Deltarune's Chapter 2 released in 2021, it took 5 fucking years for Noelle to actually show up as a playable character again, in Chapter 5. Well, at least everything points to her being playable in Chapter 5, I hope Toby doesn't actually plan something else.
I love Yuri Kriselle!!
>>736681692Why is she the Brandish girl?
>>736681692>>>/vg/ isnt there a thread up already?
>>736681850Kris is a boy, and also not a nigger
>>736681895Brandish was one of Toby's inspirations for Undertale and Deltarune
>>736681850Why does Noelle have two different colored eyes
>>736682376For the same reason "Kris" has colored skin: twitter trannies hate beauty and symmetry
>>736681692I saw art of Noelle wearing this outfit but she had a gigantic futa cock and Jack Frost was in the picture too
>>736681959Kris isn't a boy, he's a MAN, Toby loves niggers and I'm Noelle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jD_FpkTPM
>>736681692hmmm, ii know this ass
>>736681850I HECKING LOVE YURI
>>736683823>when the yuri troon is so gay you can't even tell the art is yuri
give me some funny pics to make deltarune edits of
>>736683893take the Bogdanoff on telephone picture and make it Carol
>>736683893Cute and funny?
>>736683893>Tenna when he busts out the cowboy show attack.
>>736681850
>>736682376Deer with beautiful homophobia
>>736682376Because of that one rapebait scp that was turned into a gay deer.
>>736681692>>736683893I forgot. What points to her being a major part in ch5? I mean she really has no business snooping around Assgore's shop, much less going upstairs where the dark world is most likely to take place.There would have to be some significant event on the weird route if she were to participate but Ch5's number isn't that much bigger than 4's.
I drew
>>736685156Very nice
>>736685156nice
>>736683893Make him Papyrus
>>736681850The same niggers will also screech THEY/THEM at you for daring to call Kris a guy, if you self insert
>>736685075CH5 is the festival, dude. And she's set to be in it no matter the route (Susie says she'll take her there to spite Carol in the normal route, she chooses to go with you in the weird route)
>>736681692This is some bitchin art, what anime character is getup based on
Let's just get this out of the way:>Ralsei will have a solo boss fight in chapter 5It's all but confirmed. But what about Noelle? Here are my ideas>Noelle gets the solo fight in chapter 5 instead of Ralsei on the weird route>Noelle gets a solo fight in chapter 6, maybe not a weird route exclusive>Noelle is used up so she doesn't get her cool solo fight moment
>>736681959Kris would be a beautiful black girl if Toby wasn't a coward.
>>736684332
>>736685453Yeah, but OP was implying she'd be part of the party like in ch2, which I don't think will happen. Ch5 will probably be a Ralsei chapter
>>736685453carol isn't going to take that face down, tho. Susie will get arrested for wrecking the church
>>736685667I don't know about arrested, banned seems more appropriate. Susie has been banned from events before
>>736685512>beautiful >blackSure with how much mixed white dna?
>>736683823THis artist's Kris is straight up a fit dude though
>>736681692>Noelle wearing wearing Colombian flag as a capeThis makes the dog SEETHE
>>736686763damn, did not even notice that
>>736684594
>>736683886>>736686446dats da joke
>>736687669>The revolver's unchangedKino that you can't POSSIBLY get from an egg. Thanks, editanon.
doe smut
>>736685590>he's trying to seal the fountain?>titan spawn
>>736687737>Nat and Bash outside /trash/delete this.
>>736687869you're not my dad he's getting cucked by a skeleton
>>736685156That deer is in the rape zone
>>736685156i love your noelles mspaint boy
>>736687669Excellent
>>736685384BALD
>>736685075>What points to her being a major part in ch5? Datamined dialogue for equipment. Chapters 3, 4 and 5 were in simultaneous development so it would make sense to have some data from Chapter 5 still present in the current game.
>>736685482Brandish
>>736685384
>>736690586>Baldstrousledanke
>>736690586>Snowdin
>>736681850We don't like human dykes here, anon.I feel like janny is going to delete the thread because it has Noelle’s ass in it
>>736689975Said dialogue implies that she's going to Castle Town alone with Kris, IIRC.
>>736690521Nice, ty
>>736690814I have no clue how the game is gonna approach it actually, I'm very curious about what will happen in order to get Noelle in the party, or even get Noelle and Kris alone together again.
>>736684486I don't think he meant lolis this time.>>736685512I really can't see Kris as black. Only zfrisk works but only as tanned.
>>736689975That dialogue doesn't directly point to her playing a major role in 5. Could just as well be for when she returns in ch6/7
>>736683458You better have a source around.
>>736685156Thanks for the good OC and booba as always mspaint anon.
>>736683893Le funny face.
>>736681692Deltarune sucks lol
>>736685075Noelle has unused dialogue for every item in Chapters 3 and 4, but we don't knoe for sure that she's coming back in Chapter 5. There's a slim possibility that she isn't even coming back at all since Toby writes dialogue for even unused items. It's unlikely, though.
>>736685498Neither Ralsei or Noelle will get a solo fight, but Ralsei will get a cool new scarf like Flowey did. Gerson was the exception, we aren't getting solo fights with everyone.
>>736690814No, it only implies a section with Kris and Noelle alone. Not Castle Town itself.
>LOOK KRIS, THAT PATHETHIC FLOWER GUY IS TRYING TO STEAL TORIEL FROM THAT SKELETON DUDE
>>736683893make him Kris
>>736691549>pit hairI must have sauce, anon
>>736692307Susie knows who Asgore is though.
>>736685075Has the unused "incel face" so it is presumed she will cause the fire due to "jealousy" as predicted by Gerson. Probably when Krusie is forced onto festival.
>>736690773>ze says while posting dykeslop
>>736685075>Ch5 is at least implied to involve the festival >goes with Susie in the normal route>got mindbroken into going with kris in the weird route>krusiefags are praying for the inferno of jealousy to refer to noelle
>>736692602was she aware he was his father? He could had been mistaken for just an admirer of Toriel. Susie wasn't in Hometown for long to learn who is who.
>>736692616>”can they stop fucking staring at me”
>>736692813It would make most sense.>Noelle cause fire on Normal route because Susie is stolen>Noelle cause fire on Weird route becuase Kris is stolen
>>736692835Yes, she knows he is his father because he is the only other goat monster around and wasn't surprised in seeing him in Chapter 2.
>>736692631Thanks for pointing out the joke, but I was serious despite the irony. Humans are for (you)
>>736692616school shooter face more like it. Considering hoe unhinged some of her faces are, I woudn't be surprised if she pulled out a crazy bitch twist reveal as well a turned out to be the Knight herself instead of Dess. IN Dagnanronpa you could tell which character will become a murderer based on their sprites that lean on "crazy" rather than "comical"
>>736692813It's one of their copes. It will be funny when it goes nothing like that and Susie and Noelle simply grow closer and closer.
>>736692984For all we know there might be many dozens of Goat monster citizens around. We only see parts of Hometown and its people
>>736692935Why would Noelle cause a fire when she's associated with ice? It's obviously Asgore and anyone who says otherwise is a shipper coping.
>>736693282Susie thinks Ralsei would pass as Toriel’s cousin so I doubt there's many goat monsters around.
One must take into account that Toby wants Asgore to be a total cuck. It would make total sense for Asgore to burn his house down, then be left with no place to live, after that Sans will show up and offer him a place in his house, this will make Asgore accept his cuck status and finally give his approval to Toriel and Sans relationship. Asgore will have been thoroughly humiliated and emasculated, just like Toby wants.
