I've been meaning to play Nier Automata. But the PC version STILL has Denuvo, and I'm not installing that malware on my computer. I didn't get Automata on my Switch though because I got the impression that version was too compromised for my comfort. But how well does the Switch version of Automata run on the NS2?
>>736659859>But the PC version STILL has Denuvohow are you hits retarded
>>736659971What version of Automata for PC can I get that doesn't have Denuvo? And don't you answer with some fucking bypass crack that doesn't do shit to actually remove Denuvo.
>>736660012Steam one? Come on, dude.
>>736660151>Steam one?It has Denuvo though. https://store.steampowered.com/app/524220/NieRAutomata/https://store.steampowered.com//eula/524220_eula_0>12.6 The PC version of the Product Software uses Sony DADC Austria AG’s Denuvo (“Denuvo”) content protection technology.
Aww sweet, a Schizo thread
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>>736659859>>736660297I don't think it has denuvo. SteamDB doesn't list it and I played it cracked years before the Yorha edition.
>>736660297Also, for your future information - SteamDB site have precise info on what technologies are detected in what game, you can also check history of changes in game files over patches and check packages yourself. Denuvo games have huge executable files, when you see their size being cut in half or 2/3 after some patch, it usually means that Denuvo got removed. Also, Steam curators keep track of these things and knows their shit.
>>736660374>>736660397>>736660462So they removed it, but they never updated the eula? Fucking hell.
>>736660397Holy shit, Umas are everywhere now. Next thing is I'm going to blink and /v/ will be renamed to /vuma/.
>>736660491You are probably the only dude bothered enough to read the EULA in recent years.>>736660497We call it /v/ma here.
>gachafag complaining about downloading malwarelmao
>>736659859I really really really like this image.
>>736659859CuteB
how is the game on switch 2 though?
>>736661219its awful on any console
>>736661620Really? I thought the pc version was kind of shit unless you patched it with a fan patch. But that the patch maker went full schizo and ruined the patch.
>>736661750Even without that patch it was better than any console but that patch isn't necessary anymore unless you want to uncap the frame rate or use texture mods.PS4 has blur you can't disable and all the ports run badly, below 60fps. And I'm not sure f the console ports have SSAO but if it does you probably can't turn that off either and it looks bad(turn it off if you play on PC).PC version runs the best, looks the best, and has a bunch of mods.
>>736659859Play Nier Replicant first if you're playing for the story. A lot of things that don't make sense if you go into Automata first will be made very clear.You don't have to 100% Replicant and it's not strictly mandatory since while Automata is a sequel, it takes place so long after Replicant that it's a rather unconnected to it for the most part, but it helps to go into that game first.>>736661750>>736661847There's WAX (wolf's Automatix eXtension) to replace Special K. It's backwards compatible with most SK mods and texture replacements and isn't made by a schizo that logs your IP.
>>736659859Just play the PC port.Do not support Nintendo's Jewish mafia business.>>736661750>I thought the pc version was kind of shit unless you patched it with a fan patchThis is why the Internet is such a dangerous invention: ages old memes and obsolete information is never deleted.No son, the ORIGINAL PC port was just fine... unless you were an early adopter of some 1440p + 144hz screens, meaning you couldn't get > 60fps without glitches.The average performance for the average user was fine already day 1. I played it on an oldass i7-2600 + GTX 1050ti, silky smooth 60fps at 1080p.The later created "Windows Store update" version, that later replaced the OLD Steam release, improved the stability and performance even more, on top of adding some QOL improvements, like an in-game option to tweak the Global Illummination, the biggest framerate killer for oldass GPUs.>>736661952>Play Nier Replicant first if you're playing for the story.While I get where you're coming from, that REALLY is not needed.For starters, notice how (You) are not recommending playing Drakengard 1 first, eventhough NieR1 is a direct sequel to its "true" ending?Same thing here. Every single DrakeNier game works as a standalone game, and it can be fascinating to go through the lore in a "reverse" order, like a digital archeologist.That's how I did it myself. I played Automata first, then got Gestalt and rest of Drakengards. And I kept getting my mind blown.If anything, not having the in-game lore connections helped me appreciate Nier Automata for its own merits and message. It connected the game's story and subtext to OUR world, our way of living .... which I honestly think is kinda the point.
