Do you use guides when you get stuck in video games?
Messy bed
>>736829215No I just cheat. Fuck games.
>>736829215I can't judge this guy because this puzzle always takes me forever to figure out too even though I've done it multiple times.
>>736829215If there's a lot of missables, especially in a jrpg or something, I absolutely do a guide to get everything, especially if there's a bitchin weapon or armor that's not on the main path
>>736829778how would you know without first looking it up?
>>736829896You play enough games, you kinda get a sense of which do that and which don't Modern games don't offer much in that way anymore, they barely even do unlockables, but are more than happy using passes and dlc as crutchesThat said, philosophically, for me, games are for fun, and that's how I have fun with those games
>>736829215Depends. In most singleplayer games, I don't. But If I get stuck at something for a hour+ I do. I most commonly use guides in games I finish and enjoy enough to replay and have fun looking up meta strategies and consesus opinions. Like in multiplayer games or strategy games.When it comes to old JRPGs or CRPGs, the issue is less about getting stuck and more about not getting bored and dropping the game.
>>736829215I want Claude to attempt this so badly
>>736829215I can't watch american streamers.
>>736829215It's over for zoomers.
>>736829215He had it first try
>>736830484You would evaporate the entire ocean before Claude could figure it out without prompts. It would spend tens of billions of hours just walking into the boulders.
>>73683362395
>>736829896go into the highest rated FAQ and ctrl-f the word "missable"
I wish Adventures of Lolo made a comeback as a digital game with new pixel art
>>736829703it's also possible to glitch this puzzle out by accidentally cloning one of the boulders, making it entirely impossible to beat.
>>7368336230?
>>736829215The first attempt was right, he just needed to push the one on the other side up and then the one in the midle to either side.
>>736833623Uuuuuuuuuh 5?
>>736829778>not being notified in game, your phone, mail and by your mother that the side content is available>not marked in the map with and an icon constantly pointing at its direction on the screen >instantly missable. terrible game. 0/10 will never play it again over missing a potion.
>>736833623$100, because I steal the money back after.
>>736829215If I'm stuck on something for multiple days, I will use a guide as a replacement for asking a friend what they did.
I ask questions to google so I dont get spoiled everything
>>736833623I have a feeling I'm wrong
>>736837824Based Bethesda game player
I had trouble with the Sootopolis gym puzzle, the one where you walk on ice. The last bit took me forever
>>736829215That's a legit fun puzzle
>>7368336230, because change refers to coins, and the merchant only returns you in four $20 bills, a $10, and a fiver, fuck you layton you fucking cheating prick
>>736829778Ever since playing Cave Story as a kid and missing out on the true final boss I do this. Especially for Japanese games because they love this trope
>>736833623>camera and case = 310ok>camera is 300 more than the caseok that means the case is 10>set - cost of caseok that confirms above>just buy the case with 100ok, that means you get 90 backnow, thats the obvious answer but I know there's some fuckery, so what is it
>>736838628>>736829778Way to ruin your playthrough and make it feel like work. You can just ask google "are there any missables"
>>736833482thiswhy did it cut off?
>>736829703Same. Also streamers have an inherent disadvantage in being seen by other people. It's already an issue for action games and such but for puzzle and strategy games, unless it's a high stakes scenario that has all your focus, your performance will be triply affected by peer pressure.>am I taking too long to figure this out?etc
>>736839184it's 95I read the explanation whyI still don't get itthis is bullshit fuck you Layton
>>736838061I hate math so much its unreal, bros.>t. STEM major
>>736839184>>736839816>ok that means the case is 10No, it means that the camera is 300 + the cost of the case.If x is the cost of the case, then 300+x is the cost of the camera. And the cost of the set is (300+x) + x = 310 --> 300 + 2x = 310 --> 2x = 10 --> x = 5.Thus, the case just costs 5. And the camera costs 305. So if you just want the case and hand over 100, you should get 95 back. The trick is understanding that the cost of the case is technically counted twice.
>>736830871Critical thinking and problem solving skills is considered "woke" now.
But he's like two inputs away from solving it...
