So this is the power of AI game development. https://store.steampowered.com/app/4547950/Dude_The_Dark_Agent/>6 months
>>736833831Should have used more ai
every time they try to their justify ai use, it comes off as so much cope.
>>736833831>AI did everything.>But really developers were very important to this game.Cool. Now why should I pay for this game? I can create my own AI slop for free.
>>736833831>took 6 months to produce thisI wonder what they were doing for the other 5 months and 29 days?
stop fucking using chat gpt for art assets, it's fucking awful, use gemini
I like how they had to add a basic shadow under the tree sprite so they look like they're floating in mid air.
>>736834079lol
>>736834003>FPS counter in top center of the screen>much more important info like health, ammo, score etc shoved to the leftHe must have asked AI to design the UI too
>>736834237imagine running this shit at less than 60fps
This is so bad it almost feels like an anti-ai redditor just prompted a game in 10 minutes and threw it up. Almost.But i know it is in fact a pajeet or some other third world esl "in my country" ass motherfucker
>>736834003I don't understan the luddite whinings. This looks good to me, AI is the future chud
>>736833831>2.4k games released on steam per monththe worst part is that these probably make money somehow
>>736836335I don't believe people actually bought these
>>736834003jfc lmaoeven some shit like a basic-ass game dev book or udemy course's sample project would blow that shit tout of the water
>>736836335>>736836427Don't you have to pay 100 USD just to list your game on Steam? What's the grift here?
>>736833831>6 months of your time to make absolute garbage and get 0 saleshope it was worth it bud lmao
>>736833831jesus christ just say, chatgpt for art, claude for code. why write a cope novel like that, no one gives a shit.
>>736833989Cool, game release when? Would try your game anon. But i wont buy if its above 30 bucks.
It's a shame gabe dick rides AI instead of banning all the retards using it to slopify his store
>>736833920The worst part about this cope is that it was written with GPT. At the very least if you're going to defend it, write in a way that doesn't reek of GPT.
>>736836704i guess he's hoping one of his games becomes a viral hit setting him up for life in his 3rd world country.
>>736838254Steam is already an ocean of piss, and that's by design.The whole idea is that everyone can try, but only good or well marketed shit will actually sell.
>>736836335it's kinda wild watching exactly what games come out each day on steam, there's a lot of shovelware that's so bad it'll make you appreciate those games that get rated 5-6/10
I asked chatgpt to generate an image of the coolest looking video game of all timebehold
>Dude The Dark Agent, klasik 90'lar FPS ruhunu modern özelliklerle buluşturan 2.5D aksiyon oyunu. Raycasting motoruyla işlenen yoğun orman haritalarında, düşman askerleri avla, antik heykelleri parçala ve her köşede seni bekleyen tehlikelere karşı hayatta kal.
>>736834003if this is a shitpost it's a good one. if this is a cash grab it's a bad one
>>736838461These people are not trying.
>game no one ever heard of or will buy uses AIoh no!
>>736833831>open link>its some esl third worlderEven disregarding the use of ai they are almost always tasteless fucks who cant tell their game looks like absolute dogshit from a single glanceWhat causes this
>>736838492Shit like this makes me reconsider ever making an indie game. It's got to be impossible to get noticed in a sea of trash.
>>736840789I've never had any interest in being a game dev but if I had to be an indie right now I'd probably just do game jams non-stop until something catches on and then build it up from thereThe guys who spend 2-10 years making a game solo despite not knowing if anyone has any interest in the shit they're making are nuts imo
>>736833831>turksTruly the roaches of humanity.
>>736840789It's just shovelware. If you're making trash of course it will get lost among the other trash. But good, high effort games will have players even if it takes time to get noticed.
>>736834003Okay surely this developer is developmentally challenged. If so, this isn't really a mark on AI technology itself. This is merely a fringe case.
>>736840789>It's got to be impossible to get noticed in a sea of trash.Its not impossible, it is unlikely to have a viral hit or a easy time thanks to the sea of trash though.The real joke is you have to consistently release games and just build up fans if you want to make a career out of indie dev.
>>736834003>that mismatched artstyleAI can't fix shit taste
>>736843571>if it were good, it's AI>if it's AI (slop), it's the dev's fault>merely a fringe casehahahah holy cope. nope, this is exactly the power of AI
>>736833831>we gave these AIs some of the tasks we would have done ourselvesi dont even hate AI, but who are they fooling? yeah sure, you wouldve done all the art yourselves, and the only reason you didnt was because of time
>>736840740>What causes thisLow IQ
>>736843571>this developer is developmentally challengedthats why he's using ai
>>736840789That's why you gotta make a development blog to win people over before the game releases
>>736836335>Enemy TerritoryHey wait a minute
>look at system reqs>Processor: İntel Core 2 DuoI'm not sure why but this is really fucking funny to me.
>We used multiple tools that save a lot of time but wasted a lot of time and effort anywaysWhat does that say about the developerMind you I don't care about games that use some AI, Claude has helped me quite a bit for sure. But if you can't use it to save you time, effort, even money, you're stupid and why would I feed you.
Why are you seething over a obvious russian AI gen slop game? The fact AI is capable of letting these subhuman retards push anything this quality out is telling of how much it can help actual developers.
>>736834003a clown PoE streamer vibe coded something like this in one stream
>>736845313AI is a tool for the 3rd world to drown the internet in noise, always has been
>>736843162yep this is the way, many popular indie games have had their start like this, like baba is you for example
>>736834003so this is the power of ai...
>>736836335>>736838492current paid games are worse than freeware we had 20-30 years ago
>>736833831>words words words words words wordsi shan't be reading thisdiscarded
>>736833831I don't know what language that is but it looks disgusting.
