>character is beloved by the entire community>doesn't get screentime>is forgotten by the devs>only alive due to the communitywhy does this happen?
who
back to your general, tranny
>>736852285Realities is voice actors are busy sometimes.Currently the head writer is a theatre failure who only writes in a poor style and ignores establishe lore and characters to play with his own toys
>>736852285Y'shtola is the second-worst female character in XIV, beaten only by Minfilia is you ignore the sizable power gap, and is outclassed by fucking Nanamo of all people. Everyone in the Scions except Tataru and the elf twink are do-nothing garbage.
>>736852285She is a boring character that is only carried by her appearance. She's inevitably going to get ruined as time passes.Kill off the scions to make them good forever.
>>736852734Yda is way worse thoughbeit
>>736852285who???????
>>736852790Yeah I got bored and quit the game about 10% of the way into Shadowbringers so I've not been following it.
>>736852856>comments on the scions without completing the expansion building on the scions as charactersok then
>>736852759I don't think she is an inherently boring character, if anything, she is one of the more interesting ones among the Scions. It's just the writers don't know what the fuck to do with her.
>>736852905They had an entire game and two expansions to "build on the scions" before that.
>>736852790Whats the problem with yda?
>>736853101head so empty that it's annoying instead of endearing
>>736852285Yeah being a Sadu fan is suffering
>>736853218I defeated ultima for the first time last night and so far i liked her. she reminds me of vanille, just with a tendency to drink bleach. Does it get worse or something?
How would you fix FFXIV?
>>736853408This but Loon Gah
>>736853478why did you stop emet posting?
>>736853408I mean she's a tribe leader from bumfuck nowhere. She's too busy to feature everywhere. And for what reason would she drop all that to join mr W. Light for whatever ghost induced autism event they find themselves knee deep into?
>>736853723The WoL was the only one able to get her off right.
I love Elezen women so much that it's unbelievable
>>736853478I'd honestly put a couple babies in his bussy if you know what I mean.
Lucky boy got to see her panties
>>736853769This pic is one of the hottest pieces of XIV lewds ever and my dick weeps for not being able to sex sadu on the plains during a fight But you know that If she leaves magnai wins by default and she's never going to take that L unless he tags along. An offline XIV RPG with all these side characters as party members with fully fledged stories would be great. >Dude too manyStill less than Chrono Cross, they can pull It off
Fire kate firen hiroi
>>736854119fire yoship
>>736853478Seppuku of kate and senatranny live on stage at the upcoming fan-fest. yoshi-p would stand above them with his sword ready to decapitate them once they got far enough along, but wouldn't, intentionally prolonging their suffering while they died a slow agonizing death. That's the only way I would resub btw.
8.0 is her time to shine... right?
>Lightning thread gone >Y'shtola thread staysbased
>>736855473Shtola is just better than lightningsimple as
hey thread, do something cool
>>736852285She's the 4th character with the most lines in the game
You literally made this thread yesterday abel
>>736852285Nah nigga I hate that bitch she should have stayed dead, only good as a cocksock that comes with a cuck to humiliate.
>>736856105not enough
>>736856203is abel in the room with us right now?
>wanting more of yshtolaI have never understood this. She's forgotten plot thread the character.Hey remember how her continuing to use her abilities after her little aether dunk was slowly killing her? Yeah so did all the writers
>>736856635Didn't they hand wave that with emet pulling her back to continue her work as wol fuckmeat
Yes the cat is fun. However...
>>736856651>toned tummiesUNF
>>736853408Square knows shes popular, she even visits your island after you developed it enough. But they also know Ryne's popular and look what they did to her, just up and abandoned her.
>>736856713i really want to feel that pigs butt with my hands
best catgirl
>>736857038Are they naked?
>>736852285You just like Y'shtola for her body
>>736857289Everyone is naked anon
>>736853423Heh.Enjoy the last chunk of HW and the entirety of Stormblood, anon.
