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>don't starve elsewhere
Did Klei run out of money?
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No the companies total revenue is in the hundreds of millions and there's people who main DST as their game and buy skins and shit constantly
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I'm actually pretty disappointed this is just more of the same, I was hoping we'd get a different genre or some other shake-up of the formula but this looks like the same stale old trial-and-error gameplay
Shame because I really love Don't Starve's characters and art style
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>>736742239
>Updating the single player game for once
Somethings wrong, I can feel it
All those animations are taking their toll on the budget
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Didn't expect them to do a wholeass new dst game but I'm certainly not complaining
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>>736742484
>but this looks like the same stale old trial-and-error gameplay
I thought you were referring to the glowing lightbulb plants, not-pigs, eyeball plants and boss monsters.
I completely forgot the only reason I find Don't Starve and Together fun is because there's a wiki that autists spend hundreds of hours playing, documenting and modding numbers onto the UI to make the game playable. Oh and modding out the rabbit king until Klei added an official button to do it (or did they? I don't remember).

>>736742930
>singleplayer
There's a trailer to watch but I'll save you a google with image related.
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no, creatives cashed out
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>>736743146
>Its just DST content sold as a seperate game
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>>736742484
Not sure what you were expecting from a game called Don't Starve.
It's not like Klei doesn't make other games like Oxygen Not Included, or Griftlands, or Rotwood where you can actually expect not more of the same.
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>>736742239
Will this game replace DST?
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>>736743284
>play ONI
>it's just more trial-and-error
>autistic fanbase crab buckets anyone who doesn't use the same meta glitches as they do
>half the game is scientific reference (electrolysis temperature), half is fantasy world fiction like slime and all the animals and how coal power uses no turbines, and yet another half is zero player feedback broken formulaes and traps
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>>736742239
>Elsewhere
You mean some other game? Because I'm not playing this shitty combat one more time, kys Klei.
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>>736743847
>doesn't want to play the game
>look up solution
>hurr durr why is it not fun
KEK what a BITCH
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>>736742239
The 3D world and graphical effects look great, but I fear it'll be again full of incredibly long and tedious progression lines, I've burned the fuck out starting new worlds and realizing I'd have to do shit all over again
>crafting chairs is lategame content
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>>736743247
They've been giving DST free updates for years at this point, I think it's alright if they finally make a new ds game/dlc
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>>736742239
Who does this series appeal to?
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>>736744113
You tell me.
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I just want combat in this game to be decent, DS and DST combat is absolute garbage.
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>>736744183
>expecting things to get better
Those skins are not going to re-sell themselves again.
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>>736742239
which one should i buy\invest time into? i don't care about the story
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>>736744113
Thirdies afking for hats which probably makes a better profit than actual bitcoin mining.
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>>736744612
they're both ass, don't bother
it's a fun with friends game
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Mark of the Ninja 2 never ever
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>>736744612
Together
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>>736742239
I'm actually confused what this is? Is it just a DLC for DST sold as a separate game, or is there actually something different about the game. It just looks the exact same as DST gameplaywise
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>>736742930
>>736742239
>Band together with friends
its streamer bait. the most profitable vidya model after gacha
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>>736743984
Anon, I played it.
I put oil in my cooling loop. I saw the benefits of a low freezing point, high conductivity, high density material.
Do you know why that's wrong?
Because the cooling machine uses the same amount of electricity to cool 5kg of oil as it does 5kg of water 10 degrees.
Does the game tell you it's breaking the laws of thermodynamics here whilst trying to emulate them elsewhere? Not really.
Is this a necessary concept to play a save for longer than 5 hours? Yes.

And the strangest part is if you have shit and piss in your water, it improves its qualities in a cooling loop. I shit you not. Because apparently faecal impurities only improve water's qualities, like the Ganges. Though not salt. Saltwater is worse, especially if it's brine.

Thank you for being the crab in the bucket I mentioned though.
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>>736742239
>bought don't starve
>updates just flat out ended for don't starve while updates and new characters continued for the new game don't starve together
>people who bought don't starve just got cucked with the inferior game
Why wasn't Together not just an update for Don't Starve?

