>Japanese Console >Japanese aren't buying it>It's now selling as bad as Xbox PlayStation sisters... It's officially over. Nintendo won Japan. Switch 2 is going to be the home for Japanese games.
>Nintendo handhelds always do well in Japan>Nintendo stops making consoles and just makes handhelds>somehow this is considered winning when they quit their home market after getting egg on their face onceReal statement of confidence.
>>736733682Japanese console by ownership, but by design it's a lot Western. Designed by American Mark Cerny and it caters to the ball and gun audience.
>>736733682>sacrificing GTA VI so you can play Doki Doki Pop Plop
Japanese market isn't as important as it was a few decades ago it just keeps shrinking into irrelevance.
>>736733682Ps4 only sold like 9 million total in japan and still hit 120 units sold globally. Japan doesn’t matter for PlayStation like it does for Nintendo.
that's great honey, 99% of japanese devs make multiplat games
>>736733682The PS5 is an American console, and it's seen as a middle finger to Japan.
>>736733885Multiplat might not even be worth it anymore, switch 2 will have a lot of exclusive Japanese games.
>>736734068Japan likes to ride on my big American middle finger.
>>736733764To be fair, they did won 7th gen with the Wii.
>>736734127>did won
>>736734138>*checks performance of Cyberpunk & Elden Ring on the Shitchyeah its not a console
>>736733682Nintendo won Japan 10 years ago.>>736733764Switch will soon become the best selling console of all time. So they won every market in the world? Handhelds are best selling hardware in every market?
>>736733862The US market, you mean?US January (Circana):>PS5: ~190K>NS2: ~185KUS February (Circana):>PS5: ~270K>NS2: ~230KJapan January (Famitsu):>NS2: 523.019>PS5: 77.451Japan February (Famitsu):>NS2: 272.729>PS5: 48.109
>>736734383>Switch will soon become the best selling console of all timeThey'll have to combine switch 2 and switch 1 sales, nintendo does have a history of doing that so it'll probably happen.
>>736734350you lost. Nintendo won.
>>736734350Both run better than on PS4. PS4 is not a console?
>>736733682That's why they're giving up on normalfags and creating the Canis. They know their western branch fucked everything up, now they have to repair it. The focus is going to heavily be on the types of games we got on the PS1-early PS4 along with PSP and PS Vita along with being able to natively play PS1-PS3, PSP, and Vita games through emulation, and BC with PS4 and PS5 while being able to natively play PS6 games. The Canis will release at an affordable price of $550. It'll be a PS6 in your hands. They're not going to beat Nintendo, but they want to try to regain what they lost and rebuilt third party relationships that they lost because of their dumb western branch who were fixated on Xbox and only Xbox.
>>736734542the only thing being lost here is your missing FPS
>>736734597ps4 is 2012 era tablet hardware
>>736734497not verified numbers btw>>736734597ps4 was running elden ring before switch 2 was.
>>736734504If they combined Switch and Switch 2 they would’ve crossed 160 million half a year ago.And no, Nintendo never did such a thing, unlike Sony with PSP and Vita or combining PS4 and PS5 software sales
>>736734646Switch 2 still runs them better.
>>736734661>Nintendo never did such a thingGameboy and gameboy color sales have been officially combined on nintendo's website for over 20 years despite them releasing a decade apart and one being a significant hardware leap over the other with exclusive games and a notable performance and spec improvement.
>>736734712They didn’t exactly have an easy time getting it on it. RE4 remake can run on a phone, does that make it a console?
>>736733682Nips got shafted by price increase the most.Also snoy is mostly making movie games for western audience, yet another no games machine.
>>736734870Schizo babble. I bet you’ve liked seeing PlayStation sell over 100m with almost each console they’ve ever made
>>736734747Game Boy Color is a Game Boy Pro.>one being a significant hardware leap over the other with exclusive gameslmaoThe power boost was tiny. Smaller than new 3DS which also had games that weren’t compatible with OG 3DS.It was on level of DSi (which als had exclusive games)
>>736733764>d-d-doesn't countEvery time.
>>736734870>t-they don’t count!Every time.
>>736734813You are the one who said running Cyberpunk and Elden Ring poorly means it’s not a console, retardo. No one said anything what makes something a console, moron.And no, iphone runs RE4 worse than PS4 and soon Switch 2 (just like with RE7 and 8), idiot
>>736734870Niggy, there was no price increase in Japan. The Japan only model still costs the same as it did in November. It’s just that no one in Japan wants it.
>>736735060>ports its comebackssad
So now what? Does it means more games for me to play? How does this benefit me in any way?
>>736733682I don't play sales, retarded bootlicker
>>736733790gta 6 will be shit.
>>736735296Yes, Japanese developers currently graduating from universities never heard of a Playstation
>>736734138Its fisherprice tablet
>>736735339>I don't playWe know, PS5 owner lmao
>>736734497>what is it with toddlers and obsession with slopitsu?
>>736733764>Sony stopped making consoles and just makes gimped PCs>somehow this is considered winning>think they can make a successful handheld even as people remember the Vita debacle>all that money wasted on telling jamboys to convince everyone that PS is here to stay
>>736733682the japanese are primarily phone gamers, apple is the biggest threat to nintendo for this very reason.
>>736735481>weCollectivist cattleAnd can your fisher price tablet play modded minecraft or any old game, non ported indieshit? No? Thought so.