>>736661952I already forget even though this was just a couple of weeks ago but special K is still needed for the fps unlock I'm pretty sure.I saw a cool mod that added a new HUD and it wasn't compatible with SK but it was buggy and didn't do that. It didn't even work with the lod mod(does some other stuff too)
>>736659859>malwareIf it can work on Linux without modification, then it never had low-level access to begin with. It's the hypervisor crack that's technically malware
>>736662127>The average performance for the average user was fine already day 1.That is not true. You could get 60fps but there was some really bad stuttering especially during cutscenes and the GI was set really high so lots of toasterfags couldn't even get 60fps. SK fixed that.It was always better than PS4 though. People saying the PC port was broken were mostly seething consolefags, but it wasn't great.
>>736662203>That is not true.It is. I fucking played the game without any mods or patches. Nearly 10 years ago.And it was one of the most life changing experiences I'd had with vidya since the N64 days.>You could get 60fps but there was some really bad stuttering especially during cutscenesThe cutscenes were 30fps locked FMVs, you dumb nigger. The gameplay was smooth as butter.And yes, I already mentioned the Global Illummination thing. But only people sticking to their GTX 560ti really needed that; the rest just had to be taught that no - you may not want to use 8x MSAA with 2018 tier PC resolutions.With the GI set to Low and modest 720p settings, even an office PC with Nvidia 740GT and i5-2500 could run the OG PC release 40-50fps average.Source: I tested it myself.
>>736660491Fact note to answer original question. If records are correct, big D was removed sometime in 2021.
>>736662424>The cutscenes were 30fps locked FMVs, you dumb nigger. And stuttered a lot, it was awful. Everyone used the mod unless they were mouth breathing retards like you.
>>736662527What are mandatory mods today?
>>736662592I would say these but there are others too, I saw a newer texture overhaul which might be to your liking. the old one is an upgrade but kinda underwhelming stillhttps://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/165https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/582https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/744https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/723https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/5https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/30 (just the A2 clean mod)and one of the 60fps fmv mods, I think I have this one https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/688 also SK for uncapped fps
>>736662592>What are mandatory mods today?None. Because like said : the "Windows Store edition" is now the standard version on all store fronts, and it runs great.
>>736662527>m-muh microstuttering!The 144+ hz fags consider even rock solid 60fps "stuttery" these days.Does not mean a thing, and cutscenes are cutscenes.
>>736663025And they're not wrong you retarded poorfag, 60fps is choppy if you have actual human eyes. That article says microstuttering but it was a stuttery mess. DF talks about it here, if you didn't notice it you are unironically a drooling retardhttps://youtu.be/vvnG3-JwLl4?t=178
>>736663137>60fps is choppy if you have actual human eyes.Nah, you are just a cock-chopping homo in a drag.Even 30fps, locked, is enjoyable in some games case.>DF talks about it here...Oh, you're one of THOSE special snowflakes. It all makes sense now.And GJ shilling a decade old video again. How about you stick to talking about the ONLY version available in 2026?
>>736663417The higher the frame rate the objectively better the experience is. You're only defending subhuman frame rates because you don't know any better, you can't afford them.You're a shit eating blind retard and I proved you wrong. Don't change the subject, we were talking about the original game from 8 years ago. It was a stuttery mess without SK.
>>736663526>You're only defending subhuman frame rates because you don't know any betterBoy, I grew up with fucking CRTs. I've seen framerates and lack of of input lag you couldn't even imagine.>we were talking about the original game from 8 years agoThat's right. That worked just fine for 90% of people, and TODAY has none of the issues people bring up.It's the same shit with STALKER, and how people still parrot nonsense from the 1.00 days.
