Do you think Metroid is beyond recovery after the last failure?
wasn't it fastest selling metroid ever? how is that failure
It's beyond recovery because Nintendo clearly doesn't understand what people actually liked about the series and has been fucking it up in every single new entry after Zero Mission.
We moved on. Impulsehazard's all the rage now.
>Queen of gaming>no one bows in respectFuck this gay earth
>>736688384W-which one?
Okay listen close, I'll tell you have to save metroid. Reboot the series so that it's 99% the same as super metroid but this time Samus is a 12 year old girl instead of an adult woman. Trust me.
>>736688141It will be a 2D-only series from now on. Dread was a critical and commercial success.
>>736689282Fuck off, pedophile scum.
>>736689282Stay, pedophile chad
>>736689282>12 year oldmake that 10also give an oppai option
>>736688141guh
>>736689282also make it like princess maker
>>736688141No. It's also been 5 years since Dread. It's never been more over.
The last two 2D Metroid games were pretty well-received - if Nintendo knows what's good for them they'll remake Samus Returns for Switch 2 and get to work on Metroid 6 (which I'm sure they have already).3D Metroid needs to go from FPS to TPS. Prime has clearly run its course.
>>736688141https://files.catbox.moe/pechs8.mp4
>>736688141oh jeeez...
>>736688585yeah even the new 2D ones added analog aiming and cutscene bosses>>736692737>3D Metroid needs to go from FPS to TPShow would you want it to play? Like Returnal?
>>736696836Haven't played Returnal yet, maybe it's similar to my idea. They really could go multiple routes with a TPS Metroid and do just fine, but what I had in mind is something with more focus on satisfying movement and platforming. It'd probably be worth keeping the lock-on from Prime. Honestly, what I'd really like is not a TPS but a 2D Metroid in 3D. I know that didn't go so well with Other M but I still think it's possible.
>>736691618There were eight years between Super Metroid and Fusion/Prime 1.
>>736688141Hopefully the reception to the shitty movie pitch disguised as a game prevents Nintendo from doing something really stupid. Nintendo seems hellbent on giving Metroid their worst ideas.
>>736688141I think 2D Metroid is in a very good place. Only thing I want them to add for the next one is a proper escape sequence and better music.With Prime I can only hope that the dev team have nailed down all the things that went wrong with 4 by now. If they are mentally capable of that, then Prime 5 could be really good.
AI is never going to be able to do buildings without the windows looking retarded, is it?
>>736700038Just being by Retro from the beginning and not being a clusterfuck of shifting development and outsourcing would be a start.
>>736688141The prime series is fuckedRegular Metroid will only become more popular
If it can survive Other M it can survive this.
>>736700608Good. Prime fucking sucked.
>>736693394>no slamtease
dread was ok tho
>>736700125You could probably put any open world ubislop game with driving mechanics to the top and it would mog Metroid Bore
>>736688141Prime is probably toast. They'll keep the 2D alive for now.
>>736689282Can she be a human/chozo/metroid chimera that mutates to gain new powers?
>>736688141what prompt
>>736693394hngh
Samus but she is pregnant instead.
>>736688141which franchise improved on the switch? nintendo can’t make a good game anymore; it’s seriously over
>Last failure Didn't it sell really really well?
>>736688141After the last game i'm afraid that japs don't give a shit about MetroidFans have to do something to give value to the franchise
How come nobody complains about AI slop when it's a coomer post?
>>736693394>>736704439https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14636075
>>736688141How many times a day are you going to make this tranny thread? Metroid survived Other M and Federation Force, it'll survive this just fine.
>>736688384>>736712596Nope, its launch was borderline DoA compared to other Metroid games and it has yet to even match Prime 2, and it needed to do a lot better than 'well' to justify eight years of development hell and development outright starting over halfway through. The Prime series is likely done.
>>736700038>a proper escape sequence?
>>736710118No clue, it is from image search
>>736689282This
>>736701901Built for birthing every manner of alien lifeform.
Ninty blondes are the best in the business. They just need to focus on cooming them up and they will sell next time.
>>736688141>Last good Metroid was in 2004>7 Metroid games since then, only one was a Metroidvania, and it was basically just ticking boxes>>736692737TPS games suck ass and have always just been a way to mitigate how bad 6th gen controllers were at player-controlled 3D cameras.>>736698256The design constraint preventing "2D Metroid in 3D with satisfying movement and platforming" has always been the deficiency of purely analog stick focused control schemes, not the first person camera (and just to cut off Other M fags, the D-pad is also shit). I do not see "2D but actually 3D" Metroid working until mouse and throttle, or VR control schemes become dominant.>>736712596Dread sold well, Prime 4 didn't.>>736713489>Survive>22 year coma>One single muscle spasm interpreted as signs of consciousness
Sex with balls
>>736706446>>736701901>>736699070my erection is beyond recovery
>>736688141assfags are closeted gays
>>736688141just stick to 2D and maybe focus more on the speedrunning aspect of metroid.