>entire industry of scammers hoping to bait or bribe a bunch of streamers to make their game viralGayben wins again
>>736834003people should stop trying to sell their high school assignments
>couldn't find a third player for the trailerAt that point it's just sad
>>736843571>This is merely a fringe case.every vibecoded project is like thisand they can't ask AI to fix its bugs without breaking more shit so every issue goes unresolved
>>736845313So when are the good AI games by actual developers coming out among the wave of 2,000 slop scams a day
>>736840237This is just doom eternal dlc>Chuggeth increases
>>736840789I think if you make a genuinely interesting game and put yourself out there then it will get noticed.Too many people think they have something special when they really don't though.
>>736845729>cyber stuff and neon lights instead of gore everywhereIt got potential
>>736840740>What causes thisIt only costs 100 dollars to put the game on steam. If 1000 people buy the game out of sheer curiosity or just for the achievement hunting, you got 5000 dollars. It's a x50 increase in profit.
>>736845727In the next couple years AI will be integrated into the gamedev process and you won't even know a game has AI because it will use traditionally produced assets and just use AI for the spaghetti code backendPure AI games will always reek of slop though obviously
>>736834003This looks like a standard stock asset store generated game kek
>>736834079KEK
>>736836335This only works when AIslop (Claude, Codex, Gemini) is subsidized at current token rates when it's basically just costing the AI providers for every request. It just won't work once the VC money dried off (around the time when OpenAI / Anthropic going to IPO).Maybe you could try going with open source models like Gemma 4 or Qwen but lets be honest, you need bigger compute to fit those models and for it to actually be useful. If you're just a vibe coder (aka you have no idea how or what to code) the only thing you could do is "Here bug, fix this" until you hit your machine's token limit and you hit a roadblock. At that point it's just faster to learn to code yourself.Also most of these things made as much money as a typical pirated asset flip games. OpenAI/Anthropic is just subsidizing scams lol.
>>736836704there are literally insane people who buy everything released on steam, "game collectors"
>>736840237This is just PSO2.
>>736843571I've used AI generated code here and there for my current project but most of the code is mine. If I ask it to fix a bug it usually knows how to do it
>>736840237>modern technology western style scycrapers mixed with weeb theme and magic>enemies go from mythical being like dragon to mechs and golems>you play as white straight human male fighter with energy swordq>looks like typical story driven RPG played from 3rd person of viewhonestly the only thing this nonexisten game lacks so it gets /v approval as GOTY is a half naked fairy companion or big breasted anime girlchatgpt is right.
>>736840237Now do funnest game of all time
>>736833831Well, /v/, don't you agree?
>>736847650But if a game's bad but fun then it's not actually bad.
>>736847650i agree bad games can be fun but i feel like im wasting my time if i play a shittily made game. i need that sweet quadruple a experience enema'd into my anus
>>736845505The freeware was made by people who wanted to makesThe AI Slop is made by people who want to make money.
>>736833831Nice, I'll report this shit right now
>>736848191>Games>The freeware was made by people who want to make gamesNo more phone posting for me, I'm sorry /V/
>>736833831What happened to the SAR meme? How come every time I see AI trash posted on 4chan it comes from Europeans?>inb4 asshurt europoors claim turkey isn't in europeStop coping, Muhammad
https://www.instagram.com/ismail_ozel_games/They are really busy slopping the Internet. Fucking midwits with "make more shit" button
>>736833831This sounds a lot like the bullshit that Hegseth babbled about the Strait of Hormuz>the strait if open for transit, if Iran doesn't keep it closed
>>736833831I tried to use Claude once for some compiler error with compute shaders.He had no fucking clue.
>>736848327I'm certain this guy spends more money on publishing games on steam than he makes from them
>>736834003slop can enhance your baseline, not do magic. if you can't verify the code on your own, bind loose ends and provide good architectural ideas, your ceiling will be much lower. "computer generate gta 6" isn't a thing.
>>736836335>>736836704There is a small subset of nicknamed "collectors" on steam that just buy everything but even then banking on those guys won't even break you even if you have to pay to host regularly. Likely they asked their social circle to get someone to buy the game instead.
One of the arguments I've heard is that AI is good because it allows you to make things "faster." But like, at a certain point... why are you going that fast? Let's say you do slop out some mediocre product at 10x the rate. Who's going to play/experience it? You're just generating noise into the ether.
>>736849478Because volume matters more than you think. Imagine this: a GTA personalized for each individual user. No clunky modpacks. No DLCs. Just ask Grok to generate you a GTA set in Tokyo, or New Delhi, or New York. You don't have to wait 10 years -- just 10 minutes. It's not noise -- it's music made just for you.
>>736849478>You're just generating noise into the ether."people" who never created anything always think that they will make masterpieces by default. They never tried, never failed, never looked into flaws if their own craft. They just roll the slop machine, get the literal shit in return and too busy to claim it as their own creation to see how bad it is. Unhinged normies larping as the the creatives are the literal cancer on the body of the humanity.
>>736836335>all hit all her?
>>736833831
>>736833892I hope they do use more jeet AI>steam get flooded with trash again>just like greenlight 2.0>users and real devs bitch at steam support>which is also ai>after 2-3 years some intern at volvo gets off their latte break and decides to add a ai black list option to the store fiter>jeets and 3rdies commit soduku as their sloppy shit gets removed People forget that greenlight was absolute dogshit and full of crypto miners, malware and asset flips until it all got banned. Even to this day faggot sub humans upload keyloggers and crypto miners as mods and games on steam. They get banned eventually but thousands of retards download them and get scammed
Everybody thinks AI is going to take away all the programming jobs.On reality it's just going to make it more viable for 2 (white) programmers to run a small niche company, creating a product that in the past would require 8 (white) programmers.There will just be many more, more specialised and experimental things
>>736833831What I find interesting is that the about this game section is clearly a GPT 4o text. So they either used the API directly (doubtful), or they let 4o write it sometime before february, before 4o was retired. This thing looks more like the typical ministry of culture grant scams. They took the money and duct-taped something in an afternoon.
