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Gears
>playable mechs
>sold like crap, forgotten
Saga
>playable mechs
>sold like crap, forgotten
Blade 1
>no playable mechs
>sold well, fairly well acclaimed
Blade X
>playable mechs
>sold like crap TWICE
Blade 2
>no playable mechs
>sold gangbusters, beloved
Blade 3
>no playable mechs, henshin instead
>sold well, widely considered disappointing
Hm...
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>>736848398
sex with Homura
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>>736848398
X3 killed the franchise.
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>>736848398
XB2 and its juvenile coom shit killed the franchise.
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>>736848602
>>736849016
>>736849069
I fucking hate this piece of shit website. I swear to god it's physically impossible to actually talk about anything. Have ANY opinion that wasn't force fed to you by an anon or a content creator. Holy shit, do you "people" even like Xeno games? Fuck.
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>tfw no Saga remake ever ever
I'm so fucking tired.
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>>736848602
Impregnating Hikari as Homura rims me
Cumming inside Homura's ass as Hikari sits on my face
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Mecha doesnt sell to normalfags because they cant relate to robots
And it doesnt sell to the average nerd because they dont know how to jack off to it
The best things are for truly discerning taste
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>>736848398
3 had playable mechs, they just felt like shit to use.
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>>736849956
>Mecha doesnt sell to normalfags because they cant relate to robots
Transformers is one of the most profitable IPs on the planet. Those movies still make bank, to the poin that we're still stuck with that twat Bay. And no, the fact the robots are themselves characters shouldn't matter, because regular mechs are still piloted by characters. It's an immaterial difference.
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>>736850204
well yeah, transformers counters normalfag's aversion to mecha by drawing them in with their weird obsession with cars.
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>>736849990
Its insane to me how they removed the dash ability while you're controlling the EVAs.

Xenoblade 4 should focus on playable Super Robots
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>>736850309
>super robots
Excuse me while I vomit. Xeno, for all its fantastical elements, it firmly rooted in the realm of real robots. The franchise basically started as a G Gundam/Eva fanfic for fucks sake.
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>>736850204
>Transformers
they're not mechs
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>>736849759
>trying to pretend that this thread was created with an earnest desire to discuss
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Is the Switch 2 patch for X still bad?
I was going to wait until they've all been patched to play the series but if it'll be that bad should I just start playing them now?
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>>736848398
>Blade X
>>playable mechs
>>sold like crap TWICE
Did it really sell that badly the 2nd time?
Anyway im absolutely burnt out on xeno games after 3, its gonna take a while until i muster the willpower to go through X
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>>736850427
Cope
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>>736850427
>No super robots in Xeno
u wot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIS33279EuQ
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>>736849990
they're more ultramen then giant robots
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>>736848398
>Xenogears Total Sales: Total worldwide sales reached approximately 1.9 million copies by 2003, making it a solid performer.
Why are you lying?
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>>736850710
Dumbass
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>>736852351
Only a million? Oof.
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>>736848398
Not Xeno related but I just discovered that Masatsugu Saito did some rather lewd fanart for 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim. I guess I shouldn't be surprised with how horny his Xenoblade characters are.
By the way if you are a Xeno fan and haven't played 13 Sentinels you really should, it's a non-linear mecha VN with RTS sections, it's awesome.
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>>736852639
Shion, my beloved.
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>>736852639
>Harada gone

So where is the port?
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God I miss them.
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>>736848602
Sex with Hikari
Marriage with Homura
Marriage with Hikari too.
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>>736852513
Is there someone in these piloting these ROBOTS?
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>>736850427
>Xeno uses Real Robots
>Evangelion uses Real Robots
What in the FUCK are you talking about?
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>>736848398
Did you consider that maybe the real commonality is that saga and gears have dogshit gameplay
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>>736854534
As opposed to the Blades and their auto-battler non-gameplay? You're an idiot.
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>>736854737
If you don't think blade's gameplay is at least a step up from deathblows you're a retard.
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>>736849802
Saga 1 desperately needs a rerelease at the very least so that I don't need to avoid savepoints like the plague just in case one of them causes my emulator to fucking crash. A remake would be good just to speed up the flow of combat, though.
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>>736850427
>G Gundam/Eva
So... super robots?
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>>736848398
Xenoblade 2 is the worst progression in any game I've ever played. Well over 70 hours in and I still was in combat tutorials. If i hadn't looked it up I wouldn't even have been able to topple niggas.