>>736735446Air humidifierhttps://youtu.be/sW3TERB4zXI?si=g33RL9MKwyiSaBwP
>>736735093So re4 remake being on phone means a phone is a console technically speaking
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>>736733682Japan always favored handhelds so it makes sense, also helps that the PS5 is crazy expensive in Japan since they raised the price a shit ton over the years which detracts people from buying it. Even the region locked PS5 costs more than a regular PS5 did at launch.
what causing so much seethe over playstation on this board?
>>736734632i prefer having games. thank you.
>>736735446and the shitstation 5 is shit netbook with nogaems.
>>736735836>video game console>no gamesProbably that.
>>736735960Thousands of game on its store.
>>736735917Astro bot, ghost of yotei, and demons souls remake.>t-those don’t count!Delicious cope.
>>736733682Bad business to bet it all on westoid shit considering Japanese games are in another golden age now. Hopefully the backpedal and go back to being a Japanese company (I doubt it).
>>736736001Yet no one plays them. It's a CoD/Fortnite/Genshin machine.
>>736736001all of them on pc.
>>736736059So it has games
>>736736043>6 years>3 gamesHot damn.
>>736734930>Game Boy Color is a Game Boy Pro.No, it's a different generation of game boy objectively speaking. Why get so defensive over this?
>>736736084Except for>>736736043Also I have a fun time running big PC games on PS5. Thx very much PC fattie
>>736736043WOW, 3 GAMES.one astroturfed casualized Mario sunshine, one tranny game and one game that killed its studio.Snoys sure are having a blast with all that!!
>>736736092Games I wouldn't be proud of, but sure.
>>736736113A lotta talk coming from someone who hasn’t even played Elden Ring because it’s not on his console. Kek. You truly have no games, salty tendie.
>>736736001Yeah it's full of absolute classics
>>736734641And PS4 is not a conosole, I accept your concession, keep seething malding and balding
>>736736201>200+ hours on my Steam DeckYet I'm the tendie. But now you're convincing me to double dip.
>>736736254>not 67¢Why bother?
>>736735550she's mad, keep seething bitch
Japanes got high IQ. When they saw Sony betray Japan over and over they put Playstation on that boycott list for life.
>>736735836Console warriors have to pretend there's still a war going on because their entire personalities are based on supporting a brand. Sony and Nintendo aren't even in the same market right now. You have weirdos still doing the Sega vs Nintendo thing on /vr/ too, the Sony vs Nintendo guys are the same as them.
>>736733764fpbp
>>736736276Yes, you can still be a Tendie, and Nintendo hasn't even put Elden Ring on your favorite storefront yet. No games hawnestleeeeeee
>>736734813>>736735642It does. Nintendo lost. Threads about smartphone hardware sales any day now.
>>736734138If it's a console then where is their handheld?
>>736736446>Sony and Nintendo aren't even in the same market right nowYou're right. Sony stopped making games.
>>736736257and an iphone is a console because it can run re4 remake
>>736736576it's a hybrid console.keep crying.
>>736733764FpbpTendies seething in this thread
>>736736590Not true at all. You've already admitted it has games so why keep lying? Are you that mindbroken? But seriously Sony and Nintendo compete in kind of entirely different categories now.
>>736736603iPhones can emulate Switch games as well as every old Nintendo games. The ultimate cope on /v/ is pretending phones aren't going to supplant all console gaming eventually. Phone and PC will be all that remain, Nintendo and Playstation are both pivoting to turn their games into multimedia franchises for this exact reason.
>>736736652What market? Sony's not even gonna be able to sell their next no games machine
>>736735550This guys all over the place>can your fisher price tabletstart by calling it childish>play MinecraftGoes straight for a game that every kid owns.>modded minecraftrealises that it has Minecraft and adds the stipulation of making it modded>or any old gameforgets the entire switch catalogue works>non portedexcludes ports when the switch has indie games made specifically for it. >indieshitshows resentment for the games he's bragging about the switch apparently not having
>>736736728The market they're in now. PS5 has sold 92.2M units despite your schizo babble with the same exact strategy.
>>736736556Looks like I'm preordering Elden Ring Tarnished Edition for the Switch 2. Thx for the moral boost.>>736736664>still porting comebacksPathetic. also >>736736617(samefag)
>>736736796Did you even see the poll? If PS6 is $1000 then only 5% are gonna buy it.
>>736736782>SnipperChads
>>736736864Big if. Kepler L2 (watches AMD supply chains closely) says the cost to manufacture PS6 is 760 and 699 is highly possible with subsidies.
>>736736001"No games" had always, always been universally understood to be referring to exclusives from the inception of the meme and no one would ever have entertained multiplats as any sort of counterargument if we hadn't reached the current point of consoles (generally) having so few exclusives that it's become more sad than funny
>>736736728NTA, I'm the guy from >>736736446 . The Playstation and Switch console lines get different games, even in regards to third parties. Until Sony has their handheld out, they are 2 separate markets. If you want to play certain games, the Switch line of consoles is just not an option at all. PC/PS/Xbox have a lot of overlap, those are the ecosystems you consider if you want AAA games.
>>736736946Doesnt matter. people from all consoles buy third parties, so they count as games
>>736736946Hence the decade-long meme
>>736736919So PS6 would lose 40% players, that'd be like 36 million. That's Xbox numbers...
>>736736606>hybrid consoleMarketing cope.
>>736737040that is without considering what the handheld could do for it though, as it likely could be cheaper.what exactly is that chart trying to say?
