Where did it all go so wrong?
>>736819760Who nose?
>>736819760cope poorfag
>>736819760Unreal engine lowered the bar too far
>>736819760Limitation breeds creativity.
>>736819760Limitations breed creativity. You couldn't get into gamedev back then unless you were above a certain level of programming/engineering intelligence, and devs had to be really crafty work around the limitations of the hardware.Now, that bar has been lowered through the floor and any retard with no experience can make a game. Optimization is a lost art and pajeet devs would rather just throw more RAM and stronger GPUs at it instead of programming the game properly.
Instead of actually teaching people how to use computers proper we created a bunch of middleware garbage used by retarded apes who don't know a thing about optimization and they kept building on the mountain of shit with more shit and now basically its like a tower of poo
>>736819872>>736819889get a room you two
anyone worth a damn likely moved on from videogames into shit like software development, cybersecurity, etc.
game devs can no longer program or understand computers.
>>736819760You confusing RAM with VRAM.RAM size hasn't caused a bottleneck in ages for PC gaming.
Engineers actually figuring out how to vidoegames from zero, maming their own engines and codesvs"videogame" design degree that only know how to use Unreal slop 3, and most importantly, NOT ENGINEERS
>>736819760>Developers in 2007 with 512mb of vram
>>736820372Making your own engine is outdated and just means your game will take even longer to release and then have a billion unique issues that prevent people from playing from weird compatability errors.
>>736819760I have a low end PC (1 thread CPU) to test my game on.
was he right?
>>736821431Games don't have to have the best or most realistic graphics ever but I think they should at the very least perform better.
>>736821431
>>736821857GRIM
>>736821857>Survey
>>736820434Had this ATI babe on my graphics card box
>>736821857[X]post the numbers/study.You can fake data easy as shit to make it fit your desired conclusion.
>>736821857>>736821881Minecraft is the best selling videogame of all time. So graphics do not matter. Fortnite also doesn't look amazing but is still wildly popular.
>>736821857Who did they ask exactly?Actual gamers or randos on the street or a random hip place young people gather at.Because some of the best selling games dont exactly have the most top of the line graphics.
>>736819760Who do modern jewish producers hire in this day and age?>niggers>trannies>womenNone of them care about art or games and are literal retards trying to comprehend tools geniuses made to promote an agenda, usually to harm children and sexually indoctrinate them with pronoun shit and lies about trans shit, gaslighting them into believing chemical lobotomization and castration will transform them into women. Demented evil.So these sick, unhinged, whacko child predator subhumans produce content with this tech they’re too stupid to use and unmotivated to make good in the first place.
>>7368197601990 = engineers2026 = artistsengineers > artists
>>736822078they are both good looking visually. I cant use words to form my thoughts properly but you know what I mean. Minecraft is simple but perfect
>>736822040Nvidia also had girls too like the Mermaid and Medusa and Pixie.
>>736822247they are both stylized in a way that the engine can render their graphics and have good performance
The internet and the ability to patch games after release is the big one. The other major reason, albeit to a lesser degree; is that constraints drive creativity and innovation.
>>736821431He's right in that Pokemon sells plenty despite looking like shit. Most games don't have that Pokemon X factor, though, and would like to have good graphics as a sort of last resort.
can you imagine modern games, with downgraded graphics to run on a ps2 tier machine?>we severely downscaled the polycount and used baked lighting instead of raytracing, but the core gameplay is still intact>the game runs at 60 fpsn and with modern hardware improvements loading times are fasterwould you play elden ring or gta6 with ps2 graphics?
>>736822713imagine playing games in 480i in 2026.no progressive scan mode, only interlaced.
>>736821994What is wrong with the most common way to accrue data
>>736819760>left Whites and Japs>right JeetsAny more questions?
>>736822713I’ll take a hit in graphics any day. Look at Left4Dead for a random example. That looks pretty good and pretty real, games didn’t ever need to have better graphics than that. Graphics should have plateaued there so the games could improve instead of only the graphics “improving” (looking shittier and shitter but with higher rez!!!!)
>>736821857>"gamers" definition: anyone who spends at least 30 minutes playing candy crush on a phone
>>736819760Devs are just retarded, and it's not just games eitherDiscord coulld run on 10MiB of memory if the devs weren't moronsIn software development there's a culture of ignorance around performance. It's taught that caring about performance is a bad thing and that performant code is something you should avoid because it will be 'unmaintainable.'Truth is modern computers are so fast you don't need to write optimized code 99% of the time. In order for a game to run well you just need to NOT do slow things. Which devs are incapable of, because they don't know anything about performance.