Cozy with a great story and the best voice acting but oh nononono this is a dogshit gameplay game I cannot endorse it.
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>>736848398
Playable mechs seems like the sort of thing that you can't go back on once you add it, but I can see how it wouldn't have fit into XC2.

Making the Ouroboros battle-only was an endlessly confusing decision though. So many choices in XC3 were huge mistakes.
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>add playable mechs
>mech combat is leagues worse than ground combat
what were they THINKING
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>>736855589
This is a bit of a meme, in my experience. Skells are far stronger than ground combat for 90% of the game, and they can oneshot every superboss except Gradivus just fine, they only fall behind once you start optimizing super hard. You really need to push the ground combat to its limits early on for it to overtake the raw damage output that you can achieve much more easily with skells.
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>>736849938
>>736854291
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>>736854906
A remake should streamline the story into one game. I love Xenosaga, and I will happily defend it, but I never understood why it needed to be multiple parts. Takahashi is kind of insane, and not necessarily in a good way.
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>>736857286
The landscape of game development back then wasn't the same as it is now. You're asking for a 100 hour JRPG with 6 years of development put into it, which just wasn't a thing back then.
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>>736852639
>>736852747
Space Jav pussy
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>>736849802
>>tfw no Saga remake ever ever
>I'm so fucking tired.
As much as i loved the saga trilogy and feel they should have had the chance to make the full 6 games it deserved i don't trust any modern dev to not ruin it.
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>>736857834
I get that, but again, that's why a remake. That's totally doable now.

>>736858171
To be honest, I don't think the six part original vision would've turn out well at all. Part II is infamous for being full of padding, and I think the other parts would've been the same.
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>>736858384
>Part 2 is full of padding
I found that part 1 was way worse. It's kinda like Phantom Menace, where everything seems to take way longer than it really needs to
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>>736858384
You can't really judge by the episode 2 and 3 we got, since they're both rewrites and Saga was pretty vocal about all the shit the new writer changed after she was fired. The DS game might be a better way to judge by, but I haven't played it yet.
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2DE when?
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>>736858698
15 year anniversary as the S2 is on its way out
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>>736858673
>and Saga was pretty vocal about all the shit the new writer changed after she was fired.
this is new lore to me anyone want to explain?
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>Series co-director and writer has the screen name "Saga"
>Second installment has the suffix "-saga"
>Soraya Saga gets fired
>Xenosaga goes to shit
#justiceforourgirl
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>>736858698
>>736858787
Retard.
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>>736858794
If you want a short explanation: one of the two original writers of Xenosaga and Takahashi's wife, Soraya Saga, was essentially ghosted after Xenosaga 1 and subsequently had a meltdown on her blog after getting shit on by fans for "abandoning" the series. That meltdown included a list of removed scenes/content from the final version of XS2.

If you want a long version just read this https://xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.com/p/the-history-of-xenosaga-xenosaga-ii-iii.html
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>>736857952
We talk about Nia being the minge girl when Shion is right here
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maybe one day we can get the originally planed xenosaga as a book or something.
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>>736859615
>We talk about Nia being the minge girl when Shion is right here
i was very disappointed when they changed her outfit her original one looked so much better.
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>>736859682
Long ass book god damn
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>>736859140
You WILL lose anti-2DE schizo, and you WILL post naked dogeza apology when you are proven wrong!
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I do wonder what's up with monolith every time they get to part 3 of a series it seems to go tit's up is it them refusing to learn a lesson or are they just cured.
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>>736859887
Takahashi just needs to hire an editor to not overextend his ideas. Disc 2, rushed second half of saga, after Mechonis Core, World Tree taking 3 chapters to climb and being a glorified hallway with cutscenes, chapters 6 and 7 of XC3, etc.
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>>736859820
> Long ass book god damn
Not like it's not been done before index is 44 volumes and climbing, Not including spinoffs and one off side story's.
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>gets child raped
>gets manipulated by her abuser
>>people still hate her
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>>736857286
I do kind of enjoy the slower pace in which the story is told in retrospect, but making Saga into a single game would be better for it than trying to get people onboard with a full trilogy remake (not a perfect comparison, but look at how FF7R lost a considerable number of players between games).
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>>736858637
Yeah, you can tell the material is being stretched to fit the six part format right form the jump.