>>736840789I unironically believe that marketing is not as important for an indie. Put a demo to a fest. What you need to do is make a good game. That's it. A good game will get traction eventually. I don't think there are secret gems, great games that didn't sell within their niche. 80 games releasing on Steam every day means nothing when none of them are your competition.
>>736850602>What I find interesting is that the about this game section is clearly a GPT 4o textIf they don't know how to code, optimize, create assets, etc. why do you think they’d know how to write in English?If they hadn't used ChatGPT to write it for them, you'd see something like this: "used ai to make game better faster, game good i promise, ai make good assets pretty woman with big bobs and vagane"
>>736849478There are things that are low priority or genuinely slow and uninteresting, like writing SQL. There's nothing hard or interesting about writing out a bunch of SQL queries but sometimes that's the bottleneck.The example I hear from programmers who are actually really good at what they do like linus torvalds is that they might have an idea for a component or some shit that would take some time to design, code, test and implement, and they could do it without AI but they would rather not spend the time on it themselves because they're rather work on something else that they wouldn't trust AI to do which.
>>736834003SAAR THIS GAME IS FUTURE
>>736833831It looks hilariously bad
>>736834003>hp and armor separated by score and ammoEven shitty Unity student projects do it better
Honestly even if I used AI i'd just put a bogus reason like "The entire game was generated from a one line prompt running a local model on a pentium 4"
>>736834003ok this is too funny
>Motion controls are the future of vidya>VR is the future of vidya>Streaming games is the future of vidya>Crypto is the future of vidya>AI is the future of vidyaI'm looking forward to downloading a singleplayer game developed by humans and playing it with a mouse and keyboard or controller on my monitor in 2040
>>736852105Anon, AI has been in video games for a long while.
>>736852105I was told you aren't allowed to compare AI to any of those even though it's the same techbro retards looking to get rich quick shilling all of them. You are permitted to compare it to horses and cars though.
>>736852105You forgot about NFTs and the block chain
>>736836427It doesn't say anyone bought them.Do you also believe prices on unsold eBay items reflect their actual value?>>736836704There's no grift, in general. Just failures. Lots of developers hoping their games will sell but they don't.>>736846962>>736849357If there were ever people who buy every game on Steam, I doubt they still do. Nobody can keep up with the amount of crap released every day. There are people who buy too many games, but everything? Come on now.
>>736852105Where is the cute girls fps idea some anon posted?I remember a killstreak bonus would be calling your oniichan to piggyback carry you to battle.
>>736840789I made an erotic RPG Maker game amidst a sea of other erotic games, and it got enough attention to earn me the US minimum wage every month for several years. It wasn't noticed for its quality, but for the sheer absurdity of the dialogue, which seemed like a shitpost but also something serious at the same time, like a believable universe where everything is absurd. So I'd say it's possible to get noticed if you put something of your own into the game.You need to understand what makes you and your games unique and build on that.
>>736833831>Dude The Dark AgentHilarious name, I chuckled.
>>736843435this is wishful thinking
>>736845867>>736851209also wishful thinking
>>736833831Its made by a fucking brown what do you want?
>>736854096wishful thinking is believing success is random, so you don't have to own up to your own failures
>>736847650"good" bad games at least fucking tried.
>>736854280Richfags always make the same mistake and think they succeeded because they produce so much good shit, then you look at the 99% that didn't make it and see a ton of better quality work. I would go so far as to say it's cope, you might have made a good product but you also got really lucky
>>736854350>then you look at the 99% that didn't make it and see a ton of better quality workI've never experienced this. Maybe what you believe to be 'better quality' is actually garbage.
>>736854410He's a crab trying to justify not doing anything and trying to drag down others with him>why try if it'll fail anyway?
>>736854280success IS random>but muh hard worksurvivorship bias. you're ignoring the mountains of people who put hard work and never got noticed
>>736854562I never said anything about hard work. If you want to talk about talent you're born with, then yeah it is random.
Have turks made ANY good video games?? DANTE MUST DIE MODE: NO MOUNT & BLADE
>>736833831>AI cover artThis is a terrible idea. If the first thing a see of a game is a AI shit cover I'm going to assume the entire thing is low effort AI trash. I'm going to judge your game by the cover just like i do with all those ''hentai puzzle'' AI slop that is clogging the nintendo eshop.
>>736854096I have never once seen a single game on steam that looked like a banger but had low amount of reviews for some reason. The amount of reviews always roughly matches the game.
>>736854664Mou-Well fuck
>>736848217>/V/
What is the legitimate problem with using AI for coding assistance? There was a high chance I was already going to go on reddit, youtube, or some other resource to copy the code and try to figure out how to get it to work.
>>736833831>spent 6 months with AI>to make something that could be done over a weekend in a game jam
>>736849706>he had to use gippity to give (You)'s Fuck off faggot but thanks for costing Clammy Sam Altman another penny for that response
doesnt dougdoug generate shit like this in like 2 hours with his shitty ais?what were those 6 months for, free token refreshes?
>>736833831>it took 6 months to make a game that looks like it took 1 month.sasuga AI
>>736855275if you don't understand your own code there's no hope you'll be able to maintain it.yes a lot of lazy devs will copypaste off stackoverflow, but the exact same problem exists: you don't know your own codebase.
