Tales bros, Death Stranding 2's guest star is gonna be playing the best game in our franchise Soon™...
Vtuber fans are worse than bronies ever fucking were.You have your own board, clutter it with your worthless threads instead of the video game board.
>>736815009But Tales of the Abyss and Death Stranding 2 are videogames, anon. This is a Tales thread.
>>736814920kill yourself /vt/ranny
>>736814920Vtumors are fucking gay but Tales of the Abyss deserves all the attention it can get.
>>736814920KANARAZU BOKURA WA DEAU DAROU
>>736814920>AbyssWho was the retard that tricked her into playing it instead of Vesperia.
>>736816028You can enjoy both because they're both very good games.
>>736814920>famous Japanese virtual advertisers need to emulate the game because Bamco is fucking retarded and still refuses to remaster itEbin.
>>736816418Abyss has been repeatedly shown on illustrations during their 30th anniversary along with the other games they've remastered, so it's planned. They're doing it in two teams.>Team 1: Tales of Graces f -> Tales of Berseria>Team 2: Tales of Xillia -> ???It's likely Xillia 2 is next for Team 2, and Team 1 is working on Abyss right now.
>>736816418>emulateIs that okay for them to do? I thought they needed permissions to do anything.
>>736816028Abyss > Vesperia > Eternia > Symphonia
>>736814920wrong boardyou want /vr/ or /vrpg/
>>736817715Abyss > Vesperia > Xillia 2 > Berseria > Graces > Xillia 1 > Arise > Zestiria > Symphonia
>>736814920>>736815585Sex with Natalia.
>>736818143
>>736814920Vesperia?
We will finally have Natalia's cleavage in HD some day.
>>736814920I HATE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE POPULAR, GET ATTENTION, AND HAVE MORE MONEY THAN MEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI HATE JAPAN AND JAPANESE CULTUREWHY CANT IT BE UGLY LIKE WESTERN CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>gacha slop>cinema slopVtuber simp faggots really have no standards, huh
>>736818552>this is what the royal princess decides to wear the day she's gonna go and kill her blood father
>>736818595Why is your skin brown?
>>736818823Princesses dress like this?
>Racism outside of /b/oof
>>736819105Racism is integral to Tales, really.
>>736819003The good ones do.
Abyss mogs Vesperia in plot, but in MCs? Both mog Symphonia.
>>736820116The best Tales MC is Ludger because he fails his job interview, is in crippling debt and the woman he confesses to rejects him; hes literally me.
>>736820408>Fails job interview WITH family connections.>25 million gald in debt.>Raising a foster child as a single father.>Cooks all his meals himself for a kid who doesn't even like tomatoes.>Girl he likes wants his brother instead.>Job is to destroy alternate realities and only leave the canon timeline (suck it fanfic authors)>Saves the world.>Meets with the spirits who cursed his entirely family lineage. They tell him he deserves it and to do it again in a few hundred years or humanity will go extinct.>Everyone is just ok with it.I love this game but what the FUCK man
>>736816418She'll play it on her PS3 and it'll look like absoule ass.
>>736815009>You have your own board, clutter it with your worthless threads instead of the video game board.Yeah, you tell those poketrannies!
>>736814920please god let someone decompile this game so I can play it on PC at more than 30 fps without having to use some frame gen shit
>>736814920Patra just played it recently so I'm good
>>736820653Ludger... had a hard life...
Abyss is good because it has an edgier clone of zelos!!!!!!!!!!!
>>736814920She’s not playing Zestiria though.
>>736814920I am prepared to make this deal with the devil for Abyss to get more attention and get a real remake
>>736822006>>736816028>>736817715>>736817868>>736814920Abyss has the most unique protagonist with the most character development. However, the rest of the cast are pretty uninteresting.
>>736822164>Abyss has the most unique protagonistLuke is a really good one but it came out roughly the same time as .hack//g.u. which had a similar main character who starts off an asshole and becomes better, and is voice by the same english VA.
>>736822164The least interesting one is Anise. Jade is one of the most interesting characters in the franchise, Guy has the whole 'Count of Gardios' shtick with Hod and Luke's dad being an absolute cunt during the war massacring his entire family + his connection to Van, Natalia complements the game's themes by being a fake princess akin to replicas being fake people + being one of the more fun archers in the series, and I've had a crush on Tear since I was 13.
>>736822757>least interestingShe's the Lorelei/Daath representative in the party (since Ion is nonplayable and dies later), and her parents are an example of the 'scoretards' that Van would most certainly dislike.Her connection with Replica Ion contrasts with Arietta's connection to OG IonAlso, personal taste but Haruko Momoi VA = instant like.Jade's influence is way higher since he's basically the reason why pretty much everything happens but it's hard to counter that.