>>736822713somehow they managed to make xbox 360 and ps3 work and they had 256mb and 512mb of ram respectively. this is 97% less ram than whats in ps5.
>>736819760skill floor is lower than everbusiness types and hollyjew types have taken over the industrybankers, investors, and shareholders demand a 1000% rate of profit, ensuring only unfinished, borderline unplayable bloated garbage gets produceddiversity hires, pajeet included
Windows and Mac need 20 of those RAM gbs just to run the computer
>>736822961Discord for whatever reason are morons that feel like tacking all kinds of extra nonsense features onto it too.
>>736822435define good graphics>inb4 6 gorillion polys on the screen, photorealistic brownshit, man-faced auntie with over 9000 wrinkles, visual memetracing vomiton second thought, don't
>>736819760india
>>736819872>>736819889*breeds you*
I like how indians and trannies don’t ever show up to defend themselves. Not even the might of a troon’s metal gymnastics is enough to even attempt to justify what unoptimized slop garbage modern leftoid jew NuGaming is.
>>736822961optimizations have always been good. there hasn't been any greybeard programmer against optimization ever>inb4 premature optimization is EVIIIIILpremature MICROoptimizations are bad, because you spend a fuckton of time getting bogged down in details fixing minute problems with optimizations you'll undo at least 10 times as you design the program
>>736821431I think the issue is more that not every genre needs to chase high end graphics, yet they do. JRPGs for example could exist today looking like a PS1/2 game and people would love them.
This all fit on a 8gb dvd. Today zoomers need 100+gb for the same experience.
>>736819760economy being in the toilet for the past 20 years and realizing that consumers are retarded goycattle that will settle for literal sewage like fortnite and fallout 76 which costs nothing to make and makes one trillion dollars off microtransactions.
Poorfag cope thread
>>736822713yes but even if someone made a game like that it's still possible to somehow tank performancepic related, this is a game with low poly graphics, the top pic is running with max settings, the bottom pic is 1 step below max for all settings (my fps was capped at 141, so the framerate is technically higher than 141 at the bottom)I have no idea what max settings changes to cut the performance in half
>devs in 2026 ( powered by NVISAJEET engine )
>>736822903Oh hey it's the unc that crashed out crying about Drumpf in the solar panel video.
>>736819760Restrictions AND the WILL to surpass them are what give rise innovation.Nothing else.Nowadays, we have too many options and it takes years if not decades, until you can be in a position that is allowed to push those boundaries, and after so much time, it is a miracle if the corporate world doesn't mold you to their ends, instead of you being principled enough to hold strong.Add to that, that we've seen time and again that the personalities that arise to such positions, more often than not, aren't the ones that have a love for gaming. They just love the "game."To answer your question, it all went wrong when the admin and finance types realized that there was money to be made in this industry.
>>736821857100% honest, I actually don't care if the survey is real or fake, because I know gameplay is king and Osho is right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE>>736822903>Ethan DeKlein
>>736819760unreal engine
>>736819760Zoomers being the most retarded generation that has ever existed is where it all went wrongThey can put all those retarded requirements for games so Nvidia can sell the latest GPUs because zoomers are braindead and will kept buying the latest shining product
>>736819760Software engineers are working tirelessly around the clock to undo the gains done by hardware engineers.
>>736821857This is probably true but what you have to remember is that gamers means normies, not you or I. Gaming is ultra mainstream, we make up a small minority of our own hobbies consumer base these days and while we may value substance over graphics, normies value graphics and the ability to finish a game in a sitting or two so they can go back to being insufferable.
>>736821857A shocking amount of people literally do not know what they like.
>>736822247>Minecraft is simple but perfectMinecraft is the simple but perfect litmus test of whether any given person has even the remotest sense of aesthetics or will just blindly attach to whatever is placed in front of them during their formative years
>>736824807what a quaint opinionGod bless that we can express our opinions on this website liberally with no regard for how retarded we sound.
>>736825018Yeah you'd know a lot about retarded opinions.
i'm still playing the original x--com from 1994
>>736823938This is shockingly commonOften times ultra settings crank up a bunch of shit that while technically being better require insane pixel hunting to find out what changed but kills performance.Like most the time I don't even know why they bother with an ultra preset when high is 99% identical and perform much better in most cases.
>>736823360Uhhnnnn~ That's right, make me a mommy~
>>736819760Limitations breed creativity. Texhnological advancements have made it easier to be stupid and get away with it.
