Marathon hasn't even made back a quarter of its budgethttps://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/04/09/checking-in-on-marathon-a-month-after-launch/
>>736687839KWAB
>>736687839>On Bungie’s end, there is less panic than when the game was flailing with multiple controversies last summer. They are mostly heads-down, working on new content, and whatever the case may be, this is not a game that is about to face some sort of imminent shutdown. And these days, that’s enough to qualify as a win.Article says the exact opposite but okay
>>736687839blast havers...LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!
>>736688110SAAAAAAR
Marathon officially going EoS soon. Allegedly.
>>736687839Did you do your part in this fight, anon?Because I did nothing but somehow it made all the difference in the world.
>>736688110Bungie doesn't shut themselves down, they are the the devs. They just wait like prisoners on death row until Herman Hulst walks in like the grim reaper and axes 3/4 of the studio with a smile.
>>736687839The steam forums have literally no discussion about the game. It's just constant shitflinging. I give it 6 months to server shutdown
>>736688283They should hand the game to more competent developers then. Keep the lore writers and music composers at least. Ziegler better be fucking blacklisted.
>>736688282idk I said it looks like crap a few timesguess my chud opinion somehow mind controlled some normies into not buying it
>>736688110You lost chud, don't you get it!
>>736687839but genuinely, what went wrong?it's not a bad game, nor is it an unfun gameit's not a "woke" game for the retards that care about thatis it just because it's an extraction shooter? but then ARC raiders is popular, and tarkov, hunt etc all have stable playerbases?genuinely, what exactly is the issue?
>>736687839Marathoff
>>736687839>includes tags you've filtered out>LGBTQ+lol what?
>>736688481
>>736688481>genuinely, what exactly is the issue?Marketing. Completely fucking terrible marketing, they got embroiled in a plagiarism standard and got absolutely nothing to signal that it was resolved and the game exists and you should play it. Their marketing campaign was fucking bribing streamers, when their audience was already primed to shit on it without even a thought.>>736688481>it's not a bad game, nor is it an unfun gameIt is fun and could be excellent but it has blatant issues, lack of content, weird balance, annoying UI, it feels like a beta pushed to release, and Bungie don't seem like they have a plan on what to do, they're just throwing shit at the wall.That pivot they did some months ago after hiring that Valorant mongoloid fucked them.
Every time I open /v/ i see thisWhy do you care so much
>>736688481Unironically too hard for the average player.It's a niche, uber hardcore game on a AAAslop budget.
>>736688649but the marketing campaign had some really good trailers, including the excellent cinematic
>>736688579epically funny trolling from underage culture war tards, steam tags are voted on by anyone, and bungie hasn't been arsed to fix it
>>736688481It’s a game made by queers and sissies for queers and sissies.
i hate bungie and want them to fail
>>736688739And very few people saw them, they don't have high view counts at all. They weren't pushed enough, probably because they didn't have a concrete release date.In this world you can't just make something good and release it into the currents and pray it gets noticed, especially for a game this expensive, you have to manufacture momentum and they didn't.Also the characters from the trailers aren't even in the game anymore after they changed the premise.
>>736687839They haven't even sold a million copies otherwise they'd be gloating about it on twitter
>>736688357The amount of effort put into those things is completely incongruent with an PvP only game. They surely meant for Marathon to be something else, and going back to whatever that was is the only way forward.
>>736688110>the bar of quality is so low that if a game doesn't shut down within a month it's considered good.
>>736688823it's the white man's game as it requires you to read
Who cares? Cryo is back and I’m going to queue up.
>>736687839I still don't understand why it's so important if this game sells or flops. It seems utterly unremarkable in every way.
>>736689027nah you're gonna reply to me you little faggot
>>736688905Basically it's a game of narratives, that's how all marketing is, narrative construction.Marathon was caught in a perfect storm where a ton of simultaneous narratives rose up against it>game copied art, instant controversy>muh concord comparison because Sony>released close to Arc Raiders, instant comparisons>released after Destiny 2 was soft sunsetted so the entire ecosystem of Destiny players and ecelebs are against it from the start>new narrative, it didn't sell well, low population, so even people who are interested won't buy it and risk not getting value out of itand Bungie didn't countersignal it enough with their own, when a game becomes "cool to hate" and a "meme" for people that don't play it, you're fucked. The actual game content doesn't matter at all for that.
>>736689053The anti-woke grifters have decided to call this game "woke"
>>736688481So many different things>shat on the legacy of the original IP, alienating the old fanbase>sacrificed Destiny 2, alienating and embittering Bungie's current fanbase>multiple firings of higher ranking creative roles during dev period>blatant, high-profile plagiarism of the entire artstyle>target audience is exclusively turbosweats, so a small portion of an already niche and widely loathed genre>doubling down on exclusitivity with Ranked and Cryo archive >flipflopping on balance changes that harm the casual user and cater even more to "hardcore" extract gamers and streamers>hero shooter characters with little to no customization beyond premade skins>releasing after ARC Raiders and Tarkov already had a stranglehold on the wider playerbaseI cant think of a single thing that went right with this release
>>736689120What makes it woke, though? The art style? The studio that made it?
>>736689089Only until the queue gets me into a match babe
>>736688481>Tarkov and Hunt had almost a decade to sink into their place, being the first and most notable of the genre>ARC is a hugbox for people who sperg out at the idea of pvpMarathon simply took too long to release, they rebooted it a handful of times, and basically got the final product out the window in 5 months after the test in late 2024 was a PR disaster. Also because ARC is now the extraction poster child, people do not want to engage in pvp of any sort and Marathon does push pvp more than something like Hunt or ARC.People also have had a huge bone to pick with Bungie since 2020 because of removing Y1 of Destiny 2. Even if it was a piece of shit 3/10 experience they will never not be mad at the concept of it happening and it's an easy way to move others by mentioning a piece of the game being removed, so that's why even if Marathon wasn't an extraction shooter people would still be mad. Also the art stealing controversy for Marathon didn't help, even if they got the art director fired and redid everything.
>>736687839>Marathon might end with a 20k peak tonight >10k down from Monday >Wich was already 5k down from last weekend Place your bets blast haversSub 1000 by next month?
>>736689165>shat on the legacy of the original IP, alienating the old fanbaseI'm one of the five people on /v/ that actually played the Marathon trilogy on Aleph One and that's not true at all. It ignores Infinity which makes sense, but as a continuation of 1 and soft reboot of 2 it's pretty cool.
>>736688481bad opticand bad reputationbungie really fuck up their name, big time.the shitty and greedy mismanagement of destiny left most of their fans in bad tastepeoples just hate themand that shit is importantpeople love TODD and thats why he can sold his dog shit shitfield for millions of copies
>>736689225Trans@Bungie, Latina/e/o/x@Bungie would never make a woke game. They will never have you express support for BLM by pressing a button before booting your game. They’d never do that. Bungie aren’t woke.
>>736688481People are poor. No one wants a video game they can't play in a month because it's ded. I generally believe more people want to see games fail because of the looming recession. Tortanic was 2011.
>>736688481>Character design is cool for a power point but look awful in a video game>Entire map is filled with colored plastic slides from kid playgrounds.>Loot based shit and PVP only, everyone will drop the game after losing all their shit to campers>The worst UI of all time made by a guy that actively laugh at people that hate itWould be faster to name what went right, which is ripping off Sony
>>736689225It doesn't matter.It became a meme to shit on the game and farm social media engagement about it so it has to be "woke" and The Enemy.
>>736689225The studioThe game isn't woke but that doesn't matter
>>736688481kill yourself shill
Online is full of cheaters and lag. Give me a solo offline mode and maybe then I would care about the game. Thanks for asking.
>>736689347TOR was a success, althoghbeitever.
>>736689236I get it, enjoy it while it lastsI hear they will be adding solo queue soonas in you'll play by yourself because the service will be taken offline
>>736688481They marketed a nostalgia game towards 40+ yo gamers, with a format most played by 18-25 yos, that they probably switched to mid-stream so they had fuck all content at launch. They could have called this anything other than Marathon and half these problems go away. They could have made a half assed CTF/DOM game with a 8h story mode and almost all these problems go away.The game is not fun, tho. You have to budget 45 minutes for a match and 90% of that is staring at menus and wandering around environments you've already seen, to either get sniped at the end or succeed and get a "better" gun in a game when you can 1-4 shot near everyone with the starting guns. In that time I could play 2 full rounds of CS, do a full run of Hades 2, run ToS in Returnal twice, etc.
>Bungie or Sony didn’t say anything >”It’s Official”>check article >written by Paul Tassikill yourself. gonna go and have some fun shooting up faggots on marathon while you spam this thread about the problems of a game you’ve never played
>>736688283>the whole studio is tranny lighting
>>736689427The engoodening of Marathon videos in 2028 or the draft I imagine.
>>736689507Also known as neon lighting
>>736688481>genuinely, what exactly is the issue?People used to like cyberpunk robot stuff, right up until the moment they slowly began to realize that it's a dystopia that wants the average sob dead and replaced with A.I.The setting of Marathon is so much more dystopian than stuff like Bladerunner because it's bleak shit about death, death cults, corporations using dead people as food, weird looking people and robots, etc. Even in CP77 there was something cool like cars or that one brown woman character which used to be spammed around because of her ass.What is there to like in Marathon? You're some sort of robotic corpses which kill each other in dark rooms that look like hospitals and you're hunted by skynet.A.I. and robotics and cyberization and all that jazz was cool 30 years ago when Ghost in the Shell was some cool anime with a nice soundtrack and some light political/philosophical stuff on the side. Marathon is just what you'll be doing to each other in 20 years if the IT moguls get their way. Even the characters look weak and they didn't even lean into the sex appeal, as you do when you want to score easily for male audiences. It's a futuristic hunger games but it's not 3rd person so you can't look at your character's ass so you don't care about the skins you buy or get through gameplay and it's multiplayer meaning you have to have 3 other fucks with you on comms otherwise it turns into a shitshow fast. It's a nice genre too, how many people want to lose their shit or have the chance to lose their hard earned loot every time they play? Permadeath in games like diablo isn't popular for a reason. Who has the time to gamble with their items? Which took time to get? Are you gambling with your own time? There's an argument that you are, as you're not getting those items back which you lost, and you spent time getting.tl;dr bungie gambled with a niche genre and did their best to make their game appeal to even a smaller niche who likes dystopic settings
>>736689464It takes 2 minutes max to slot in a gun, shield, heals, and grenade. Do you have gear fear?