>>736849790>First creation has to be the masterpiece, magnum opusI've always seen this kind of dipshit mentality among wannabe creators. Like, their first game has to be this frigging, magnum opus, best of the best or it's going to be treated as a failure. Especially getting more common with AIfags where they just have the AI amplify the dunning-kruger effects. These dipshit, if it's their first game, it will suck. Guaranteed 95% of the time it will fucking suck. It's their first rodeo at this kind of thing. Of course it will most likely suck! Whether they use AI or not. Though using AI they'd probably get the bare minimum running without the need to struggle so now you're going to doubly suck at progressing further since you never learnt to struggle in the first place. Yeah I agree with you. People who aren't creatives larping as creatives with AIslop is just right there next to scammers larping with AI.
>>736855275You said it yourself, because without AI you'd be looking into it and learning how to do it, you'd understand what you were writing, how to fix it and how to optimize better down the line.When you're using AI, you're never just "asking for assistance", you just want it to code for you, and you won't be half-assed to check for quirks or problems down the line so long as it "works".
>>736855721>slow and has a hard time learningIs that what we call retarded nowadays?
>>736855275You can use it as an instant dictionary or coding repository for things you more likely already know of, but don't want to waste time searching or researching it again. It's good for assisting in learning, which tbf is what LLMs are best used for.
>>736855275It's okay if you know what you're doing. Vibe coders rarely do.
>>736855721>I HAVE AUTISM>BUT PLEASE SPEND MONEY ON ME I DESERVE IT OKAYY??No. Fuck you. What makes you special? There's 1000 other first time devs that I don't have to spend money on that I can bash. What makes you special that no one should bash you? In fact people should be bashing you even harder for even thinking you deserve special treatment.
>>736855845Always love it when faggots larping as engineers realized why people actually went to college to get their degrees. Morons.
>>736855845>saasSlop as a service?
>>736855721>I'm a retard so that excuses my pile of dogshit that *I* didn't even make, my various AI agents didAny idiot can learn how to use RPGmaker or something else that's completely entry level. He needs to get a grip.
>>736855721AI now means you have to sift through "games" "made" by literal special ed retards. Whoever unleashed this cancer on humanity is going to hell.
>>736856026software as a service but generally yes
>>736856026maybe he meant saars
>>736856026Redundant term
>>736846773You already said this 4 years ago, jeet. The ai bubble is popping, tick tock.
>>736845727e33 won goty you know
>>736856316kek
>>736856494>The ai bubble is popping, tick tock.In two weeks?
>>736855275Because the people who do it makes games that look like this >>736834003 The best AI games right now are unironically porn games just using AI art with a very basic game engine
>>736855275I feel like random google snippets have done more to help then searching hours on forums for niche situations of things I want to code.
>>736833831Look I know we all care about the quality of games from major AAA companies and developers but I think you guys are being too harsh on the lowly newb dev. Don't pick the buds before they sprout. I may not believe huge companies when they claim AI was only used for X (like Battlefield and how those weapon skins made by AI were still in the game) but in this context do you genuinely think this dev would have made something better? If not then why are you complaining?
>>736833831>look at the actual game>looks like some random shitty flash game from Newgrounds
>>736856641>OpenAI cancelled Sora>ChatGPT now has lower rate limits for their frontier models>Anthropic had already rate limited their $200 Claude subscription>Anthropic's agent accudebtakky leaked their own Claude Code source maps>Anthropic's Mythos model is too scary they won't let anyone use it to verify if it's actually scary.>Google rate limiting Nano Banana>X censoring and only allowing Grok Imagine for subscribers>1/4th of datacenters are not being builtThere's gonna be something new happening in the next 2 weeks
>>736838492Keep in mind major outlets like Kotaku and IGN will automatically group a game in a score range based on their size or budget because they think a short or simple indie game's value will never match that of a AAA title no matter how polished, replayable, or well made.
>>736834003>I wonder what they were doing for the other 5 months and 29 days?ketamine
>>736851209>don't think there are secret gems, great games that didn't sell within their nicheRocket: Robot on Wheels
>>736857005>ChatGPT/Anthropic/Xbtfo by the competition (chinks) when it comes to LLMs and video generation, local image generation > everything elsepic related>Googletoo big to fall
>>736855275I used AI for one little pre-entrance-exam test because I was tired at the time and didn't want to figure it out, but I still read through it and re-wrote most of it, and on the exam even despite reading the code like 10 times beforehand, it was the only section where I lost any points.I'm still slightly butthurt about it to this day, but it gave me a hefty amount of confidence at least for me that whatever I "learned" using AI would not stick with me.Maybe a skill issue, maybe I would've fucked it up anyway even if I did it myself from googling and writing from scratch, but something about that experience just put a fucking siren alarm about using AI for actual code for me.I've still used it for throwaway things, but I never would use it for a personal project outside as a google search replacement.
>>736838147But you'll buy it for $29.99? Promise?
>>736857413Two weeks more and AI will fall back down being these niche tools that may or may not be used, just as it is supposed to be.
>>736857240I am talking about Steam, not a video game from 1999 at the whim of its publisher fighting for a shelf spot at the local store.
>>736855845this is fucking hilarious
>>736855721>>736855882>>736856207>>736856253I've tried the find the game on steam but I think it might have been delisted, it was some weird 1st person game, released in early December 2025 the screen shot is from the 9th
>>736857453Thing is as much as people would like to think that AI 'helped' them with learning, it doesn't really replace the act of thinking or struggling to come to the conclusion or to come to an answer. What it does is it just feeds you answer, but doesn't train your brain to wire up your neurons and come up with the answer yourself. It's like what's wrong with looking at the cheat sheet at the back of your textbook since you will eventually come to the same answer but no, you actually do have to struggle to come to the answer.Use it for research or searching things up, but once you started offloading your own thoughts to it (like asking it to prepare for a plan, prepare a step by step method) you've pretty much not going to learn much after that. I'd use it for some chinese to english manuals translation because I dont give a fuck about learning chinese and I just want a manual up and running so I can do other actual shit that needs my brain power for. Just remember that using AI is best for things that are not valuable for you to do it yourself.
