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What's your favorite RTS unit? For me it's Gold Colossus
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>>736844001
units in this game feel very unresponsive and not satisfying to micro
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>>736844001
I like WC3 footmen, even if they absolutely suck ass past the first 15 minutes into any game you play. I also like spamming Ork boys and Eldar Guardians because I think they look cool. Sadly what I think looks cool and what is actually effective don't always line up.
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>>736844130
Age of Empires style baby
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>>736844001
He cheeki, he breeki, he stealth field for sneaky.
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I like captain halo from halo wars
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>>736844001
Aeon T1 tank, the Aurora

>>736844242
>suck ass past the first 15 minutes
more like past the first 5 mins
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>>736844242
>Sadly what I think looks cool and what is actually effective don't always line up.
Hey George
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>>736844264
Forge is down.
Forge is back up.
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>>736844001
Rangers from Company of Heroes.
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>The instrument of doom
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>>736844254
Death to Cybran commies

(Bless you for liking SupCom)
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>>736844001
do you think a RTS Might & Magic series would have sold well?
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Dragon Knights from Warlords Battlecry 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozga9fLKGQc
Affordable, reliable, strong cavalry unit, with the typical elven high combat skill, high speed and high psychological resistance. And of course, fire resistance. Also, the only melee cavalry unit in the game that can attack fyling units.
These guys can be the backbone of your whatever army and you won't regret it.
Unless your opponent has lots of piercing/crushing damage, depending on the patch
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>>736844534
As long as you aren't seraphim, we're cool.
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>>736844534
U!
E!
F!

U!
E!
F!
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>>736844001
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>>736844001
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>>736844829
Hydralisks fired spikes from their backs
How the fuck did these guys work?
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>>736844865
Reeeaaaally long arms.
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>>736844503
>We want Mammoth tanks
>We have Mammoth tanks at home.
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Siege Elephant. Good at only 2 things: destroying buildings and sniping artillery. That's all I need to let the rest of my army run rampant.

Plus it's the only artillery in the game that doesn't need pack and unpack to move and shoot.

Age of Mythology's Gastraphetes are a close second. Again, not for what they do on their own but for the support they provide the army.
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>>736844847
Living incubator for zerg eggs.
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>>736844001
I got the rockets!
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>>736844001
King Raptor
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>>736844001
Ragnarov my beloved
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>>736844503
RA2 had so many cool units.
Can't wait for D.O.R.F.
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>>736844001
This boi right here, best 0-to-hero journey I've seen in any RTS upon upgrading step by step.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebP5Yh-_tVk
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>>736845073
Game?
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Why did they make the elites look like this for Wars?
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>>736844001
the chinese hackers from cnc generals
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>>736845486
sins of a solar empire rebellion
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>>736844130
Go micro yourself off a bridge, how about that?
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>right click enemy capital ship
>little girl screams "DEATH TO THE HEATHENS!"
Should have just accepted the light in to your heart.
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>>736844001
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I miss battle realms
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>>736845795
oh man, serpent was my favourite.
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>>736845795
Wolf Clan is literally busted

>Berserker with Shale armour or Werewolf
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>>736844001
Mission 31, isn't it? That was a slog on Titan.
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>>736844001
Chronocommandos and Yuri clones were my favorite
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>>736845718
if unit control in ur game feels unsatisfying im not playing ur game
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>>736845412
Mean, Green and Unseen
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>>736844001
childhood is spamming longbowmen and using them as siege unit, cause their range isbigger than the castle and CPU is too dumb to counter it.

adulthood is microing plum archers like a nerd in PvP and then losing cause you forgot to check your economy state.
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>>736847312
Nobody here but us trees.
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>>736845061
Based
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>>736844001
>What's your favorite RTS unit?
Hover MLRS.
Tiberian Sun isn't even my favourite C&C game, but something about the design and in-game utility of the Hover MLRS scratches my itch and ticks all my boxes.
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>>736847427
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>>736844001
sc1 siege tank
or i guess v3 rocket or dreadnaught form ra2, i like missiles
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>>736847746
It's the sweetest torpedo launch. That's why in Kane's Wrath this unit is no longer so satisfying
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>>736844001
what's the best voice line of any RTS unit?
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>>736844254
Strategy my boy. Oh yes.
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>>736844768
Let's forge an alliance, shall we?
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>>736847909
I think it also helps that the Hover MLRS were introduced in a cool (heh) snowy mission, the Hammerhead Base mission. Very memorable mission and ends with a 10/10 FMV CG cinematic.
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>>736844001
DoW1's Basilisk.
Then again any arty unit with actual range will do.
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By no means the best unit, but I just like them
Especially how they mess with the regular cavalry counters
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>>736848274
I miss the days when GW tabletop games had templates, guess weapons, and scatter dice. I know it slowed down tryhard compfag gaming, and I don't care.
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>>736848441
HH still has this
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>>736845795
For me? It's the Warlock.
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>>736848274
Just look at these beauties
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>>736844684
I'd like to think so
Warlords Battlecry basically outshine the original series at this point, not many remember that it even is a spin-off of a turn based strategy
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>>736848441
30k, TOW, and Necromunda still use templates and also scatter dice accordingly, but the former is also deviating further from pre-8th Edition design with a damage stat in 3.0 as the designers don't know what the fuck they're doing.
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>>736847924
British heavy tank from COH2: "We're a tank, we drive over and through things"
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>>736845795
what do you mean miss? they just released a new patch like yesterday
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Chrono Legionnaire from Red Alert 2. Definitely not the most competitive unit, but very unique mechanically and very entertaining to play with. Also brilliant for trolling friends in casual games
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For me it's Tanya from Red Alert 2.
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>>736844001
CoH3 Goliath.
Imagine an invisible fuck huge proximity mine that can delete multiple infantry units or leave vehicles dead in the water.

