What was the final nail in the coffin for ZZZ?
removing TVkino
The China world update.
>>736845467releasing the game
>>736845467When they kept adding human characters with animal ears in a world where animal people exist
It being gacha
>>736845596Adding it in the first place was the biggest mistake. Nobody actually misses tv mode except for contrarian larpers. >>736845634True, I didn't even mind that much at first but it was a massive mistake that we got stuck there for that long, should have been 4-5 months at most. The biggest issue though, that is not unique to ZZZ but probably every other game in the genre, is that the endgame modes don't utilize the combat correctly. All the modes are on a timer. This means that combat devolves into mindlessly mashing out the optimal rotation to squeeze out as much damage as possible, so you don't actually interact with the opponent much because paying attention to attacks and dodging, etc. is a dps loss that you can't afford. We are at the point where support characters are without fail just press EX special and switch out, in order to facilitate this playstyle. I wonder why they even bother designing and adding elaborate basic attack, etc. animations when you will never see it with those characters since you just switch in press a button and bye. This is what killed the game for me.
>>736845467>nail in the coffinAnd the game is still in the top 20 of gacha revenue every fucking month.No, the game didn't die, and it's not going to die in +5 years.Just accept it, the ZZZ devs made the right choices and won.
>>736845634>>736845995Retards
>>736845596This. It feels so fucking generic without it.
>>736845596fpbp
>>736846310On the chink supremacist reddit chart aka pure fiction.
>>736845467To me it was changing the Hollow Zero FUCKING AGAIN.Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with different modes getting updated, like with Star Rail changing the Divergent Universe regularly.But ZZZ changes things up with absolutely no fanfare and without lore justification, making it blatantly seem that devs are hurriedly responding to player feedback without thinking reason for the change. Which is pretty much what keeps happening with the game.
>>736845467It never fully recovered from 1 year long Chinawank.
>>736846997They had a whole story quest line for lost void though
>>736847061They added in weekly gimmicks pretty recently and randomly, unless I missed that. If there was actual some kind of character dialog about it, then I take my criticism back.
>736847026>the china faction was rasing child sacrifices and it's a bad thing>only 2 patches even focus on "china" characters >"muh wank!"
>>736847104The weekly stuff is still just the same Lost Void, nothing changed in it, they just added that to freshen it up a little.
>>736845634this lol, game went from jap punk to xianzhou 2.0
>>736847196ah yes, the scooby doo, american military, homeless goat and lovecraft writer octopus, and akb48 xianzhou
>>7368454672.0 and 1.4Basically the big shifts toward insane powercreep, the loss of class identity, the poor replacement for TV, the shit story
>powercreep>every new character is consider shit
>>736845467i still find it hilarious the chinks just slap chinese name on a nip idol to cope lmao
>>736847474The name was in the game files back in 1.0, Aria was added in 1.3
>>736845467its very creation
>another /vmg/ drama general thread
>>736845467making taimanin coded characters when taimanin is at the lowest popularity it ever was
>>736847359I need to breed the homeless goat badly
>>736847645>no fishnets>not a full body cover>not kunochi styleYou okay?
>>736845467There is an armpit therefore it cannot be going wrong
>>736845467The HP inflation and the streak of anti miyabi content killed the game. Plus every character since 2.0 is pure gimmick. No matter how shilled I’m not playing stupid gimmicks but that seems to be the direction they have gone with the game so I dropped.
The gimmicks being "burst in stun" and "use attack and ex"
So what the fuck been going on with the story? Look like they're about to make Wise and his sister into their own unit, I think?
>>736847995Not yet, they are going back to being at the hdd for a while because it's getting too dangerous for them
>>736847995They are making up shit as they go, no clear goal to the storyIf they make the siblins playsble theyll need to be free and therefore useless compared to the shiny new meta units so its better if they dont go down that road. The game doesnt need a Aether/Lumine
>>736848092They weren't going to be playable anytime soon and that was known even back in 2.0. Season 2 was just throwing a bone to all the people who complained that the "mcs didn't do anything". Which is funny because they actually did more while being behind the HDD than they did while in hollow.
>>736845467release of the op fox whore
>>736845467not enough thiren women
>>736845467People actually play this?
