Thoughts on Zakum?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtDrkAYs68
>>736698747tl;dr>Lucid is a fucking ELF that can't control her power>Knows Mercedes >Only joins the Black Mage because she wanted help with her power (her dreams become a reality bubble she can't escape from)>Black Mage uses Lucid's power to form Twilight Perion too>"Defeating" Lucid doesn't kill her but just "wakes her up"
>>7366981811. zhelms didn't come from swiping your credit card2. zhelms got nerfed to hell, with all stats reduced from 15 to 5, no more accuracy/avoid, reduced def and slots reduced to 7.That's still good, but even lv90 pre-bb hats could almost match that, and classic world gear is getting buffed.It's no longer a forever hat.In fact, by the time you'll probably already have something better by the time you can do zakum, unless you're just buying it for a lv50 alt or something.
>>736698820Why should the Zakum Helmet be a level 50 equip? Only level 135+ can fight it.
>>736698935>zhelms got nerfed to hellcome again?
>>736698964Because those enough who manage to get funded should be rewarded for it. It also incentivizes the economy of the game by providing higher leveled players a way to make money should they decide to craft helms themselves and sell them to lower-leveled players.
>>736698924What about Hilla? Why are there two different versions of her anyway?
>>736699076BM liked her for being loyal so revived and made her strongerjobbed again and died again
>>736699035What, did you misread something?They're getting fucking nerfed.One of the things found in the datamined beta released a few days ago.
>>736699076Hilla>A copy of Verus Hilla from the past>Priestess of the egyptian dudes and a peerless beauty >Oops she got old and now she's looking for ways to restore her own youth>Joins Black Mage because his power helps her retain her youth, sacrificing all the people who trusted her Verus Hilla>The real Hilla>General of the Black Mage's army now>Uses souls to maintain her beauty >Has powers that control life and death thanks to her loyalties towards the Black Mage (who shares a similar power)>Controls the dead souls of Lotus and Damien since technically you kill them by the time you officially fight her>Jobs terribly despite how strong she's supposed to be and fucking dies a wrinkly hag
>>736699217I was under the impression Ossyria wasn't even available yet, let alone zakum
>>736649646I want to play Buccaneer but since there won't be Pirates I will play Ice/Lightning Mage.
>>736698884Jump quest sucks.
>>736698726the fuck is Horntail doing there?
>>736699309It's been way too long since I did their storyline but Zero and Horntail have history.
>>736699302you suck.jump quests are goated and I hope we get more of them in the future
>>736699289It's not, data for zakum and the region aren't present.But data on the zhelm sure was.
>>736699273>Hilla>>A copy of Verus Hilla from the pastHuh? The original Hilla released 14 years ago was the "copy"?Why is she only the "real" Hilla after being revived?Also didn't the Black Mage only do all of this to prepare the player for the stronger bosses yet to come?
Aran, Evan, Dual Blade and Cygnus Knights were all released before the Big Bang. Should any of them be included in Classic?
>>736699421>Also didn't the Black Mage only do all of this to prepare the player for the stronger bosses yet to come?Yes but pretty much everybody who joined forces with him didn't know this
I am playing as female cleric > priest
>>736699390hard disagreebut there should be a server where the only content is jump quests so people like you can get their bing bing wahoos
>>736699520in the big twenty twenty six male priests would be more invited
>>736699451They should never add named characters with their own backstory and shit, only actual CLASSES that your random nobody character can become
Would you say the John's Pink Flower Basket jumpquests are goated?
>>736699451>>736699421>Huh? The original Hilla released 14 years ago was the "copy"?Later it was revealed that it was just a piece of Hilla's power. She's like this Shaman / Witch thing. Projection would probably be more appropriate.>Why is she only the "real" Hilla after being revived?Less "real" and more "not a projection". It's why when she dies she just crumbles into dust
>>736699603I don't need a dedicated jump server, this isn't tf2. the regular game will have them, and you'll still be pissing your pants over a low level difficulty set of jumps.
