>short intro level>menus menus menus>continue grinding missions without any further explanationMarathon, Halo and Destiny lived of their story and presentation.What the fuck was Bungie thinking here?
>>736815314also why the fuck is this called marathon at all?You are not even on the marathon?Like what is the point??
>>736815520>Like what is the point??generate profit for shareholders
>>736815601>let's make something shit and not insert any of the trademark characteristics of our previous works at allYeah making a profit that way is working out greatI'm sure the shareholders are thrilled.
I love the part where you can press 1 button to ready yourself for battle with a free kit, but have to keep selecting bullshit upon bullshit and waste time when you bring your own shit
>even the shill filled subleddit is turning on the "greatest MP map ever made" nowLMAO
>>736818096its the chuds fault
>>736815314>destinyGet fucked faggot, enjoy ur game
>>736815314Nice try but Destiny never had a real story.
>>736818096>>736818467Cryo is fucking insufferable now.The entire game is just annoying to play.
>>736818950what you dont like grtting camped by purps lmao
>>736818950>>736818096genuinely baffling how this outcome wasn't obvious to any of bungie's designers at any point during development
>>736815520The fourth map is aboard the Marathon, and I'm pretty sure of the original three Marathon games you're also only on that ship for like one and a half games cumulatively.
>>736817528What's funny is that in the server bash and the first couple days of release you didn't even need to press one button for the free kit, they equipped you with one automatically after you died. I have no clue why they changed it and I don't think they even mentioned that they did, one day you just stopped getting a kit after death and started having to manually grab it from the armory.
>>736818950Git Gud, Git Better Loot!
Destiny was infamous for poor presentation of its story. You see, when you get something as big as that wrong, it makes me think you don't know anything and have nothing to say. That can't be right, can it?
>>736815314>Destiny>story and presentationLMAOOOOOOOOO Destiny lived off taking raid guns into crucible. The reception to Marathon is EXACTLY how the initial reception to Destiny went.
>>736818950>>736821989>>736818096qrd? why do people hate cryo now?
>>736823042never forget
>>736823280people hate the game because the cryo experience has crystallised the fundamental flaw with the game: it's a claustrophobic funnel into PVP where the most geared 3stack cleans up the entire map every single time
>>736815314is this just proof bungie was never good and got lucky with halo?
>>736823280Because it's all grenade and bubble shield spam, and streamers go around killing everyone else in the lobby within 5 minutes so they can farm more goo guns. It's basically a case where if you didn't do it week 1 you never will.
>>736823342Yep this. Cryo basically represents the issues with the game.A very visually unique looking map only the top percentile of players can access filled with a ton of unnecessary busywork for the sake of forced shoor on sight PvP all for the sake of fighting a dogshit bulletsponge boss.
>>736818940>>736818705it doesnt matter if destiny had a bad story or no story or whateverthe point i am trying to make is: You can go to youtube now, enter "Destiny Movie" and get a 5 hour video of cinematics, dialogues and sequences explaining the (shit?) story.Think of the story whatever you like, but putting the story presentation front and center is the Bungie DNAfuck, even Myth has better story presentation than the new marathon>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjN6kEo8-Ss
>>736823919bungie really thinks they are known for their pvp and not their pve. fucking delusional company
>>736823919I mean, just look at how fucking cool this ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVBHqA91kggAnd what about marathon?Well marathon gives you like 3 minutes of what looks like a bunch of stylized stock footage.Fuck that.
>>736815314Destiny TTKSpecify that next time, because early destiny was all grimoire card outside of the game and this terrible scene >>736823329still better than the shit they did to d2>>736823987there's retard out there that will reply to you saying "muh halo pvp"
>>736823352Contrary to popular belief, Bungie is pretty good at the core. Back then and still now, the primary issue with Bungie is that they have always been a company headed by ideas guys who keep expanding their ideas rather than finesse them and it's been like this since the start of the Halo days. CE was rebooted a few times before they got it right and MS kept giving them pointers, Halo 2 was a huge dumpster fire behind the scenes and the final product was done within a year out of the 3+ they spent making it. Halo 3 was overmanged by MS because of how Halo 2 turned out, and it clearly benefitted from treating the devs with constant checkpoints and expectations. Destiny was gutted under Activision but Bungie still wrangled it back a solid foundation even if it wasn't all that was hoped for. The issue began with Bungie going independent, and even though they're owned by Sony, their new parent company is very hands-off so you don't get those constant check-ins like with MS.