>>736692523lilmoonie but it's patreon exclusive and it's not on kemono yet
>>736693494>One must take into account that Toby wants Asgore to be a total cuck.I need that image of Carol saying "NTR is the thinking woman's fetish, Toriel. That's why YOUR husband is at my house fucking MY man"
>>736693508>lilmoonieThought I recognized the style. Thanks
>>736685667The only cop left in the town is Napstablook. He ain't busting anyone.
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>>736693494I think it's very likely this will happen, Sans and Asgore will be friends, but Asgore not getting with Toriel is a good thing. He needs to fuck Mew Mew or another girl. At this point having self-respect means rejecting Toriel.
>>736690773I like them though...
>>736681692Um, can you post that?
>>736694316The story will end in Asgore/Toriel. Kris Is about uniting the family and Sans is only interested in friendship with Toriel. Togore is the only one being built upon unless Asgore will be revealed to do some fucked up shit like in Undertale
>Toby is like "I will turn her into furry and sell as my own character"
>>736694380Yeah
Unspoiler at your own peril
somehow i've never gotten a single undertale or deltarune video essay recommended to me. can i get some cringe? tranny and/or gay lisp for bonus points
>>736695082waow...
What chapter do we get to ravage his bussy?
>>736685156Nice, really nice.
>>736695713That's FemKris, there's no dick there.
>>736695959How do you know? Have you checked between the legs?
>>736694359Well, Noelle is a canon dyke and she does like Kris so I can't stop you and your imagination, fren.
>>736695409Multihourslop for the most basic theory. https://youtu.be/bSyaeIUrznQ
>>736687737...why is Kris holding a belt
>>736696042I can tell by the smell
I'm going to do some cardio on a treadmill tomorrow, and I need ONLY your strongest fanmade UT/DR songs to get me through it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5si-TMVdFI
>>736696042Yes, we can see no balls there.
>>736696348>mollystars>click play>"Hey~.... this s'Molly" in a manly voicethanks i hate it so much already
this thread was opened by a jannie, no way a furry character almost nude with a creampie pattern on her fur is still up after 4 hours.
>>736696686https://youtu.be/uYu-x_fuWlQhttps://youtu.be/O1JyH6kAqR8https://youtu.be/TtfoKaKi9P8https://youtu.be/6D1q0RY9m0Q
>>736696768Maybe he tucked his balls between his legs.You gotta get a good whiff to be sure>>736696582
>>736696937>creampie pattern on her furJesus christ you gooner, it's a white tail deer pattern.
>>736697049Well, she smells like fish.
The UT cast isn't allowed to show up in crossovers.https://x.com/NecroDancerGame/status/2042297873635610938
>>736692123Noelle does have a exclusive dialogue in Castle TownWhy would she go alone with Kris there who knows, at worst Toby is just baiting dataminers, or maybe weird route but in the new items she doesn't speak mindbronken
>>736696686https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKQ8ZrfyNlchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-tk-TiQ8qAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19HYqEEh2r0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947b6mQAP9Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwje7p6RqGw
>>736697361These were a thing since Chapter 2, but I doubt the cat cafe is going to continue in Chapter 5 so it might just be placeholder dialogue unironically.
>>736697110that's barely the same thing and you know it
>>736697329Would Deltarune's darkner characters be exempt in the same way? They're allowed for merch and plushies unlike lightners, so I'm wondering if they can be treated any different.
>>736697329Filthy gaijin are not allowed to have UT characters in their games.Only the Japanese can.
>>736697550I want /k/ to leave.
>>736697687But that's also a costume, dumbass Jap.
>>736697687You should've used the touhou collab instead since that had the actual Sans and Undyne.
>>736695551This image foreshadows how Noelle gets hypnotized and acts as the knight. Why cant she have a split personality?
>>736696937Don't worry bro it's just a reference from one of Toby's favorite vydia, also her tail does have white in her sprite
>>736693294>>736692935You assume the fire is intentional. They couldve been pissy and knocked a torch or candle over by accident, and maybe the fire is localized to Asgore's display/stuff or whatever.The jealousy could also come from like Berdly, Catti, Rudy or Carol or Toriel or Asgore, etc. Youre probably right, but Tobias e Fox loves to misdirect
>>736698509I think the fire is going to be in the Dark World, not caused in the Light World.
>>736697329For someone that tries to act like he is a "canon isn't SHIT" kind of person, Toby sure is remarkably autistic about how his OCs are portrayed.
>>736698509Also doesn't the Knight has an unused fire attack sprite
>>736696686https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1jqNxWtIKchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEOscZCE3IQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCpn9jpnb8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR8HNLxHz_4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnA9ofQ2K5c
>>736696937If you erased her thong she'd be just as nude. She's literally nude. Unacceptable.
>>736699006Im sure theres a metanarrative about how theyre just regular people in our world, so why would merch exist of "random people"? >>736698889Fair point but consider the Titan fucked up the main church hall and scattered shit everywhere. It could very well hit light world too>>736699021At the very least I am certain she will open a fountain in ch5
>>736698889I wonder though. Let's say a certain place is currently on fire (or flooded, that works too)... What would happen if someone were to open a dark fountain in there?
>>736697329Inb4 >resurrecting Smashfaggotry, but would Smash be the only kind of crossover that he would be fine with using his actual characters, even if it's just Darkners like with his autistic rules for merch?
>>736699178>Smashsans is literally just a costume there, isn't he
>>736699251You can apply that same retarded logic with having a character thats just wearing a Kris costume so its not actually Kris.
>>736699006He's fine with letting people IMAGINE whatever they want but I guess it's different when it's official work.>>736699178I feel like if Sakurai wanted Frisk or another Undertale character in Smash, Toby wouldn't refuse. Sans and Undying were in the Touhou crossover. It's about priorities.
>>736699175Probably would be like the snow place in Chapter 3 that is based around the fridge. So a water or fire land.
>>736699175>>736699435>fire>darkness
>>736681850Can someone post that homestuck meme where Derek is looking at a bunch of race swapped characters and asks "who are you people?"
>>736699251I'm aware of that, but would there be any chance of a UT/DR character becoming an actual fighter in a sixth smash game?>Toby has been a personal friend of Sakurai, and still is if that dinner pic with other Japanese devs is an indication.>Toby's also a friend of several developers/composers of Nintendo games like Shigesato Itoi (Earthbound), and Go Ichinose (Pokemon) -- even composing songs for Gen 8 and 9 Pokemon games.>He's also got a good relation with Nintendo in general to make Deltarune Chapters 3 & 4 a launch title for the Switch 2, and have the Mike minigames use Switch 2-exclusive controls for that version.>The series is very popular in Japan, and well-regarded worldwide (inb4 the spic and hue drama) as definitive Indie RPGs.
>>736699142The fire will probably affect the real world but I still see it starting by Asgore’s or Ralsei’s fire magic.
>>736697604Probably. Ralsei can probably show up in person but Deltarune crossovers are much rare in general.
>>736699142>Im sure theres a metanarrative about how theyre just regular people in our world, so why would merch exist of "random people"?I don't have an issue with him not wanting to make merch of certain characters, but I can't help but feel like this reasoning is silly to me. I'm all for suspending my disbelief and pretending the videogame characters aren't actually videogame characters but real people, but this reasoning in particular just strikes me as too much.
People actually think Noelle isn't the Knight? You are aware they both use same scream sound file?
>>736701061Undertale has merch already so it would only apply to Deltarune's lightners.
>>736685156now draw Buenos Dias Noelle
>>736694540Are you saying Toriel is supposed to be Ran? The only semblance is that they both have tabards.