>>736839816>set price is 310>camera is 300 MORE than the caseif the case was 10 then the camera would be 310 and the set would be 320get it now?
>>736840020Nigger, woke is the antithesis to critical thinking and problem solving.
>>736840020>are you going to help me?>"no I'm recording a video"outside of the context of a dumbass opening a can, this is why this planet is fucked in 2 sentences
>>736840020>dude at least tries to figure out the tool>older generation didnt teach him basic skilsits not the gotcha that you thought it was
can I ask claude? I heard hes pretty good at boulder puzzles
>>736838061>>736840096>>736839942You're confusing yourself with the x and y bullshit.The words are very straightforward and not actually confusing, misleading or tricksy.>Set costs £310>Camera is 300 more than case>Case costs set minus cameraSet minus camera ..is just caseSo set (310) minus camera (300) ..is case (10)There is no need for x2-y and yx(5)It's a word puzzle, not an algebra test and if the game says otherwise then the devs did the same horseshit you did and worded the question in a bizarre way to try and catch people out
>>736829215Now im remembering playing the talos principle and me being a brainlet had to look at a youtube video for a couple of them. Every single youtube video had some retard commenting, some variation of "this was the first and only one I needed help on" as the most liked
>>736833623as I do with life I brute force it.
>>736833623>>736840460why is this shit 50 picarats?
>>736840460it takes some serious retardation to reply to a post that outlines exactly why you're wrong in simple terms a 5 year old could understand and then proclaim yourself rightkudos
>>736840460Let me guess#4C2909?
>>736840460well, the case and camera set being 310 is assumed to be the sale price. That means it can be a lower price than if you buy the two separately, so technically the other anons are right. Yes the puzzle says that case + camera = 310 but it doesnt say the camera is 300. It says the camera is 300 more than the case. Similarly, it doesnt say that the case price is the camera price minus the case price, it says the case costs 310 minus the value of the camera.
>>736840460if the camera is $300 more than the case ($10) the camera would cost $310. but we know the price for the set is $310 including the case.
>>736840020This is a condemnation of his parents
>>736839203Actually it was the developers who ruined my first playthrough because they put missable stuff in the game that I missed.
>>736833623why the fuck are there so many retarded browns in hereif they're 310 and one is 300 more than the other it's just a+(a+300) = 310, so one's 5 and one is 305."Case costs the price of both minus the camera" is just meant to sound confusing, but it's saying the case's price is the case's price.Am I going insane? Is this shitposting? This is 2nd grade stuff.
>>736840020Why would he know how to use a can opener if he never had to and nobody taught him to? This is some weird thing boomers do where they can't understand kids don't know things they haven't learned. I'm not gonna be angry when I hear gen alpha doesn't know how to put a CD in a CD case, why the fuck would they?
>>736829215Aren't asian dicklets supposed to be smart?
>>736842347Because not being able to figure out such a simple design without being thought is a bad sign. It isn't an 8 year old.The only can opener I've ever used are the simple ones with a hook, but when I first ran into one of these types of openers it didn't take me long to figure out how to place it and use it.
>>736842520>thought instead of taughtYou can't call him stupid now damn.
>>736842520> The only can opener I've ever used are the simple ones with a hookYet you're not smart enough to realise that this made it much easier for you to figure out more complex one.
>>736829215This actually troubled me a bit as an 8 year old, i learnt to stop and solve it in my head before moving, now most puzzles are easy
How is anyone supposed to know how to do Cave story true ending?
>>736833623S+M=310S+300=MS+S+300=M+S => 2S=310-300 => S=5100-5=95Not going to include a tip because fuck this nigga for making you do linear algebra to pay him
>>736842724>Much easierYou still make it sound like a can opener is some complex mechanism. My entire point is that not being able to figure out how it works is a sign of retardation because it is so simple.And again, it is a 16 year old, he is allowed to drive in 2 years for fucks sake.
>>736842948Word of mouth. The only bullshit point in the game is that you need to ignore Professor Booster in the Labyrinth and progress onwards so he doesn't give up the ghost and makes it back to Arthur's house, so he can finish working on the Booster 2.0. The natural course of action would be to jump down that pit and check on him.