>>736823637and it's even worse than that because i didn't articulate myself properly the first timethe ENTIRE GAME is a PVP funnel, not just cryothe maps are small enough that any PVE activity acts as an attractor for PVP because gunshots equal players existing at that approximate location and (unlike in Tarkov for example) the extraction points are almost all IN the map rather than around the edges and generate visual and audio FX to alert everyone that an extraction is about to happenit's an astonishingly naive conception of an extraction shooterthey could have done Destiny 2 Patrols But PVPVE and it could have not just avoided or ameliorated all of these issues but ALSO been a genuine evolution of the genre, simply by leveraging technology THEY ALREADY MADE A DECADE AGO, but they just.... didn't
>>736824681its interesting that this somehow lowers the tension that makes games like tarkov interesting. i don't know how they managed it but theres no tension at all.
>>736824681I'm not a pvp god or grinder, but my arachne rep is 24 currently and I have never taken a single contract from them. I personally enjoy that Marathon is more PVP funneled than other extraction shooters, HOWEVERTHOUGH, this makes the pain points like PvE posing no threat at all once you start running blue shields. They bumped up the amount of UESC in Pinwheel and it's still a huge nothingburger because people get inside Pinwheel within the first two minutes of a match now and have two whole rows of heavy ammo.
>>736824681You wanna know something funny?For Lightfull, Bungie purposely made the entire map have "dangerous" enemies always more powerful than you. They wanted wanted the map to be extremely hard.Everyone hated it and it became the least played map.Shooting low level adds even with power weapons was a pain in the ass. People only did what was necessary to get certain weapons and then left. So the fact that Bungie decided to make a hardcore game knowing they couldn't even design a good one in PVE is fucking hilarious.
>>736825353Destiny players are MMO players meaning that 90% do not want to play the game and the other 10% grind a lot and see everything the game has to offer immediately and then burn themselves out right after.
>>736825564Irrelevant. They Bungie cannot design a good hardcore persistent PVE zone nor a good PVP system and that's why Marathon is ass. A lot of people played the legendary campaigns, even casuals.
>>736823280>all the casuals are gone>average solo fill matchmake gamers grouped with randoms can't compete with no lifer discord teams in cryo>average to slightly above average player can't exfil in end game and lose out on end game rewards>coordinated teams are the only ones who can reliably exfil with purple and gold weapons and armor>gear gap keeps getting bigger between the two>now even the enthusiast gamer, who actually posts on forums are dropping the gameThe population is literally eating itself. I didn't even include the cheaters and teamers who all hang out in cryo. End game has been taken over by the top 5% which is bad because cryo is literally 25% of the entire game.
>>736826023The discord teams in cryo are the equivalent of hardcore raidtrannies in WoW/FFXIV/etc and do cancerous "tryouts", build requirements, and a whole bunch of gatekeepy shit.
>>736824882The issue is that Marathon essentially just turns into a badly designed BR game at that point.Hiring the Valorant cuckwas a mistake.
>>736825353>>736825934i think their patrol events system demonstrates that they can design design decent pseudopersistent PVE, it's more that they can't identify where/when/why to implement it in some particular way, probably as a result of our boy Pete Parsons whittling the game and the devs down to a finely-honed whalemoney extractor over the past ten years>>736826167yep also thissince Chris Barrett was only fired two years ago i doubt the game in its current form is wildly different from what could have been, but having fully custom runners instead of the meme-ass class system would have at least been *better*, especially if the maps were just larger even with no real difference in the number of players or NPCs in a given instance
>>736826626If the game took six years to make firing the head guy 4 years in and then having 2 new guys the next 2 years is an absolute failure of dev
but the lore is good (you can watch the clips on youtube)
>>736826842he got fired because he was sexting like a dozen of his subordinates without consent so all we can say for sure is that Joseph Zeigler was not the right choice for a replacement director
lol
>>736827091Zieglers not even the replacement director hes the replacement of the replacement director
>>736828012lmao bungie is fucked
>>7368281124 years of dev time this game was supposed to be a phased instance with players dropping in and out at will.Then barrett got fired and some retard was put in his place and he wanted the game to be a hero shooter like apex. So they removed all the customization and made heroes that basically just copied apex and siege kits.Then that faggot got fired or left and ziegler was signed on to make the amazing decision to turn it into an extraction shooter so they could blame the low player counts and lack of sales on "well it just has a niche audience"
>>736815314This is a legit criticism. I started the server slam when I was high as fuck and got confused. They need to make sure players, especially console players, are immediately in the main action ASAP. That being said, if the word of mouth was better players would probably power through anyways. MOBAs infamously have terrible onboarding and that never mattered.>>736823280People are going to tell you a lot of bullshit but it's basically just a function of the shrinking player population. Mechanics that work with a healthy player pool and skill mix start to break down when the worst 10% keep evaporating off until you're left with an extreme concentration of high skill players that fucks the balance. They should just bite the bullet and add bot runners to give low skillers the easy win. Pretty sure Marvel Rivals did something like this.
