do YOU LIKE charge characters, anon?
>>736657743I’m stuck with this shitty stick, the lever has such a long throw that my quarter-circles aren’t very accurate. I have fewer issues with charge characters.
>>736657743I like easy to play characters so charge/stance/puppet/zoner characters always filter me out.
>>736657743No.None of the characters I liked when I playing and learning fighting games by myself for ~10 years were charge OR I tried them and couldn't get the charge duration into my memories (because the games at the time didn't tell you in any way) and just moved onto other characters because I couldn't get the special moves out when I wanted to. At least more often than not they don't make charge character designs appealing to me so it's not too much of an issue, though it defintely did contribute to me not buying city of the wolves since the only launch character I wanted to play at all is Kain. Played him a bunch in the beta and then decided not to buy it based on that.
>>736657743>do YOU LIKE charge charactersno
The only charge character i've ever enjoyed is sf6 dee jay
anyone ever heard of this https://store.steampowered.com/app/3917840/Shaolin_vs_Wutang_Legends/
I just pick Ken, then Chun Li, then whoever else looks cool/cute.
>>736657743yeh
>>736657743They’re fun. I’ve tried Urien and Vatista a lot but charge partitioning makes me go insane because I can’t do it for some reason. Alex is fun to play around with although he isn’t all charge.
>>736657743I want a 3s mod that adds in the missing SF2 characters
>>736658770i feel like vega would be busted in 3s if he was in it
>>736658770Bison in 3s would be cool, not sure if he’d be good unless they give him something like a psycho reflector though
Invincible VS deciding to start its open beta on the same day as Strive 2.0 certainly is a choice.
>>736659038why does this shit keep happening lol. this is uni2 releasing the same day as tekken 8 all over again
>>736657743yes and its disappointing how they gutted dictators entire character
>>736659038I can’t expect it to do much better than Nen impact honestly
>>736659038Still mad that KoF hasn't put Pretty Chang or Pretty Yashiro into a real title yet
Completely avoided them until I got a leverlessLeverless charge is so easy I actually went back to old games and tried every charge character and it was mind blowing how much of a world it opened upbut without leverless, no I would never play them
>>736659080on one hand i do like his new bomb thing he can do, but on the other hand making scissor kick a qcf is fucking RETARDED
I like to charge my dash attack ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWVz7Cqm8JQhttps://youtu.be/nfFL5Q0NirY?si=WZykf5kISqPVeCjIhttps://youtu.be/8GtsdGy4HIs?si=zIGVq2Lg6AXAHveNhttps://youtu.be/fSYMT5TnSp0?si=boTKbPQntKw9N8DIhttps://youtu.be/Rak-A5ul-6U?si=VcMZSh7ASKTFvSn1
>>736657743Charge sonicbooms are boring as fuck. Charge dosukoi are the epitome of fun.
Why are modern casual fighting games gradually exterminating charge motions?
>>736660057why do you care? just play the game with charge motions bro. I don't' see you asking "why are hitboxes legal?" or caring about hitbox players using a device that makes every other device inferior.
>>736660253>why do you care? just play the game with charge motions bro.I didn't mean Modern input schemes, I mean when a game takes a character from a previous game and removes their charge inputs for something else. SF6 does this a ton. There is no option to use charge inputs there. Also I think Modern still requires charging?
Fighting games? More like troonting games lmao
>>736657743I like hybrid, I like Chun-Li.
>>736657743I rather play lowtiers desu
>>736661770Why not play Remy, he's a charge character and ALSO low tier in 3S. I think he's 3rd worst in his game?
>we are stuck with SF6 for 2, possibly 3 more seasonsI just want this shit to end, no reward when doing any "complex" combos, also no hype whatsoever whenever I watch a match.
>>736662082This is how you can deal with SF6 anon.Play a different fighting game.
>>736662082The next game won't be any better. Accept it for what it is or move on.
>>736657743No I always hated them. Hated Remy and Urien in 3s because charge partitions filtered me.
>>736661821He's low mid. There's always Q, Sean, Twelve and Hugo before Remy. Remy in Japanese arcades is pretty insane.
gobou playing venom and I'm just thinkingyep, venom is still mid tier at best
>>736659318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tkgIwjeDC8
>>736662082Yes yes you whine and larp we get it, go and pretend to be a guilty gear fan or something
>>736657743Can't say I hate them but I can't help but feel like I either keep running into them wholesale or I end up with a character with at least one charge/top input.>Guile>Shizumaru>Axl>Chandelure>Pic Related>Tempted to try Vatista once I get decent with Phonon
>>736657743I like characters over gameplay styles I like Guile and Mitsuru so I play them not because they're charge characters
>>736657743Only charge character that I like is that loli zoner because she's ragebaiting material.
>>736662343Pretty sure the bottom 3 are Twelve, Remy and Sean. No way are Hugo or Q among them
>>736657743I like playing as them but I haven’t played enough fgs to have an opinion about playing against them. Charge inputs feel a lot like negative edge but for movement instead of buttons. Once you get the hang of it, it’s fun and satisfying to balance a real neutral game with sometimes having one/zero dimensions of freedom.
>>736662223>Play a different fighting gameThat's what I have been doing, they are called USF4, SF3, KoF98, and soon will go back to Tekken Tag 2.>>736662243Perhaps you are right, from my understanding SF6 is doing ridiculously good for Capcom.>>736662476I hate nothing more than animeshit fighters.
>>736662725>I hate nothing more than animeshit fightersOh good larp, you need to be a bit more racist though
>>736659038if a tagkino game was threatened by other fgs, it wouldn't be tagkino.
>>736662753>you need to be a bit more racist thoughI have endless amount of webm's of kikes getting their shit pushed in.Good enough?