>>736736958>those are the ecosystems you consider if you want AAA games.That's because Sony fanboys keep coping about GTA 6 being day 1 on Nintendo. For casuals that's the only game that matters, they could play that until Switch 3 is out and Playstation will be a complete non-factor, money saved so they can spend it on a camera or beer money.
>>736735186>no price increase! >5 different price increases happen >sony tries to copy nintendo with a JP exclusive version of the console >its still far more expensive than an original launch PS5 while also being ONLY DIGITAL and being region locked
>>736737106>that is without considering what the handheld could do for it though, as it likely could be cheaper.NS2 will have sold like 60 million by the time PS6 comes out and that's if it's not delayed or whatever. My bet right now their handheld gets cancelled because it'd interfere with PS6.>what exactly is that chart trying to say?Poll asking people what price they would buy PS6 at.
>>736737004In the context the meme refers to (and, again, had always been understood to refer to until very recently in the grand scheme of things) not really
>>736737017Its been funny watching the cultists desperately try to turn the "no games" meme around onto nintendo consoles, only for nintendo to always have more exclusives
>>736737129I would be shocked if Rockstar can get GTA 6 to run on the Switch 2's handheld mode at release, moreso GTAO2 with all the players on screen. Really, the Switch version would work under the same principle as the PC version in that it's something a lot of people would double dip on since it's portable. So delaying the release makes sense to not only make sure it runs but to catch double dippers that want portable GTA 6.>they can spend it on a camera No normalfag is buying an actual camera over just using their phone.
>>736737098It's accurate though.A console is traditionally TV only.A handheld is in the name.Switch does both without buying extras so it's a hybrid.
>>736733682And tendies in the US are subsidizing it LMAO. Imagine being a tendie in 2026.
>>736737228so 85 percent of people would buy it if its 750 or below then?>>736737228and so what? that doesnt mean ps6 handheld wont be a successful sku alongside the home version
>>736733682Feel nothing but pity for the Japanese who can only experience the worst versions of new games and baby bing bing games.
>>736737276at that rate, what console has games? theyre all abysmal and are pivoting to being third party storefronts with exclusives sprinkled in
>>736737328>moreso GTAO2 with all the players on screen.Xbox series s/NS2 online most likely>Really, the Switch version would work under the same principle as the PC version in that it's something a lot of people would double dip on since it's portableLate ports always lose money. If it's not day 1 on the platform I own why the fuck wouldn't I just pirate it for free later? Denvuo can't protect games anymore
>>736734383>soon become the best selling console of all timeno its not kek
>>736737495Xbox series S cpu is on par with PS5/X. Thats the difference. Switch 2 isnt even close to any of those
>>736737129The sony fanboys also keep trying to pretend GTA6 isn't ever going to release on PC shortly after it comes out, if it doesn't release on day 1 due to rockstar's insane budget and all the issues while making itThey also don't seem able to see the pattern that rockstar has done like 5 times now>rockstar releases a version for the current playstation/xbox>its gimped to run on it >a few months later the PC version is released and its better in every way>when the next playstation/xbox releases they release a version of the game thats closer to the PC version
>>736737519The Europe version of the original Switch is going to be discontinued most likely before Feb 2027 as well due to it being cheaper to quit selling it than to redesign it, as it's 9 years old already.
>>736737098it's both. it's literally that.It comes out of the box with everything you need to play in all modes and their games are console tier.keep coping and seething.
>>736737384>so 85 percent of people would buy it if its 750 or below then?No way. Completely different price category compared to PS4/PS5>>736737558I'll give it 12 months tops, that'd be holidays 2027 at the latest. Enough time to optimize everything and have a second good boost.
>>736736153>tranny game>post a literal tranny nupokemon gameoh no no no
>>736733764handhelds are their home marketnon-handheld consoles are going extinct
>>736737643then theyll just sell the handheld for cheaper than the home that can also be docked. could come in at 599
>>736737495>Xbox series s/NS2 online most likelyThe Series S absolutely curb stomps the Switch 2's portable mode. I don't think you realize how poor the portable modes power is, even Cyberpunk drops to 450p in it and that's a single player game with NPCs and objects removed, an online open world game full of tons of players is probably not going to run on the Switch 2 in portable mode. I'm legitimately thinking it would be unplayable at around 15 fps or even worse and I'm being completely serious here. The Switch 2 version would need A LOT of optimization so day 1 is something I would completely rule out. It'd be a late port for sure, if it does get ported.
>>736737442Most of them until the past ~6 years + whatever Nintendo continues to do since (regardless of whether they're to one's taste) their exclusives observably drive hardware sales more than other console manufacturers'
>>736736673Bro I'm so fucked, I was more excited for her mom's leg and foot reveal. I need to stop using the Internet.
>>736737384>that doesnt mean ps6 handheld wont be a successful sku alongside the home versionSony fucked up by making their image focused around good graphics and the notion of a "premium" console. The PS5 is really expensive right now, somehow higher than when it launched 6 years ago. When the PS6 comes along it's going to be a near impossible sell to chase both the handheld audience, improve graphics and still be something people can afford.Fanboys would reject the console if it didn't improve graphics, it's moth to a flame for most of them.People looking for a handheld already have multiple others from either the switch itself or with their steam library accessible.If the handheld part is sold separately then what is already set to be an expensive console will become even worse.Realistically, they're fucked.