>>736855124Can't even say they couldn't do anything with herWhatever office politics went down that led to the New World not being to have anything to do with Eorzea prevented her from having any involvement from the first half of the plot.Then the plot doubling down of Wuk Lamat kept her out of the second half.That last patch showed how much better it would have been if she was the center protagonist of the expac
Sadu doesn't get enough artwork.
>>736857554Lol isnt the phrase "Wuk Lamat" the most spoken phrase by Krile!
>>736857650
>>736852285that doesn't describe yshtola though. that describes thancred and urianger
>>736852285who the fuck are you
>>736859164Who the fuck are (You)??
Only way to save FFXIV is to unironically fire Yoshi
>>736859604removing any decision making power from localization would fix dawntrail
>>736859604how would you ironically fire Yoshi
>>736859853localization isn't the team responsible for the game having no content to do 2 days past a new patch
>>736859302Should have used the revive candy on her
>>736860095localization is a big reason the story of dawntrail was complete doghshit
>>736860148the game isn't just the story, and it's been shit even before DT thoughmeanwhile they increased the length of each patch since covid, never reverting back, and in the end we have less content and more downtimeand when they do make content, it's for 3% of the players (raid trannies, deep shit dungeons)I mean, I'm not opposed to fire the localization team. But they shouldn't be the only team being fired if they truly want to make the game good.
>>736860095there are two problems with DT in my correct opinion:>poor MSQ, as a result of pearl clutchers. goes well beyond just the writingTural has no depth to it and is so polished and pretty there's no friction or reality in the setting, which has traditionally been realistic and gritty. There were questionable decisions made with characterization and there were several instances where it felt like they just copypasted plot beats from previous xpacs. the netflix style of dialogue was also grating, and their stated goal of a 'new start' but going so far as to have the main theme of Endwalker play during the most nonsensical scene in the entirety of 7.0 >the focus on higher difficulty multiplayer content that ended up dying far far faster than normal level content wouldFT being dead on arrival, Quantum being a one and done for those interested, codcar being billed as one thing but presented as another (though I do think this one is also in the hands of the community). i have not seen any party doing the savage mode of the new variant, just the slightly more difficult boss rush. and hilariously, FRU is seen as a low quality ultimate fight since it allowed you to corpsewalk it far more than previous ultimates
Dawntrail's 1st half is the worst fucking experience I've ever gotten from this kusoge, it's legitimately far worse than even the worst parts from ARR
>>736861010i dunno. 2.2 to 2.3 is pretty fucking awful
>>736860768It is very questionable how some content still haven't been scrapped yet, it's like they have numbers but will never truly take a look at them.Just look at the deep dungeons, barely cleared, and they keep pumping them each extension for 10 people max, it's even worse when they used the last one for people to experiment QUANTUM.Imagine you're a dev, you're gatekeeping the new experimental feature, that allegedly should save the game (according to them), behind 100 floors of the literal worst thing in the game, it was already outdated a decade ago with potd. But they did and, of course, it's also tied to the worst use of the UI (the offerings). They just don't learn shit. CoDCAR? Fucking FOMO shit. Then they'll have the gall to say "we don't have any budget to make FT normal" while pumping the game of modern clothes in the store. Any person with access to the data and numbers they (should) have would tell you exactly how to fix the game. This game is fucking trash and dead.
>>736861438you're just baiting or a braindead idiot if you actually think Nidhogg kino was worse than the endless janny work that woke lemutt put you through for a bunch of tribal subhumans you just met
>>736861592quantum's issue isn't being locked behind PT. there are far worse requirements for other difficult content modes. look at what you have to go through to get to DRS for exampleyoshi-p is the source of a lot of this. he still believes hard content will be experienced players dragging new players through it. but its full of full raid wipes where its impossible to corpsewalk. and if its difficult to drag people through it, they won'tthe fetishization of difficulty is in practice antithetical to a genre in which the most valuable metric is number of participants. you can't have your cake and eat it too
>>736861738strange, were you fighting Nidhogg when i was helping doman refugees and doing the jankiest MSQ trial ever in leviathan normal?