>>736662518Oh they added Ina? Neat. A shame I'll never see the idols I super want in the game thoughMumei, Oga and some phase connects, who will never be in for obvious reasons
>>736662813tagslop and hyperslop are the worst games in the genre. Worst fucking subgenre of all time.
>>736662941kinovinvcible VS looks solid and Tokon is going eat other game's lunches on release. hold that shit you anti-tag bitch
>>736662941>slopOpinion Discarded
>>736660057Most people don't like playing charge characters Particularly if they don't indicate when a charge is ready
>>736663186>discarding my opinion because I used a perjorativesilence kike
Been messing with Jam and noticed that one of her taunts changes if you do it against a character that Jam thinks is hot. Girl has unfortunate tastes, but I guess that is part of the joke.>Ky (never ever getting his married ass)>Sin (my crush's son is fine too)>Venom (she doesn't know)>Asuka (he's stuck podcasting on the moon)
>>736662476South American.
>>736663345Damn she's still desperate, have you tried with Bridget?
>>736663407bridget is a girl, jam isn't into faggots
>>736663407She just has the regular taunt where she has dollar signs in her eyesMakes sense since the XX ending just had her use Bridget as a mascot to draw in customers to her restaurant.
>>736663446anon...
>>736663446>>736663512Shucks, I thought Jam still "would". Atleast she has unique intros with Elphelt and Dizzy.
They turned strive into like og gruble versus
>>736663731Maybe one day they'll turn it into guilty gear
>>736663731>in the meanwhile grub is party masher shit that will become even worselol
>>736663345>AsukaReverse Rape when?
>>736663261Yes. And it will continue, you simple bastard.
>>736661821Sorry, but i only play Sean
giwtwm
>>736657743No, they feel like it's a 'must do' at almost all times.Imagine a fighting game where after an anti-air, you must press 'up' to ensure your character isn't still crouchingIt's just tedious
>>736664170Clone of God being horny to her own OC circa 2199AD.
>>736662619Is Alex below Hugo and Q?
>>736664170Ragna sees picrel and goes NOO DONT SUCK MY COCK yeah im thinking hes gay
>>736664706thats his sister
>>736665209Aren't there like 10 girls in Blazblue that are his sister?
>>736665209After alex in sf6 we love fucking our sisters here
>>736665283ENTER
>>736664706I don’t blame him, playing against her in CT traumatized me and that was just a CPU. If I went against an actual person I would have developed PTSD.
I don't get the timing for 1ABC with BBCF, I feel like I get too trigger happy and result in throw reject missing
>>736665597What happened to Bell?
>>736665283Who cares, Tao is his one true waifu anyways
>>736657743Yeah, unless they are being controlled by an AI which doesn't care about the charge mechanic.
>>736666006It's been so long since i've read variable heart but iirc Bell becomes Platinum.
>>736662909She was added almost 2 years ago now and the devs gave her a visual indicator that shows you when her moves are charged. Kinda hard to play but she can take half a life bar without any meter.
>>736657743I could never understand charge inputs when I wasn't turtling in fighting games, and any airdasher game has me struggle to understand them conceptually (I'm retarded), but I liked Charlotta from what little GBVS I've played
>>736665597......Blazblue continuity is a fucking mess.
>>736666030You mean bullet
>>736657743yes. the first time i ever picked up a fighting game, despite button mashing the whole time, my guile was flinging sonic booms all over the place. guile's a bro
>>736665597BB is retarded.
raped genre
remedial genre
>>736657743https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMMfQfjjZc0
invincible vs has open beta this weekendbut i have no idea if it will be on pc or not
>>736668729Its on pc via xbone app llol
>>736669068It's so over
>>736668729>>736669068Is it on PC, or not? Everything I've seen about it says that there's no PC beta, but the end of the trailer for the open beta (bottom pic) said it was.
>>736657743Yes. Remy is my main in 3rd Strike.
>>736669068tried looking at xbox app but it's not updated yet?
>>736669446The most sauceless roster of all time god damn
>>736669542Beta doesn't start for 2 and a half hours.
>>736669446Tokon going to bury it
>>736664510yes. the unplayable tier is twelve and Sean, then there's the I Just Think They're Neat frustration tier of Alex, Remy, and debatably Q but I think he belongs on the Actually They're Pretty Good tier alongside Hugo and Necro. Just under Ryu and Ibuki.
>>736669446>Robot guy is called Robot>Monster thing is called Monster GirlWhy would they do that
>>736669446Any interest I have in this game is 100% being carried by the fact that it's being made by the KI guys. Don't know any characters from this IP other than Omni-Man and Invincible, and everybody else looks boring as shit aside from Battle Beast.
>>736669446i've been checking my series X since yesterday and the store still hasn't updated with the beta download. what the FLAP is going on?
>>736669787Akuma is above Ryu?
>>736669849Because invisible is a reddit franchise like that
>>736658146>no pc support>madcatz>negrostation onlylol, lmao even
>>736670586retarded
>>736670919I can't be retarded, I have a prefrontal cortex :)nigger
>>736670263yeah, Akuma and Ken are both way better than Ryu in 3s
I really hope the new Xbox CEO gets KI out of pinball purgatory
>>736657743I like hybrids like Birdie that have charges alongside other moves.
Is now a good time to get into Strive or should I stick with sf6?
>>736657743I love charge characters, its a shame that there are so few charge characters being made in recent games. We need more vatistas and sakis with charges in all directions. I want to charge partition and dash up flashkick and fire two fireballs.
>>736671397It's a good time. The update is pretty well received.