>>736737759And why would someone buy a PS handheld with no games?>>736737774Cyberpunk engine is shit compared to RAGE
>>736737924The same reason they bought PS5 with what you also say has nothing.>>736737924Doesn't matter. You can't really scale CPU like GPU.
>>736733790>Doki Doki Pop PlopMight even have more replayablility than GTA6 without having to take out a lifetime subscription wich happens to be index linked to the market price for your vital organs
>>736737983>The same reason they bought PS5 with what you also say has nothing.PS5 didn't have to compete with NS2 for 5 years, PS6 isn't getting that luxury. Since day 1 it's gonna have to face NS2 with NS1 BC and every NS2 exclusive. It's gonna look like shit in value because it is.
>>736734646>not verified numbers btwYOU are are verified though, Jam Boy
>>736738086The problem is that soon enough the Switch 2 is going to be barely running third parties. As it is a lot of them are 30fps, a whole generation behind. Lots of people are not going to put up with that. And Sony is backing away from PC which will strengthen their brand and ecosystem.
>>736737924>Cyberpunk engine is shit compared to RAGEOpen World games are all CPU bound and many of them are having to retool their ports for the Switch 2 and we're seeing even games like Elden Ring which runs on PS4 get delayed because of this.The way to look at the Switch 2 development, is that it's actually very similar to the Xbox where devs have to make 2 versions, one for docked mode and one for handheld mode and the handheld optimizations are going to be what ends up getting games delayed in the same way the Series S did for Xbox. Handheld mode is the best part of the Switch 2, but it's a double edged sword when it comes to day and date releases for AAA games. That's why the Switch 2 will still be an auxiliary console like the Switch 1 was, you own it along with whatever you play the bigger multiplats on.
>>736738247That last sentence is a brutal trvth that tendies are having a hard time accepting.
>>736738169Third parties will be targeting the platforms that sell to the greater audience, and those platforms will NOT have a playstation logo on them, because Sony have SHIT in their own shoes and still chosen to wear them.
>>736738169Delusional.>>736738247The different is RAGE is way more scaleable and optimized and NS2 has already shown it's capable of open world games like Shadows.
>>736738389PS6 will have a fine audience though. PS6/Handheld will be quite competitive. PS6 will target higher end specs and handheld will be the cheap option.>>736738391I was correct though.Doesn't matter once again about the engine, CPU doesn't really scale like GPU can. This is where Switch 2 will run into issues.
>>736738391>The different is RAGE is way more scaleable and optimized and NS2 has already shown it's capable of open world games like Shadows.You are again comparing a single player game that had NPCs removed for stability to a game that will have online play with up to 30 players unless they need to limit the number of players on Switch 2 which would make it the worst version to play. I'm not sure why this is hard to understand.
>>736738498Nah you'll be out of work lad, shit's fucked and has been since PS3Take up woodwork or something
>>736738515You're creating imaginary problems where there is none and it's not how businesses work, bro. If Take-Two in the first says day 1 on Nintendo then it is, Rockstar has no choice.
>>736738654How did that work out for Borderlands 4?
>>736738627i will be boughteding ps6 or handheld day 1
>>736738679>game that barely runs on 5090s can't run on the Switch 2More at 11
>>736738786it can run on ps5 though
>>736738786Take Two told Gearbox to get it working on Switch 2 on day 1. That didn't exactly pan out now, did it?
>>736738679>what about SHIT game 5???Oh no lmao
>>736733682Playstation was a brand built on the backs of Square and Capcom. Neither are releasing earth-shattering hits in Japan as they once did in the 90s. The decline of those games in Japan started by the end of PS2 life/start of PS3 life with DS taking Japan by a storm, and the fact is Sony never really recovered the lost market shareVita was released and it could be moderately successful in Japan eventually if it had a proper Monster Hunter, but it bombed so hard elsewhere it became impossible to keep the console afloat. By the early 10s smaller third parties at the time were refusing to create games for PS4 and wanted Sony to keep producing PS3 (long dead console that never really take off in first place) and Vita, simply because those consoles were cheaper to develop forSony was slowly becoming a brand to play AAA games and western games, and even this niche they are losing to PCs since the end of PS4 life. It will be interesting to see of they can recover anything
>>736733764>t.
>>736738963ps5 ran it
>>736739020It's gotten so bad, even Sony's own subsidiaries skip PS5 for games. I remember playing shit like Ghost in the Shell in the 90s on PS1
>>736739053It's the everlasting games that matter, not the shit games. The biggest games like GTA 6 being day 1 on Nintendo will seriously hurt Playstation permanently and they can't recover the damage.
>>736739182forgot image.
>>736739053Don't even need to watch the video to get the gist of it.
>>736739209That's quite a bold statement. I just don't know what would lead you to believe it will be there on release.
>>736733764>This is what songs actually believe
>>736739209also it just goes to show how hard of a time the switch 2 is having with even current gen games>>736739250even worse with switch 2
>>736739351Rent free. The fucking game is abyssmal, it runs like shit on everything. There's no "worse on...." distinction. It's Randy fucking up another one any you're using it as ammunition when there's absolutely nothing else.
>>736739294Because launching only on Xbox and PS is risky AF. 2 billion dollars, man, Imagine sinking that money into a game and then one of the consoles die and the other one is underperforming and the console you're not on is breaking records. It's just simple math at that point. >>736739351>also it just goes to show how hard of a time the switch 2 is having with even current gen gamesRent free. By the time companies make a next-gen game Switch 3 will be out lol
>>736739507there is a worse on distinction. ps5 and xbox run it at 60fps target meanwhile they couldnt even get it on switch 2.