>>736681692damn this op is hot as fuck…am i a furry now???
>>736698374What the fuck does that even mean
>>736701434No, you just want to fuck the furry. Being furry means you want to look like that.
On today's episode of "Twitter makes better theories than us now:"The end of the world foretold by The Prophecy is a blizzard
>>736701390I think she's directly stated to be one of Toriel’s inspirations.
>>736701434Yes but the deer is a cute furry.
>>736701668Angel Noelle winning as always. This is cool, though. Maybe the Angel's Heaven is her super special snowland.
>>736701434No, you are a HMOFA Chad. Furries are the fags who jack off to Sonic having sex with other furry characters. Liking anthro women is just what White males should be proud of.
>>736701434no, noelle is specifically designed to trigger your inner rape instincts
>>736701668It makes sense, the final area probably will be snow related, but come on, that also looks like sand
>>736701390>Motherly figure>Avatar of Toby before annoying dog was made
>>736702262HMOFA are literally furries, just in denial. You're a furry.
>>736701151Pitiful attempt, anon.
>>736702996It's truehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=566dcI9ar9A
>>736691361
>>736681692Clean up this furshit general already janny
>>736703227That's pretty funny, thanks anon.
>>736703291I would still love and fug Noelle even if she didn't have a cervine cervix
>>736703894Skill issue.
>>736701491SA goon memes were a mistake.
>>736692482
>>736681850>>736684743look. it's a nigger...Kris is a nigger...
>>736705505
>>736706124Saved. Thanks anon.
>>736683893Kris, Noelle or Dess.
>>736706202Wow I can't believe she canonically said this.
>>736681692Why is white fur so erotic
>>736692616>Noelle suppressing her urge to rape Kris in retaliation
Ch 5 seems like it'll be the act 2 closerSomething really fucked up is going to happen in it, it'll involve Asgore too.No idea what Ch 6-7 could be after.
You guys think chapter 0 will actually be a thing?
>>736683531Kris isnt a man, hes a beauitful blue boy that I want to keep in my room forever.
>>736708168>blue, pink, yellowOh, so the colors of the MAP flag
>>736709818thats what tuco says when he tries walts meth for the first time
>>736708632It's all in the prophe/ss/y
>>736710028>TIGHT, TIGHT TIGHT! Yeah,10, 9, 8 whatever just bring more cunny like that!
>>736711038>>736710028Alright I laughed you fuckers
>>736685156kris surviving only on deer milk for 30 years
>>736710673stinky and heavy...
>>736711517true
>>736710673>prophe/ss/ykek
>>736683893
>>736701668>from the top of the sky
>>736701668We're due for an Holiday Mansion Dark World anyway, unless the Hospital gets the Holiday focus due to Rudy.
>>736701668We used to make the better theories. The WAIT is hitting us hard this time.
>>736714680There are times when you pull at the threads and other times when you step back and look at the big picture
>>736714994>picAssuming Sans saw Angel!Noelle and the Cold Roaring/Blizzard in action, what kinda of psychosis would lead him to rent a house in the snow-covered area of the Underground?
>>736701434She's a diet furry. Just a girl with an odd nose shape.
>>736715101>(It's a poorly drawn picture of three smiling people.)>(Written on it...)>"don't forget."That's the psychosis. He needs as much material to remember as possible, otherwise he might just do a Kris and completely block out the memory to his detriment, so instead he swings the complete other direction, which isn't very healthy either.
>>736715101Exposure therapy.
>>736715101Well, he popped out in Snowdin and couldn't go back.
>>736715190And hoofs. And fur all over her body. And a fluffy tail.
Susiefags, explain to me what is hot about Susie.Noellefags, explain to me what is hot about Noelle.
>>736715450>>736715472https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88
>>736683893Berdly>NO>DEER>Romance
>>736715650but Berdly isn't into Noelle??? he just thought she liked him and thus didn't want to break her heart
>>736715691He's telling the player to not fugg his deerfu.Could also just be >GAMERS>ONLY>Except Kris
>>736715472>Tomboy that is just discovering feelings of love and affection>Childhood friend that you're finally reconnecting with>Big girl, strong, threatening but is actually a softie>Smarty, total dork, will do whatever - just for you>Big futa sausage on your girl-bro>Total rape-bait and a masochist
Impregnate Kris.
>>736681850 I'll buck break the nigga on the right.
>>736681850This may be a dark world but niggers aren't allowed here.
I played the weird route when chapter 2 came outthen deleted the save because i didn't want to brick my whole gamenow i don't want to do the route at all because it makes me feel bad...
>>736720194cuck
Is there anyone that can catch him?
What the FUCK
>>736702650>Motherly figureRan is a horrible mother who works for a literal child serial killer.
>>736699021>Unused fire attack
>>736706124fucking based, i just hope i dont have to use it and that chapter 5 is krusiepilled
>>736721664Anon. Toriel isn't a very good mother AND she was married to Asgore "a child a day, keeps the wife away" Dreemurr.
>>736714271
>>736715472Susie = Japanese brown soccer tomboy with actual cute personality of a dumb gym bro jock friend. It's the peak of tomboyish gamer girl everyone wantsNoelle = Classic childhood feminine friend but also written to appeal western fans. So instead japanese "little sister submissive moe blob" it's more of an actual friend you pranked as a boy who also show cute side of calling you a dog or giving you nicknames. Additionally implemented with tragic backstory too.Toby really perfected both Japanese VN waifu tropes
>>736715472Susie is utterly sincere and ride or die dumbass core. She's the girl who will, without a doubt, go with you to a hotdog eating competition. fully willingly, and try to beat your ass for fun, would go motorbiking for real and would also entirely like chilling on the couch watching bad horror movies. She appreciates your friendship in a way few ever will, and she's entirely real with you, which is rare as fuck. She will also sit on your face unprompted, suck your dick like a vacuum and pull your hair and moan your name as you eat her out and then cuddle you to death because she's just into you in a pure, whole hearted fashion and doesn't really know more besides what comes naturally.Noelle is both intelligent, smart, romantic, a complete fucking freak and also a goody two shoes at the same time. She's the kind of girl who'd listen to analog horror compilation videos after coming off Choir practice and would sperg out with you over dumb shit like radio frequency and morse code decoding for the sneaky easter eggs or secret messages and she will say she only learned it for the sake of being immersed in the ARG, while also playing flash games and having a blog. She yearns in a way that breaches the forbidden topic of male level obsessive love which can be the most romantic shit ever in existence, and she can also let her freak out and send you pics of herself with christmas stockings buck naked in her room telling you to come over at 2 am with a fat fucking bush. She will ride you like her life depends on it, write you messages with hearts on whatsapp, she will then amazon position you into a coma but next time all she wants is for you to do anal missionary while you kiss her forehead and say she's a good girl.Personally Noelle is way better, but both are incredibly high tier.
>>736720194You should play rhytm games only, cuck
>>736721664>mother of Chara in Undertale
>>736723734>>736723756The best part is that despite the incredible chemistry they both have with Kris, they will not get together with him. They will get together with each other instead. It's really funny, I wonder if Toby intended it to be this way or if it's simple coincidence.
>>736715472Usually life is a balance between spending time with your wife whome you only share sexual and family activities and your quality with friends that truly uderstand you and you have fun spending time with, Susie is the marriage of both concepts, the wife gamer girl buddy who will support you or call you a dork in compassionate way. It's perfection only possible in fiction.Noelle is the perfect realistic type of woman. Talented "class president" and nerd but also kind and submissive due to abusive upbringing or trauma. You can find girls like Noelle but it's a search for Cities of Gold trying to find Susie.
