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There is a new Castlevania game coming out this year and there is 0 fucking hype for this, what already went so wrong?
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>>736748867
>and there is 0 fucking hype for this
No. That's not true.
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>>736748867
The art style.
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>>736748867
Castlevania is a dead franchise. Like Pac-Man.
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>>736748867
>new Castletrania
ftfy
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>>736748867
>no contact damage from enemies
>lords of shadow orbs and enemy wind up cues
>sub weapons are locked behind bosses
>the whip looks like spaghetti
>god awful art style reminiscent of the netflix series and deadcells, not Castlevania

Need I go on?
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>>736748921
It has more to do with it being so similar to the Netflix cartoon.
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>>736748867
I've specifically sought out trailers and information about it, and I have no idea how it actually plays. My understanding is that it's mostly about beating monsters to death with your bare hands. Is it taking from hard Castlevania platformers with traps and pits placed insidiously? Do you run into obstacles that can only be passed by backtracking to get an item? Are you doing wacky air combos?
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>>736748867
Since the release trailer it was criticized for its cartoonish style, which looks more influenced by the actual Netflix cartoon than by the main series.
The other topic of discussion has been Motion Twin, the developer of Dead Cells, being in charge of the project. It's good because they have experience, bad because it's roguelite experience. Dead Cells has some janky stuff that fits into its gameplay, but you wouldn't like to see in a traditional action platformer; and it's hard to get all of that stuff right in general, e.g. The Game Kitchen still missing jank when they've made 3 successful action-platformers.
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>>736748867
it looks like an alright dead cells sequel but a terrible castlevania.
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>outsourced to westoids
>doesnt look like castlevania
>contact damage confirmed to be removed because casuals cant deal with medusa heads
damn shame.
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Castlevania has been dead since Konami fucked over IGA, the only man who gave half a shit about the franchise. The LGBTQIAP+ pandering shit that Warren Ellis shat out is a travesty, and nobody gives a fuck about it.
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>>doesnt look like castlevania
What does this even mean anymore? The last few official Castlevanias didn't look like Castlevania either.
At least it looks way more like Castlevania than the Lords of Shadow games. So that's an upgrade.
And with the Dead Cells devs, it ought to play well at least.
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>>736748867
>It’s different now REEEEEE!
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>>736750294
I'm not going to tell anyone to go watch Castlevania on Netflix, but Warren Ellis was fired midway through and they got new writers including a woman from Zimbabwe.
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>>736749026
Artsyle for the Netflix cartoon was 11/10 and perfectly captured the vibe of the series. Plot went off the rails and designs had leftist non-white wank problems, but the designs themselves were good aside from that. If they put good writing in then that art style would be a great thing to keep.
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i unironically would consider myself one of the biggest castlevania fans in the world and anything post netflix has filled me with nothing but despair

completely raped the series, brought in millions of secondaries and since the death of the metroidvania sprite era there's been 1000 attempts to put new spins on it, reboots, similar style games that just completely miss what makes CV CV
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>>736750294
yeah
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>>736750569
Have you tried Chronicles of the Wolf?
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>>736750469
Yeah he already did his damage with the church actually being LE BIG EVIL OMG, and the real church being some..gypsy pagans.

Then everything went African. There is seriously no overlap between castlevania fans and the fan of that show, and when asked, people who like the show just stare blankly at the mention of the battle of 1999, and think of Alucard as the one who likes it in the ass.

I loved Castlevania, but it's over. Might as well hope for more bloodstained..
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>>736750569
Same here, bro. And Bloodstained isn't a patch on what CV was. However, there is hope now that metroidvania is an actual genre. If you haven't played Astalon or Infernax, I would certainly recommend them. Also there is an interesting version of CV1 that makes it more non-linear. Rebitten or something. That's pretty good too.
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>>736750446
Yeah, I like a franchise not because the name but because they play in a certain way and the name is simply a signal the themes and mechanics are already familiar to me
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Generic 2D AI slop is NOT castvamania
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>>736750712
I did
> play for 40 miniutes
> last save was 20 minutes ago
> press menu
> press ESC
> game freezes
> repeat again
no thanks
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>>736748867
It doesn't look like a Castlevania game that's why
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>>736748867
Generic monster, not the same art style castlevania always had
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>>736750569
>biggest fan in the world
You are not any of the boomers that still post on the web 1.0 era fan forum
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>>736751114
nta but those people are honestly pathetic and still cry about SOTN..
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>>736748867
Because it isn't a true Castlevania game.
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>>736748867
>new "Castlevania" game
>looks, plays or sounds nothing like Castlevania
>it's actually just another generic indie platformer
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>>736748995
All of the points are great especially no contact damage
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>>736748867
>what already went so wrong?
It looks like a dead cells ripoffs slapped together by pajeets, that's what went wrong. And I have no interest in seeing Sonia Belmont become some lesbian girlboss.
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>>736750981
What a shame. I enjoyed it.
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>>736748867
>what already went so wrong?
just look at it
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>>736751212
You might be confusing places.
They suck off everything and even engaged with the show in good faith. Which ran out when season 2 ran on.
You're talking about a gaggle of people who will say they love 64 (base) with their whole chest
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>>736748995
>>736751281
I remember when they showed the reveal trailer everyone though it was just another generic indie metroidvania
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>>736751317
>I don't like Castlevania
Niggerfaggot.
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>>736750870
>Astalon and Infernax
This. Also, Chasm and Castle in the Darkness. In fact, the best castlevania-esque games all seem to have one thing in common. They were made by VERY small teams (1/2 people). How is it that a team of two people can manage to make games more soulful than a whole host of Konami-payrolled bugmen?
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>>736751524
>engaged with the show in good faith
so they're faggots
>Which ran out when season 2 ran on.
faggot boomers who draw the line at niggers
>You're talking about a gaggle of people who will say they love 64 (base) with their whole chest
faggot boomers who are also liars because LoD had the base game INSIDE IT
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>>736748867

It looks like a run of the mill indie metroidvania as opposed to a Castlevania tutle
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>>736748867
Wow. It's another case of WE WANT A NEW ENTRY IN THIS DEAD FRANCHISE...WOW WERE GETTING ONE?!...EWW I HATE IT BWCAUSE ITA DIFFERENT I DONT WANT IT ANYMORE.
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>>736752415
Yes, we hate it
please bankrupt
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someone post the 'introducing BLUE' netflix comic
it sums up my feelings towards this perfectly
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It looks like shit. I closed the recent gameplay video halfway through. It has zero overlap with what I like about Castlevania.
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I'll reserve judgement till it comes out. The CV DLC for Dead cells was fun albeit short. Even the music was decent.
Pretty sure they got the job because Konami wants money and the least amount of risk possible. Likely go the same way as Ubisoft and the recent Prince of Persia games. Do as little as possible and just hope to make money.
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>>736751820
As a metroidvania fan, I’d be interested even without the Castlevania name attached.
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>>736752415
I never wanted a new vania game because I knew this would happen. I just hope Soulcalibur stays dead so it won't suffer the same fate.
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>>736752717
It even looks like it plays the same, spikes and airdashes and platforming puzzles out the ass
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>>736751605
Not an argument
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Hyped.
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>>736752784
Same. But the Castlevania skin helps.
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>>736752784
As a metroidvania fan, this looks REALLY uninteresting. Looks like there are no stats or leveling system. No equipment. Doesn't look like there's any real progression to be gained. Looks like the level design is just corridors with spike puzzles. Boring.
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>>736752415
>you want a new game in this dead franchise?
>yes please
>okay here it is!
>but this is just a game about a brown blob that eats shit with the franchise's name on it
>PH YOU HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT OH WOW OH WOW

shut up, man..
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>>736749118
did you bother to check out their twitter account
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>set in the netflix castlevania universe
haha no fuck off and die k thx bai
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>>736750510
> Artsyle for the Netflix cartoon was 11/10 and perfectly captured the vibe of the series
>but the designs themselves were good
>then that art style would be a great thing to keep.
haha
no
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>>736752415
I’m sure this sounded smarter in you head but you might be surprised to know that yes, fans of a franchise usually want something that at least resembles the franchise they’re a fan of when getting a new entry.
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>>736755371
There's leveling. I saw it in a video.
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>>736748867
Something about it looks wrong. The enemies aren't apparently recognizable, the music isn't immediately recognizable, the general look of the stages doesn't feel like a proper Metroidvania but rather a roguelite where it changes every time.
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>>736749118
>My understanding is that it's mostly about beating monsters to death with your bare hands
there's multiple weapons. a whip, a sword, a spear and gauntlets
>Is it taking from hard Castlevania platformers with traps and pits placed insidiously
there are traps
>Do you run into obstacles that can only be passed by backtracking to get an item?
its confirmed to be a metroidvania so likely
> Are you doing wacky air combos?
you can use the whip to grapple towards and kick off foes, the gauntlets look like they have an uppercut move
>>736750151
there are medusa heads, those little ghosts that chase you as well
>>736755371
>Looks like there are no stats or leveling system.
you level up
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>>736750510
weak bait anon
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Gameplay just looked bad to me. Not bad as in it's a crap game, but bad as in it didn't evoke any semblance of being a Castlevania game. I think it's made by some roguelite devs, which is a shame. These people can probably make a game with acceptable gameplay within their genre, but the standards are higher in a real game where you need to really slay it with good gameplay instead of relying on addictive psychological feedback loops.
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>netflix vania
>made by the devs that shat out the dead cells DLC
don't do me no favours, Konami
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Why does the playable character never deal contact damage to the enemies?
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>>736756613
Early Ys games do this

In this game specifically it's been shown that you can hit enemies as you swing into them
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>>736756613
Adol used to.
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>>736750294
>IGA, the only man who gave half a shit about the franchise
The fact that IGA isn't being brought back tells us everything we need to know about this. They wanted to make it on the cheap to try and untarnish their image, just like with Silent Hill. And it'll have the same kind of impact, from the looks of things.
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>>736748867
It looks like dogshit.
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>>736756613
Hydlidebros
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>>736756249
>there's multiple weapons. a whip, a sword, a spear and gauntlets
You can hit things with the whip, but it's still ridiculous that a Belmont chooses to forgo the whip and just beat things to death with her bare hands. The combat might be fun, I don't know, but I know it doesn't remind me much of Castlevania.
>there are traps
>its confirmed to be a metroidvania so likely
I figure it's likely to have traps and ability gating, too, but I also figure a Castlevania game won't have you punch Joanne of Arc and I was wrong about that.
>you can use the whip to grapple towards and kick off foes, the gauntlets look like they have an uppercut move
Wacky air combos like DMC or Viewtiful Joe or something where you launch an enemy into the air and keep attacking them to keep them there. I don't expect the developers to make a combo video, but I still don't know which moves are for something besides damage.
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>>736748867
Something about the whole thing just feels off. It might be good, don't want to completely dismiss it, but its not making me think of Castlevania at all. Everything from the art direction to the movement/combat just looks like its taken from something else and they just slapped the series name on it. I'm more interested at this point over what the other projects they plan to announce are.
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>>736750409
I'd go so far as to say the abundance of level hazards and enemies placed relative to them makes this look more "Castlevania" in a classic sense than most of the Igarashi games. The way there's a wall-equivalent of the flipping spike platforms that trigger when planted on with a wall jump (which I'm guessing is an upgrade ability) is a cool Metroidvania-adjacent spin on a classicvania staple.

