What do you want for Metroid Prime 5?
>>736753615More myles mackenzie and open world kino.
>>736753615why do sequels always have to change stuff. what is so wrong with just doing the first game again but different. just do metroid prime 1 again but on a different planet. done.
>Instead of dying at 0 energy you lose the Power Suit, in the Zero Suit you have an emergency reserve of 99 energy and the emergency pistol (still in first person)>You have a chance of regaining your Power Suit through extreme danger>A boss will require you to lose all of your health as a mechanic so your Zero Suit form can access somewhere less accessible than the morph ball so you can shoot something that damages itthoughts?
>>736754846also>Reserve Tanks make a comeback but they're for your Zero Suit form
>>736754846good render
>>736754846I think the zero suit is gay sissy bullshit and the Metroid series needs less of it
>>736754846I think the zero suit is straight chad kino and the Metroid series needs more of it
>>736753615I think I just want Metroid Prime 1 2 at this point.>>736754980>the zero suit is gay sissy bullshitNo anon, that would be you projecting your repressed homosexuality onto a female character.>>736754846That said, I really don't want to play as Zero Suit Samus.Luv me Power Suit, shrimple as.Really luv me Gravity Suit. Mmmm purple.
>>736754846I think the zero suit is cool and hot but zero mission showed being forced into it fucking sucks
>>736755295Don't get me wrong, the zero suit may be gay sissy bullshit, but that's only because samus' crop top and shorts from fusion or her thong getup from super Metroid are far, far more interesting and sexy designs than a boring latex bodysuit The armor itself is sexier
>>736754971mercury steam's samus is my fucking wife
>>736753615I'm more interested in seeing what they cook up for Metroid 6.>>736754846I think Zero Suit Samus should be removed from the next Smash game.Eh, that sounds like it could get old really fast. Maybe it would be better to just have specific armorless sections rather than something that happens every time you hit a difficulty spike.
>>736753992>>736755295I agree with these anons who basically want Metroid Prime 1 again BUT they should try to adopt more 2D Metroid-isms to 3D to suitably sequel-ize it. Give us the speed booster already, dammit. Also, they really don't need to tape a macguffin hunt on there like they always do. Prime 1 could've just as easily ended with the phazon suit granting you access to a huge radioactive crater that you couldn't survive through previously. Not that I mind the artifacts as much as some, a few of them make pretty cool use of the X-ray visor, but functionally, it wouldn't be very different to just remove it and gate the final area with something else.
No Tanabe.
Nothing, i want Metroid 6.
>>736754846I want a game where you're only in the zero suit throughout the entire game and the game plays like a castlevania game with samus equipped with her plasma whip
>>736758109I know it's a modern FPS staple but I want a sprint feature in Prime, I want to feel that speed and acrobatic nature you get in Zero Mission and Dread
>>736758879Hell, Super had it.
>>736758943yeah I just played Redux which let me have it permanently enabled
>>736753615Open world for once, no more half assed hub world nonsense. Give me the future of gaming.
>>736759383The layers in this bait give it a unique texture, I recommend other anons try it
>>736760291>baitif the next Metroid isn't open world then take it back to the cook, tired of these paired down linear shits
>>7367536150 (zero) dialogue and 1 (one) human character (Samus)
>>736760427>Metroid but it's open world>but it's Metroid>so you still get abilities that grant you access to new areas>now it's just Metroidunless you're seriously suggesting they get rid of that form of gated progression in favor of making it stream of consciousness digital babysitter slop, in which case you have garbage pleb-tier taste and about a hundred other games you could play instead. And please, don't act like you posted OoT with a hi res texture pack NOT to fish for (You)s. I actually don't mind that part as much as others might but it's textbook bait.
>>736753615For it not to exist, Retro Studio has lost the sauce.
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>>736753823You joke but in a decade we'll be inundated by "Metroid Prime 4 was a misunderstood masterpiece" videos. You know it and I know it.
>>736754846Thanks anon, those are really good ideas. Stealing them my game.
>>736761905>now it's just MetroidSo tell us, tard-kun, which Metroid game did you get stuck in, that it got you so mad at the entire game's formula? you can tell us.