>>736840389They aren't trying even without AI, there'd just be a less of them.
>>736834003>game takes place entirely on a plane like Wolfenstein 3D>implement looking up and down
I barely know how to make stack so I always ask AI if the stuff I'm about to program would work. Does that count as vicecoding?
>>736855731NtaI am looking into it with AI. AI isn't just telling me how to do it, it will also write a paragraph or two explaining the nuance and application of the code or how the syntax works. As a student learning Linux I will often ask AI to write a line or two and see either if simple commands can be used that I don't grasp applications of or if another command I've never heard of before suffices even better. I won't just copy code I understand less then the rest of my code and I do sufficient research of the recommendation to not just verify it's not hallucinating but also to see if it fits for my current use case (because your context isn't 100% transfered from the prompt you write whether the output gen still works or not). To me it's the difference between reading an article that 95% of won't help versus Ctrl+F'ing for a string of text for the solution.
>>736858660>As a student learning Linux I will often ask AI to write a line or two and see either if simple commands can be used that I don't grasp applications of or if another command I've never heard of before suffices even better.AI has been a god send for troubleshooting linux problems. Especially when they're mostly bullshit.
>>7368552751 trillion hours in paint to hopefully explain the difference, I've done both and there's benefits and drawbacks.This is assuming you have a brain and want to actually learn the shit you're doing and not just going on autopilot. If you do that you will eventually realize AI is holding you back at one point, but it takes some time.
>>736833831>>736834003This has to be an elaborate falseflag. No one is retarded enough to make a shitty game worse than the average flash game and pay to release it on Steam.
>>736859134this exists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMGZRdObVUalso, achievement farm.
>>736859134>No one is retarded enough to make a shitty game worse than the average flash game and pay to release it on Steam.
>>736859134>No one is retarded enough to make a shitty game worse than the average flash game and pay to release it on Steam.You underestimate how stupid and desperate for money the average third-worlder is.
>>736859134Go browse steam by new releases for 10 minutes and then come back to us.
>>736858920Thank you for the graph anon.
>>736859134But enough about Edmund's games.
>>736861909Stay seething, Tommy.
Even the store description was AI generated.
>>736862069But he's the king.And we're all expected to kiss the ring.
>Surely when the floodgates open for millions of retarded idea guys with no real development skills, I myself will rise above the tide and become the next ConcernedApe.
>>736833920Doesn't need to be justified, thoughnestly.
fucking oof...
>>736866636STAY STRONG Dude_The_Dark_AgentIANDS ! WE ARE HAVING A BLASTS
>>736850053they would just stop reporting it
>>736866636Blast bros... I can't hold the line any longer...
DUDE
>>736847650A fun game isn't bad.
>>736836335None of these have ever made their deposit back, it's some 3rd world sub-human who thinks he'll make it some day if he just keeps grinding
Why did Valve discontinue Steam Greenlight?
>>736836704a streamer might play it as a joke
>>736834003This can't even cost money, right? It has to be free.Fuck it, the devs have to pay the players to even play this dogshit, right?
>>736833831>people think they should be able to make money off of AI generated assetsyeah nah this ain't gonna fly
>>736854562A retard can slave away and get nowhere retard, and a retard will never make anything worthwhile, you are a retard
>>736833831xD
>>736868823James Stephanie Sterling
>>736855275There isn't one anon, go hire a team of 10x engineers and they will all use AI
>>736859134Typical third worlder has no internal dialogue or taste, that's why you'll rarely ever see any notable video games come from countries like turkey where this guy is from (except mount and blade)Worst part is that this developer has been on steam for 14 years and owns 400+ games and should therefore have some bare minimum fucking standards, I would rather believe that it's a troll but no, he probably just has room temp IQ
>>736868823I think mainly because the greenlight process itself was being abused by people handing out free keys and other shit for votes. Thus kind of defeating the point, since clearly the floodgates were now open anyway.Also they're currently getting like, actually, $3,000,000 a year just from tards paying the $100 upload fee. Which is not much, but certainly more than keeping the platform nice and clean would net them.
>>736868823MILF porn VNs weren't getting approved fast enough
>>736855275Anyone copypasting code from anywhere is probably doomed to fail anyway, whether it's AI or stackoverflow. But AI is kinda useful as a faster google search, like looking up syntax or summarizing and algorithm.
>>736854562Success is like lottery. Hard work is a ticket to a lottery. With hard work you might achieve success. With laziness you will achieve no success.
>>736838492Checked out one of the videos and damn this was a wake up call, I expected 99% of these games would be sloppa shoverlware and flappy bird clones but it's actually mostly complete, probably decent games that will die forgotten because... no advertising, I guess? E.g. pic related is a full action rpg with a cute girl protag that has like 10 reviews on Steam, shit's depressing.
>>736833831>Make AI slop>Retouch it until it doesnt look like AI slop (Wont take long if you know where to look and your model isnt dogshit)>Ignore the AI warning completely while no one suspects a thingWhy do they always fumble something so damn simple?
>>736873876I'm not going to list any of the give aways but there's tons, there's some that are impossible for the ai slopper to account for.
>>736873013damn but all you faggot gooners said you would buy games if they just had little girls in them wtf?????
>>736873876Because the exact kind of people who will make heavy use of ai slop are lazy fuckers, and putting effort into ai defeats the purpose of using it.
>>736846962No there aren't.
>>736847010that means I should play PSO2. It might be the coolest thing ever.
>>736873013There's just too many games and most of them are extremely similar. It may be a decent game on its own, but it released the same month a hundred more decent games came out. If it isn't unique in some way, why play it specifically and not something that came alongside it or before as games don't disappear.