But we all know the real reason people on /v/ are loud about how much they hate it, it's no secret if you've seen any of the other threads: it has a woman protagonist. Which just makes it obvious what culture warring, election tourist secondaries they are, larping as if to speak with any authority on the series.
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>>736748867
The cartoon killed the franchise. It no longer has street cred or cult status. How the netflixbux were worth it
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The same thing that happened the last 3 Castlevania games form the early 10's that clearly aren't actual Castlevania games
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>>736758442
>it has a woman protagonist
People love Shanoa, so that argument doesn't hold at all.
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I enjoyed the God of War like games but treated them like a separate series. I don't think I will even try this one because the art style looks so boring. Loved the LoS intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSdZ14ft8A
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>>736748979
man I would fuck the shit out of Dracula (reincarnated)!!!
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>>736758664
Someone wasn't here yesterday. There were fullblown melties about it and people pontificating all the ways the entire series would be doomed to turn to shit just because this one game stars a woman.
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>>736755592
Nah, this thread is just schizo ramblings. Even Bloodstained is disliked and that one is aping the old CV's extremely closely.

Like, what the fuck do you even want?
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>>736759449
I don't recall hearing anybody hates the nes styled bloodstained games, the metroidvania one is rightfully disliked for being incredibly low effort in almost every aspect
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Why do people call it netflixvania? What about it is connected to that awful travesty? From what I can read about it from the official website, it seems to confirm that it's not tied to the netflix shit. So what am I missing?
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>>736760557
Motherfuckers like you seriously need to learn how to qualify your stance on something besides just throwing words around. "Low effort" how? The graphics are kinda bad so you wrote off the whole game? You didn't play it?
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>>736748867
Lame artstyle and protagonist, looks too "modern"
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>>736760985
Similar artstyle, designs and atmosphere maybe
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>>736750510
No. no. no. No. You're a nigger. Fuck kikeflix fuck kikeflix fuck kikeflix.
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>>736761023
>graphics
And writing, and voice acting, and everything about the menus how side quests work, everything is just there to be like castlevania
But of course, somehow worse despite being able to make perfectly good 2d games
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>>736759007
I remember the thread yesterday had one guy go "Erm, *checks notes behind my tampons* you only hate this because it stars a woman!" and everyone else talked about the gameplay.
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>>736761494
>and everyone else talked about the gameplay [on /v/]
And then a pig flew so close past my window that I gave it a high five and it winked at me, quit bullshitting. It was culture war tantrum throwing combined with the nebulous "errmmmm it just doesn't FeEl LiKe Castlevania," you know, the series that's changed hands and had numerous artstyle and gameplay formula changes for longer than you've been alive.
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>>736748867
It looks ugly
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>>736748867
>why is here no hype for this game we know next to nothing about?
Retard.
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>>736761945
It must be extra easy to convince people to support your political views when you talk vaguely about something easily checked and don't actually link to the source.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736687643/
There were comments directly about the gameplay, talking specifically about the combat which looked like it was about landing combos on enemies, and the art style which looked like the Netflix Castlevania cartoon.
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>>736763154
>posts hard evidence that somebody was calling it "woke trash" for having a woman MC BEFORE the supposed Redditor showed up
>disregards all the arguing over it that it ensued just because of the immediate (You)s to that specific post
But sure, go off, keep acting pompous like that's a cover-up for being fucking retarded like your kind always does.
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>>736748867
It's not being made by any of the original devs. Imagine if a company tried to sell you on a new Lord of the Rings book written by popular author J.K. Rowling. Do you think people would actually get excited about it?
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>>736750569
>completely raped the series
literally...
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>>736763610
Nigger, there hasn't been a Castlevania by the "original devs" since 1990.
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>>736751076
>Generic monster
that's a really good point actually. are we even gonna see the fun enemies like boomerang skeleton, rifle skeleton, motorcycle skeleton, or Donkey Kong skeleton?
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>>736748979
The igavanias are like 8 hours long on your first playrhough and 4 on your second. The fuck you mean walking around for 100 hours
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>>736763908
>>736748995
>>736750930
witnessed
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>>736761473
>Mention things that have nothing to do with the gameplay
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I think criticism of the art style is valid if not subjective. personally not a huge fan of the Netflix style, but the game's style is not as bad as people are saying and it isn't a 1:1 of the netflix series either.

As far as Gameplay goes we already know it's going to be different than full CV and likely closer to Dead Cells or Prince of Persia. I don't see this as a bad thing as DC had very tight combat and movement, and the genre has been moving to a faster pace for awhile now.

Not much music to judge so far. CV is probably best known for the music and i expect a solid soundtrack if they really want to live up to expectations.
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>>736756725
>They wanted to make it on the cheap
That has been Castlevania in a nutshell since its inception. The only time Castlevania did not have a tight budget was for the first LoS game because of Kojima's involvement
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>>736749026
it seems like an angry "fuck you" to the netflix cartoon with such a similar premise and location
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I'll reserve my judgement for when it comes out. Fuck your doomposting.
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>>736748867
Looks good but it's a dead cells successor first and foremost
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>>736764032
Menus are gameplay, so are subquests and that's related to the revolting voice acting (in all languages) plus I only ever said people disliked it for being generally low effort which it is
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>>736763320
Being generous, maybe you meant that some people posted about the protagonist's sex and you didn't care about posts about the gameplay on the video games board. It is true that people said they didn't like that the MC is a woman. I generally don't care much about stupid comments like that and am much more interested in talking about how the game plays, as many people did in that thread.
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The Castlevania I want is basically Bloodstained done with pixel art, or at least better art direction and visual clarity, better story (not asking much, just something on the level of Portrait, Aria or OoE), Belmont protagonist, and Julius/Jonathan's whip because Miriam's sucks.
Bloodstained looks like a turd but it is genuinely a great game with great depth. I don't see why Evil Empire thinks that Castlevania needs to be "modernized" and why that modernization implies making a completely different type of game that doesn't even have contact damage? Belmont's Curse doesn't even TRY to resemble an Igavania for some reason it's just so fucking different. It's basically another attempt at reinventing everything, like Mirror of Shit.

The other Castlevania I want is a high quality classicvania on the level of Bloodlines. I like that game very much. Pixel art but modern, perhaps even urban setting.

Lastly I want Konami to make another attempt at an action-adventure-platformer Castlevania like the N64 titles. I think they are the only 3D CV that actually feel like CV in gameplay. Yes Iga failed HARD with Lament and CoD in my opinion. If Mario can have Super Mario Galaxy why Castlevania needs to be turned into a boring hack and slash when translated to 3D?
Also I enjoy how Simon and Richter look in Smash. I want a game with an art style like that.
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>>736748979
>who i'd let suck my cock
look at this faggot daring to call anyone else a faggot
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>>736765036
I may have been distracted by the overwhelmingly negative response to the game itself that I personally think looks great, that much I can admit, and those who vehemently took such a stance with such brazenly superficial reasons. What were your thoughts about the gameplay?
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>>736765504
I said something about how Sonia fighting with punches and kicks instead of using her whip is strange for a Belmont. If you want to know whether I like the game, I'm interested enough, though most of it is still up in the air so I don't know if it'll be fun or not.
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>>736748867
>Not developed by japanese developers
>Not pixel art style
>Not a single classic enemy design
>Not a single piece of Kojima art
Not a Castlevania, mankind ill needs a game such as yours.
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>>736766371
I think it's early enough to say it's fair to be undetermined. But the punches and kicks are tied to her whip abilities, aren't they? Like she latches and uses her whip as a tether to lunge forward and uppercut or divekick. Seems like one of the reasons they got rid of contact damage desu, to have abilities that are almost more like you having contact damage against the enemy in a specific circumstance.
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I'm getting this instead
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>>736766957
huh, never expected the next bloodstained game to be made for the fujo audience. odd choice.
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>>736748867
France
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>>736766957
Psyched for this, hope it lets you two-in-one your partner tag input like PoR did
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>>736748867
Wake me up when Konami doesnt outsource Castlevania and makes a 2D sequel to Symphony of the Night
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>>736766957
Me too, shame that the two MCs look so similar, at least I hope they play different enough.
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>>736767247
retard
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>>736766705
I expect more short trailers early on than full showcases of a boss or something. I think fists are a selectable weapon along with a few others. There were a few shots of her fighting with karate, including a jumping punch and a grounded combo. At this point, I don't know exactly how punching works, I just know it was strange to see that much of it coming from a Belmont.
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>>736748867
Netflix killed it.
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>>736768773
Maybe it's taking cues in weapon variety from Curse of Darkness, being that it takes place in that continuity? There was a fist weapon class in that game and it gave you fighting game style jump cancels and everything, I remember thinking it was the tightest shit.
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>>736766705
for the last time, there are other weapons. you can fight with the whip. there's a sword and spear too.
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>new "Castelvania"
>no Iga
LOL
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>>736767247
One of those characters is a woman I'm pretty sure.
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>>736768991
this is giving me mirror of fates flashbacks
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>outsourced
>looks like shart and not castlevania
>nothing of the original sovl behind it
>so much more
l to the o l
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>>736765040
Just play Dead Cells you fucking sperg.
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>no contact damage

Not sure how to feel about it.
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The worst thing is is that this game will be successful enough to shit out more. Castlevania will never be what it was. It's the same shit that's happening to Silent Hill. There is no stopping it. Fuck this gay earth.
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ok boomer
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>>736748867
>there is 0 fucking hype

Uh what?
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>>736769493
at least we have 25+ years of vania games we can play
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Says you, I can't wait.