>>736699641I'm fine with "Heroes" being their own character but I do agree that named people with established backstories are awful.Instead it should've been these heroes teaching the player and not the player playing the heroes directly.
Surely they won't add Miracle Cubes and the potential system, right?
>>736699671Why did only a "piece" of her power exist as a character? Wasn't she involved in the Black Heaven and Demon storylines too? And I remember she pops up randomly during some quest in the gollux prequest world/area.
>>736699782I heavily doubt they would.It's the most polarizing thing they've done in the game ever, including things released in Modern Maplestory today.
>>736699731>you'll still be pissing your pants over a low level difficulty set of jumps.nope I don't find them hard, which is why I disagreed with you saying they were goated. pressing movement keys and jump at the same. WOW!
>>736671314It's a f2p game so it will eventually go down that road even if it isn't on launch.
>>736699815There's lore resources for everything for every character out there if you want to read it anon. What I mentioned was just about why you end up fighting her in both versions.
>No invite.Why live?
>>736699863>zak jump quest isn't hard, it just sucksIt shouldn't take more than 10 minutes total for both stages, probably less if you learn the patterns. Unless you suck at jumping, no one should be complaining about a 10 minute detraction, you can get back to grinding for hours just fine afterwards.
>>736699941im more looking for a qrd. the maplestory wiki lore sections are like a gigantic encyclopedia and it's a bit much
the zakum jumpquest was the best part of the /v/ private server glory days. i might've hated it as a kid, but it's a fun challenge as an adult, and it's fun watching noobs get tilted when they fall into the lava
>>736700126I'm not the guy that said jump quests suck. I don't think they suck and I don't care that they exist
>>736700126You wouldn't believe how bad some people are at jump quests, and the zak one is notorious for being one of the harder ones.There are people that legit CANNOT do it.
Jump quests are fun but they need to have a fulfilling reward at the end.The maplestory anniversary event where they did "conclusions" to various popular quests (like Chief Stan's letter to his son or Maya) had a jump quest where the only thing you got was an etc. item you can't even display in your home. The jump quest was actually fun so I didn't mind it but there was no reason to actually do it even for the event.
What should the /v/ guild be called?
>>736700359I would believe it. I've coached many randos and guildies and friends in private servers on clearing jump quests. You'd think some peoples' pattern recognition processes just fucking shut down the moment a rock is falling from the sky on a very predictable loop.
>>736700435/v/irgins
what is the deal with this girl?
>>736698258Thanks Anon
>>736700463Excuse me sir, but slashes are not permitted in guild names.
Did Nexon recover from this incident?
>>736699863Saying that in the context of a game where you spend thousands of hours just hitting an attack button over and over sounds foolish.
>>736700621maplestory goes through a major scandal every single year but nothing ever happens
>>736700621i watched one of this guy's videos and holy shit is he a boring autist
>>736700621He'll never be FangBlade
>>736700694One would have to be an autist to get to level 300 with the XP that it requires.
The Great Debate.
>>736696264Battle Mage is the only one that I think would fit Classic World as a new 2nd Job Magician path
>>736700669Foolish? Not really. The implicit implication implied, candidly, is that I don't find the overall game difficult at all so there wouldn't have been any scenario where I shat myself silly crying about how hard platforming is in Maplestory. I don't find platforming fun nor do I find platforming in Maplestory difficult. Breakfast remains uneaten and I remain hungry.Get it?
>>736700694>and holy shit is he a boring autist Well yeah.He wasn't even streaming to be a "content creator". He was streaming specifically because he suspected Nexon to ban him for some bullshit reason due to pressure from KMS whales complaining that the first level 300 character ever should be in KMS. His time streaming was done as proof of no wrongdoing.
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>>736699628>all the femboy priests that will be in classicimagine
>>736700890Battle Mage is so much fun. I'd be fine with modern battle mage being added just because he's closest to Maplestory having a bard class.
>gmsbabs are ignorant of this esoteric class
>>736701442not knowing any class past Pirate is pretty based though
>Blitz Shield got buffed ?????????
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>>736701812looks total asslooks worse than local
>>736701851Anon there's no need to be jealous.