>>736829215Was he trying to do it with a minimum of moves or something?
>>736830871>>736829215He had it right in the beggining.
>>736833623GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ALL LAYTON, FUCK OFF
>>736844317you don't understand. these retards can't see possible future states. they just move about randomly until they get their desired state. you can see it pretty clearly when he stops moving at 0:59
>>736829215Only once in the last decade.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Okjf_VdJQAnd it just made me mad.
>>736833623It's literally just 90, but Layton fucking cheats and just makes shit up so it doesn't matter.
>>736844678>The set costs 310>The camera costs 300 more than the caseIf you got 90 back that means the case costs 10. That would mean, with the camera costing 300 more, that it would cost 310.310 (camera) + 10 (case) = 320
>>736829215I overuse them, I look up too much shit. I'm trying to stop but there's always the instinct to go to the internet when I'm unsure of where to go. It's not like I don't recognize that I feel satisfied when I figure shit out on my own, either, I just default to looking shit up.
>>736830484> I WANNA WATCH BING BING WAHOO AI PLAY POKEMANS WHILE MY WIFE FUCKS TYRONEFucking loser kill yourself
>>736829215Literally me but with everything
>>736844582>get stuck on a Baba level for 3 hours>take a week long break>come back to the game>beat the level in 20 seconds because the answer is so fucking obvious but I somehow didn't see it for 3 hoursBaba gets me angrier than getting baited on /v/
>>736829215It depends what I'm stuck onIf its a puzzle or something that I genuinely think I can genuinely solve or figured out with more time I will keep tryingIf its some cryptic bullshit that I literally wouldn't have figured out without a guide I have no issues with looking it up
>>736833623>the case costs the price of the set minus the cost of the cameraI hand the merchant the cost of the case minus the cost of the case plus the cost of the case minus the cost of the case plus the cost of the case minus the cost of the case plus the cost of the case minus the cost of the case plus 100 pounds.
>>736844563ayo hol upso yu be sayinIf there is a puzzle that requires forethought an X steps in advance lowest common denominator zoomergroid will be eliminated?
niggas don't know the charger was sold separately IM LOOKING AT YOU ECKERS
are there any good puzzle games that are actually fun to play?
>>736846523Yes. I bet none of them can without looking it up first solve escape room tier puzzles.
>>736842303do you ACTUALLLY believe that 2nd grade students are having letters and symbology in their maths?they are learning their fucking times tables at that point
>>736839942>The trick is understanding that the cost of the case is technically counted twice.that's a retarded "trick", why would the case be counted twice? i understand them wanting gotchas for the players, but those should make sense and not be idiotic
>>736833623>You want a cool puzzle, anon? Calculate the first 10 numbers of piMath does not count as a puzzle, faggot.
>>736833623100, it's only sold as a set.
>>736834310>accidentally cloning one of the bouldersIs that a thing?
>>736829215I did once back when I was 7-10 years old. That capture things with the net to unlock spin attack in gba ALTtP had one part that I just couldn't figure out, the powdered green electro sponge
>deletedholyfuck the no fun police are here!
What are the worst puzzles in video games that still qualify as a puzzle?for me it's Silent Hill 2 remake where all of the puzzles were 4th grade math problems where you solve for X.>>736846696I liked puzzle agent 1 and 2.Silent Hill f on lost in the fog was challenging enough.
>>736846696Try gussun oyoyo. It's tetris meets lemmings. I got hooked on it and ended up playing all of the games.
>>736846776Sorry I'm not American, we had simple formulas like this in 2nd grade and did multiplication and division by 3rd grade.
>>736846776anon, the answer is so simple and obvious you can just intuit it without having to write anything down. just split the difference in half. what the fuck are we talking about here?
>>736838257Me too as a child, I even cried
>>736844891uh oh melty
>>736846696
If you cannot beat the entirety of Jelly no Puzzle without a guide, then you do not deserve to be posting on /v/
>>736846696All really good puzzle gamers are hyper dweebs with two left thumbs and if the game requires even like 12 year old dexterity they'll get flustered and not like it, so the better the game the worse the puzzles and vice-versa.