>>736819872>>736819889fpbp
>>736823938fog and volumetric lighting are the two biggest fps killers in modern games while barely changing graphics. valve had to go the extra mile to redo the counter strike smoke multiple times because it murdered everyones fps everytime.
>>736821857people will say one thing and then display a completely different traitif this were true Fortnite and League of Legends wouldn't be the biggest games in the world
>>736819872>>736819889There's something really poetic about a couple of midwits making identical statements while talking about creativity.
>>736819760Games "needing" to be so big and relatively complex to accommodate grafixfags, that studios don't bother making their own engines anymore, and outsource as many aspects as possible, and just use one of several engines, making their games not only unoptimized, but seemingly bland and generic as fuckGrafixfags will disagree because they refuse to acknowledge they're part of the problem, just as much as corpo shareholder fucks
Devs forgot how to code non-gpu 3d
And it is going to get worse where developers won't even put in the effort to make anything, just let the AI upscale/remodel everything in real time. Consumer hardware? Fuck 'em lmao
>>736827958Terry was a schizo, but he was so correct when it came to modern computing and yearning to go back to the wild west days.
>>736821857>Gamers value graphics over gameplay>Said the incompetent games journalistGames that focused more on narrative and graphical fidelity is a direct result of retards like Dean Takahashi being too retarded to understand how leveling up in an RPG works and giving poor reviews for it. That's not a result of the customer base, but the people meant to inform said customer base about potential products.
>>736827852How would you rephrase it in a more creative manner?>Having fuck all to work with necessitates innovation
>>736827958software mode is extremely slow
>>736828206Considering 90% of indies fail for a variety of reasons, I won't leave them out of the incompetency circus that AAA devs take up the overwhelming majority of the billing for.
>>736827852Faggot.
>>736828250Use AI to figure out a way to make it better
>>736828647they did. its called using a threadripper. but thats still slower than a ps3s gpu.
>>736823558>oblivion gate in the background photo ruined
>>736819760Blame Xbox/PS chasing graphics since PS3/360 era and kept chasing it ever since. UE5 was also worked with SONY. Sony and Microsoft have desperatly tried to sell graphics to people and what happened? Dozens of studios closed, they got 0 games to show for it and games keeps getting delayed or cancelled. Both of them have used graphics essentially against consumers and Nintendo, trying to upsell people constantly. And all these dogshit companies still don't bother to optimize for PC so no amount of power is ever enough for them. They just let hardware do the work and then they go and make the next game and it's even more unoptimized. So now Xbox is dead and Sony's gonna release a console that's at least $1000 lol
>>736828206>Yes, I know indie games are an exceptionLol. Lmao.
>>736821857come back with a survey that shows gamers prefer expensive graphics over good looking graphics
>>736819872>>736819889In actuality, game devs back then were either professional software engineers looking to make it big in the then new and emerging market of interactive software entertainment, or hyper obsessive tech nerds brimming with creativity and looking for the best way to express and distribute their creations - video games being one of the best ways to do so. The barrier of entry for video game development was a lot higher back then due to software being not as understood back then, so if you wanted to make a game you REALLY had to commit to it and make sure it's the best you could make it.Nowadays those people are no longer in the industry. The software engineers left because the growing tech market gave them more lucrative opportunities, and the nerds were muscled out by the hyper inflated budgets that came with time until indie development became more popular. All that's left in the industry are businessmen who have never played a game in their life, funded by shareholders who never played a video game in their life, and developers who might play videogames but absolutely hate the videogames they make (see: Ubisoft).It's less about the limitations and more about passion for the field. People back then wanted to use the medium to make cool and unique suit. The limitations only refer to programming solutions and graphical fidelity. In reality, look at games like Concord, Starfield, or Highguard and tell me these devs actually play videogames or even care about the betterment of software development at all.
Graphics must get better in spite of diminishing returns and exponentially higher hardware requirements so that flashy new hardware can be sold that'll run games with flashy new graphics. Graphics truly peaked with the widespread adoption of PBR around 2013-2016. Most games from around that time don't look like they're a decade old.
>>736823938How are you drawing more power with lower settings?
>>736824084How has that not already gone up in a mushroom cloud when top left and top middle are cross contacting clearly right there.
>>736830032higher framerate = more wattage
>>736830032Looks like top is CPU bound, the GPU is spending more time waiting than actually doing anything.