>>736660297When the game has denuvo it usually says so next to the EULA, nobody reads that shit.
>>736663654>im old, senile, poor, and retardedIt was obvious
>>736660297>Still using steam when it allows this shitare gabens yachts so important to you?
>>736663732the game
>>736663685>it usually says so next to the EULAYeah. Usually. But I've always read the EULA since sometimes the page itself doesn't actually mention it.
>>736659859cute pic op njoy ur u
>>736663742I'll get it on the NS2 if it's good on it.
>>736663685I read EULAs. Since many developers are not honest and hide shit here (like how many Chinese ones won't tell you outside of EULA that they use kernel-level anticheat), this is the only way. There are dicky publishers that copy paste EULA but better safe than sorry.
>>736663952I was thinking of picking it up for the switch as well, I already beat it on PC but I want to own it physically too.
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>>736662840thanks
>>736663952I unironically wish they would have allowed her to wear a Princess Peach costume. Would have looked better on 2B than on Bayonetta.
>>736661952>Play Nier ReplicantShould I play the remaster or the original? I see a lot of conflicting info about it. Is it a superior experience like RE1 remake that only fags complain about, or a slopped up remake like RE2+ that only fags defend?
>>736659859pirate it ?
>>736660297denuvo was quite literally removed from it long ago, it's been years
>>736662127>While I get where you're coming from, that REALLY is not needed.That's what I'm saying. It helps a lot to understand the lore but isn't strictly necessary. >For starters, notice how (You) are not recommending playing Drakengard 1 first, eventhough NieR1 is a direct sequel to its "true" ending?Let's be honest, that's just because Drakengard is a real slog to even get to the true ending. The things you have to do to get it are beyond most people's threshold of pain and patience.Otherwise, I agree. Nier isn't that connected to Drakengard outside of the latter's ending. The world of Nier is its own thing and it's better for it.>If anything, not having the in-game lore connections helped me appreciate Nier Automata for its own merits and message. It connected the game's story and subtext to OUR world, our way of living .... which I honestly think is kinda the point.Fair enough. I just like the story of the DrakenNier games and how the characters in said world(s) are still so human despite living in world completely unlike ours. It's the same but different. I do like how you make the connection between each game and our world and the way we live. It brings to light why these games are so great: they're about people at the end of the day and their struggles to make life worth living.>>736665159Either one is good, but the remaster does add in the true ending to Nier that isn't in the OG Gestalt or Replicant along with adding in all the Recycled Vessel DLC into the main game. Plus, if you're on PC, you can mod it as well. In my opinion, that's the definitive version.
>>736662840>WAX>SK for uncapped fpsdont use WAX and SK together.SK's framerate uncap is literally broken and unfinished, it can and most likely will cause various scripted events and cutscenes to not trigger.And with WAX you can also inject textures, so SK becomes redundant.
>>736665475Explain like I'm retarded. How can it be the true ending and not a retcon if it wasn't in the original game?
>>736665523>dont use WAX and SK together.seemed to work for me, but if you can't use both then drop wax
>>736665549NTAoriginally the game ended with ending D, but there is an official epilogue in the form of a novel in a guide book which functions as ending E, which was not included in the original game cause of budget constraints, but was always the official true ending of Replicant.In the remake they included it in the game, along other content that was cut from the original for the same reasons.>>736665645why would you drop the better of the two?WAX has a lot more feature to offer than SK, as well as offering the same features SK does(both texture injection AND fps uncap, although the latter is still WIP, but still working better than SK's), and WAX is a requirement for most recent mods anyway.
>>736665549In all the DrakenNier games, the real ending is always Ending E.The true ending (Ending E) was a novella calles "The Lost World" that came out sometime after the game was already made. I forget why they didn't include it in the game, but it was probably budgetary reasons since Cavia, the OG devs of Nier:Replicant and Gestalt, went out of business after releasing Nier. Anyways, the story of that novella is in Nier Replicant 1.22... in the form of Ending E.