>>736858935
The stuff you can tell was hers is easily the most interesting. Like, Shion's whole character arc, for example. I hate my younger self for not being able to appreciate this character. Gamers just weren't ready for a JRPG protagonist like her. Still aren't, to be honest.
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>>736857286
Xenosaga isn't even finished, out of 6 episodes, we only got 1.5
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>>736859824
kys
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>>736859983
Did Melville need an editor with Moby Dick? Did Dostoevsky need an editor with Brothers Karamazov? Geniuses don't need an editor.
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>>736860884
https://youtu.be/JQjTUtVpwH0?si=jwdOaCeqJaSDIOcT
Vocal version. I always thought it fit Billy's story the best
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>>736860961
lol, lmao even
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>>736860670
>but look at how FF7R lost a considerable number of players between games
That's not such a problem these days where games no longer have windows where they get sold and a single print run a really good game on steam will be getting sales 30 years from now devs just have not realized the new world we live in longer games can survive in these new conditions.
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>>736859737
I actually kinda dig 3's space pimp outfit. But yeah, the 2 outfit is pretty meh. The big problem though is that they had her ditch the glasses. A huge part of Shion's appeal is that she's a big nerd.
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>>736860968
>>736860884
I forgot, when does this play first?
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>>736860674
>Gamers just weren't ready for a JRPG protagonist like her.
She was fine in the first two games. Most, if not all the complaints about her was in the third game.
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>>736860653
ACTUAL GROOMING! We do not talk about this enough. Kevin legit groomed Shion, and this is a crucial plot point. What the fuck.
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>>736848398
>Gears
>sold like crap, forgotten

Nah, it sold quite well considering it was a RPG that wasn't FFVII and the start of a new IP.
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>>736848398
>Blade 2
>beloved (by degenerate retards)
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>>736848398
guess the last mech thread really hurt you.
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>>736848398
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>>736848398
Mechs are female repellant, I'm afraid. If you want twice the potential sales, you need a more standard JRPG fantasy experience.
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>>736855589
and ground combat always devolves to core crusher overdrive spam. No wonder ghosts has inante ether resistence since the devs knew they fucked up with that one skill.

There's a reason every global nemesis room is a now skellfest
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Ether lines are so fucking cool

What would a Switch 2 Edition for Xenoblade 2 warrant? I feel like it, more than any other Xenoblade, would get a big one. There are things I want of course, but I need to have realistic expectations
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>>736848398
x was sold on 3 console. It did well for being cursed stuck in a shit console, and being given two botched releases.

meanwhile 3 is dead and forgotten
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>>736862028
what even is a standard jrpg fantasy? dragon quest is pozzed and dead. ff is dead, atelier is barely alive. and jp is getting mogged by france
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>>736862028
sakura wars disproves this thoughever
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>>736848398
>xb3 flopped so bad. Ninty forced monolith into the zelda mines

hmm maybe the forced multiple niggas in a row and waifubaiting isnt working anymore
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>>736848398
Consider: All theXeno games with playable mechs expect you to go through 3+ hours long prologue segments before finally letting you fuck around with a mech, despite putting mechs on the cover.

Imagine playing the original Doom and it takes you 90 minutes of wandering around and tapping through dialog boxes until you get the fucking pistol. No one would've played that shit.
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>>736850427
I guess this is my wakeup call that I don't know what "super robots" or "real robots" actually means.
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>>736862787
I want to believe that this will lead to a Xeno game that plays like a Zelda game.
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>>736862827
>All theXeno games with playable mechs expect you to go through 3+ hours long prologue
No?
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>>736861409
She groomed him, if anything
>i hate the world and i am going to destroy everything
>wow look at this girl planting flowers
>i cant wait to trample all of these flowers and kill people
>one flower... survived? her divine command is the will of the gods, and i am but a pawn in her service
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>>736862028
>Mechs are female repellent
Women don't care for sci-fi in general, probably due to the fact that sci-fi stories were never aimed at the female demographic until very recently. Fantasy is the one genre where there's a lot of overlap between the sexes because boys think knights are cool and girls dream about being pretty princesses who ride horses and use magic. JRPGs are generally fantasy stories with both male and female protagonists and some teen romance, so it's no surprise that women make up a bulk of sales for JRPGs. The Tales Series fanbase is pretty much 60/40 women/men at this point.
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>>736862908
Yes.
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>>736862641
Sakura wars is liked in spite of the mechs. At its core it's a dating game.
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What causes this level of ritualposting? Are people so autistic that they want to see exactly the same threads and responses every day?
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>>736850427
>>736851384
Gears is pure sci fi, there are no "magical" elements
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>>736862909
That will not hold up in a court of law, Kevin.
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Oh joy, we've got a corporate executive in the thread. Love when "people" who have never had a real conversation with a human being make assertions based on the contents of their own ass.
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>>736862916
>probably due to the fact that sci-fi stories were never aimed at the female demographic until very recently.