>>736657743Temu Iori, Colonel Trautman, Balrog's retarded cousin
>>736657743Kagura is like half a charge character since his most important combo links are using his sonic boom. He helped ease me into the whole charge character thing since charging during the long animations of his stance attacks made a ton of sense to me.I kind of want to branch out and play more charge characters. Vat requires holds which I'm not too good at but I do want a close range charge character with a bunch of command normals to help facilitate forward-back charges and stuff. Kind of like Saki from Arcana Heart.
>>736671397If you're straight and over 20, no
>>736671397both games are in a very good spot right now, you can't go wrong. ignore the larpers on this board who don't play fighting games and only seek to demoralize the board with jewish tactics
>>736671601>>736672584did they add gatling to Strive?
>>736659038I am weird about loli Chang.
>>736672584Nah they're both shit, braindead games made for retards that don't play Fighting Games. Which is why they're the most popular games in their franchises in years. It's why their playerbase is filled with people like Smash players, vtubers, and others who have never touched any other Fighting Game.
>>736672886shalom, don't you have a war to be losing shlomo?
>>736672830Of course not. The patch literally says they are done trying to be like old GG and they accept Strive is Strive.
>>736672970well then, >>736671397 stick to XX or Xrdunless you're a pedo troon
>>736657743Generally no. Its my least favourite control type. I like the SNK type charge characters who's charge attacks are basically instant but most games make the charge characters very uncomfortable to play.
When are they bringing back girl Choi?
>>736657743It’s 360 grapplers for me.
>>736674109Malin? Maybe never.
>bedman>is actually a young girl
>>736665597Crazy.
>>736675257tbf that isn't Bedman, it's Bedman?
nothe only charge character i like its that kof guy on the left
I like fighting them. I have a hard time waiting for the charge to finish while somebody is running to tackle me so I don't play as them.
its very likely strive passes sf6 in players later today
Were going to play charts again huh. Alright whose first?
>>736677382Arcsys’ masterpiece remains underrated…
>>736677382Gonna let SNKNIGGAS know that they should be bowing to GAWDsys from now on. They should just wish SNK gives Arcsys the license to make a new KOF or Samsho, so something SNK can finally, actually be successful and loved for once since 2001.
>Invincible VS and Tokon being talked about in this threadBoth of those games will be dead in under 1 month (Tokon maybe 2 because mahvel nostalgia bait game) once Maxdood, Sajam, and the other FaGCs stop getting paid to make content for it. That'll be $90 for our discord fighter preeeese!!!
>>736678472I've been bouncing back and forth between CotW and Strive today. 2.0 update feels nice so far, but it's kind of hilarious how slow Strive feels when you come back to it from CotW.
>>736678985/v/ will get so assblasted for Tokon succeeding lol
I haven't played Strive in a long while (since Bedman update)did they change anything big with Baiken or is she mostly the same since I kinda want to get back into it lateri just like using her counter move a lot
>>736678985tokon is like the most obvious success ever wtf are you talking about lol
Back>forward charge is common, down>up only slightly less so. I've seen forward>back and up>down charges too.Does any fighting game have a neutral charge character?
>>736678985Tokon is an arcsys game post dbfz AND post strive popularity, has a pretty arcsys anime style, is a game that can be played like a 1v1 instead of a tag game, and has marvel shit attached. You'd have to be dumb or delusional to think that game dies anywhere near that quick.
>>736679524COTW is a 1v1 game and it failed tremendously though.
>>736679810>Dogshit meme franchise no one but 30 retards who went senile yesterday liked vs CAPESHIT+DBFZ-cloneMy dude
>>736678472cotw is unc core
>>736657743I do :^)
>>736678472COTW is only for hardcore fighting game fans. It isn't for trannies like Strive
>>736679428>Does any fighting game have a neutral charge character?This guy
>Charge down-up while doing 6B -> 6BI've done charging up-down after a 6B which follows naturally from a jump-cancel but down-up during a forward command normal really messed me up for a bit, especially since the timing is so strict at the tail end of the combo.
>>736680269>COTW is only for hardcore fighting game fansYIKES seems like catering to "hardcore fighting game fans" isn't something a company should do at all seeing as it results in abysmal sales, losing your CEO, likely tremendous profit-loss, no growth, and much more. Capcom and Arcsys released their most successful Fighting Games ever, while SNK released one of the biggest failures/bombs in Fighting Game history. Seems like SNK should revaluate their design-process and target-audience fast if they don't want the desert-billionaires who bought them to get bored, and dissolve them.
I think SNK's brand power isn't nearly as powerful to attract new people. "New" isn't really something SNK does other than just bring back oldies that few people have nostalgia for.
If only comboing into supers with charge characters was easier.Supers should always be a motion input. Having charge supers makes pulling them off excessively fiddly.
Awww getting filtered by delta motion?
>>736679810Anon you cannot compare anything arcsys makes to anything snk makes anymore man. Arcsys will do dumbshit often but they also makes games look gorgeous which is enough of a major drawing point that it will succeed and they still have never done anything as retarded as handling a game as badly as Samsho 2019.
SNK death when?
>>736681118I don't know why anyone who actually plays fighting games would give a shit.
picked up kimberly recently because i wanted a secondary for my sagat and i like ninjas. she's a lot of fun and people at my shitter rank don't really know how to deal with her mixups. her overdrive teleport is really strong and catches people off guard all the time
>>736659038>trailer advertises being available on PC via the XBox app>two hours into the beta and it's still not upI'm pissed, I would have accepted not having a PC beta but they got my hopes up by promising it
YesI hate that capcom is afraid to make new charge characters and is even taking characters with charge inputs and making them motion
>>736684545Arcsys is doing that too. Axl doesn't have to charge Rensen anymore.