They said its only the first new CV thing this year too, I'm hyped.
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>>736769617
>namefag being a faggot
Some things will never change
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>>736748867
People are cautious, the game has the Shitflix Castlevania artstyle, and that show was beyond woke, they literally fucked Alucard in the ass, and turned Ritcher into a faggy femboy, I'm also cautious, I might play it if there is good word of mouth from trusted sources
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>>736748867
Confirmed no contact damage, the devs are retards who don't know what the fuck they're doing.
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>>736768885
Curse of Darkness had a lot of fun weapons. This just weirds me out because it's a 2D game about a Belmont and not a 3D game about some other guy. Something like the hooks in the background she whips on to remind me of SC4, but punch combos sure don't.
>>736768991
Yeah I saw the whip too as well as the sword. Luckily, I don't have the issue of not seeing a whip at all. I just don't know how important each weapon is, and I was surprised to see that much punching at all.
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>>736769880
nah, don't even pretend
you'll continue to seethe about it because you are the kind of person that actually HAS fragile masculinity
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>>736769964
Even if it's just weapon variety for the sake of it, frankly I'm for it. I remember thinking games like HoD were lacking for not having it, so it's a plus in my book.
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>>736769617
Only because they called it Castlevania are you interested in it. You don't care for any of the games that took after Castlevania like the Bloodstained games, despite IGA himself being involved with them all, nor any of the devs previous works for this new game, that isn't the new Castlevania game. All they had to do was just put the brand on this, and that was that.
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>>736758664
Shanoa my love
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of course it's a netflix tranny defending the new game fuck off faggot
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>>736770186

Yeah, pretty much.
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It's funny when people act like people aren't truly seeing if they can't see how shit everything is and how trannies are ruining everything, because that's literally just "woke" but pointing in the other direction
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>>736770260
So you're kind of person where if they're favorite series stopped making games, or stopped making games you cared for, you wouldn't look into alternatives that be similar, you might like instead or along them?
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>>736770186
the new castlevania is scarlet engagement
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>>736770370

Ya know, I tried with Bloodstained, but its just not the same without the usual monsters and classic music.
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>>736770410
The game was mediocre. I dont know why people love it so much.
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>>736770410
I mean at this point Bloodstained is closer castlevania than this new game will be

>>736770710
>furfag has shit taste
how am I not surprised
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>>736748867


>woman belmont
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>>736770813

Maybe. So far it reminds me of the 3DS game, which was fine.
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>>736770410
Bloodstained isn't even the only Castlevania like. Ritual of the Night isn't even the only Bloodstained game available.
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>>736770995

>and Charlotte from Portrait of Ruin because I hate her "I am the most beautiful woman on this Earth!" arrogant annoying attitude.
Wow, really?
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>>736748867
Im buying but I hope this is not Mirror of Fate shitty kind of linearity altho I liked MoF. The design was fucking cool and a super impressive on 3DS
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>>736771257

Well, different strokes I guess.
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>>736771476
This and based. Stupid people exist to be exploited and abused by their superiors.
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>>736770056
It'll work decently as like a Devil May Cry style switcher where you have them all available at once. I'm worried you'll just equip one and not have access to the other 3.
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>>736748867
>0 hype
That's wrong. I'm hyped so it's atleast 1 hype.
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>>736748867
>what already went so wrong?
More outsourced slop that might as well be an indie game.
Konami really needs to make in-house games again with their own identity instead of just asking any random dev to make whatever the fuck they want with their ip.
Maybe it will be good but I will just give it the same attention as any other random indie game out there, I will only look at it if it starts making a lot of noise after its release.
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>>736750446
Wouldn't be an issue if there weren't already so many indie games going for the same thing. It just doesn't stand out.
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>>736752415
I'd agree with you if this actually felt either unique or like it is actually following the identity of the previous entries but this looks like it could be any random indie game.
Haunted Castle's remake was a step in the right direction but this just shows again that Konami is just interesting in contracting any random indie studio and make a profit off name recognition alone, rather than having a confident vision on how to take the series forward.
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>>736768991
I'm so tired of every 2d game having so much hitstop and screenshake for every single hit. Save that for when you land the last hit on a boss or some shit, it gets old really quick otherwise.
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>>736748867
Does it have cheesy monsters based on old monster movies? If not then I'm not interested.
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>>736758664
Shanoa, my love. My waifu.
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>>736769982
That fragile masculinity argument has always been the weakest shit on the planet.
Not wanting characters to get fucked up the ass doesn't mean you struggle with your own masculinity, you dumb fag.
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Why are there so many people saying there won't be contact damage?
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>>736770857
Congratulations on having the worst taste on this website. Take a fucking bow.
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>>736758664
DIE SHANOA
EVEN FORGETTING
WHO RAISED YOU
YOU
STUPID DISCIPLE
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>>736751585
That was how I felt. I was watching it in the background while doing other shit and had to do a double take then Castlevania was namedropped at the end
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>>736761945
Wait, I remember you! You're the guy who speeches out at me the other day and called me a racist from /pol/ and cried at me that I was nazi scum and all that shit because I said I didn't like Netflix show! Haha it's great to see some of these retards in other threads, especially the real autismos.
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>>736752415
>I want more <thing>
>Here is <thing>'s name plastered on something else
>I don't want that
>WHY ARE YOU SO UNGRATEFUL, THIS IS WHY YOU GET NO GAMES
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>>736748867
Was the netflix really that bad that it killed the series? I heard it was bad so I avoided it.
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>>736748979
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow but Soma is a girl and Mina is a dude.
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>>736776657
The first one was just a vehicle for a semifamous comic book writer to do his usual "the church is evil" shit, so it fucks up half of castlevania lore to do it. Then they fired him despite telling everyone how great the show was doing and handed it off to some woman from Zimbabwe who made all the characters black lesbians. The only people that liked it are weirdos with a femdom and cuck kink, because they made Hector into like a cuckold slave for some self insert vampire.

There's literally nothing castlevania about it in other words.
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>>736748867
The franchise was hijacked by DEI Karens that hate men for being perverts. They also hate virgin men for not being perverts.
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>>736776657
Imagine all the characters from the games, but they're black and dressed like tribal Africans, sitting around a big table for 12 hours talking about how they gotsta kill whitey cuz whitey dun season dey vampires.
It's basically that.
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>>736748867
>netflix
>stay humbled

Netflix made damn sure Castlevania will stay dead.
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>>736777113
Now that is some real monsters that don't belong in this world, holy shit.
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>>736776657
The early parts were fine. They weren't an exact copy of the game they were based on, but they were very close while writing characters and having a story more complex than "kill bad vampire." Eventually, they started writing their own shit and it was so terrible, the show became one you'd only watch to see how bad it gets. Most people can't stomach it even for that, though,
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>>736777350
Not even. The first episode makes it clear that the church are evil and that sypha is actually a super-pagan and that wrecks everything. All because everything Warren Ellis writes has to be CATHOLICISM BAD.
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>watched one clip of the show on youtube
>Richter sounds like a little English boy and says fuck a lot
Glad to know I missed nothing. I also know that Warren Ellis is a shit writer so I can confidently say the first season is shit too
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>>736768991
I really don't like the artstyle, especially the backgrounds and this overly cartoonish aspect.
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>>736777350
If the show stuck with Curse of Darkness and adapted Hector’s redemption as a B-plot instead of doing the foreverial delitized slave story it would’ve maintained at least some of that goodwill. Even if people would argue on how Rosaly or Julia were adapted.
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>>736778247
I didn't watch much of the show, but even the "good seasons" didn't appeal to me. it was fake edgy.
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>>736768991
at what point do we admit that this looks worse than bloodstained:rotm?
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>>736778247
Correct
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>Dracula is meant to come back ~100 years after his last defeat
>Only exception to this is Simon bringing him back 7 years later where he was naturally a complete pushover and Maxim accidentally bringing him back 50 years later and he's a Wraithe barely able to conjure up a castle, let alone do anything with it. The only people affected by its presence is Juste, Maxim and Lydia
>Set your netflixvania-looking sequel slop 20 years after Castlevania 3
>Dracula is at full power, leading an army through France
Western faggots never respect anything.Would honestly be surprised if no one who designed anything consumed anything Castlevania beyond the Netflix series.