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Can't wait to find my maplewife(female)(male)
>>736700621he lost and got raped by bending the knee literally within 24 hours and levelling up and apologizing. he's literally the most raped numaplegroid alive.
>>736702416>and got raped by bending the knee literally within 24 hours and levelling upI don't know about him apologizing because I didn't bother to keep up with him but I do know he went and leveled up off-screen because someone was going to achieve level 300 soon after and there were rumors of shifting celebration over to that person, so he "stole" it.
I love MMORPGs, especially classic ones, but the 2D ones look so hard to get into. Is there any complexity to the gameplay at all or is it all just jump + mash attack button to endlessly grind 1000 mobs on screen for hours?
>>736702527so you're saying he lost and got raped
>>736702691I don't believe I used either of those words no
>>736702675Modern Maplestory has actual mechanics for their bosses but the interim is actually just grinding yeah
>>736702675classic is a chill vibes gamenu maple bossing is probably one of the most mechanically intense among all mmos
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>>736651697Maple should just focus on the adventure, and just keep expanding and connecting the world instead of making the world have stand alone theme park maps.I would love to be able to travel from orbis to aqua to ludi ON FOOT. I want to be able to cross the korean folk town through the desert, and end up back at the base of orbis tower. With the involvement of partying being much more important in classic, being able to explore the world and have interesting places to farm would be dope. The deeper and deeper you get into the world the harder and better farming spots their are etc. etc.
>>736657045Wtf am i even watching??? Where is the damage? Why are there Anime lolis giving the peace sign??
>>736684982
>>736651264mirin' dis look fr fr
>>736649646I wanna play as an archer or an assassin.
>>736703019>Wtf am i even watching??? You're watching someone demonstrate a new common 6th job skill>Where is the damage? Invisible. The player is using an invisible damage skin >Why are there Anime lolis giving the peace sign??The 6th job skill is a summon that's supposed to spawn an "angel". Nexon decided that ascending into godhood wasn't enough so they also began adding in cosmetics you can use to cover this angel summon. The "anime lolis giving peace signs" is the thing flying around the statue and the peace sign is one of that summon's active skills. Here's how it's supposed to look normally: >>736671535Pic related is also more skins they showed off
>>736657045I think the real issue with this is their inability to allow advanced hotkeys. It's fucking miserable trying to fit that many spells on individual keys instead of allowing Shift + # or Control + #
>>736703468they doalso they made a bunch of buffs (including that one) be activated all with a single button
>>736703468They actually do albeit in their own way.There's a combo key system you can use where pressing something down "combo key" changes what certain other keys do.
>>736703359Thank you for explaining. I'm so fucking glad I stopped playing after about a year of Big Bang, the power creep and incentives of the newer maplestory puts me off. Hope classic is a more RPG focused game.
>>736703832It's definitely not for everybody. There's a reason why almost all players play the game with 99% skill transparency. It's just way too flashy nowadays.
>back to bow whackingman...
>>736699451I was a 2006-2007 vet. Never stayed with it for very long. Had some great memories though.>in 2008 they added Window ModeFuck I remember using 3rd party programs just run that game in Window mode.
>>736649646STR mage
Playing OSMS in HD will be so weird
>>736703832bruh the game was alright after big bang, they just didn't stop after a certain point down the line. And they had many chances to do it. Honestly I don't get fuckers like you. Unless you were high level before then it makes me think a majority of people like this were casuals
>>736707567you don't get it, everything either has to be pre or post big bang ok???
Any word on ship traveling? Instant? 5 minutes? How would you help build community? I would like social guilds and regular guilds perhaps.
>>736708132Orbis is not present at all in the closed test so we just don't know
>>73670813230 minute flightsThe ship starts going backwards if you don't carry a conversation with at least 3 messages per minuteThis is enforced by a shitty AI that grades your conversation
>>736708506What if I'm playing omok
>>736708506>'how do you do?'
>>736708506>>736708769>ASL?
nu-gayplers be like
>>736708939yeah yeah, everyone except you is stupid
>>736708543You can play but every move is timed. Losing teleports you back and kills you (xp loss included).