>>736703291Is that... a video game on /v/? AIEEEEEEEEEE JANNY SAMA! SAVE ME!
>>736723952Considering how much effort he put in Krusie and Kriselle development and how little in Suselle bonding I would be really surprised if he sincerely tried to make suselle canon.
>>736723952That's what's going to make or break Tobias honestly, whether he actually is retarded enough to make them end together, because Noelle and Susie are incompatible levels of opposites in reality.Susie hates dishonesty, is ride or die for Kris because they forged a real bond, is willing to go to the ends of the world to make the world itself not end and has an extreme valuation of the nature of Darkeners and more. She's an entire persona of eating stuff and having fun and being rough and wanting to escape reality with Kris.Noelle is so in denial she might as well book a permanent vacation to Egypt. She downplays Kris and their relationship, she pretends she's something she's not every day, she's endlessly lying to Susie especially so she seems less enamoured with Kris than she is, she has no real love for her besides a vague fetish level obsession with her being scary (a façade itself) and really, her real self doesn't give half a shit about Darkeners. Deep down, she's willing to get stronger, not to be a hero, but to feel stronger, actualized, more confident.Every interaction between them has been the most forced shit since Snowgrave rape, and I'm hoping this settup will be paid off when he shows off just how incompatible they really are because holy shit the domestic violence between lesbians statistic would rise with this couple.
>>736723734If Toby knew what's good for him he would make a Deltarune yuri VN.
What if Ralsei has the last shadow crystal and we have to kill him to get it
>>736708632I don't know, probably not. Maybe just as a flashback. I don't know how Toby would explain us existing in the past.
>>736711038Uoooohhhhhhh cunny!!!
>>736723952deltarune fandom is split on that topic
>>736714994Sans isn’t talking about Deltarune there, though. He literally explains in the same dialogue that he's talking about a snowstorm in Snowdin. I think the theory is solid but this isn't real evidence for it.
>>736717613This but all humans.
>>736721664It's a good thing Toriel isn't the greatest mom who was married to a child killer in Undertale, then!
>>736724284I get the feeling Susie's gonna be the one to shut it down. Love can find the girl, but that doesn't mean she has to accept it.
>>736723734Genuinely wonder how people like you will react when Deltarune clearly isn't a furry dating sim and there's more to the game other than who Kris will fuck.
>>736725523People outside of here won't complain much. People here on the other hand will go ballistic and it will be impossible to discuss Deltarune.
>>736724284Suselle is the only one of those that it's actually written as a romance. Krusie is just platonic with some ship bait and Kriselle is a doomed ship that only exists in the Weird Route.
>>736725523not people like him, but I would gladly give up all pairings I like if suselle was completely erased from the game in return
>>736688247She isn't trapped in the rape zone with Kris...Kris is trapped in the rape zone with her.
>>736725595I can't wait for all the HMOFAfags to become schizos and shit the threads in the future because their ship didn't happen even though people warned them for years at this point.
>>736725789It's inevitable. If there's any good that will come out of it is that you will at least be able to smugly say "I told you so" to them forever.
>>736723952It's probably accidental. Since those pairings aren't written as romance (except for Kriselle in the weird route) people can imagine more than what there actually is.
>>736725523But i did get my date tho? also it can be both, people are just a bit intense with romance in general>>736725635Well only in weird because Kris is preventing it, which is an interesting concept
>>736725921The Weird Route is the only hope for Kris dating someone, yeah. But even so the Weird Route isn't just about Kris dating Noelle.>>736725885Same. It's not like I want Suselle to be canon but I also don't care about shipping anymore. I wish Deltarune was like Undertale where the MC wasn't involved in romance.
>>736725091Uoooooh ToT
>>736726110Uoooohhhhhh human!!!!! Cute and funny!!!!!
>>736726054Shipping talk aside, while for sure weird route isn't just that, it's the evil route after all, it does seems that the romance could be used for evil, like how Ralsei tells Kris to not go with Noelle, maybe it could even be the meta part of dr, how much of a chud you are for doing it, bit lamer compared to ut tho
>>736726776Romance does seem to be a part of the weird route but I think it's subverting the common RPG romance. Kris is the hero knight while Noelle is a princess, they getting together is the natural order so doing that in Deltarune is a bad thing just like how grinding for levels was a bad thing in Undertale.
Weird Route Kriselle is heteronormative because Kris is the weak wife and Noelle is the strong husband.
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>>736727356Unironically true. Kris is the raped btw.
>>736725635I pity you and the media that you consume if you think suselle is the example of actual romance
>>736727881Suselle is the one written as a romance by Toby. It doesn’t mean it's good but that's clearly his intention.
>>736727735Every second the Soul is inside her is rape btw.
>>736728540to live is to rape
>>736725635Kriselle is genuinly like a greek tragedy. Even without the weird route it involves two people that clearly deeply care for each other and are effectively already soulmates.
>>736728540Kris needs to be like the better human wives and accept us as a mutual partnership.
Kris let Susie look for the guitar just so he can go talk Noelle, which is a stark contrast to normal route.
>>736729225Yeah. Kriselle is written as a doomed ship that can only exist in the tragedy of the weird route. Meanwhile Krusie is mostly platonic with some shipbait even if I like it, while Suselle is the main romance in the normal route.
>>736728045its meant as a bait, that's why he's drawing comparison to Alphyne to build up expectation that he would subvert as a twist
>>736715472submissive wacky deer that talks like a shut-in scene girl from the 2000s
>>736729909This is genuine copium.
>bro its just a brother and sister, LE SUSELLE is going to be canon insteadWhat make people think that?
>Susie and Noelle wanna fuck this
>>736730027Because it's written like that.
>>736681692Is chapter 5 still releasing this year?
>>736730027man. minikris is so fucking cool
>>736730024>Toby:OH GEE LOOK AT THAT NEW ALPHYNE YURI COUPLE, AM I RIGHT???>he actually believe it
>>736730220Probably, yes. In 3 months to 6 months. You just have to WAIT. Then WAIT 3 years for the rest of the game. Relax and keep WAITing.
>>736730119
>>73673022025th of June
>>736730119And I don't blame them, even if I'd give 'em headpats instead.
>>736730027Because this is one of the few ship bait scenes I mentioned while Krusie is platonic otherwise. >>736730317Just say we didn't warn you. Toby baiting people in the anniversary stream makes no sense.
>>736730270What’s his endgame?
>>736730487>Toby baiting people in the anniversary stream makes no sense.>nice shadow mantle bro
>>736730027People don't see the red flags coming for Noelle. At this point I wonder if Toby dreads the thermonuclear meltdown when she spills her spaghetti and Susie admits she prefers a fuzzy boy over a desperate lesbian.
>>736726054yes the weird route is about (you) dating Noelle.
>>736730493He's canonically dead.
>>736730558He literally didn't say that. He only said nice mantle. Everything else including the Jockington grows the beard was legit foreshadowing.
>>736685451buck broken blacks that give a shit about things like pronouns and being nice and affirming to LGBTQIAWASD+ folx are something else
>>736725635>>736729225>>736729697I wouldn't say that it's a doomed one yet. If it is like Undertale, the true ending of Deltarune should be a happy one where almost everyone gets their happy ending. We know that Kris is actively pushing Noelle away despite deeply caring about her (as seen on the Weird Route) for reasons not disclosed yet, and this behavior has gaslit Noelle into convincing herself that Kris never really saw her as a friend to begin with. We also know that Noelle's feelings for Susie is mostly superficial, which is why she pretty much forgot about Susie during the Weird Route when Kris started paying attention to her. The True Route is bound to have a highly emotional scene where Noelle learns the truth behind why Kris is pushing her away and realizes how much Kris actually cares about her, so who knows, perhaps it could led to further development of their relationship.Yeah, I am on full copium, but I am betting on Kriselle for the True Route and I am fully prepared to be BTFO by Toby.