I would be intrigued to buy Don't Starve Elsewhere. But they won't just cuck me again by making Don't Starve Elsewhere: Together. Will they?
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why don't they just make the combat better
I can already tell from the trailer they didnt
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>>736744178
>>736744649
Hmm
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>>736745240
Elsewhere is a multiplayer game, so I really doubt they will make something like DSE:T
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>>736745240
To be fair it is a three year gap between DS and DST
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>>736745317
This looks like people's main sticking point.
>Sure, whatever, new game we have to pay for, but the combat is still the same shit...
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>>736745824
maybe if people bitch about it enough they'll listen, but I have my doubts
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>>736745824
>>736745890
How would you change DS combat?
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>>736745084
Wow, almost as if this is the exact same premise as Don't Starve Together
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>>736745223
liquids do not mix like that and solids do not interact with liquids like that. Cool larp tho LMAO
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Looks like a brand new engine. Hope it solves DST's issue of not really having any direction unless you wiki what to do
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>>736745968
You do know that polluted water, saltwater, and brine exist in the game, right?
Oh what am I saying, you're just a troll who doesn't play games.
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I still have a soft spot for Don't Starve even though I got sick of actually playing the game years ago.

It's annoying, everything's a damage sponge, it needs mods and a wiki to be playable and the base building is dogshit, so there's nothing to motivate you to keep going, but I'm a sucker for lorebait and the characters are fun.
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>>736742239
When I saw the trailer I thought it was some kinda Diablo clone with the Don't Starve license.
Like Minecraft Dungeons.
But the website says it's still survival, exploration, crafting and what not.

So is this Don't Starve 3? (DST is technically a sequel to the single player game story-wise)

I like the graphical improvements. The more 3D world is nice, I saw swimming in there, that's cool.
I am a bit concerned on which characters will be in this game though. We've only seen Wilson, Wendy, Willow, and WX.
Now I'm fine if not every character returns. That's probably a good thing, even. I don't think anyone is out here dying to play as Wilbur or Wurt. But I hope they aren't planning to force the audience to pay to unlock people like Wolfgang, Wigfreid, or Webber.
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>>736745949
>ha ha you can't figure out how to solve this problem in this thread in 1 minute
>that means it's impossible for the devs who created the problem in the first place to solve it in 13 years they had since DT release
The most hones klei shill.
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>>736746710
It was an honest question
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I haven't posted about ONI yet btw
>>736743847
>>it's just more trial-and-error
this part is true
>>autistic fanbase crab buckets anyone who doesn't use the same meta glitches as they do
Ignore the heavily autistic they don't even know why they're doing that stuff they just do it
>>half the game is scientific reference (electrolysis temperature), half is fantasy world fiction like slime
no shit, it has to have some quirkiness to it
>and all the animals and how coal power uses no turbines
well nigger if you had your way then every power source would be about boiling water
>and yet another half is zero player feedback broken formulaes and traps
?
if you're talking about how there's bad ways to do something then it's whatever, game is already easy enough since it throws infinite resources your way.
>>736745223
>And the strangest part is if you have shit and piss in your water, it improves its qualities in a cooling loop. I shit you not. Because apparently faecal impurities only improve water's qualities, like the Ganges
Waste water's "benefit" is it's wider range of temperatures at which it doesn't change states, regular water is good enough and it has the added benefit of pissing off (no pun intended) the autistic retards you're complaining about.

Same with the AETN or non-potted wheezeworts. There's a lot of depth to the game that is fortunately barely explored by the playerbase.
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>>736743683
I doubt they'll stop supporting DST immediately once this game comes out, but I think Klei probably wants to move on from a game they've been making for like 12 years.
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>>736745574
Don't Starve Elsewhere: Alone
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>>736746645
I'm expecting a very limited pool of the original cast making it to this game, and we'll instead mostly have survivors from a completely separate group. This is Elsewhere after all
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I never understood why the chinese love this series so much. just seems random but I see tons of chinese mods and chinese memes that reference DS
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>>736745949
The Forge event is a huge step in the right direction. The combat there was significantly more fun.
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>>736747164
After Mao's reign, it hits a bit close to home.
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>>736747164
GRORIOUS 10C PRODUCT WE MUST SUPPORT IT WITH ARR OUR MIGHT
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>>736747428
Kek
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>>736746356
yet they do not MIX. HAHAHAHAHAHA keep larping, retard
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>>736745636
I mean. True.
But DST was effectively just regular DS, but with a server-layer to it that allowed for multiplayer.
And then all the content updates and balance patches that could have just as easily been applied to the original DS (either instead of, or in addition to).
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>>736742239
I usually like survival games but could never get into Don't Starve, just doesn't click to me.
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>>736746356
>>736745223
W larp
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>>736742239
next few years going to be uncertain territory for many companies
doing something that works is a safe gamble until they can get a bit more experimental again
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>play DS near launch
>die because cant find the resources I need or they're a trek across the map away from the base I set up
>try DST
>get killed because all the resources are snatched up
>no direction or info whatsoever on your goals or what anything does beyond the vague item descriptions
>too punishing to the player to just toss them in the world like other games

Never understood the appeal beyond the artstyle
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Shipwrecked was peak. Hamlet was fun, but the clock mechanic was pretty retarded, especially going into it blind. If you enter it after day 60 from another world, all hell has already broken loose
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>>736742930
>Updating the single player game for once
It's a new game, not an update for Don't Starve.
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>>736742239
So they turned pic related into a new game?