>>736814920Combat is boring
>>736823009(cont.)and yeah, I'm aware there's Tear for the Lorelei representation too, but she's more from the Yulia City faction, contrasting the Mohs faction.Six characters: two from Baticul, two from Malkuth, two from Lorelei (Yulia/Daath). It's a good balance.
>>736816694Why in the world did they spend time remastering Berseria of all games
>>736823142To put it on the switch and to fill time between xillia 1 and 2 I suppose.
>>736823142Bamco retardation. It doesn't even the 'remaster' treatment (and is in reality just a fucking port with tweaks).They must've been sniffing the same shit Sony does, considering all the fucking Last of Us rereleases they did.
>>736822757>Jade is one of the most interesting characters in the franchiseMy nigga. Jade is an excellent character.
Swordians was the best gimmick of the Tales series and nobody will tell me otherwise.
>>736823009Least interesting comparatively, but I like Anisu well enough too.
>>736823509>whole point of RPGs is to get better gear as you level up>no reason to not ever use Swordians versus regular swords and axes, or bows for Woodrow.Yeah sure, you can have Mary or Johnny or whatever but who's gonna use them for longer than five minutes comparatively with Stahn, Rutee and the rest?>muh discsNot the same.
>>736822757>>736823242How is Jade interesting? He was a bore. And his design is garbage. He's like Yuri where people like the idea of what he is more than what he actually shows in the game. Because Jade was such a nothing of a character.
>>736814920>going through the effort of playing abyss instead of symphoniai can appreciate it
>>736823838How long has it been since you played Abyss?
>>736815009Only someone too young to have lived through peak brony would ever make a statement like this. Bronys were a biblical level plague that will never be matched again.
>>736823878Abyss is the better video game. I'd rather pull a PS2 out of the darkest corners of storage to replay Abyss than ever replay Symphonia when Symphonia's on 36 different devices.
>>736823992Show me Jade being interesting.
>>736823759Say what you want, it is hilarious to use back-to-back Indignations
>>736823838How is he not? Jade is the most interesting, realistic example of a sympathetic sociopath I've seen in a video game. Once upon a time he was two steps away from being the main villain of his own game and he knows it. He's someone that fucked up so hard when he was a kid that it has taken him his entire adult life to try and unlearn his sociopathy and set right the sins of fomicry that still pursue him, and it's ironically enough through Luke becoming his own person that he gets to see past his monstrous side and put the demons to rest.https://youtu.be/XN_CIUhN5oc?t=231
>>736819639see how mao-chan is in the front? even the devs knew he was the only thing that was good about rebirth. otherwise the whole game is a fucking snoozefest. but mao-chans tight little butthole and our hot and sweaty midnight sex was what kept me going. we are now married.
>>736820653never played xillia2 after i saw what slop xillia1 was. is the loli the heroine?
>>736820653Bisley was right. FUCK spirits. Glory to humanity.
>>736824402Elle is Elle.https://youtu.be/sPbQhNOD4TQ
>>736824301https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhduQhDqtb4
>>736824425>FUCK spirits
>>736824096why would I waste my time on you? You've already decided not to change your mind.
>>736823569>I'll kick youWhat are these shit subs? Good thing Abyssal Chronicles did their fansub and it was more in line with the game's TL...>I'll kill you bastards!and yeah, I like her too - beating up enemies with a gigantic plush doll is just way too fun. And Negative Gate up the ass.
>>736824402New character, NPC who's with the main character for 90% of your playtime but non playable.Until you get to the post-game dungeon and unlock model swapping that is.
>>736824619sounds like shit, not kidding. i miss tales games where you traveled with your love interest the whole game and watched them grow closer and closer. i want that kind of thing.
>>736816418They can't emulate. Another one was playing the Steam version of Chrono Trigger and it constantly crashed on stream because apparently that port is dogshit.
>>736824749yeah, you have to mod chrono trigger. amd even then, it is censored if you play in remastered mode.
What do you think happened to Legendianon?
>>736820653Xillia 2's bad ending is probably my favorite bad ending in all of video games just because of the bullshit Ludger needs to deal with. I think at that point of the story where you can make the choice, most of the party members deserved it. I think the only ones that didn't were Elize, Leia, and Alvin too I think.
>>736824748So, Xillia 1? The one you said was slop?I think you may just be a troll.>>736825048Same. Just the novelty of being able to fight and kill your entire party is really fun and the end scene was an emotional gut punch.
>>736824950He found a going-into-games machine.
>>736825097>dont end up togetherand forget that one fact, just because a game has something i like doesnt mean i will like said game when so much else is just garbage slop. can you even think with that little monkeybrain of yours?
>>736814920I`ve seen some other vtubers suddenly playing Abyss. It's going to get a remake, isn't it?