>Entire combo structure became unstable or gone>Pressure got completely gutted >Single Stain barely lets you get a 5K>6H pickup>Crow HKD mix is gone>Nostrovia nerfed extra hard by the wallbreak changes, wasn't even buffed to give two stains>PRC changes makes Crow PRC>Teleport crossups worthless>Double Stain is useless in pressure since Stain was already so advantageousWhy the fuck did Arcsys murder a mid tier?This character doesn't have a single fun thing to do left
>>736669849Robot's thing is that he isn't actually a robot, he's just pretending to be one at the start of the series
>>736657743I love em. The fucking genocide of charge characters is a grave crime that the Japanese will have to answer for
>>736684791>why did they nerf my main in the “nerf every single character” patch?
I've never played a full charge character, just mixed ones.
>>736679428Isn't that broadly a hold?
SNK won
shitty flopped chatgpt made game award
>>736684791That's what you get for playing a tranny game as a tranny character also wrong thread, faggot.
>>736685778I'm fine with nerfs, Dizzy's routes got worse (same as a lot of characters) and removing HKD S Sword is a big nerf (but healthy), but they understood that they need to re-assess her strengths so they gave her alternate versions of fish to setup new stuff and alternative RPS situations on oki/6HSome characters even got "buffed" from having minimal nerfs and adjustments, I think Venom is probably going to start being decent now, and I'm happy because they buffed fun stuff (hitting balls, QV RPS) and nerfed unfun stuff (spamming stinger)Testament legitimately got fuckedThe double stain thing could have made sense when Crow gave HKD, which would have enabled Crow Ender > OTG 236S > Crow, but right now the only way to guarentee it is if you wallsplat with Crow and wallbreak with Nostrovia, which is nicheYou can get a safejump after fS on Stain 2x, which is ok since you have a high/low mix, but the reward is middling for how much more work you need to do
>>736688019its likely testament will be overbuffed in a future patch in response to this so just be patient kek
>>736688393I don't want them to overbuff Testament later, I wanted to either play more of the fun zoner we had previous patch, or see a reworked take on the character where everything is new and people can discover cool options that didn't exist beforeThis version of the character just feels like shit, the changes do not create anything that didn't exist before (stain 2x gives combo and pressure when stain used to give combo and pressure) and it feels even worse when tons of characters got cool new options (eg. Elphelt charged fireball, Bedman's enhanced errors...)
>>736684791Who do you think arcsys is bandai namco? They know no one likes testament so no compensation buffs that actually matter here for characters like testament and bridget my negro.>>736687901You should learn to read thread subjects
>>736684791because Testament is a boring and annoying character to play against
>>736657743No Yun-Seong, no buy some.
Never knew how to play charge, I followed the special moves inputs & nothing happened.
>>736657743>do you like charge characters>posts two of the shittiest charge characters in fightan history
>>736689558Get real, they kept giving Testament small buffs every patch, S4 Testament was pretty decentBridget actually got shit, there's an entirely new version of Rolling Movement and the slash followup launches, which gives a combo in the corner and a manually timed safejump anywhere on screen if you do Rolling Movement (no yoyo) > Delay Air Dash, it's not huge but it's coolAlso Bridget didn't transition into a fucking 3-Step character>>736690134I can get that, but they didn't even do anything to address people spending their time spamming backdashes/teleports or gimmicky ass Arbiter Sign "mixups"You can still play Testament in the most stale, boring way, but it's worse now, and all the cool shit is gone
>>736657743yes, they're great
>>736657743I used to hate playing charge. Turns out I just hate it in Street Fighter because charge times are super long in those games. It's fine in GG or SNK games for example.Either way I mostly just play shotos and basic-ass rushdown charcters.
>>736684604I was considering giving Strive another try but then I remembered they made him a motion character and I have something against the 236 motion for some reason.
>noo you cant play strive you need to play sakura pantsu blizzard 3 extend rev 420 overhypemaXXX final bout!!! (only released on few arcade machines in inner mongolia and never ported)
>>736691262You could never get a round off me in sakura pantsu blizzard 3 doe
>>736691262no one said that
>>736691262I said that and look like that
>>736690491guile will always exist, and they made dee jay actually fun in sf6 and he still has his charge stuff. most charge characters in fightan are now hybrids though outside of guile
charge is just not intuitive to play in matches. charge timings change between games and sometimes even between moves on the same character. most games don't tell you when you have charge and don't tell you that you can build charge during other actions. the nature of charge also means you can't just pull off a charge move whenever you want so at least for a bit you have to actively tell yourself to be holding those directions to build charge for when you need it.
>>736662343>Sean>Really fucking cool moveset>it's shitWhat a shame
>>736691262>sakura pantsu blizzard 3it fell off after the overhypemaXXX update
>>736691589Yeah i believe you but playing SF6 gives me brain cancer symptoms. -Strive- has only one real Charge characterThe new upcoming games Invincible vs., Tokon Marvel and Avatar seem like they don't have a single Charge character. Charge characters are pretty much dead.
>>736690491>May sucks in -Strive-wtf is this dude talking about lmao
>>736691740>sean is...le coolfuck off max nothing cool about that nigger hes literaly dan but without the comedic relief
>>736691856out of all current fighting games i think vatista might be the only full charge character other than guile, unless theres one in cotw i guess
>>736690736>small buffs every patch>decentLike I said, no buffs that actually matter.
Thoughts?
>>736691949The reason Kain was so damn easy to pick up was because he stopped being a charge character iirc
>>736691949>unless theres one in cotw i guessMai has one charge move but is motions otherwise.Kain used to be charge in older games but now he is motions outside of his flash kick.
>>736692105cringe turbo-normie e-celeb garbage
>>736692105No interest
>>736692105i see no issue with this, i don't get why people are melting down over it. its just a fun showmatch on the side who cares and tyler1 is a funny clown
>>736660057Blur Mary just came out anon.