Now put wheels on it.
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>>736848987
>DON'T SHOOT ANYTHING SMALLER THAN A VOLKSWAGEN
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Commandament?
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>>736844865
They uncoil their tail and stretch out their midriff to maximum length, then shoot their back spikes upwards in the same way. (Hydralisks themselves are actually already quite long and slender, their large headcrown just hides a lot of that in the top-down view the Starcraft games employ.)
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>>736844001
It's a tie between Laser crocs from Age of Mythology and the clockwork knights from Rise of Legends
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>>736845795
I loved kabuki warriors
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>>736848849
Also, forgot to mention that newer editions of 40k ironically have shitloads of rerolls going on while some units may still have shitloads of unique weapons to resolve, the two together especially take fucking ages as I can attest to tonight after dealing with a BT Repulsor Executioner.
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>>736844001
Starcraft 1 Carriers.
Good old Mass Carriers = Instant Win
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>>736848274
That "actual range" was damn near the entire map for most skirmish maps. The Basilisk was the last word on artillery duels in DoW.
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>>736844001
Probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jSngib2kM&t=2502s
(And yes; it counts - SRW SC2 is actually from a side series to the franchise, which has core RTS gameplay. The series includes the traditional SRW 1-vs-1 cinematic engagements as area-effect special attacks on a timer. They're basically your Ion Cannon, Iron Curtain, etc.)
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>>736851236
(oh great- time codes are broken in youtube embeds. what joy their shit-ass new embed player is...)
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>>736847746
Based. I love Tits and Disruptors.
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It takes a lot for a civ that lacks these bad boys to get on my radar.
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>>736851436
I like them a bit more in Kane's Wrath, the TibSun titans are slow as balls and you kind of have to time your pushes based on how long it takes the titans to get to the front lines.
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>>736844001
>be Necromancer
>rush to enemy base asap
>summon these guys out of your ass
>kill packs of enemies with your rings of ice while skelebros demolish every tower and building
heh, nothin personnel
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>*Kchk*
>TELL THE MEN THE CAVALRY'S ARRIVED
>*Kchk*
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>>736844001
Always liked carriers
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>>736851036
My defiler-backed hydra army wants a word with you
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>no WarCraft III
Shame
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>>736852089
WC3 isn't very fun outside the campaign and custom games
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You need a suicide squad?
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>>736852072
I know that mass Carriers is hardly the best strategy in the world, but to ten-year-old me it was the coolest thing around. I don't play RTS for the PvP anyway.
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My favorite RTS unit is tesla coils.
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>>736852147
10 year old anyone who played RTS games liked massing the biggest units to then steam roll the enemy. Sometimes it was just fun watching the carnage.
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>>736848274
I prefer
ELEVEN BARRELS OF HELL
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>>736852147
To be fair, I still do it when I replay the protoss campaigns
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>>736849835
RE3 is the worse game but it has a hotter tanya.
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>>736852287
>RE3 is the worse game but it has a hotter tanya.
JillxTanya?
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>>736844001
Scrin devastator warship. Especially once you got the storm-cloud upgrade
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>>736852360
>Scrin air game

You and I are enemies now.
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>>736852360
>mfw he forgot to build AA
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>>736851516
I need to reinstall Warlords Battlecry 2 I've never finished that game as a kid.
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>WE NEED A NEW DRIVER, THIS ONE IS DEAD
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>>736844001
I raise you
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>>736852467
>Lo, though the time is dark, my faith shines!