>>736852734Nanamo should have died. Monarchy is cringe.
>>736853526my beloved
>>736861738anon i...
>>736852285She's by far the weakest scion, character wise.>ThancredBiggest ride-or-die someone could ask for.>UriangerThat autistic friend who will tell you about his hyperfixations, but also listens to yours.>AlisaieAirhead little sister who wants to 1-up you.>AlphinaudSmartass little brother who wants to impress you.>EstinienEdgy gigachad with a golden heart, who happens to be very similar to us in many ways.>GrahaMost reliable friend you can have, even if he's a bit needy.>KrileTries her best and can be smug. Shame she gets cucked by the story.>TataruThe nigga you ask for fries with your burger, who then glares at you before ordering you a large one anyways.And then there's Y'shtola. She likes books. Her entire character is as shallow as the average Tinder bio.
>>736861794You can't put Quantum on the same level as DRS. These are different pieces of content. Quantum is supposed to be this fight with different difficulties that players of various skills could do. And when they're asking for FEEDBACK. Meanwhile DRS? It's not that difficult to unlock (you play Bozja, which is great in my book). And it's not like DR was locked behind the same requirements.>he still believes hard content will be experienced players dragging new players through itThat's funny because he himself said about FT that it's clearable by half noobs and half raiders. Meanwhile Ozma (or whoever designed this piece of shit content) put body checks everywhere. Enjoy dying from someone you don't see on your screen, because he failed a mechanic he didn't remember in his 50 pages raidplan.He's contradicting himself every time, it's so obvious he hasn't played his game for a loooooooooong time, he probably didn't play XIV actively since before the increased length of patches.
>>736862271i can put DRS on the same level as quantum because DRS has a lot more requirements to participate in than quantum. >FEEDBACKthey only wanted feedback from their targeted savage audience, which is another issue
>>736862129they only need to have her as (You)r canon gfit's the only viable role left for Shtola at this point
I miss Ryne so much, bros...
>>736862560Well, I disagree but in the end, it doesn't change the fact that almost nobody played this shit content anyway, so... I'd even say most savage raiders didn't even bother with it, between doing the 100 floors AND having to farm your gear to 99.It's funny looking at the stats though: barely an additional .3% have cleared Q15 compared to Q40.
>>736861738Are you retarded?
>>736863115that post has a lala attached to it. it drives shitposters into a frothing rage and they forget things
>>736862129but Y'shtola is the one who cares the most about the WoL
>>736859087Big Coco has a correct opinion for once.
>>736862730we all do, anon, we all do
>>736862129you forgot the most important part, i want to fuck yshtola desperately.
>>736862129Tataru is easily my least favourite. At some point after ARR they changed the joke from her being shit at everything to her being the best and most powerful scion despite still being functionally useless and designing ugly clothes.Krile is pedo bait for the "actually she's a middle aged frump" autists.
>>736862129Why are you gay?
>>736863208i'm always right. except in making bingo cards
>>736852285They don't know how to use most of the characters anymore but would rather keep them around than upset people who became attached.Y'shtola in particular had a problem with needing to be written out of the story in some way so the average conflict can't be solved by asking her to come up with a convenient spell. Now she's well behind the characterization of the other Scions.>>736856635>slowly killing herBad localization.
>>736863617You're very retarded if you think she's useless only she can't fight, lmao. You read too many shonens.>Krile is pedo baitOh, you're in fact a zoomer. It makes more sense.
>>736863869>Y'shtola in particular had a problem with needing to be written out of the story in some way so the average conflict can't be solved by asking her to come up with a convenient spell.This problem began because they decided to make her into an all-knowing archmage in HW. Previously Y'shtola's specialties were in ancient languages and mythology. Her niche should have been pinpointing primal weaknesses by exploring the myths they originated from.
Krile is the single most useless character of all time, she is literally just Y'shola lite, she adds nothing.
>>736852285It's simpleY'shtola got into Dissidia instead of Alphinuad or Minfilia. For that the writers decided to shadowban her from her own game out of spite. Change my mind.