>>736696836Just wondering what other m would be like if it was just a kino team ninja action game without nintendo meddlingI think that was after itagaki left though
>>736688384>just over 1 million sold against a $100M budget>Dread outsold it 3:1 and cost 1/3>critically underwhelming and disappointingIt flopped by all metrics.
>>736713520>The Prime series is likely done.Did you try making a prime game instead of putrid shit?
>>736720010I don't believe the 100M budget but I believe that the budget was so high that nintendo will never earn profit for prime 4
>>736721010This interviewer is the source for the $100M figure. Only Nintendo knows how much it really was and I don't expect them to ever reveal it but I can believe it was definitely the most expensive Metroid ever, with 4K and 120fps, probably the most expensive Nintendo game period. Graphics is the only thing everyone can universally agree didn't suck so that says something, Nintendo actually made Metroid into a moviegame!
>>736722646>4k 60FPSThis effectively doesn't matter.What matters is paying 2 different flailing studios to work on it for 8 years.
>>736722646Comparing NPCs in Breath of the Wild to Prime 4 is insane.
>>736717280Guys will really go on 4chan and post the darndest things
>>736688384>wasn't it fastest selling metroid ever?Prime 1 is in the top ten best selling Gamecube games of all time. Prime 4 didn't even make the top 100 Switch games despite being a first party game.
>>736700125Starfox is going to have a motorbike section too, isn't it?
>>736713520>>736720010Wait really? I did have my issues with Beyond and didn’t think it’d sell as much as the other Primes but after Dread’s success increasing sales of the franchise as a whole I expected at least something comparable to the Primes, even if falling the expectations
>>736706446Finally, some good fanart.
>>736713520>and it has yet to even match Prime 2Not a fair comparison, the GameCube was an extremely well selling console.
>>736723636Thanks for killing my erection again, I needed that.
>>736723636This artist started off with a nicely understated Samus body, then devolved her into a weird bimbo very quickly.
>>736722646>>736723515Comparing those Prime 4 NPCs to any other Metroid’s is insane.Seriously people criticize Prime 3 but aside their tutorial talk the other bounty hunters don’t waste words. Their dialogues serve a purpose for their personalities and later corruption. At most Gandrayda is playful with her quips but even that helps make her distinct.I liked them. And probably won’t ever get more Bounty Hunters like them again because of Prime 4’s travesty.
>>736723515What really grinds my gears about that tweet is that grand dogmatic declaration that "the days of Samus being completely alone...are over. You are NEVER going to see a Metroid game like those again."I don't know if that came from the dev team or he was editorializing but either way, fuck you. This quote reminds me of CD saying about Tomb Raider "dual pistols and shorts are done". What a way to boldly and grandly declare you are spitting in the face of your original audience, who supported the franchise the entire time, to chase a new fanbase that never gave a fuck about it. And pitching voice acting and dialogue as a "weakness" when that's exactly what makes Metroid refreshing to the people who like it, because it's not a fucking movie and puts the gameplay and atmosphere first.I can only hope they've internally second guessed this direction given how much of a flop the game has been and maybe the rumors of them returning to 2D for awhile will help if true. Because if not then it feels like we're watching Metroid die in real time and maybe it's just not for us anymore.
>>736723867Adventures was like a premonition of what's to come
Is this the agp thread?
>>736726040Actually Good Point? Nah, that tweet made Totally Terrible Point.
>>736720010>100M budgetThat doesn't sound right.
>>736724496That tweet felt more like a jab than anything positive. If the guy thought it was a good thing then fine everyone has their tastes I get people that want NPCs, I could have used more screen time for Quiet Robe in Dread for example.But wording it like that “your will NEVER have this again” felt like he was purposefully mocking the old playerbase and claiming Metroid up like Disney did to Star Wars
>>736688585idk why they don't just make an fps horror game like modern resident evil
>>736722646The guy who gave that budget calculates that Nintendo make about $20 per game, but that's more what a third party developer makes after costs, after the publisher gets their take and after the console manufacturer gets their take, no idea why he put out such blatantly wrong numbers.>I can believe it was definitely the most expensive Metroid ever, with 4K and 120fpsThat's savings though, games like God of War with it's 900@30fps standard target spend more on fancy graphics than a game that aims for lower fidelity assets but higher framerates/resolutions.