It's going to flop because the people who watched Netflixvania aren't people who buy videogames.
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>>736748979
actually, there's a few classic style vania's that had split paths.
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>>736778703
Fuck off. Castlevania was always a mess of convenient plot lines. It was always about the tight gameplay, excellent music and gothic atmosphere.
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>>736748979
>Bloodlines
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>>736778791
You fuck off. How is it that after the storyline is made into absolute rancid DEI slop, you "people" come out of the woodwork and say "UH ACTUALLY IT WAS NEVER GOOD"

get fucked.
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>>736778791
>It was always about the tight gameplay, excellent music and gothic atmosphere.
And this slop looks like it has literally none of that.
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>>736778703
>Dracula is meant to come back ~100 years after his last defeat
I always laugh when secondaries try to pull this shit. Dracula showed up 3 fucking times in the 20th century alone.
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>>736778951
Dracula can be artificially resurrected though.
>secondaries
you should stop using this weird reddit term. It marks you out as an outsider here.
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>>736768991
>combos and hitstop
Not a fan
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>Trannies seething about no contact damage
Cope. Contact damage doesn't belong in metroidvanias
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>secondaries
>weird reddit term
Struck a nerve, huh?
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>>736779320
Video games are being dumbed down for mouth-breathers like this.
Sad state of affairs.
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>>736748867
It's simply too french
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>>736778791
Shills seem especially sensitive over this game.
I checked what reddit thought about it to get a bigger perspective and even the most lightest "yeah, this isn't for me but I hope you guys enjoy it" is downvoted hard.
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>>736753158
Yes it is. You're a retarded niggerfaggot trying to make a game you don't like into another game instead of just fucking off and playing some other game in the first place.
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>>736779336
Just to let you know, we often reply to posts directly here, so that people can follow the conversation chain. it's called being a decent human being.

>struck a nerve
no? Trying to adhere to a "fanbase" in current year is a retarded thing to do because most things are slop now and everyone knows it. I don't think there is a single "fanbase" that can agree that the modern instalments of their chosen franchise is any good. I'm honestly wracking my brains trying to think of one..
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>>736779320
But both Metroid and Castlevania have and have always had it
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>>736779320
contact damage is a tradeoff handicap that they player accepts due to the fact that they player can attack whenever they like, but the in-game enemies are on a set pattern.

I thought everyone knew this, but I suppose it's part of the shill narrative they're trying to set up for this game, alongside
>the story has ALWAYS been bad
and
>netflixvania is ACTUALLY GOOD ACTUALLY

yeah, nah.
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I want to take a moment to remind everyone that Bram Stoker's Dracula is in the official Castlevania canon.
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>>736779802
>you will never get an IGA bram stoker's Dracula game
>you will never fight a slutty Lucy Westernra boss
>you will never buy potions from Dr Seward and use him to upgrade weapons with science
>you will never buy weapons from a dismissive and prudish Arthur Holmwood

Shame. Overture of Dischord has a nice ring to it.
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>>736780124
>ywn fight Dracula as he does his freaky lizard walk on the walls
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>>736780178
That would be excellent. Also being drawn into Dacrula's memories from him being a bloodthirst Wallachian warlord would be excellent. Also optional content finding Johnathan Harker in the succubus basements.
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>>736778892
>retard starts going into some DEI angle for some reason
None of what was said was addressed by your retarded statement. You are an absolute dumbfuck.
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>>736781218
>for some reason
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>>736748979
>100 hours
isn't SOTN only like a 2-3 hour game at most?
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>>736781263
it seems like shills will either praise the netflix cartoon or ignore it altogether just to prove a point
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>>736748867
was bellend the one who took it up the bum in the netflix cartoon?
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>>736781263
Yea cause you have zero reason to presume that the new game has a DEI storyline.
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>>736781350
I think they're mostly trying to use the whole "it saved castlevania" thing with it. Like people do with edgerunners and Cyberpunk 2077.

But while both of those arguments are stupid, at least edgerunners was good. The castlevania show seemed to just be a bunch of blackwashed characters written by DEI hires sitting around and complaining about white people and nobody watched it past the first season

>>736781435
It's the same "universe" as the show, anon. So by default it adheres to the show's DEI storyline.
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There's something about the artstyle that I find unappealing. I can't quite put my finger on it. It doesn't "feel" like Casltevania to me
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>>736781621
Yes? So, as I said, it adheres to the show's DEI storyline..
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>>736781435
>Yea cause you have zero reason to presume that the new game has a DEI storyline.
>>736781676
>Yes? So, as I said, it adheres to the show's DEI storyline..
RETARD ALERT!!!
WeeeeOoooooOoowwwww-WEEEEEEooOoooOoowwww
RETARD ALERT 5, PEOPLE!
THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
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>>736781621
>Trevor Belmont's successor
>confirmed to be Sonia Belmont

kek. Tell me again how this is related to original canon
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>>736781806
mhmm. So anyway, the game is confirmed to be set in the same canon as the cartoon slop written by DEI hires.
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>>736760985
>Why do people call it netflixvania?
Because the player character has the same colours as sypha. That's it.
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>>736781810
Its not. they just want to jam as many women and blacks into the story to beat you over the head with some anti-white, anti-male bullshit message. It'll be sloppa through and through.
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>>736781858
and because it's set in the same storyline as the netflix show. Moron.
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>>736781858 see >>736781621

>>736781867
you sound just like one of my splatoon friends lol
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>>736781847
That sounds terrible lol
The only way it would work is if it was set during the time of the netflix cartoon and you got to play as Dracula killing everyone. All the MC from the cartoon, all the vampires. Let us kill them all
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>>736781918
>you sound just like one of my splatoon friends lol
You and your friend have good taste. Based anon's.
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>>736781951
he's an asshole but yeah he's is
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>>736781923
You're joking, m8. It'll be slop through and through. You WILL meet Alucard. He WILL make allusions to being a "power bottom". You WILL meet the African vampires. They WILL be noble and amazing and overwhelming and much better than the belmonts.
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>>736781867
>implying people pay attention to that and not solely focus on the combat
Leave the slop to the casuals.
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>>736781810
There's a pretty large gap between CoD and The Adventure. If you want to stick a game somewhere it's the safest spot to use.
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>>736781621
The Netflix show is canonized? That's news.
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Why is the MC a muscular tomboy? Castlevania female protagonists never looked like that. They are either lolis or beautiful women that still look soft, even when they have immense athletic prowess, like Maria and Shanoa.
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>>736782487
because women are stronk. $20 theres a cutscene with the female empowerment "Roar"
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>>736782518
Meh, I would have preferred a male mc, not that I dislike women, but because the last playable male Belmont in a metroidvania was Juste in fucking 2002, I guess Jonathan should count because he's a cousin, but he looks like a fucking faggot and I never liked him. Also because Smash blueballed us with a modern rendition of Simon and Richter that feels so cool and genuine. I hope Trevor is playable, or perhaps that Fallen guy is revealed to be a Belmont and has his own mode.
But going back to the Smash rendition of Castlevania, I wonder why we can't just get a get a new game with an artstyle like that and classicvania or Igavania gameplay? Belmont's Curse was supposed to be for Castlevania what Metroid Dread was for 2D Metroid. Instead they are once again reinventing the gameplay like Mirror of Fate did, and with an extremely unrecognizable artstyle on top of it too. Why they do these things? Bloodstained sold 3 millions.
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>>736750510
>Artsyle for the Netflix cartoon was 11/10
Someone post the Scooby Doo clip.
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>>736783124
I don't get how people can say that when the netflix monsters look generic as shit (90% of the time it's "pack dark grey beasts that move fast"), every male character is horse faced, the vampire killer is so thin it gets costantly disregarded for other weapons, etc.

Lol captcha is a cross.
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>>736783124
found it
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>>736778428
Same, looks bad. If they had brought the old sprites back that they reused a thousand times even if it'd be lazy I'd actually be more hyped
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>>736778951
actual secondary spotted
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>>736778791
and this game doesn't have that, it's dead cells wearing the rotten skin of castlevania
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>>736778703
>Dracula is at full power, leading an army through France
From what they have said it seems like Dracula's resurrection will happen later in the game.
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>>736783410
Agreed.
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I for one. Like that it takes place in Paris.
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>>736748867
the netflix series destroyed any kind of expectations I have for a Castlevania made by a western studio.
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>>736781621
>recent animated show
what the fuck? this must be a mistake
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I just want 2d castlevania.
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>>736748867
>Evil Empire
They made Dead Cell worse (easier).
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>>736770410
The thing about Bloodstained is it was a Kickstarter game and a huge chunk of backers are Chinese, so they had to remove all the skeletons and zombies because you can't show that in China, so all these enemy types had been replaced with black slimes. Which is pretty lame for a Castlevania game.
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>100 hours
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>Castlevania on the mind lately
>Hate the look of Bloodstained so i never bothered with it, and hate the look of this new Castlevania as well
>Thought what the hell maybe i'll give Bloodstained a chance
>See people talking about skeletons and such being replaced by slimes so decided to have a look at the enemy roster first
What the fuck is this garbage? https://bloodstained.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_enemies_in_Ritual_of_the_Night
Not only is the game so ugly, but the enemies are such a fucking mess of ugly boring uninspired trash. One enemy is a fucking shit ass purse dog for fucks sake
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>>736781270
Maybe if youre transgender
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>>736748867
Because it’s deadcells not castlevania.
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Does anyone have the scarecrow duty pic ?
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>>736766957
I'm getting both, but yes.
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>>736789487
Despite the awful designs (brought in by being a kickstarter nightmare), Bloodstained is an excellent CV game.
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>>736748867
Cheap 3d graphics. Ugly. Nty.
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>>736789487
Play the Curse of the Moon games instead. Both are excellent.
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>>736748867
we got robbed bros
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>>736783316
What the fuck is this? Why is there a nigger in Castlevania?
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>>736781621
So that's why it looks like shit.
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>>736766957
>feminine male protagonist - no one complains
>masculine female protagonist - everyone suddenly gets triggered
Why the double standards? Are you guys all fags?
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>>736792268
4chan is predominantly homosexual, that makes you one too
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>>736748867
Western tranny slop
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>>736748979
Technically, some Castlevania had non linear levels and Rondo had alternate paths.
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>>736748867
>woke castlevania made by westeners again
no thanks
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>>736791749
Why do people stan Sonia?
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>>736793298
woman
as compared to this thread full of gay men with deep-seated masculinity issues that hate her for the same reason
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>>736768991
Not a fan.
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>>736792268
Elegant, aristocratic male designs are a classic that existed for hundreds of years in literature, it's even more fitting in the vampire fiction. Nobody wants to look at a roided dyke.
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>>736748995
>no contact damage from enemies
Good. It's time to ditch that mechanic into a trash bin where it belongs. Modern metroidvanias with none or limited contact damage like lost crown or grime are the best.
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The one on the left better be a woman
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>>736793771
>it's even more fitting in the vampire fiction.
Not really. Dracula was a hairy old dude and the cast only had one truly rich guy that financed the hunt for Drac. Hell, Dracula telling Harker that nobles should rules over the lower class is meant for you to be seen as old fashioned to the modern and rational PoV of the cast.
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>>736748867
It looks like cheap dogshit, what the fuck is there to talk about? Konami left this IP rot, and after 15 years, we get this outsourced ugly derivative shovelware.
When Konami isn't mindlessly remaking games when they used to be good, they are doing this instead. I fucking hate them so much.
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>>736767476
The blond as a bigger nose. Just enough for me.
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>>736748867
If it seems like a good metroidvania ill probably get it.
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>>736793998
And what would you have wanted?
inb4 sotn remake
inb4 "LITERALLY a romhack of another game"
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>>736781621
>recent animated show
Yeah, I'm dodging this one. The real dracula's curse is that abomination wearing castlevania like a skin-suit.
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>>736794153
Castlevania 99
Castlevania 2 remake
The canceled 3d Igavania
An original Castlevania