>>736862730made for impregnation
>>736863920She was a bad secretary in ARR, and there used to be a whole questline of her trying to find something to do to be useful and having to be saved by us. Maybe you're too new to have seen that, it was cut in the streamlining a few years ago.
OH BUY I LOVE LOPORRITS I LOVE SEEING THEM IN EVERY SINGLE PATCH AND NOW THEY WILL BE FEATURED MORE IN THE NEXT EXPANSION!I LOVE LOPORRITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN MOOGLES!
>>736864073>Y'shtola got into Dissidia instead of Alphinuad or Minfilia.All very odd choices for a fighting game.
>>736852285She is genuinely far better as a character since Endwalker. They have learned how to use her properly now without struggling to write her pedantic holier than thou dialogue.But there is zero excuse that she is such a NOTHING character up until Shadowbringers. Practically all of the Scion characters were until the better writers took charge.
>>736864396Louisoix for Cosmos rep and Nael for Chaos rep would be the most kino.
why are mmo threads always so weird.
dead game
>>736864601they're made by schizos who hate the game, not by people who actually play them
>>736864654dead games don't get dedicated shitposters :)
>>736864348>>736864076>>736863235>>736862730>>736861945>>736857650>>736858635>>736857289what's the point of these posts? why do they plague at least 80% of xiv threads?
please post xiv npc girl art and screenshots
soon
>>736864860The trannies left playing this game can't fill up a thread with actual discussion because there's nothing to do in the game.
>>736864975i hope we have sex with her
>>736864975>>736864909>>736865082again, why?
>>736865082Only if Calyx gets to watch
>>736865090>why are you posting pictures about the game and talking about the game herehuh?
>>736864975Sauce
>>736865090nigga acts like this isnt bog standard for literally every thread on this sitefuck off back to wherever you came from retard
>>736865060Oh yeah, this is like 7.5. How is the new Eureka/Bozja zone with the FFV jobs? Did it ever get unfucked so casuals can actually play it or is it still made for the Discord cabals?
>>736865198Shut the fuck up with this avoidant argument bitch. I'm addressing the elephant in the room.
>>736865208allegedly in 7.5 it will be but, i find the mode to be incredibly shallow even outside of the dungeon
>>736865208>How is the new Eureka/Bozja zone with the FFV jobs?It's pretty shit. The second zone is still months away so we'll have to see if it improves.>Did it ever get unfucked so casuals can actually play it or is it still made for the Discord cabals?It's heavily nerfed just because of the second set of jobs that was introduced but you still need to organize on discord.
>>736865231You're addressing how much of a fucking tourist retard you are
>>736865301Maybe open your fucking eyes for once instead of being a fucking sheep. BAAAAAAAA
Waiting patiently for 8.0 so I can step over the literally pos that is dawntrail.
>>736865342actual youtube comment tier post
>>736865397How would you know? You put your head down and allow people to shit all over you.
>>736864737>schizos who hate the game>people who actually play themthe addictive nature of MMO game design results in a significant amount of players who are dissatisfied with the game and yet are unable to quit. the "schizos who hate the game" most likely play it too. People like to pretend FFXIV is designed differently but it's not exempt. It's like stoners talking about how weed isn't addictive. Sure, it's not as bad as heroin (WoW) but it's still habit-forming.
>>736865624doing my duty
The Raiding experience>2-4 hours of your week wasted on this bullshit when you already work 8 + 2 hours commute 5 days.>Bobbert and Barbara isn't on so you have to flex>Flex keeps hitting on Raid Leader's GF (raid leader is obviously white and raid leader gf is a teasing fat asian chick)>Flex gets kicked out despite him being the best performing member>ALWAYS every night there's drama with the asian chick>Flex is a fucking creep>you either have 1-2 actual retards in your group (some sort of disability)>they keep fucking up>you're too late in finding a new group, you're just going to have to suck it up buttercup and then see them mess up get the tethers every fucking time....>"ok so this loot will go to A,B,C,D and then E">"loot goes to C">"ohhhhh sorry fucked up and mixed the weeks my bad anon">C is the worst performing member of the group>you'll always have a zesty fucker ALSO always creating drama and every week it's some sort of "our flex" / "our temp member" is being homophobic or treating me badAm I missing anything else?