>>736708939make the lights transparent and now you actually got nu maplemake the video 100x slower and now you have classic
>>736703832Big Bang was a great update but far from flawless. Most of the stat and class changes were great, and the EXP curve was streamlined but not blindingly fast like current day. They made quests better too. Unfortunately it came with a lot of problems like flattening all the maps.Too many people just scream big bang bad big bang bad, when in reality it was two steps forward one step back. Then Nexon tripped on that one step back and kept stumbling backwards starting with Mihile (the advent of giving everyone Flash Jump skills).
>>736707567Pre Big Bang I was level 85 Dragon Knight. Post big bang i got to 120. I liked Big Bang desu. Not as much charm as og maple, but still good, a lot of quality of life features. I stopped playing due to life responsibilities
they're gonna fuck it upi'll still play thoughyou fags better not let the schizophrenics make the guilds
>>736649646Cleric until Pirate
Give me a classic private server that’s gonna hold me over till classic comes out, where you niggas playing
>>736710591Hopefully not too much issues with schizos and if it comes to that it just means there will be exodus and new guild creation. Price of anonymity in this case is going to be hard to know if this is the case untill it eventually shows up through playing and talking with guildies.
>>736649646>What class are you gonna play?Spearman. In the slim chance I might get that qt azn maple cleric gf I never got to have 20 years ago.
>>736711020I genuinely think Classic World is no more than 2-3 months out at most. I'd just wait.
>>736711024As long as /msg/ fags and Spooky normalfags aren't in we'll be fine.
>>736710358fair enough. they added some good shit after big bang but I'd say the tipping point was shortly after raising the level cap from 200 to 250. Raising the level cap was fine so it can introduce new avenues of content but they didn't bother balancing the beginning and mid game any more after that (arguably they didn't already but it was made much worse where now lvl 200 is the tutorial and you fly by all old content in the blink of an eye)
>>736711103My guess would be that they are doing an announcement on anniversary stream perhaps for open beta that leads to launch and more or less expecting official release during summer. I'd welcome a suprise open beta/test to launch from the anniversary, but that it just hopium.>>736711157Have to see what happens, but hopefully it doesn't come to that. It really isn't too suprising that groups of people leave and form again behind closed doors if there is an issue with this. Having browsed plenty of different generals and playing with people from this site can be really fun as long as you aren't stuck with this situation.
>>736711020I was playing Chronostory on Maple Worlds a few weeks ago, it's pretty good
>>736712901Chronostory is a lot of fun, but it really stops being classic once you reach third job.I was flying all across the map on corsair like a flighthacker.
>>736713727true, I dropped it right after I became a ranger, but it was fun up until then
Togain
>>736649646I'll play assassin because I just really like Kerning City
>>736657045I just disregard anybody praising anything about modern maple as a subhuman
>>736650497Cygnus Kngihts are technically classic (as well as Aran and Evan) if you thnk pre-Big Bang is classic maplestory. So I think I would be up for it, because having the same 10 or so classes forever does get a bit boring.
>>736656153It depends on how autism you are about weapons.I love maces, maces sucked, sword was too generic for me to really play page. Went first with Spearman because I loved polearms animation, but then 3rd job apparently polearms ability sucks and you need to use stupid spears
>>736714593I'd rather have Classic-exclusive classes.
>>736649646COME ON INGERLAND KILL SOME FACKIN SNAILS
>>736683936I liked the points in private servers where you'd reincarnate enough and solo bosses. spent a lot of time at the old lady for some reason
>>736657045What the fuck are koreans doing?
>>736682342>my maple account is from 2006>still nof ucking inviteFuck you Nexon. Not like I have time to play for it to get wiped, but I would have still logged in just in case betafags get something like in the OG.
>>736682791Uhh yes, that's very early maplestory. Just not on release ofc, I hope release is just Victoria Island.
>>736714739Korean games are designed are pure optimization, which is why modern MS is the way it is, from class design to map layouts to just about everything else.Inkwell recognizes this and knows this is not the type of gameplay the west wants (and has admitted as much, albeit accidentally), which is why Classic World is GMS exclusive.
