the gameplay is dogshit. It might have deep systems but those don't matter when the gunplay is terrible. Halo/Destiny shooting mechanics don't work in an extraction shooter.

>>736803746
Tranny shit and eye bleeding color scheme.

>>736803746
>let's make the game look like the rape mattress from the tunnels under the chabad building that will sell copies

>>736803746
>target game at 0.0001% of the population
>0.0001% of the population play it
seems like it achieved its goal

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>>736803746
Your obsession with this game is insane. Why do HAVE to talk about it 24/7?

>>736803746
they hired riot devs

>>736803746
I've never cared for these types of games so I just have to take everyone's word for it that they're the hottest shit and everyone but me is clamoring to play them. So I guess there are too many and the genre is oversaturated? I have no idea.

>>736803746
zero depth to the game. Everything is just unlocking more passive traits or overpriced guns and mods in the shop. You have to pay an exorbitant fee to get a decent loadout so u just run sponsored or free kits all the time and it gets old fast. There aren't that many guns compared to something like Tarkov or Hunt Showdown and a solid half of them are overpriced or straight up not for sale and have to be found in raid.

There are only three real maps, they're all too small and the game has none of the mystery or sense of a greater world that halo and destiny both had. Sure there's lore entries in the codex but I can read those off a wiki page or hear them in a youtube video. The quests don't have any narrative weight. You just go in, do some busy work and try to leave. The PvP is ok but not nearly good enough to make up for zero narrative and weak immersion. Destiny and Halo made it feel like you were in an actual universe and there were tiny details everywhere. They were clearly made with love and care, and this seems like much more corporate slop reminiscent of the shitty Destiny expansions we've been getting for the past few years. You vill grind the upgrade tree and be happy.

IK people didn't like the artstyle, but I actually really did even though it was basically copied from the Europa zones in Destiny 2. But cool visuals don't make up for a shitty game. They should've just focused on making more good Destiny updates rather than killing that game and launching another that will die before too long as well. Bungie really fell off.

>>736804406
You are free to cry about it helplessly

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>>736803746
Brutal.

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>>736803746
Nothing really too wrong gameplay wise imo. It's just that Bungie spent way too much developing a super niche game for hardcore/serious players, and then tried to market it toward the casual crowd. If they had actually budgeted properly, then they would've been in the green - but nah. Hopefully this finally kills Bungie. You can only pull off so maybe retarded moves without facing the consequences.

>>736803746
goty

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I personally think the game is excellent, but as for the business case:
>missed their timing window; Arc Raiders beat them to market and stole their audience
Just got super unlucky with the timing. This is sort of why fast development times should be prioritized over perfectionism. It's likely a buggier version of Marathon performs better if they just beat Arc Raiders to market.
>artstyle is just too weird for mass appeal; if you want to make money you should never deviate too much from comic book hero rosters or mil-sim aesthetics
I think it's cool as shit, so I'd fight like hell to keep it too. But that means you really gotta shore up everything else. Maybe should have thrown Timmies a bone by compromising the character designs, at least a couple of them.
>design is too punishing for casuals; for a game to succeed you need to ensure that everyone including bad players "wins" (extracts) at least 50% of the time
They need to add bot lobbies to suck up players who haven't ex-filled in their last three runs.
>new player onboarding sucks; it's both too short to teach more than the raw basics and not idiot-proof (bad players can get stuck on the tutorial)
Difficult to pitch because it's expensive, but they should have basically made like a heavily scripted, hour-long campaign version of the game loop with story chatter and everything.

Also, I think the icons don't do a great job of conveying what the loot actually does. It's far from the worst I've seen but they really needed to focus test the shit out of this since it's so core to the gameplay and a lot of people aren't familiar with extraction shooters.

Hope they're able to address because the game truly is very good.

>>736803746
Nothing, I fucking love this game. Greatest multiplayer game of the last 10 years

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>>736803746
>What went wrong bros?
It happens to be heavily disliked by people who never played it or are soft skinned

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What annoys me the most is that in the past this sort of game would have been defended/celebrated on /v/ and gamer forums because it's just really good even though it doesn't have mass casual appeal. One of those games where even though it isn't successful, you get to feel like you're part of the cool club of tasteful gamers who appreciate it. But now that everything is engagement bait, every forum is infected by retards who haven't played (or did but sucked) who just HAVE to get their thoughts out there even though their thoughts are worthless.

>>736803746
Seething incels for some reason made this game failing their hill to die on and every day it survives puts another stake in their black hearts

>>736804681
Hunt is so underrated. Glad it's still kicking.

It's not deep or hardcore like people try to say, it's just tedious. No substance at all.

>>736803746
This is the first game ever that made me understand why IRL soldiers go through piles of magazines in close quarter engagements, even small ones with relatively contained casualties.
The kind of pressure this game puts into you to lock down the enemy crews and provide cover fire while searching for any heat source in your thermal LMG scope is insane. Sometimes you just want to make sure the enemy is not peeking

>>736805339
Megablox the video game

>>736803746
Between the issues with Destiny 2, the plagiarism scandal and the early playtests apparently having no NDAs and the general turn against live service people had already decided that the game was a failure like two years before it even came out, and their only attempts to change public opinion was sponsoring a bunch of streamers who had no interest in the game to play for an hour which unless your game is something simplistic and arcadey with no learning curve always just makes it look even worse.

>>736803746
Not much imo. Its the only multiplayer game I've enjoyed in over a decade. Needs more maps and more shells and more gear but its supposed to build up over time. I like it.