>>736823280There are so little people playing this that you now have squads teaming in cryo. Its really just a problem with the game. The game is a game of rape. You either rape the person in front of you or get raped by them. After a month most normal people realized this isnt fun at all and dropped this piece of shit. Every time you kill someone in this game you are ruining their time if they had any gear or were doing a mission. Its not like a br where u just requeue and roll it off your shoulders you are losing your time and effort to get wstrd around a corner
>>736824815tension comes from things being unexpected, in tarkov or ark raiders you have no idea how things will gohere you always know exactly whatll happen, its just a br with persistent gear
>>736815314Games are made for troons or for streamslop, marathon is streamslop
>>736826023its a classic death spiral
Holy Fuck!!!I'm having such a BLAST!!!!You folks are definitely MISSING OUT!!
>>736824681The game turned into this because the normie retard discord trannies cried about how empty the maps were and so bungie made every bullet audible from across the map. This turned the game into a shitty version of apex because people realized lol there are only 18 PLAYERS ON THE MAP. So all one trio of purples has to do is waste 15 other retards and because of the shitty spawns and nature of the game thats more like 7-9 players. Its a genuinely retarded game
>>736828469>a californian company outdoes tarkov in the sole criterion of making the most russian game of all timepottery
>>736827513this is so fucking ugly
>>736828631>californian Worse. Seattle
>>736815314Are we talking about Marathon 1994 or the current failure?
>>736828628lmao true, they did ask for thisnot like people wouldn't have noticed the maps are mocroscopic and all the soawns are right next to each other though, the game is a failure on every level.like if spawns were staggered, or random, or the map was uhm a lot bigger it would be one thing, but the maps so small that in less than a minute you have everyone spawn killing the casual retards that dont know that the party van is on its way.
>>736828848Perimeter is legitimately a beginner tutorial map that was forced into main rotation because they have nothing else lmao
There's nothing wrong, chuds. This is where the game is supposed to be
>>736828628Its even worse, because if you wipe 2 teams and another group exfils you're basically alone.
If these maps were like 4 times bigger amd had 60 players and it was a br it probably would have succeeded lol
>>736828916lmfao chuds cant stop losing when will they learn everything is just as planned, sony bought bungie for 3.6 billion and spent 250 million on this to stick it to the chuds!take that chuds!
>>736829013I don't even really like BRs and i'd have still preferred that over extraction shit desu
Okay no but seriously what the fuck was Sony thinking with this shit? With its budget amd lower price Marathon needs to sell over 9m copies to break even
>>736829013found the chud, why do you want the game to be what its not chud, cant you just let them cook? its a new game, extraction games are niche, seen the reviews? people are having a blast, never post in this sub again
>>736828916Tarkov has its own launcher
>>736828916It's very telling that none of the top comments are even trying to agree. They all know the game is done for at this point.
Everyone else has got it wrongMarathon had Development *BUDGET* (Keyword here) of over 200 million but it DOESN'T mean they used it all for this game.
>>736829158thinking?they were victims of jim ryan and the era where the ledditors got all wrong think banned so they somehow convinced themselves that sweet baby and whatever pride was the way to go, like everyone else.little did they know that the retards banning everyone else for wrongthinks reign would be so shortlived, and not only that, that they not just not buy anything, but their involvement with ANYTHING will make everyone else instantly bail.so you get all these redditcore prijects made to appeal to the 20 retards in gaming circlejerk and bluesky that dont buy anything, and invariably all of this shit flops. As it should.Nothing brings ke pride and joy like seeing all of those retards burn and glorious asia that gives no fucks about bluesky and cant even read it, taking over with hot voluptuous babes, and bloody, fun stuff that has absolutely 0 pride shit.
>>736829307You do realize all these outlets are using the info that came from Paul Tassi right. And he now said the budget is likely over $260m
>>736822343You're only on the Marathon for the first game, and really only 3/4th of that game if you want to be specific about it. >>736823280Cryo sucks because I get spawn rushed by gigachads within 2 minutes of spawning. Even when this doesn't happen it will funnel all teams to Control until only 1 team is left alive and even then you might just get unlucky with lack of security clearance. Outpost is such a better designed endgame map it kinda blows my mind that Cryo exists at all. It should've just been a PvE boss fight map.