>>736689286I meant more along the lines of choosing a PvP focused extraction shooter as the foundation for a Marathon revival game. A lot of people seemed upset that it wasnt going to be a single player pve shooter like nuDoom wasI am aware that the lore in this release follows the OG pretty closely. Ive played some of the original series myself, but not entirely
>>736689507Bro don't look at the cross and square buttons of a dualshock.
>>736688717>uber hardcore gamewhat exactly is 'hardcore' about marathon? how is it any different than hunt showdown or literally any battle royale game?
>>736689924well in addition to the pvp mechanics you have to choke down a fat cock that is looking at the art style/ui
>>736689924It means "this game encourages teamwork and fighting other players, and I dont like the idea that Im not the best in the room at a video game"
>>736689624I guess they stopped making neon lights in any color than purple and blue. They used to make them in white, and they were the perfect and standard color for offices just like that.
>>736689646>blablablabla>200 word essay on shit i pull out of my assThe market is saturated with these sorts of games, everything else is garble.
>>736689464>Two rounds of CS being 45 minutes>Complaining about same maps but then playing CS and Hades>Marathon is 30 mins max rounds if waiting for final extraction>Rook rounds are like 15 mins maxWhat insane shit is this?
>>736690105Yes they only make blue and purple now because trannies or something
>>736688110Sony, notoriously easy on developers who ship flops and never shuts down studios or games.
>>736690128True, but CS is FUN and it's full of action. You don't slow walk around dust2 checking all the boxes to see if there's a menu to look at in there. Hades is charming as fuck, and again it's all ACTION. This game is like, gay depressing hikes through your kid's lego mess.
>>736690096nah i don't think that i just want to punish bungie for being a shit company for literally a decade or more
>>736688481Arc raiders and poor marketing is the only reason. Other than that, some games just slip through the net
>>736690248Yup
>>736688481>it's not a "woke" game for the retards that care about thatMarketing is literally one of the most important parts of modern game dev, and trying to sell people weird ugly looking sexless robots couldn't have been easy, and now they will get fired for not having the guts to stand up and say something about making their game woke and gay.
>>736689771Fair enough then, although I don't think a nuDoom clone would have worked right now. Maybe 5 years ago it would have been cool.
>>736688481arc raiders ate their lunch and the free beta basically poisoned people against their game. they have been consistently losing people since the server slam. the general public have rejected the game
>>736690128>lock in for competitive pvp game mode>or lock in for...wandering around waiting for someone to make a noise so your squad can hunt themThere's not enough time to experience the sci fi dystopia per run and there's too much down time during the run for PVP fun.
>>736690110>The market is saturatedSo was the hero shooter market and then Marvel Rivals came and raped.>blablablabla>everything else is garbleMore like >nanananana i can't hear youbecause you read something you didn't like and got triggered.
>>736687839>Why do active players like Marathon?It is a wholly unique game in both the extraction space and the shooter space in general.what is unique about the game in either space aside from its art style?
>>736690478>and then came an IP that has existed for decades as a video game with every character people want to play for freeMarvel Rivals apes off Marvel Fans. It cannot be reasonably compared to Marathon Trilogy fans that barely exist and Bungie fans that got fucked over in D2 recently.
>>736690342>trying to sell people weird ugly looking sexless robots couldn't have been easy,Its fine if you have enough Rule of Cool to back it up. Armored Core 6 did great despite having zero recognizably human visual elementsMarathon by comparison is too sterile and corporate. There's inklings of cool visual design in the maps themselves though
>>736687839KWABOTY
>>736687839Rest in peace shootslop game, you were boring and ugly.
>>736688110The standards are so low, that as long as you manage to keep the shop open for longer than a month, it's a "win"Motherfuckers wonder why gaming is dead, and every "new" game that comes out, you've already played before.
>>736690248>Yes they only make blue and purple now because trannies or something>nowyou admit it yourself
>>736690637>AC6Reminder that this was a disappointing From title for sales, and it will in all likelyhood still outsell Marathon by the time it goes EoS, has near zero server costs and will collect tail sales for the next 10 years.
>>736690619Meanwhile every single modern DC and Marvel games flopped even harder than Marathon.Maybe having character that doesn't look like shit helps, maybe.
>>7366884813 billion dollar + tip niche game that started off with the wrong foot by not appealing aesthetically to hardcore gamers (the main audience of extraction shooters)
>>736688481It's Bungie. I'm not buying a Bungie game after hearing the monetization strategy they had with destiny
dont worry maratroons are spending money on cosmetics they dont even want to save the game, by the time they're done it might make back half its budget!chuds lost!
>>736687839>Why are players falling off?>Those are notable declines, notably quick. There isn’t really a way to spin that. There may be many reasons, but one is rather simple: the game is too hard for many players.lmao they're still peddling the it's just too hard excuse? why do journos flatly refuse to even consider that people just don't like the game
>>736687839KWABOTYROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>736691096All Bungie needed to do was make their artstyle slightly more grounded like GITS or Neotoyko and allow players to always wear a full face helmet. HD2 and Arc Raiders have plenty of players without the sexy character designs of Marvel Rivals.
>copy hunt showdown>miss your launch date by a year due to being a studio of retarded troons>get mogged by redit raiders>hunt showdown is now 6 years mature game and also mogs you>double down safe in the knowledge that sony is so deep in the hole they totally wont liquidate bungie after missing every KPIform in a bottleim having a lightinga return to blast
Sony does not have the best track record when it comes to keeping things alive that they wish were bigger. MAG got 4 years.
>>736688481personally i didn't like the design of the characters, all that color is a bit unpleasant but not really that bad, and lastly but most importantly, its bungie... i hate bungie, will never give them a single dime and want them gone and buried
>>736691050If you lump it into the "FromSoft game" umbrella that includes the soulsborne games, sure. AC6 is by far the best selling game of the AC series. For a niche mecha IP to sell as well as AC6 did and win an award for Best Action Game is unheard of for mecha. It's kind of analagous to how well ARC sold as a game in the niche extraction shooter genre.
>>736687839Blasters? Where were you? Why are you not BLASTING??? They made this game for you to blast and you went to play Arc Raiders, Deadlock and CS????
its simply too big to fail
>>736691538what did he mean by this
>>736687839I'm playing this shit like there's no tomorrow until I get tired of it. I feel like this game will get shut down by sony soon. Shame since it's good too.
>>736688481I honestly think that once a game gets a bad reputation, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Thousands of people wanted this game to fail before it even came out. Same with Concord and Highguard. So now, it's dying slowly. Not as fast as the other two but it's 100% dying.
>>736691096>Meanwhile every single modern DC and Marvel games flopped even harder than Marathon.probably because Rivals has coomer designs in it.
>>736692238so what you're saying isI did this
>>736689025never played marathon, what does it require you to read?
>>736688481>is it just because it's an extraction shooterYes. The genre is shit.>I’m gonna get all this loot and level these skill trees!…just to have it all taken from me in 3 months (or on death if you’re bad)It’s a genre for cucks who like owning nothing and are happy about it. On top of that, it’s just not that interesting compared to other extraction shooters, which is why it’s dead on Twitch.
>>736692398An intersectional dissertation on racio-gender roles and transpolitical identity
>>736687839>300+ employees>$100k average salary (reasonable expectation given the location and the fact that it's a major studio)>7 years>(300 * 100,000) * 7 = $210MWow, it's almost as if the people who could do math were right!
>>736688620
>>736688481I just want total western game dev death.You guys seemed to think I was joking about that, I want all of these game studios to die, I want their games to fail, and I want their industry to become unsustainable and collapse.
>>736688110>I mean sure, Sony execs aren't happy and they'll probably all be fired in the coming months, BUT THEY ARENT LITERALLY KILLING EVERYONE SO THATS A WIN!that's not what winning is
>>736688481Streamers have a wager that Marathon will be shut down on one of those bet on anything apps, they've got their secondaries running a nonstop hate campaign against it.
>>736687839How is it official exactly? Bungie and Sony haven’t said anything.
>>736688481It's ugly.
>>736692398abilities aren't clear cut as to what they entirely do, requires you to fully read the description of abilities and items to understand what they do
>>736692447>DestinyJesus, just let it go. You'll never get your dogshit "classic" Destiny experience back and D2 is on palliative care by now. What is it about the mentally ill freaks that so heavily invest into one of the most mid games the company has put out?
>>736693942Destiny is just generic slop for autistic 17 year olds
>>736688481It's because it's an extraction shooter, but with absolutely nothing to mitigate the casual repellant effects of the genre that Arc Raiders had. If anything, they tripled down on the hardcore aspect of it, that scared normal people away. Cryo Archives was pretty much the nail in the coffin. You can read tons of review online where they praise the shooting, they want to like it, but they make it extremely difficult to like it with the unfun hardcore aspects, and that basically you have to be unemployed or a god gamer to be able to participate in Cryo Archives or to ever have a shot at killing the compiler.
>>736694332Agreed, destiny was just bad Halo all the way around with Borderlands LOOTSHOOTIN for added effect
>>736690334I may be a weirdo, but I like the artstyle, and I like the design of the shells. Thief is pretty cute actually and Vandal isn't bad either. It's nice not to always see the same anime waifu aesthetics that eastern developers can't seem to break away from.