Women don't care for any genre that doesn't involve a mary sue they can self insert as that gets turbofucked by a rich hot guy who may or may not be a werewolf. So really, it isn't any genre at fault for 'not attracting female demographics' but rather the plots don't have enough 6'4" billionnaire gigachads becoming obsessed with frumpy childless women in their 30s.
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>>736848398
>Blade X
>playable mechs
>sold like crap TWICE
you forgot to add that is absolutely beloved, yes it sold like crap but you don't hear ANYTHING from that game

2 >= X > 3 > 1
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>>736859887
They thought that they could just make xenosaga episode 3 again, while forgetting that xenosaga episode 3 fucking sucked.
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>>736862916
Space operas are female-demographic. Xenosaga is written by a female author named Saga, and the entire overarching story is a romance drama between a retarded self-insert woman and an omnicidial serial killer who fell in love and decided not to end the world because she is in it.
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>>736850710
IMO Mecha is divided in 3 paths: Super Robot, Gundam and Transformers.
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>>736848398
which of my mythra pyra are like aerith tifa
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>>736863165
*note: women will also settle for a hobo is that hobo is a prince and is hot and strong af
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>>736863318
The plot twist being that kirito has been gaslighting asuna and making her reset the universe countless amount of times is worse than the star ocean 3 plot twist.
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>>736848398
X is the best.
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>>736848398
>Blade 2
>no playable mechs
The Siren battle at the end of Torna is one of the most KINO moments of the series, and you "kinda" control it.
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>>736863464
but sold like crap.
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>>736863470
Oh come on, that doesn't count!
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>"hurr hurr women don't like sci fi!"
>meanwhile, science fiction was literally invented by a goth chick
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>>736863520
Nintjewdo stopped releaseing sales numbers
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>>736862787
You are a retarded faggot
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>>736864082
That's how you know it sold like crap, I'm not shitting on the game, is my second favorite of the series but facts are facts, the game didn't sell.
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>>736862995
It's a /vg/ refugee thread so the answer is yes
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KOS-MOS, my beloved.
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>>736864572
kos-mosposting is older than /vg/
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>>736862028
>Mechs are female repellant, I'm afraid.
If this really were true Gundam wouldn't be a fujo franchise which allegedly got popular with lonely housewives who shlicked relentlessly to Char. It probably takes more to coax women into giving something with cool giant robots punching each other a chance, but if the story appeals to them they'll push through.
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>>736860026
I hate that fucking series
>it's been 20 years but we're still not explaing how exactly the MC's powers work.
>yes, powers. He's got more than one but we're not letting him use them.
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>>736849802
>didnt end up with them scissoring
Yeah, deserved
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>>736862896
Xenoblade X IS the prototype for open world zelda games
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>>736864292
>That's how you know it sold like crap
how would you know? I just said ninity stopped dropping sales figures for everything
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Mechs continues to be the ultimate IQ filter
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>>736865509
Thank God Xenosaga is an actual art piece and didn't need a shallow pinocchio trope
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>>736850309
Tbh, the Ouroboros are like 3 meters tall. Their strides compensate for their lack of speed, and having a dash would make them too overpowered.
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>>736848398
Totally not a Xenoblade 2 glazer.
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>>736865895
ouroboros are ignored by the majority of the playerbase. they're worst than regular combat on top of doing shit damage
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>>736865509
A Xenosaga remake would absolutely ramp up the already existing yuri vibes. This is the story of a traumatized nerd who built herself a robot girlfriend, and you cannot convince me otherwise.
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>>736866128
>ouroboros are ignored by the majority of the playerbase
But I don't care?
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>>736855589
They are fun superweapons that weren't balanced around the idea that players would need them to complete main story quests. I woulld've loved Monolithsoft to take another stab at the Skell formula and have more gameplay sections involved with using them (ie, space exploration), but I could see the difficulty of creating interesting ground combat and skell environments could be a scope issue. However, after what they did to X with DE, I'd rather they just don't bother with X anymore.
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>>736858935
>Xenosaga goes to shit
It was shit from the beginning.
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>>736852513
Not a Transformers guy but I'm at least aware that Beast Wars exists and that there are animal versions of Optimus and Megatron. But I thought they were the same characters but here there different and can fuse? Or is this an alt universe coming together type thing? I always thought Beast Wars was a sequel to the original show and OP and Megatron just changed what they transformed into.
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>>736854941
It has the best gameplay out of the 4 games though. Yeah, it does a shit job explaining the combat, but once you figure it out and unlock all blade slots+art canceling the gameplay takes off. Its the only game where you're constantly chaining skills, as opposed to others where you're waiting for shit to get off cd
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>>736866719
Go back
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>>736850204
>Transformers is one of the most profitable IPs on the planet
lol
lmao
shit's only afloat due to hasbro's other ips. The last movies flopped because they were all kusoge slop and people can only handle so much garbage in the screens.
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>>736866871
You go back retard.
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>Obsession with sales
>Likes to engage in waifu-ism and coomer behaviour
>Claim their story are "peak" and better than everyone else.
Wait, Xenoblade 2 babies are gachaniggers?
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>>736865603
Pretty sure their policy is to only publish sales figures for games that break 1 million copies sold.
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>>736866927
Go back
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>>736866927
Autism, obsession with sales, and Gatcha go hand in hand.
Go visit any of the gatcha threads on /vg/ like /gig/ and you'll see how there is a huge correlation between the three.
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>>736866992
it also released near fiscal year and before nintendo management radically changed.