>>736819760It should be self evident right from the OP that the limitations inspired creativity. It requires an actually smart disciplined careful mind wanting to make the absolute most possible out of a limited space in which to paint. Someone who knows what is worth keeping and what is just crap watering down a game that can be cut out with minimal damage.Those same thoughtful people were also a lot of the first ones working in the 3D space when the games first started to appear, still in the business and just trying to adapt, and brought that efficient and abnormally insightful and creative ethos with them.Then over decades, those people who prided themselves on how to make the most out of whatever was on an SNES and make seemingly impossible neigh-magical stuff happen with it, start to just retire naturally. Their replacements have feel no pressure for constraints or for optimizing what is truly worth it or not for a game and it shows. I'm not that good a cook and if you have me my kitchen vs a Michelin staff one the grub I came up with would probably not vastly improve. As to why rando less talented people are in the space, the industry itself just kind of sucks and is not selecting for unusually talented people now. A shitty exploitative high stress industry with shit pay is not gonna hold the really crazy good contributers, at least not in most places vs their congregating at a couple studios that hold themselves to far higher goals than the norm.
>>736830032what >>736830173 saiddrawing more frames isnt free your memory needs to process that
>>736823360nooo i dont want to be bread!
>>736824084shit like this gives me panic attacks
>>736833305Jesus Christ...
>>736828206there's a bit of irony about this image using 'jaks instead of even trying to mspaint doodle shit
>>736819760white people are not allowed into game development since the 2010s
>>736833305what's the problem?
>>736819760$80 for a piece of plastic (Game Key Card) with minimal data btw
>>736819760>BeginningPassion for the burgeoning craft, purity of vision with constant innovation and self-made successes>MiddleHighly refined works born from lessons learned coupled with massive output but power has long begun to consolidate and corruption begins>EndStagnation, inflation, soulless trend chasing, unrefined bloat, by all general metrics the craft is more advanced than ever due to amassed knowledge yet there is an obvious devolution and the parasites have drained all potential that once was until there is nothing left but a unsavable husk There. I just described every industry, discipline and art form.
>>736827852literally midwit: the post
DQ8 still looks fucking awesome graphically and it was a ps2 game, 4 fucking mb of vram
>>736819760less restriction on hiresless nerds and autistics and more nonwhites/nonasians without critical thinking capabilities lead to where we are now, it's factual no matter what
>>736829374The same thing is happening across all entertainment. People try to emulate the titans of the past, but they don't actually understand what they're emulating.>PSX game was good? It was because it had low poly graphics. Let's make an Unreal project in blueprints that requires a 5090 to maintain 10fps with PSX-like graphics>Star Wars was good? It's because of laser swords, weird aliens, and codpieces. Let's make a movie that focuses on that
>>736834024Are you retarded?The red nut clashes with the colors of the other nuts
>>736819847Heh I see what you did there.
>>736833305mmmm gumny cande....
>>736824149Was that the same one where he was talking about dew, then said something like>That's DEW. Not DUE, as in DUE PROCESS which our country has thrown out the window!I was listening to that while doing something and it was jarring as fuck. Dude, I'm here to learn about how dishwashers and shit functions, if I wanted to know about everyone's take on world politics I'd go to fucking twitter. What a dickhead.
>>736833305It's not a true horror story until you slap off the ONLY main breaker and 30 minutes later it's still dark red.Coincidentally me and my friend quit being electricians that week.
>>736828368>90% of indiesGood results. Maybe. When you take into account that 95% of games don't make their money back. But asset flips and such probably skew those stats.
>>736821857Graphics here means "fps greater than 15"
>>736835467photoshooop
>>736827852>no argument, just "u dum!!!"midwit moment
No more White and Japanese peepo
>>736821857>gamers
>>736836057anon that's just a 400 EUR light sold by the krauts back in 2008 as a gag itemit's funny until someone pulls the fire alarm due to it
>>736824391Wrong generation.
>>736829374>The barrier of entry for video game development was a lot higher back thenironically, the scope of a game was microscopic compared to today>>736835017it's not even about whether they understand or not. it's that they just pile layer of bloatware upon layer of bloatware on top of things. performance is not even a consideration
Low-brow games are the easiest to make for big companies. It also allows them to later write it off as a 6 gorillion shekels project and pocket more money.
>>736819854You cant reedeem the poor saar.
>>736834024anon, if one of the bolts has enough energy flowing through it TO HEAT IT RED FUCKING HOTthen that means it has enough voltage and amps to literally explode your head like a potato in a microwave if any part of you or your clothes brushed against it. or even got within a foot of it.