>>736694580It's also got a visually distinctive style for all the shells, which makes the visual language clear. It's almost kind of silly how much people say the game is ugly and colorful then completely ignore that it's adhering almost religiously into the design principles on how TF2 handled player model silhouettes. Some of the designs for the shells are almost impossible to miss even at longer distances and you'll know exactly what they're doing from animations and sounds alone. You know when a Vandal is double jumping, Triage is priming EMP/Res or Thief using a grapple or drone.
>>736690342>>736690637If you want men, you need to cater to the male fantasy. The reason why agitating for the left used to make big money in the 90s but bleeds money now is because the real issue here isn't Democrat vs. Republican. It's Karen and her simps vs. guys. Some Karens carry Bibles, others carry pride flags. Both are after the same thing, which is forcing men to exist to serve them and grifting for money and social status. The industry used to side with guys, which resonated with people and made them popular. Now they side with Karen, and it's causing them to implode.
>>736695000LMAOOOOOOOTHEY LITERALLY HAVE GEORGE DROYD
>>736688282Left an honest negative review.
>>736688283Pasta la vista, mama mia.
>>736688481chasing market trends, no one wants an extraction shooterarc raiders is the exception that proved the rule
>>736696259and it's beautiful
>>736688282gamingcirclejerk redditors unironically believe that you are the problem.
>>736688481I don't like pvp extraction shooters. It's really just that simple.
>>736688481>genuinely, what exactly is the issue?1. All weapons are hitscan.2. "Bullet magnetism".3. Aim assist on controllers and consoles being effectively an aimbot.4. Inability to disable cross-play on PC.5. Inability to disable cross-play with PC users who use controllers to benefit from aim assist.6. Thermal scopes effective at all ranges, and not being affected by rain/fog/steam/environmental heat sources.7. Sound propagation (like being able to hear someone opening doors/containers) while being 30 feet outside.8. Spawn points being too close together, especially on Dire Marsh.9. Game being too rewarding for engaging in PvP and not sufficiently rewarding for engagement with PvE (xp values and faction progression).10. Visuals (moth eating 'pillars and such) being too repetitive.11. Blue colour during loading screen being too intense.12. Combination of visuals and music can give migraines.13. No epilepsy warning.14. Exceptionally unrewarding battlepass.15. No PvE mode.16. "Experimenting" with duo mode.17. Weekend availability of Cryo and ranked.18. BattlEye.19. Cheaters and hardware hacks.20. Inability to block players while in-game. You can only do that after you've completed the run and found their name in the "recent players" tab.There. 20 reasons.
>>736687839It's over
>>736697723>4. Inability to disable cross-play on PC.>5. Inability to disable cross-play with PC users who use controllers to benefit from aim assist.>18. BattlEye.>19. Cheaters and hardware hacks.Sounds insufferable
Hmmmmm….
>>736693942If Destiny is mid by Bungie standards, what is Marathon?
Where the fuck did that 250m go?Marathon is literally a MP only game with 4 fucking maps.Huh???? It doesn't even have any enemy variety.
>>736698769dont forget that marathon sold best on pc which valve takes a cut from
What was Destiny’s budget? Marathon doesn’t even have a story
>>736687839dont worry theyll launder money to fake sucessoh wait they already did that too much and the ritual magic they use to make people believe in paper money is losing power. so fuck you bungie i hope your golden parachutes dont last cuz there wont be anymorein fact i curse that it wont last.
>>736688481>but genuinely, what went wrong?Look the the picture you just postedWhy are the robots so ugly in this game? Wasn't bungie supposed to know a thing or two about armor designs from working on Halo and Destiny for years? Isn't it weird that this game has almost 0 fanart or any sort of fan content? Like any other game with interesting characters would?>but then ARC raiders is popular, and tarkov, hunt etc all have stable playerbases?Playing as a murder gopnik slav or a cowboy sounds way more appealing than a genderless gay robot or a literal ape >>736697548
I remember when shills were coping about how Marathon couldn’t possibly cost 200+ million dollars
>>736695756>dragging US culture war politics into thisPlease just fucking kill yourself
>>736699338It's a consequence of woke culture. I know what ya mean Anon. This game is pretty much in a weird limbo. It's a woke company with some cringe inclusive advertisements and designs but the game is genuinely good. If you need an example just look for that weird as fuck ad where they're in some sort of museum. Damn shame.
Lmfao
>>736699654>genuinely goodThat’s clearly the minority opinion.
>>736688481>genuinely, what exactly is the issue?its a bad game
>>736687839>$250m+ budgetWhere did the money go? Clearly not in the game...
>>736698795Also mid, but with a more appealing concept and in a genre where even the best entries are also still mid
>>736699612if the fun is all that matters, then why do the numbers cause him to have such a melty?
>>736688481It’s ugly woke dogshit
>>736699820paying the devs and hiring "consulting"firms to waste huge chunks of time on useless meetings
>>736700021>how [Game] can make a comebacklol another space on the Concord Bingo board
>>736700030it's about time for companies to realize that "consulting firms" are actually extortion rackets. they say "we will make your game good give us millions of dollars or else your game WILL be BAD and THE AUDIENCE WILL HATE IT" aka their journo cronies who get a cut of the take will hate it.Guess who didn't pay the extortion? Crimson Desert.
>Sony really thought Marathon would reach Arc Raiders levels of popularity lol
>>736700178Arc raiders wasnt even out when Marathon was pitched. Only niche shit like Tarkov and Hunt were. Which makes you wonder what the fuck they were smoking betting the farm on this type of game.
>>736700253Seems like maybe some consultants all colluded to tell the company that something was popular which wasn't actually true.
>>736700253They thought Tarkovs huge popularity on twitch equaled viewers, especially since Tarkov did not have unbiased numbers for everyone to see since it was not on steam.
>>736700117kekd
>>736687839>a bunch of screeching nufag trannys on /v/ think their opinions on games matteryou either play the actual game and talk about it in /vg/ or fuck offthese maratroon threads are getting old and gay
>>736700341>hateit is not hate to say a game is failing
>>736697723>10. Visuals (moth eating 'pillars and such) being too repetitive.agreed, it also takes a fuck ton to get into a lobby. I can shitpost on /v/ for 5 minutes between runs, doing so rn
>>736700490kill yourself shill
>>736700490don't worry anon, I'm sure the game will still be around in a month
>>736695000TF2 design is simple and pleasing. You've got a uniform with simple colors, you've got a couple of quirky props and accessories that show you what they're all about (the Medic needs those gloves because he's about to pump you full of chemicals and cut you open), and you've got cartoonishly exaggerated masculine features. You can imagine the skits and interactions just by looking at them.Marathon's designs are covered in terrible color schemes and random pieces that are just stuck together, and whereas the cast of TF2 has a certain brand of comedic masculine charm that makes you want to see more of them, there's nothing charming about this modern art show lineup.
>>736699654no thanksWhy would I support a product that pushes everything that I hate? Try making your game less gay and boring next time.
Humiliation ritual
>>736700559you wish i was a shill, patrick>>736700584i hope not, this game needs to die already so you fags go back to sharty and spam your shit there
>>736700771
>>736700824>I'M NOT A SHILL YOU JUST CAN'T TALK ABOUT A GAME BEING BAD OR YOU ARE NOT FROM HERE OKAY?????????????mcfuckin' blast have yourself shill
>>736687839>Skinned and gutted Destiny 2 while it was still alive to pay for this shit>Fired half their fucking studio afterwards>Plagiarized their terrible art direction >Everyone in charge of the aforementioned is still in charge todayIf you support this dog shit game made by a do shit company, you deserve to eat nothing but dogshit forever.Absolute cattle, the lot of you.
>>736700685Imagine getting dunked on by a 12 year old thalassophobia simulator
>>736692196i hope steam hands out refunds if they do close it, i have like 4 hours on it so can't refund by normal means
REMINDER this isn't even including the marketing budget.https://youtu.be/fvbEnWLRo1sImagine how much this shit costs.
>>736688481I enjoyed reading almost all the answers to this
Troonsisters..
>>736701019Fuckin hilarious. I looked at the charts myself for the first time earlier and Layoffathon was 70th. I had to hit next 3 times.
>>736701048Why did sony even spend this much on marathon
>>736701039They should, these companies need to stop stealing from players by making terrible games as a gamble and then cutting their losses. At least open it for community servers, not that anyone wants to play this game after it closes next week.
Reminder they paid a bunch of high profile voice actors for this too
>>736700981>you're totally a shill!>us spamming the same thread about the same game every day totally isnt annoying>if you dont support us shitting on a game you are a tranny/shill/tourist>have a blast bro! lightning in a bottle!
>>736701060>it really was troons this whole time
>>736701161It seems like a group of people lied to Sony and convinced them it was worth money so that they could get paid some of the money. "Eyyyyyyyyyyy buy this company our buddy owns, it's gonna be great! You'll make a mint! No, he isn't paying me to tell you this, I'm independent!"
>>736701207nobody ever said you couldn't like this trash we just made fun of you for liking ityou are the one saying we can't make fun of itif you aren't a shill you're just a fucking loser doing it for freeso kys
>>736699612>-19LLAMA.
>>736701327kek
>>736699820Marketing, bribes, almost 85% positive review on steam, all that shitty merch, phat bonuses for execs and upper management.
>>736688110>lose around $150m-$200m>this is actually a win though since it didn't get shutdown in a monthI somehow think the important people at Bungie and Sony don't see it that way
>>736701295>we just made fun of you for liking itwe as in? who? your xixters on discord? lmaoi never once mentioned me liking this shit gameim making fun of (you) for always letting it live in your head rent freeim not saying you cant make fun of itbut doing it on /v/ just makes you a bigger fag than usual
>>7366998202 huge big budget production trailers with big name hollywood directors probably had something to do with it.
>>736690269Actually Sony is on a killing spreed on everything they can except bungie itself because it would make them look bad, but they still need to cut cost because Bungie's failure.