>>736665839supposedly they were constrained on time because some editor or publisher wanted them to make papa nier because american audiences
>>736665839>that came out sometime after the game was already madeonly partially true.it came out 1 month after the game release, but was written alongside the game cause it serves as a guide and companion to the game and, iirc, was supposed to come out only 1 week after the release of the game, but was delayed due to some mishaps with the printing process.So while it's true that it came out afte the game, it was made along side it, and this is important to note cause people often mistake the fact it came out after the game as if it was an afterthought and retcon/addition to the game, which is not.
>>736665159The remake is objectively better since you can mod the music(the only real complaint people had).>>736665753>AND fps uncapWell it doesn't mention that
>>736660491this is standard practice with shitty publishers who love denuvo.for instance, sega puts in the EULA for every game by default that it has denuvo, even on games that don't. it's just standard to them.
>>736666184>>736665753oh I see it just added fps unlocking yesterday, so it's brand newif true then SK is probably dead
>>736666476the goal of WAX is indeed to replace SK and provide better implementation of its features in relation to Automata, along other QOL features, but keep in mind WAX fps uncap is still WIP, as example, hacking is sped up with fps uncapped, but cutscenes and events work.On the other hand, SK's fps uncap can break things easily, imagine this happening to you during this mission https://sendvid.com/kac1koet(i'd use catbox, but it seems it's kinda broken atm)
>>736666905Nier is the weirdest and most pointless game to get so many mods. If it weren't for 2B I doubt it would have gotten any.
>>736666969>Nier is the weirdest and most pointless game to get so many mods.what makes you say so?The fact it has a chapter select and an open map makes it an easy "sandbox" game to play just for the sake of it, which is why it gets so many mods.> If it weren't for 2B I doubt it would have gotten any.2B doesn't really have much to do with that, given that most mods replace the player model anyway.
>>736659859Unironically play ZZZ or Wuthering insteadExact same gameplay but without the endless boring repeated garbage in AutomataAutomata killed Platinum.
>>736667116NTA but the combat in Automata is terrible and it's basically the only thing you can doWhy would you even want to "just jump in?"
>>736667191>ZZZ and WUWA>exact same gameplay as Automatanot even close, what the fuck are you smoking>>736667250>the combat in Automata is terribleyou must have been playing it wrong then
>>736665475>Guys DrakkeNier is all about human struggles and working together and->*Checks Drakengard 3*>SEX SEX MASOCHISM SEX SADISM SEX MASTURBATION FUCKING SEX NOOOOOOOO MUH DRAGON>game becomes rhythm heaven I can't take anyone that tries to tell me Taro tells stories seriously Like every Japanese autuer he just slaps some basic-ass western philosophy terms and names onto a nonsensical plot full of tits and ass and calls it a day knowing fans will overanalyze it and provide meaning that was never there
>>736667286>Y-you just played it wrong!lol eat shit retard it's a mash fest with no cohesion or encounter designTaura couldn't put together a fun combat system if his life depended on it.
>>736667463>I can't take anyone that tries to tell me Taro tells stories seriouslythe novels released BEFORE Drakengard 3 literally explain why the game has that tone, and it's one of the most serious reason out thereyour lack of comprehension of a game theme isnt the game's fault.
>>736667286Sorry, you're right, both of those games give each character gimmicks that spice up the basic formula stolen from the worst Platinum games, making them much better than Automata.
>>736667573>Bro you don't get it the poopfartsex dialog is made super deep and complex if you read this separate novel
>>736667116No one really plays it the way you're suggesting. I would bet money most of the modders don't play it much.>2B doesn't really have much to do with that, She attracted autists. Other Platinum games don't get mods like this.