>>736691949Maybe because it's discord anime fighter. Rock and Kauser having Charge move is just their respective way of being the ''having the best tools'' character types. Kain is ofc the resident Zoner of CotW but i don't remember did he have Charge moves other than hes Guile Somersault.
>>736692236I don't think having one charge move makes her a charge character.
>>736663345she's always had a thing for pretty boys
>>736692327The more likely reason is that Vatista was first playable in 2012
>>736657743Man I think Leona and Heidern are cool as fuck but I never put in the time to learn charge characters properly.
>>736678985Invincible and Tokon have normie fanbases that are starving for a fighter during this Netherrealm drought. They're not going anywhere.
>>736691956Tier-wise, maybe, but if I was here to be a tierwhore I'd play Happy Chaos like an uninspired slutThe patches gave you extra shit to do or made other things more stable, and the character kept getting more and more fun to playI don't care about character strength, I just think they threw all the fun out and now the character's absolutely worthless
sf6's chart data is really funny, the jappas really love this game
>>736692535Yeah were talking about characters and games in 2026. Bro Guile was in 1991. If Under Nights was released today do you think they had any Charge input?
>>736692363but it's a charge move i like
>>736691941Ryūbi kyaku, that tackle attack and rolling sabat are pretty cool move. Also his sister is hot
>>736692752Kuon is a charge character and he debuted in UNI2
>>736692834He's got one charge move, I don't think that really counts.Wald has one too but no one calls him a charge character.
>>736692887the modern charge character is really just a hybrid. i think its fine for the most part but i do miss pure charge characters. deciding to put m bisons scissors on a motion input was wack
>>736692979I pray if either of Vat's sisters become playable that they're fully charge characters too.But I guess in the age of DLC characters, potentially handicapping accessibility like this would be slightly counterintuitive for a general audience who already have trouble with inputs.
>>736657743
>>736658453>>736658401>>736658352>>736658198>>736657743What if charge characters are always in charging state as long as you don't enter the forward input?Like in Fantasy Strike
>>736693403How fucking hard is it to do Sonic Boom?Like play Tekken or some shit if it's that hard.
>>736693452i'm pretty bad at up down charges, back forward charges are easy though especially because most charge characters have a command normal that will move them forward
>>736693503it's fucking easy like literally pres forward and punchhttps://youtu.be/oeVGCuwAHus?si=i5Rc6yk1U53xmDlt&t=80
Killer Instinct fans are really going to love having another dead game!
>>736693742breathe through your nose
Hate that I have to wait for Evo Japan for Ingrid's gameplay trailer.
>>736690996
>>736693742Will it have more players than CotW?
>>736694358very likely yes but probably mostly on console, its very normie coded
>>736694358Maybe for a bit but it doesn’t feel like a game that’ll last
>>736665597This image is wrong in a couple of places.Raggy and Jin's sister Saya is not Prime Field 5, Prime Field 5 is the "mother" of the three of them.Alpha isn't actually a real character, and is not "Saya".Gamma is a single image Mori drew once, and is not "Saya" as far as we know.Kiiro is not "Saya".Es (Nobody literally IS Es btw) and the Es-N's are not "Saya".Bell is not "Saya".Being a Prime Field Device does not mean you're a clone of The Origin, she was just the first one.Sorry for the autism.
>>736692887I mean I doubt we'll ever see an existing IP add a Guile clone because chances are there already is/was a Guile clone in the roster so your only hope is a new indie fighter
>>736693742Killer Instinct was alive for 5 years bros what are you talking about?
>>736693437Don't tell this to fighting game fans, they might start chartposting.
>>736675257Bedman is IN the bed. The girl is Bedman's sister, Bedgirl, but since she's not the one you control she doesn't get the character select name
>>736693437This kills the SFag/shills
>>736693437Expanding out is definitely interesting. Going from +R to 3rd strike and Alpha 3. And maybe trying uni2 some more.
What about Slap games?
Just play whatever you have the most fun playing. It's that simple.
i used to be a singleplayer only fighting player but the ranked bug got me good when i started climbing in sf6. the mindgames vs an actual human is so much more fun even if im being stomped
>>736695413Man. Arcsys is so fucked up now why couldn’t this have been dizzy’s new design
>Claims he likes +R>Doesn't even have 5000 matches >Claims he likes Blazblue (Steam) >Doesn't even have 10,000 matches >Claims he plays 3rd Strike (Fightcade)>Doesn't even have 25,000 matches Tourist. All of you. Fucking tourist. What will be the new tourist game in the next 5 to 10 years, Strive?
>>736695606I have like 15,000 matches in +R and almost 8000 were within a year ago
>>736693437Based. I'd play his game but I have 0 interest in Invincible
>>736695687sure
>>736694382The game has crossplay thoughbeit.
>>736695606>>736695687>>736695927i have 150k matches now suck my cock
>>736695927I’d post a screenshot but I don’t wanna roll out of bed, next time
>>736695606Can I claim I like xrd?
>>736696136Get it up to 100k
>>736696136>no ranked at allNope.
bumped
>youtube recommends me soulcalibur vi stream with single digit views>spends 35 minutes searching for an opponentthe state of SCucks
guys, hello? we just released a new character, Akali! hello?! we got lots of new skins for you to buy! guys come on it's free... guys it's starting to get cold... riot is threatening another round of layoffs...
>>736692105I don't know very much about Ludwig as a person or personality but just looking at him makes me hate him intensely. He has a silver spoon look to him.
>>736697376.....