>>736846882https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5f7ff8hJoo
I want to make a game that forces you to use folders and read analog clockit would filter every single tide pod munching broccoli head
>>736829215>>736840020Why are zoomers so tech illiterate
>>736840315Nobody taught me basic skills because they're really easy to figure out.
>>736840281>>736840780NO IT'S THE ZOOMERS FAULTUS MILLENNIALS AND OUR FUNKOS ARE SUPERBASED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME ZOOMERMAN
I just figured out the method to solving this puzzle yesterday.I still don't get the Rocket hideout puzzle in Goldenrod.
>>736829215Never and I just drop the game if i cant figure it out on my own, no matter how much I want to play it further, and I never look up how the game ends on youtube and dont ever read about it if it pops up on /v/. There are a couple of games that i really liked, but never got to know how they ended, because i got stuck at some point. Its a little dumb, I guess, but thats just my code and I like standing by it.
>>736845889my brain often solves the puzzle subconsciously after I put the game down and I'm driving to work or doing the dishes or some random activity where I'm not even actively giving a shit about Baba. Hell it's happened when I put it down for a while like you have and I'm locked in playing a completely different game from a completely different genre.it's fucking weird
>>736852345I'm not going to spoil anything for you, but can you list some of the games you've dropped like this?
>>736852402There arent that many, because im stubborn enough, in most cases i grind it down. Its mostly older point and click advrnture games. Catherine also is in the list, just somehow got hardstuck, Tormented Souls 2 of the most recent ones.
>>736851362Honestly, I've got a classmate who got a Mac for the first the recently, and navigating that thing is awful. We tried to set up nice folders to organize files but it seems to randomly save some downloads to different folders, which are surprisingly hard to navigate to anyway. There's some giant running list of documents in the corner that she's just been using instead now. I know I've had similar issues with Microsoft and its OneDrive or whatever before too.
>>736829215pokemon is hard...
>>736851084So basically: No, no it really isn't.
>>736840020>Kid not knowing how to use a tool he's never interacted with beforeBoomers love pointing and laughing at this, while they use phones and computers every day of their lives and never figure them out
>>736852120DON'T DO IT
>>736839203Depends on the game's length. If it takes more than like 6-8 hours to complete, I'm looking up a guide if it feels like the type of game to hide a bunch of important stuff, because I don't want to dedicate that much lifespan to a game.
>>736842347>>736853739I was just told to keep trying until I figured it out, and I was in the first year or two of middle school.
>>736850854Uh oh, a fucking loser.
>>736846696NYT Pips is a good way to burn half an hour in the morning.
>>736829215Zoomers are such a retarded fucking generation. No wonder everything's currently fucked.
>>736846696I wanna Lockpick
>>736854982>No wonder everything's currently fucked.No, that's jews.
>>736854484You are the NTR-loving cuck
>>736852667no it does not "save some downloads to different folders", you are just retarded. It's not that different from Windows.t. switched to Mac a few years ago
>>736844773>>736842303>>736839942The problem is not everyone is spiritually brown and expect that if you buy both in a "sale" you'd expect it to be cheaper, not the same price as if you just bought them separately.
>>736855796It's a math problem so you should not introduce factors that aren't mentioned in the text if you want to solve it.
>>736855872Go fuck yourself Layton
>>736856002Now now, such language is unbecoming of a gentleman such as yourself. Think it over and try again.
>>736851362They learned to use the internet off of smartphones, they don't know how to interact with actual computers.
look at it on the bright side: the bar is so low
>>736840020>dad can you teach me how to fit a car tyre?>son what do you mean? when i was your age i knew how to do thatthe son remains untaught
>>736851362Zoomers living on shitholes like India, China, and Brazil know about file operation. Maybe because pre-2010 smartphones were expensive on these countries and computers weren't.
>>736844891Stop projecting so much
>>736846696professor layton
>>736829215Anyone who has ever touched a sokoban should know this technique. And when you know this, that puzzle crumbles.