All by Japanese developers. Not westoids.
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>>736794406
Oh, so your problem is that you're a hopeless weeaboo, got it.
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>>736794153
Not him, but he would be cool to see an alternate timeline where Julius fail to kill Dracula and this leads to a DMC like game with NES style barbarian looking protags vs the Kojima-esque aristocratic vampires
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>>736793986
Books like Carmilla or Vampyre have pretty effeminate, elegant Vampires in them, and both predate Dracula by Decades
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>>736794469
Japanese developers prioritize gameplay over everything else. Westshits value presentation, politics and self praise over gameplay. I enjoy video games so naturally I pick the Japanese.
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>>736794558
Isn't Vampyre a riff at Byron?
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>>736794606
Yea Hideo Kojima's DS was goated because it had great gameplay and since it definitely NOT a movie game
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>>736794683
>Yea Hideo Kojima's DS was goated because it had great gameplay
Correct.
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Hows Bloodstained?
Almost done going through all the Classic and Iga games and I need more
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>>736794914
Absolute dogshit unless you actually like Igavanias.
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>>736795001
I like both Classic and Iga, yes
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>>736794606
politics and self praise, i'll give you, but presentation? really? if that was never an issue then japanese budgets shouldn't also have ballooned over the past decade
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>>736794914
It's like a greatest hits compilation of SOTN + the DS games, but with really amateurish 3D graphics. So basically nostalgia bait for IGA's fans.
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>>736794914
I liked the gameplay but the artstyle is horrid. Should've just done 2D instead of that awful 2D-3D crap.
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>>736794914
5 Million dollar unreal engine slop that would have only actually costed 1/10th of that price to make. It is a fucking scam.
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>>736795610
you can:
pay one person to spend 30 years making a game
pay many people to spend maybe 3 years making a game
one costs more than the other
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>>736750870
Can't speak for the metroidvanias but I'm perfectly happy with curse of the moon as a substitute for classicvanias. In fact they're more classicvania than the new m2 remakes just from the fact that they have fixed jump arcs. To me that's one of the defining unique features where the absence just makes cv4 and the m2 games feel like generic action platformers.
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>>736793298
Same reason this game stars Sonia. There's one Belmont woman.
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>>736795701
Yea dude. Surely this UE slop was worth 5 million dollars when E33 was developed in less than 10 million dollars.
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>>736795994
so potentially more? thinking emoji thinking emoji thinking emoji
can't forget that they were caught using genai assets, either
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>>736796121
>A game using genAI had better art direction than one crafted by an industry genre "expert"
Makes one wonder
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>>736796242
Wonder how little it bothers you? Sure. Bothers me immensely, and not in a way favorable way to the developers.
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>>736796315
>not in a way favorable way to the developers.
Yea. The aforementioned devs being artplay.
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>>736795795
How about a female Morris?
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>>736794914
They took shit from a bunch of different Igavanias and blended them together. Mostly Dawn and Ecclesia. It's not so identical that liking those means you'll definitely like this, but it's so close it feels like a long lost Castlevania game that came out a bit after Ecclesia.
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>>736796242
The art direction in E33 blows. Every strand of hair looks like a wire coming out of their head, most characters are so inhuman that they lack things like facial muscles and the whole thing is blurry to the point everything always looks out of focus. Bloodstained has good art direction where the characters stand out and look sort of drawn in. The advantage in E33 is you can tell they spent a lot of money on the visuals. Bloodstained looks cheap, like they would've had a different art style if they'd had more money.
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>>736797283
>Bloodstained looks better than E33
Bait or mental illness, call it.
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>>736767247
Left is a woman or right I don't know one of them's a woman.
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>>736781621
>The game not only follows the canon of the DEI Shitflix series it also rewrites and replaces the cannon of the games with it
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>>736797714
I wonder if you noticed that post begins with "The art direction," talks about art directions and has praise for the visuals in E33. I guess you just skimmed it and made up your own post to reply to.
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>>736797714
But there is a third option...
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>>736748867
bloodstained is the new castlevania. castlevania is dead.
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I would probably feel a lot more nitpicky about this game if we weren't also getting Bloodstained.
But Bloodstained is truly Castlevania through and through in all but name. I honestly doubt Konami could top that no matter how hard they tried.
So given that. I think it'd be kind of cool if Castlevania could live on alongside Bloodstained, even if Castlevania was to take new forms.

At least the Deadcells devs make good games. And isn't Lords of Shadow.
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>>736798365
Will Bloodstained ever have a classicvanias that is not a pixel bonus?
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>>736798640
Who knows. But I certainly hope that Scarlet Engagement's release coincides with a third Curse of the Moon game.
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>>736798915
There is no way they won't do a new Curse game to go along with it.
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>>736760985
When I first saw the trailer, a friend of mine was watching with me. I have played every Castlevania except Judgement and LoS2. He has never played any. When I saw the new game trailer, I just thought it was more Dead Cells. When it was revealed to be Castlevania, my friend got excited for me, and I told him it didn’t really look like Castlevania.

He responded, “What do you mean? It looks just like the show.”

He did also ask me why it didn’t feel like Castlecania to me. Just reminded me of tge 3DS LoS game. Castlevania should be about the terrain ad enemy placement creating puzzles for movement where you’re always thinking a few seconds inti the future about where you’ll be and where the enemy attack and movement patterns will take them. I don’t want to approach an enemy on a flat plain and enter a canned combo until an enemy does the pose to let me know to press the dodge button. I haven’t seen enough gameplay ti be certain yet, but just looks boring to play so far.

>>736751709
>LoD had the base fame inside it
This isn’t quite true. Multiple stages and scenes are cut - it’s like playing an abridged, diet version of the original N64 game.
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>>736798640
Didn't they do that with Dominique's Curse?
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>>736800198
They did.
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>>736796681
There's plenty Konami could have done, like Charlotte as a Belmont or just make a totally new character. They didn't, though, so Sonia is the one. There are cool women leading some Castlevania games, most notably Shanoa. They've had the Morris family in the games before and could easily throw in like Quincey great granddaughter. That still wouldn't satisfy the big group of people who just want to see a Belmont, though.
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>>736781621
That's marketing spin to lure in normies.

Konami has confirmed Belmont's Curse is a sequel to Castlevania 3 and Curse of Darkness. You people are literally jumping at shadows and netflix boogiemen.
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>>736802330
>konami uk
>posts the actual marketing shit
might as well say that you are retarded bro
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>>736802913
Fucking retard.

The simple fact that Dracula is the villain of Belmont's Curse already is proof that it doesn't follow the netflix show because that show ended with him getting his wife back and not wanting to genocide humans anymore.
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>>736803221
>drac never came back when he was in his designated time out
>they can't retcon shit now apprently to bring him back
little bro is mega retarded
just accept that you are coping hard because another source contradicts your twitter screencap you stupid faggot
stop posting your retardation and kill yourself
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>>736748867
Perfect thread to ask, anyone else wish there was another fighting game for Castlevania? Ideally NOT made by Arc Sys.

Also how willing would you be to buy a Castlevania Racing game? Ever since Konami Krazy Racers been wanting a dedicated Castlevania racing game.
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>>736748867
May be tired to say this, but anyone interested in a Castlevania souls like game? But don't hire MIyazaki because he's obsessed with femboys.
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>>736803520
I'll be proven right in the end, you reactionary nitwit.
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I might be the only person on this godforsaken board that its actually excited for the new Castlevania game.
You guys are so bitter holy shit.
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>>736804080
>You guys are so bitter
For good reason, idiot.
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>>736804080
Seriously, everyone is just addicted to being hateful. Castlevania is alive and niggas out here saying they want it dead again.
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>>736804080
why would i be excited about a netflix inspired game?
it's not being bitter it's being honest, this isn't a castlevania game
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>>736804237
when the reason its alive is >>736781621
because of the shitty netflix show then yes of course i'd preffer it being dead

you are a faggot that celebrated when they raped alucard kill yourself
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>>736804080
I'm exited for Bloodstained. This trash is not Castlevania.
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>>736804270
>netflix inspired game

See
>>736803221
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>>736750569
I don't give a shit about Castlevania beyond Circle of the Moon and that one that takes place in modern era, and I thought the Netflix show was flawed, but entertaining. What is your opinion of people like me?
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>>736748867
No one trusts nu-Konami
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>>736748995
Contact damage is a stupid idea for a game genre that puts regularly opponents on dangling platforms over spiked pits. Where a single tick of damage commonly stuns you and knocks you back and sometimes doesn't even give you invincibility frames

Imagine if Smash Bros had contact damage. It's a retarded idea left over from platformers that's only combat was jumping on top of the enemy - and even that's more contact than metriodvanias will allow. Just because some devs were too lazy to create attack animations and hit boxes. Fuck. That.
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>>736804080
I'm tentatively excited because I didn't really like Dead Cells. But I'm a big Castlevania fan so I'm trying to stay hopeful.
Hate the Netflix show and Lords of Shadow.
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indievanias have vastly eclipsed castlevania as a brand and also in game quality

It's fun a new one is coming but it is not remotely special anymore
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>>736804667
>his only source is a retarded that is coping hard
see >>736781621 and kill yourself newfag, konami is retarded and so are you two shilling this
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>>736748867
>what already went so wrong?
The best games in the franchise are still not on PC, so I've no interest in playing anything new from the franchise.
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>>736781621
So it mentions the game AND the show, not JUST the show.
Its just marketing dude, calm your tits, CV has never been a big seller, this is just Konami trying to get as many people as possible.
And its working.
But the only thing the game has relating to the show is its somewhat similar artstyle.
Im telling you, CVfaggots on /v/ are the whinniest bunch, not even Megamanfaggots are like this.
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>>736748867
Watched the videos for this. The colors are so drab and lifeless. The music left no impression on me at all. This is going to be complete trash, I can tell

The sad truth is that if you want to play a good, relatively recent Castlevania game, your best option BY FAR is Curse of the Moon 1 and 2. It's just a fact. This? I don't believe this is going to change that.
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>>736805179
No, you're upset because Castlevania is popular again.