>>736805604
This game isn't good. If it was it wouldn't have lost over 70% of its players in a month

>>736805604
>Listen up chud I might be a goy but that doesn't mean I've replaced my blood with sóy
Okay sister. Whatever you say

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>>736803746
> yet another piece of low quality, soulless, trendchasing slop made for a bazillion dollars
> requiring and expecting millions of mindless whales to break even, let alone survive
Guess we'll just never know

>>736803746
>Characters
Ugly
>Maps
Boring
>Guns
Look retarded
>Gameplay Rewards
Meaningless
>PvP
Optimized for being a dickass

There wasn't a single chance this shit didn't burn up and die.

ban Marathon hate threads

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>>736806380
Back in the day it was widely understood that quality didn't always correlate with sales/audience appeal. Sometimes art only reveals its quality if you're willing to put in that extra bit of effort to appreciate it. That's WHY terms like "cult classic" and "hidden gem" exist at all. Zoom zooms are so thoroughly corrupted by social media conformity and reward immediacy that they cannot conceive of this. If you were the gaming audience 15 years ago, Fromsoft would have gone bankrupt and CRPGs would have died permanently. The only reason any of those cool genres you play for the gamer cred exist is because older gamers took a chance on something that wasn't mainstream sanctioned.

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>>736807040

>>736803746
They hired Joe Ziegler.

>>736804474
There aren't many extraction shooters, but it's a niche genre enough to approach saturation. I mostly like how Marathon turned out, but banking on an extraction shooter was pretty dumb.

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>>736805843
yup

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>>736804483
>You have to pay an exorbitant fee to get a decent loadout
What?
>Destiny and Halo made it feel like you were in an actual universe and there were tiny details everywhere.
This is also true for Marathon, you are just too alert at all times to notice.

>>736806597
>Marathon
>Soulless

>>736807369
>Those solid 3 seconds of magdumping a bubble shield
Huh?

>>736807540
I do though, I really like the art style of it. I just wish it weren't a PVP extraction shooter, is all.

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>>736807040
>>736807108
> good games are good games regardless of popularity
> therefore unpopular games must always be good games
Real big brain hours here.
> fromsoft, CRPGs, niche classics, hidden gems
Which of those started with gigantic playerbases and all the marketing in the world from the megacorps before shrinking down to niche status weeks later?

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>>736807642
If Bungie manage to turn the ship around, maybe we'll get a Classic Marathon remake.

>>736803746
Destiny gameplay was made for dying and getting back up, not this.

>>736807747
I mean sure, but I don't think people would want a remake of Marathon with that style.
I'd be interested in something new in the series in that style, though.

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>>736803746
Bungie is just thousands of HR diversity hires.

>>736807651
He said quality doesn't always correlate with popularity so we can just ignore your fake logic leap

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>>736807574
> a game that only exists to follow the newest buzzwords
Anon it's been almost 30 years since Marathon had soul and 16 years since the last time Bungie even made a decent game.
Don't pretend that there is some noteworthy connection here.

>>736808102
>"people" still use that disingenuous comparison when the right was long since discovered to being unofficial art by some guy

>>736804905
>>736805197
It ultimately cost way too fucking much for what it is and the target audience it's directed at. All it's issues are conceivably fixable. More content can be made and the pastel crayon vomit style is ugly as sin, but that be toned down or altered as long as they have the humility to accept it. But there's just no climbing out of a 200 million dollar hole no matter how much course correcting you do. How the fuck did they even manage to spend that much money? Are dialation commisars at bungie paid more then google executives?

>>736808049
Speaking of leaps in logic.
He specifically said good games would've died because of the retarded leaps he projected onto >>736806380
Tell me, which niche classics, hidden gems or CRPGs started with a huge playerbases and priority megacorp marketing to then shrink down to their niche status weeks after?

>>736807905
>I don't think people would want a remake of Marathon with that style.
Why not? Cryo Archive looks pretty damn good, so a full game in Marathon's interior would work nicely, I think.

>>736805197
>Just got super unlucky with the timing. This is sort of why fast development times should be prioritized over perfectionism. It's likely a buggier version of Marathon performs better if they just beat Arc Raiders to market.
What? They were at a perfect time to release. People were bored of Arc and craving something new, no other big game releases at this time, every big streamer moved on from Arc. There couldnt be a more perfect time and it flopped because the game isn't all that. It just isn't.

>>736807935
Extraction shooter is a meme genre for tranny autists

>>736808102
I don't care about the connection to the original. I'm taking Marathon at face value and I find plenty of soul in it.
https://youtu.be/VH_RCO9gw0Q

>>736808223
WoW has lgbt events nowadays.
The image doesn't claim to be authentic. The comparison is correct regardless.

I find it retarded how mods keep deleting threads about how shit this game is doing

It pisses me off that mods keep deleting threads right as I'm writing what I like about this game.

>>736808281
>the pastel crayon vomit style is ugly as sin
I like it. If Marathon was another milsim or generic sci-fi shooter, I wouldn't have gotten curious about it. I understand that it's divisive, but I'm glad Bungie went with this style.

>>736808419
I've not seen Cryo Archive my apologies.
I mean more that the style of the new game is VERY different to the style of the old and I imagine that just remaking the originals in the style would probably annoy more people than please.
I for one think it would be kind of lame to just retread the same stuff. Give us more from the universe.

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>>736808367
>Tell me, which niche classics, hidden gems or CRPGs started with a huge playerbases and priority megacorp marketing to then shrink down to their niche status weeks after?
New Vegas and Dark Souls. Retard.

>>736808709
There's like ten threads a day for this game I'm sure you've got your opinion across

>>736809140
Dunno if people talk about video games, I don't get why there can't be multiple threads about the same game? There's a bunch of eceleb and coomer shit that in no way relates to video games, but then suddenly threads shitting on Marathon are deleted?

>>736809241
There's many threads per day about it where you can say whatever you want

>>736809241
This is a common trend that I have been seeing for years. Game that get too many threads for a while have their threads deleted.

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>>736809083
You're wasting your time on >>736808281. It's no longer enough for retarded philistines to have every corpo pander to their banal, uncultured tastes. They now demand that they must be celebrated for it. Just like those pop music podcasts that pretend to analyze the "complexity" of every formulaic hit single, the lowest common denominator gamer now must have an entire slopulist youtube critic industry that praises them for every dumb opinion they have. It's not even sincere. These content creators are entirely financially dependent on the whims of their audience; they cannot deviate from mainstream thought even if they wanted to.