>>736667597>both games give the player a button that makes you do flashy automatic combos, that are also copied from other games>this somehow make them good gamesretard
>>736659859i really really like this .gif
>>736667670>Other Platinum games don't get mods like this.cause no one made the tools for them
>>736660537>>736660397Please don't turn this into a secret uma thread, I already got banned once this week
>Platinum is struggling to stay afloat making good games, licensed games aren't taking off despite high levels of effort >Taro approaches them>They let Taura steal a bunch of systems from other games with no rhyme or reason, hyperfocus on sculpting 2B's ass, and shove that shit out ASAP>It makes a killing, pushing Taura to the top of Plat and ensuring they would never make a good original ever again>Taura shits the bed harder than ever with Astral Chain even after begging Kamiya to come save him and Plat dies for goodRest in piss
>>736667670>a 10 years old game doesnt have many playersthat's not a strong argument
>>736667703>I didn't play Automata or ZZZ>I also can't readHilarious Automata and ZZZ and Wuthering are all bad games The latter are still superior to the former by a wide margin
>>736667783Right... because no one cares about them.>>736667849My argument is that it's weird it gets so many mods considering no one plays it and it's a random game that doesn't really benefit from mods
>>736667250Th combat in Nier Automata is great. What sucks is the level scaling. I play on hard so enemies start of very difficult and really good tests of skill and situational awareness that punish reckless play with taking tons of damage or even death and stay that way...until you surpass their level. Then they get retardedly easy. If anything, I'd want a mod that makes the level scaling a lot more even. The game is great, but fuck me the enemies should've stayed around your level to make the game more engaging at the later points. It would fix my main complaints of an otherwise good combat system in a great game.
>>736668205no one ever made a mod that fixed that huh? I agree that the RPG stuff is what ruins the combat
>>736668205>What sucks is the level scaling.>If anything, I'd want a mod that makes the level scaling a lot more even. The game is great, but fuck me the enemies should've stayed around your level to make the game more engaging at the later points. It would fix my main complaints of an otherwise good combat system in a great game.WAX adds optional enemy scaling, up to level 99, so it gives exactly what you want
>>736668326Oh shit. I didn't know that. How do you activate it? I'm using WAX now and I didn't see that when I last tried the game.>>736668308Tbf, the team was on a really tight budget and only had 2 years to make it. I imagine if they had more time this is something they would've solved immediately.
>>736668540>Oh shit. I didn't know that. How do you activate it? I'm using WAX now and I didn't see that when I last tried the game.it was a hidden feature(and sort of still is)if you haven't, update wax to the latest version 0.3.0 beta(released yesterday)in the mod page on nexus there's an image of a specific point on the map, read whats written on the image and go there, you should receive an in game mail.
>>736661952Seconding this guy, these games are about the story first most and having played Replicant first WILL greatly enhance your Automata experience. There are TONS of references to Nier 1 and its events are directly tied to Automata
After all this talk about Automata for years I've finally played it after finishing Nier Replicant and it's just horrendously bad. I can't think of a single redeeming feature. Combat? Utter dogshit for a Platinum title, I dare say it's even worse than Nier. Level design? What level design, have another awkward camera switch and be happy. Movement is rank ass with dash having that retarded delay anyway so good luck moving fast. Maybe the plot is good? Nope, basic bitch AI story. Add to this same boring side quests that Nier is famous for and lame RPG system. What the hell do people see in this shit?
>>736668205I'm sorry but the combat is a grab bag of mechanics from better games that aren't assembled with any care or intention.It is objectively not a well-designed combat system.
>>736665645hmm, if I read into it correctly then SK was replaced by WAX in every way in current day
>>736668925>What do people see in itThe basic ass platinum gameplay seems amazing to the kind of person willing to play the other Nier/Drakengard gamesBesides that? Ass and lemmings behavior.
>>736668925u are too dumb to understand itsorry
>>736668675 I'm about to go to work but I've downloaded the latest WAX version and I'll set it up later.Thanks mate.
>>736667834Why must good studios die like this