https://youtu.be/ilSDgI1JONw?si=yBZUFcyhQ3ld8niZ
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>>736852629
Dark Crusade was so cool
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The ARM peewee from Total Annihilation
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>>736852460
It was actually the one I was talking about
I enjoyed its campaign a lot more than WB3's - some maps can get brutal on highest difficulty if the session lasts for too long
Some artifacts sets are utterly broken, like Vampiric set on melee Hero or Elven set on mage Hero
Rerolling to get Orb of Etheria with the stats you need is very time-consuming, though
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Puma, repositioning!
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GLA postal service
Best units came from the Generals and RA2. Top tier looks, top tier voicelines
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https://youtu.be/2nVi9O02WXU
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>>736853473
Generals is a surprisingly very competent post-Westwood entry when considering what came after.
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>>736853473
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>>736853710
The only major disappointment post EA was definitely CnC4. CnC3 was still very good and Kane's Wrath was a great expansion to it. RA3 is a little less good, but still fine and the expansion is fine. CnC4 is such a shitshow that it killed the IP.
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>That's a nice castle you got there, faggot
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>>736852339
RA
RE
I'm sure you understand my mistake
This is what too much time posting on REmake threads does to a person.
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>no canoneer ritualpost
honetly I'm surprised
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>Amass giant gaggle of best available unit
>Attack-move command to the opposite side of the enemy base
And done.
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I like amassing 12 of each type of unit and sending them.
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old reliable in all men of war games
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>>736844001
My favorite unit ever was the upgraded Cybran Support Commander in SupCom vanilla. It had something like 600 hp/s regen and 700 damage/s. It was cumbersome to upgrade them manually but seeing them virtually immune to artillery spam was extremely satisfying.

It then was drastically nerfed in SC:FA.
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>>736844001
I BUILD FOR CHINA
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>>736845058
We’vegottherocketsWe’vegottherocketsWe’vegottherocketsWe’vegottherockets
Fightersarmupfightersarmupfightersarmupfightersarmup
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Would a cannon really flatten in a single shot ~200 men in a 100 meter cone area?
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My favorite is definitely the Nod's drilling APC from Suberium Sun. Just the very presence of these niggas just popping out at any time putting the fear in your enemies tickled me fancy, even if everyone slabbed their shit to prevent that.

>>736844865
I just assume they transformed into a mini-zerg building.
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>>736852134
>Inexplicably well armed
>6man squad with laser guns
Never made sense
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>>736852134
You're going in the clown car with two other squads.
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>>736847924
BEEWLDING DA CHOINESE EMIPIYAH
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>>736844684
Sadly it didn't sell
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>>736856362
This game had potential to be really rad, but was only ok
It also had fuckall to do with M&M outside of having a vague presence of high tech shit (like charred remains of tanks and jets) in the middle of high fantasy
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>>736844684
Any chance for that was dead the instant the non-real-time strategy game was out and successful.
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a unit AND your base
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>>736844865
How does a sunken colony work on a space platform?
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>>736857078
Pretty much only space RTS do this.
I like the idea of a nomad race, and so far only Grey Goo has delivered, which is fucking sad.
>>736857120
It's a japanese hentai tentacle turret, life finds a way
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>>736847989
I get it
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>>736857120
Won't the tentacle just bury through all the metal just like it burrows through the ground? I mean, it can wreck tanks and shit, so why not also through the space platform?
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>>736857163
There was a clan like that in paraworld, all their buildings were mounted on dinosaurs and and could be used in battle
Also the necron monolith in DoW1
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>>736857163
>>736857697
Don't the Mongols in Age of Empires 4 do that?
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>>736858623
They can reposition the buildings, but the buildings aren't units themselves
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ENTER
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>>736858873
There goes the neighborhood!
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>>736858873
Based.
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We got the best shootaz there is!
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Why, it's the handcannoneer of course! They need to be buffed.
truthfully, it's a tie between the handcannoneer and marines in broodwar.
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>>736857163
There was a GFWL title that had a Martian esque walker race with a big walker base. I remember liking it.
The Kuun-lan is a fucking top tier choice, and is probably my answer now that I've seen it.
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You have no idea how this commander got me so many wins by just spamming assault grenadiers
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>>736859751
Universe at War?
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aoe3 cannon physics are so fun, i like every single cannon units in that game
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>>736860164
Yea, thats it. I remember liking it, but never went back to it in my RTS revisits like I do with WC3, SCBW, Homeworld/Cataclysm, Empire at War or Sins of a Solar Empire.
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>>736844001
Cyborg Commando, Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun.
He's one of the game's three legendary units, which you may only own one of at any given time. He's worth an entire fleet of battle mechs on his own despite being barely larger than an ordinary human, able to move incredibly fast, hit unbelievably hard, and skirmish like no other, in addition to being able to regenerate. He goes in, blows shit up, and blitzes away to heal up and do it all again.
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>>736851495
Isn't that usually the deal with siege units?
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>>736860782
Titans aren't really siege units?
I think they outrange the basic laser/vulcan base defenses, but they fill the same niche as the Nod Tick Tank in that they're the main tank-like unit.
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>>736852467
pretty much every ork is my favorite they're all so awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOnpvfBFtY
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>>736859649
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>>736861916
she cute
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>>736861916
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>>736852134
Maybe THIS will slow you down!
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>>736847924
>sudden strike supply truck
Yeah
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>>736844001
Wood needed
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>>736844001
Eat Dirt Commie Pinko!
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>>736863443
the anon who said that the single player campaign for this game and sequel were broken in the remasters is a lying fag.