still it must have sold well enough to warrant switch 2 release
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>>736866756
fuck no. if anything 2 is the reason 3's combat is super fucking ass. But in typical nip logic let's take the worst aspect of the previous game and make it the standard
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>>736867713
Nah, 3s combat sucks because they tried to combine it with 1s combat which sucks ass, and making it so all your damage comes from chain attacks making ouroubors forms while looking cool, pointless.
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>see the thread
>maybe its finally time to give x a try
>look up a 60 fps mod
>its abandoned and buggy
Never mind
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>>736866756
>Automatic buffs from a AI companions so that your commands are all attacks or supports. Having a brain is secondary
>Unexplained debuffs system whose entire reason to exist is to do DPS in chain attacks
>For some fucking reason, a penalty on movement. In a game with positional attacks.
>Auto Attack Combos and art recharge so slow you have to tilt the joystick like an idiot to actually do something significant (until you get the art recharge at the beginning for each characters).
>Somehow, one characters only gets to use two weapons until a endgame quest, despite the combat system allowing you to take the same weapons for every other characters.
Bruh, no. Its ass until the game let you have fun, which is like Chapter 5 of a 100 hour game.
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>>736866756
FUCK NO. The level up tree was fucking ass and the game never properly teaches you how to play.
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>>736868404
>>Auto Attack Combos and art recharge so slow you have to tilt the joystick like an idiot to actually do something significant (until you get the art recharge at the beginning for each characters).
Learn to play the game dude. Mid game you're not even supposed to autoattack at all.
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>>736868129
>2020+6
>still doesnt know how to emulate
your loss nigga
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>>736868927
>say im looking for a thing only emulators use
>hahaha learn to use emulators
you're not very bright, are you anon?
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>xb2
>good
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>>736869030
ah my bad then. I played both versions modded.
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>xb3
>good
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>>736869083
>japanese humor
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>>736848398
I emulated all 4 Xeno games these past 14 months.
Xenoblade 2 is my least favorite.
>The level up trees on blades was super time consuming with very little benefits.
>Blade quests were kinda lame and added nothing. You only do them if they are sexy blades.
>The Gatcha system's pity is super unforgiving (on a single player game, come on!)
>Swapping blades for field actions takes forever. Should have been automatic
>DLC was better than the original game
Great softcore ecchi game, terrible xenoblade game. 6/10
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Apologize to her, NOW.
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For me, its 3=1>2. Being able to swap mid fight is a huge upgrades and I liked the story. I also love the FF5 like job system : while I think there is too many DPS and to few Defenders, I had neverless had fun tinkering my formation around.
However, I actually think Xenoblade 1's affinity system was better : being able to loan skills and such made everyone customisable while still keeping them unique. However, the fact that one party member fall off by endgame and the RNG gem system bring it down imo.
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>>736866724
Beast Wars is a sequel but set in both the far future and the far past. The characters come from the far future. Optimus Primal and Megatron from Beast Wars are distant descendants of the original characters. However the majority of the show takes place on Earth during the early stages of human development so far past before the main Transformers series takes place.
So whatever show that is is correctly displaying them as four separate characters however the merging isn't right. I suspect they're merging here to save on animation so it's a 1v1 instead of 2v2 but also it's a means of fanservice to Beast Wars fans because those final forms are in the show.
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X is too wrpg for basic bitch xeno games. Hence why its the best out of the four.
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>>736848398
How is every xeno thread always 2 and 3 shitposting?
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>>736870881
2 is too anime and 3 is too schizo.
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>>736870881
it's why /xgg/ has been dead for years, it just devolved shortly after 3 released. Everybody's got to be a bunch of miserable cunts about something, no one's allowed to enjoy things and have fun
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>>736850204
>Transformers is one of the most profitable IPs on the planet. Those movies still make bank
Gonna tell you a secret little bro: Nobody watched those movies for the robots lmao
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>>736865291
That's all a myth, btw. Gundam sold plastic, bought by boys and men, which is where 90% of its profit comes from. Because television is free, you see.
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>>736873896
Reality once again lets me down. Now I'll never be able to seduce all those middle-aged Japanese women with my Fat Char cosplay.
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>>736872997
3 was that bad huh?
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>>736873690
>original movie flopped
>bayverse slop sold well but petered out
>tfone(the only good movie) flopped
>hasbrobrought bay back for new movie
it says a lot when the most well recieved transformer media as of late is that one trigger aimation
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>>736874653
prime example of why /xgg/ died and xenoblade threads are shit
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>>736848398
>OP is a 2only beginning the "discussion" with his forced bait flamewar shit by attacking the rest of the series in his supposed "franchise" thread