>>736739545they can easily make back 2m dollars on ps5 and xbox alone. it will sell 50m fairly quickly. >>736739545eh, not necessarily. COD and sports stuff release yearly
>>7367396322b*
>>736739632>it will sell 50m fairly quickly.Not without NS2
>>736739572You're so fucking ignorant, they couldn't get it to that target.You don't even know anything about the game your propping up
>>736739856yes it will. rockstar ignored the 100m install base of the wii. switch 2 wouldnt sell that much anyways due to audience differences and how gta 6 has been presented as a PS game mainly so far. much like re9. the gap would look the same as that if not worse
>>736739858still better than switch 2.
>>736739951And yet I played RE9 on Nintendo. Funny how that works.
>>736740010Switch 2 is better than YOU, jamboy
>>736740057doesnt change what will happen at large. ps5 whooped the switch 2 for that games sales just due to brand association and such. gta 6 on switch 2 would be a waste of resources and would gimp the game past it's main draw
>>736740093Sony can’t compete on the same level with Nintendo anymore. They lost vs NS1, they're losing vs NS2.
>>736740057I dunno why you guys keep bringing in RE9 when the RE Engine is so scalable that the modern RE games are on mobile. It's one of the best engines for Switch 2 ports because it's used to running on low TDP ARM platforms.
>>736740148doesnt change what would happen with gta 6. ps5 would absolutely destroy the abysmal sales that the switch 2 would move. not even worth a port. capcom gimped their main entry and catered to tendies and they still barely bought the fucking game in their home country
>>736740093PS5 got whooped in global sales, even with a 4-month advantage and winter LIQUIDATION sales, NS2 still won 2025You need to find a better grift, Jamboy, because your employer is going bankrupt
>>736740270again see>>736740220
>>736740176Because so is the new RAGE engine. Really it's because the mandatory xbox series s support, at least Microsoft did something right even if it's just gonna help Nintendo in the end.>>736740220Nintendo stealing tons of sales from PS HW sales will hurt Sony more than anything else.
>>736740279GTA6 doesn't even exist you fucking dreamerLike I said, better look for another job
>>736740365It's all he can think of for almost a decade now.
>>736740352>Because so is the new RAGE engine.None of those are on ARM devices with such a low TDP and Rockstar is making open world games which require more processing power. It's astounding how people can know so little about hardware yet speak so confidently about something they truly know nothing about.
>>736740352again, series s cpu is on par with ps5/xbox x.>>736740365>>736740441maybe. maybe not. doesnt change the future of third party on switch 2. its just now getting ps4 ports and its not even getting borderlands 4 and First Light just got delayed to an unknown date
Nintendo's getting more games than PlaystationThis the evolution of Switch 2 catalog month by month.Number of Switch 2 Releases by month:June: 34July: 13August: 11September: 19October: 19November: 25December: 30January: 27February: 46March: 42Total: 266February was the biggest month of the system with 46 games.March was also above 40 games so now Switch is getting more games on monthly basis than on it's launch month.Number of releases on first 12 months:Switch: 470PS5: 420Xbox Series: 401Wii: 317Switch 2: 281+PS4: 1833DS: 179GBA: 178WiiU: 172Xbox one: 170
>>736740529>again, series s cpu is on par with ps5/xbox xUbisoft worked around it just fine and they explained how.
>>736740628did they make gta 6?>>736740543so multiplats count now?
>>736740714>did they make gta 6?Shadows isn't on older tech so it's the closest game to compare GTA 6 to. I'm sorry if this ruins your dreams.
>>736740628The guy you're arguing with is illiterate. Notice his sentence structure, only punctuation being full stops. No capitals except for "First Light" because he copied it from another tab.Almost all his posts don't address the one he's replying to, like he can't read. Instead he just making up points that are usually disproved or such bullshit that the other posters give up arguing.It's either an actual child or someone with the mental capacity of one.
>>736740773shadows isnt going to have an expansive online component or be as CPU dependent as GTA 6. shadows also wasnt running RTGI on switch 2
>>736740529Nothing you say changes the future of Sony you fucking bald faggot. You have no influence, no balls, no hair follicles, no game. Even people who like Sony think you're an embarrasing cunt. Use the rest of your life to learn a useful skill that doesn't make a random South American want to shoot you, for fuck's sake.
>>736740810I know. He's gonna be so angry when GTA 6 is announced.
>>736740884i own all platforms. im just being realistic
>>736740871i will be boughteding ps6 on release
]>>736740985Post pics faget>>736741301No you fuckin won'tAnd that goes for the other cunt I quoted
>>736741380you post it and get yourself doxxed if you want. no thanksyes i will. i cannot wait on Canis
>>736741418>yes i will. i cannot wait on CanisYes, when ARE you going to suck those dog dicks? You're well past due for that.
>>736741550i didnt say that but canis is going to be epic.
Can't stuck corporate cock harder than being hyped from only a name and claiming it'll be epic.
>>736733682its almost like they havent even made anything good for 6+ yearsgod I fucking hate sony
>>736733682OK. The Switch 2 is not selling well outside of Japan though.
>>736741715its going to be pretty cool, anyone telling you otherwise is salty
>>736742017You don't know anything about it. Saying it's cool because of nothing tangible whatsoever only highlights how stuck in your own delusions you are.