>>736852976She cant be interesting if the writers don't write her well. A character IS the writing. If it's bad, the character is bad.
>>736866171I enjoy my raid group. They're all nice people and fun to play with. But my raid experience is just me learning the mechanic after two or three pulls and then waiting two weeks for the rest of them to get it.
Ok lads I'm right now as I type this on my toilet taking a shit. What type of Final Fantasy 14 news is there right now that you can give me which is up to date on the game?
>>736866256most of my raid groups don't get it until 2 months (oh god I remember black smokers and the phoenix mechanic in endwalker or whatever) and I always feel the sunk cost and stay with them but the stupid drama gets me to leave sooner than later.
>>736866365It's over.
>>736866365we're so back
>He didn't do the secret questline
>>736864860>whats the point of posting art on an image boardidk
so what did you do in final fantasy xiv today?posting pictures of ryne and shitposting don't count
>>736866671I didn't do anything>shitposting doesn't countDoes that include if I'm literally taking a shit and posting?
>>736866671i posted pictures of Ryne and shitposted- ah darn
>>736866237Dude, next time try knowing something about what you are talking about before you reply to me and stop wasting my time with your negative IQ takes. Thanks.
>>736866760feel free to post more though
>>736866671I'm almost done with the MSQ on this free trial account
>>736866760dick sucking lips
>>736866494you should be able to impregnate both sisters
>>736865301>>736865342the irony
>>736862730>>736863235>>736866760it is my right as a white man to impregnate these teens
>>736866671so what do you notice first about this?
Id be a little sloppy,but can you blame me?
>>736862730We all do bro, we all do...
>>736868282Toes!
>>736852285Not even the best cat in her own game.
>>736868669Replace pat with plap.
>>736868747and then change gently with violently
>>736868547>Not the faux cunny
I'll never forgive SE for taking Ryne away from us, she should have been the new scion not G'raha.
see? This is what happens when you don't tell these people to fuck off
>>736869278She's joining for Winterwolves.
>>736868547based
These in-game model anons are just as bad as the OC people.
>>736869827seething schizo
>>736869976I'm not spamming threads with garbage
>Twins leave in the last patch>New patch has the twins in the artSo it's all but confirmed were leaving and going back home, guess square finally realised they fucked up bad.
>>736869827What did you do in Final Fantasy today?
>find out there's a weg parody being made>to no surprise, it's super gay
>>736870221>Banner_v4.pngBuy an ad.
>>736870221I played it it's bland and boring.
>>736870294nah that's straight from the fag95 zone pagemost of them are named this way
>>736870076>alphinaud heals a never ending fire from a ancient tural vidrall a miracle>puts a shield on old roegadyn man explorerHe did good! alisaie is a pig and didnt do shit and keeps getting freebies. WHERE THE FUCK ARE ESTINIEN, THANCRED, AND URIANGER? what an awful paced shit msq. fire hiroi
>>736856105More importantly the 2nd most words.
I hope the next relic step is a less painful grind
>>736870420so true xister, I too would love to finish my grind quickly and not have a reason to log on to the game again ASAP!
>>736870325it looks pretty bland, most of these parodies do, banking on the parody itself to rake in an audience rather than making a good gamebut looking at the previews it looked more gay than anything
>>736870420I hope it's so painful it takes the entire year before 8.0 to finish.
>>736863041Yes it seems Quantum was a failure. Everyone who actually got to it just went immediately to the hardest difficulty and progged it just like any other savage raid.
>>736870420Really wish they went back to Shadowbringers style, where you don't need so many fucking tomes for them.