>>736753615Game to be good.Don't leave it in Dev purgatory for 20 years; that never ends well.
>>736758879How was the mobility in Prime 4, the same as always?>>736758380SEX
>>736762209Retro hired oodles of staff for the express purpose of working on Prime 4 so I'm willing to bet they put them straight to work on a follow-up afterwards, predominantly in-house thanks to the new muscle. That alone should make a big difference.I'd really like to know exactly what Bandai-Namco's version was, and how much of its skeleton remains in the final game, though. "Former LucasArts devs make Metroid" sounds fucking awesome on paper and you'd think they'd hard-commit to the adventure game aspects instead of the railroading that's prominent in the final game.
>>736755524the figmas worth picking up? kinda want to paint one to have gravity suit colors
>>736753615I'm playing Prime 4 right now and holy fuck, it feels like a 20 year old game. Zero innovation. Retro really needs to hire better game designers and writers. I bet the work environment must reek of toxic positivity, even the shittiest ideas are approved
At this point I just want to see how much more out-of-touch Nintendo could possibly be with their Western fanbase.>A>FUCKING>MARVEL>MOVIE
>>736762143I got the idea from DVA - Overwatch.
>>736762769maybe
Super's great and all, but it's very different to look at it through the lens of emulation as opposed to spending money for it in 1994. Emulating it? Phenomenal, fantastic, undisputed classic. But I think about the fact that a blind non-completionist run was a mere six hours... Think about how much longer some other SNES games from that time are for your money. Granted, Super is pretty much all-killer-no-filler, but still. Oh, and the point of no return is already bullshit even emulating it, but it'd be EXTRA bullshit if I paid full price for it and found I couldn't go back and collect more upgrades from the final save.
>>736753615i hope no new prime games are ever made and that Nintendo outright detests them all
>>736753615no space pirates, no metroids, no samus. just a video file of the prime 4 dev team being publicly floggedi'd pay 70 dollarydoos for that
>>736762182>crash out from fag who prefers Zero Mission over Metroid on the NES
>>736758109>adopt more 2D Metroid-isms to 3DI want a ridley fights that's just a damage race like all the good 2d ones, no weakspots no gimmicks just you 2 beating the shit out of each other
>>736763614I'm apparently anything you imagine or pretend me to be. Are you going to imagine I'm your girlfriend next, so that there's someone who loves you?
>>736753992why not just play the first game again then?
>>736763378I respect the intent
>>736763829>crash out fag is homosexual
>>736763865how is that the same thing at all? it's like you're retarded in the brain or something
>>736753992then you get Prime 4, so I would actually like different game but different, fuck fags who want the same shit rehashed
>>736763985you obviously never played prime 1, or probably 4 even
>>736763935Regardless you'll have to contend with a company that has "Make something new" in the entrance of its building when you walk into HQ and Miyamoto who gives the frown of shamefur dishpray to any project that's not reinventing the wheel.Seriously though, if you're not going to change anything, the first game is still right there. You're not "discovering" anything new in a sequel that does the same exact shit with better graphics. You're basically like a sports game fag at that point.
>>736764042My issues with Prime 4 are its similarities to Prime 1 and not capitalising on the risks it took. It was dumb to start in a foresty area, fight a plant boss, go to an ice area and explore a research facility, grab all the macguffins to open the final area, ect. Prime 4 is the Prime 1 designed by committee token release. No, I want different, I want open world, I want to explore large areas and find stuff, fag.
>>736753615Nothing. Ive given up. Just do another food 2d game like Dread
>>736753615It to never happen.>>736754846Mastectomy safe horny muscletranny garbage.SR ZS looked far, far better in-game and the art, too.