Konami isn't stopping with just one game.
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>>736805874
Please canonize Carrie next.
Please canonize Carrie next.
Please canonize Carrie next.
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>>736794309
kek
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>>736805874
>konami is going to keep raping castlevania
this is what you are celebrating, eat the slop all you want it's not going to make it good and kill yourself
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>>736748979
Anti metroidvania faggots are trying to claim real fans are trannies just like the anti new Vegas troon spammer
I'm noticing
Another forced psyop
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>>736805583
>So it literally mentions that is following the events of the game AND the show
ftfy you stupid faggot, why would anyone want thwm to mention the shitty show where they sodomized alucard?
headbutt a bullet
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>>736805874
So, when will they announce another Castlevania game or the release date for Belmont's Curse?
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>>736806336
Yea yea.. now do us all a favor and rope your ever complaining bitch ass, faggot.
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>>736806336
I'm going to love the moment when schizos like you get proven wrong.
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>>736806484
Did Alucard get raped in the game? Did Grant appear in the show? Did Hector get reduced to a fucking simp in CoD? Is Dracula evil in the show? No right? Why mention the games then? Why mention them if theyre just going to follow the shows plot? Its almost as if they are using the most popular thing the series has produced since LoS1 as a marketing stunt... HMMMMM, really gets the noggin joggin, doesnt it?
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>>736806794
>not a single answer
why mention the show then? why mention that you are following the events of it if said events are different? the show is not a good marketing bit because is not only comoletely different but also everyone did a 180 and HATES it now not to mention that nocturne flopped hard, it's no longer relevant to mention it

unless, unless things from the show are going to be mentioned, otherwose it makes no sense

again, headbutt a bullet you disingenuous retard lmao
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>>736806683
>>first trailer
>g-guys the netflix shit isn't even mentioned, r-relax ok?! k-konami is based n-now right?!
>>more info comes out explicitely mentioning the show
>ok they mention it b-but l-l-lol i-it's nothing i-i swear l-look at this twitter screencap, please?!?!
you should stop moving the goalposts faggot
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>>736807275
As soon as the first trailer dropped you retards were screeching that it was both Netflix AND the LoS timeline.
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>>736758075
>it's still ridiculous that a Belmont chooses to forgo the whip and just beat things to death with her bare hands
Ricther?????
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>>736807073
>not a single answer
Hop off your bubble buddy, breathing your own farts cant be good in the long run.
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>>736805874
Worked for Silent Hill, right?
Silent Hill is more popular than ever, right?
Silent Hill Ascension was really popular, yeah?
....Silent Hill: The Short Message was...played by people? Wasn't it?
Silent Hill F wasn't a flop and a joke?! WAS IT?
Silent Hill Townfall isn't dead in the water before release?
IS IT?!
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>>736807332
and now netflix is explicitely mentioned
i don't know fag, i think you are a retard that can't even accept that maybe, possibly, konami is just THAT retarded and might include stuff from the show
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>>736749282
dead cells is a mid as fuck game and this looks to be dead cells with a castlevania coat of paint
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>>736748867
All I want is harmony of despair 2 honestly
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>>736807686
>still not an answer to any of the questions
i get it, you are retarded and disingenuous
headbutt a bullet fag lmao
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>>736803221
>The simple fact that Dracula is the villain of Belmont's Curse
Is he?
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>I don't like game
>I will never play game
>now hear and respect my opinion on game
"no"
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>>736807821
>still not answering any of the points
Alright lil bro, go to sleep, you got school tomorrow.
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Making a sequel to the Netflix shows as a game was always going to be something Konami considered.
Lord of Shadows was already proof they considered the normal castlevanina timeline a struggle to expand on. Rebooting with Netflix is certainly a thing that crossed their minds.

Now is Belmont's Curse a reboot with Netflix in mind? That's to be seen. But I wouldn't be surprised if it happens
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>>736807861
Devs confirmed it.

https://youtu.be/Ry55L_r_bto?si=73fQDhatiId6IK5a
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>>736808010
>they considered the normal castlevanina timeline a struggle to expand on
kek. Igarashi would have happily churned out a game every two years and they would have been just fine. The fact was that CV wasn't making them ENOUGH money, because they wanted more. Then they took up pachinko machines, which obviously failed. Now they're begging people to pay attention to this indie shit they're making based on a netflix show that got made because they sold their IP for a quick buck.

That's like selling your magic beans to buy a cow, eating the cow, then begging people to buy your shit because they respect the power of magic beans.
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Yet all the recent crossovers and collaborations use classic timeline characters.
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>>736808013
"resurrecting dracula is one of the most important parts of the game...give the players something unexpected"

That makes it sound more like it will be a fakeout, and that it WON'T be Dracula, honestly.
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>>736808235
I recognise everyone but this?
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>>736808010
>Lord of Shadows was already proof they considered the normal castlevanina timeline a struggle to expand on
You're retarded.
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>>736808235
This corssover DLC was unironically kino. VS remains the king of it's genre.
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>>736808010

>Now is Belmont's Curse a reboot with Netflix in mind?

No. No its not.
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>>736748979
If liking Iga's games makes me trans then dilate me daddy.
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>>736808458
Quincy Morris, Bram Stoker novel, father of John, grandfather of Jonathan.
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>>736808593
I don't play VS but it had some really nice remixes and a based song selection.
https://youtu.be/id7tKEMM85Y?si=LfUFXIw8Tvu7sYXp
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>>736748867
Woman protagonist
Cheap ugly artstyle
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>>736808458
Quincy from the Brahm Stoker novel because Bloodlines made the book canon to Castlevania's mythos.
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>>736808781
FUCK ME of course. I think I was thrown by the fact that he hasn't really been in any of the games, but his old-west style should have tipped me off.
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I hope that reverse trap is packing huge tits under her armor.
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https://youtu.be/uBrEFKjuCBE

Here's your modern Castlevania.
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>>736752415
>EWW I HATE IT BWCAUSE ITA DIFFERENT
You fucking retard, we specifically asked for more of the same thing we already like
Metroidvanias are the most stale and noninnovative genre for a reason, because we want MORE of THE EXACT SAME THING you FUCKING NIGGER
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>>736808013
and they also confirmed that netflixvania is somehow involved little bro
stop being retarded
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>>736808941
That looks excellent.
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>>736808680
kill yourself retard, we have enough idiots with the shills in the thread
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>>736777275
The shitflix writers really thought voodoo hotep Annette would be popular lmao.
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>>736809053
No they didn't.
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>>736809115

Its not. Its explicitly set after 3 on NES. Probably after the PS2 game.
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>>736809115
Then why are you still here?
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>>736809151
yes they did
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>It's the morning
>multiple people are suddenly defending the game and calling the old games trash
Yup the shills woke up
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>>736809178
>it's not
see >>736781621
why would the mentiok the show?
retard
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>>736808943
This. We already like metroidvania and just want more of them. That's literally it. That's all we need. Games that adhere to this perfected formula are lauded, and those that don't flop. It should be easy as fuck to see this by now, but when a board room is involved, the boomer suits can't understand that people don't constantly want NEW things with MORE DIFFERENT.
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>>736748867
The monsters and characters look too cartoonish and the environments are too oversaturated. The trailers haven't featured any noteworthy music either.
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>>736809335

Because the show adapted 3. Its still set in the game continuity.
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>>736809221
because i want to shit on shills and retards that are dumb enough to think that konami, fucking konami, will not make the dumbest decision ever and include shit from the show
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>>736809335
for all the "huge Castlevania fans excited to play it for the first time" to whom the show's fandom applies
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>>736809276
They're also defending the fucking trash show. Fuck them.
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>>736808458
Was this design for Quincy cooked up by the VS devs or is it something that Konami had in their vault?
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>>736809573

If Konami ever had designs for the novel characters they never revealed them.
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>>736809573
Probably the VS devs. Not difficult though. Quincy in Dracula is one of Lucy's suitors and his thing is that he's an earnest, brash Texan man, so they probably just made him look like a wild west tycoon guy. Not sure of his role in the CV lore EXACTLY, but I think he probably was a custodian for the vampire killer, due to the Morris line being a branch family of the Belmonts, and it not..well, killing him to be near it?
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>>736809396
>after the events of... the animated show
the show is a terrible adaptation and it DOES NOT follow the same events, it changes a ton of shit, as some other idiot like you admitted dracula gets a happy ending, somehow, with his wife in hell
>set in the game continuity
you have no shit to back that up, the show its explicitely mentioned there and the events are entirely different, why would it be mentioned when it's 1) completely different from the canon games and 2) irrelevant and confusing to people picking up CV for the first time?

does the name make you more retarded or what? kill yourself
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>>736809697

It only kills you if you use it to fight, and Quincy, like in the book, probably let Van Helsing and Harker do all the work.
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>set in the game's continuity
>yet somehow Sonia Belmont is her own descendant's daughter
do your research, shills.
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>>736809404
who? people hate the show now its not nostalgic or even fondly remembered, it's clowned on for having alucard take it up the ass and making vampires affraid of angles
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>>736809828

Why would they even mention the old game if it wasn't set in the game continuity?