Also
>Nothin personal the unit
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I don't like Age of Mythology. You're playing and then find out some obscure special unit remotely debuffs your units, or something summons lightning strikes from across the map or some shit. Fuck off. Am I supposed to rote learn every obscure bullshit unit and effect in the game before I can even form a strategy? At least in Age of Empires things generally follow the rules of real life. You can logically infer most of the details.
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>>736844001
Rock Chucker from Empire Earth.
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>>736852202
This but the eifel tower
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bros did this guy even exist? was his only job to go 'EEAUGH' *unit lost*?
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>>736852339
Anon wasn't lying, nujill looks like belladonna without the buckteeth.
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>>736864103
They're like zerglings, you make a bunch of them with a few bigger cyborgs and the enemy either has to mow down the infantry and the cyborgs probably survive the fight or they focus fire the cyborgs and the light infantry swarm them. Relying on just them will get countered hard and fast. Combine your arms.
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>>736864103
Yes and get run over by harvesters/morph into visceroids
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>>736852127
wrong
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>>736853865
>CnC4 is such a shitshow that it killed the IP.
This is a blatant lie. EA wanted to release Generals 2 after CnC 4.
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>>736859460
It sounds like they're popping champagne corks.
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>>736864371
Wasn't the development of Generals 2 a complete shitshow? I swear Bioware was involved at some point for some inexplicable reason.
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>>736864271
in theory sure but is that really how it is
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>>736864371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZC9PzT92-U
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>>736854876
What are they, protestors
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>>736864535
>I swear Bioware was involved at some point for some inexplicable reason.
And they also took the new Dice engine
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>>736864535
>complete shitshow
They let a kike in charge of monetization.
Then let that kike effectively overwrite everyone else when it came to designing game.
The result was so utterly jewed even the fucking EA decided it was way too greedy and wouldn't sell.
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>>736862202
voiceline immediately struck my mind as i read
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I wish they'd release a 64bit remaster of Supcom 2. I loved that game, solid AI to work it, and the ability to shut off land, air or sea so you can have crazy land-only or air-only battles was god tier fun. But the 2gig vram limit was aids and the game crashed all the time whenever i had large battles.
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>>736864740
Just a few road bumps, drive slow
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>I'm legitimately good at resource management and tactical decision-making
>≤40 APM
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>>736859897
I had to quit using assault grenadiers in team games because enemy would always quit after losing 1 squad
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>>736866140
were they chinese opponents perchance
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>not a single mention of KIROV REPORTING
faggots, the lot of you
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¡Santiago!
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>>736867224
My padastros
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love these little bastards like you wouldn't believe
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There was something really cool about gargoyles and the whole demon race overall in Primitive Wars
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>>736867709
They are so horrifically good at destroying buildings.
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I always sucked at RTS, I wish there were more Stronghold likes
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>>736844865
Lurkers only attack once they burrow.
Once burrowed and if you play against Zerg, you better have detector with you or whatever ability to detect burrowed/invisible units because those spikes deal horribly high damage + they hit everything in line. This makes Lurkers insanely strong against hordes of weak units, and in a bottleneck they can unleash utter devastation.
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>>736845795
Look at my muscles!
All of the Sledger's lines have a faint Austrian accent to emulate Arnold.
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>>736845412
DORF has three days left on the kickstarter. If it can hit the next funding goal they'll have an extra Dev on the team. I'm hyped for Co-op campaign, I wish more RTS implemented them, even if they aren't necessarily balanced.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dorf/dorf-oldschool-real-time-strategy-and-base-builder