Prime 1 starts off strong then moves headlong into a stride so gallant that it's consistently difficult to put down for the first 6-8 hours, then peters out, piddles, and plods the second you hit Phazon Mines, to the point that I'm reticent in my even recommending it. And that's more than a condemnation of the Mines themselves, but also its adjacent backtracking. You'd think the artifact hunt would be a major point of congestion as well, but in reality, it flowed surprisingly well where the few ones I had remaining at the endgame necessitated ingenuous use of the X-ray visor, or in Phendrana's case, required using the grapple beam to access areas that I previously had not (then using the X-ray visor as well). That was actually kinda nice, despite getting there, by itself, being a bitch. The rest of them, I found pretty organically, and without need for any in-game hints. I think I took pic rel because it was the first one I came upon, very shortly into the overall game. But the lategame in general, from Phazon Mines onwards, is like the wind being actively sucked out of your sails by an outside force. I'm not precisely sure what it is. The samey-ness of the environments, or the fact that you're done finding any new ones at that point. The game expands very well, then arrives where it still wants to take considerable more hours of your time, without the expansion in your given area to do it. I guess this is all a hifalutin way to say the mandatory backtracking at the tail end of the game kinda fucking sucks. Phazon Mines might as well have been a final zone sort-of final stretch, similar to Tourian in the earlier games, where you just plowed through it to the end of the game. I am also mad that there are TWO spots necessitating the X-ray visor in Tallon Overworld that both lead to lousy missile upgrades, and I still do not understand why the path leading to the elevator that funnels you toward the wrecked frigate is one-way.
>>736764296this but good instead of food.
>>736753615I don't want Metroid Prime 5. Before another Metroid Prime game, I think Retro should be forced to make a dark sci-fi game in the spirit of Metroid, as an exercise in figuring out what's actually cool and appealing about Metroid, without having the brand as a crutch to lean on.
Fun pirate logs. 4's scans were a fucking bore.
>>736764865Metroid Prime Remastered was already supposed to be a tool for teaching the newer team how Metroid works. Something else along that vein would probably just be a remaster of Prime 2.
>>736764923Nope. That's a crutch. In their current state, current year Retro will NEVER understand what made Metroid cool while working within the Metroid series.
The original Metroid Prime devs were the Turok devs. Turok, of course, is fucking awesome. Dinosaurs, big guns, bloody and ostentatious. If current year Retro can't bring themselves to create a game with appeal to the masculine spirit, they won't ever be able to make good Prime. Simple as that.
>>736765461How are the modern remasters of the Turok games, if you have any idea? I've thought it was fucking awesome since I played it at my neighbor's as a kid but then my literal faggot uncle refused to get it for my birthday because it was M rated. I need to go back and play those and I imagine there's a better option than emulating the N64 games.
>>736765741They're good. Handled by Nightdive, and have QOL updates.
Why did they kill Ridley off to give us the most basic bitch boring villains ever? Can they just bring him back, make him talk, and then make him an actual major villain?
>>736766070I don't think the world is ready for another Metroid game that devotes any considerable time to plot or characterization after Other M. Dread had a good balance tho imo
Kill the Prime series. Make 3rd person Metroid instead. Souls-like but without short-range weapons
>>736767120No thank you, Other Mfag.>b-but it's completely differentI know what you are.No thank you, "Other M had potential!!!"fag.
>>736767120NINTENDOSUE THIS MAN NOW NOW NOW
>>736767120I'm not opposed to...the GIST of this. >Souls-like Whatever. The part of Souls that is Metroid-adjacent is already Metroid-like so we're just getting incestuous with the terms here. But yeah, I've been curious how a 3rd person shooter with a focus on acrobatic movement (and similar upgrades) would work for a while now. To be real, I think Metroid Prime 1 had an inflated for the reception from the fact that people heard "Western-developed FPS" and expected something vastly different from the generally faithful product we got. I'm not saying it isn't good, but like, "one of the top rated games of all time" good is kinda stretching it.
>>736767665had an inflated reputation*
MP5 Combat but with a world as complex a Stalker 2 or Metro Exodus [if it was all continuous]
>>736767120>Souls-like but without short-range weaponsgod I hate you souls faggots so much
>>736762445>I'm willing to bet they put them straight to work on a follow-up afterwardsPrime 4 is bombing anon. This is the end of Prime.
>>736768341It's not like they knew it would bomb when they had to decide what to start working on next.