>>736870221I introduced /v/ to this weg a long time ago and I can prove it. I was the first to post a screen cap of the game here it is you can look in the archive for it. It's also not a gay weg, you can chose a male or female MC and chose if you want male or female only relationships. You can literally chose to be straight or gay and you chose gay.
>>736870719>it's not gay if i imagine i'm a girl while i suck estinien's dick
>>736852285yoship better introduce a new hebe race or 8.0 is dead in the water
>>736870420The last step should exclusively be done through OC, I don't know what they were thinking making it the least efficient method for the two steps that it can be used for
>>736870779You can chose to be a male and fuck Yshtola. But you chose to be a female and get fucked by Estinien. I'm proud of you coming out my man.
>>736870719>picah so it's a cuck gamethat's kind of worse
>>736870420whats painful about it. too casual for the casual method of acquiring a good weapon?
>>736870928It’s spite from the outrage over the EW relic. They still think the community was wrong for that and the manderville relics were awesome. So they essentially made the same relic step but tried to obfuscate it to make it seem different.All of OC really feels like it was being made at gunpoint. There’s like no heart put into it whatsoever.
>>736871191quick, no one tell him tomes have been part of the relic steps since the beginning
>>736871324You know what I mean dumbass
whats painful about it. too vague for the vague method of acquiring a good post?
>>736872317Why did you forget to reply to the guy?
Venat did nothing wrong.
>>736870325OG alphi-poster wouldn't have played it
>>736872580Why did they feel the need to giga-kill her? Do they hate the players?
>>736872745Ishikawa killed genocide mommy as revenge for yoship making her kill genocide daddy
>>736872841japanese people are so weird.
>>736872745Female writer, women don't like competition.Hiroi killed of Nophica because he's a fag.
>>736872918but at least Nophica is not giga-dead, right? She and the others will reincarnate normally?
>>736872745Ishikawa hates females and killed off most of them.
>>736872745The players don't give a shit about Venat, only a handful of twitter secondaries do.
>>736873001The souls of the original Twelve were consumed to summon Hydaelyn. She only splintered off little fragments to conjure the Twelve afterwards. They're dead along with Venat.
Do jannies not exist? This is just a xiv general
Everyone loved Venat, only trancerfags hated her because their monumentally retarded head canon turned out to not be correct.
>>736852285she's be really sad if she could read this
>>736873102That quest line is still so weird. Did we know if Hiroi wrote it?Krile and G’raha just deciding to not tell the world about such a massive revelation about their religion seems kinda out of character, especially after what the wol did in HW. And now it’s really awkward when characters talk about praying to the twelve, like bro we killed them, become atheist already.I know the status quo MUST be preserved since it’s not MSQ, but it could’ve been handled a lot better.
>>736873141There are like 20 different stealth generals up right now sis.
>>736873102I don't get why they chose to introduce the twelve, for whomst existence we had no evidence until that point, just to giga-kill them off. Its all so pointless
>>736873151You only like her because she’s hot and canonically worships your cock, not because she’s an actually well written character.
>>736853101Possibly worst writing in the game
>>736873343She's not even hot in the game. She's an awkwardly shaped bean pole. That's why these people who claim to love her only post off model fanart or modded screenshots that give her a shapely body.
>>736852516trannies like Graha, Ishlotta is for normal man
>>736873347What about the scene where a casino owner tells a queen why charity only hurts people and better things aren't possible?
>>736853478remove all non-lalafell races
>>736873726He says that "using the taxpayers money to fund refugees over your own people is a bad idea" which is undeniably true.The solution- being wagies for Lolorito- is retarded but using Uldahn money on Ala Mhigan refugees who are moving back to Ala Mhigo is more retarded.
I've heard stuff about tome gear upgrades in 7.5, whats the deal with thatis it just the augmented stuff without needing to do savages
>>736873913yes same as all odd-number patch tomegear always.But until 7.55/56 you'll only get 1 xi raid coin a week for augments.
>>73687391324 man raids drop coins which can be exchanged for upgate mats for tome gear from the patch before. Its been a thing since ARR.