More unit previews dropping too, they're demoing way more content with the success of the kickstarter : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zflGmOPhkrk
I want to see a preview of that Warband wrecking ball, I want to build a literal wall of them and level entire cities.
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>>736852287
Eva is hotter than either Tanya.
>>736867795
I like them for taking out buildings and also for fucking up Apocalypse tanks since they scale really well.
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Recommend me an RTS. I've sunk 25 hours into AoE2 this last week and I want to see more of the genre
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>>736852089
Us damn sexy!
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>>736868049
Command&Conquer series starting from the beginning
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>>736868049
Metal Fatigue, a long forgotten jewel where you mix and match robots
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>>736868049
StarCraft + Brood War
Red Alert 2
Emperor: Battle for Dune
WarCraft III
Age of Mythology
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>>736845412
ra2 is great but it's kind of comical how much better allied is over soviet
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>>736868049
Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft 1 if you don't mind its limitations, C&C Tib Sun, RA2, C&C Generals and Total Annihilation are all pretty standard recommendations.
I also loved Emperor: Battle For Dune, but it's been really long since I played it so I don't really now how it holds up and I genuinely have no idea how to get it outside of somehow getting a physical copy somewhere or pirating it.
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>>736867795
>good at destroying buildings.
They are good at destroying everything that moves on the ground
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>>736868049
the remaster combo of C&C1 and RA1 is pretty great too
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>>736868573
Tiberian Sun remaster when?
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>>736868408
>I also loved Emperor: Battle For Dune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xOdsI8oK84&list=PLEE2FD4BF340574A1&index=9
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>>736844001
This mother fucker, right here. Mo'fuggin' Cyborg Commando from C&C Tiberian Sun.

>One-shots titans, MLRS, disruptors, artillery
>Can one-shot some buildings
>Can go toe-to-toe with the Mammoth MKII.
>Heals faster in tiberium than your average cyborg
>plasma weapon has crazy range, direct and explosive damage
>gets a second phase after being destroyed once, crawls around as a torso still fucking shit up
>cool voice acting effects

The track "Killing Machine", in my mind, was the official anthem for the Cyborg Commando leading a charge into GDI forces and face-fucking everything in its path.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI50GivuQcc
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>>736867954
>Unlock secret mission
>It's Arkanoid level and you have to destroy the whole city with the giant wrecking ball
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>>736857078
Research Module? This is the bridge. We've got power fluctuations in your area and the hangar bay. Are you running any tests?
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>>736867723
Oh you...
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>>736861916
Women couldn't be janissaries.
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>>736867954
>falling for kickstarter scams
how fucking stupid are you? hey, i got a bridge to sell you, how much money you got? its called the 'kickstarter indie game' bridge, it'll make you alot of money!
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>>736868725
Man, I need to replay it. Really cool game, although not without flaws. I remember harkonnen normal tanks being pitifully weak compared to atreides and especially ordos counterparts.
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>>736854364
You forgot
>sit back and enjoy the fruits of your labor
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>>736868725
I replayed Dune 2 not that long ago through one of the source ports. I put hundreds of hours into Dune 2000 as a teenager. Yet I've never played Emperor, for whatever reason
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>>736869828
on the other hand, darkest dungeon, hollow knight, two divinity games
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>>736869951
Why is this so satisfying? It's completely devoid of strategy AND tactics.
My 9 year old self was right playing with cheats in every game. I just wanted to destroy everything at my own leisure and try to break the game.
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id say the ghost from sc1
he looks cool, can turn invisible, call down nukes and has psi powers
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>>736844001
Monks from Stronghold Crusader. 10 gold each, high hp, walls go wshoooo. Total monk domination. I remember I once played with my friend and spammed hundreds of them, he was in disbelief how all his troops were killed and his elaborate walls disappeared. It was funny
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>>736870663
but does he afraid of anything?
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>>736870353
I think there have been too many kickstarter scams and games that did not live up to what was initially promised that I think investing in one is not worth your time. Especially when a lot of other people have already backed it, so you can wait and see and buy it if/when it comes out and it actually turned out to be good.
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>>736870552
RTS is 50% strategy, and 50% lording over a giant army that lays your enemies to waste. Not cheating gives a much better ration between the two parts, since it underlines that you indeed did earn your overwhelming victory
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>>736870817
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>>736865443
Nah fuck you and fuck this game, halfway through the campaign they literally throw 30x your maximum unit limit of these motherfuckers at you. Unbeatable piece of shit.
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>>736868408
I insalled Starcraft 2. Brb
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>>736867723
I actually got a chuckle
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>>736871936
you're supposed to play starcraft 1 first
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>>736868614
never because they lost the source code (they literally recovered some files in a fucking trash can)
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>>736872256
Man, that's fucking depressing.
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>>736863713
They aren't broken, just missing flying debris for most models in the case of 98 Redux
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>>736872964
Oy vey
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>>736844001
Goonery aside, I really like the concept of a highly-effective support unit that has basically no attacks; just debuffs and utility skills, that is also not a healer.
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>>736872051
Do i have to?
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>>736873425
Starcraft 1 is too much a part of my childhood for me to be able to judge it without bias. It has pathing issues and the 12 unit selection limit definitely is a thing you need to get used to, but I love it to death.
SC2 definitely is easier to play, but SC1 introduces like 80% of the cast and definitely has the superior story.
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>>736868049
>> I want to see more of the genre
Like, ones that are far away from it gameplay-wise?
>Dungeon Keeper 1
>Homeworld (1 or Cataclysm)
>Populous 3
>Warzone 2100
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>20 stable hussar spam
what now
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>>736873425
Honestly, yes.
The story and ambiance is *way* fucking better in 1.
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Gatling camel
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>>736871896
Bro just make anti-air dudes.
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>>736872802
those were restored and improved, if there is one to blame is Ogre3d's retarded bone rigging
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3129993450
BZCC has no issues of that, but then BZCC is better for modding now, god bless the Battlefront 2 engine
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>>736873425
Yes. It's Shitcraft 2 you don't have to play.
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>>736844001
Total war
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>>736848274
Fuck yeah. Something about artillery in games make me so giddy.
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>>736873987
10/10 recs anon.
There is an open source Dungeon Keeper project btw so check that out for playing the original.
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>>736873425
SC1 has better campaign and better balance in spite of being broken as shit, but also has outdated as fuck gameplay, SC2 has a more refined and blissfull gameplay at the cost of fucking over the campaign
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>>736873425
SCII is garbage story-wise. The only redeeming quality it has for its campaigns is that the campaign and mission mechanics are fun.