That's weird. I thought this was a DLC for Together when I saw other players but it's a completely new game and the steam page says it's single-player with the option to invite friends over.

I dunno how to feel about it. Kinda wish they just ported Shipwrecked and expanded upon that.
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>>736746787
Sorry then. Maybe make both player and enemies being able to attack while moving, just being slower when attacking but not completely stopping, that would definitely change the current kiting slop. Maybe make enemy attacks angled instead of 360 AoE. Maybe give some limited dash to the player. Maybe completely rework the armor system so players could actually take hits instead of kiting being literally the only effective form of combat.
It's really hard to tell from the get go, it needs a lot of testing to see how any changes would work at practice, that's why I'm saying they had 13 years to figure that out but all they figured out is how to sell cosmetics.
At the very fucking least (wouldn't fix shit but still would be better than nothing) they could've added telegraphs, but somehow I doubt they will do even that.
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Don't Starve was fun by yourself.
What are the chances of Elsewhere being fun by yourself?
it seems like ever since Together they went all in on pandering to and focusing on multiplayer.
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>>736750479
Together is fun by yourself, if you install a mod to scale back down the absurd health bosses have in singleplayer
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>>736750479
They seem to be focusing on a single player experience that can also be played by others. Just like the last batch of patches for DST gave us new bosses that are actually possible to solo easily.
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>Game is called Don't Starve
>Theres so much food you never starve
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>>736744178
So it appeals to world superpowers?
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i wish they would update DS so it could run as well as DST at least
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>>736753249
it runs fine if you disable hamlet compatibility
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>>736744978
Invisible Inc 2 never ever
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>>736752770
I've starved more than a few times. Maybe around 20% of my deaths.
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>>736755071
Most of my deaths are to stupid shit, often monster clusterfucks when I'm running low on resources or trying to escape a bad situation.
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>you know the annoying hunger mechanic that some games have?
>what if we make an entire game focusing on it??!?
Hard pass
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>>736748240
>the clock mechanic was pretty retarded, especially going into it blind.
was pretty neat seeing the usual dialogue go apocalyptic though, was kind of spooky the first time
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>>736742239
>the Terraria curse
funny how nobody saying this bc its true, fucking terraria could've a sequel for 2 decade now but nope.
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>>736742484
>I'm actually pretty disappointed this is just more of the same
don't starve together is a good multiplayer game, but it suffers immensely from bad netcode and esoteric game design decisions. some subtle changes would still benefit the game greatly.
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So is it another live service game or devs actually gonna add expansions and shit
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>>736755071
no way. just grab some berry bush and plant them at base, retard. Not efficient but i never starved. Before i figured that you can farm the pigmen houses LMAO
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>>736745240
not every game is going to be a live-service game like fortnite.
don't starve 1 was designed as a singleplayer game. they literally needed to remake most of the codebase to make multiplayer work in don't starve 2.

it's going to be the exact same for don't starve 3 because of how much of a performance and netcode mess don't starve 2 was. the game is in desperate need of being remade because of how bad the lag compensation is in don't starve 2.


don't starve 2 is also suffering from a bunch of content bloat that most players won't experience. i doubt 99% of people who played it have even encountered celestial champion.
it would most definitely benefit from a fresh take.
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I want to enjoy Don't Starve, but it's a straight wiki game and those games are gay.
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No Woodie No Buy
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>>736758270
any retard that cries wiki game for any game is a nogames faggot. besides terraria, even that has an in game guide
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>>736758021
Playing solo one time I got to the moon and was able to summon the champion, but then stopped because fighting DST bosses solo is a ballache that I try to avoid as much as possible. Made a pretty cool base though. Let me go get a picture of it, I think I still have it.
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>>736750479
together is fun by yourself. it's just not as easy as don't starve 1 because the bosses require you to strategize and engage in combat for extended periods of time.
some characters like webber, winona, wurt, wickerbottom, etc, will trivialize most bosses given enough prep time.