>>736725635it's doomed only because Noelle and (you) are the actual couple. Kris is just the meat bag
>>736681850>Raceswapped KrisToby would support this
>>736730119I want her.
>>736726776>>736727183I've been warning people for years how "romancing video game characters is bad" will be the "message" of the weird route, topped with feminist and queer subtext.I get called a faggot, but I'll be the one to say "I fucking told you" in the end of this bullshit.
>>736729225Noelle is (you)r soulmate.
>>736730807The message of the Weird Route is "How far will you go to become the protagonist?" Also it will end with hyper realistic blood.
>>736730427This would BREAK the fandom.
>>736730807I see more along the lines of Kris is getting exactly what they fucking wished for.
>>736730740>>736685512
>>736730487>krusie is platonic Yeah a guy usually think this about a platonic friend
>>736725523the most important thing in this game is when Kris and the player finally get to right each other. if Toby nails that the shipping won't matter
>>736730942Yes that is something that can be perfectly platonic. If you can't see it that's on you.
>>736730667I feel like this might happen but with Kris and Noelle accepting their time has passed and they can't live in the past and move on to new people (that being Susie). A big thing in this game is moving on from the past and Kriselle is the past personified.
>>736730776That's a pretty cute FemKris desu.
Suselle feels bad for majority people because it feels like 90% of it copium over Dess and own inferiority complex, rather than genuine bonding like Kris has with Susie. Noelle doesn't understand the concept of eating off the ground or eating trash from dirty pockets. Her admiration of Susie comes from own personal issues. This just isn't love, it's attraction only.
>>736715472>Noellefags, explain to me what is hot about Noelle.Deerussy
>>736730740You are pro racism and police brutality? Would you love the idea of big burly Black cops beating the shit out of white gamer for wearing maga hat?
>>736731213Toby didn’t think of any of that and just wanted to write a dorky lesbian romance kek
>>736731286I would let Fem Black Kris beat the shit out of me.
>>736730807I think it will just be a subversion of regular JPRGs having the protagonist dating everyone rather than it being bad like how genocide was a subversion of grinding. Berdly also mocks that idea when he wants to date every girl + Kris, which is why I really don't see Toby doing that but for Kris.
>>736731108This makes sense and goes in line with the whole team of snow and ice. Freezing is a good way of preserving a lot of things.
>Alphys, the original genderbent self insertion of Toby is openly shipping Krusie and telling Kris to go for it>NOOO THATS JUST A JOKE, TOBY HATES SHIPPING AND HE ADDED OPENED SODA AND MINIKRIS AND APPLE SHAMPOO FANSERVICE TO SHIT ON SHIPPING TOOO
>>736730942Yeah, that can be pretty platonic. Krusie has shipbait scenes but that one can easily be read as just strong friends.>>736731213You can say Susie is replacing important people for both Kris and Noelle. She literally wears Asriel’s clothes and sits on his seat in the dinner. Susie is the new gal filling the hole in both Kris and Noelle.
>>736731108Kriselle's entire thing is moving beyond the past to *reconnect*, not to seperate. The old past was what divided them, the passage of time and events are erasing what happened before and reconnecting them in the present. It's to the point Noelle is deeply glad he's coming out of his shell and becoming a more active person interacting with the world a ton more.
>>736730942Krusie COULD be intepreted as sibling coded, which is what many susellefags do. However it can't be the only intention as there's plenty of romantic optional scenes that would make it ICKY like Alphys seeing it as romantic. Which would be like if George Lucas intentionally made Luke and Leia kiss already knowing that they are siblings.
>>736681692Noelle teen pregnancy chapter theory
>>736731565yeah that would be pretty crazy wouldn't it
I know why noelle is super retarded and completely ignores Catti despite being almost everything she wants.I want to know why all the yuri addicts in the fandom ignore Cattelle and call any opponents of Suselle to be queer erasure.
>>736731402>is openly shipping Krusie and telling Kris to go for itwhen does that happen in game?
>>736731402Alphys doesn't openly ship Krusie, she just jokes about it sometimes. She's not actively playing matchmaker in every scene.>>736731501Yeah, but I feel like they can reconnect by restoring their friendship and not necessarily bring a couple. That part of them is the past they need to move on. But hey, if Krusie and Kriselle happen I would be glad.
>>736731602Humans and deer can’t reproduce
>>736731501This. Theur chapter 2 segment stregthens this, and the chapter 4 segment in dess's room cements it.
>>736731565Why do you act like Toby isn't a based incestchad? Dude is a freak.
>>736731468>You can say Susie is replacing important people for both Kris and Noelle. She literally wears Asriel’s clothes and sits on his seat in the dinner. Susie is the new gal filling the hole in both Kris and Noelle.A lot of people ignore this, if we also think about the whole theme of moving beyond the past, Susie effectively represents the future, it's the character that shows there is good in meeting new people and making new friends and such. Of course if we assume Suselle at the same time then we get into the issue of Noelle "moving on" means getting into a relationship with a stand-in of her missing big sister, which is a bit strange.
Also totally platonic
I feel like all these theories that are trying to disprove Suselle are gonna cause people to end up crying about Toby not only betraying his audience, but also betraying the story itself once Suselle is finally revealed to be happening.
>>736731468So the main couple is either Kriselle with Susie as some kind of Robin Williams character fixing their relationshipOR Krusielle polycule is the answer. Either way Suselle would be just going on a single way and left out Kris on the empty field like Krusie does with Noelle
>>736731768Yeah, this doesn't need to be romantic. It's not like anybody said Krusie doesn't havr shipbait.
>>736731768Friends can make you feel like this, ya know.
>>736731768have you never had platonic close female friends anon? this is normal especially for someone in a stressful situation with the equivalent of a god in their chest
>>736731768Anon I understand you never had any friends or anyone who you have truly felt close with, but, feeling reassured because you know you have a good friend who you can rely on and will always have your back is a completely normal thing that people feel, and it doesn't need to have any romantic connotations.
>>736731750>the issue of Noelle "moving on" means getting into a relationship with a stand-in of her missing big sister, which is a bit strange.I think Toby will have Susie obviously be her own person that is similar to Dess but still Susie. Plus it isn't strange for people to date others that are similar to loved ones. Maybe Noelle has a sister complex and Toby doesn't care about it as he isn't a pureteen.
staring yearningly at your platonic friend
>>736731649this would age terribly badly if Krusie became a sibling or Toriel adopted Susie
>>736731845It's not like Kris needs to fuck someone, plus he's also shipbaited with Ralsei or Berdly which people mostly ignore here because it isn't HMOFA bait.
>>736732053does this actually happen in game? I thought it was an edit
>>736731402alphys is cringe so that doesn't count
ffuuuck bros..... i need a susie gf so bad
>>736732053Considering she’s a anime fag, would she really be against incest?
>>736732097Yes this actually legit happened.
>>736730493being the best vessel in the game>>736730598not in my playthrough
>>736731670Monster and humans can have babies, just have some IMAGINATION.
>>736730220>>736730427It'll release on the same day as GTA VI and steal part of it's thunder, mark my words.
>>736732053Why are you acting as if Alphys would be against step-incest?>>736732248Mini Kris and all the game characters die after mantle, that's why all the screens are off.