>>736768341>This is the end of Primegood
>>736754980
>>736758380Metroid: Primal
>>736761905That's just Rabi Ribi... which shows that it is entirely possible to make a Metroid game like that.
I DONT WANT TO TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE
>>736762046Some retards tried to do that with Other M when Prime 4 released, they always got massively shat on, I expect it'll be no different for Prime 4.
>>736753615Samus adopts a baby Chozo.
>>736753615>you can choose between 1st and 3rd person like Resident Evil Requiem but can make it real time>RE6-like combat and movement>story is the Hunters sequel that we should've gotten, Samus is alone again, all the Hunters come back and they're the bosses of each areaMetroid Prime already has a 3rd person mode when you enter in Morphball mode so adapting that for a 3rd person perspective shouldn't be a problem
>>736764709disagree.
>>736771043with what
>>736758154Well, you ARE getting that. Jury's kinda out on whether or not Tabata will be any better though
>>736767120I'm not opposed to nintendo trying a 3rd person 3d metroid again but>kill the prime serieswhy
Samus trapped in ball form without any powers and getting bullied and humiliated for her vulnerability
I hate the Other M Samus design. It’s very simplified but while the suit itself is unremarkable, the arm cannon is a true travesty. Looks like a cheap water gun you’d see in the Walmart discount bin.
>>736762821I suspected it was you from that other thread a couple days back. Here's a D.Vmus image I remembered exists.>>736774672I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't.
>>736774847the mechanics, sure, but visually? I've always felt like Pharah had alot of Samus DNA in the suit design
Let him come back and actually do things.Also, you can still have him be a villain but I think he works best as secondary isolated villain, similar in nature to dark samus in prime 2, than as the main big bad.In prime 2 the Ing are the main antagonists. Dark samus isn't allied with them or even really related to them in any way. She just wants to gorge herself on the phazon on aether and dark aether.Sylux is a bounty hunter, he should be an isolated force. He shouldn't be leading his own army, he shouldn't be some kind of big bad you work your way up to.Hes another bounty hunter, just like samus. In fact he's weaker than her. But he's an intelligent schemer and is willing to do whatever it takes to be better than samus. They needed to play into that more. He is the koi to samus' dragon. Ambitious scheming underdog villains are kino.
>>736774923Definitely agree on that.>>736774982How did he even become leader of the Space Pirates?
>>736775613After he hatched and imprinted himself on a metroid at the end of federation force, he took it and performed experiments and made his own breed of parasitic mind controlling metroids.He used these take over a bunch of the space pirate forces since they were in disarray with no leadership at the time of prime 4.
>>736753615Just pretend that Prime 4 or really anything after 2004 didn't happen. Make an actual Metroidvania and don't make me look at or interact with a single human face or federation trooper.>Oh muh Hunters, muh SyluxActual substanceless mystery boxes.>>736754846Zero suit is safe horny bullshit that is now the only eroticism Samus is allowed to display. I like it, but it's displaced almost everything else. At least the full suits are becoming increasingly erotic.>>736758109Speedbooster would need a strong deviation from standard dual analog control schemes to work. You wouldn't even be able to entertain the delusions of people who think you only need the right stick for camera controls.>>736758879>SprintGross. This only exists in FPS games so that they can switch between moving fast and aiming fast, because the dual analog control scheme is so bad that you can't compensate for one while doing the other.The only correct way to do this is to give the player a throttle controller and a mouse.>>7367671203rd person is just cope for how bad console controller 3D is, and is also just an excuse for the artists to make guro animations.>>736759383Open world is always just a level select with collectibles, Prime 4 is open world, a hub world is more condensed. >>736760427Open world can also be linear, like Shadow of the Colossus.
>>736753615More Myles MacKenzie, please.Thank you.
>>736776380It's kind of just dawned on me, I don't think the Space Pirates have been a threat in the main series since Super. You think they might come back for Metroid 6 or is it better to just move on?
>>736777370I feel like we could get new enemy faction.
>>736776516No, you're dumb.
>>736753615Etecoon and Dachora petting minigame