>>736742146we have seen the leaks and the capabilities of it specifically being backwards compatible with ps4/ps5 library. also Physint and Spiderman 3
>>736742209Fucking illiterate kid, grasping for leaks as facts, making claims of things that don't exist and clearly copying games from lists where you, once again, don't know anything about them. Only one of those games has even been announced.
>>736733764>console handhelds aren't consoles according to /v/ autists>Switch isn't somehow a home console alongside of being handheld console because westerners really fucking dislike the idea of Nintendo competing on the same grounds as Playstation>still perpetuating the false narrative that Japan is obsessed in handhelds when home consoles still did relatively well like the PS4 (took a while to take off there compared to previous PS systems but it was nowhere as bad as the PS5)
>caco spergout-593723 karma to ziony
>>736741616As epic as Sony's last handheld lolToo shit to even release official final numbersGOD LOVES A TRYER THOUGH
>>736733764Home consoles are dying, on a vocal minority of retards here in the US is still pushing for them. Handhelds are the future. The best thing about the handheld era is that normalfags hate them so when Sony releases their $550, and Valve releases their $550 Deck successor, these normalfag retards won't be around, the handhelds will be niche while normalfags will be too poor and stupid to own the PS6 home console and or the Steam Machine which both will cost $700.
>>736742209>Spiderman 3Marvel is fucking dead, who gives a shitSony is TEN YEARS LATE with absolutely EVERY IDEA THEY HAVE, I mean HOLY SHIT it's not even funny anymore
Handhelds won japan. Nintendo makes handhelds and sony doesn't
>>736743089Nintendo fucked up by cannibalizing their handheld market to make up their home console losses. They made more money with the Wii U + 3DS sales than they did with just the Switch.
>>736743089Games won Japan. Form factor doesn’t matter as long as there are good games.That’s why Vita flopped and Splatoon on Wii U outsold almost every PS4 game in Japan.
>>736744337>They made more money with the Wii U + 3DS sales than they did with just the Switch.Fucking RETARD!
>>736744337Oh man, so If the PS5 is such a success then why do they need to split their efforts with the PS6? Huh? They're already hoping we don't notice that THEY'VE STOPPED REPORTING PS4 SALES NUMBERS because THEY'VE BEEN LYING ABOUT HOW SHIT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR TWENTY YEARS NOWYOu know why they don't report PS4 Numbers? Because they make up half of those 90m+ "PS5" numbers LOLWe won't ever get REAL numbers for that shit because they're TOO ambarrasing, just like how we don't get VITA NUMBERSAnd these fuckers think they can make another attempt at a handheld work AFTER GETTING RAPED TWICE ALREADY by a company that they would have you belive THEY defeatedSony had SEVEN attempts at destroying NintendoNIntendo beat them 4/7 times: (GBA, DS, WII, 3DS) now they are killing them with Switch 1 and 2, and Sony have not learned anything about how to make a handheld or succesful coonsole, even when they actually managed to make a potentially successful handheld or console, they STILL have learned FUCKING NOTHING, they are stupid insectsTHIS IS WHAT DEFINES SONY AS A COMPANYTHEY ARE TOO STUPID TO LEARN ANYTHING AND SO ARE THEIR FANS
Remember when people were pushing that Sony doesn't even care what Nintendo does, but now that the PS6 will allegedly have a portable version, they've pivoted to "HA, NINTENDO'S GONNA GET ITS LUNCH EATEN"
>>736745648They quit selling the PS4 years ago schizo
>>736745992Sony has been pretending noit to be scared of everyone else since Microsoft made them shit their pants with their ambition to rule the living room entertainment space. Sony have been evacuating their bowels ever since then. MS has been the best "Enemy of my Enemy" Nintendo could hope for.
>>736745992Hi Shigeru you guys better be cookin up some new gimmicks asap
>>736745992Same thing happened with Nintendo making Japan only Switch 2.First, poor Sony was forced to raise the prices of PS5 because the yen got weak and they couldn’t do anything about it.Then, Nintendo was evil for releasing a Japan only model and “subsidizing it by making Switch 2 more expensive in other countries”.Then, Sony is the best for stealing Nintendo's idea. Soon they will close the Californian office, move back to Japan and reestablish Japan Studio! Nintendo is finished!In the end Japan only PS5 completely flopped. It was especially funny because the new Japanese CEO actually wanted to fix their situation in Japan but was met with complete and utter apathy after Sony shat on their Japanese audience for the past 15 years
>>736746501PS5 is outselling Switch OLED in Japan, a Western console beating a legacy Japan console on it's home turf.
I can't understand consolewars, what the fuck does that do? This isn't about "Yeah Nintendo/Sny made money to make games i like" it' "Nintendo/Sony is beating sony/Nintendo" what's the point of this? What if Nintendo won japan? It's not bringing back Ape escape or convincing Nintendo to make a new F Zero, I get getting happy about your favorite game selling well but starting to numberfag like a powerscaller is way too autistic to me
>>736746581wow neat can you show the sales numbers of all consoles over there please?
>>736746678sure top 3 skusswitch 2ps5switch oled
>>736747006why aren't you showing the sales numberswas it close?