1st game and Brood War are far better story-wise and atmosphere-wise. Not to mention there are no cartoony aesthetics, Protoss are badass and Zerg don't look like discount Tyranids unlike in 2.
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>>736844001
the Tsar Bomba of mortars.
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>>736848365
Correct answer.
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>>736856362
Because it suffered the same limitation Cossacks (the other series of the studio) had, which they were aware of but didn't bother to fix it.
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>>736848365
It's a cute anime girl, isn't it?
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>>736876892
?
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Why do I hate Age of Empires even though I have never played it? Something about this series simply pushes me off.
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>>736876121
>has outdated as fuck gameplay
filtered
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>>736877327
Try it someday, someone may have a working repack
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>>736877980
>filtered
Fuck you, the gameplay got obsoleted the nanosecond RA2 released
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>>736874253
how does that not spook the animal
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>>736878363
it has gone completely deaf after years of service
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>>736864371
That shit looks mad overdesigned. What's with all the random shit stuck on the tanks? Fuck outta here, glad this shit's dead.
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>>736873425
Only for the story, but the missions themselves aren't anything special.
People mald at Starcraft 2, but it is hands down the best RTS mechanic-wise.
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>>736879110
>but it is hands down the best RTS mechanic-wise
its a snoozefest
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>>736879110
WoL has a great campaign, but i found HotS to be lacking and never picked up Nova or the protons expansions.
Greatest RTS campaign of all time when accounting for everything is Homeworld Cataclysm or Battle for Middle Earth. I forget if 2's is better.
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nothing cooler than a glass cannon stealth tank with delicate stealth tech requiring precise subterfuge to cause absurd damage
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>>736844001
age of empires 3
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>rams your starting capital
>ignores all PD in your fleet
>injects 40 phase missiles right into your armor
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I liked locking down the enemy wizard with brainiacs from Sacrifice.
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For me, it's the humble crusader.
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>>736879590
Maybe try increasing the difficulty.
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>>736844001
The minotaur. Everything else feels so lesser when you have a bunch of minotaurs to kill them.
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Remaster/sequel when Disney?
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"flame cannon, ready to burn!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxzPAywNEs
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>>736873425
yes but if you are a casual and can't handle sc1 you can play the campaign ported to sc2
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>>736877327
Because AoE2 keeps medieval rts players hostage. We won't get another good rts until it dies
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>>736883973
Source?
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>>736884101
Me, I'm John Empires. I asked anon to tell you all that you're not getting another good RTS until my game dies.
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>>736883973
>>736884721
I'm honestly surprised Mircosoft doesn't take a swing at an age of Empires that spans the eras of Colonial, WWI, WWII, and Modern.
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>>736884791
They already have that.
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>>736876121
>outdated as fuck gameplay
Not true. I'm literally replaying the campaigns right now (in Remastered) and it's perfectly fine. All you'd really have to do is allow multi-selection of buildings, better waypoints and rally points for workers, and larger control groups, and I wouldn't have a single issue with it. Honestly, my biggest complaint by far is how the AI uses its abilities. Put a single toe inside the enemy base and fifty thousand science vessels, queens, high templars, and what have you, run to your location to dump all their energy. Fuck the mission where you have to destroy the new Overmind in particular, because playing against combined zerg-terran forces is such a fucking pain because of all the abilities
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>>736886110
Name one good reason to keep 12-unit control groups.
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>>736886156
Even back then it was stupid, but I guess Blizzard wanted people to be able to pick out an injured unit and move it away? I honestly don't know why, but they've publicly said they've had the tech for basically infinite groups since WC2, but always decided against it
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>>736886156
imagine if you could have a stack of 40 mutalisks
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>>736886110
Oh, and make abilities fire once per click, regardless of how many units you have selected. I hate having to cycle through my casters to find one with enough energy
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>>736886156
no F2 A-move
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>>736886226
>but I guess Blizzard wanted people to be able to pick out an injured unit and move it away? I honestly don't know why, but they've publicly said they've had the tech for basically infinite groups since WC2, but always decided against it
It makes sense for WC3 because of the way lower army size but not for SC
anyway CnC turbo mogs blizzards RTS games
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>>736886426
C&C never scratched the same itch for me. The campaigns are less interesting, and they don't have custom games
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>>736886226
Starcraft has always been about the artificial learning experience. Artificial micro is a necessity to hide real micro and real strategy away from their playerbase.
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>>736886565
I've never understood that image. You might as well post a comparison between Rainbow Six and Doom, and go "the player can carry enough weapons to put an APC to shame, how unrealistic". They're different games, that deliver different experiences, and as such have different mechanics
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>>736886773
https://urc.tauniverse.com/tasc.htm
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I love these fuckers so much.
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>>736844001
any longbow unit is my shit. i like to pelt my enemies. I like to pelt them.
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>>736886550
>and they don't have custom games
You havent seen nothing then, CnC modding is so ahead of SC is insane
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>>736886773
Fans of TA and all of its descendants (SupCom, BAR, Zero-K) are the Ninja Gaiden fans of RTS. Do not interact.
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>>736863713
>one of these faggots sits on a high ridge
>enemy keeps microing them to kill any radar/scouts i build
>after i finally find it it just fucking floats away to another spot for me to find