>Resetera steam charts thread is on page 166 Top kek
>>736701471>whoTHE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET EXCEPT FOR YOU AND YOUR KIKE JOURNO BUDDIES LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>736688481TORtanics have already invested too much into shitposting for it to not flop
>>736701514so troon forums all about toxic positivity get steamcharts but /v/ doesn't?
>>736693842finally the correct response
>>736701048that cute vandal was such a fucking bait
>>736701618>Projects his anxiety about his failing investment onto the people watching it failBravo, bravo. New level of cope unlocked.
>>736687839>It's official: unofficial speculation article
>>736701663I'm 90% sure Bungie was paying off the mods here at first to delete marathon threads. Anything even slightly negative in the first couple weeks got deleted
if this had a cool single player campaign, like maybe 8-12 hours long, I'd have probably eventually bought it on a sale desu. For $250,000,000 seems like they should have been able to do that.
>>736701524is that seriously all you can come up with shartybro?then again you are probably under the age of 18 and brownso critical thinking isn't your best traits
>ITT
>>736701790Not surprising, it was one of the worst received trailers in modern history, probably second only to Highguard
>>736701790No, it was because there were paid Marathon shills making threads left and right. It went like this:>paid shill makes thread to shill Marathon>anons start posting stuff the shill doesn't like (art plagiarism scandal, the art looking weird, the playtest having bad numbers, whatever else)>shill tries to keep shilling but gets buried by anons calling them out on shilling>shill abandons thread after 50-60 posts because they lose control of 'the message'>shill makes new thread>process repeatsThey were really low quality shills, too.
>>736687839there's no source for any of these claims
>>736701930Go look at abungie head count and where the studio is based
>>736700651No thanks? For what? You don't need me to tell you what to play. My point is this game is in a rock and a hard place and it's a damn shame.
>>736702024>Destiny 2 entire budget: 430M>1 month of Marathon: 800 billionsfuck you Paul, you will never be a journalist
>>736701842No matter how much you project about anyone else being here in bad faith you will always be a retarded inbred sewer rat. The world hates you because of your behavior.
>>736702103You lost, little shill
>>736688481You need a squad with mics in order to play properly. Completing your asinine contracts with randoms is impossible and the solo experience sucks ass.The enemies on offer are a total joke in comparison to Arc Raiders, they went with bright and blocky bots instead of deadly wildlife or the Pfhor. To think that this is same studio that created the Covenant is upsetting.The art style is incredibly off-putting to the FPS/extraction audience. You're free to enjoy it, but acknowledge that CoD kids/milsimfags have zero desire to run around with plastic guns in bright gaudy buildings.It's both heavily casual (aim assist) and heavily hardcore (no safe pocket). I don't understand what audience they were trying to pull in with this.Bungie has a middling reputation at best. They siloed themselves off from the rest of the industry by making Destiny expansions for a decade, then fucked Destinyfags in the ass and left them to rot. They guaranteed themselves day one haters.They ditched the original vision and made it a hero shooter because...because they're fucking retarded I guessCharacter designs + cosmetics are largely unappealing, this game would be deemed a failure even if it sold well because it's guaranteed to have next to no MTX spending
Bungie has never made a good game.Halo was a blight on the FPS genre.Good fucking riddance. I spit on their grave.
The hate for this game is astroturfed by Crimson Desert shills from India
>>736699753I disagree, the majority of player reviews like the game. The problem is the game company and how Bungie took resources from Destiny to make it.
>>736696259Why do hero shooters with non sexual girls?
>>736702164No Legendary Reviewer Travis Northup, the game that sold 100x what your game sold is not being shilled by india. People like it and are playing it. People do not like Marathon and are not playing it.
>>736702104>retarded inbred sewer ratprojecting bro?>The world hates you because of your behaviorim just some anon who posts on image boards for fun and to troll or have actual discussionwhat i do here has 0 affect on the real world lmaoyou are trying too hard to sound superior to some random dude on the internet
>>736688481ITS JUSY A FUCKING EXTRACTION SHOOTERTHATS ITTHEY DIDNT MAKE ANYTHING SPECIAL OR REVOLUTIONARY OR GENRE DEFININGTHEY MADE A FUCKING GLORIFIED MULTIPLAYER ONLY TEAM DEATH MATCH GAME WITH DOGSHIT ONBOARDING
>The hate for this game is astroturfed by Crimson Desert shills from India
>>736702167Destiny had more than a decade of content and you faggots still piss and shit and moan when Bungie doesn't give it full attention lol
>>736702240lmao
>>736702257>chabad tunnel tantrumkek
>>736702212i cant believe people are pretending an extraction shooter is some unique avantgarde thing now
>>736689165>>shat on the legacy of the original IPkill yourself larper,You didn't play any of those games
>>736702271b-but bungie gunplay...
>>736699867>with a more appealing conceptThanks for the laugh, shill
I hope Sony keeps pouring more and more money into the Bungie bunghole trying to make their gaped ass tight when it’s impossible
>>736702325what are you talking about anon
>>736702327and instead I can believe some faggot from /v/ who doesn't play games pretends to know what they play like
>>736702167>the majority of player reviews like the game.The majority of people who played the Server Slam never bought it to begin with.
>>736702289Na, Destiny fags are upset because a large part of the game was sunsetted. THEN the resources were diverted to Marathon. It's no wonder the majority of updates for Destiny were ass.
>>736702406uh huh marathon isnt even as hardcore as tarkovthey hired a valorant cuck to design a streamlined game that no one wants to play lmao
Bungie is really fucking retarded though, they could easily make a game mode for the more casual playerbase while the sweaty play ranked or smth there's literally no point in making this game cause it's for no one, tryhards already play Tarkov and they will never leave and casuals already play Arc Raiders, but even in Arc there are other game modes if you want to play harderNews flash you need casuals playing an online multiplayer game cause they are the majority like it or not
>>736699820>>$250m+ budget>Where did the money go?nowhere, this game likely had a budget of 90M-110Mwhich would align to what Destiny 1 had
>>736695000The difference is tone, TF2 is very joyful, Destructoid called them "lighthearted without becoming childish, and wonderfully violent without being needlessly gruesome." in 2007.MARATHON by contrast is relentlessly joyless, cribbing unearned horror aesthetics, to compliment it's joyless and boring gameplay and character designs. if tf2 is whimsy, MARATHON is tragic and unfunny.
IGN has spoken.
>>736702479>uh huh marathon isnt even as hardcore as tarkovyes it is>you instantly die = hardcoreLOLMarathon is far more mechanically intricate and high skill ceiling>>736702471Destiny updates are ass because that game needed to die 3 years ago
How to save Marathon.Directive for its developers: don't think - execute.1. Immediately enable PvE lobby for all maps.2. Immediately enable duo on all maps.3. Immediately disable weekend-only lock for Cryo Archive.All else can be done later.
>>736702537>a new report has claimedNigger
>>736702537sony probably has plans for more concords so they need to keep bungie busy
>>736702557Lol Marathon is not even as hard as Hunt cause the entire game is basically your endgameNow comparing Marathon to Tarkov is really fucking dumb cause it's the game all the tryhards autists play and will never leave
>>736702537>too alive to mercy kill, too sick to declare healthyi hate when producers draw out boring character arcs, can we just get to the "where did it all go wrong/haters ruined the game" narrative
>game has an in-built aimbot>hardcorePlease fuck off.
Marasissies..
>Game had almost twice the budget of Crimson Desert>Sold 1/4 what CD did
>>736687839Go return to form, top the c---a-ckkkkk!!!
>>736702615>Destiny 1 plus The Dark Below plus House of Wolves plus The Taken King plus Rise of Iron >Budget: 145M>Destiny 2 plus Curse of Osiris plus Warmind plus Forsaken plus Shadowkeep plus Beyond Light plus The Witch Queen plus Lightfall plus The Final Shape plus The Edge of Fate plus Renegades >Budget: 630M>Marathon and a single release month>Budget: 161891328293791321734784934934 Billions or morbillionsMakes perfect sense, Paul Tranni
>>736702557>Mechanically intricate >Game has aimbot by default Lol try using a fucking sniper in Tarkov without your precious aimbotting fag and you'll get laughed out the game
>>736689646Good effort post, anon. Agreed. It’s outdated and bleak. Tarkov is ‘bleak’ but you have the gritty muh realism at least
>>736702716I don't think you've played a single hour of Tarkov
>>736702776source?
>>736687839If you wanna laugh a little, search "concord and destiny comparison", and then consider the fact that Marathon is a straight port of Destiny animations, movement physics and abilities.Marathon is quite literally Concord 3.
>>736702958Did you just ask for a source on if Marathon is a AAA game?
>>736702939Played enough to know Maraflop will never be as hardcore cause they don't have aimbot in their guns
>>736688481>it's not a bad game, nor is it an unfun gameand that's where you're wrong.
>>736702992what's your source on Marathon budget?
>>736702978lmao that makes perfect sense honestly
Could've made a single player game following this guy with a lot of dark humor thrown in there
>>736703045>what's your source on Marathon budget?Paul Tassi, a huge bungie shill who normally speaks to people working at Bungie
>>736702939Does Tarkov has aim assist like Marathon? Get fucked marasis, nice hardcore game when aim assist in literally a gun stat
>>736703045kill yourself shill
>>736702914It doesn't make any fucking senseEither Paul Tassi has an agenda and a massive hateboner for the game or Marathon is mysteriously the most expensive game every made and several times more costly than GTAV
>>736702008>I'm sure if I cover my ears and eyes and ignore all of the objective information that points toward the same general picture, Marathon will be successfulSelf deception is a sad thing, anon.
>>736703014>goes into threads talking about a game he doesn't play to make an argument against another game he doesn't playActual tranny behavior
>>736703091>Paul TranniLOL>Bungie shillso the biggest Marathon hater
>>736702537It'll probably get put down after a year like SS:KTJL.
>>736703150>shill meltdownk what a retard
>>736702914Now adjust those destiny numbers for inflation
>>736702537>by Wesley Yid Pool..t-t-t-travis bros?? Why isn't OUR GUY writing this Marathon article?!