>>736819760Why the hell we must spending more effort to make the game run better when you just can bruteforce it with more vga and ram.
>>736829374we will never have another "Iwata managed to fit Kanto into the cartridge somehow" story in game dev ever again
>>736836847>pokefagJesus, I hate you people. You're just as bad as Harry Potterfags.
>>736822713While you’re at it, bring back memory cards, make the controller vibrate with the intensity of a hedge trimmer like the Dualshock 2 and add Daxter and all his voice clips to every game.
>>736827852
>>736837038alright anon.name a similar feat in game design
>>736822713If that comes in exchange of the developers putting more attention into the gameplay instead of trying to turn it into some kind of fucking movie masquerading as a videogame then yeah I would play a modern ps2 game.
>>736819889This.I'm a fucking retard with zero gamedev skills. Withing a few hours even I could make a near photorealstic house in UE5. It struggled on my 4090, but thats the end users problem.
>>736821857that article is as old as half of 4chan
>>736824149He was right.
>>736829374I mean, you still needed to have your Romero's who also really liked gaming, often played the games they made, and figured how best the player would react to their mechanics (having personally played themselves). We need just as many nerds who like games and want to make them as we do the tech nerds to make it work, and the marketing nerds to get it to the right audience.Problem is, the industry isn't filled with as many intelligent nerds and instead filled with fags, women, and browns.
>>736838450he was right for the wrong reasons because he's an obese faggot
>>736830105it just works
>>736838450This, I for one could no longer stand back and accept that reTHUGlican abuse of BIPOC folk, glad to see others aren't tolerating it either.
>>736840420Actually this setup is supposed to be for safety and bolts don't work as a fuse, quite the opposite.
something something limitation promotes innovation
>>736840990It works but it defeats the purpose for fuses. Fuses are there to fail at the fuse and not damage important electrical components. If anything goes wrong there it could fuck up everything instead of replacing a cheap fuse
>>736821857I dont think they asked the correct questions. What does "quality of the graphics" mean? Do they want to see every pore on someone's face or do they just want a good aesthetic? Where it can be pixel, to anime to ultra realistic.
>>736821857
>>736821431What was the last game his name was on?
>>736843076Wow and how much was Wii sports at launch?
>>736843309Gunny Google suggests it cost roughly $50 if sold separately, but often was part of a packaged deal with the Wii itself, which were likely also used for total sales of the game. If we adjust for inflation, Wii Sports would've sold for $70 today. So about the same as the average AAA game cost for what amounts to a large pack of mini-games. Though given the motion capture mechanics were the big draw for the Wii at the time, that was probably just fine as a selling point.
>>736843456>Gunny Google suggestsBut what does cunny google suggest? >but often was part of a packaged deal with the Wii itself, So if you can just readjust that number and not count america/sales that it was bundled with an actual product people wanted that would be great.>that was probably just fine as a selling point.It didn't need a selling point because apparently it didn't have to be sold. They gave it to you without selling it in fact. So please discount the ones that were obviously and demonstrable not even sold.
>>736843686>So please discount the ones that were obviously and demonstrable not even sold.That's going to be difficult because all sales figures given appear to include bundled deals as well, so that definitely inflated the numbers. It's unlikely people bought Wii Sports by itself, but simply owned it because they bought a Wii console bundle, which then probably counted as a sale for both the console and the game.
>>736834024your skin color.
>>736844179So the chart is bullshit. Shall we talk about Mario Kart deluxe next because I don't see 79 million sales more than I see 79 million discounted 1 year NSO subscriptions and switch purchases.>human:fall flatIs Wikipedia getting paid ads now? Literally what is this?
>>736824391Normalfags are cattle consumers regardless of generation.
>>736827852Damn, based anon sent the midwits into pure seethe.
>>736819889proof accessibility and inclusivity is actually cancer
>>736838558>We need just as many nerds who like games and want to make them as we do the tech nerds to make it work, and the marketing nerds to get it to the right audience.That's what the indie scene is for. Unfortunately trannies and, more recently, AI jeets have been flooding it.