>>736829896You Google "<Game name> missable" before you ever start up the game. I refuse to start a game without doing that. Unless the game intends for you to replay it and pushes for NG+ runs I'm not doing that to get one item I missed. I just played Hell Is Us and without a guide a good third of the content was missable and it's not a game that wants you replaying it at all.
>>736858823What's sokoban
>>736859052block pushing puzzles
>>736859052A very commonly remade box-pushing game.
>>736844563I'm 43 and this is exactly how I approach puzzles and always have. I can't stand them in games and will immediately cheat or look it up if possible. No, SHF, I'm not figuring out what the fuck this puzzle box is or what the riddle means, I'm JUST going to look it up instantly and fuck you for shitting the game up with it.I have absolutely no idea how people can visualize sokoban moves like that without doing them first. I can see that I can move a rock up or a rock to the left, but I can't visualize what the setup would look like after those scenarios or what moves I could make after that.>inb4 apple in headI can picture a rainbow apple spinning counterclockwise upside down while rotating in random constantly changing directions, I just can't do puzzles. Sliding block ones are literal Hell for me, I just move shit randomly until it eventually solves itself.>>736840020I can't shit on this one either since I know how to use manual ones from being taught as a kid but I got an electric can opener recently and had to watch Youtube guides to figure it out.>>736858823What technique? Your image doesn't teach anything.
>>736859052Not much sokoban you.
>>736829215AI > guides
>>736859231>What technique?Do you have selective blindness for arrows?
>>736857807Not only is that the greatest lie they ever say, they also earnestly believe it through the power of selective memory. They're the literal example of that autism lunch basket test>Dad I need your ID to file some paperwork, where is it>Sh'in the wallet, at its place>...And your wallet is?>Are you fucking retarded how do you not know where I leave my wallet at
>>736859298He doesn't understand that the middle one's arrow comes from after the left and right because he can't visualize that state. Because he is baiting you
>>736859298No retard, what fucking technique? The closest arrow to the player is one moving left that is impossible to make without moving the one directly above him first. If you intended to convey that first step, illustrate that.
>>736855483All I know is I watched her download one file and find her downloads folder with it there, and then downloading another file didn't show it there. Either way the obtuse file navigation is something I'd associate with kids having difficulty with the same thing these days.
>>736859382>durr everything is baitI'm so tired of this shithole, same with the snarky visualize comment. If you are teaching someone something, do not skip steps and assume they are obvious. Absolutely NOTHING can be assumed to be obvious when teaching.
>>736859398This is either bait or autism. Nobody said you do the arrows in order of proximity to the player. If you can't perform a move, maybe you do that part second? Just a thought.
>>736859637If you are teaching a technique, you cover every single last step no matter how obvious it is. If I'm teaching someone how to do something in Photoshop and the first thing I say is "select the Pen tool" without explaining what it is or where to find it, I have failed automatically. It is something where being EXTREMELY pedantic is beneficial.>autismWhere do you think you are?
>>736829896Start small. Imagine how you would feel right now if you didn't have breakfast. A world of epiphanies opens up.
>>736829215>Streamer attempts child's puzzleI just realized how many underage retards there are on the internet, that fucking streamer is a literal child himself. He doesn't even look old enough to get a driving license.
>>736840186'Woke' began as the entry-level to Critical Race Theory, the bogeyman the US has shat itself over for a decade now. It's entirely about problem-solving in a legal context, such as a discrimination case where an employer is accused of discriminating against black female workers, but the defence's argument is that the racial element should be dismissed because they didn't discriminate against black workers and the sex element should be dismissed because they didn't discriminate against women workers.
>>736859773A few months ago I wasted a couple hours of a Sunday morning arguing at length with a drooling idiot over Dark Messiah making erroneous claims about the game itself only for him to eventually reveal (for the sake of mocking me for being old) that he just watched someone play the game on Youtube and was born a year before it came out. A few days ago I got recommended a youtube video essay that I didn't watch made by someone who is 22 years old ranting about how offensive early Newgrounds games were - someone born well after the fact telling me that shit I played when it was new is bad and I shouldn't like it. The entire internet is this way now.