i cannot express enough how much i hate archers
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>>736887187
I meant custom games online, not modding. I'm sure there's some good mods, though I've never played or even heard of any myself
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>>736887274
They deserve the asshole of the RTS units award.
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>>736887227
Got it
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>>736868408
>>736868725
>>736869906
battle for dune is available on myabandonware, its not even pirating, its just free now
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>>736881491
Based tzarfag
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I want more fucking super units, balanced be damned. I don't want my super costly shit dying because of some tier 1 shitters dancing, poking, running around and my super unit can't catch it fast enough. FUCK FUCK FUCK.
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>>736887387
Theres alot of that too
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>>736844748
I think the Seraphim ACU is my favorite unit. I can't imagine playing another faction, though I do try to get a Cybran or UEF T2 engy to make Hives or Kennels. Plus, Cybran navy carries me until I get Sera T3 subs if I'm playing navy.

>>736844768
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>>736844254
>Can literally go invisible and "floating laser" T4s, etc.
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Reapers from Dark Colony The Council Wars, most Human units in it tho
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>>736847924
DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?!
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>>736867724
I need to play this, only learned about it last year despite playing jurassic war when it came out.
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>>736852127
I don’t know why this opinion is so common
Seems like someone got stomped playing melee a few times and gave up
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>>736890503
NTA but the main problem is how overreliant the gameplay is for heroes and how micro heavy everything it is
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>>736882372
NEVER and you flagellate yourself for even suggesting such a thing.
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>>736886773
Amount of weapons doesn't change the way you play. The time to kill for each stays the same. With direct fire physics, it fundamentally changes how the game is played. If you want to believe in objective quality, the more natural and intuitive design is better because realism is what we predict and reward. In this case, more variety:depth is more strategy.
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>>736847924
Wololo.
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>>736890985
That’s what makes it interesting
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>>736860782
Titans were the GDI basic tank unit in Tiberian Sun, they replaced the Predator Tank. Since Tibsun was the futuristic cyber punk game in the series the GDI got even more advanced tech and Nod went full cyborg and lasers, with a dash of alien tech for their air vehicles. Crazy to think that the Scrin were hinted at all the way back in the 90s before we finally see them in CnC3.
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>>736891529
I am honestly glad the walkers were reduced to a subfaction, dont get me wrong the titans and such are good but you cant replace the mammoth tank
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>>736868049
The only thing I haven't seen recommended yet that I consider a must play is Company of Heroes 1
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>>736891998
It's a playable Band of Brothers, because there is no way the campaigns cinematics weren't at least partly inspired by the show. The cinematography for some of the shots are nearly one to one.
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>>736892063
>The game titled COMPANY OF HEROES is heavily inspired by Band of Brothers!
You don't say
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>>736892116
I won't complain about it, the show was good and the game is good. At least when we still had good media to use as referential material.
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>>736844254
if cybran are the good guys
why bad guy shaped
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Nice coastline.
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The Sword Saint in Shogon: Total War was hilarious.
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>>736881491
Baaaaaaased.
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>>736844001
Rohirrim in LoTR BfMe. I love running over my enemies. Especially after they levelled up a bunch in the campaign.
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>>736890503
Firstly,I blame the game being too hero focused. They're too powerful. Second, the unit limit is too small for large scale conflicts, and the game is realistically decided rather quickly as a result.
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>great healing spell
>map control spell
>spell to make creeping faster as well as insane dps increases in fights
Only downside is the ult, but it’s the best support unit in the game.