>>736819760>be gamedev>must upload a new 3D model to the repository>the model is 600Mb because of some jeet>no git lfs because some idiots manage the infra>the repository is already 100Gb because of this shit>take an hour to optimize the model to 30Mb>manager learns of this>get screamed at for wasting time and that storage is cheap (it's fucking not, go ahead and work with a 100Gb repository it's slow as shit)
>>736819760back then you had to be good at math and shit to program a game, see all the retarded math shit in the doom engine or how pokemon has to assign shit to individual sections of memory or how crash deletes the PS1 OS. the fucking fags making games now are using tools someone else made and have far less knowledge of advanced math and how computers work on the hardware level than the Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 guy because shit like unreal makes the barrier to entry that much lower.This is all intentional, by the way. Guys like Chris Sawyer, Carmack and Satoshi are all rich as fuck and got paid super well back in the day because they had those advanced math and computer skills. companies would rather have shitty devs use unity and unreal because their labor costs less
>>736843076Don't laugh too hard ok
>>736844394NTA but the switch 1 bundle didn't include MK8 as a pack-in, it cost as much as buying a switch + MK8.
>>736822289Can't blame the guyI'd all fall trying to score some ladysnek cloaca
>>736819760Every normalfag retard learned to code around ~2005 when Google and Apple blew up and the rumor spread that coding was an easy six figure paycheck. The irony is that normalfags interview better than giga nerds so normalfags get all the programmer jobs. That is why software is generally shit now
>>736848808I can't imagine the kind of person who puts up with the interview humiliation ritual these days considering companies do shit like make you do 3-5 rounds of interviews, including take home assignments, and then the fags don't even tell you if you're not being considered anymore
>>736827852Fucking lol
>>736819760Covid really accelerated and exposed the decay of the video game industry. They overhired people for superfluous bullshit like "UX design" and then act surprised when their bloated projects with overblown budgets fail to produce anything of worth. The real talent is becoming scarce these days, modern devs just want "muh fluid workflow" that allows them to push slop into the next build ASAP so they can put a check mark on whatever they work on.
>>736848808>The irony is that normalfags interview better than giga nerds so normalfags get all the programmer jobs. That is why software is generally shit nowthe jobs pay less now. there are internal government docs from the 80s that got released in a congressional hearing in the early 90s about how they were trying to get more stem workers (by student visa and h1b) to lower the wages of stem workers who were making a lot. there has never and will never be a skill gap. people poured into coding once it became easy for those high paying jobs and then wages went down which is exactly what all of the software companies wanted
>>736849337the over hiring was because some retarded ass VCs like embracer thought the turnaround time for AAA games was like 1 year or something fucking retarded.
>>736828647>you made it worse!>"You're absolutely right! Let me fix that"Ad infinitum.
>>736819760>Where did it all go so wrong?api overhead and high level programming.why optimize and make your own graphcis api when directx and vulkan exist? or even why program an api at all when the engine you use already has api bindings in the background. yeah its fucking stupid but its also not financially viable to reinvent the wheel for every game. there is also not talent anymore that is working on a very low level.
>>736819889But how exactly is creativity breeded by limitation? Asking for a friend
>>736850135limitations stop you from taking the lazy way around and force you to avoid the path of least resistance. they raise the skill floor, filtering talentless hacks give up before they even begin
>>736850135Creativity was just chilling at home in comfy sweatpants, when she bend over to turn the console on she didn't notice limitation was standing behind her. Limitation couldn't help herself and mere seconds later creativity was getting bred mating press style by limitations giant futa cock.
>>736827852>Isn't it poetic that multiple people can come to the same obvious conclusion?Not really, no.
>>736849527>makes shit worse>blows sunshine up your ass >doesn't know wtf it's talking about >constantly gaslights you>shoves itself into every interactionthey don't even make for good sexbots as anyone with a shred of intelligence will start to see the patterns forming in their word choices and behavior after a dozen prompts, which does not get better no matter how much you finagle the prefixat least women have a hole, AI isn't even good for that
>>736837038it's a good example of devs managing to pull off bullshit with the limited tech they had access to, you don't have to be a cunt about it
>>736819760The real answer is that games have become a bigger entertainment industry and that instead of small, passionate and focused teams, we have big companies chasing trends and profits above all else. Games used to be made by nerds for nerds. The sweet spot was when it was a bunch of mostly white and asian STEM nerds doing cool shit, like with id software, old Square Enix, Naughty Dog or Looking Glass Studios. Now it's all retarded women, fags and browns on 200 man teams. There are still really interesting indie games being made, but most of the complainers here will never play them. Luckily AA games have made somewhat of a comeback recently. I just hope that niche doesn't get too commercialized after E33's success and dorito pope shilling every fucking game at his shows as "another passion project by a small 30 man team". The retard answer is this>>736819872>>736819889and is spouted by underage brown kids who know less than nothing about gamedev or game history and just want to inanely scream about "slop", UE5 and optimization despite not understanding anything.