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>>736803746
2 core things.
>GaS games have reached their limit. Just about every person that likes vidya now has what I call a "hobby vidya" they spend a couple hours a week to do dailies or check on whatever new update it has. Back then a PvP game main competition is whatever yearly PvP vidya came that yerar or last. Now it has to compete with games that have been going on for years and you basicvally have to convince people that have invested hours or time and money in one game for yours.
>Comp bubble is bursting. Alongside GaS the rise of ranked/comp focused games have also risen. The days of casual unbalanced wacky bullshit that the Arena FPS popularized has been taken over by more rigid game design with constant rebalncing and a focus on "serious" gameplay with e-sports scene and streaming e-celebs. This style of vidya has been the rage for years but overtime it's clear that the average consumer has slowly gotten sick of it. This rigid style of PvP has made games too sweaty and made feel more like a slog. Many people are starting to want to go back to when vidya was less serious and can be something to be used to relax too. This is a problem for Marathon because it's entire identity is built around a very comp focused Extracation Shooter and is bleeding number to Arc Raiders which- despite some people snarkly criticizing it for the oppisite being "Care Bear Raiders"- is at the end of the day still paltapible for most people
Tl;DR GaS is a flooded market and it's too sweaty for normies to get into.

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I miss Halo 3 bros.

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>spend weeks grinding rep to build up my Rook so I can just chillax and go into raids without any pressure
>load up Outpost, expecting there to be like a 3-4 Rook limit given how small the map is
>die 5 minutes in after killing 6 fucking rooks
>literally never left my spawn building
What is the fucking point of the Rooks? Every potential utility they have is covered by runners with a free loadout in a solos match. You can't even do missions with them for fucks sake.

>>736804089
this
even if the mechanics were good it still looks awful

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>>736803746
>posting daily about marathon
Doesn't this get boring?

daily marathon seethe thread

>>736810457
Average anon has autism

>>736810457
no not at all
especially when the numbers keep falling

>>736803862
the gunplay is one of the best parts of this game
the dogshit part is the extraction gametype

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>>736809092
>I've not seen Cryo Archive my apologies.
I've seen it only once in person, using the free Cryo kit you could only use once. We failed to extract because I didn't know how to. We also didn't come across other players, interestingly enough. Now that I know more about Cryo Archive's mechanics, I understand that these facts are linked.
>I imagine that just remaking the originals in the style would probably annoy more people than please.
I don't think that there are enough original Marathon fans out there for this to be a factor. Besides, looking that the style of said games, there really isn't much to work with. The only remake that successfully stayed faithful to its ancient original's style is System Shock, and that only worked because the original had an amazing style. Let's be honest here, Classic Marathon doesn't have an amazing style, and neither do its sequels.
>I for one think it would be kind of lame to just retread the same stuff.
I don't think that a remake of Classic Marathon would be a retread. It would be more like original Doom vs Doom Eternal (or Doom 2016, I don't know which one is the good one (well, original Doom is, it still holds up, plays even better than modern boomer shooters like Dusk. Fuck Dusk.)). Also, new Marathon seems to be a proper reboot, so it would be financially wise to direct the fans curious about who the fuck is Durandal to a new title instead of a 30 year old free game with admittedly decent shooting and janky puzzles.

Weird that older game devs managed to add multiplayer modes to their single player games but now they can't even add a PvE mode to their multiplayer games

>>736810031
nobody played the 360 on a ctr, fucking zoomers

>>736810457
>dopamine from bashing a dead horse
>dopamine from defending a dead horse from bashers
one of these makes more sense than the other

>>736810654
Uh I did
Though I live in the second world so

>>736810634
Because PvE mode ruins extraction shooter.
That is exactly what happend with Tarkov. PvE mode split the playerbase and allowed casual to hide there.

Travis North and Jeff Gerstmann like the game, must be good. Too bad /v/ is too busy fellating Crimsaar desert to appreciate actual kino

>>736810749
>Because PvE mode ruins extraction shooter. That is exactly what happend with Tarkov.
REALLY? You think THAT was what killed Tarkov? Not the absolutely rampant cheating that went completely unfixed by the devs for years?

>>736810787
>Travis North
I have seen this name pop up here so many times this week
Why are you making faggot game journalists famous

>>736810342
>What is the fucking point of the Rooks?
Risk free scavenging.

>>736810906
>Risk free scavenging.
Again, free kit runner accomplishes the same thing, arguably better.

>>736810834
The cheating problem is GREATLY exaggerated

>>736803746
It only appeals to a minority of people in a niche genre

>>736810878
People seethe at the mention of his name because he gave their favorite game a 6 and Marathon a 9.

>>736810967
Doesn't matter. It caused outrage in the playerbase and the dev's response was "lol cry more"

>>736810634
I've never seen an extraction shooter with multiple modes. I don't imagine that would work well due to the genre's nature. You would either have to be playing basically a different game that doesn't affect your extraction shooter progression, or you would be getting resources and XP from what is basically a different game to get an advantage in the main game.

>>736808434
Even still, bungie being full of trannies doesn't help. Destiny was so much better before the tranny infestation

>>736810949
Wrong.
>Rook spawns with a green shield and a green backpack from the get-go
>Rook gets gray implants, gray cores, 3 claymores, and a green gun with a silencer with only a few upgrades
>Rook spawns ~halfway into a match, so there are less teams out there
>Rook can blend in with UESC, so free secured resources and guarded exfils
>With later upgrades, Rook gets a blue backpack and a shotgun
Free kits are just an option for when you are broke or don't want to take risks for a contract.

>>736811024
>and the dev's response was "lol cry more"
wdym?

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i've played thousands of hours across all extraction shooters, frankly speaking marathon will die unless they do sweeping economy and damage changes. The problem with Marathon is that it only appeals to poopsockers, NEETs, streamers. If you don't treat it as a day job in a trio you're fodder for everyone else.

