When does it get good?
>>736849424when you step into the 1st stratum
>>736849424>OG3Simply starting the game. Best sound trackBest trash classes with beast/droidBest secret end
>>736849424after you 100% the game
i hate that ninja kid
>>736850454>i hate the class that can solo the game effortlessly me too and tourists think fafnir knight is op.
>>736849424wizardry daphne is dying.
>>736850647No, not the class, just that cocky ninja kid
>>736850695Maybe they should try to make a real game next time.
>>736850727I dont play demakes so i only know the original version which has literally zero story characters with pretty much no dialogue. Tourists have EO4 and the baby mode untold games if they want hand holding and pathetic waifus
>>736849424I had more fun when I restarted with a lower tier party that used princess as the sole healer
>>736849816>EO3>beast
>>736850695Good.Fuck gacha slop
>>736849816Wildling is worse than trash, just pure unfun suffering. Not even enjoyable for a challenge run
>>736849424>HDNever, this is an objectively shitty version of the game. Tried it yesterday and have already gave up and I'll just wait for 3 to get retroachievements supportIt needed a full proper automap mode because the new map drawing implementation is the worst fucking shit I've ever seent. Beaten EO1 and 2 on my Acekard 2i over a decade ago
>>736851275What makes it shitty compared to emulating the original?
>>736851521Old good.New bad.
>>736849663This. If you don't like it it's just not for you. 3 is exactly where the class complexity and well designed random encounters take off.
>>736850986You don't play anything because the remaster didn't change anything regarding story. Agata (the dumb ninja kid) and Hypatia (the blonde zodiac following him) were always in 3 and their idiocy gets one of them killed every time. Much like that one landskneckt that tries soloing the Drake.
>>736851521I've already fucking answered your questionYou'd get a better experience emulating the original on a phone since at least you still have both screens available at all times. The demaster is just a shitty quick cashgrab
>>736849424when you install the mods
>>736851675I only play games on my PC. I emulated 1 & 2 and there was no difference between that and playing 3 natively on the PC other than it running considerably better.
>>736851793Emulating the NDS version is still superior even on PC, you just didn't find any difference because you're probably playing with a gamepad and thus never bothered to make proper use of the touchscreenI played the entire franchise minus 3 and Nexus on the 3/DS and the shitty remaster filtered me within minutes. The fact that there's a "full automap" option but I'm still forced to fucking waste my time drawing chests while using a god awful interface is fucking retarded. Meanwhile on the original version, I can finish that task seamlessly during the 2 second it takes to load a battle
>>736849424exactly? I think when you unlock the sailing minigame
>>736851650>Much like that one landskneckt that tries soloing the Drake.fuck>was just getting through cyclopeian haunt and happen to run into her doing sidequests>thought we would have a cool co op fight to get my first lvl cap increase like the tag team with the emperor in 4>mfw I know she's doomed to die now
>>736851076i did that until i got subclasses, then i let my wildling pick up some heals.
>>736851675>better experience>phonepick fucking one. phonefags never should've been let into the same internet as the rest of us.
>>736852065?what are you even bitching about retard. Just click the chest icon and drag it it's the same shit as on DShell, get a touchscreen screen if you really crave the old feel.
Post parties, just wanna see your parties
>>736852441sure
>>736852326Get cancer and die you fucking nigger. I am not telling anyone to emulate it on the phone, I'm just stating that it's objectively a better experience than playing the fucking garbage remaster. Stop pretending that you have more right than phonefagsubhumans when you're playing the shitty remaster you nigger.>>736852332>Just click the chest icon and drag it it's the same shit as on DSWhile using the worst fucking interface known to man. You have to press triangle to start map edit mode, then you have to fucking click a fucking barely visable tab to make the icon menu appear and then you have to fucking drag it to a extremely zoomed part of the map. On the original you tap the touchscreen once and you're all set. It's not my fault that you zoomers are too poor to purchase a 3DS now and have to resort to these fucking shitty ports now. At the very least, don't pretend that the remaster is any good.
>>736849424When you turn it off and play SMT Strange Journey instead
>>736852601>brags about a 200 dollar handheld purchase>too spiritually black to just left hand gamepad right hand mouseEo5 is sitting in the n3ds I repaired myself btw
>>736852796>brags about a 200 dollar handheld purchaseWhy do you keep projecting so damn much? I'm not bragging, I bought mine for $70 for fucks sake. It's just that I don't understand why would anyone play this fucking garbage port when the originals exist unless they're just too poor to buy a 3DS now.>too spiritually black to just left hand gamepad right hand mouseAnd this is exactly why I said that even phoneniggers have a better time playing this fucking shit>Eo5 is sitting in the n3ds I repaired myself btwBased, but then why the hell are you downgrading yourself into playing this fucking dogshit? Buying or shilling this shitty cashgrab won't give us EO6 anon.
How easy is it to use custom art for the HD versions?
>>736853269No custom art.
>>736853231>Why do you keep projecting so damn much? I'm not bragging, I bought mine for $70 for fucks sake. It's just that I don't understand why would anyone play this fucking garbage port when the originals exist unless they're just too poor to buy a 3DS now.The HD assets are much nicer and the mapping is nowhere as obtuse as you're making it out to be. I'm 80 hours into my 3HD save and it's fine>And this is exactly why I said that even phoneniggers have a better time playing this fucking shitagain, it's really not a bad control scheme. If you go full keyboard the V button toggles the menu with the map doohickeys which is very easy to press if you're already on wasd. You also don't need to play it in the full map view; you can just keep the map UI open while you play. It's fine, I promise you>Based, but then why the hell are you downgrading yourself into playing this fucking dogshit? Buying or shilling this shitty cashgrab won't give us EO6 anon.>Implying I paid for theseWhen they came out atlus fucked up and released them denuvoless for like 5 minutes so they were extremely ez to pirate. 50 bucks per HD game is some massive kiked shit and I'm not paying more of the atlus tax; buying this shit isn't gonna make next stage happen.