>>736747151no it wasnt but switch 2 is being sold at huge losses and its selling the most. which might not be good
>>736746254Convenient excuse for not reporting the numbers.Because you know damn well those "PS5" numbers include everything else they sell.When Sony noticed that the PS3 was doing shit, they hid the numbers by merging PS2 and PS3 into the "Home COnsole Entertainment Division", and only un-merged those numbers when they were big enough to boast about. They had to throw a fortune at it, though, since they didn't bank on the XBox 360stealing their lunch. OOPS.They fudged the numbers again with the PSVita and PS4, but we don't get to see final PSVita numbers because they couldn;t even be bothered to rescue it. Imagine getting dicked down by the fucking 3DS.Fast-forward to now, and the PS5 is seeing a similar raping by the Switch. Even that time-tested method of merging PS4 sales numbers since the launch of the PS5 can't make the dehumidifier look good. The Emperor's new clothes are plain to see, and there are no more tricks to use.Sony is ten years too late to make a hybrid; Nintendo already captured the market.Sony is also too late to capture the PC handheld market. They didn't do enough to cultivate it versus Steam.Sony are too late to compete with Steam. But they're stupid and confident enough to think that they they can on brand recognition alone.
its over
>>736747295The ps4 hasnt been sold for years retard. Also Playstation can easily wreck the Steam deck and all the competitors combined, so what you said is insanely false.And lots of people want a PS handheld.
>>736746581Not him, but here you goSwitch 2 – 59.543 (5.011.059)Switch – 16.342 (36.701.338)PlayStation 5 – 13.539 (7.500.517)Sales by each SKUSwitch 2 – 59.543 (5.011.059)PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 12.141 (1.248.515)Switch OLED Model – 7.468 (9.526.329)Switch Lite – 4.807 (6.903.964)Switch – 4.067 (20.0271.045)PlayStation 5 Pro – 840 (341.548)PlayStation 5 – 558 (5.910.474)PS5 is selling like shit
>>736747420its not doing bad because in reality being the best seller in a losing money region is not necessarily a good thing. the switch 2 selling that much is kind of quite bad honestly because of how much theyre losing on it.
>>736747387>VGSHARTZ>FEBYOU DIG THROUGH YOUR OWN SHIT, TRYING TO FIND NUGGETS OF GOLDBut you never ate anything good.
>>736747387>VGChartz
>>736746629It's tribalism, real fans wouldn't cqre about a company doing poorly because they'll be forced to be more consumer friendly, see Nintendo during the wii u/early switch era that gave us gold points and vouchers, all removed now
>>736747151Switch 2 – 59,543PS5 digital – 12,141Switch OLED – 7,468Switch Lite – 4,807Switch – 4,067PS5 Pro – 840PS5 – 588Xbox Series X – 525Xbox Series X Digital Edition – 278Xbox Series S – 129
>>736747240switch 2 isn't being sold at a loss
>>736733682you can blame the AAA JP corpos for that like SquareEnix. Understood the formula to make interesting games for the gamers. Seek the lucrative global sales money. Hire absolute fuckwits from the West who have no idea what makes a great game compared to what they have been doing all along. Politics and development hell ensues.
>>736747598yes it absolutely is losing money in japan. it is significantly cheaper there than rest of the world.
>>736747646False. Japan sells 2 SKUs. The multi region SKU sells at the US equivalent price
>>736747840and guess which one sells the most
>>736733682>Nintendo won Japan>But every Switch 2 sold in Japan loses moneyLol they are doomed.
>>736747646Top ten sales proves that whatever bullshit claims of subsidised hardware you might claim are justified by long-lasting software sales from both 1st AND third-party softwareBarrierstation is fucking DEAD, man
>>736745992Sony's western branch convinced Sony over in Japan that Microsoft was the biggest threat to PlayStation after they screwed the pooch with the PS3. When Sony Group Corporation saw how much of a shitshow Xbox was for Microsoft, they finally stepped in and are taking everything away from SIE west and giving it back to SIE Japan rebuilding it. Sony now sees Nintendo and Valve as major threats due to taking market share from them in Japan and due to Valve getting serious with gaming hardware. Sony Group Corporation sees that the Xbox era of gaming 7th-9th gen is over, and it's time to return to their roots.
>>736747972doesnt change anything. selling 5m of anything at a massive loss is still bad on a relative scale.
>>736747862Japan still gets more stock of the multi region SKU and sells more of it
>>736747983>Sony Group Corporation sees that the Xbox era of gaming 7th-9th gen is over, and it's time to return to their roots.Playstation doesn't even have roots. They sold a third party support box and now Nintendo has that. They're completely unprepared for what that means.
>>736748030>massive loss source?
>>736748108the japan region model of switch 2 sells the best there
>>736748170It means nintendo is gonna have to fast track their next console again so they don't get cooked
>>736748193It sells but not on the level of the multi region SKU
>>736748030Guess PS6=5 is mega-fucked then, since they have to drag PS4 sales into their most successful "PS5 Generation" numbers to fool investors into believeing that they're NOT fucked thenAnd don't you dare try and bullshit me that those numbers are real when they had their CEO BEGGING people to buy PS5sAnd just LOOK where that got them
>>736748171it sells at 449 worldwide and something like 330 for japan. big difference. they could still be fairly unhappy with performance overall due to this and especially because it underperformed in other parts of the world
>>736748370i dont know why you would think the japan model wouldnt be selling the best due to its price. thats some serious cope
>investors threads
>>736739250i would like to have a moment here without this absolutely homossexual console war to just appreciate how fucking awful unreal 5 is>memory leak so bad it basically pisses itself constantly, quite literally an incontinent engine, requiring a fucking reboot to get it back to playable state
>>736748482It gets less stock. How do you not understand this
Why did Sony gave up the handheld market with the vita? And why are they trying again?