It's even more punishing than Tarkov to play, which is an incredible feat considering how autistically punishing tarkov is.
>need to run hours of quests just to unlock basic bitch garbage gear
>everything is sold at exorbitant prices
>2x2 """valuable""" purples don't even cover the cost of a shield+backpack
>gear matters, but there are no equalizers like headshots or shield crackers, so you just get gunned down by purple shield longshot demons all day
>perks and levelling give insanely noticeable permanent boosts with no way of losing them, but the downside is that it takes hundreds of hours to unlock single trees
>basically if you're not shitting in a sock every wipe you get fucked by people who are
>map design is full of chokepoints which constantly forces fights
>they aped tarkov's dogshit value barter items but maps are way too small to sneak around to pick up barter items in the first place
>no safe asshole slot
>rook (scavs) encourage you to throw yourself into trios with WSTR/knife/claymores and nothing else
>weapon balancing is dogshit, you have two OP weapons, five viable, and for everything else you're better off running in and knifing
>the whole concept of cryo is retarded, you have to clear lobby to even attempt the pve boss. People interested in pve aren't gonna be wiping lobbies, and people who wipe lobbies aren't interested in pve.

they spent over 200 million to attract the smallest nichest audience in an already niche genre. What were they even thinking

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>>736803746
>make a shooter with a K shaped balance curve
>act surprised when those on the bottom curve all leave and those on the top curve all become increasingly more toxic and sweaty

>>736810654
uh.. i did
LCD's sucked for gaming, they still do unless you find one that's 120hz or some new bullshit technology, and even then it's not as good as a CRT for response times rofl

>>736810654
I did.

>>736810457
Schadenfreud is a well known thing. Bungie has also scorned so many of their fans that there's a lot of people praying for their downfall

>>736811986
>>2x2 """valuable""" purples don't even cover the cost of a shield+backpack
You aren't supposed to sell salvage, retard.

>>736805604
>this sort of game would have been defended/celebrated on /v/
It is celebrated. The death spiral of this game has brought much entertainment.

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>>736803746
>Design an entire game around requiring to be part of a coordinated 3 man discord team and having a 2nd monitor for having a youtube video to explain how to solve purposely obtuse cryptic puzzles with zero in game explanation and a community made map site to show all the pre-positioned spawn points and possible extract sites that the game doesn't show itself

Ever since Destiny 1 Bungie's been stuck in this mindset of needing to shove MMO mechanics in their FPS. That shit should have staid exclusive to the Destiny series, Marathon reboot should have been it's own thing.

The current end game is basically fighting inside a tiny "puzzle" filled PvP arena with the ultimate goal of trying to fight an MMO raid boss in an extraction shooter setting where "solving" the puzzles require you to grind RNG items in other maps before risking your gear in this one. If you join a random team who don't know what's going on and didn't grind those keys, part of the map is simply locked out for you.

The current playerbase is eating itself if you look at the leddit threads. All the casuals left and now the semi-hardcore players are getting farmed by the no lifers and cheaters until they're gone too and the next rung of try hards get farmed.

>>736812742
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the treasures that auto-sell and fill out the codex, I haven't gotten a purple one of those yet but I know the blues are all just 1k which can get you a green shield+backpack but I don't think it's enough for a blue of either.

>>736803746
There's no saving this shit. The lead game designer was warned by his dev team to add a pve mode cause the game is too unforgiving to anyone not part of a premade group. Solo mode was added last minute and not balanced literally because of lore reasons. Random matchmaking is literally no longer viable with a tiny playerbase. Imagine playing apex or fortnite except all the top players already spawned in with full gold items right off spawn every match.

>>736803746
>live service extraction shooter that has to use an abandoned legacy franchise's name for notoriety
no one is asking for more live service extraction shooters, the market was already served.

>>736805339
That ttk is retarded

>>736812742
Missed the point of the post entirely. He's making broad claims based on the game economy. How much you risk, how much you get. what playstyles are viable. How other players are reacting to the incentives.

>>736811986
>unless they do sweeping economy and damage changes.
If anything, they're listening to sweaty r/ types and moving in exactly the wrong direction, say with the knife changes which make zero difference to the people at the top but are even harsher on everyone below purple shields and favor more WSTR players.

And people are behaving predictably in cryo. Forming up, and creating teams of 6 or 9 with shared screens that try to get on the same instance, and in all cases trying to clear the server and trying to make sure nobody else gets to extract at all.

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>>736810654
i did, i would bring a 13 inch crt to my friend's house on the weekend to play halo 3. i was actually pretty late to switching to lcd because i liked playing guitar hero and hated having to adjust the latency settings since crt had no latency. it was probably like 2011 or 2012 when i made the switch.

>>736814001
It's worse than that. They metooed and removed the previous lead designer who wanted a continuous huge map where people could seek PVP, or seek PVE as they liked more, and threw in the ultra darwinist valorant hero guy.

>>736803746
It might not be concord 3, but its more fun to call it concord 3 than it is to actually play it, making it spiritually concord 3.

>>736814408
wait, actually, i think it was after i graduated, so 2013 or 2014

>>736810878
He's been promoting himself.

>>736810967
It's porportional to your play level. For a shitter like you, it's not a problem. For good player on ranked, we've seen streamers literally quit over the issue.

And the best part is, as the population contracts, you're going to see more blatant cheating at your level eventually.

>>736803746
>What went wrong bros?
Snoy trying to market a late-to-the-party bandwagon entry in a niche-ass genre and market it like it's the next Halo or Destiny alone ensured this shit was destined for failure. And also developed by the most trooned studio in all of AAA.

>>736814512
Concord was made by ex bungie, and was bought and accelarated because of bungie's advice. And most importantly, it suffers from the same arrogant toxic positivity that killed Concord. I consider them directly linked.

>>736803746
Marathon's entire game would have just been some experimental "fuck it, why not" mode in a bigger game if Halo-era Bungie had made it.

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Here's how you can save marathon

>>736813395
Isnt the puzzle super simple? Its just push the button on the 3 monitors in the correct order, you dont need a guide for that. The issue is while you do that you get ambushed by a guy wirh a TTK of. 6 seconds making it unfeasible.