>>736873863>The solution- being wagies for Lolorito- is retardedHe's just an investor giving them the foundation to restart a major industry for their own nation. When the money from selling salt starts flowing around they can all be wagies for their own companies instead. They can even just start their own salt operation.
>>736873913golly, I don't know retard! the same shit they've done for years? better ask here and not a google search!
>>736873726>>736873863He's also by far the most successful Mhigger in existence and has done more charity work for his retarded people than anyone else. The entire reason he even started a casino was to give them jobs.
>>736874247Godbert's a Highlander but he's not Ala Mhigan.
>>736874275doesnt matter the mandervilles are aliens anyway
>>736874275Don't reply to me cutscene skipper.
>>736874362Go on and show me what cutscene I skipped that says he's Ala Mhigan, lorelet.
How do I find an actual good static both in personality and in performance?
>>736874405You need to have both a good personality and performance first.
>>736866171stop being gay, anon. that shit is cringe.
Post more Alphinaud
>>736874793more Alphinaud
Y'shtola's superiority keeps people with poor taste seething I see.
>>736875056All you have to do is put a tripcode on. It's super simple.
>>736874247Jobs wearing skimpy outfits to lure degenerate gamblers into his money-printing machine. Exploitation piled on top of exploitation. That kid's going to spend his life in those silver mines.
>>736874394nta, but Gobert is 100% Ala Mhigan and came to Eorzea back when Theodoric was still in charge. It might be in a lore book or side story, but I know its said somewhere.
>>736875464>willingly enters a Y'shtola thread to get angry at people posting herYou have such a sad life lmao
>>736875648You don't know how? I can teach you.
>>736852285Well her ether vision is killing her. They have to be careful otherwise she might croak.
I just like brown catgirls.
>>736875648I bet he applies for every janny application only to get rejected.
I want to make lots and lots of love with Y'Shtola
Her hair is surprisingly difficult to draw. Also hope next expansion isn't shit. If they ruin Ilsabard like they did with the New World, that'll probably forever kill my interest.
>>736876035Ilsabard is based on a first world continent so it’s ok to make it interesting.
>>736876035>Ilsabard ?
>>736876125It's either that or the void, based on where 7.5 is going. And I don't think the void can carry an expansion
>>736876178Its the 1st+13th. We're going to be dropping void islands into the empty with the key.
>>736876035What do you think about Ilsabard?
>>736876120anon we went to islabard.garlemald and radzathan are categorized under islabard on the teleport menu
>>736876343What for? Eden raids already fixed the First.>>736876451That was 20% of Ilsabard.
>>736876505>Eden raids already fixed the First.The 1st is like 90% desert. Eden will take 100s of years to actually fix it.
>>736876505>>736876120>>736876125>>736876178>>736876343>>736876607Why does this happen to characters beloved by the entire community? Do you have anything interesting to add to the OP?
>>736876442I'd just love to explore Dalmasca and the place G'raha is from. As they're neighbors of garlemald, I imagine it could get fucked up and wartorn. Garlemald was one of my favorite bits from Endwalker.>>736876634What are you even on about?
>>736876035Is Stormblood THE expansion? Doma doesn't compare.
>>736876035Based drawfag.
>>736876634We're literally talking about the fate of everyone's favorite fedora tipping waifu though.
It’s gonna feel pretty unsatisfying that we spent 2+ years baiting us with this key only to get another expansion of just dicking around in Eorzea.Like I wouldn’t mind uncovering the map some more but it’s not where the story is building towards.
>>736876817Don't remind me, I'm still mad about Ala Mhigo getting cucked for japanese autofellatio.>>736876882Thank ya, it was a good excuse to practice
so what did you vague on /v/ today? posting pictures of ryne and shitposting don't count
>>736876178could see it being a mix of both with the main enemies being a bunch of GARLEAN PRIDE WORLDWIDE niggas using voidtech and reaper style soldiers
would they show new character customization stuff at first fanfest?