>>736848808It's not normalfags anymore, it's jeets lying about credentials being hired by jeet consulting firms.
>>736852386I agree with the Japs more on this. I don't care if a game is short, I just want it to be fun to play that I can keep replaying it regardless. I've replayed Dead Space 1/2 every year for Halloween. Still just as fun, despite EA making that progressively harder for DS2 thanks to the fucking CD key limit still in effect despite Gamestop being basically dead.
>>736819760Making things easier for people means retards get a seat at the table.
>>736823360Great work now he's pregurgnut
>>736852986h-hot
>>736835434The reason it's jarring is probably why he did it.I can understand feeling like you should take advantage of your platform to get a message out if it's that fucking dire.At least he made a clean version without the crashout at the end.
>>736850135You have to think harder about it
>>736850135You're a great example. You lack the processing power to understand how Limitation breeds creativity inherently, so I have to work harder to come up with a colorful analogy that makes it easier for you to understand with your limited IQ.
>>736850135>"All scientific advancement due to intelligence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement. No advancement, culture stagnates. Works other way too. Advancement before culture is ready. Disastrous."
>>736856231>hard times create strong men>strong men create good times>good times create weak men>weak men create hard timestl;dr real men are made to suffer and struggle ad infinitum, enjoying bad
>>736852386The West has more answers in "Unique and attractive characters" so actually they love them more than the japs do as well. They simply have more love for videogames in their hearts.
>>736821431This is such a retarded take. People these days throw a temper tantrum if their game's graphics are up to expectations on par with the AAA games that they regularly consume. The trite little story of 'just focus on good gameplay' is a gigantic cope when shitty art direction and bad graphics turn away people in the end anyways
>>736857506>People these days throw a temper tantrum if their game's graphics are up to expectations on par with the AAA gamesI don't want games on par with AAA trash, so it makes sense
>>736856987I hate that saying. Every retard on earth is convinced everyone else is weak and they must be the strong man to fix it, but it's always just cope and ad hoc justification for their own ego driven world view.
>>736850135Turns out. Having less and having something be harder breeds ways for one to overcome them as is the whole point of humans. We are literally meant to imagine a better world or what could be with what we got as mother nature needed a species to see into the future because she can't do it herself, as selection can only know what happened and what is in the now
>why does 4k resolution use 32gb of vram?Because, you drooling retards, the compute cost per pixel scales exponentially not linearly. If you had a functional brain you'd be playing at 2k native and be more than happy with any mid range GPU on the market as they can ALL run 2k/high settings with zero issue.
>>736859446Yet /v/ is endlessly fellating the so-called Skyrim/witcher killer Crimson Desert and ITS AMAZING VISUALS
>>736859843I'm ok with shit like saiyuki and goemon for the snes though? shadow of the colossus-tier tops
>>736827852You will never be a white 90s game dev, dei jeet
>>736833305Fuck that shit. I'd rather either be a carpenter or clean cletus's poop pipes
>>736851147It's why my ass went straight back to deepseek from claude. Claude is great with coding but completely retarded with writing papers and everything else that I almost got caught. The chinese win on the simple fact that seek would tell you if it didn't know
>>736840521But chud, don't you know DemoRATS are the REAL RACISTS!?
>>736822078>Minecraft is the best selling videogame of all timeactually it's tetrisor oregon trail depending on who you askall dogass lookin games howeverthoughbeit. you didn't need a budget of $300m and a mocap dept to make any of these titles and games like them regularly outsell the ones that do. grafisxfags get the rope.
>>736819760>Normification.IT expanding its recruitment needs a thousand times around the 90s did not correspond to a thousand times increase in IT-minded people.You just got a whole bunch of people who before would have been some random paper pusher suddenly get pushed in engineering to fill the needs.Overall level dropped massively from that.>Common core-ificationThen the needs expanded even further, and IT schools had to *massively* lower their standards and simplify their teachings to ensure even genuine midwits could get the diploma and help fill the needs. 90% of all "best practices" and "ideal architecture" are just there to ensure even someone who objectively doesn't understand how shit work will still shit out something that vaguely do the job - optimization and elegance being entirely sacrificed for the sake of "at least it work".Overall level dropped massively from that.>DEI-fication, jeetificationSame as everywhere, but it's engineering so the effects are dramatically visible.>AI will save itLol no. Anyone whose management forced to use AI at work will tell you: that shit is so not anywhere near ready it's actually a liability to give it direct access to anything.It's decent as a pseudo-search engine, and that's it.Vibe-coding give shit results, and fail at anything of significant size or complexity.