>>736714885>are pure optimization*for pure optimization
HE
Is KMS or JMS getting a classic version too??
ability to save keyboard layout please
>>736715112No this is GMS exclusive
>>736715134What are KMS opinions about it?
>>736696919I'd try to collect the most varied classes i could and i'd heal them all the way down to the balrog section so we could attempt the lightning guys
>stars cost lots of mesos>still have to recharge them periodically when picking up more potionsnaruto ruined
>selling gf
>>736715146I would guess >>736714885
>>736715146Most don't care because of sunk cost, stockholm syndrome, etc. Whatever you want to call it. There is a vocal minority that bemoans the fact that they don't get a classic world, but again they're in the minority especially because they already have Maple Worlds.
>>736693807Skill issue, I have two old school characters with this hairstyle
>>736697350i liked maple weapons?
>>736715351They are aesthetically goated. God tier designs. They should not be game breaking meta wise though. Perhaps a nice alternative for specific level ranges of gear, but not super uber abusable late game best in slot gigaweapons.
>>736682372>rates were actually higher than advertisedthat's how you know it wasn't intentional this time.
>>736715351Too much power for too little cost. Their entire existence effectively forced you into not investing in your secondary stat else you'd be forever unoptimal.And at the end of the day, that's what it came down to. Dexless thieves, Lukless magicians, the reason they were so dominant was because of how easy maple weapons made such builds. All the upsides of pumping your main stat with none of the downsides.
Anybody have a link to that flash game? It was the first idle game I've played, you're a maple player who is a hacker and you have to watch the screen to leave the screen or enter a menu or something when a GM walks by
>>736715420What maple weapon was best in slot?
>>736715494Hackerstory by Crovy.Hunterstory by the same guy was better.
>>736708939to this day i still don't know the context of this gif/webm whenever either gets posted. i feel like it's better without the context, though.
>>736715351>>736715420the play is just to make them cosmetic, by the way. i love their designs and they're such a distinct part of old maplestory. but statting them and making them absurdly strong if you completely ignore one of your stats was always stupid and absolutely unintended.
china's getting classic before we do lmaooooooooohttps://mxd.web.sdo.com/web7/news/newsContent.html?id=387086&CategoryID=275
>>736715636China has already had their own version for years.The blue snail server has been their most popular server for like, four years.
Anyone feel like they're just going to shadowdrop classic sometime after the beta without saying anything?
>>736715793Most likely during the anniversary stream they are announcing open beta and if you believe enough, official release date.Would be a power move to announce that classic is going live today during the stream, but that is just unlikely even if it would be neat.
>>736715793I genuinely thought they were going to do that at Maplecon and Inkwell made it sound like that was the plan at first with the whole "We could release it RIGHT NOW", but I think he knows how anticipated it is so that's somewhat unlikely but not a 0% chance.
Fuck maplegaystory, where is RO classic?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGs2Eiok7Y
>>736649646They keep making wild changes with warriors so it can be any one of them. They need to stop making retarded decisions on final attack.
>>736716330i'm pretty sure the idea is to make final attack a bossing skill, since it's just a dps loss when you're mobbing now. regardless it's really clunky and they need to address readability for it.
>>736650497How about no knights of nignigs at all. This is classic MapleStory, I don't want newer shit added over and over until it eventually just turns into an alternate version of modern MapleStory. it's already bad enough they're adding 4th job.
Expect the party exp buff reverted to old values or downright removed after this beta as well. The moment one party manages to pull ahead of others everyone is going to ask for the party exp formula to be catered for solo play again.
>>736715892Isn't RO's grind even more brutal than maple's?I don't have the patience for that shit nowadays.
>nerfed slash blast and power strike so little it's meaningless>buffed max HP increase>changed FA to a toggle who gives a shitI'm playing Dragon Knight cuz I like big hp, dragons and being the best warrior mobber, in short I like to have fun.
>>736650497No. Just play regular maple story if you want cygnus knights.