>>736845467when they censored the game before release and decided to stick with tvslop even though beta testers told them it was shitoh and also severely reducing the freebies and creating more nuhoyoslop character designs instead of the unique ones they advertised pre release>>736845596tvslop literally killed the game on releaseit filtered many paypigsdespite having more effort put into the game, it made less money on launch than fucking star rail
Ye Shungus. China wank was bad but 2.0 was alright initially. Shungus was the turning back point.>Backlash from SEED just dropping with no buildup led them to not wanna "stealth" drop a character again>They panic and quickly rewrite Shungus into the story more and force her to spend a bunch of time with you attached to your hip in 2.4>So rushed the patch drops missing voice acting for some scenes and drasticly undercuts characters that could have been more interesting like Dialyn, Zhao, and Banyue.>Shungus event is literally just a forced ad of PLEASE DATE ME AND BUY MY DRESS! IM YOUR ONLY LOVE INTEREST! MEMEMEMEMEMEME!>She releases and her kit is designed for literal retards. She straight up ignores mechanics and is super bloated.>Design is somehow even more Chinese magical wuxia bullshit then the literal ink mage released in 2.0. Just fills the screen is with cancer.>So annoying she manages to make Vivian look good by comparison.The character designs have been mostly taking a nosedive since 1.7 but Shungus was 100% the final straw. Obol Flop sure didn't help either.
>>736845467>chinawank ark after solid start>bullshit powerscaling from the street level to gods in a year>unironically replacing TV mode by shitty 3 rooms corridors>Jane Doe is so iconic that you can't win with new character design against her
>>736847995here's a TLRD for the story. Spoilers for those who care>Carole Arna (proxies teacher) is highly linked to the Creator (the ubermunch big bad evil and it's still unknown for the reasons of causing the catasthrophe. Right now there a few red herrings of "uuuh I think ur teacher was the bad guy">the MC has now special powers, linked with some eye modification (theoritcally performed by Carole Arna. The Mayor seems to be hiding something big about this. They can basically manipulate ether and are highly resistant to it so they can enter hollows. They join Yunkui summit to learn to manipulate this power.>Non china plot is that there is a very spesial sword and the entire plan is Sarah and the creator baiting them to bring the chosen one by the sword there so the creator can possess them as a vessel, but Ye Shunguan or whatever with MC help masters the blade and kills the "Creator" who in reality was simply a messenger so the creator is still around>The proxies are now basically special envoys of the Mayor, and almost any importante figure already know they are phaeton>The void hunters weapons are somehow important to the creator ultimate plan>The MC hand and eye glow somehow in a weird way in the climax of the plot, it's still unknown what caused this>The angels of delusion pleasure old men for money>Harumasa is still irrelevant
>>736846484The game peaked with Piper, it's impossible for them to release anything that comes close to her.
>>736845995The removal of TV is still the absolute lowest point in the games history
>>736850481>>736845596They removed them because the majority of the player base were too retarded and casual to beat them.
>>736850515It’s really more because of feedback from week one players that would’ve dropped the game anyways
>nangong yuwho thought this was a good idea
>>736845467They should just completely ignore the dumb bugmen telling them to turn the game into Wuwa 2, and just go back to their original plan. Pretty much every major crisis the game had can be traced back to them trying to appease the chinks.
>>736850628This would be almost be acceptable if only the retarded trannylators didn't have the bright idea of peddling the family name as her first name because Yu sounded "too japanese".
>>736845467Making Belle the sister.How the fuck am I supposed to breed with Belle? Incest is disgusting
>>736845467I can't suffer through this nigger slow TV dungeon crawling. It's so shit and boring and low effort. Literally just an excuse to not create 3D content. Fuck this retard game.
>>736850758gay
>>736850628god this name is just awful
>>736850758are you fucking stupid?
>>736850758No one would care about Belle if she wasn't your sister. Worst female MC design in gacha. She would flop if she was a playable character too.
>>736845467The final nail was the very beginning of the game since they created a gacha promoting black culture and it has been flopping since the very launch, because it turns out china doesn't like blacks nor their culture
>>736850449This
>>736851108>filename
>>736850758You test faggot.
>>736851108Just say you're racist, you rightoid scum.It's really getting pathetic, rightoids can't meme.
>>736851139>SEA “”””humor””””
>>736851154didnt you hear the news? hating niggers and muslims is cool now.
I honestly think I hate women, "women" and jews more than I hate niggers
>>736845596>before tv mode removal: omg have to do this mission fuck this is so boring wtf were they thinking, worst thing ever>after tv mode removal: soul is gone, worst decision ever, wtf were they thinking, no point playing anymore
>>736849913Summit is such a shitty faction that not even Ju Fufu saves it and she might as well change her name to Atlas with how hard she's carrying that group.
>>736850890Are Belle and Wise even blood related? Or did they just grow up in same foster care with their teacher?
>>736852172they're probably not even human
>>736852317So were they engineered using the same blood or not? I need to know, for a friend...