>>736834003I suspect that in this case they were hindering the AI instead of the other way around...
>>736873013https://store.steampowered.com/app/1748110/Town_of_Zoz/that actually looks really high-effort
>>736874910Oh the protag is actually a boy, never mind then no wonder it flopped
>>736873876It only takes 1 nigger calling you out for the whole mob to show up, and then you're scrutinized and held under a magnifying glass forever even if you manage to disprove them (you won't).A total dogshit looking Postal game was recently cancelled because of this. The artist even faked a speedpaint, but of course it was picked apart. No amount of effort can adequately hide your sin. I've even seen real artists, whose styles predate generative AI, accused of using it and publicly raped. So much cum. Everywhere.
>>736833831>have a single person or very small indie team>person or team has a vision for a good game they want to make>the team has the capability to code and make everything the game would need to function without the use of AI>team does not have the time or money to sustain a 2+ year development process of doing the manual work >use AI under careful oversight and monitoring, as they say "in stages to speed up the process">turn a 2+ year job into 6 months>also fully disclose all aspects of this to potential consumersI hate AI as much as the next guy, but why is this use of it actually bad?Isn't this the way AI SHOULD be used in games?
>>736873876Because like a woman, you don't even need to use AI to be accused of something you didn't do.
>>736873013>>736874910actually not bad for an unknown indie game, dev made about 100 bucks here
>>736874910>Those choppy animationsno thanks
>>736834079this post deserves more replies
>>736845349While playing PoE?
>>736836335>the worst part is that these probably make money somehowNo, the vast majority make no money.
>>736840789Not true, roughly half of /agdg/ games at least make enough for a few months' rent, and there are 1 in 20ish odds of being able to live off your game indefinitely
>>736852940Link to game?
>>736864050why the huge drop from 2024 to 2025?
>>736833989Lol you won’t do shit
>>736876818i will now install ComfyUI
>>736875093Wtf almost wishlisted.
>>736858920This is just wrong. Someone who was a good coder before AI is now going to go from a 10x engineer to a 50x engineer if they have AI assistance. The graph only holds true for people who were never and will never be even decent coders. If anyone thinks ANY company right now worth a damn isn't using AI assisted coding then they are absolutely brain dead and probably NEET. I am not talking about art by the way. You can scrutinize the art all you want, you will never be able to prove a game company used AI code.
>>736876818damn that's fucking hot
>>736873013>>736874910The only thing of quality about this are the art assets. I have no idea what the game is even about despite watching both trailers.
>>736859134Everyone's trying to be the next flappy bird.The flappy bird guy actually had some principles, though.
If i made a game with RPG maker right now I think i could be a moderate success considering budget/time ratio
>>736834003>wonder what they were doing for the other 5 months and 29 days?https://youtu.be/PKQEG9IZpc8?t=173
>>736877256>Someone who was a good coder before AI is now going to go from a 10x engineer to a 50x engineer if they have AI assistance.lolit's cute that people unironically think like this, as if the bottle neck for programmers is not being able to type fast enough
>>736834003The shadows are breathtaking
>>736855845>AI is no longest just an assistant, it's also the builderjesus christ he even writes like AI does with the "its not just X, but its also Y"
>>736836598>even some shit like a basic-ass game dev book or udemy course's sample project would blow that shit tout of the waterDude not even professional game developers read game dev books anymore. the "UX" designers are just random black women. It's just us White nerds who know anything about anything anymore. And we don't want to use AI because it's icky and no one will give us money to make a game, so it's just driving Uber until death.
>>736834003???
>>736879297Digital art has improved over the years desuLook at some older shit and you have to wonder what are standards were back in the day.
>>736877008That picture was taken mid-2025
AI voices for indie games is fine
>>736873876for my slopgame I just used AI to generate cute chibis that I traced over
>>736876272>dev made about 100 bucks hereSounds good in a void, then you consider how long it takes to make a serious video game and understand why most indie devs go MIA after 1-2 releases or limit themselves to jam slop.
>>736840789With the ability to vibe code now it's a lot easier. I think the art and the writing needs to be legit, but you can get away with free assets temporarily. I would just focus on a simple idea and the mechanics. Focus on making a game loop that is very fun. You would still need a team to make something more monumental, but it's definitely possible to make smaller games by yourself.
>>736846773ai to help with coding just makes sense. that leaves more time to focus on the parts that shouldn't be ai. that being said i think ai assets are good for prototyping, as placeholders. faster coding time and tweaking mechanics, then just focus on everything. the dev or devs have to care. can't just use ai for the whole thing.
>>736834003That's pretty much how an indie game would look without the use of AI and made in a year though.
>>736840237its that far cry 3 dlc
>>736855275code assistance within the confines of a game engine would work really well. especially one that fully understands the game engine code and everything.
>>736840237Nice chink souls
>>736833831>>736834003I don't understand why the pro-AI crowd try to appease the anti-AI crowd and go against their own reasons for turning to AI in the first place. Why insist "but it still took us a lot of time and effort!" when the point of using AI is to reduce the time and effort it takes? I'm not against people speeding up their workflows. I just think it's weird that pro-AI people buy into their opposition's talking points that more energy expended = more quality, when they could just argue their game still has value even if it only took a few hours, days or a week.
>>736882327Because why the fuck would you pay a full indie game price for something that took a week to make?
>>736855715The problem with creating games is that it's a combination of different things. It's not easily comparable to playing a sport or drawing a picture. Even something like training to run fast for track or a marathon is more straightforward. It's easier to see the growth will those things. It's harder to see with a game. It's much easier to do the separate parts that constitute a game than it is to make the whole thing.
>>736834003Jacking off
>>736882375There's lots of Steam games that are just slightly expanded 48 hour Game Jam projects. I don't mind that if the game is fun.