>>736859747just admit you're too stupid to parse a "technique" with 2 or 3 steps. Be angry at yourself, not me.
>>736857807>changing a tire is the same thing as using a common household itemalso the hardest thing about changing a tire is just raising the car with a jack.
>>736860182I could be a complete drooling shit eating retard that can't even write his own name or comprehend the first thing about that technique and it would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you forgot to highlight the first step.
>>736860037>It's entirely about problem-solvingmaking up random shit to suit your worldview is not problem solving. saying that race is a social construct and entirely made up is not problem solving, it's slapping a bandaid on broken pipe and patting yourself on the back for being such an amazing engineer.
>>736840020i've got like 3 can openers that all work in completely different ways
>>736860037Nice pilpul.
>>736829215no. I just mashed my head against the wall.there's that one puzzle in Legend of Dragoon where invisible platforms get hit from beneath to reveal where to step, but I didn't realize so I just bruteforced the solution
>>736860356I didn't forget. I trusted the reader's intelligence. Be ashamed that my trust was misplaced in you.
>>736844891>Mutt's Law
>>736860815>I trusted the reader's intelligenceVery very VERY bad idea when teaching anything.
>>736860824But enough about the jews,
>>736860859I'm fine with filtering out knuckle-dragging mouth breathing retards. Sub 80 IQ "people" like you are lost causes.
>>736860946Then why in the hell are you trying to teach them?
>>736829778>>736858865just stop caring, fomo is bad for yougames feel like a chore when you do some checklistif devs made some cryptic then I just won't see it, not my problem, should have made it easier to find if you wanted me to appreciate it
>>736861238>just stop caringNope. I want to 100% games. Ever since I was a kid 100%ing games is what I have liked to do and I feel a sense of completion having done it. It's why I hate missables and can't ignore their existence. I went to NG+3 on Elden Ring just so I could have a trimmed copy of armor and then the normal armor itself.
>>736846696baba
>>736829215I had to look up the maze puzzle in Aquarius, and I still believe it's shitty, there was no indication that you need to do to anything out of the norm, and I believe there should have been a slight hint somewhere. Am I casual?
>>736861291>Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4>I went to NG+3 on Elden Ring just so I could have a trimmed copy of armorImagine being such a pathetic namefag that you think anyone cares about your digital doll collection. You’ve turned a hobby into a literal unpaid internship for a Japanese foot fetishist. It’s not "completionism," it’s a clinical symptom of having zero control over your real life. The fact that you need a tripcode to broadcast your "achievements" on an anonymous board tells us exactly how much of a non-entity you are. Put the controller down and go outside; the sun won't give you a missable trophy, and neither will we. NGMI.
>>736861059I wasn't. As you've perfectly demonstrated, my lessons weren't chewed up enough for baby birds like them/you.
>>736829215Jesus Christ no wonder pokemon games are just hallways and brain dead battles now.
>>736861471>I wasn't>my lessonshmm
>>736861543Keep reading the part where I explained it wasn't for people quite as dumb as you. You can read a full sentence. Can't you? Champ?
just imagine
>>736861943Then why was it directed towards me?
>>736842347>Why would he know how to use a can opener if he never had to and nobody taught him toThe design is self explanatory. Kid lacks intuition.
>>736859231hylic post
>>736861970oh dear... anon thinks there's only 2 people on 4chan, him and "the other guy"I'm surprised you can complete captcha
>>736859052sokoban nutz
>>736829215he solves it in the beginning of the video before it just cuts off
>>736830201>when you start to recognise which directions are optional and always go that way first so you dont miss stuff.Worst thing in a game is an autosave right after a door that you cant go back through.
>>736833623>the merchant hands me back 12 matchsticks
>>736862091I own a type of can opener that takes me a minute of figuring out before I can use it, which is why I keep it in the back of my drawer and have an older model I know how to use immediately instead.
>>736854457do you usually keep trying for 50 seconds only?
>>736834009Where is that on the wiki?