>>736825736>dont end up together>implying
>>736825736I don't really respect your tastes if that's all you care about.
>>736826059God I hope not. Tales actually has a good track record with sequels and remakes ie Destiny 2, Xillia 2, PS1 Phantasia, PS2 Destiny, Innocence/Hearts R... DotNW was more the exception to the rule, and experimental by nature due to its existence as a lower budget spin-off (which is why it wasn't called Symphonia 2). But the last of these came out 13 years ago, and the Tales dev team as well as the industry as a whole have changed so much since that I wouldn't trust Bamco with an Abyss remake as much as the idea of getting my favorite game with an Arise-tier graphics coat of paint gets to me. We both know there'd be cut corners everywhere: cut sidequests, cut Artes, cut skits, cut outfits, other outfits sold as DLC, no overworld, no minigames, no attention to detail, reused Arise assets, etc.In a perfect world, where they involved the OG devs and it was mechanically something like FFVIIR, I'd lose my fucking mind over it. But we can't fully trust Bamco to not screw up a remaster, how are we gonna trust them with a remake to what's one of the three most important entries in the entire franchise?
Notice how nobody likes the redhead MC in every Tales of Abyss thread
>>736826875Go to sleep, Asch.
How do people feel about Graces f these days?
>>736828238Good combat, cheesy story, fun cast, dualizing is annoying, and Hubert is the most fun to play.
>>736816418>EmulateShe'd be in jail if she did that, Japs are autistic as fuck about emulation
>>736821172kek
>>736815009>Vtuber fans are worse than bronies ever fucking were.How young must one be to actually believe such a patently untrue statement?
>>736823838fujos love the guy and it's a fujo series, so
>>736828238Like>>736828348but I think Berseria's combat is Graces but better.
I hate Abyssfags so much
>>736828702Fujos can keep thinking that.
>>736816028Subaru already played Abyss didn't she? Probably her then
>>736826576>We both know there'd be cut corners everywhere: cut sidequests, cut Artes, cut skits, cut outfits, other outfits sold as DLC, no overworld, no minigames, no attention to detail, reused Arise assets, etc.I mean you praised Hearts R earlier in this post and it's guilty of five of these things (cut sidequests, artes, skits, outfits as DLC, less detail). If Hearts R was still good (and I do think it was) despite that, then an Abyss remake could be good.
>>736830092Your seethe fuels me.
I hate how they changed Xillia's font for the Remaster. Wish there was a mod to restore the old one, like Symphonia has one for the GC font.
>>736826576>and it was mechanically something like FFVIIRThis nigger must be on the jenkem
>>736832208The biggest mechanical issue with Nomura's fanfic is that it changes the original's gameplay, but Tales is already action focused.
>>736816418She has a PS2
>>736814920Which tales game is best to start with?
>>736831547I'm pretty sure it's related to the Fontworks shitshow when the remaster was made.
>>736833251Abyss or Vesperia. Some people swear by Symphonia but I didn't like it.
>>736823992Thats still a retarded take>We blamed you because you didn't take responsability for something you had no control over and was actually our fault>yeah, we are not taking responsability for something we did and asking you to take for something you did not
>>736833251Arise. It's the most coded for newer generation of players. Playing any of the older games will get you bombarded by mechanics and technical limitations that you don't won't like. Tales fags only call old games good because of nostalgia.
>>736833569You were a retard in 2005 and you're a retard now.
>>736833569I'm sorry you have brain damage.
>>7368332512D: Eternia or Phantasia PSP with patch3D: Symphonia (first full 3D movement title, can be a bit janky compared to newer ones)
>>736833251I started with Destiny, never finished it but I liked it a lot. Then again I'm a hipster so you don't need to follow my choice.
>>736833251The issue with starting with Abyss is that there's nowhere to go but down from there.
I don't watch vtubers but I jerk off to suisei a lot
>>736833569>We blamed you At no point during the scene does the party do any blaming, because they have other more important things to worry about. The only one that starts throwing blame around is Luke.>because you didn't take responsabilityBecause his first thought after seeing a little kid drown in poison under the weight of his father's corpse was "I-I didn't do it it was Van, yeah Van! leave me alone I didn't do it reeeeee".>for something you had no control overyou control the buttons you press>and was actually our faultThankfully the game's developers all had a far higher IQ than you do so they explore the question of fault throughout the entire game. I know it's hard to get for people like you, but the game's narrative doesn't end immediately after Akzeriuth, and Luke's not the only character that evolves after the accident.