Wonderful thread. Discussing Xeno on /v/ sure is fun.
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Gears is still the best because it has the best mech designs

Everything afterward looks increasingly like overdesigned Chinese bootleg kits
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>>736869428
It's funny to me how 3 completely replaced X as the game people randomly bring up whenever their favorite entry is criticized.
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>xenoblade 1
>a very small amount of fanservice (beach outfits for fiora but also shulk so whatever)
>xenoblade 2
>main character has big fucking tits and visible thong strap hotpants

fucking why
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>>736860653
>>736861409
The entire Kevin/Shion plot filtered midwits and speedreaders so hard the games couldn't have anything but generic shonen anime plots ever again.
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>>736875376
I love hraesvelg thou. Best thing de did. shame it's not as strong as lvl 60 skells or ares 90
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>>736875562
Nintendo urgently needed their playerbase back after the Wii U, which is why the first two Switch years were full of coom
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>>736875657
Yep. The best we got was basically a Macross pastiche with a protagonist who was maybe a little bit questionable in her actions if you squited hard enough, but we never got that level of "Oh, that's why you're like this." sophistication ever again.
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>>736875562
>fucking why
Why not?
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>>736877095
I wonder what the psychological effect is of continuously pairing infantile facial features and mannerisms with sexual arousal
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>>736848398
the only reason why they keep making it is because japan likes it
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>>736865540
no wind waker was
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>>736863019
So we're gonna ignore the guy waving around a beam sword that tells him the future?
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Mythra anal
Pyra anal
Nia anal
Rex anal
Malos anal
Jin anal
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>>736879290
We are
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>>736881231
『Ursula's New Groove』
And we'll do what we can
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Xeno a shit
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>>736855589
Skells are just augs dependant and they don't progress like ground combat. It's definitely stronger than your character after you maxed it.
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Mechs are cool.