>>736702537>It is not facing an IMMINENT Concord-style shutdown>But it is facing a shutdown
>The SAME shill is having a mental breakdown over the budget again Does Bungie not pay more people? Did they run out of money?
>>736702614This is bungie we're talking about. I bet they spent 100 mil on HRT alone.
>>736703174>Moving the goalpost Answer the question marasissyDoes Tarkov has aim assist like in Marathon?
>>736703231What inflation retard, it's a 2014 and a 2018 game, with super recent expansions, those prices are already adjusted for inflation btw because they are recent reports
>>736702537>reportedly>claimed>>736687839>likely>might
>>736703281He can't even come up with new talking points. Either this guy is the dumbest motherfucker of 2026 or he's working from a script.
>>736703281I saw a screenshot of a discord post where they paid Indians to post on reddit. Should've saved it :(
>>736702914>>736703045>>736703150I hate you cocksucking 'source? WHERE'S THE SOURCE?' shills, but at the same time I appreciate you because it lets me post this same info to btfo you again. Here's why Marathon cost $250m or more:>development time of five years, possibly six (but we'll say it's 5 for simplicity)>average development staff of 300 at Bungie (this number would have increased and decreased over those five years, and 300 is the average. It also doesn't include outsourcers)>average tech salary in Seattle (where Bungie is) is $125k/yr, but you would add at least $25k to that because Bungie pays employer taxes, health insurance, and other stuff, so $150k/employee/year5 (years) x $150,000 (1 employee's annual salary) x 300 (300 Bungie devs on Marathon) is $225,000,000Now, you have to add:>marketing>outsourcing>computers/software/operational costs of running a business for 5 years$300m is the LOW figure for marathon's budget.Now please shills, pretend not to understand or believe in any of these publicly verifiable numbers while seething about Tassi (and everyone else) being right about the budget, and then tongue my anus.
>What inflation retard, it's a 2014 and a 2018 game, with super recent expansions, those prices are already adjusted for inflation btw because they are recent reports
>>736703174What lie you fucking shill? You're claiming Marathon is more hardcore and mechanically intricate than Tarkov when you literally have aim assist as a gun statusNice hardcore game when you can aimbot by default
>>736702914The implication that Marathon somehow costs almost double GTAV adjusted for inflation is hilarious>>736703442>le made up salaries spam from the same retard that doesn't understand conceptrual phase and pre-developmentuh uh melty
>>736703443Those games cost 38% more then? so your point is even more retarded and 250 million + marketing is completely accurate?
>>736703364This is the dumbest shilling I've ever seen. They should fire yo ass.
>>736703563>t-the salaries are FAKEGo to levels.fyi or any salary aggregator and search for tech salaries in Seattle. $125k is also low end for software devs and programmers.Or you can continue to live in filth and ignorance by pretending this information isn't publicly available, especially since companies have to publish salaries in CA and WA.
>Guys there is no fucking way Marathon cost $200m please ignore that a standard triple A game budget nowadays is $250m to 300m and PLEASE ignore that Concord cost $400m
>>736703563>double GTAV adjusted for inflationAnon, GTA V cost ~$250 million in 2013 dollars, which would be ~350 million today.
>>736703443Destiny 1 plus every single of its expansions, meaning 4 years of content, costs 190M adjusted for inflationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_developThere's no way that the mere release of 1.0 of Marathon costs more than that, especially because Detiny had nearly double the dev size of Marathon
>>736703638The only way he would know is if he works there or knows people who do, so...
>>736702992Based retard
>>736703648>please ignore that a standard triple A game budget nowadays is $250m to 300m false>and PLEASE ignore that Concord cost $400malso false, Concord had a bidget of 200M AFTER Sony increased it, this has been confirmed.Just like thew 200M Marathon budget, sensationalist garbage trannytubers rode into a meme for views
>>736703648shill retard btfo forever
This dude just linked Wikipedia and thinks people will take him seriously
>>736703651The $190m is for Destiny itself. The expansions were separate.And it's easy for Marathon to cost more, as shown in >>736703442
>>736688481>premium priced extraction>inherently don't like pvp>the guns are fuck ugly>bungie's consistent track record of being absolute shit with D2I literally have zero reasons to buy the gameShit, I wouldn't even touch it even if it was free anyway
>>736703648>PLEASE ignore that Concord cost $400mIt didn't, and certainly Marathon didn't cost 200M
>>736702537WE WON MARATHONSISTERS
>>736703752>falseSource?>also falseSource?
>>736703781>The $190m is for Destiny itself.wrong
>>736703804>IT'S NOT A MASSIVE FUCKING FLOP IT ONLY COST 199.99 MILLION PLUS MARKETING TRUST ME GOYIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>736702537>Marathon is shutting down! Here's an endless list of reasons why the game failed that don't involve the troon-coded art direction or the lack of vision and foresight in game design!
>>736703752The $400 million is counting marketing and Sony's purchase of Firewalk.
>>736703804See >>736703442Isn't amazing how you shills can't debate any of the points and just keep repeating 'It just DIDN'T COST THAT MUCH because I FEEL that it DIDN'T'? This is why you guys are the most effective people at making Marathon look bad, far better than any normal anon could.
Marathon wouldn't be such a fucking embarrassment if not for its completely retarded defenders.
>>736703442made up numbers
So they think pretending that it didn't have a big budget will somehow make it not a flop?
>>736703648>PLEASE ignore that Concord cost $400mDid Asmongoloid say that? Or was it Paul Tassi?
>debate my fake numbers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
>>736703873That's because they aren't playing the game, likely never have. Destiny niggers just played that piece of shit no matter how bad it was, they were busy doing their chores and never came here to throw tantrums about their game being bad. These retarded shills are obviously not playing Marathon, you can't play an extraction shooter and shill at the same time. That means they're just trash who hate the game as much as we do and just want us to be wrong or actual employees posting advertisements.
He's replying to the same posts multiple times. Maratroon is completely and utterly broken KEK
>>736703821nta but you're a fucking retard. Average bungo salary is like 100k but even if we were generous and said it was like 84k, there is 400 developers that were working on this for at least 5 years. That is around 168-172 million in just dev wages alone. Marketing costs for AAA games are usually 50% of the development cost which would be the 172 million and paying a Oscar winning animator to make an entire 8 minute short on top of paying a band and singer to make music for an entirely different 8 minute short isn't cheap at all. Entire cost for Marathon is somewhere in the 250 million range. Even if they sold 1.2 million copies per the supposed sales numbers at $42 a pop if we are generous and assume every single one was the deluxe edition that would only amount to 50.4 million which is around 200 million short of even breaking even.
>>736703931>Now Kotaku is citing sourcesHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>736703928Success and failure are relative terms. A tiny niche studio would be thrilled with a million copies sold.But this isn't a tiny niche studio or a side project.
>>736704001There's also the small detail that most of the dev teams work on the last 70% of the game, afyter the actual concept was drafted
>>736703442
Can the shill name a single time Paul Tassi's info has ever been wrong regarding Bungie?
Crimsaar desert shills having a melty
Whole lot of projection in this thread...
>>736704073Yeah, and Marathon was concepted back in 2017-2019. It had a pretty big reboot half way through development just like Destiny where they changed a bunch of things about the game. Just compare what they were talking about in the original Vidoc to the actual released game. Marathon was not put together with the budget of 3 potato chips and 1 piece of chewing gum. It was a super expensive game from a studio notorious for being shit with money.
>>736688481>genuinely, what exactly is the issue?Quite literally ConcordIt burnt Playstation multiplayer games reputation to the ground by being the biggest flop not just in videogame history but media all together.Is not coincidence that Highguard was "Concord 2", and Marathon "Concord 3". If you are developing any type of hero shooter and you are not connected to an already popular IP like the case of Marvel's Rivals, it's over.
Posting in here late but obviously the PR can't say it's a flop and they have to bullshit around it until it shut down. 15k retards will need to whale the fuck up to keep this shit alive and it's not happening. They lose 100-200 people a day and it's getting shut down in a couple months.
>>736704157Yeah people projecting about Marathon failing.People are playing it, they're having a blast. We don't know the PS5 numbers but we do know Sony have been very supportive of the title and there's been a lot of media buzz. And I mean a lot it's constant.
>Kotaku speaking to actual developers is not a source>Paul Tranni saying it was told to him in a dream isIt's hilarious how /v/ is suddenly shilling a gaming journos that has been writing hitpieces against this game ever since he got filtered in a playtest and took personal offense on that>NOOOOO H-HE IS A BUNGIE SHILL
>>736703849I suggest you read the sources you use. This is from the Activision contract.>Destiny Game #1 had a $140m budget>>736703905>>736704095>made up numbersSources for each:>300 devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGvZtFJARaM&t=968s>development started in 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGvZtFJARaM&t=968s (this same link above)>tech salaries in Seattle: https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater-seattle-areaNow please pretend to be blind and deaf and unable to watch or understand the materials above, especially the vid where the fucking Marathon game director talks about staff size and dev start time.God bless you clowns, because its going to let me screencap these posts for use later.
It really is just one guy holy shit. And he does it for free
>>736688481Projects like this need the type of hype the industry can no longer provide. I genuinely wonder if Sony regrets killing E3 because they need it more than anyone now, they were GOOD at it, Nintendo was hit or miss, Xbox was always a huge waste of time. A game like this would have at least three years of expectations and discussion behind it to support the hype and all they needed was to sprinkle some teasersNow games have ideas that are four years out of date dropping out of nowhere, companies have less on-going IPs than ever, graphics don't impress anyone to the point where optimization is more discussed in between tech enthusiasts than how good any piece of bread will ever look on any game, western giants like Ubisoft and Bethesda are now monopoly slaves while "soon to be dead"s of the 2010s like Capcom are thriving like it is the 90s again
Fucking FINALLYAnyone else excited to tell this news to their family this thanksgiving?