>>736810654
I had a 36 inch sony hd trinitron. I sure did

>>736803746
The gunplay in this is terrible. I was on watch on a mesa while the other 2 looted/did quest shit in a building and clearly saw another trio setting up outside. I'm holding a semiauto AR with optic and plink heads from cover. No kills, team gets btfo inside while a single runner spams me with auto fire and kills me after a few hits. Whether it's gear or perks, those sloppy fucks should have been dead. If you can't beat a superior kitted team when their pants are down, then the game is just pure grind, and that sucks.

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I can't get over this guy's meltdown
>can't wait to see the steam numbers to make the chuds cry
>WE MUST ABOLISH STEAM NUMBERS, THEY'RE TOXIC

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>>736806597
>soulless

>>736814607
> For a shitter like you, it's not a problem. For good player on ranked, we've seen streamers literally quit over the issue.
Tarkov has no ranked mode, retardinio

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>>736815281

>>736803746
>Extraction shooter
That.

>>736803862
>It might have deep systems
It doesn't. Unless you consider a "Vendor" a deep system.

>>736816182
It's telling when even reddit is tired of "incel chud". I wonder what the next "insult" will be

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>>736803746
>look at my reddit and twitters pics, take that tranny!
daily cope thread for the chuds

>14 hours a day every day for a month
What level of mental illness is this

>>736817212
I also like the game, but seriously, dude, get a life. How can you even stomach playing the same game so much?

>>736810526
The gunplay is literally just point and click. Everything is hitscan. It's like the laziest way to make a shooter wtf are you talking about the best part.
Nigga has only ever played marathon, literally first fps if that's your opinion.

>>736817419
>Everything is hitscan.
wrong

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>>736817212
YOU LOST TRANNY
MARATHON DIED THIS WEEKEND FOREVER
ENJOY CRYING ABOUT BUNGIE LAYOFFS LMAO

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>it's losing to saarfield

>>736817505
now THAT's an impressive feat

>>736810457
Linus don't you post daily about tech news?

>>736817505
LOOOOOL 6 7

>>736810457
No, I'm having a blast. In it for the long haul

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Funny because this game got delayed and bungie was hearing people criticism to make a better game, than they released a game exactly how everyone was expecting them to develop at first place.

>>736817505
>67
SIX SEVEN

>>736804681
This game is $40???? I thought it was F2P!

>>736817741
It's $40 + battle pass + paid skins + paid expansions(none out yet but confirmed)

>>736817348
i'm 42 and retired. tell me about the most fulfilling thing you've done in the past ten years, and i prob did it ten years earlier.

>this is what a 9/10 game is according to IGN
kek

>>736817779
man, who the fuck is unironically buying skins for the shit excuses for characters in Marathon?

>>736817798
I'm 32 and was able to have multiple world first raid clears in multiple different MMOs and a few world first to max level.
I've been grinding MMOs since I was 9.

>>736817814
The guy that gave Marathon a 9/10 gave Halo 5 a 10/10, I'm not joking

>>736817867
>who the fuck is unironically buying skins
There are people saying that if you like the game and want it to live you need to buy skins, battle passes, and extra copies for your friends then play with them.
Also trying to steer people towards Playstation so Sony can get a larger cut.
Yes these posts exist.

>>736817671
The problem is they likely had streamers and e-sports players playtest the game to make it "good" and made a game specifically to appeal to those types. The absolute sweatiest of the sweats.

And honestly? That isn't an inherently BAD thing. I wouldn't play a fighting game and complain
>Woah, this shit is too hard. Why can't they make it more accesible?
Fuck that shit, I hate normies ruining my shit. I think it's totally fair- even respectable- for somethi9ng to appeal to the most dedicated and autistic of its fans.

The problem is this mindset only really works when applied to a sensibly funded game that is aware that it's niche. This is not feasible for a multimillion dollar budget that is SUPPOSED to sell gangbusters to the widest audience there is. Marathon is the equivalent of A24 blowing over half a million dollars on one of their films.

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>>736817867
>man, who the fuck is unironically buying skins for the shit excuses for characters in Marathon?
Goycattle

>>736803746
It's too good for the retarded zoomer masses

>>736818274
Zoomers are the only ones playing this slop

>>736814980
>The issue is while you do that you get ambushed by a guy wirh a TTK of. 6 seconds making it unfeasible.
Oh, it's way worse than that. The entire meta is to wipe the map of all other teams. Normal people aren't even getting to the point where they can even make the attempt.

>>736817212
Q: What's the best counterplay to the disenjector?

>>736816446
>I wonder what the next "insult" will be
I expect some sort of pivot around the israel palestine conflict.

>>736818274
It seems to be the exact opposite. The number one and consistant complaint the game has it's that it demands too much of your time and effort.
The game feels like it's tailor made for Gen Z and Alpha who are younger and have less responsibilities to dedicate themselves to mastering the game. Meanwhile everyone over 25 seems to just find this game too exhausting.

>>736817505
I should play L4D2 again.

>>736817980
Are any of them NOT made by an employee?

>>736818090
And even then some level of pandering so you don't drive away all the fucking normies isn't a bad idea. This game has loads of people people who played it, reviewed it highly and then just completely quit.

>>736818518
>Q: What's the best counterplay to the disenjector?
distance and range weapons with thermals, spam nades to keep them back. not much else you can do

>>736803746
looks like shit
plays like shit
made by retarded niggerfaggots

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>>736803746
When you blast hard you have to return to form
The bottle dont have unlimited lightning

Chuds will return to fotm crimsir desert after this. Aye Carumba.

>>736819084
Unfortunately every team with the disenjector I've seen ALSO has an infinite budget for grenades, presumably from raping the fuck out of everyone else.

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>Chuds will return to fotm crimsir desert after this. Aye Carumba.

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>>736819579
>oh no the journo jews I follow on twitter lost I have to defend them for moloch

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>>736809674
>maratroons are so irreparably BTFO on so many fronts that they are reduced to actting like their cash grab GAAS sludge is actually high art and we're all just too low brow to appreciate the finer points of the game looking like a clown ate 50 packs of crayons and threw up all over an electronics warehouse

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>>736803746
Too much focus on PvP, also picrel.