>>736860965I prefer Demoflat vs Rebooblican. Not that's a political choice the player can be invested in.
>>736860965Recublicans... won?
>>736861378>actually it's tetrisActually it isn't. Tetris is only more when you combine all of the different remakes. Completely dishonest.
>>736850885No because that opinion is someone else's. What crazy things are they going to say next? "Good artstyle is more important that realism?" "Cgi is good when it's invisible?"
>>736865165minecraft's sales figures are also the sum of like 20 different versions. you don't get to tell me the most-played game of all time is just the java version lol.oregon trail is also one of the most ported games of all time and it's up there as one of the most sold games ever and that countsfuck you
>>736865548Water is wet?
>>736865959Minecraft is porting the same game to different platformTetris is counting completely different remakes with new mechanics and gameplay
>>736867512>same gamecompare beta to current and it's a completely different game, complete with an engine change (bedrock)
>>736867512bedrock and education editions aren't the same gamebedrock still doesn't even have feature parity with java and that's being counted in the hundreds of millions because that's the shit version that's on consolesyou're arguing that GTAV shouldn't be counted either because the modern versions are way different than they were initially on PS3/xboxit's a fucking wikipedia list who gives a fuck you nigger
>>736837360>controllerAlso, make controllers last literally centuries without needing to be repaired or replaced.I literally never had to buy more than 2 controllers in the entire generation of PS2 gaming. Even in the 360 era I rarely had to buy additional controllers. With the PS4/XONE controllers literally stated dying every year or less. I don't even drop or slam them, I treat them better than ever and they crap out on me so often I've started to look into just using old 360 controllers on modern systems.
>>736820104>vram is a bottleneck>every time vram doubles so does resource usage
>>736827852>house is on fire>bystander A: hmm........there's a gascan, some old newspaper, and a bic lighter over there on the sidewalk. likely arson>bystander b: yeah I was about to say, this is totally arson>suddenly gay faggot anon, phd, flies in on his cloud of farts that he also sniffs"you fukken dumbass retards said THE SAME THING!!!!! i am so smart for noticing that. here's my super creative original theory (do not steal): it just spontaneously combusted ok">suddenly mr. gay faggot combusts as his farts reach the burning house
>>736867725>>736867760>b-b-but updatesStill the same game. It was bought once and you get updates for free. You have a problem with it? Okay then compare the highest selling single version of Minecraft to the highest selling single version of Tetris. Minecraft wins. You're a fucking retard trying to say Tetris, Super Tetris, Tetris 2, Tetris Classic, Tetris & Mario etc all count as one game. Retarded.
>>736868531there's more like 50 versions of tetris and every attempt to "update" it has included it as well.
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>>736867789>every time vram doubles so does resource usageGood thing Nvidia is shipping their cards with basically the same amount of VRAM they had 10 years ago then.
>>736867465None of those are true though, creators have always wished they weren't as limited hence VFX R&D sector. Now that you have less limitations if it sucks you have the wrong people making the game, which is usually the case.
>>736819760incompetence
>>736827852>student 1: 2+2=4>student 2: 2+2=4>teacher: wow SOOOOO original student 2
>>736821857Either they asked loaded questions, or it's literally a paid-shilling article meant to help sell graphic cardI would not trust any screenshot of this from a random website.
If I wanted to hire a competent programmer for an indie game who could do that, would I need to be rich? Are they even out there? Getting rid of white men has been a disaster
>>736872585lmao
>>736859515>Every retard on earth is convinced everyone else is weak and they must be the strong man to fix itnot me, I will not lift a single finger, you can all crash and choke gargling jewish cum for all that I care
>>7368227136th gen is the peak of graphics
this is also applicable to anime
>>736877594why does that graph match the ratio of browns to non-browns? just what are you trying to imply?
>>736819872>>736819889What you mean to say is the game devs of old were more disciplined with optimisation because they had to be given the restrictions."Limitation breeds creativity." is just you spouting some line you heard at one point. Even though it's not them being more creative in this case and that line has a bunch of exceptions as it is.
Why optimize when you can off load costs to customers? Both software and hardware industry win while you can't even render a modern game in 60 fps 4k with your behemoth of a computer with industrial grade fans
>>736834209Don't forget the medium has been taken over by a corrupt political movement hell bent on forcing you to accept insane propaganda! No, cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman lol. I don't care what a video says
>>736821994Cringe picture considering who created batman
>>736882603The same could be said of Jesus