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Whadya know another anon made this cool webm.
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>>736873275
When i was a kid i hated human armies because these girls kept changing my units into sheep. And i couldnt dispell it because both me and the pc were too slow.
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>>736893390
pure ludo
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>>736873275
also goon
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>>736844001
>Your favourite unit
It's -my- favourite unit now
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>>736893384
this. and its incredibly satisfying to use raiders and kodo beasts to ensnare and devour fleeing units. especially when youre playing against a potato thats never seen that before.
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>>736894078
Night Elves will never recover from the kodocock
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>>736893384
That better be the hero and not the caster unit. The witch doctor was kind of ass as a healer thanks to his one and only
Heal being at the end of the tech tree, and it was tied to a destructible totem. He’s easily the worst if you want healing, in a faction that has the fewest healing options. Orks suffer for having the beefiest units, you get the worst healing and arguably the worst air game too.
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>>736892270
It was a joke about how "I served in a company of heroes" is the last thing the real Dick Winters says at the end of the series.
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These were my favorite things to build even back when I was 8 years old playing this game. I loved doing defense more than than offense so I loved setting up guard towers everywhere.
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>>736845073
HUMAFIRINMAHLAZAR
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>>736844001
I love this fucking guy, there's nothing better as a frontline combatant. I pretty much ditch ghouls entirely and just have a few of these take their place. Throw in a couple necromancers and banshees for support and you just have a wrecking ball.
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what commander in CoH2 is the most zerg-y?
bonus if it's soviets because I really want to try them out
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>>736893384
yet its the most specialized orc unit lmao
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>>736889775
Dark Colony was a gem elevated by the vibe and god-tier intro cutscene

>Establishes the contrast of the factions by having the industrial future Humans being ambushed by recognizable 1950's style Grey aliens with ray guns
>This instantly devolves into a hellish gorefest of realistic warfare as the Greys are pasted and minced by ballistics and Humans are sniped by bolts of laser fire spraying blood from their suits
>Battle escalates as the Greys call in nightmarish biological horrors to counter mechs and artillery
>No music, all you hear is the din of machine guns, explosions, plasma bolts, howls of alien creatures the size of tanks and gunships mixed with grunts screaming in pain
>Humans yelling in panic as it turns to disorganized close quarters slaughter
> THEYRE OVER THE PERIMETER
>POV from a solider as a mech sized monster made of teeth and spikes closes and rips his head off with its mouth
>Grunts getting blown away left and right and a helmet and gasmask with broken bone and bloody meat out the neck rolls to the camera
>Amidst the storm of death roiling around them a grunt is strangling a Grey with one hand and viciously beating it with his gun
>blood leaking from its nose and mouth
>I don’t know if you can understand me, you pasty faced maggot...
>POV from the Grey shows they have insect like segmented vision
>Whatever point he is making is lost as the Grey hears human speech as garbled distortion
>but that’s the way that I see it YOU BUG EYED FUCKER
>Screaming in rage he magdumps into the Greys face point-blank tearing it chunks of viscera
>Slow-mo as the Greys head turns to bloody cavernous jaw
>Fades out on this image as the battle continues on around them no victor shown
>DARK COLONY

It was the most raw intro to an RTS I'd ever seen
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>>736860181
That was so cool.
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>>736845412
nobody here but us trees!
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>>736854979
Peak rts time.
Theres literally no counter to upgraded venom spam too
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>>736889643
>*teleports behind u*
>*unsheathes microwave laser*
Omae wa mou shinderu
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>>736844001
Catapults
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>>736860597
>I smell their fear.
My beloved
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>>736844001
Probably the Awakened from Kane's Wrath. They're exactly the kind of cyborg I find cool.
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>>736852127
campaign and custom games are the whole point of RTS
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>>736899960
I have a friend who is into competitive RTS and whenever I make this statement he flies into an autistic fit.



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