>>736820243
And he sticks out so much that he might as well namefag on top of avatarfagging for attention.

>>736804140
woah

>>736816182
>-19
>>736817148
>-4
LLAMA.

>>736804905
Uni is so cute

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>>736803746
>I-It's stabilizing!

>>736803862
It really grinds my gears how Bungie just fills their games with autoaim and gets away with being known for “great gunplay”

bump for the coping chuds

I have an idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYWFBEuFj60

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>>736805205
Would you say you are having a.... Blast?

Bungie lost. Bigly

Keep in mind that last weekend, it peaked on Friday night.

This might be the end of 30k+ player counts.

>>736821279
this shit is straight up ghoulish for a saturday

>>736823792
Although, I guess there was a holiday last weekend.

On the second thought, it probably has one more weekend before it says goodbye to 30k.

>>736807040
>sales
He is talking about the people who bought the game and quit playing it, you monkey. Not about how much money it made.

>>736823895
nope, down 6k compared to last weekend. no more 30k weekends from here on out unless a major patch releases.

reminder that warframe won

>>736803746
Everything

>>736825153
>no more 30k weekends
will hit 30k in a few hours

>>736826429
Thanks to the chinese

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Everything is fine guys, it's going according to plan. Nothing to freak out about

>>736825153
A free to play for the server reboot should do it.

>>736825384
Hold up. What's the current hottest warframe shit compared to the hottest marathon ass?

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>>736811483
>Rook spawns with a green shield and a green backpack from the get-go
Completely superfluous, a white shield can kill any other runner in the game except maybe a purple shielder
>Rook gets gray implants, gray cores, 3 claymores, and a green gun with a silencer with only a few upgrades
All of which do fuck all except arguably the claymores
>Rook spawns ~halfway into a match, so there are less teams out there
Rook spawns halfway into a match, so there is fuck all for loot
>Rook can blend in with UESC, so free secured resources and guarded exfils
Yeah or you could just kill them like the wet tissue paper they are
>With later upgrades, Rook gets a blue backpack and a shotgun
Too much time and resources to invest to get to that point, and also barely helps at all

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>>736804178
>multibillion dollar acquisition of company who’s making multimillion dollar game
>hurr durr it was only meant to sell 5 copies retards, it’s actually a success
We’re reaching levels of cope no one previously thought possible.

>>736826429
29k cap but probably will peak at 28.5k.

>>736827009
What's wrong with redditors?

>>736817148
This is why everyone is so happy about these games failing.

Paul Tassi is one of the biggest shills for the Hollywood machine. He wants nothing more than for the big leagues to be totally dominated by Bungie, Bioware, and Ubisoft, for anyone outside of this network to be the little leagues, and for the big leagues to have the power to force their rules on the rest of the industry. We've forced things to a point where even Paul Tassi understands that he has to choose between protecting his ability to influence the world as a "journalist" and protecting the Hollywood machine's illusion of strength.

Every time one of these games fails, we're one step closer to a world where the black they/them BLM public crossdresser is unemployable at game companies and the industry is infinitely more concerned about whether the game is appealing to their customers than whether Karen might screech (she's going to screech regardless, because victimhood is the source of her money and influence).

>>736803746
game is built around frustrating the bottom tier of players, that bottom tier eventually rage quits and a new tier of players become bottom tier and get frustrated, and so on. not a sustainable model

>>736828073
In this case, sony bought them out, so it's not just the usual scum. It's CORPORATE PR scum.

sympathy bump for the chuds

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How about remaking Oni with the same combat system, but tight and well-designed maps?

>>736830658
Honestly, if you think about it, if they took everything about Marathon and turned it into Oni, I think the game would have had a lot more initial success. Like keep extraction shooter, make it about shooting and looting in office buildings, you're maneuvering around robosecurity, and all that and then after a certain time, cops bust in and arrest all players. I don't think it would have been a firm success, but it would have delayed the inevitable and given us more porn about it.

>>736810654
>nobody played the 360 on a ctr
i think you mean CRT but you wouldn't know cause you're a 3rd world zoomer who never played halo on a CRT
this poster is one of the many marathon shitters btw

>>736803746
return to form... TOP THE CHARTS

all it did was make me want to go back and play tarkov, which I did through spt and it's been a total blast.
Never even bought marathon though that beta was heinously anus, completely sucked any interest I had away.

>>736828885
Lol that's what happened to sonic racing crossworld. Meta trannies and item spam ruined and killed the game

>>736803746
They stopped production on their flagship IP to make a game in a niche genre, reviving an IP that nobody in the prime gaming demographic of 20-30 year olds ever played.

>>736831579
the funny part is they didn't even revive the franchise, there's basically nothing tying it to the original marathon because if they tried that they'd probably get cocks shoved so far up their asses by MS because halo is just marathon.

Also it's a bit disingenuous to say "they stopped production on their flagship IP" when destiny 2 has been flopping since covid started, before this game was even indev. They have never been able to make destiny a viable product. If it was ever possible to, it'd still be under activision.

>>736831671
They literally delayed a scheduled patch for Destiny 2 to focus on the release of Marathon, and the content they've put out since starting work on it has been mid at best or rode off crossover hype in the case of the Star Wars DLC they did. They've been neglecting the game hardcore. They haven't had a proper PvP team in years because they all went to work on Marathon.

There are some Marathon enemies in the extraction shooter, too. It has ties to the older games, just not very good ones because it's a totally different genre.