I actually don't understand why Bamco hasn't remastered Abyss yet. What logical reasoning could there be for them to remaster Graces and Xillia, which made some sense since they were previously locked to PS3, and then suddenly jump to Berseria? How are they not remastering one of the most well known, beloved entries into the series? Why does Symphonia have like 8 ports but Abyss hasn't been remastered once outside of that wack ass 3DS port?What's going on with them? Are they stupid? Are they being purposely nefarious and insidious because they think it's funny to be assholes?
Is Abyss really the best of the series?
>>736833251Berseria is the coolest
>>736833998It's easily top 5.
>>736833972Saving the best for last.
>>736833998Nobody agrees on what the best is, but almost everyone agrees it's up there.
>>736833998The best tales game is your first tales game. Everything else is shit. And a lot of fans started with Abyss.
>>736833998It's the best if you didn't play the game and just watched the story in youtube.
>>736833251Phantasia PS1.
>>736833972Each game is being remastered by completely different, outsourced companies. Symphonia Remastered was Bamco Studios Romania, Graces was TOSE CO., LTD., Xillia was DOKIDOKI GROOVEWORKS, Inc. and Berseria was D.A.G Inc. Supposedly a bunch of these projects were all ordered at the same time and the newer the game, the easier it is to port and the sooner it comes out. Plus for games older than Abyss they'd have to, you know, put actual work into it like localizing Eternia's skits or Legendia's second half or Rebirth's... everything.
>>736834245Weird way to spell Symphonia.
>>736834245That's right. Phantasia is the best
>>736833998The only Tales game to make it into the Famitsu Top 100 games of all times list in 2021.https://www.famitsu.com/news/202112/27246207.html
Which version of Phantasia is the best?
>>736835212all of them except GBAmy personal favorite is still GBA
Why not the official Ambassador?
>>736835212For co-op, PS1 with Phantasian patch (lets you have a Technical Ring from the get-go)If playing alone, the recently translated "X" PSP version.
>>736835212PS1 looks and plays the best.
>>736835212X Edition for PSP. Gets rid of spells pausing combat with the trade-off being enemies are a bit more aggressive.
>>736835212Either PS1 or the recently fan translated Cross Edition. The former has been the best English version for ages because the original Famicon version was more of a proof of concept than anything, and the GBA port was... not great. The Cross Edition is "technically" better (spells don't stop time during combat, GBA additions, new playable character) but 80% of its additions I find to be detrimental especially if it's your first playthrough (battle sprites change the artstyle, menus have a modern look that don't fit the old school JRPG vibe, the big GBA additions are bad, the new playable character is even worse and doesn't fit at all with the original game written 15 years earlier).Honestly unless you cannot deal with spells stopping combat for a couple secs when they're cast, go with the PS1 version.
>>736835356>Honestly unless you cannot deal with spells stopping combat for a couple secs when they're cast, go with the PS1 version.Another really good thing about Cross Edition is that you always have Manual as an option without needing to waste an accessory slot. I agree the new content isn't great. At least the story just has some extra dumb stuff instead of getting completely raped like Narikiri Dungeon X though
>>736817868>Abyss > Vesperia > Xillia 2Mein nigger.
>>736833575>the game that wasn't even going to be a tales game is a good start>the game where the combat mechanics are all at odds with each other on top of bosses throwing everything out the window to be giant damage sponges>the game where it constantly reminds you in the menus that you can purchase dlc
>>736835356>should we give Suzu, who was added with the PS1 version and is clearly undercooked, more to do?>no, let's leave her as is and add ANOTHER new character that feels even more disconnected with the rest of the party except we then go and make her a narrative Mary SueWhat were they thinking
>>736836106>Muh dlc ads in 2026>game with a one hit nuke mc to be as casual as possible for casual fags>enemies are giant damage sponges>didn't play the game
Destiny Remake is the best game tho? Silly EOP.
>>736836835You do realize Destiny DC has been translated for years right.
>>736836835Didn't live up to the hype. I dropped it after a few hours.
You can't play the original Hearts unless you know moonrunes.>play with a translation guide by the sideWay to ruin a first playthrough.
>>736837894Meant for >>736830439
>>736814920>Abyss>BestIt's not even top 5
>>736824090Symphonia is only really on 1 device, any subsequent release is 30 fps trash.
>>736837894>Way to ruin a first playthroughThat's nice, while you're still worrying about "ruining your first playthrough" others played and enjoyed the game 15 years ago instead of waiting like a cuck
>>736838023Name the top 5
>>736835356There's a code to disable the spell freeze on the PS1 version
>>736838346code?
>>736824749Is it the same one that played DKC on SNES on stream?
>>736838845Yes
>>736818823I'm feeling a little funny anon.
>>736822358I want more characters like that.
>>736841954Calm down Asch
>>736814920>mfw people will truly do anything but actually PLAY games these games
>>736842197you lost chud
>>736814920Pekora is a whore Cold chicken event