Occam's Razor, Anon.

>>736809904

Sonia is non canon.
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>>736809857
He literally dies from fighting Dracula at the end of the book bro.
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>>736809917
>and making vampires affraid of angles
Someone must have been a Peter Watts fan.
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>>736805107
>Imagine if [an attempt at cloning Street Fighter] had contact damage [therefore a fucking Castlevania platformer shouldn't].
Enemies can specifically have attack animations to knock the player into pits, even if they don't have contact damage. Medusa Heads, for example, were specifically designed to be hard to avoid. They wouldn't have any purpose if touching one didn't actually do anything. You're conflating two completely different things: the full body always on damaging hitbox of an enemy, and the designer placing enemies that are likely to knock the player into a pit.
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Nah, he is the one that offs Dracula, I think. At least in CV lore, they have it that way. I don't remember the book but it's either him or Abraham that actually stakes Dracula. Either way he dies after the battle.

I get so much of Dracula mixed up with Anno Dracula, it's insane. Getting old.
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>>736809971

Oh, right. Its been a while. Eh, I doubt the books events happened 1 to 1 anyway.
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>guys guys guys, new 2D Castlevania!?! HYPE!11!one!
>look inside
>3d slop
>look closer
>numerous shader issues, poor AA implementation, fuzzy/out-of-focus foreground/background
>shitty distorted heavy outline on the character model like it is some low-budget modern digital art anime
I refuse to be hype for ANY Castlevania or Castlevania adjacent that isn't full 2D sprite-work. What I don't understand is why the Dead Cell guys, who clearly wanted to make a Castlevania game by the way Dead Cells plays (other than the rogue-like nonsense) decided to make a PIG DISGUSTING 3D game when Dead Cells had gorgeous 2D sprite work! When I head the Dead Cells guys were making a legitimate 2D Castlevania I lost my shit with excitement... until I saw the trailer and how HIDEOUS it looked with its DISGUSTING poojeet tier 3D characters and backdrops.
It looks alright though and I'd probably get it for the sake of nostalgia if it is on Switch 2 and 30 dollars or less (probably wouldn't play it on my PC, but it would be a good distraction at work). I liked Dead Cells (the studio's other game). This damn well better not be a rogue-like.
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>>736809932
>Sonia is non canon.
Yet here she is, anon. Unless that's another of Trevor's children, all of which are accounted for? Or maybe she's someone new, in which case, it's following the show's canon. Dickhead.
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>>736809932
why would they mention the show when it barely adapts the game, has a lot of changes and it does a terrible work when it actually tries to adapt something?
kill yourself faggot go shit up a different thread
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>>736803679
Castlevania is long overdue for an experimental 3D action game. Dark Souls doesn't really have what I like about Castlevania, so it would be like accepting the popular choice I don't really want.
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You know, a good way to tell for sure if it follows the game's canon or the show's canon is to see if the church is involved. If it is, then it's game canon. If not, then it's show.
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>>736810256
The church doesn't do shit in most of the games.
You should play them. They're fun!
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>>736810165

She's obviously Trevor's daughter or grandaughter here, because Legends has been non canon for decades. It really depends on how long after 3 its set.
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>>736810232
Castlevania Curse of Darkness was actually pretty great, but it was released when everyone was crying about 3D games, so it didn't do well. Basically everything about that game is brilliant
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>>736810297
>The church doesn't do shit in most of the games.
Are you stupid? The Belmonts are specifically stated to work for the church in most of the older games. The Belnades and Charlotte Aulin are witches who work for the church..
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>>736810165
Sonia from Legends was removed from canon under Iga.

The character is being restored to canon as Trevor's kid, try to keep up.
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>>736810085
>PoR is a stealth sequel of sorts to Bloodlines
Was based
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>>736810297
>doesn't do
tourist-kun...
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>>736810404
>stealth
Nah. It's a straight-up sequel. One of the player characters is even in it. Kind of. Incorporeally..
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Dead Cells is like Donkey Kong Country where they used images of 3D modeled characters to make 2D art. Years later and with a lot of effort, Dead Cells looks more 2D, but it's still made of 3D models.
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>>736810298
>it follows the events and lore of the games
>... ok maybe they will retcon things and not really follow the lore and events
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>>736810402
>remove Sonia
>put her back in as someone else
Oh, so she's like the same character in name only, huh? Like what they did with the show?
You're such a retard, holy shit.
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>>736810398
Canon games where the church doesn't do shit: 11
Canon games where the church does do shit: 3
Play the fucking games.
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>>736810496

Are you implying retconning in new Belmonts is something the series has never done?
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>>736810398
The Belmonts were branded as outcasts because of Leon abandoning his post to chase after the vampire, Walter until the Pope begged Trevor Belmont to save their asses centuries later in 1476.
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>>736810320
I liked a lot of Curse of Darkness, but it's more of a weird 3D action game, with like Pokemon elements, rather than seeming like Castlevania in 3D. Lament of Innocence felt a bit closer, though it also had a lot of weird decisions that aren't much like any 2D Castlevania. Except the Spanish one, I guess.
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>>736748867
Hmmm
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>>736810579
>Canon games where the church does do shit: 3
fucking hell, anon. Pleaser stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>736810545
>Like what they did with the show?

She was never in the show you stupid fuck. Konami is retconing Iga's retcon.
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>>736808929
I was hoped for her futa dick
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>>736810707
You're right, it should be 4. Oops.
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>>736781621
I was afraid of this. Guess I won't play it then
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>>736810256
Wasnt Joan of Arc a member of the church? She appears in the game, so the church should be involved too.
In fact, the CHURCH sends Trevor a letter in the first trailer.
So there it is.
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>>736810496
Legends ends with Sonia fucking Alucard and producing baby Trevor. Presumably they wanted to keep the name and look, without taking every story element.
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>>736810202
Don't respond to namefags anon. Also I kinda didn't mind the first season of Castlevania, but it went way off the rails with the slave girl in the second season.
>>736803679
>>736810232
Listen here zoomie, Souls ate off the Castlevania tree to make itself distinct. Castlevania respawns the map when you save (healed) at a statue. That's the only thing about Souls games that makes them "unique" other than being obtuse and clunky. So no, not interested in a 3D Castlevania. Castlevania at a snails pace with clunky combat wouldn't be fun. Castlevania is fun because you have a suite of abilities to engage with the map, your main adversary, and it is all about finesse and getting into a flow (though it is slow compared to modern games in this genre, but not the snail's pace Souls games move at). If it had even just half of the number of attacks coming at the player in a 3D world no one would be able to play it competently and it would fail.
I'd be interested in a 2D Castlevania that had experimental perspective shifts for segments of the map or boss fights however.
>>736810484
Didn't know that but frankly that's good enough. It is a convincing effect. Why didn't they use it on this game? There is a reason the modern Castlevania successor failed. Because they went 3D and it is not only a hideous game but it is hard to fucking read with all the bullshit light shafts, bloom, low poly assets, texture crawl, flicker and input delay (might be fixed now). Talking about Bloodstained RotN (obviously). It was such an abortion I'm not even interested in Scarlet Engagement.
Yes I'm aware of CotM 1 & 2, but they went a bit too retro, though INTI got way closer than ArtPlay did.
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>>736810590
i'm explicitelly saying that you are an idiot
if they are willing to retcon already established lore what is stopping them from doing the same to accomodate events from the show?
you nuked yourself on the foot
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>>736810807
She died in 1430, Belmonts Curse takes place in 1499. The influence of Dracula's Castle brought her back as a ghost or zombie.
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>>736810873
>Castlevania respawns the map when you save (healed) at a statue.
LOL
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>>736810885

So far nothing is being taken from the show, though. Except maybe the art style.

You gotta calm down man, your seething hatred for the show is making you go nuts.
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>>736810789
The first game involves the protagonist with a Bible. And a cross. They don't literally have the Pope present because they're usually about a muscular guy going to beat up Dracula. Still, they're clearly Christian where a cross is literally used to slay demons.
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>>736810935
Joan soul will be saved and as playable
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>>736810935
Ah, of course she hates the Belmonts then.
Pretty cool though, CV being somewhat fanfic-y with the history of the world was something that I liked a lot about the Morris games, hope they do it more.
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>>736811059
So the church isn't doing shit in them. Cool! Thanks for finally seeing the light, but you should still play the games sometime. They're really good!
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>>736810873
>Bloodstained RotN
What I dont' get is why Koji named the protag Miriam of all things. And old ass Scandiavian name. Thought it was supposed to be in fucking England not the Arctic Circle. Not that I really followed the story or got invested in the characters. Fucking game was such a grating mishmash of cultural styles it seemed like an asset flip. Unreal Engine vomit.
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>>736810579
>oesn't do shit: 11
tourist-kun.... you are making it worse
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>>736748867
>there is 0 fucking hype for this, what already went so wrong?
We've already got a new Castlevania though. Blasphemous 1 & 2. Why would I want this uggo Netflixified slop?
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>>736810873
Is she 16?
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>>736810873
Dark Souls but as Simon is "better than nothing" to me. I would also like it to take more from Castlevania 1 like jumping and ducking to avoid attacks and using a subweapon to help in fights. 64 at least has many platforming sections, more than like Lament of Innocence which is made almost entirely of flat hallways or the Lords of Shadow Uncharted climbing sections. I'd like Castlevania to try again at making a 3D game. It probably won't be what I envision, but it'll be an interesting experiment.
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>>736811303
Blasphemous sucks.
French devs>>>>>Spanish devs.
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>>736811304
No, she's "adult age".
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>>736811117
I like CV64 more
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>>736810873
>Bloodstained RotN (obviously). It was such an abortion I'm not even interested in Scarlet Engagement.
I really liked it and have hope that SE will be even better since they didn't need to spend time building up a foundation like with the first game and can focus more on gameplay improvements. Overall I give Bloodstained RotN a solid 8/10 at the least.
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>>736811362
>adult loli
Bizarre change
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>>736811435
She's never been a loli, theres just a lot of tall guys in Sequin Land.
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>>736811210
Where's the scene of Simon eating? Or going to the bathroom? Or sleeping? You need to assume most plot elements that aren't him killing a demon. Maybe they're working with the church so they have a supply of Bibles and crosses to practice fighting with. From what little it does show, it's clear elements commonly associated with Christianity are important to the Belmonts.
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>>736810960
>they will folow the canon of the games
>ok they might change things to force sonia in who cares
tell me what is stopping them from adding stuff from the show if they are already retconing things? i'm not asking what its in from the show

again, you are an idiot
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>>736811506

They're retconning in a popular character that was deemed non canon years ago. A non canon GAME. They're retconning in a GAME character. Nothing from the show has been added.