>>736704296You gotta stop sleeping bro these dream revelations are eating away at your sanity bro. Those numbers aren't real.
>>736704338I wish my family looked at me like this. But they don't because they are brown and I am brown.
>>736704242>trolling outside of /b/You niggers are too obvious that it's cringe. If you were to troll as a shill, make it less obvious. I'm not wasting my time pretending to be a shill, but it shouldn't be difficult. Git gud.
>>736688110>well they haven't fired the entire team in the first month, so it's a successwe're reaching cope levels never seen before
>>736704338Mom, dad, they're NOT shutting down Marathon - remember that game I told you about? - That's good, hun.
>>736704342>these numbers aren't real>but I won't say which ones are wrong, or why they're wrongWhat step on the grief ladder is this, anon? Denial?
Lmao who cares if it's 150 million or 200 million or 250 million when we know for a fact that it probably only reached 1 million sales or so (roughly 40 million in sales)
>>736704270
>>736704405I think it's a step up onto the stool that he's going to kick out from under his own feet
>>736704416We only know that it hit 400k discord users, any sales figures are speculation.
>The marathon shill is using kotaku as a legit source Holy fuck lmfao
>>736704405I gotchu
>>736704418Over $200mil = $6billion
>>736704298>14 weeks later Still playing it vs bots having fun bruh it's not dead Not worth engaging people who are not prepared for the inevitable.
doomers can't cope that the game cost less than a kajillion to make
>>736704418What's also funny to me is if this was an alternate universe where Marathon was a success, and Tassi was quoting sales figures from inside Bungie, the shills would be kissing his feet and singing his praises.>>736704430I sometimes think they're actually really sneaky shitposters who bait people like me into providing info that btfos the actual shills.>>736704462This pic is just Tassi saying the budget is NOT under $260m but he won't confirm it as fact. And you clearly don't want to debate the actual data I put in my post where Ziegler is talking about staff counts and dev length, I wonder why that is?
>>736704338>So get this, the CCUs just dropped 10% from this time last month!>Ugh, I told you it 'concurrent users'!
>>736704541>This pic is just Tassi saying the budget is NOT under $260m but he won't confirm it as fact. And you clearly don't want to debate the actual data I put in my post where Ziegler is talking about staff counts and dev length, I wonder why that is?Not not under $260M means $261M or more, retard.
Wait...hang on... The players are really getting energized right now!If the line keeps going up we might break through 100k within TODAY!
>>736704242I just joined the thread you musky mongrel. Why did you only respond to me with your weak bait?
>>736704593Yes, and? You're agreeing with me that the game cost $250m+ or more to develop? I'm glad you finally came around.
>>736687839This industry's in a bad place.
They say it's bad bait but reply to it.The bait is effective.
>>736704338AAIEEEEEEE
Its funny how hard the Marasissies try to deny reality. You don't even need Paul Tassi's word, just some basic math and it shatters their entire cope narrative. They have deluded themselves into believing the retarded Bungie made Marathon with a budget of $5 and not the $200-250 million money pit it actually cost. Lets do a little math Marasissies... What is $84,000 multiplied by 400? Take that number and then multiply it by 5. Now tell me did Marathon even make that amount back in sales, no? Well now add a 50% increase for a marketing budget. You can struggle against reality as much as you want... but the cold hard truth will finally dawn upon you as Sony RAPES Bungie and Marathon dies. Marasissies enjoy their own little humiliation ritual where they get RAPED by reality and the DOOMGODS! Do continue to entertain us, little marasisses...
>>736704242>people are playing it and having a blastYeah, they're having such a blast they voted for Crimson Desert to win Playstation's player choice award for March (the same month Marathon launched)>https://www.enduins.com/news/pearl-abyss-crimson-desert-named-playstation-players-choice-winner-for-march-2026LOL
What would Mason think of the numbers?
>>736688875Ever since the launch of Destiny I have hated them
>>736688481every decision was catered to streamer sweats who were involved in the multiple closed betas. unless you're a masochist, the game isn't fun if you're worse than average because you just never extract and end up not just failing to make progress, but actively losing progress. so the below average players quit the game, the average skill goes up, and a new group is on the bottom making no progress. rinse and repeat to bleed your playerbase.and on the other end of the spectrum, the biggest streamer in the extraction shooter space barely played the game because his chat bitched about it too much. shroud, the next biggest streamer in the space, played it for a bit, dropped it for crimson desert, and now has moved on to other shit. so the group they tried the hardest to appeal to has, predictably, largely dropped the game to move on to the next thing for fresh "content".only thing that could get new players at this point would be a pve mode, but they've publicly dismissed that idea too many times to even consider it. season 2 will probably get a small bump in players, but mostly returning people and not new sales. then they'll be reminded why they dropped the game and other people who played throughout season 1 will drop it because they don't want to grind through the same progression system every three months.
>>736704716The funniest cope I've seen them trot out is saying the average gamedev salary in Seattle is $50k, so the game was really cheap actually
>>736704602>player get bored>friends play other games>player go play with friends>player never play againOnly the no life fans will stick to the end. It happens in every mp game.
>>736704659Well with shills like the fucking moron in this thread representing them you have to wonder how stupid the people in charge are.
>>736704602It's so unironically over.More and more people leave and the ones remaining are just hardcore no-lifers sweats with 50+ hours that will BTFO everyone in sight and make noobs that went looking for an Arc-like experience refund their copies immediately
>>73670476584k annual salary is actually me being generous to Bungie. You can go look at their own career page and see their roles are in the 100k+ range for salaries.
>>736704651Did you reply to the wrong person? This game is fucked
>>736704854You said it better than myself but that's exactly what happens lmao.
Why didn't he reply to this post?>>736704104
Budget: 200 millionShutdown Imminent: NoDoomers: Raped.
>>736704912kek womp womp shill taking a bottle of sleeping pills
>>736704756I hated them since they fired Marty
>>736704865>84k, 100kIt's actually even more than that because $100k is just what an employee gets, but it costs an employer usually 50-100% more of that same salary to pay for state/federal taxes, health benefits, and other stuff.>>736704892No, that anon I replied to maybe read it wrong or didn't realize the pic he posted was Tassi saying 'Marathon cost $260m or more'.>>736704912The shills ignore any information they proves them wrong, so you'll be waiting for a while.
>>736691898Man I need to go play AC6 again. I took the time to make an actual fucking pinup emblem I need to go use it
>>736704929Player count: 75% reduction since launch and fallingGame sales: 1/9th of what they neededShills: In denial
Hey Maratroons, you dropped something.
>want to appeal to poopsocking raiders>get poopsock raiders>but no one elsethe extraction shootslop genre really is just what shit devs moved on to when publishers finally realized shit devs will never successfully clone WoW. Instead they'll keep unsuccessfully cloning Overwatch.
>>736702537>Pick up the pace.
>>736705040The same thing is what killed both Highguard and, sort of, Wildstar.
Tahnit status?
Why didn't Bungie just made an extraction shooter game mode or spinoff game from Destiny?
>>736705130Raped and gaped
>>736705149That would have been a smart move and wouldn't have owned the chuds.
>>736705110>WildstarMan...It had so many problems but I did love that game. I had a big rock lady medic and even got her the first raid tier's armor which was awesomeI think I...hid the helmet
>>736705234Almost every franchise here is dead
>>736705234I'm more amazed they'll double down on faggotry rather than cater to the chuds (apolitical normalfags)
>>736704296the 300 devs weren't all exclusively working on marathon for five years, retard.
It's so funny to me that Paul Tassi, a huge Bungie shill, is who completely broke marathon fags
>>736705341You're right, it was at least 400 devs.
>>736704950>other stuffSoftware licenses for business can be crazy expensive per employee.
>>736705110Wildstar was funny because it took all the BAD aspects of hardcore, classic MMORPGs PvE and put it together and expected it to go well. And I don't mean harder = bad, I mean shit like that insane keying process, arbitrary gearing stats, and extreme RNG shit that could ruin your dungeon and similar runs. Oh and turning everything into ancient evil purple goo.
>>736705381It's so funny, I think he even defended the DCV with Travis back in the day on their gay Destiny podcast. The voice of reason is the irredeemable chud/fascist that hates Bungie, but has admitted that Bungie failing would be bad for him and his coverage at Forbes.
>>736705242I think to this day, Wildstar still has the best character animations I've ever seen in a game.>>736705341300 is the average, dipshit. You have fewer at the start, you bulge in the middle, and go down to a smaller team near the end. But in Marathon's case, they ramped back up because they took those 8 extra months after delaying to fix a bunch of shit.>>736705404Yeah, it's fucked. Adobe and Autodesk are some of the biggest cunts on the planet.>>736705473Whoever the lead dev was had to have been some kind of insane Ziegler type that is just convinced that people want to suffer to play the game. Maybe he was an original EQ fan or something.
>game consistently has 20k players>retards still say this is bad
>>736687839Wasn’t Paul Tassi the one saying it “found its core player base” like a week ago?
>>736705538I love this meme because the number gets lower every time.
>>736705341Then what were they doing? Do you have a source?
>>736705538>Solid 50k>Solid 40k>Solid 30k>Solid 20k(you are here)>Solid 10k>EOS
>>736705538Remember when this game could get 30k? Those were the days...
even the Something Awful trannies shill this gamehttps://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4106986
>>736705691You forgot about the solid 140k, 130k, 120k, 110k, 100k, 90k, 80k, 70k, and 60k.
>>736705693Listen here chud, Marathon just hit its daily peak and it's HIGHER than yesterday by a few hundred lmao
>>736688481People have been trained to see ugly=wokeIt is ugly=>it is wokeMost people dont do further research after initial impression, they just reach conclusion with a few images and ignore the game. Simple as that
Marathon is so much funnier than Concord because there are people actually shilling for it slowly going insane each week.
>>736705691>>736705538remember when people were coping when it launched with under 90k and were saying it would surely hit 100k over the release weekend? barely a month later and it's struggling to break a third of that number lmao
>>736705537you've pulled an average number out of thin air then used a current 2026 average seattle salary and applied that over the past five years. like i said, made up numbers.