>>736731768I'm a krusiefags, but this and dinner and susie star scene doesn't need to be romantic, but can be just a deep platonic and siblingcoded interaction.Minikris, Susie's obsession with apples, opened soda indirect kiss, plushie gifting and asking for Ferris wheel ARE more romantic oriented, especially if Rudy and Alphys also frame Kris companion as the romantic one too
>>736732408Yeah, nobody is denying Krusie doesn't have any shipbait moments.
>>736732097>Tourists will claim Suselle happening for sure
>>736732191Those uniforms are really cute, Alphys has good taste. She's not cringe for this.
>>736732191People can laugh at her, but she's the personification of Toby and HIS cringe
Speaking of MiniKris, I'm surprised so many people got the Susie scene with it, I only got the scene where MiniKris approaches Kris alone and swings his sword, making Kris fall backwards. Can you get both of them or is it only one or the other?
>>736732673you can get both
>>736732205The problem is narration creates Krusie romance as possibility. Kris and Berdly are for example treated as something bad or a joke. Alphys, Toriel, Diner owner and Rudy feels as if Susie was pushed toward the player as either sister or girlfriend character
>>736730915uhm, do you remember what happened to Conker's GF in that game?
>>736732673You can't get the mantle without also having an option to do Susie scene. You just need to use arrow keys to move him into the screen and attack Susie
>>736732797This is why Krusie is for life. She doesn't mind dick smaller than her pinky coming from a tiny white boy. She's a real one
>>736732692>>736732881I guess I'll simply go on without getting that one then, there is absolutely no fucking way I'm gonna replay Chapter 3 again on Pacifist. I'm already dreading doing it again for the perfect Weird Route savefile. It's not even the Knight that's the issue, it's the fucking cooking and rhythm game minigames, I suck so much at them that I need to grind a ton of points on the Mantle game board to make up for my low score.
>>736731670>eat human food>talk human language>wear human clothing>shit on human toilet>do human work>follow human law>has functional human genitalia>"NNNNNNNNNNNNNOoooooooooooOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO y-you see monsters are m-m-m-m-m-made of magic and stuff they c-c-c-c-can't procreate with h-h-h-h">monsters are unironically seen absorbing human souls>monsters and humans regularly bond since times long pastI'm not falling for this digimon bullshit gaslighting. I know how fantasy demihumans work. those eggs are open for business, stop flipping the sign
>>736733024Do you see any human monster hybrids walking around
>>736733012Pic related. Why is this cuckold of a fucking game dev the only guy to understand childhood friendship and seperation, of course it had to be the dude with broken fucking hands and tumblr and homestuck upbringing in an episcopalian lesbo 2 mom childhood.
>>736733121Kris is in a purely monster community
>>736710673When dealing with Holiday women it's rape or be raped
>>736732797>>736732938Kill yourselves.
>>736681850Sexooo
>>736732673I don't think so, you lose control of mini Kris once you stab Susie. Don't feel bad, I didn't even know mini Kris could return to the screen once he leaves
>>736733005are you paralysed or something? I literally max scored them on my second playthrough after realising the points matter for the bonus level doors
>>736733121Dess is a human deer hybrid. it's why she likes kris so much and how she's so strong and has a henshin formCarol cheated on Rudy theory.
>>736733370why do you guys want to fuck rudy's life so bad
>>736733324No, I'm just terrible at them, especially the rhythm game on, I'm extremely bad at rhythm games in general.
>>736733153these does man. the Holiday family their cuteness is too much
>>736732717Toby is an incest chad, literally had Chara quote this pseudo incest quote. He doesn't care.
>tfw no Dino gfWhy live
>>736733370leave Rudy our of this you sicko. it's our mission to protect the holidays...even if Carol is trying to use me like a tool and dess/ the knight is trying to kill (you)
>>736733024Hybrids only exist in IMAGINATION land. But I'm surprised the anniversary stream only confirmed human x monster couples existed but not children. I guess it could fuck with Undertale's lore if hybrids exist because we don't know how strong their souls would be.
>>736733370I wonder if being a hybrid would bypass Toby's human autism, but this is still impossible as Dess also existed in Undertale. >>736733387>>736733536Rudy could also been the one to cheat on her if Dess is supposed to look like him.
>>736733420You can buy your way to a higher ranking, there's a Pippins who sells that.
>>736733490a year ago i dated a girl for like 6 months that reminded me of susie. nothing has fucked me up more than when she broke up with me
I don't know why Krusiefags put so much weight on optional scenes/dialogue. Do they genuinely think their choices will make a difference?
>>736733420Like that other anon said you technically just focus on getting 1500 points to go the S rank room, or try getting a Z rank.
>>736734335Yeah I think the optional Susie scenes are overblown, the only thing I can truly see affecting the story in a significant matter is recruiting everyone and getting all the shadow crystals, the eggs will probably result in a significant easter egg(heh) but nothing that will actually change the story considerably. But I simply cannot see the optional Susie scenes changing such an important plot point as Susie ending up in a romantic relationship with Kris or not.
>>736734335I think Deltarune fans in general care about optional scenes way too much.
How do you think the weird route will end?
>>736734928Well it won't be a happy ending, that much I am sure of.
>>736734928Murder suicide.
>>736734928The right way.
>>736734928In the end, our choices don't matter.The outcome will be the same as the regular one, but the context will be different.
>>736734928Chara thanks us for another fun adventure and ends this world too.
>>736734928You kill Gaster and the game is permanently frozen once the creator is dead. You got your freedom at the cost of everything.
>>736734928until toby shows the player and Noelle doing something irredeemably evil I think it won't be that bad. just an alternate path
>>736734261it would be better to die than lose Susie, why did you broke up?
>>736735094told your choices don't matter by one character even though the game constantly disproves that. Okokok
>>736735257Toby Fox himself told me there was only one ending.
noelle and susie have minimal interactions outside of their "shipping moments" and then they can be easily skipped/don't exist in the WR. kris and susie meanwhile have a lot stronger chemistry and notable scenes but most of them are completely optional and you have to go out of your way to see them. you want to know who susie DOES have a lot of unskippable, major, character defining moments with
>all this talk about the susiebowlI just want to Save the World, bros. Who cares sleeps with who after I'm gone.
>>736735253she said she couldnt be with someone who was racist. my autistic ass would parrot cumtown jokes all the time.
>>736735362I still subscribe to the yurifag gaster theory for why susie and noelle feels so forced (it is absolute cope but I will run with it until proven wrong)
>>736735553Kris would just rope if Suselle happened. He wouldn’t bother moving
>>736735546Gaster is not a yurifag. He's a cunnyfag according to the older fandom and that's the way it will be.
>>736735660I don't think an yuri will happen but I wonder who will kick off the inferno for chapter 5
>>736735362I have been a nooticer since ch1. The other ships pale in comparison to the amount of scenes these two share, both mandatory and optional.
>>736735257The game hasn't really disproven it in a meaningful way. In the end, after all, the Fountain is always sealed. Could I be wrong? Of course I could. But it's what I think will happen, even if I'm still looking forward to seeing how it goes.
>>736735540then she wasn't the real Suz, just some antifa punk girl
>>736735923
>>736735923Krix X NoelleSusie X RalseiProve, me, wrong.
>>736735160That would be an extremely hacky ending but at least the meltdowns would be funny.
>>736736024Susie would be against racism though since she was a violent minority herself in her hometown.
>>736736123Imagine getting cucked by a object
>>736736147I can't. It's the best case scenario
>>736683893this but with kris
>>736735819Why is everyone so certain the inferno will happen when Gerson's descriptions of prior chapters were largely incorrect?