>>736882327When someone uses the "it took a lot of time and effort so therefore I deserve" they are admitting to being retarded communists who shouldn't have any power to make decisions about anythingit takes like 105 IQ to even begin to understand how fucking stupid "I did work therefore I deserve" is; retarded people literally cannot understand direct consequences, let alone 2nd order onward effects of this kind of childish thinking.
>>736855985i got an associates in comp sci but i later switched my degree. i would not be confident enough to vibe code a project and release it quickly. that shit would be sitting in development and testing for a while before i gained the confidence to release it publicly. until i made sure it worked well and i understood it.
>>736840237Game Title: Eclipse of the Eternal DragonGenre: Action-Adventure / Hack-and-Slash / Souls-like RPG with open-world exploration elements.Setting:The game takes place in the cyber-fantasy world of Neon Aether, a once-thriving futuristic metropolis that has been merged with ancient mythic realms after a cataclysmic event known as "The Riftfall." Towering skyscrapers fused with East-Asian-inspired temple architecture glow with neon and holographic energy, while the sky is dominated by a massive celestial body (a shattered moon or invading planet) and a colossal, fiery cosmic dragon that seems both destroyer and guardian.Protagonist:You play as Kael Voss, the "Last Blade of the Veil" — a lone warrior in sleek, high-tech samurai-style armor with a flowing crimson cape. He wields a plasma-edged energy katana that can switch between blue lightning mode (for speed and precision) and crimson flame mode (for heavy damage and crowd control). His backstory involves being the sole survivor of an elite order sworn to keep the balance between technology and ancient primal forces.
>>736834003>detailed tree sprite>then 3d treesprite>then weird cartoon flash tier guys>flash game fp hands, that are too smallthis guy is mentally ill. Simple as. Not even bad taste would account for this. This guy is an aspie or something
>>736833831It has to be a shitpost right?
>>736833831I don't think there's anything wrong with using AI to glue a game together if the end product is good. The problem is everything about that game is vulgar, the SFX, the UI, the gamplay. If that was all hand coded i'd be even more disgusted desu because what a fuckin retarded waste of time and life.
>>736882840Over the past several years, the dude has paid hundreds of dollars to publish a bunch of the most worthless-looking stock asset/programmer art/AI slop test projects, most with no reviews or a handful of negative ones. Definitely something off. If you wanna learn or tinker with it as a hobby, cool, but publishing these on Steam really requires that particular lack of awareness you'll find in "special" people.
>>736882840I'm convinced that these guys making AI games are just using AI as like a slot machine and thinking 'if I let AI make enough games then one of them will succeed and I'll be rich', making it good
>>736833831>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4547950/Dude_The_Dark_Agent/I love it how the left wing are the ones who are against AI and that the more they say its not happening, its actually happening lol. Its like all the idiots from the late 80s or early 90s saying how computers and the internet were just a fad and that hey its not going to replace animation, or jobs, and that things will go back together again, don't even worry about it. LOL
>>736834003>>736836335It gets better.
>>736834003I can't make any sense of anything.
>>736833831while retards are whinging or justifying AI use, some genius rat ex-Pat living in Vietnam is quietly raking in millions by simply refusing to talk about it and staying out of the spotlightfor every one of these controversies, there are a thousand ai-filled products selling ~500 copies silently only retards resist the future, luddites have never won even once in history. gen alpha will hate you for trying to cuck them out of using AI to make things easier, and you guys are no different than the oldheads who told you calculators would make you stupid and made you take tests using mental math.
>>736887753>they are selling 500 copieslol keep telling yourself that, bro.
>>736887875the fuck are you even talking about? pipe down, retard.
Remember this?
>>736888089Willy's Chocolate Experience was pvure kinography
>>736886886> some retard makes an indie game with AI that'll be lucky to sell 15 copies + all the forum discussions are just saying it looks like shit> SEE AI IS THE FUTUREreally?
>>736888089I think this was the turning point for me. I was in two minds about AI up to a point, but this was the exact moment I realised it was only ever really going to benefit subhumans who couldn't give the slightest shit about the products they put out trying to cut corners or scam people. People that really want to create for the love of it were never just sitting on their hands waiting for a algorithm to give them something vaguely similar to what they had in mind.
>>736889045Thankfully people have never been scammed before AI was a thing.
>>736889045Yeah, I had some fun messing with ai previously but the more I looked at what was made by myself and others, you rapidly not only recognize its limitations, but you notice how people get into this really boring spiral. People kept saying stuff like "if I just had the ability, I could make whatever I want." But then, after being given the ability, people just rapidfire shit out the same soulless things over and over.
>>736838147Why would they release it? We might live in a future where an AI can make an entirely custom bespoke game tailored to your tastes with little to no input from the prompter.
>>736887753>luddities have never wonbro your NFTs? how are those doing?
>>736889443>might>could
>>736847650>games don't have to be good to be good
>>736889045I wish we could skip straight to the star trek holodecks, this early phase kind of sucks.
>>736833831>speed up our business processesit's always cute how AI-fags unironic think and talk like they're some huge wave upward stepping into the big world, thinking they have somekinda wonder tool that has no flaws. It's always entertaining watching them burn and fall.
>>736833920Man they always have to talk like the biggest faggots ever. Or maybe I should say chatgpt makes them write like the biggest faggots ever
>>736833920
>>736889139>thing nobody said or even remotely impliedwow
When did you realize the hate for artists was because many wished to be artists themselves but were too lazy?
I miss when AI had soul
>>736874910
>>736889543the fuck? idk but my bitcoin is up bigly from $250
>>736891747I love this new meta from indie devs of shoehorning in some blatant coombait to generate more sales
>>736834040>expecting AIfags to have a brainLOL
>>736891834This more your style anon?