>>736695606absolutely, when the next GG comes out we will have people claim Strive was real GG, +R will be a truly forgotten game and Xrd will be the go to "old game I pretend to play to seem cool online" choice
>>736697445he's one of those personalityless internet people that are brand friendly, white bread thinks hes white.
>>736697465Can't wait to main big angry giant spider boss mecha robot!!
>>736693742Game looks neat but it's going to get fucked by 2XKO & Tokon. The license will only keep it going so long when its tag game competitors have much larger IPs and budgets. I also just don't think the tag mechanics are reinventing the wheel in an interesting way; it's mostly just ways to force resource management and keep the pace of matches fast so you don't have situations like in DBFZ where smart tagging can lead to grindy games that go to time semi-often. Also doesn't help that they're really stretching to make the roster have differentiation in gameplay to the point where I think they'll probably have to make more OCs if they make DLC.By contrast, Avatar sticking to 1v1 with the "assist" characters just being Variations under a new name gives that game so much room to breathe within the space.
>>736684791If you think that's bad imagine being an Axl player and having every patch being utter disappointment.
>>736697512+R will never die, I’ll be running around as Zappa until the end of the world
>>736698007You’re heavily overrating 2xko I don’t think it’s in a much better situation
>>736693742The beta is fun, if not a little basic. I think it will be a good first fighting game if any Invincible fans stick with it.I hope they put Oliver in the game.
charge characters are for high IQs only
M. Bison not longer being a charge character still feels weird to me
>>736698153Did Axl ever get a bad patch or is it legacy Axl players being mad at Strive being a different game?I know they kept doing weird back and forths with him but he was solid as fuck in the last patch It seems like he just got buffed both individually, and in regards to system mechanics, for example I think Winter Mantis as a command throw would suck ass with the removal of throw whiff PRC, so it makes sense to be a low and it's also hella plus
>>736698007You guys are not even paying attention to Invinible yet make these calms it will die. Last I check all of the MvC community is playing Invinible
>>736657743I really don't know how or why they just... make sense? Like Guile was the very first fighting game character I learned how to play back in like 1994, and when I got back into fighting games in 2009 with SF4 I pretty much floated between characters constantly until I found myself utilizing motion/charge hybrid characters like Alex when 3rd Strike Online came out. Now I charge characters and charge hybrids are mostly whom I play in any fighting game. They're fun. Funnily enough I didn't return to playing Guile again until SF6 and he was my main until Alex released.>but Alex doesn't have charge moves anymoreI don't care, I'm a bigger Alex fan than I am Guile.
>>736699050No patch ever nerfed him but he never developed a gameplan beyond high risk, no reward zoning and hoping you can maintain lifelead.The Winter Mantis change doesn't matter since it was never a good mix but the 2K nerf is retarded when his defense was already garbage to begin with.
>>736698772I agree 100%
>>736658710This. Peak fighter design.
>>736662861based fucking hugo
>>736699880No, not you.
>>736698772total makoto death
>>736699604You're responsible for the risks you take, he has plenty of non-commital options and he does consistent damage now against bad jumps/air dashes if you play reactivelyI'd get the complaint over 2K if it was a singular nerf but it's universal, and his was exceptionally good being a fucking 5F low-profileSickle Storm also isn't even that bad, there's a bunch of other reversal supers with the same startup and it's still better than having absolutely nothingidk, any time I hear Axl players complaining, they make it sound like they're playing Faust
>When I come to /v/>Super skilled Fighting Games players from the old thuggery era that have to teach these kids a lesson >When I befriend or play someone in a fighting game from /v/>Casual as fuck nigga who uses the OS talkingbout "yeah I jsut got into these hardcore games" and "man you're so good dude" after I bop them in any game we playSigh.
>>736700986Play some anime fighters
>>736701262I'm playing Strive nigga
>>736701393Play ones with less posers, I know some anons here are pretty good at under night and blazblue.
>>736675257>gets turbobuffed>nobody will figure it out since nobody plays Bedman?giving him install errors for free is a choice
>>736701463So you can't beat me in Strive , got it, lmao
>>736701780Correct, I never played Strive to begin with.
>>736701871Then stay in your lane nigga lmao
>>736700772The point is he's an underwhelming zoner in a game with retarded rushdown and the dumbfucks at ASW spent more time fiddling with his corner routing than actually considering how he would get anyone there in the first place.I'm not even mad that he's not his old self. The game already has enough mid range chars with high damage and long blockstrings. What I'm mad about is that he has no identity.
>*crashes your thread*Super Smash Bros is my favorite fighting game
>>736702625Smashfags killed a guy and propped up a child rapist.
>>736702625cool do you like kazuya, terry or ryu?
Goodbye
>>736700986This is not exclusive to /v/ you have no idea how much of a 1%er you are even if you're just an above average player in a fighting game. The average player is casual. Pro player make up 0.1% of the community. People tend to forget how niche the competitive side of any community is because everyone now thinks that game easier = bigger pro player pool when that is entirely false
anyone up for mbaacc? be warned I'm in EU tho
>>736703247Hell yea! I have not played mb in so long and I want to get back into it. Ill join
>>73670330984.168.102.52:10800
>>736703715Do you have a hug ass irl?
>look up strive combos>nigger rap gun and ball musics in the background I'm getting old bros... I feel so old
>>736700986the only anons who regularly play and more importantly try to improve at fighting games on this board are the five people who show up when you make a late night UNI thread
>>736658718>charge partitioning makes me go insane because I can’t do it for some reasonYou can't do it because it's pointlessly difficult. I'm not one of these bitches who wants to abolish the quarter circle but come on
>"concept" why do people say this?
>>736679524Looks so unfun though.
>>736693437That's fucking disgusting.
High IQ characters for high IQ players
>>736695606Most difficult fighter vs rocket league which game has higher ceiling
>>736693437I'm having fun.