>>736861943Imagine being so socially maladapted that you think failing to explain a literal child’s puzzle is a flex on other people’s IQ. You didn’t "trust the reader’s intelligence," you just lack the basic communication skills to articulate a simple sequence of events. You’re only seething this hard because you tried to larp as a mentor and ended up looking like a pedant who can't even label a diagram correctly. The fact that you’re still here, four posts deep, trying to "win" an argument about instructions for a 40 year old box-pushing game proves you have the temperament of a toddler. Real intelligence is being able to simplify a concept, not being so retarded you leave out the start of the solution and then crying when people call you out on it. Take the L and go back to your coloring books, cham
>>736830871I beat this when I was a 8ish, and a zoomerThis isn't an issue of zoomers, it's an issue of retards
>>736862962lolYou're so off base here it's crazy. I didn't think I was smart BECAUSE I know a simple sokoban solution. That's not even why I'm dunking on that retarded anon (probably you). I'm dunking on him/you for not being able to mentally sort an image with only 3 steps.
>>736862673no. what does that have to do with figuring out how to use a can opener before becoming a sophomore in highschool?
>>736839184>>camera is 300 more than the case>ok that means the case is 10>case = 10>camera = 300 + 10 = 310>set = 310 + 10 = 320anon...
>>736840020
>fail to raise child>ridicule child to receive social media pointswhy are xoomers like this?
>>736829215I cheated on "The World's Most Difficult Puzzle" in Lufia 2.
>>736865337this is a pretty torturous thing to do to a 9 year old
>>736852345>>736852402 i got hardstuck 3 times over 10 in talos principle. pretty far in the game, in some tower with rewind puzzle always dropped it.
>>736865337There's teaching a kid, and then there's whatever this mess is. It's OK to SHOW them by doing. Holy shit.
Why do americans have those giant machines with levers and shit to open cans when literally all you need is thisThey are small, durable, easy to store and actually intuitive on how to use. I learned how to use them by myself and I've personally watched 3 other people learn it by just trying.
>>736840020I think it's less any sort of political issue and more just a modern design issue. A lot of things are designed to be very self-labeled and automatic. I'm barely a zoomer (At one of the exact years people argue is or isn't the border) so I'm just old enough to have grown up in like the very last fringes of most things still having an intuition requirement to use. That plus natural curiosity means I do actually try to experiment with things to figure out how they work. Most people I've seen my age do similar. This kid probably has never had to do any sort of experimenting or intuiting, and due to how fragile a lot of automated systems are doing either of those things just break the fuckin thing and you learn nothing.
>>736866072Superior design
>>736829215why are there big poopballs everywhere lol
>>736866072levers give mechanical advantage so you don't get bean wrist
>>736866072>>736866193because its easier to turn the knob and have leverage from gears than it is to manually rip that sharpened metal wedge through other metal
>>736829215Not everyone is well-versed in sokoban puzzles.
>>736866193>Needless tribalismPoint still stands: Why use a large, complicated and far more expensive machine when simple cheap twisted piece of metal suffices
>what do you mean you can't do <household diy task>>can you build a computer or figure out why your internet isn't working?>that's different i don't understand technology
>>736862680They don't make games with stupid amounts of missables any more, any old game with a ton of them already has an autistic 100% guide.
>>736866280>sharpenedIt's not sharpened, idiot, nice way to out yourself
>>736866280Anon, my 4-year-old niece can use those openers without issue. If there is a discernible difference to you, you might want to get checked for muscle wasting disease.
>>736866280Anon I used to open cans when I was 5 and I was a nerdy thin kid with barely any meat on my bones
>>736865436It has like 50 fucking steps, it's hard enough with a guide.
>>736840020My parents tried to pull this shit on me with a can opener once and refused to show me how to use it. I think I just ended up smashing it open by banging on the top with the handle of a knife and then I purposely made a mess so they wouldn't insult me like that again.
>>736868762based zoomerjack
>>736865529>>736865994this is just a twitterfag doing creative writing assignments for likes
>>736833623>/v/ is retarded as usualThe answer is $95. The case is $5 and the camera is $305 because the difference between 5 and 305 is 300.
>>736872592>this was deletedwhy