One MAGAcock could fix Marathon
>>736705751Nah man I still think Concord is funnier. They paid for a Secret Level episode to shill season 2 and it came out and everything. We got to see all the new characters they were going to come out with several months after the game was already deadAnd for some reason they really, really, REALLY wanted you to know the angry black girlboss captain lady had armpit hair
I used to want Marathon to fail because Bungie as a company has just been awful and shitty, but Marathon defenders are getting so uppity I now almost want it to fail to spite them in particular. Why can’t you niggers just accept your game is niche and unappealing to most people?
>>736705878I accept it's niche, i accept it's the hardest of cores, but marathon will never die!
>>736704674Anon... check what the bait replied to
>>736705808>it's an average number of devsAnon, you can look at the Marathon credits and see the number of Bungie people yourself:>https://www.mobygames.com/game/245427/marathon/credits/windows/>and the salary from 2026 doesn't countThe average salary today is like $250k, but you can look at the pic here and see that $150k is completely reasonable as an average point for Marathon dev salaries.Now again, I invite you to tongue my anus.
>>736687839>hero shooters that started development at Fortnites hight of popularity to cash in on it have all flopped
>>736706101It's the 2020s version of the 2010s graveyard full of failed WoW clones.
>>736688481It looks fucking gay. To the typical gamer it looks just as gay as Concord.
>>736706084same names as in the destiny credits, you decided all by yourself that they were working exclusively on marathon for five years.
>>736688481This shit looks indistinguishable from apex legends or highguard..it's a hero shooter with ugly characters and a bright neon colorful art style where you wander around clusters of buildings looking at the floor for loot. The average person isn't going to pay a premium price for a game they have had for free 10 times already.>Ooh no but the aesthetic is ever so slightly different because it's inspired by industrial chemical labels or some shit noooooo!!
>>736705634>Bungie rejects rumorsalright, but what does Sony have to say about it?
>>736706129Except a lot of those WoW clones were actually fun and a lot of them didn't actually copied WoW and only shared a genre. I fucking miss the MMO rush so fucking much. Jumping into a new game every other week, returning to favorites, meeting people from other games, trying to get to tops of leaderboards. I don't think gaming will ever be better than that era for faggots like me.
>>736690363Eternal sold pretty well didn't it? Maybe there's a market there for a COMPETENTLY MADE Doom clone.Oh wait. Bungo has long since vented all it's competence.
>>736688481Not as feature rich as destiny which already was nowhere near as feature rich as halo reach or 3It's a downward trend, why settle for less? In 2010 this would have had a full campaign mode, multiplayer extraction, character customization, wacky mini games, theater replays, ingame clip and screenshot sharing ... The list goes onAlso it looks ugly as fuck
>>736706396ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS PROUD SPECIMEN ISN'T COMPETENT?????? RACIST?!?!?!?!?
>>736706441.....what the fuck is that thing
>>736706441>pitbull>lgbtwtfbbq+>FF7>chingero del fuego>nigga got a melon in his name
>>736706514The producer of Marathon 2026
>>736706514It gets funnier
>>736706368>>736706407Gaming was just better before normie millennials got into the industry. My generation has no creative talent or eye for fun.
>>736688481Kill yourself nigger
>>736706226Don't take it from me, here is confirmation from Marathon's game director:>https://youtu.be/eGvZtFJARaM?t=1524>'I want to say about four years' (development time>this was said a year agoAnd dev staff size:>https://youtu.be/eGvZtFJARaM?t=1534>"right now, we have not less than 300 developers on it'Now please try to dispute or ignore either of these, you worm.
>>736706441he's just a fag and seems to have deleted his twitter account three years ago, woke chuds getting desperate
>>736706641I would put money on that being the exact kind of person who shit their pants in rage and went to troonsky when Elon bought Twitter to 'protest.'
>>736706084your pic says $102k was average in 2025, idk why you're posting it as evidence that $250-300k is average
>>736702353Illiterate retard
>>736706732Oh sorry what I meant to post was "kill yourself shill"
>>736706641>I'm a gay faggot, living in gay city! I love my gay dogs, gay video games, the gay gym and my gay husband! #gaymer #gay #gayfitnessIs he gay or something?
>>736706795I'm sure he works really hard at his job at Bungie based on how his career seems so important to him. No distractions for him, hell no.
>>736706759>do "research" on average salaries>number you get is 1/3rd of what you claimed>somehow this is supposed to prove your point that 300k is a reasonable guesswhy stop at 300k, maybe $1 million is average you fucking retard
>>736706732Yes, average across the world and in certain expensive cities, like Seattle where Bungie is, the amount is much higher, as shown by that levels.fyi website.But you knew that already and are just trying to play dumb.
>>736706043Kek
>>736706934Go to any of the salary tracking websites today and they tell you the same thing about tech salaries in Seattle:>100k is the low endAnd nobody was saying 300k salaries, but I'm glad you're so mindbroken you're now trying to make strawmen to distract from how btfo you've gotten in this thread repeatedly.
>>736706630they weren't all exclusively working on marathon for that time. you're having a real difficult time understanding this, why? your salary calculations are poor too.>watch this youtube videono, i wont. you can stop posting that link.
>>736707016>here's a video of the game director for Marathon saying 'this is how many devs we've had and how long we've had them on the project'>..uh, I won't watch that video (because it's proof I'm wrong)Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic cowardice from you, shill-kun.
>>736706934You fucking moron, there isn't a single thing you've gotten correct all thread. The biggest blast anyone has had in relation to Marathon is us making fun of you in this thread.
>>736707085they weren't all working exclusively on marathon for that entire period of time. what were 300 people all doing on day one?>>736704296>God bless you clowns>>736704296>please pretend to be blind and deaf>>736705537>dipshit>>736706084>I invite you to tongue my anus.>>736706630>you worm.>>736707016>Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic cowardice from you, shill-kun.cope, child.
>>736707250that was the first post i made this thread, schizo, i'm happy to watch marathon crash and burn. but blaming the failure on inflated tech salaries is retarded when dumbass managers/execs wanting to change the direction of the game is why it took 6 years to crank out
>>736707371yes I'm sure you dropped in to make your very first post to pick up the argument this shill has been making for 4 straight hours
>>736707349>still can't refute anything>copeI accept your concession.And Ziegler said it was 300 for the majority of development, but that number both increases and decreases. 300 is the average.
>>736707371Oh don't worry anon, those retarded managers and execs have even more bloated salaries than the poor assholes making the game.
what's next for bungie?
>>736707349Be honest, why do you do it? Why do you shill for a shitty flop this hard?
>>736707559Layoffs, unironically. I don't see how Sony keeps paying for their 1000 people when none of Bungie's games are making money.
>>736707559Heavy layoffs and some more coping on social media.
Even if Marathon only cost $100M, it still only sold 1.2m copies at $40. They had to pay store fees to Steam and Xbox (likely 30% but maybe negotiated down to 20% at best) plus marketing. The game is a huge flop.
>>736707456300 is the average number of people that worked on marathon, but they weren't all exclusively working on marathon for that period of time. the numbers you came up with are based on all 300 people working exclusively on marathon, and being paid only to work on marathon. your poor calculations suggest these employees wouldn't have any crossover work with destiny or the incubation shit they were also working on during that same period of time. you're trying to convince yourself that an in-house tester, for example, would only work on marathon, and also make a high end tech salary.
>>736707810source?
>>736707810maybe those 25k players are spending hundreds of dollars each on skins for their troonbots
>>736707869This is what you're unable or unwilling to understand:>300 is the average>this means the team was sometimes smaller (like 100 people) or larger (like 400 people)>when someone's on a game project like this, they're committed to it (meaning they're either on or off the project) and not something like 'half my day is Marathon and half my day is Destiny' work>there wouldn't be crossover with Destiny because Destiny is what the OTHER 500 people at Bungie are working on, and if anything MORE people ended up moving from Destiny to Marathon because they delayed Destiny 2's patch in favor of MarathonAnd all of that doesn't even include the outsourcers (the indians and chinese) who worked on the game in the hundreds.>muh QA isn't highly paidAgain, this is where the concept of an average salary comes in. No, a QA person is not making what a software engineer does. So, a tester might make 80k while a software engineer is making $180k or more. The numbers used between them are averages.If you cannot grasp these basic concepts, you have only a life of menial labor or fast food jobs to look forward to.
>>736707581>Be honest, why do you do it? Why do you shill for a shitty flop this hard?your boys not very bright and he's numbers are poor. it's not my fault he's larping as an accountant, i'm just trying to help him.
>>736689302least Indian post on 4chan
>>736708097>that abysmal grammarHoly ESL. If the Marathon shills are also thirdies or brownoids, no wonder middle school math is completely beyond them.
>>736707810There is not a single way it only costs $100milSalaries alone push it above 100. Then you have to factor in>cost of the office itself>advertising>fees for software>hardware costs>outsourcing>QA>likely more I'm not thinking ofAll the while having to manage Destiny 2 which somehow has less players than Marathon.
>>736707980...for what exactly?
>>736707869Bungie has nearly 1000 employees my guy.300 is lowballing. That's the play it safe number.
>>736708205The source for copies sold was an estimate from a third party, not Sony.It was "confirmed" by Paul Tassi's Bungie insider that may or may not exist.
post yfw keeping it alive is just costing them more money
Are the historians laughing yet?
>>736708291Tassi's never been wrong about Bungie leak stuff, as far as I can remember.>>736708294>mfw
>>736708291and you think 1.2m is an unrealistic number because...?its humongous player count??
Newsflash: Marachads won big time. Experimental queue next week, hop in now while the getting's good!