>>736669849Robot is a deformed baby in a tube who lives through remote controlled drones pretending to be a robot, some time later he clones himself a 10yo healthy body and starts living properly while using the robot drone as armor. He can also remote control multiple drones.Monster Girl is a teen whore who made a move on a gypsy guy while being on a school trip and his mom cursed her. She can turn into a giant (male) troll, but every time she transforms, she de-ages a little. She's in her 30s but looks like she's 10 years old.Her troll forms size also depends on how much she de-aged. When she first transformed it was a scrawny little thing, in the show she is like a giant ogre, and there's an alt universe where she de-aged to an infant and her troll form is Godzilla sized and the Viltrumites are vary of unleashing it again because they are not sure they can stop it.
>>736706201I wish I could enjoy games like you do.
>>736706201This isn't really you, you liar, you stole this from another post...
>>736672871Holy fuck this nigga can’t draw feet to save his life
>>736702661These characters caused so much seethe for smashtards, it was a glorious time
>>736695606>Doesn't even have 10,000 matchesI'm at 350, give me some time
>>736658510i bought this because im a martial arts tard and its not actually that bad. its weirdly fleshed out for a one man unity pile with 40 characters with massive tekken sized move lists and a weird dodge mechanic. its kind of neat if you're a geek about fighting styles but its a bit low rent, if the input delay wasn't so rough i think this could be really fucking fun vs a friend
>>736657743yes i love playing shaheen
>>736706201WOAH
>>736657743I love them, but I'm absolute trash at playing them.Most of the cooler characters wind up being charge-based, if not exclusively charge.
>>736691625https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2JfLK-oN_8Because most games put something stupid like 60+ frame charge, even if plus out of wazoo you still need commit for setups. KOF charge characters are dangerous as fuck thanks to mechanics and short ass charge. 30~ frames.
holyshit invinicible has real combo sauce like a MvC game I did not think the game was high depth
>>736712441huh there's a charge Robert? neat.
Funny thing is Nishitani specifically made charge characters in SF2 for people who couldn't do motion inputs, but nowadays people say motion inputs are easier.
Today I shall remind this.>>736712857Robert movelist change per game, phase of moon of if devs feel like. It still keep input supers but get all the jazz of most charge characters, and ofc that fucking 1 frame super.
>>736657743discount faggot guile and 2 of the cheapest characters in fighting.
The one thing about the last decade of Street Fighter I am just getting exhausted of is having to grind oki setups to death just to beat up on mashing shitters. Maybe for really good players this isn't a big deal because they're going to do really tight stuff anyways but man getting blasted by JABS4LIFE420SMOKEIT hammering the square button every time he gets knocked down because I'm not dead on time is just lame. Even on the defending end trying to guess whether they missed their oki and you get to blow them up or it just looks jank as fuck is not a fun time and everybody gets pissy about the bland looking strike/throw mixups that go with it, like there's nothing cool about just dashing up to someone and hitting them with a medium punch because they didn't block.
>>736698007>it's going to get fucked by 2XKOLMAO 2xko can barely stay relevant it's not raping anything
>>736712441i forgot which game was it that completely removes the charge time if you go into some activated super modeso you can just tap 46p46p46p
>>736662082Nigga sf6 is getting 10 seasons minimum. In the meantime you can play littteraly anything else
>>736671397Strive is still ass so no
>>736715284Yes free cancel remove charge but only if you already cancelled some charge move already but timer still rolls and is possible to lot of jank stuff thanks to this, absolutely mandatory for ash trials.
i like charge characters like zangief or akuma they can charge in and do big damage
>>736658806you could parry os his dive, the thing that made him cheap in sfii would not work in 3s
i've used an xbox pad for fighting games for like a decade at this point and its starting to fuck up my thumb now that i've been taking it more seriously. i don't wanna switch to leverless but i might need to change over to dualshock which has a better dpad
>>736715567How is it not good?
Strive sucks.
My cock
>>736700986PULL UP AND CATCH THE FADE BRO
>>736715459that's a long sagat
I like this character
>>736719474It took Strive's systems for Noel's gameplay to truly shine.
>>736658146I hate how fighting games are impossible to enjoy without buying arcade sticks. It'll forever gatekeep my ass away from it.>try to do a Z move on jojo >switch pro controller detects "up" inputs from my crosspad 8 times out of 10>if I use the joystick the flat slick surface gives no friction, and my thumb inevitably slips to the right. So I have to recenter it every three seconds.What happened to previous generation joysticks with a texture on the top giving you a sure grip? Why is the overpriced snitch 1 pro controller using plastic? Are they out of dog snouts? Is PETA to blame?
>>736719772Literally every fighting game made and released this decade is perfectly playable with a padSome are even optimized for it.
>>736719772Pad works perfectly fine and keyboard is too. The menu controls are the worst part of using a keyboard because they dont let you rebind menu keys a lot of the time
>>736719772I think the fact you're playing on a fucking switch is what's doing it.But like the others have said, a stick isn't going to automatically make shit easier.
>>736719796Do you imply that they ditched the Z moves that cause so much pain for gamepad poorfags? I don't know shit about fighting games and I know even less about new games. I tried some old games and demos and that's it.
do you think we'll ever get a detailed post-mortem of what was going on in 2XKO's dev team for the last 10 years
>>736719904Several new fighting games have easy mode controls that allow you to do special moves without actually using the inputs, some games penalize you more than others but the option is there. I think the games that DON'T have said options like Strive, KoF XV or CotW at least have pretty decent input readers so it's easy to pull them off anyway. I'm probably biased because I have used a gamepad more than I've used a stick, but I still genuinely think it's perfectly doable.