>>736804809
Lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/comments/1siwsyu/all_my_guys_quit/
kek

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Jason Jones not leaving the company over 20 years ago

>>736826429
it didnt, it somehow did even worse than yesterday

>>736830658
Modern Bungie can't make single player games anymore

>>736805339
This meta was identical to destiny's shotguns or handguns meta

Welp

>>736803746
the post-launch updates to the game are insane:
1) launched a new map that only Shroud can play
2) increased loot drops for the maps that Shroud plays
3) added a ranked mode that even Shroud doesn't play
4) made it harder to get into Pinwheel unless you're Shroud
5) nerfed the free weapons that the plebs use
they're really doubling down on the game only being for the top 1% of players. It's like they're speedrunning for a server shutdown

>>736835298
is shroud the gay nigger looking one

>>736835298
Shroud also quit like 2 weeks ago

>>736835752
the ecelebs are all playing offstream and loving it, actually

>>736831000
trips of truth, actually a great idea

marathon with a solid melee combo system would solve the boring basic Halo 1 combat and OP Max Tac style cops in a Thrasher-style epilogue on each map would be extremely kino

also exfils need to be cooler, its a small thing but it really sets up the loop. ARC Raiders did a good job with the elevators but it could be better. Just disappearing into data should only be one way to do it. There should be VTOLs, motorcycles that you ride through a tunnel off into the distance, reaching the edge of the map could count, etc. It just needs to feel more like getting out at the last second and less like a capture point.

>>736836056
unsurprising, i have a feeling the overall strategy here was to try to make a game specifically for streamers and hope the rest of the marketing did itself. but then they bungled the project several times over and ended up with a budget the size of a AAA marketing budget anyway.

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There it is. There's the peak for the day.

>>736805339
>saymyname faggot still posting dogshit clips which he thinks make the game look good

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>>736837101
what I enjoy is knowing that this thing is an utter and abject failure for bungo and snoy at any number that's under 100K daily
flopathon needed to be the next big thing -- like somewhere between arc raiders and counter-strike -- for it to even approach being commercially successful

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>dogshit game that got astroturfed like all fuck by paid shills dies because no one wants to play it
Shocking.

Man, just a couple of months ago all the discourse around this game was all Marathon vs. Arc Raiders. Now the discourse is about whether it's going to survive the next month or not.

>>736837584
>months ago all the discourse around this game was all Marathon vs. Arc Raiders.
not true

>>736837226
checked the clip, realize its the same guy whos been posting these since the server slam. fucking hell.

>>736837584
I'm also just kind of waiting for them to officially shutter destiny 2 within the year. There's no salvaging that game at this point

>>736837101
Just pull the plug already and cut the losses at this point.
Heck you could say you got hacked or something and everything got deleted. Nobody will question you. Just end it all.

>>736804474
You have to honestly be a retard to really buy into most extraction shooters. It's a genre built on exacerbating power imbalances and not, in any way, equal contests of skill. The only reason to play one is if you have nothing going on in your life and a few friends to run them with and you're also all good at games (kinda optional really beacuse the innate imbalance of gear and health does a lot of heavy lifting unless you're all drooling retards) so that instead of being raped over and over you can go around seal clubbing.

>>736809101
No? What? Those games lived on for years. Still do.

>>736809101
You're a fucking moron, New Vegas was trash on release and got a larger following later on after the DLCs released and bugfixing mods became standard, and then lasted for a good decade plus afterward.

>>736827231
>Rook spawns halfway into a match, so there is fuck all for loot
Never played the game award.

>>736837101
Being lower on a Saturday compared to Friday is pretty strange no?

>>736840961
It's happened before

>>736803746
It’s a $20M game, not a $200M game.

>>736837783
>Just pull the plug already
Why? Destiny 2 hasn't broken 20k since early February and it's still online. I get that the mere idea of people playing Marathon makes you seethe, but be reasonable.

>>736811986
skill issue

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>>736840925
The only loot to find is in the backpack of trios, good luck getting it retard

>>736841243
just raided Pinwheel command center and took Unsent Missives as Rook
>38 hours
That's cute

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>>736841309
What do you want, an award for playing a shitty game for more time than me?
Uhh, I guess you can have it. Here you go champ, that's short for champion.

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>>736841243
Factually incorrect. You can find plenty of stuff that runners didn't pick up. One time, I even found an opened treasure room full of great loot that the people who opened it didn't have the space for.

>>736841694
>playtime
nice

>>736813687
>I'm pretty sure he's talking about the treasures that auto-sell
All of those are 1x2
That retard is selling salvage lol

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>>736841243
>>736841694
Also,
>The only loot to find is in the backpack of trios
Runner backpack space is limited.

>>736817798
>>736817896
It's always surprising to see old guys on /v/, but I'm also 27 so I guess there's some teens on here that would think I'm old af too

>>736803746
1. No one trusts Bungie
1.1. Confirmed by the stolen art fiasco
2. Divisive art style
3. Grindy, time-consuming genre in a saturated market

>>736841125
I hate every retard that still plays Destiny 2. I don't blame Bungie anymore but these low IQ dad players who keep financially supporting a game that stopped respecting them a long time ago because they are so balls deep in sunken cost fallacy and Stockholm Syndrome that they are terrified of living a life without Destiny. This is more akin to a gambling addict or drug addict tan a person who enjoys gaming as a hobby

it's just a bad game shilled by woketards because they want to own the chuds by shilling anything normal people don't like

>>736810654
360 came out as the average consumer was moving toward HDTVs. Hence why the later elite model added HDMI support.

>>736842387
>chuds
>normal
Kek

>>736842437
normal people, aka anyone who knows men can't be women is considered a chud

>>736842468
No chuds find things to get mad about to pass the time

>>736842491
Meaningless definition of chud.

My 15 year old nephew called a classmate a chud and I asked "why is he a chud does he like Trump" and he said "no a chud is anyone that is weird and a loser" so that word is going through a revision

>>736842468
>if you play games that i don't like then you're a tranny!
classic chud behavior

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>>736842491
>p-please stop rubbing the massive woke failure on our faces

>>736841125
They are losing money. It's better they end this failure fast. I know it will hurt them but at least they will die with some dignity.

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>>736842610
you can't get away with this argument when the devs and most accounts shilling this slop proudly mark themselves with tranny and palestine flags

>>736842638
No. Imminent. Shutdown. You lost and you lost hard.