>>736891834clearly didnt shoehorn enough because it didnt sell
>>736834003>jeets are going to swarm steam just like they did on open source github projectsi hate the antichrist
>>736891976just imagine how much less it would've sold if they hadn't added the character in
>>736891834sex sells lil zoomzoom
>>736892010the same amount? it was half a second in the trailer that no-one watched
AI short film just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rzl7nUdEs4Could (You) make this?
>>736891834>newEver heard of Tomb Raider?
>>736892405I meant random npcs/merchants that don't have much to do with the actual game
>>736890093I hate people like this. Because he's right to an extent.But let's not pretend there's nearly as much effort put into creating prompts as there is in creating art.
>>736847650the fuck kinda defense is that?
>>736892750Why does "effort" matter?
>>736855845
>>736891987I wonder if Steam will ever consider increasing their listing fee to disincentivize shovelware. Maybe instead of a flat $100, something like $100 + 100x the game's price.
>>736855275>What is the legitimate problem with using AI for coding assistanceIf you have an isolated function that returns a value then AI is great for that. But when people start using it as a crutch for code architecture at that point you are in the realm of the program being unstainable. It really depends on how many changes you need to after writing the code with AI.
>>736892338If AI means more hard sci-fi media then I'm all for it
>>736893106your mind can atrophy like any other muscle
>>736893106When we make art it's not just the piece of art itself that matters, the human and his emotions in its creation also do. When someone spends hours, days, or years on something it reads like care or expertise. We value what we think the effort represents.
>>736893106Because I'm not giving people money for nothing moron?
>>736833831/thread.
>>736893853>Muh fancy autocorrectThis hasn't been true for a while. AI isn't thinking, but it has its own logic.
>>736893772Why? Seems supersitiousssIf the end product is shit I don't care how much effort you've put in it
>>736833831I love how the developers go out of their way to make sure people understand that they did "SOME LEVEL" of work, so instead of the game taking 12-18 months, it only took six months. But if you ask the developers why they couldn't do everything themselves I'm sure they'd have a myriad of excuses. "Oh, lack of budget. We didn't have the manpower. We didn't know how to do some of those things. We couldn't find an artist. We don't know how to code."
What happens when regular game dev tools are riddled with AI? Used to be artists could "just" use Photoshop, then every Photoshop tool was AI-infused so now you used AI even if you didn't want to
>>736893808True. I'm also not paying commissions if I can gen it myself
>>736893725Humanity's cognitive capacity has improved with technology
>>736836335Third worlders should be range banned from every AI service. That would instantly improve things for everyone that matters.
>>736894243AI use is correlated with mental degradation however.
I'm so depressed
>>736894110Exactly. AI killed my job so why the fuck would I pay anyone else who uses AI? Go fucking drive Uber like me retard.
6 months for a game that a skilled game developer could have made in one day in a game jam.
whats the point of being a hater? shitting on some retard trying to put out his first ai slop game?spend more time harassing the faggots raking in millions like overwatch or tigole's new survival slop game
>>736894450A human with access to all tech + AI outcompetes a human with access to all tech - AI, so even if true, why does that matter?
>>736894431Why did you draw the line at AI? Banning 3rd worlders from the internet would have a far greater impact
>>736894505You also have to stop paying people whose jobs could also be replaced by AI but refuse to, otherwise nothing will get better
>>736855721>DURR I'M A FUCKING RETARD HURR GIB MUNI GIB MUNI
>>736873876>Make AI slop>"Bro this looks like AI slop">"No it isn't"Why wouldn't this work?
>>736834003This looks shittier than Redneck Rampage
>>736894834Since I have no money anymore I will proceed to do exactly that as I lie in a ditch dying.
>>736894496same
>>736834003Anyone mocking this is literally proving the dev right
>>736894450>Frank Herbert was cooking Except he wasn't and the complete opposite of reality is true: primitive social structures with low levels of technological automation are correlated with slavery and coercion, advanced ones, with printing presses, assembly lines, computers and now AI, aren't.
>>736895138Because people aren't retarded and can tell what AI looks like.
>>736895796Yeah that's why I have to drive Uber or die.
>>736833831>one day there will be a completely AI generated game be lucky enough to turn a profit solely because a handful of sales will outdo the $0 development costs + $100 Steam fee
>make AI slop>have to put in the same amount of time and effort "touching up" the AI to make it as good as when not using itai is a scam on every level
>>736836335Probably money laundering.
>>736896426You "have" to drive a car around for a few hours a day or you go on benefits funded by massive technologically guaranteed surplus productivity, Mbutu Mbutu from the Ooga Booga tribe and his entire bloodline for the rest of history has to dig up yams with his bare hands 16 hours a day or he'll be sacrificed to the Blood Demon God King that rules his tribe
AI bros, we eating good, step aside boomers, programming/graphics artists aren't needed anymore.
>>736897572>or you go on benefits funded by massive technologically guaranteed surplus productivityReally, which country is this and how do I move there? I want free money too.
>>736833831KWABOTY
>>736855431Look closer. He wrote a post that reads like AIslop to jebait you. He doesn't actually know how to use em-dashes.
>>736833831No-coders who don't actually understand how their code works or computers in general legitimately believe they can have AI belt out some code and it'll be perfect and flawless.Using AI for art is fine though.
>>736898485This, fuck AI trannies lmfao.
>AI is good because it speeds up the development pricess! It allowed me to make this classic 90's style FPS game in only 6 months!>Looks significantly worse than Wolfenstein 3D, which was made in less months without AI.Bravo
>>736898873Shut the fuck up chud they're neurodivergent.
>>736898873>process*
>>736898485>Using AI for art is fine though.Nah.
>>736898984Yah tranny shitter.
>trannyNot even worth a (you)
>>736893106Because art is a communication of ideas, not opaque algorithmic outputs.