>>736719904I've always used pad and DP motions were never hard but then again I always use a playstation controller. Maybe the Xbox dpad causes issues or maybe they're retarded and use the analog stick but you literally slide your finger right down right and it just works
>>736720008Cotw also has a baby mode 1 button specials you bitch ass nigga
>>736720153Can a dpad drift or is it again the pro controller being shit? I'm not making shit up, my toon is jumping whenever I use the directional pad. I'm considering using super glue to secure my thumb on top of the joystick and ditch the dpad.
>>736720209It does? I never noticed. How do you even select it?
>>736720285they can if the underneath breaks but I missed that you were using a pro controller. I've never used it myself but I've always heard the dpad on the pro controller is noticeably bad but that's hearsay on my part
Should I play guilty gear if I don't like fighting gamesI've played sf6 a bunch of mortal Kombat and smash ultimateDidn't like them but my friend is asking me to play gg
>>736720546>should I play game in a genre I don't like...no?Try and find something else that both you and your friend can enjoy.
>>736720575Pretty sad I don't like them because I think Lili is really cute
>>736720546you should probably just say you don't enjoy them.
>>736719945They were just leeching money, you gotta be pretty retarded to think otherwise since they released 6 characters this year easily
>>736669446looking at this roster, i don't think invincible's characters and their powers are interesting enough for a fighting game.
2xko is gonna release one more character this year doomers BTFO!
>>736721410>No ASOL, Swain, Fiddlesticks, Tahm Kench, Aatrox, Khazix, Rengar, GP, Chogath, fizz, jax, kassadin, khartus, kindred, mordekaiser, pyke>just generic characters and Arcane characters to attract the normiesYeah no wonder why this game is dying
>>736721278I don't know a whole lot about Invincible, I get that the author chose that to help with the way more visceral action of the show, but from what I've seen, the main issue is that there's a lack of variety in the powers. And some unique ones just result in the same outcome.>Invincible, Omni-Man, Allen and Bulletproof are all guys that can just fly real fast and punch real hard>Monster Girl is the Hulk, but again, that just results in punching real hardThe rest aren't bad imo, but when looking at the full roster there's way more characters like Invincible than anything unique. Compare that to a Marvel fighter for example.>Wolverine has his claws>Magneto has magnetism>Spider-Man has all the web slinging and swinging inbetween the punches>Storm has her weather powersThere's more than enough variety there to make a lot of unique characters.
>>736715284>i forgot which game was it that completely removes the charge time if you go into some activated super mode>so you can just tap 46p46p46pAsh works like that.
>>736680183>combo this man endlessly>open him up like 7 times>get potemkin buster'd 2 times>I am behind in the life lead
G-guys there is also snk sale going on....
>>736722724Is season 2 of CotW on sale?
>>736722724>Only KOF gamesSad.
>>736715956I tried dualshock but how do people use it, when I do left-right inputs quickly I just randomly jump
>>736657743How do I get over ranked anxiety?
>>736724761the worst they could probably do is tbag you and then message you telling you're trash and to kys, an entirely verbal interaction that you won't encounter 99% of the time. other than that, just treat the opponent as stronger CPUs. They can't harm you physically lil bro.
>>736724761The three things I always keep in mind whenever I'm playing Ranked in a fighting game is.>Your rank is literally just a number, not an indication of how good you or your opponent is at a fighting game.>Nobody gives a single fuck about your rank except for you. If you stop caring, then that number drops to 0 and you can just play without worrying about it.>Having a high rank doesn't mean you're magically going to stop getting your ass beat, there's always someone better than you so keep improving, even after you hit your target.t. I usually just play Ranked for the placement matches to see where I am at, and then just do unranked because I like longer sets. Don't play SF6 anymore, but I still have this old pic from a thread talking about ranks. On paper, the dude should rape me because his number/rank is way higher, but paper doesn't matter in a fightan match.
>>736725729>get mega high ELO>fight dude with none>destroys me because he's a pro who doesn't play ranked at all and just practices with other pros
Invincible is the most technical fighting game in the modern era now. It's got real Marvel vs Capcom combos. It's the hands down the best fighter now since it's got technical combos and technical setups. I did not think it was possible but we finally got a real traditional fighting game again
>>736725882too bad the game and characters are ugly so I won't play itapparently the devs are big fans of fighting games (and not LARPers like the 2xko ones) tho so it's to be expected
>>736725953Gameplay being good is all that matters. We finally beat the casual fucks (like you) for once. After 10 years we finally win.
>>736725729This just reminds me of all the times in the BH I'd get accused of smurfing back when I played SF6.No, retard. I'm not a gold rank because I wanted to trick you into getting wrecked by me. I did my placement matches months ago and I don't want to deal with the ranked grind full of rage quitters trying to protect their precious rank. If you're gonna take the time to check my rank after the match and send a message, you have the time to see all my BH and Practice hours.
Troons wont be playing Invincible and thats a good thing
Isn't there a troon making the game? Or just a female dev?
troons
>>736726156>Gameplay being good is all that mattersIf I have to play a game for 1k+ hours it has to look good or have characters I like sorry
Invincible is a game made for literal teenage boys and men. It filiters trannies and tranny chasers, sandniggers and actual niggers with AGP, the whole lot. All it has is WB Kids cartoon vibes but more edgy. You niggers swear you hate trannies and then when a game comes out that filters women and troons we all find out that you are also one of them lmao
>>736725807>be intermediate scrub>grind some character from D5 to Master>queue up late at night>get matched against someone who gets top 8s at majorsI appreciate he gave me a rematch but holy shit I got washedit was far more fun than the average ranked match against gorillas
trannies
If youre on /v/ you probably threw your manhood away along time ago sadly...