>>736649646Luckless mage. What outfit? Kindergartner outfit.
>>736717496Are they adding Lara as beastmaster class to classic
>>736717404>DK>Big HPBut doesn't that class spend all its time killing itself for slightly higher dps
if Nath from SydneyMS who made a "server guide" video is still around, I can't find it on youtube.
>>736718119you're talking about dark knight. dragon knight is the better version.
>>736657045What went wrong for the fun, simple, and methodical gameplay of old maple to turn into this garbage?
>>736666131Why not just make it really strong single target damage so it can retain its identity? Making every attack into a mobbing move is how MapleStory gradually turned into the shit it is now.
>>736717281That's stupid because they need a buffed party exp formula so people aren't soloing or just sitting around with a thumb up their ass waiting for Holy Symbol. It sucks when you have people to train and others rotate out and then the new people refuse to do anything because of no HS.
>>736720554Its identity in being shit?
>>736720840There was another MMORPG around at the time, Trickster Online, that had a really cool party system, where everyone in it would get a bonus EXP multiplier if the party had a specific composition in it. For example, 2x EXP if everyone in the party was the same class or the same gender, or 2.5x EXP if the party had at least one of every class type. Of course the players had to be in a similar level range or you wouldn't get the EXP bonus. It basically ensured everyone would party up to grind or farm.I think it'd be cool if Maplestory did something similar, but I suppose that's not really "classic".
>>736711157Spooky normalfags? Qrd?
>>736714835Again, they don't care about retards like you. Nexon is way more interested in feedback from newer players than lonely autists who played 20 years ago.
when is it coming out?
>>736668724That's what gave every class an identity. every class being able to mob early on or be efficient at mobbing makes the game more dull, like modern maple. You adapt and you can focus on maps that have fewer stronger monsters that offer more XP, and thieves have haste so they can deal with platformy maps better.
>>736685443>>736686625Make fire arrow much stronger to compensate, making fire mages the best single target in 2nd job. When you start making everyone's main attack a mobbing skill you turn it into the braindead shit modern maple turned into. I hated that 4th job made heroes just an off-brand dragon knight and the whole combo mechanic becomes completely useless thanks to brandish.
>>736686065I almost want to make a spearman instead because the life leech final attack sounds cool. They should just make FA function like it used to with power strike, but in 3rd and 4th job it adds an extra line of damage to dragon crusher, brandish, brandish and blast so it's always useful. Maybe even add an additional animation to those 3rd and 4th job attacks so it's not just a random line of damage out of nowhere.
>>736700694have you ever played the retarded abomination that is current maple? only a lobotomized retard would be insane enough to grind this garbage to lv 300
>>736721568FUCK DRILLING
>>736717404they nerfed literally everyone's damage, which implies every class was dealing too much damage with the new formula, so it's less of a nerf and more of a balancing thing
>>736649646does it have level scaling so i can join ludi pq forever?
>>736727961This is a good thing. Classes should be as weak as possible to make the game challenging.Autists OUT.
Dice roll gone, now you manually distribute your stats when creating a new character
>>736728432SOULLESS
Should Crimsonwood be in Classic?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbY2KUn3dmM
>>736728672>YOU HAVE TO WASTE HOURS FOR A PERFECT STAT BECAUSE... YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY?!?!retardthey got rid of hp washing too bitch in case you didn't have enough of a reason to jump headfirst off a building yet
>>736728939I don't know, I heard it was a high level thing so I never experienced it
>>736728939it's soulful and crimsonwood keep PQ feels like early maplestory content even though it isn't. eventually i hope we get it along with NLC just without the fucked up pots
>>736729023it's a high level area, but it's pretty cool. has some of the most complex and difficult to navigate maps in the history of maplestory, and a cool pq where you fight 4 bosses at the same time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq61ugRGBothis was also the first instance of bosses that had interesting mechanics instead of just being stationary damage checks. one of them casts a 1/1 attack while spawning a poison cloud.
>>736729023>never experienced crimsonwoodits like one of the core maple experiences