that being said, just find a friend to play with. it's probably one of the funnest co-op games out there if both players have the same skill level and ambition.
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How do you keep petrol engines cool in ONI?
I don't have it running 24/7 and I don't like steam baths but it feels like to water cool it I'm using up most of the electricity it's outputting, and then I need to use the remainder on refining the petrol in the first place, whilst gas is free energy in comparison, and even SPOMs are free energy to the point where I'm considering venting oxygen to space just to keep making hydrogen
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>>736758342
some of the shit you need to do to progress is both esoteric and tedious.
no new player is going to figure out how to summon WARBOT without any guidance.

maybe after a million days of survival.
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>>736758342
>it's not a wiki game!
>just ignore 500 esoteric mechanics and how it's a waste of time and sometimes detrimental to cook food!
>also please remember 20 different cock pot recipes, don't use that many sticks, ALWAYS use ice BUT REMEMBER THE MEAT VALUE
>also this is how you deal with all the giants and that thing which was killing you in Summer? That's a giant, you feed him trinkets. And the badger? Well you just have to live away from your base in Fall.
>you don't need the wiki to know all of this if you play with someone with the wiki open! Or a mod! Like the one showing attack ranges!
>oh and...!
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>>736759414
>And the badger? Well you just have to live away from your base in Fall.
Who the fuck doesn't kill Bearger? He's easy.
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BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE
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>>736759414
>Well you just have to live away from your base in Fall.
bearger isn't that annoying. you just wait for him to show up, then lure him to a far away forest to chop wood for you.
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>>736759660
He has the highest health of all giants and needs around 60-90 clicks to be made horizontal depending on a weapon you might not be able to source reliably, and then the host's ping can make it very tedious, even dangerous, like all giants
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic
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>>736760350
A ham bat is hard to source?
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>>736760350
hambat logarmor footballhelmet
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>>736760412
>>736760501
Wooow, wasting food and pigskin instead of getting tentacle spikes?
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>>736760556
>No need to worry about juggling weapons
>Can just focus on killing the boss
>When it's done you get a bunch of meat back
Don't get me wrong, tentacle spikes are best for general-purpose weapons, but when something has 6k HP I need something that will surefire take it down.
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>>736760501
I thought armor didn't stack in DST
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>>736760350
>He has the highest health of all giants
not in dst. dragonfly has 27.5k hp.
bearger isn't that hard compared to most of the bosses in dst. they get much harder as you progress.
latency difference is a genuine issue though. i hope they fix it in dont starve 3.

>Wooow, wasting food and pigskin instead of getting tentacle spikes?
you making a ton of helmets or something? you're also supposed to use monster meat for meatballs to solve your hunger issue.
hambats are incredibly useful if you can make them because you don't have to worry about carrying extra weapons for the durability.
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>>736760984
it doesn't, but it reduces the durability loss in both your armor pieces.
it's not that useful of a combo earlygame though. you'll freeze quickly without an insulation piece anyways.
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>>736760986
>not in dst. dragonfly has 27.5k hp.
wow, that sounds like no fun at all
in fact I looked it up and reddit is offering a literal 15 step walkthrough on how to fight it
do players really have fun farming that?
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>>736761296
Nobody likes fighting Dragonfly. Most people I know just give him a wide berth in the desert.
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>>736761296
i think it's only fun with at least 2 players, which is why i think it's one of the best co-op games out there. you genuinely need teamwork and group preparation to overcome most of the challenges in this game. it's not just a singleplayer game with multiplayer added onto it.

if you don't have the numbers, you have to make up for it with game knowledge and lots of prep. characters like wort can make it easier, given enough time. but you'll have to farm a bunch of resources for your minions first.
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>>736742239
Remember when Klei wasn't just a survivalslop studio? Good times.
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>>736743683
Probably at some point
>>736744113
My friend and me
She loves it, I love it
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>>736758013
I don't like hurting the Pigman

Pigman is friend
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>>736759414
You really don't.

You are a hopeless autist that can't enjoy this game to its fullest.

Sad!
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>>736762941
Careful with the spacing friend, you're acting like you're somewhere else, especially with how triggered you are
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what's wrong with using more spacing?


i don't like how the sentences are spaced with single spacing.
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>>736762285
Rotwood? Mind over Magic? Griftlands?
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>>736742239
This just means that DST updates will slow down
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>>736765452
>>736762657
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>>736765452
it's for the best. i'd rather they work on updates for a newly optimized game engine rather than continuing to add bloat to dst.
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chinkshit
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>dst will be 10 years this month
jesus fuck im old
>>736765564
slow down =/= done with the game
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>>736760350
run him around forests until the treeguards kill him
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Why do they hate achievements?
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>>736763703
You just have to commit to the bit.
Maybe about this much space so you really stand out, you know?



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