Shitty harem anime and natalist propaganda are not.
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>>736848398
Then why is it that most of the xeno webms here from x then?
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>>736875562
>anon somehow managed to ignore Sharla, the Mechon queen, etc
XB1 is doing the exact same thing.
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>>736883283
>natalist propaganda
They just fell in love, you joyless twat. Not everything is a conspiracy.

Also, it's still hilarious.
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>>736875562
>>736875562
Eguchi: For “Xenoblade 2”, the colors and the visuals of the character give me the impression that you wanted to lower the target audience age. What do you say to this?

Hashino: I was wondering the same thing. I wanted to hear what Takahashi-san’s intention was for this.

Takahashi: For those that don’t know, you might think that. But really, I didn’t really think too hard about it.
I look at the games that Atlus makes, and I’m impressed by the brand that they establish. The world is cohesive, and you could tell just by looking that it’s an Atlus game. It easily attracts customers looking for that sort of thing. I was thinking about how amazing that is, and how you pull it off.

(...)

Takahashi: [Still talking about brands] As I said before, I get bored easily, so I don’t have one brand image that I can stick to. The reason why I went with the visuals I did in “Xenoblade 2” is just because I felt like the Earth colors of the original “Xenoblade” were getting old. I wanted to go with a pop look.
I might unleash the fury of Nintendo onto me by saying this, but I kind of wondered what would happen if I went in the complete opposite direction from the last game (Note: I assume he means the original Xenoblade, and not Xenoblade X). An experiment if you will. That’s the main reason for the shift in art style.

Eguchi: So, there isn’t really a discussion about marketing, or considering the player-base of those who own a Nintendo Switch and whatnot?

Takahashi: We’re developers, so we have to actively seek out that information to get it.
We learned [from Nintendo] what kind of player-base the Nintendo Switch has, so we did adjust to that somewhat. But really, I just wanted to go the completely opposite direction from the last game (Note: Again, I think he’s talking about the original Xenoblade).
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>>736884569

I mean 3 having whole scenes dedicating to "oh wow, its great to have kids!"
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>>736884578
"Hashino: So, you value the interaction the characters have with the world.

On the other hand, the clothing is quite flashy. Have you seen the butt of “Xenoblade 2”’s heroine? (laughs)
Even with that, the world feels like it exists, and it must be because of your philosophy of how the people interact with things.

Takahashi: Yes, because I don’t want it to feel like it’s not everyday life. With that being said, I do put in my fetishes. (laughs) It’s hard to balance it all. (Note: I assume he is talking more broadly about fantasy designs, and not specifically his fetishes)"

https://xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.com/p/denfaminicogamer.html
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i mea xenoblade chronicle 2 is good
3 is good too
1 is too much 2010, too old to be played.
x is too mid. "big planet and we will do nothing on it"

xenosaga was wtf, i dunno why it existed, why it existed like this, and why did it not remade in proper way. saga 1 is just cosmo game with robots. saga 2 is some shit full of retcon and some memories. saga 3 is udo zarathustra saint peter maria magdalina, maria the saint one, jesus, abel solomon jews anima animus pulse lsie falcie cocoon.
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>>736884569
>Also, it's still hilarious.
The real hilarious thing was 2fags swearing up and down for years that Xenoblade 2 wasn't a harem story because Pyra and Mythra are technically one person and Nia gets cucked, only for them to completely embrace it the moment this dropped and pretend that was always the intention all along.
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xenoblade chronicles 4 never
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>>736866179
Shion didn't even build her lol, it's her Ex boyfriends sloppy seconds
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>>736848398
Gears still gets talked about thanks to video essayists lol
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>>736883809
because it is a great game that sold like shit.