>>736853325>>736853269there was an anon in the last thread that modded his game to put decent himukai sloppa into his game. i dunno if he's around but it's possible
>>736853269https://gamebanana.com/tuts/16144>>736853325No need to lie.
>>736852601nah fuck off with that shit. there is no universe where a phone is ever the "better way" to experience anything. Touchscreen controls are fundamentally dogshit, and you being so defensive about them proves your a retarded faggot zoomer who was born with a smartphone shoved up his ass.
>>736853927>Touchscreen controlsGuess the original game's control scheme you faglord
>>736849424Somewhere around the end of floor 2 when you've got a couple levels and some HP so you have abilities to use in combat and aren't getting oneshot by lynxes.
>>736854559The map is very different than the actual game controls.
serious talk. if you dont or didnt play it on a 3ds and drawing your own maps, you do not play EO
>>736853927its a touchscreen game, retard.
>>736851586>and well designed random encounters take off...3 literally was infamous for auto battling everything, because random encounters were that braindead.4 was the game where atlus went all out with punishing auto battling by giving mosnters skills that you need to watch out as RESPONSE to complains about 3 random encounters>3 is exactly where the class complexityNot true either, it was still same shit as old games with you just putting skills into op ability because you could get any you aimed for before even end of second stratum, while ignoring everything else
>Outsold untold 2 despite being $80>Still was a failure according to sega
>>736859946I bought them to support the series and never touched them because I would still rather play on my DS. Guess at this point it's safe to assume it's not coming back, they would have ported 4/5 already if they thought people still wanted EO
Is there a reason to play 1 when untold exist?
>>736859946this shit actually sold well?I'm not surprised though, after persona and SMT atlus has had a tough time making bank. IIRC metaphor refantasio also didn't hit sales projections(thought it wasn't a bomb)
>>736862667they're both mechanically different and IIRC some of the maze designs differ as well
>>736862710>this shit actually sold well?DependsSwitch physical alone sold better than untold 2, despite it being $80 game vs $40 game. But always remember that Untold 2 bombed hard back in the day because it went against everything people loved about series.Sega reported that sales of new releases(Sonic + EO HD) didn't hit the mark they expectedhttps://www.segasammy.co.jp/cms/wp-content/uploads/pdf/en/ir/20230801_q1_presentation_e_final.pdf
>>736852441>amd radeon graphics>driver nvidiahuh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQoMBbwzyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEsgRhIhHf8I love the dungeon crawling. But I live on the seas ~
>>736863673>not having a dual GPU setup Retard
>>736852570>that messagebased buccaneer
>>736851275isnt this version censored
>>736865906Kill yourself, retard
>>736865906You can even notice the nipples in that pic, idiot.
>>736862667Yeah, they're different games.
>>736863796>first ever party was 5x Buccaneer cause I heard you could sail3 is just so special and honestly it would be hard to explain why, it just isI still dream for a game with 4's overworld exploration but with a huge map like 3imagine sailing around freely to new dungeons and cities
Redpill me on cuckaneers, how many link follow ups triggers per turn do I need to make the class worth it?
>>736867070you get charge+pincushionpilled instead
>>736867070Early on Buccaneer is pretty miserable because everyone runs H and M to cover their survivability while the only thing the Buccaneer does particularly well is provide ailments and binds to help you survive. In the lategame you look forward to being a worse G/B but the difference IIRC isn't very big unless you farm stat books, in which case you're 25% worse. The main issue is that Buccaneer doesn't have a very useful class skill, the only unique skill you get, Princess runs into the same issue.
>>736867070>link follow upslol, lmaoyou spam quick draw the whole game until you can get a good skill
Wait. What's this? I was just looking for some good old Etrian Odyssey music on youtube, and found this game's soundtrack. Is it fun or shit?
>>736852441
>>736852441Poplar and Craspedia are brother and sister and Poplar always has to put him in his place.
>>736849424It's a gameplay game, there's no big story moment or an epic reveal, you just build up your dudes and smack niggas a lot, that's the appeal, it's not like the modern JRPGs which are basically just interactive anime shows
>>736870983Ok, but I've tried games like Legend of Grimrock or PS2's Wizardry and they have objectively better gameplay and more engaging systems.Hell, even the gacha Wizardry is a better title than this.
>>736852254Sorry for spoiling but the game is (oh God) over a decade old
>>736871113The DS EOs are a lot less refined than the 3DS entries. If you want deep systems go for 2 Untold.
>>736849424after your lobotomy, don't bother playing it before that
>>736871113Etrian 1 2 and 3 are literally pen and paper RPGs but digital. 4 untold and mystery dungeon is when they needed normie money. They are super casual and accessible. Anyone who rabidly likes them should be ignored as they have shit taste 5 has a wildly different battle system. Try that. Nexus is just a medley of the series after 4. You play etrian if you like yuzu koshiro and pen and paper roleplay.
>>7368715934 is mostly mid but the superbosses are decent, especially Warped Savior.
>>736870983If there's one thing I appreciate about some of the later games, they really nail the feel of your skills being over the top anime bullshit.
>does 99,999 damage in you're path
>>736871719>achieved in 0.5 second animations with strong sound design instead of 60 seconds of camera angle VFX vomitWhy can't more games do this