>>736827513WHAT ARE THOSE!
>>736829379its way more when you take opportunity cost into account, they could have set that money on fire and theyd be better off.the earnings report will be glorious.
>>736829368Sony is retarded but if you think shareholders are browsing reddit you might be even more retarded.
>>736815314>What the fuck was Bungie thinking here?They wanted to see how much Sony money they could waste and how little effort they could put into something.
>>736829460I can promise you the only people retarded enough to actually hold Sony's bags right now are definitely on reddit
>>736829158These faggots paid for Concord, they don't think or learn from their mistakes.
>>736828898Which is a shame because it's like the best designed map.Compounds that all feel totally different and favor different play styles, multiple distinct paths between compounds that complement different weapon types, it fucking blows that by like level 20 you're getting better loot from the fucking sponsor quests than you'll find on 90% of the map.
They also stole the art design and had to pay some bitch a settlement lol
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>736829668some dude anon, that bitch is a dude
>>736829713Even better lmao
>>736829668stole some troons shit troon art and had to pay the troon for its shit troon art
>>736829676>Fairgame$ - Concord - Marathon>All in the same fucking rowLOL, they fucking knew.
>>736829676still no clue why until dawn is there.
>>736829585It's nuts that outside of quests and gathering faction mats only Outpost and Cryo are worth playing. Perimeter has literally nothing going on and even profit opportunities and boss kills there drop worse loot than just doing random shit on Outpost. And Dire Marsh is also useless outside of the lockdown event and farming the anomaly for gold salvage once you're super high level.
>>736815314Destiny is pretty horrible these days too
Anthem sold more copies
>>736815314>short intro level>menus menus menus>continue grinding missions without any further explanationoh yeah, its gaming time
Reminder Bungie got bent over hard after Destiny content they released (sold over 5x what Marathon did btw) underperformed
>exfils have global noise + light beam + 60 second timer>key rooms have a loud jingle that are near global>bosses notify players when fought>supply drops have global noise + light beam>Outpost notifies players when Pinwheel is breached, unlocks Pinwheel for all players afterwards>Anomaly notifies players when picked upAnything I'm missing? The game punishes you for doing anything except battle royale.
>>736830085Talk like this is bullshit they could have stopped doing business with the Asian qa team with 100 people on it and said they laid them off
>>736830085That was because they had to hit budget goals post-acquisition for their C suite to get golden parachutes
>>736829368>le DEI boogeymanmaybe it's as simple as pete parsons x jim ryan killing their own brands and studios to chase live service whales
>>736823329and they literally never explained it because she never appears again
>>736830132Loud ass siren when you start a secured treasure or even just the little wall vaults[distorted recording] or whatever for everyone in like 100m when you're doing a bunch of the quests
>>736828761Marathon 1994 wasn't a failure, so clearly we're talking about the new one.
>>736823329looks like marvel superhoe slop
>>736830307As an actual Marathon fan the silver lining in all of this has been people have found out about the OG games. Discussion about the originals were dead before the reboot.
>>736830397unfortunately marathons name will be forever tarnished by this trash now
>>736830261She's in D2
>>736815314>Destiny lived of their story and presentation
>>736830397I would rather have just kept normies learning about Marathon from Mandalore instead of this neon silicone extractionshit
>>736829954First game sold really well for some reason but then everything else including Quarry and remake was dogshit flop or got cancelled lol.
>>736830397Honestly the few lore pieces you get in Nu Marathon are pretty good. And seeing the Marathon ship realized in 3D in Cryo Archive is really fucking cool. It's just fucking useless because you never get time to take it in because you're constantly being hunted by death squads. Outpost has a whole ass museum with interactive exhibits too that you never get to interact with because the noise is basically a death sentence.
>>736830917NuMarathon is a bit of a letdown. It would've been cool to see the ship be much older and industrial but it's still the same blocky art style as the rest of the stuff on Tau Ceti. It doesn't really look like the OG ship at all.
>>736831051that would require them to change their chosen disgusting art style for the integrity of the source material.
>>736831051Pls understand they really needed to steal from a tranny
>>736830917>Honestly the few lore pieces you get in Nu Marathon are pretty goodBen Starr is a fuckawful voice actor for Durandal and you know it.