>>736736331imagine getting cucked by a floating heart. Kris is in a bad way.
>>736735819It will be Ralsei or Asgore. Every other option is a meme.
>>736736658Ch.1 dragon - Susie gets tamed.Ch.2 the heroes ride chariots and save the queen - roller coaster and queen is saved from her delusions. ch 3. The heroes see a lost land. Lost land is the glacierCh.4 the heroes meet a blacksmith who gives the heroes a terrible weapon. The blacksmith is gerson who gives the justice axe or more importantly hope for the ending and changing it. Aside from personal interpretation where has gerson been wrong
>>736734928mindbroken Noelle jumps out of the game and rapes (you)
>>736736227nothing to suggest she give a shit about minorities if she already bullied the weak and stole shit from harmless italian spin cake Chefs
Reminder that there is no platonic explanation for this.
>>736731330Toby is weird about his weebness.Dating Sims and all that slice of life imagery are some of the most fundamental elements of otaku culture, yet he keeps going out of his way to mock it, from Papyrus, Alphys to Berdly, the weird route and even that new Mettaton segment in the anniversary stream.
>>736737140Susie is clearly changed and now she is protecting the darkners despite Ralsei being self-hating.
>>736735819Mike
>>736737171i got you. Noelle is a sperg and doesn't understand boundaries very well
>>736737171Noelle absolutely loves Kris in the weird route.
what location could possibly fit the chapter 5 prophecy besides the flower shop or the festival?
>>736737730There's none unless Asgore brings his flowers to whatever place the fountain is made.
>>736737875tricky tony does it again
>>736737661id be likely to agree with you until this scene happened.
>>736738089Noelle loves us both.
>>736738392darn you anon being all sensible...that's an idea I can get behind
>>736738089Do you wanna know what cemented Noelle as absolute best girl to me? She saw the cold come in, the sheer energy coming from (You), the fact it ain't Kris. The thing that "made her do it" inside her dream. It fucking reads her mind. Three times in a row. She prods this entity, twice more after it. And she keeps talking to it, exploring it.Noelle is so fascinated by (You) that even as you reveal truths she hates, she stays there. She talks to (You), she argues. She tries to defuse, to ignore it's (You) by appealing to Kris, she rambles but she fucking smiles as We take her hand. We stab the thorn.And then, she, knowing it's Us there, knowing it's the voice from her dream, Carol says she can't wait to go to the Festival with Us. Noelle loves the (You) that pushed the thorn in deep down, otherwise, she would not have told us she wanted to come.
>>736738671geez Louise anon do you write? that's very well constructed and explanation for delivers such as myself
>>736728657I said nothing about about politics you retard. You're projecting by reading what I said and immediately jumping to "politics" and "riots".>>736728690You only need to take on look at these threads to see how "relaxed" people get. Hell you only need to look at the conversation we're having right now.
>>736737640What is her major malfunction?
>>736738671>she fucking smiles as We take her handI thought this was her giving Kris one last benefit of the doubt before we ruin it all
I wish people gooned to darkner girls other than TM more often TM could get more porn herself too
>>736739764People just care about furries or humans, people don't really like fucking object people.
>>736738882On occasion. I usually just edit instead these days.>>736739668Think about what I just said. The room turned cold as ice, her thoughts were thread thrice, we answered her, we repeated it back, and she stayed. Deep down, and hell, even on a surface level, she knew Kris was not there. There was only (You), the mind reader, the voice from her "dreams", the person who she very clearly liked following the advice of and went along with the plan. The Entity that made it snow.She knew there was no Kris anymore. Even in the strongest denial, she knew this was a different voice, doing different things, and she stayed because she was curious. Afraid, but curious.
>>736738671This is why doebros stay winning. We'll said, anon.
>>736734928Noelle "freezing" the game.Come on, it's right there.
>>736739764Elnina is so cute, but it does seems darkners being only objects affects their popularitythe fujos however..
>>736739657she's a teenage girl anon
>>736740927Zamn!
>>736733146toby had two moms?
>>736739764>>736740802can you impregnate darkners?
>>736740927..OUT OF [10]
>>736741834The general idea of darkners is basically playing pretend, so i think if you imagine an object pregnant, they could beYES, this would mean your cum sock being a milf could be a thing
>>736739657Does this line happen in both the regular and weird route about personal space?
>>736741834No. They're objects. They can't.
>>736742581Less dialogue in weird route, instead she says she is glad that Kris is looking for her
>>736681692Made for BWC
>>736739657
>>736725181>Sans isn’t talking about Deltarune there, though. He literally explains in the same dialogue that he's talking about a snowstorm in Snowdin.A character, especially one like Sans, can be talking about one thing while they're actually alluding to something else.That same dialogue specifically references Noelle and Dess, it's foreshadowing Deltarune one way or another and it's absolutely worth considering in this context.
>>736681895kris in the dark world is the brandish boy
>>736733024>has functional human genitalia....anon? How do you know that?
>>736685498Bold and naive of you to believe Noelle will be alive after chapter 5 in the weird route. The backroom games in Ch3 made this clear enough.Once we acquire what we needed her for, she no longer serves a purpose.And what line comes shortly after picrel? YOU WERE USED UP
>>736743680That's actually extremely fair. Alright, you convinced me. He could be alluding to the Angel's Heaven which is some snow paradise made by Noelle. I do wonder when Noelle will be doing all that, though.
snoot game is better, not so full of fucking homos and trannies
>>736744216Fair but dr has a special kind of evil that you don't see in many games, it's not just fuck the deer
>>736685498>It's all but confirmed.Is it? I don't know of any hint towards this except that there's been solo boss fight for the other two members now so there might be one for Ralsei to cover all the bases.
>>736744529There hasn't been an actual solo fight for Kris, either. Snowgrave Spamton is an extra, not something that happens every route like Gerson. He's the exception.
>>736744728Spamton's first encounter is basically a miniboss and that was Kris solo. Still when it comes to the topic of the game covering all the bases any possible fight in any possible route would count.
>>736744839Using this logic Ralsei can simply have a solo fight against any enemy, not just the secret boss.
>>736744728mantle
>>736745061Sure, still would be one more Ralsei solo fight than we've had so far. But again, even Snowgrave Spamton basically counts here so sure, why not a secret boss.
>>736745123That's our solo battle.
>>736744216I thought Snoot Game was just a fangame for that one Wani vn
>>736745420Nu uh. ERAM goes out of its way to taunt Kris himself specifically.
>>736745874Yes but miniKris fights it and that's literally us.
>>736745928kris still has his dark determination moment regardless, so
>>736746040Still isn't like Susie’s fight against Gerson. I still think she was just an exception but we will see in a few months.
>>736744216Its pretty much Kris and Susie. There's even the meme about her wagging her tail.
>>736744216Deltarune is better because it's more than a furry dating sim.
>>736744216brother the main plot of the game is detrooning a dinosaur
>>736746660im talking about wani too
>>736744138likely when she realizes her power when she's at her lowest
>>736747281Probably once Rudy dies, then. That or Susie rejects her and everything in her life goes to shit.
>>736747563i can see both happening within a very short time span in ch5
>>736747746That and whatever the Knight is and whatever her mother does in that Chapter. I expect a meltdown.
>>736748218Can't say I'd blame Noelle for crashing out. It must suck finding out your family and childhood best friend were conspiring right behind your back.
>>736748698Yeah, people talk about a Susie crash out but she's going to crash out too
>>736749248>finally make some friends>both are traitors and were lying to you the entire time Poor dino
>>736749350So far Ralsei doesn't seem to be a traitor or on team Knight.