>Parasitism 5/5
>Trio fill is just getting me grey shields with the most basic of tasks they fail to do
>Fuck it solo
>Two runs where I couldn't find a sparkleaf
>Not allowed to take the 20 sparkleaves in my inventory in
>Third time get it
>UESC lock down
>Solo so barely survive it
>Assassin was waiting in the vents for me to finish
>Get downed but managed to pull myself back in the room filled with UESC with a slither of health
>Managed to self revive in a cubicle
>Had to kill two other runners on the way to the extraction point with a volt weapon because no fucking ammo
>Nona is happy

I think I might of uninstalled if I died at that stage. I'm really starting to feel the need for trios. I don't care if it kills the game, sponsored kits and grey shields shouldn't be matchmade with others.

>>736842638
What's woke about the game other than the colour pallet that you dislike? And I mean the actual game content itself, not a photo of the people who made the game with the implication that therefore there's invisible woke hiding in it waiting to jump out and get you.

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>I don't have any fun playing this and am always miserable but I am addicted to the game but I am deleting it
What do you call this mental illness?

>>736842601
Based nephew

>>736842720
I got matched with a person doing Parasitism 4/5 and Parasitism 5/5 yesterday. We managed to do both their quests. I was surprised to hear Orion.

>>736842764
>the people who made the game don't count
lol

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>>736842767
woketards are trying their hardest to shill this shit

>>736842709
>Roping in trannies with anti israel

Nice try Jared. Still playing Marathon.

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>>736841835
Those dweeby robot arms
Those colors

Concordian imagery

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>>736843085
Concord had some nice colors

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>>736843062
>Still playing Marathon
84% of marathon owners don't share your sentiment

>>736842767
>I'm of course a casual
I've noticed a masochistic tendency in this game's community to reflexively establish this hierarchy of "casuals" and "sweats" in an attempt to justify any amount of bullshit the game is willing to throw at them. "Masochistic" because most players will invariably self-identify as "casual" and thereby accept the status of second-class citizen. It's like they're larping as feudal peasants:
>yes, my lord, I'm just a lowly peasant, so such is my lot in life
Interestingly, you don't really get this behavior in actual, competitive, "hardcore" games. Everyone is on the road to "sweat" status but just at different stages in that journey.

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>>736843085
What else should robot arms look like?

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>>736842709
the only public tranny at the company is that hideous cunt, jessica irwin. 1 out of 850 for a seattle company is tame.

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>>736843553
It's good when casuals know their place

>>736841835
I just can't get over how ugly the game looks

>>736843762
Rook gang

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https://youtu.be/xNC4GJwL4wQ?si=67523daaj7aZpmWA

>>736842767
Thqt descries literally every competitive multplayer game. Have you ever seen a happy League or CoD player?

>>736803746
It's woke and pushes minorities and normalizes them

>>736817505
AHAHAHA AAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEE!

>>736842887
actual brainlet

>>736814934
fucking hate this retarded slop consumer mindset
>it's mid, but you can spread the word so it stays mid!
fuck off, spread the word that it's shit so it fails and any other shit project also fails, that way maybe those fucking cunt publishers will learn their lesson

>>736803746
What u talkin bout? Marathon won.

>>736805339
is this video supposed to be impressive?

>>736846332
yes, you're supposed to awe at the visual diarrhea and be amazed at gameplay you've seen in 50 other slop shooters

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>>736804140

I still can't believe bungle stole the shotgun from starfield. Of all the things to do...

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>>736846731
retarded secondary

>>736847298
You idiot.

>>736842764
>What's woke about the game other than the colour pallet that you dislike?
The characters

>>736847298
This is so ugly, holy shit. No wonder Bungie decided to completely abandon this art direction.

>>736803746
In the era of resurgent boomer shooters they chose to take a niche but beloved boomer shooter IP and turn it into an extraction shooter, a genre that doesn't appeal to many people to begin with. On top of that instead of using its original colorful but gritty design scheme, they just went with some post modern vomit scheme and the ugliest character models possible. A design language that only really appeals to the gayest faggot who lives deep in downtown LA and hasn't seen a nongaped asshole in years

>>736848903
>The original colorful but gritty design scheme in question >>736847298
New Marathon's style is a massive upgrade.

>>736803746
don't know
never played it and never will

I don't get it. A game like Apex Legends is 10x as woke as this game ever will be but that game doesn't live rent free in peoples heads like this one does.

>>736848657
>>736849096
Go. Back.

>>736849413
It's a combination of factors:
1) People don't like Bungie
2) The market for live service games is pretty saturated
3) People REALLY don't like Bungie
4) People are chasing that Concord/Highguard high
5) The art style is divisive, and character design is questionable, especially for Triage

>>736849632
Make me, nigger.

>8k drop from last Saturday
LMFAO

>>736850245
The wipe will save it!

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>>736851141
the wipe will be a mercy kill, imagine being the target audience 90 hour week golem and find out your progress is reset

>>736851627
>Pic
Why are people upset at Dads of Marathon? I never understood that. I've even seen anons write mocking songs about them in Marathon threads.

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>>736803746
>making a extraction shooter when arc, hunt and tarkov already exist
>player characters are for some reason literal tranny gay robots with huge monkey lips
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee anon, I wonder what went wrong here

>>736851141
No, a wipe + free week will save the game

>>736851681
lonely faggots bitter about their life look to spread their misery
that's literally it

>>736853370
>making a extraction shooter when arc, hunt and tarkov already exist
Arc Raiders didn't exist for most of Marathon's dev time. Hunt was (and still kind of is) niche, and I personally never wanted to play Tarkov because I don't care for milsims.
>player characters are for some reason literal tranny gay robots with huge monkey lips
Only true for Triage.

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>>736854509
>Only true for Triage.
yeah........ sure.......

>>736810526
except that they had dogshit game design around it, so it always gravitates toward spamming whatever kills people in 1 second instead of requiring sustained precision and nuance
that's actually anti-gunplay

>>736810526
tell me what makes the gunplay distinct from any other game