I like nuMarathon artstyle because it reminds me of the OG System Shock 1, but in HDToo bad about being a live service game, maybe they can bolt on a reasonable single player campaign to this, even if small
>>736831139>>736831237I like the art style but the ship should've looked different from the other areas. Instead it's just the same assets.
>>736815314Who cares? The main problem is how it manages to look both ridiculously ugly and bland at the same time. The game looks like it was designed by a committee comprised of the world's most boring people, but then someone vomited off-color neon shit all over it.
>>736831283It hasn't made any money, even after a month. Sony is more likely to shut Bungie down than to give them money to expand on it.
>>736830535that skin is awesome however
>tfw you didn't buyed maratroon
>>736832963>buyedAnon, you can download Marathon for free
>>736832448>People shill marathon's unique and 'amazing' art style as one of its strongest selling points.>The same people immediately are begging to pay money to change all the models and character skinspathetic
Marathon reminds of all that Evangelion UI when the angels would show up
>>736833331lel Is it F2P already?
>>736815314>Argghhh cutscenes? dialog? lore? just let me fuckn play bro>where is the story? all I do is play it never gives me cutscenes or dialog to tell me whats going on!they did the only thing that could appeal to both and put all the lore behind achievements and unlocks and shit.
>>736823280People figured out how to rush security clearance so instead of PVP'ing in the "designated" PvP zones you can rush other people's spawns.Cryo is supposed to give each team a "free" room where they can kill a few bots and gear up. To go between rooms you need to upgrade your security clearance via security codes on bots and terminals.People have now figured out how to quickly rush security clearance 2 or 3 so they can rush into other teams "free" room and kill them basically within 5 minutes of the match starting.
about to go in with my first purple key. wish me luck, friends
>>736833819What do you unlock with that? A gender neutral bathroom?
>>736833819no golds, disappointing
>>736828626aesthetically this looks really coolmaybe they should do a hail mary and add wallhacks that look like this into the game for everyone and see if it makes it more interesting
This is the first time I've seen a game that on a surface level srems fun and is liked by both players and journos bomb this hard.And the weird part is even the people who went to bat for it and defended it are not playing anymore.
>>736828626Based cheaters fucking over cucks who install kernel level anti cheat
>>736832448buying a game with microtransactions is a gigantic humiliation ritual
>>736835007>kernel level anti cheatkernel level cheats
>>736833635>Is it F2P already?Yesalephone.lhowon.org
>>736815314Destiny broke Bungie people knew. Remember, that was supposed to be the new story-focused Halo until late in development Activision wanted a looter shooter. Unlike Destiny 2 there was a lot of shit still left over.
They can still turn this game around very easily, but first they have to admit that they messed up their vision for the game.Remove the classes and skills and allow players to create their own characters.This will allow them to actually sell skins and make some money. Expand the maps in size.Increase the TTK.Rebalance oneshot weapons and make heat holosights very rare.PvE enemies are EXTREMELY boring and repetitive to fight, either make more interesting ones or remove them because atm they're just annoyances.Create better systems and incentives for teamplay, rather than loot carrots where people who got the carrot first stomp on people who will never ever get to taste the carrot.Of course they will not do any of this, they will continue with their shitty boring BR-lite gameplay instead of making the game more interesting to play.
>>736835950Btw with some 800 devs (which is considerable for a game studio since making games has only gotten easier) this should be easily achievable. I'm one of the few people left who wants Bungie to succeed but they need to change course with this game.Just admit you fucked up and do a re-launch of Marathon ala Overwatch 2, instead of sniffing your own farts and going down with the ship.
>>736815314>What the fuck was Bungie thinking here?"we want the arc raiders audience" combined with a misunderstanding that extraction sweat shit is a niche genre
>>736834991Game gets extremely boring 40-50 hours in when you realize it's all pointless and the fights have zero strategy or suspense to them.
>>736827513>negative ass>"b-but shells don't have a need for sexual features" coperetarded, they are biosynths and have muscle-like system, they need an ass for stability reasons
>>736834535Good codex entries goooood son we figuring out mysteries
>>736835950Poor advice the post
>Lock high tier rewards/loot behind separate more demanding and difficult queues.>Think this'll be a great idea! It'll keep the sweats from the casuals.>Literally only does this in a negative way.>Sweats sometimes fuck off but what you've actually created is tiers of loot completely unobtainable to most of the playerbase.>Which sweaty 3 man super gear teams will bring back to normal queue and shit on noobs even harder.