>>736749248everyone is going to snap in ch5, this has been building up since ch2
>>736749419ralsei is on team anti-prophecy he is also on team susie, even if he's keeping things from her in a misguided attempt to keep her happy considering that susie also is against the prophecy at the end of ch4, it's probably safe to say the two of them can trust each other without any secret motive potentially causing problems unless of course, the little blurb about scarf_hero protecting sword_hero at all costs overrides that
>>736749248Grim. Surely Catti will take him back at the end of this?
>>736749420>Kris crashes out when Carol/The Knight/whoever the fuck takes it too far>Susie crashes out when Kris is revealed to be a FUCKING TRAITOR>Ralsei crashes out because everything is fucked>Noelle crashes out because of too many things>Carol crashes out because her one chance at saving her daughter is ruined>Asgore crashes out because he'll never do the right thing and make Toriel forgive him>Rouxls crashes out because Kris is already The Roaring Knight's second-hand>Gaster just snorts another line of coke and asks if you're enjoying HIS DELTARUNE
>>736749420Nah, 5's going to be a morale boosting chapter for the most part. We just ended 4 on an emotional low, you can't keep kicking the characters down for another 3 chapters straight, it would lose all meaning. You gotta give them some hope before everything comes crashing down towards the end.
>>736749419He 100% knows about Kris’ situation and has hid that from Susie
>>736749674A crashout doesn't mean no hope necessarily. It can just be that the characters are going to find out more than they know and fight against it. They can easily regroup stronger once they find out Kris is a traitor or whatever. Maybe the chapter can end with an actual plan against the Knight.
>>736749674Personally, I think 5 will not front load its drama and misery, there will be some of it, but overall the tone will be relatively upbeat for the most part, and I believe this will be done on purpose to lure the player into a false sense of security, but, at the end of the chapters, things will come crashing down again, and they will probably come crashing down way harder than before.
>>736749705Yeah, but he doesn't seem to be a traitor. I agree with this anon here >>736749561. I think he's only a traitor if his "serve Kris" protocols override him.
>>736720194Noelle likes it
>>736749674>Nah, 5's going to be a morale boosting chapter for the most partIt's certainly going to be morale boosting for me.
>>736749674end of chapter 5 is end of act 2 so naturally will be the low point you degenerate mongoloid basedjakfag
>>736681692anon from last night who requested thisBASED?!?!?!?!!
>>736750009I'm not sure the gang can handle any more big blows rn. Ralsei is just about ready to kill himself, Susie despite her stoic appearance, is probably not doing too hot considering her little adventure just upped the stakes, as well as Ralsei withholding info from her, and Kris is likely not too far off from snapping. Revealing Kris' treachery in 5 seems a bit premature since we basically just found out about it. That's probably going to be a ch6/7 plot point.
>>736751106We found about Kris's evil antics in Chapter 3, technically, but I don't think 5 will be pure doom and gloom. I think most of it will be more lighthearted with the goofy festival and flowers, it's only at the end that shit will go doom, and it won't necessarily be a sad thing but more of a "shit is happening" like the Knight showing up in Chapter 3.
>>736751106think about it like this. if Kris's traitor reveal doesn't happen in chapter 5 it'll have to happen in chapter 6 meaning we only have chapter 7 to deal with the fallout and consequences leaving 7 loaded with too much stuff to handle aside from whatever the main threat is. if it happens in chapter 5 even at the tail end we can spend all of chapter 6 helping Susie get back on her feet and preparing for the reconciliation in 7 then easily get to the epilogue
>>736751931I don't really expect the cast to come together at the end and triumph. I'd say the gang will dissolve by the end, with each character attempting to prevent the prophecy their own way. Ch5 server to give false hope while 6 and 7 bombard you and the party with all the bad stuff.
>>736752342I think Kris is the only party member who will leave the party. Susie and Ralsei are probably sticking together.
Do you guys think you could get Noelle to cum just from her antlers if you spent a few months training her, y'know rubbing the base of her antlers at the same pace and pressure as the vibrator on her clit while she's tied up so the stimulation gets mixed together, pulling a little harder each time she cums. Eventually you'd get to the point where she'd whimper and lose her step just by scritching her head walking down the street. Just a thought haha
>>736752342by that point (you) and Kris need to be separated, the vessel reunited with, and the knight shenanigans need to be in full swing. chapter 5 can be so good if we just get a few answers and the plot finally rolling to the end point
>>736752424Ralsei is marked for death. He'll probably end up giving away his life at some point in the future, distancing himself from Susie to spare her the grief.
>>736752603I'd love to ditch Kris and get a proper vessel but I'm not too optimistic about it happening. Got a feeling we'll be stuck with him till the end.
Chapter 5 never. We are all doomed to WAIT.
>>736752973Deltarune will be SHIT if we don't get a 1v1 mirror match against Kris.
>>736752973I love my previous human wives too but I'm almost certain we're switching vessels in Deltarune. Either we play as our Vessel or Susie/Noelle. We're not stuck with Kris.
>>736735546>kris isn't non-binary due to being "the true second hero" or whatever but because he discovered his world is ran by an autistic yuritard and he wants to get laid.
>>736752973that's why I say chapter 5 has a lot of work to do. i magine Kris and Carol using or just trying to push us where they need us to be but Kris has been so adamant about not letting us know their plan. plus the game's about freedom. Seems silly to not let the player be free of their cage
Susie chasing Kris just like Naruto and Sausage plot
>>736753170this. I've been needing a human v human fight since the end of unbertale's genocide run
>>736753284But what's Kris going to do without the SOUL. Even if he's able to survive being soulless, he can't go to the dark world without it. The plot would have to pull an extra one out of its ass for him
>>736753604Kris could be turned into some sort of proto-Knight monster by being soulless in the Dark World or get his actual soul back. There's a lot of ways Toby could do this desu.
>>736753604Easy, just make that the Knight has Kris soul, Kris takes it back
>>736753913>>736753984Ngl, I hate this multiple human souls thing. It makes things needlessly convoluted, and I have zero faith in Toby properly explaining it
>>736753604either Kris's soul is somewhere else and the roaring conspiracy had it ready to go in case the player goes rogue or they'll die. not my problem
>>736754224there only needs to be two human souls. Our's and kris's. unless Kris is faking being a zombie without us in then they should just die. Souls are life force after all so it has to be somewhere because it sure as heck isn't in then ieth us.
>>736754467The problem is, "our soul" isn't ours. We were just injected into it, somehow.Kris has been abusing the soul since before we became a variable, because the cage has been battered and bloodstained since before chapter one.
>>736754224It could be that we're just controlling Kris's soul, but this whole soul thing is just weird. Kris in general is weird for a human.
>>736754467The player is technically not the soul if UT is anything to go by. That would mean that Gaster just has a random human soul on standby for us to take control. I can think of one potentially unaccounted for soul but it's too schizo to actually be it.That would also mean Kris was just stroling around soulless for a while without any problems.
>>736754224If there are more souls, like how Carol knows about it sure, it can get really confusing, but i think Knight soul possesion is a good explanation, Kris soul is keeping alive ''Dess'' plus the amalgam stuffOr maybe the Catti subplot is not a joke and Kris did sell his soul to the devil (you)
>>736754558the idea that Kris has been possessed by others than the player or abusing their own soul is way more farfetched than that just being the player's connection to the world
>>736754741that's why there's a difference in wording during deltarune and undertale's intro we're specifically asked for our name and connected on the very first sequence
>>736754608That's what I was thinking, but it implies that Gaster was attempting to steal his soul and replace him with the vessel but in the intro he also says Kris is special/we are going to meet him if you input his name.