Nobody argues the quality of the game, is just that it doesn't appeal to the masses.
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>>736884781
3 is shit
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>>736887563
3 is fairly good until chp 5, then everything just sucks.
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>>736884781
Both 2 and 3 are fucking garbage x is the only one with good gameplay
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>>736848398
Xenoblade 2 fans aren't Xeno fans THOUGHBEIT
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>>736848398
You like this garbage?
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>>736850427
No, it’s firmly rooted in shit
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>>736850427
What do you think omnigears are?
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>>736890076
the result of a Gear aligned with an Anima Relic (An organic part of Deus)
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>>736850427
Xenogears is a love letter to all genres of mecha.
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>>736858698
i need her so badly
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You think Elly remembers being Miang as Fei's mother as they have sex?
You think she's into it?
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I was pretty disappointed with Mitsudas work in xenoblade. It seems he never reached the highs of chrono trigger - cross - xenogears
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>>736892229
>fact
>look inside
>opinion
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>>736890076
Shit
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>>736848398
The mechs were useless in X weren't they? I remember that the endgame bosses all would just blow up your mech without a chance for you to interact and all you wanted to do was lure them to ground level so you could one-shot them with the evasion regular guys
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>>736894901
Wii u days are over and bonejelium farm also meant you were swimming in excess material tickets. Basically auging your skells became super easy and making them so busted for the main story content.
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>>736894901
Nobody knows how the game worked back then. Fuck no one knew how to use overdrive at all till DE. Skells are atleast more varied than ground build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCpkY3c-suM
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>>736892179
It’s like turds dreaming they are people
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>>736875562
>fucking why
Because it's hot
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>>736848398
>got outsold by slop like mario golf super rushed
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isnt pyras outfit a bit too lewd for a children's game. How did they get away with that
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>>736850769
>others are dishonest so why are you enganging honestly
This is why this site so often disolves into a shitshow. Fix this mentality.
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>>736884578
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XDE is the best Xenoblade because they added a mechanic that lets you skill cooldowns and actually interact with battles. It makes me feel like I'm actually playing a video game.
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>>736898634
NTA but the actual problems with Xeno threads run deeper than that. it's impossible to have real discussions because of a discord troon larping as a mafia boss with a group of attack dogs that gangrape any post with an "incorrect" opinion. Even if he or his crew aren't browsing the thread /v/ is full of zoomers that get their opinions from him anyway.
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>>736884578
>But really, I just wanted to go the completely opposite direction from the last game (Note: Again, I think he’s talking about the original Xenoblade).
Wouldn't it be X?
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>>736894901
I already killed a couple of 90 tyrants that keeps ccing or oneshotting me. But with the skell, I can actually kill them. Yeah it's lailah but it's OD is basically ghostwalker but last 10x longer.
>>736899203
I have a hard time going back to 2 because of overdrive. Poppy is close, but X mc is more busted and easier to play as.
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>>736894901
>>736899594
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>>736848398
Xenoblade is for fake gamers, it’s an anime pretending to be a video game
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>>736849016
Good Xenoblade is way too overhyped and its fans are obnoxious
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Mio uses Noah's penis as a scratching post, much to the dismay of both of them
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>>736899994
why is x2/3 visual vomit compared to this >>736899624
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Eat the nopon
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>>736899994
Playing 3 right now.

>Game has tank, healer, dps, tri force roles
>Huge party limit that looks like a MMO party
>Looks even more like a MMO compared to previous entries
>Plays even more like a MMO compared to previous entries

Director really needs to just rip the band-aid off and just make a Xeno MMO already. X doesn't count. He can expand the world as big as he wants it and can have all the freedom he wants since he's known for having all these massive background lore that never make it into his games. Consoles are just holding this dude back.
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>>736901778
X is the closest xeno got to an mmo. If anything they should just go all out if they do make an x sequel. Besides, pso2 is dead.
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>>736848398
Isn't the reason X did poorly was because it released on the Switch just before the Switch 2 release?
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>>736894901
I fucking HATED mech combat and the game forces you to fight like 3 or 4 superbosses with it. Fun to explore but boring to fight with.
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>>736855589
skells are actually easier to play as than ground combat. Well it's certainly easier than ground overdrive combo chaining
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>>736901778
Honestly, I feel like they should tone down the MMO-ness
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>>736901190
Every subsequent game made me hate nopons even more.
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>>736903731
You mean dolls
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>>736899994
Where's the cum meter and bonus chance
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>>736905503
They didn't allow cum in Xenoblade 3.
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>>736848398
Xenosaga 1 sold pretty well, it was the shitshow Xenosaga 2 that bombed so hard they cut a 6 part project to 3 games and stuffed everything into 3. The gameplay in 2 was so bad that for Xenosaga 3 they just made a standard turn based RPG with less gimmicks than 1 and 2.
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Mythra My Beloved
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>>736852630
the battles were so boring
should have just been a novel
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>>736848398
>>736849016
OP, we heard you the first time. You love XB2 and are assmad over XB3.
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>>736889032
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I want to have sex with Ellie's mech. Vierge kinda bad tho.



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