>>736705693>ah, the good old days of 30k CCU>how long ago was that, pops?>Tuesday, like 48 hours agoJEJ
I think the big disconnect here is that the remaining players dont realize Marathon is a bad game
>>736708342>Tassi's never been wrong about Bungie leak stuffMost of his claims are generic whatevers.He never gives exact, he never calls anything out of left field, he never makes any "confirmed" statements that any ol' fella with a brain and access to the internet couldn't formulate.
>>736708381Clearly some of them do, because the game shrinks by about 1k-2k players a day on PC.
>>736708348I am making no claims about the accuracy of the 1.2mil copies. I am simply questioning the validity.Two different things.
>>736708381most of them are still playing just to defend $4b bungie from the chuds even after bungie spat in their faces for 10 years
>>736708403If he's leaking stuff ahead of time that ends up being generally accurate, it's safe to assume he has someone inside that gives him the data.And if he was full of shit, he would've been called on it years ago since Destiny 1 is over a decade old at this point.
>>736708443Tassi is a faggot but he has given no reason to doubt reports like this in the past
>>736708367Highguard was trying to be more experimental about 2 weeks before it got hit with the shutdown twitter post.>>736708468You can be accurate without having a proper source. Read my last post. He's making educated guesses without any specificity. Look at his recent statements regarding the cost of the game. He just says that it cost "more than 200 million". That is such a wide scope, it covers so many numbers. The real budget could be 201, 202, 203, etc. If he had said it cost 245million that would be more specific and therefore would make his source more valid.
>>736708612I know this will sound really dumb, but finding out how much a really big project actually cost isn't that easy. (There's rarely a big, accurate number sitting anywhere you can go reference.) $200m is on the low end, with $250 being probably true if you're just talking about staff salaries and excluding outsourcing, marketing, and operational costs.t. project manager in aerospace
>>736708612I should also clarify that simply saying $245mil wouldn't make him more believable as that number would also need to be verified. But he has made so many statements in the past and they are all very generic and wide reaching and I cannot find a single time he was specific and proven right.He is a very good analyst. He can read the room very well.
>>736704602MARATHONERS, BLAST OFF!
>>736688481Art theftNiche market, it's a miracle it did as well as it did when most newcomers to the extraction genre have failed horriblySometimes just good isn't good enough when your studio used to be legendary
>>736708693I run a restaurant that brings in roughly $1.2-1.3mil in a year. Our cheapo POS system that hasn't been updated in 15 years still allows us to look up any order from any day in those 15 years, we can print a report of our exact sales on any given time period, what product we used, what products we ordered, our repair orders, our random pay outs for like pizza for the team. It's all there.What do you mean you can't find receipts for millions of dollars? I think you might be a politician not someone that works with aerospace.
>>736708768I liked Titanfall 2 but I've seen nothing in Marathon besides guns existing that makes me think Titanfall.Elden Mario Valley of Tetris bros 3 can eat an obscured dick. Gay nigger games.
Did Bungie just think that people would buy their games because theyre Bungie?How do you explain such a complete miss
>>736709006>work on game for 3 years>miss current fad>quickly what new fad can we jump on>retool entire game>rework every asset from the ground up>barely squeak out a game in an already dying genreNo how could this fail?
>>736709006Every great studio goes through this phase. Nintendo did. Sega did. Activision, Square Enix, Capcom, Riot, Valve, etc. Soon, Rockstar will as well.
>>736709087Studios should at least do it for their smaller gamesLike valve with artishatOr riot with 2xkoBungie let fucking Destiny die before going all in on thisThats absurd
On Bluesky they’re blaming this game flopping on queerphobia and incel gamers not liking “androgynous aesthetics”
>>736709087>Soon, Rockstar will as well.They already got that out of the way with GSG
>>736709158Marathon is a smaller game for Bungie. Destiny was reportedly a $700M project adjusted for inflation.
>>736708768what in gods name do any of those games have to do with marathoon
>>736687839KWABOOTY
>>736709202I hate gays and queers but I'd never say Marathon is one of those things. I dislike it because it's not enjoyable. Controllers are overtuned, snipers are busted, thermals are busted, and i fucking hate the knife. Everyone should just use ARs or pistols.
>>736709087anything with the pokemon name on it sells like hotcakes
>>736689241>Y1 of Destiny 2That wasn't the only thing that was removed though. Putting aside that content being paid content until game came to Steam, they also removed Y2 seasons and raids from the game. Two of the best raids in the entire game was removed and the new raid wasn't good.Even that could be excused if atleast they had a good selection of weapons with enough elements to replace the ones that got sunset but there basically wasn't anything good to replace the old weapons.I wasn't a D1 player but I quit after doing day 1 DSC and came back to do day 1 VOG and it wasn't what it was cracked out to be.
>>736708812I'm not talking about finding individual orders, that's easy. I'm talking about getting a figure that accurately represents the entirety of a project involving hundreds of people, external companies, contractors, operational costs, and everything else. That info is spread across a dozen different departments that all collect and store it in their own way and only someone high up the chain (CFO, probably) could get the final, cumulative picture. Planes are harder to make than it is to run a restaurant.
>>736709261the Destiny money was not for Destiny 1 but rather the 10 year span that it was supposed to cover as a franchise. IIRC there was supposed to be a schedule for releases. Year 1 Game, Year 2 expansion, Year 3 game, Year 4 expansion, etc.This was to go on for 10 years when Activision could renew the contract. This obviously fell apart before it fell into place as we only got the first game and expansion with D2 not happening for a few more years.
>>736709295In absolute terms, Pokemon has been in a slow decline since the very beginning.
>>736709360My point with that post is that if a restaurant with a severely outdated computer system can keep track of 15 years worth of everything.I can literally go into the system and get anything. I could run a report that give how many pounds of a certain cheese we used during winters months only over 15 years.If I can do that how do you with a much larger project and much more at stake not have some parity in your project? You don't have one retard whose only job is to gather numbers and put them together? I don't care how complicated it is you are making it worse by not documenting properly.
>>736709376This doesn't look like a decline to me.You need to spend a bit more time looking at that data.
>>736709293>I hate gays and queersSure buddy sure...
>>736709554My mom calls me Faggot Slayer the Gilded One every night before tucking me in and kissing me.
>>736709539Math is hard, let him have his moment
>>736688282I thought about getting it off a key site but then I remembered I hate extraction shooters.
>>736709202I said this yesterday and I will say this again, liberals have ruined all forms of discussion not just politics but EVERYTHING because they employ the same shaming tactics they would for a chud to a person who disagrees with them over a video game. They have lost their fucking minds
>>736709630It's crazy to me how they couldn't like put in some shitty deathmatch mode at the least. Or just anything outside of the extraction.
>>736688282
>>736709353Sunsetting annoyed me because they flat out lied about how it was going to work with that old content occasionally coming back and you later learn their engine is so garbage they can't do that
>>736688481Genre has reached saturation point but retarded execs keep piling on because they're out of touch
>>736709715I didn't believe for a second that any of that content would come back and them getting sued because of Red War campaign further guaranteed it.At least, I made some money off retarded dad gamers who wanted raid exotics by playing on their accounts. webm unrelated
>>736709863I could never beat this part because my friends are mouth breathing retards and I have to hand hold everything they fucking do
>>736709483Oh, it's all documented in duplicate (or quadruplicate for government contracts), but putting it all together? That's something you don't need to do often and like I said, it's usually at the C-level when it's annual report time. And when it needs to happen, people scurry around and get data from all those teams, check it, and report it upstairs. There's not some giant computer screen where the project's total current budget is being tracked in real time. (Those dashboards exists but, again, that's all for the execs. And that data doesn't leak, because you'd get PIs and corporate lawyers crawling up your ass if you did.)
>>736709863raiding in this game was the strongest attack on my faith in other people's intelligence i've encountered onlineday 1s were worth tho
>>736688105What does kwab mean , kek what a bitch?
>>736708294
>>736709948Shame! The friends that I started with weren't that good at the game (neither was I when I came back to the game to be honest) but they bounced off quickly and I had to find other circles like /dg/ (which was another group of mouthbreathing retards for the most part) but eventually I got /in/ with speedrunners and had a great time.>>736710002Day 1s were fun but also some of the most ball bustingly annoying parts of the game. Like, in DSC, we didn't see Divinity bubble popping up under the boss, so I had to switch to Tractor Cannon and Slug Shotty and multiple times we wiped to final stand because of lack of special drops or Atraks-1 damage being rolled back.
>>736709863>Remove content from your game because the groundwork for your game is so awful that having extra shit in it damages the stability of the entire game>Some retard sues you for plagiarism over your launch content>Launch content you deleted from the game>Grab a bunch of LPs from streamers because you literally can't play the Red War anymore even though you're the devs>During discovery the judge tells you that third party shit isn't good enough>Marathon team flat out and unambiguously rips off another artist, literally putting stolen artwork into the game before the public beta>Sony tells you to make this go away so you have to pay out to some random retard who wrote what was basically a web novelIt's so fucking funny
>>736710258My friends are just lazy retards. They will put 100 of hours into a game like Destiny but put 0 hours learning about meta or builds or synergy loadouts. They want me to tell them what to do for everything. One retard never put mods into his armor because "it is too complicated"
>>736710431>One retard never put mods into his armor because "it is too complicated"if anything it was tediousconsole game, takes ages to do anything because you have to hold down a button for everything for some reasongame doesnt respect your time in the gameplay or in the menus
>>736710571initially when it cost materials it was annoying but conceptually it wasn't hard to understand at all. If I put this mod in I get a defense boost ok ill just do that then
>>736710767i wasn't disagreeing with youbut you reminded me of something elsethe descriptions in the game, especially around armor/mods, fail to explain what they actually doso much general incompetence surrounding d2you could go on and on but this is a marathon thread so I will shut up and sit back and continue to do nothing
>>736710862Thread is about to 404 anyway. See you in the next one
>>736710862Not only that but if you weren't keeping up with the changes, your good armor just became shit. I spent so much materials switching my elements around on my god roll armor, only for them to 1) make changing elements free 2) change how some stats work and make that same armor mediocre at best.