I'm so sorry the Netflix show raped your father, but think a little more.
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You know who else they should retcon into the canon timeline? Desmond.
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>>736811476
I shell wish her to be my loli daughters
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>>736811695
You just want his sisters in, don't you?
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>>736811503
I like how you quickly Googled who you play as in 1 instead of bizarrely referring to him as "the protagonist" but it'd be better if you just played the game.
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>>736811695

If we're bringing in non canon mobile Belmonts can it be Sepia? She has some rockin' tits.
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>>736811767
No, I want DESMOND in, because I am wholy aware of the shitstorm that would ensue, and that would be pretty damn funny.
I want his sisters too now that you mention it though.
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>>736748979
based, I like beefy men too
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>>736812172
Walking on thin ice there buddy.
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>>736748979
I like both. Handheld Casltevanias play better but Beefcake Castlevania is definitely more manly. I do want to throatfuck all the handheld/SOTN guys tho, no homo.
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>>736812305
Thinner than Simon's loincloth?
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>>736808941
Looks way better.
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>>736794153
Keep porting shit, the 3 collections are great, they're not just straight up ports, and yet they chose to forego SoTN.
That means they either are stupid, or they're making a remake which is equally as stupid.
They should also port the multiplayer one.
Anyway, the point is, in today's metroidvania filled world, you can't just put out a mediocre game with dubious canon. How many people were asking for another sonia game BUT with ties to the netflix show, and with a weird animated style that also gets interrupted by weird animations.
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>>736783316
Bleak
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>>736811616
so you can't give a single reason why they would not add something from the show despite being mentioned
>They're retconning in
ao they re not following the lore ot the canon of the games as you claimed

you are an idiot
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>>736813627

Oh, I see now. They MIGHT add something from the show, despite there being no evidence of such. Of course. How silly of me.

And a flock of doves MIGHT fly out of your ass tomorrow. I mean, if we're just wildly speculating here.
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>>736756613
The other guys mentioned specific examples, but they're referring to a genre of game that was really popular in Japan in the 80s/early 90s called "Bumper RPGs" where combat happened when you rammed into an enemy like a bumper car instead of pressing an attack button.
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>>736750569
As much hate as they get I love Castlevania 64,Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. They are different but undeniably Castlevanias. Lords of Shadow 1 was OK good shadow of the colossus/GoW clone. Bad castlevania game. Lots 2 was a mistake
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>>736750930
Loved this boy in Elden Ring
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>>736808941
Now THIS looks worth a fucking damn. Music seems alright too. Bit FURI-ish but not awful.
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>>736752549
Yeah, same
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>no contact damage
Finally good Castlevania and not outdated SOTC clone.
Dead Cells devs are based
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Couldn't they just patch contact damage in?

Or maybe add that to a hypothetical Hard Mode?
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>>736814307
>*walks through everything*
only reason it worked for dead cells is because it's more of a beat em up action game than a platformer and it had you had the rougelite progression system where you wanted currency both in-run and across-runs. When you only care about getting from point a to point b you can just walk past all the enemies 9and are encouraged to do so by the speedrun doors)
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>>736748867
The fact it doesn't look or sound like a Castlevania game and its art direction is tied so closely to the tv shows.
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>>736814409
no it's a fundamental design difference, any game where that could be a toggle has shit combat and/or level design
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>>736748867
its just a dead cells reskin
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>>736814517
It worked in Nine Sols
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The color palette looks soulless. The enemy design looks soulless. It's 3D model shit. I swear to fucking God, whoever Konami has in charge of making decisions for this franchise is a fucking colossal imbecile

>>736756613
You did contact damage to enemies in wolf form in SotN while running. Why do people worry so much about contact damage anyway? Speedrun bullshit? Just fight the fucking enemies and don't faceplant into them like a retard, it's the most natural thing in the world. Why would you not expect to take damage while walking into this?
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It had the unique illustrationstyle which could have been the artstyle for a nice 3d action adventure game. I know that women love that kojimas style.
Sad Konami fucked everything up.
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>>736814648
and nine sols is a terrible metroidvania. Fun bosses and narrative but there's no benefit to it being a metroidvania
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>>736812305
>using an anime girl to call anyone gay
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>>736814863
I liked that game a lot but honestly this is true
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konami doesn't have the internal talent to make a castlevania so who what studio should they have contracted to make a CV
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>>736812707
Post redhead Simon
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>>736813925
>no evidence
they mentioned it which is a huge thing already but they are also retconing things, so your argument is pointless and dumb.

can you guarantee that they will not consider retconning even more things to possibly include them? of course you can't because you would have to admit that you are an idiot that was, and is, moving the goalposts and that they are not following the canon as you claimed
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>>736814979

Can you guarantee they will? Can you be 100% sure they'll add something from the entirely separate show lore? Can you make an emerald city with these grains of sand?
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>>736814967
Kojima is a god but redhead Simon wasn't it
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>>736814979
they're retconning something that was already retconned actually
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>>736748979
you can beat all of the ones in the left in a day in a few hours if you're not retarded.
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>>736814967
Kojima is a great but redhead Simon is Super Saiyan God.
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>>736814961
Red Simon was a mistake
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>>736815110
they already mentioned the show and are retconning things, that gives enough reason to believe it is a possibility, idiot

but see how you can't even admit to be wrong about them not following the canon, because you are an idiot
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>>736815595
You really should know better than to be arguing with a namefag, Boco especially
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>>736815595
>retconning things
what? Sonia was already de-canoned
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>>736815649
Sadly, Boco is making more sense.
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>>736814967
Kojima is a retard who wishes he was a filmmaker but he's Japanese so he has a genetic debuff against comprehensible engaging story telling and a footfag.
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>>736748867
The enemies already feel like sponges
It's giving heavy Lords of Shadows flashbacks
It's filled with shining spots marked for whip or whatever mechanics they hold
Hitstop and shake

That's it for me.
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>>736750409
>What does this even mean anymore?
The best part about being a consumer is I can feel it, say it, not buy it, and not give a shit about the greater ramifications about the gaming industry.

I don't fucking know, you figure it out.
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>>736815812
but then you're less likely to get what you want, it's like punishing a kid and not telling them why
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>>736752525
> i don't like u
> go bankrupt plz :)
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>>736815674
hi boco, no you are not
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Yes he is, which is not a hard thing to do when the other retard is behaving like he is.
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>>736782487
I watched the entire trailer and thought it was a dude
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>>736814967
Take a good look at the anniversary logo, who do you see?

Certainly not the red haired Madonna Belmont.
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>>736816092
hi boco, no you aren't making sense
lmao he backpedaled hard about the new games following the canon when its in fact not doing that

he got mentally raped and can't give a proper answer or admit a mistake, and you are raped too :/ let me guess, uncle?
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>>736816205
>new games following the canon

They are.
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>>736815904
I don't live waiting for videogames to buy so that's not a problem.
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>>736758664
I love Shanoa. That is all
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>>736816261
if they have to retcon things and characters they are in fact NOT following the canon
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>>736816352
Because the old games NEVER retconned anything, right?
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>>736816352
I still wish Nathan was canon
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>This game is not canon
>We are taking a character from this game and making a canon game to put her in
>This canon game is canon, is on the main timeline, and we have proof of it
He will, somehow, find a gymnastic to justify his retardation.
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>>736816425
Nathan at least was in a good game, unlike Sonia and Carrie.
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>>736816465
>He will, somehow, find a gymnastic to justify his retardation.

It's probably a fetish for her at this point.
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>>736816293
but presumably you prefer a world where there are more things you like than one with less things you like
therefore you are proud of working against your own interests
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>>736815502
But he is so perfect
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>>736816394
so you admit that the new game is not following the canon? splendid, you are slightly less raped than boco
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>>736811362
Too old. Her age work similar to teenager witch.
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>>736816720
The new game is following the game canon, because they've given us no evidence to suggest otherwise. Damn you're thick.
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>He ignored the post
LMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO
Concession accepted, lil bro.
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>>736816790
sonia being in is a huge retcon, so no, you are not following the canon you are retconing things to include her in

damn you are raped
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>>736816880
So everytime a game series retcons anything, suddenly the entire series is noncanon to anything.

Wow, you really do make Boco look smart.
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>>736816824
you are more schizo than those two
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsZTolLYjbc
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Who said we are only 2? =)
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>>736816973
>noncanon
you are arguing that, im saying that if you havr to retcon things to include somwthing you are not following the canon and you can not claim that they are following the canon, i think you are smart enough to understand the difference between the two concepts unless you are as raped as boco
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>>736817095
That made absolutely no sense.
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>>736817095
That made a lot of sense.
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Im kinda hyped
should i play dead cells or their pop game?



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