>>736834991nobody ever liked this shit they liked the idea of owning the chuds and of being ground level on something new and cool and well, its dead so there's no ground level, and the chuds laugh and laugh endlessly at the retards that paid 40 for this garbage
>>736834991The real reason is because the game and genre is extremely upsetting. What’s going to take hold, objectivity? Or someone losing two hours of progress on a run?
>>736837339This game really thoroughly demonstrated that the last thing PvP sweats want is a fair fight, and it's beautiful
>>736815314>This thread needs a hero
two golds from a blue key, okay
>>736838982what roblox game is this from?
>>736836104>remove them because atm they're just annoyances.This would be the worst possible change they could do. PvE should be double downed on not removed.
>>736815314>NOOOOOOOOOO WHERE'S THE THREE BILLION CUTSCENES. WHY DOES THIS GAME THROW GAMEPLAY AT ME
>>736831051>It would've been cool to see the ship be much older and industrialyou didn't play the game
>>736831051>older and industrialmarathon is set in 2893, why would it look industrial?
>>736828376>Mechanics that work with a healthy player pool and skill mix start to break down when the worst 10% keep evaporating offSpeaking of, I heard that players have to wait ass long times outside of peak hours. Modern day matchmaking rules are so convoluted the system breaks down with a low 5 digit player count. We'd rather have our players wait 30 minutes for a match than just shove them in a less-than-perfect match.
>>736823919>Casualty>Casualty>Casualty
>>736823919You are gay and retarded
>>736833754>People have now figured out how to quickly rush security clearance 2 or 3 so they can rush into other teams "free" room and kill them basically within 5 minutes of the match starting.that's not how it works. you don't rush clearance 2, you rush level 1 by hacking 2 terminals, skipping as many enemies as you can, and use the vents or doors at Control ground floor to quickly rotate into other enemies. This is a legitimate tactic clearly designed for strategic teams to take advantage of, else there wouldn't be alternative ways to rotate>>736829964Overflow bosses and dropships for profit opportunity drop gold loot, so wrong
>>736815520
>>736844442Holy fuck
>>736844442nice one
I have to say that Marathon (2026) is such a bastardization of the original trilogy. It honestly disgusts me that someone thought that Artstyle was high brow when in actuality its very fucking unpleasent to look at.atleast with destiny they had a distinct style for different factions and reoccurring areas.
>>736823637>map only the top percentile of players can accessReaching season level 25 and being able to assemble a loadout worth 5000 credits isn't "top percentile".
>>736826023>>all the casuals are goneI'm a casual, and I clearly player against other casuals yesterday.
>>736823329Hot robot.
>>736830917>Outpost has a whole ass museum with interactive exhibits too that you never get to interact with because the noise is basically a death sentence.Just go there as Rook. Most people are either dead or in Pinwheel by the time you spawn in, any way.
>>736844695I like it. It's not like the originals had much on an art style to brag about, anyway.
>>736830474>>736830639The best thing Bungie could have done for classic Marathon is just sweep its art style under the rug and do something else. Which is what they did, thankfully.
>>736815601they're at like what, -$100M plus -3.6B for the acquisition cost? great going haha. should've hired even more sodomites
>>736844442is the game always this foggy?
>>736846989No, that's a marsh map, with rain happening during that clip. It's actually good that that map has fog due to snipers.
>>736846654They could have done a Doom 2016 reboot and it would have sold gangbusters though, especially since PlayStation doesn't have any good shooters
>>736849849True, and I still hope they get to do that. But Sony wanted a live service game.
>>736849849Yeah Dark Ages sold so well>>736849903No, Marathon was made by Bungie
At this rate we'll be below 20k in less than 2 weeks
>>736850167>No, Marathon was made by BungieCan't tell if you are trolling or just retarded.
>>736849903>one more live serviceWhy would one more drop of piss in an ocean of piss generate a profit?
>>736850504I don't know. Apparently, Sony had a plan to release a bunch of live service games in the span of few years, 2 of which were Concord and Marathon.
>>736850416But I can tell you are fucking retarded.Marathon was conceptualized, pitched and designed internally at Bungie before the Sony acquisitoon.It's also a fantatsic game and a great way to continue the franchise
>>736846989Yes
>>736850672>Marathon was conceptualized, pitched and designed internally at Bungie before the Sony acquisitoon.And Sony bought Bungie for their live service experience. Surely you noticed you 6 second long unskippable Sony logo on the game start up. The one that appears before the 2 second long Bungie logo.>It's also a fantatsic game and a great way to continue the franchiseI also like it, but it needs more work and players to be "fantastic".