>>736748421The Multi Region SKU sells for $440 US in Japan
>>736749245And it still sold out over there
>>736736392This. Why buy a console that has no games.
>>736747928It’s profitable overall. Sorry for your loss.
>>736748489STONKS
>>736748030>massive lossno
>>736748563Nah your codebase is just shit m8, stop hiring people from directly northwest of Sri Lanka
>>736748170Their roots was third-party indies and AA studios along with experimental first-party games. They lost that because their retarded ass Xbox-lite western branch just wanted shitty woke movies to compete with Microsoft's low-quality trash because normalfags have shit taste.
>>73673368212k sales PS5 (digital SKU) isn't xbox numbers
>>736749231>Why did Sony gave up the handheld market with the vita? That was at the time when the western SIE branch staged a coup and became the leading branch. They were unhappy Japanese designed Vita was doing better than western designed PS4 in Japan, so they killed Vita off.>And why are they trying again?You have to remember Sony is extremely short sighted. They saw PS5 declining and Switch doing well, so of course the solution is superficially copying Nintendo (again) without understanding what made Switch appealing
>>736749805*If you Ignore PS5 and PS5 Pro
>>736749231It flopped, bigly>trying againremains to be seen
>>736749873>ignore the best selling SKUretard
>>736749836The failure of the vita wasn't even that long ago Those SIE executive must have remembered the embarrassment, and they still want to do it again?
>>736749982*Ignores reality that the PS5 and PS5 Pro are selling in the triple digits
>>736744337>They made more money with the Wii U + 3DSWhere did you get that? Switch made more profit than every other nintendo gen combined. The damn thing sold ps2 numbers and has a digital store, micro transactions, and online subscriptions. Only nintendo consoles to more than just ok after snes were ds and wii and wii notoriously had a dogshit game attach rate
>>736749836The Switch's and Steam Deck's success in Japan allowed the Japanese to take back power and they're making sure they neuter the western branches so hard they'll never have power again.
>>736750158>ignores the reality the PS5 digital SKU is selling in the 5 digitsok
>>736733764fippy bippy
>>736750364>Steam Deck's success in Japan?
>>736750041Completely different people in charge. Vita was a decent piece of hardware it just came out when casual gamers were playing angry birds and candy crush and sony gave up on it completely after year 2. People forget that 3ds wasn't doing so hot at first either but nintendo pulled resources to save it (which led to some wii u games coming out later than planned)
>>736747983>When Sony Group Corporation saw how much of a shitshow Xbox was for Microsoft, they finally stepped in and are taking everything away from SIE west and giving it back to SIE Japan rebuilding itwhy are snoyim so delusional? None of this happened and never will happen
>>736750386>Can't brag about the Pro anymore cause no one wants it>Price hike makes it so Sony is reliant on selling at a loss or has no sales at all>Still can't beat the switch 1
>>736750364source? Your favorite twitter trannies are not a source btw
>>736750413Yes, the Japanese also went for the Steam Deck due to Sony abandoning the handheld market for years.>>736750594You're literally seeing it in real time, the Japanese fully control PlayStation again, Hulst lost the CEO seat.
Video games? Go back to /biz/
>>736750562Considering this and Sony seemingly dropping PS5 to accelerate the PS6/handheld, all this tells me Sony will drop anything the millisecond they don't see success. Same thing is happening now with the PSVR2. 'member the PSVR?
>>736749836Wasn't so much a coup as the western branch saved ps3 and thus were put in charge of ps4 and didn't bother to put resources into vita (keep in mind the sentiment around the time was that mobile games were the future and no one cared and dedicated handhelds anymore)
>>736750664Bloomberg
>>736750723>Sony seemingly dropping PS5 to accelerate the PS6/handheld,According to what?PS6 will not be cheap, I imagine Sony will want to hold onto the install base it has already built up.
>>736750723Totally forgot about the PSVR2Holy shit, they memory holes that failure real fast
>>736750723I don't think ps6 is happening until at the earliest late 2028. I know the plan is still 2027 but there is no way with the current computer part market and world economy they can produce enough and or make it not cost a grand
Both consoles failed because of economic reasons stop arguing retards
Sony should have never moved Playstation's main HQ to America.
>>736750723Tbf seems like vr gaming is in a real rough spot in general rn. Don't know if it has any real mainstream future going forward outside of facebook surveillance headsets
>>736750890I'm glad it happened, it allowed them to see how stupid their western branch was and never give them control again.
>>736750786>Sinaitranny source
>>736750605only 1 and 3 is true. It's still not doing xbox numbers
>>736750787>>736750854The fact that there's more discussion over a console that doesn't exist than the console and games that exist now is telling. Saros comes out this month and no one's talking about it. It's a fifth of the PS5's exclusive library and it's already getting memory-holed.>>736750824>>736750984and they completely dropped VR too.
>>736751169>they completely dropped VR tooWhich makes it all the more hilarious that Nintendo re-released the Virtual Boy to demonstrate that even THEY, despite their best efforts, couldn't make the concept work thirty years agoYamauchi is notorious for telling haters to suck his tiny yellow balls, but Furukawa has nads the size of Mt. Fuji for doing thatVR is limping along on VRchat and people trying to empty their tiny yellow balls
>>736750691>Yes, the Japanese also went for the Steam Deck due to Sony abandoning the handheld market for years.Pfft no they didn't