>>736876607Yeah you're right anon, we should definitely go back to the EMPTY. There sure are lots of things to do and to see in the EMPTY. I'm certain the EMPTY will have loads of content waiting for us, in the vast plains of the EMPTY.
>>736877805Old ruins and environments uncovered from the light crystals would be cool, yeah.
>>736876035>orginal shtola contentBless
>>736877750no but they will show 40 minutes of lala cheek pixelsplease clap
>>736869278the entire point of Dawntrail was to find a stable gate so they could come up with a legitimate reason to bring Ryne and Gaia over to the main gang.
>>736877805>Void is interesting but incredibly samey aesthetically since its all floating islands in darkness>The First is very popular, but has no other areas to explore since its 90% light desert>Get mcguffin that lets you fuse shards togetherSurely even a brainlet like you can see something so obvious right?
>>736878294>the entire point of Dawntrail was to solve a problem that was solved two expansions ago for people who actually do side contentHaha...
>>736878384>completely forgotten and ignored>even go to the void without them
>>736878384Side content released between main expansions is non canon.
>>736878379Yeah, we most definitely will not be using the mcguffin to travel to any of the other shards where things may be happening, we will be using it to go back to the first and pretend Shadowbringers and Eden didn't happen
>>736878379just keep the time dilation thing happening and have like a year or two pass in the first and have the empty full of new shit.
>>736878724That will still happen. You're getting adult gunbreaker Ryne whether you like it or not.
every raid series should be made mandatory
>>736878821The scions haven't aged in over ten years, Ryne isn't going to magically age between endwalker patches and 8.0 lmao
>>736878863fr
>>736879253anon you are not allowed to post that image!
>>736879253Oh cool I'll use this to train my local ai
>>736879286>>736879440the fuck takeshi gon do?
>>736878379Void was interesting when it was more Geiger influenced and less gothic castles everywhere
>>736879554Its going back that direction a bit at least in 7.5.
>>736866671>so what did you do in final fantasy xiv today?The same thing I do in XIV every day: PVP
>>736879708I don’t know how they’re gonna make a void focused story when 6.5 pretty much wrapped up all the conflict over there
umautists lost, generals belong on /vg/
y'all niggas see that shit about a WoW abuser basically enslaving another WoW abuser by threatening to expose him if he didn't become a craft-slave
She was robbed.
>>7368799836.5 took out the only known player with a plan in golbez, there's an entire dimension still of extraordinarily powerful beings with their own agendas
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>>736879983It'll probably only be this patch and 8.0 will focus on whatthefuckever The Withering is and what the Winterers intended to do.Neither points towards the void I don't know why everyones in such a huff thinking its a void expac coming.
Y'shtola dies a virgin ;_; No Y'shkids left behind ;_;
>>736880229Because we're white and are therefore capable of basic pattern recognition.
>>736878125Happy to provide. Used to visit drawthreads on here and /vp/ too but it got to the point that the first half of a page was bot requests and I just couldn't be assed to scroll for the real requests or cool art. Though granted I also have less time now.
>>736864073Y'shtola makes more appearances than just Dissidia since she's the selected representative.Don't forget that Zenos is selected as the villain representative.
>>736880276sure but we spent all of 6.1->6.5 dealing with the voids heavy hitters besides CoD/Exdeath and now Enuo is a trial this patch.
>>736853478End it.End FFXIV, start a new MMO with better coding, much much better character creation, and treat it like a fresh start while allowing for fan favourite characters to make small appearances.This will never happen.
>>736880474With 14 and even 11 making such great strides in becoming single player games I really can't see Square doing another mmo while still keeping both 11 and 14 servers active.
>Log in on the last free weekend>FC is totally offline>Friend's list is totally offlineI don't remember how to make new friends who aren't groomers.
>>736880385>Forgetting about one of 14's most recurring villains
>>736880651Didnt he get totally evaporated by Cait Siths dildo at the end of dun scaithe? It's been 4 expacs I don't think Diabolos is coming back.
>>736880474>make another MMOretard>while allowing for fan favourite characters to make small appearances.giga retard
>>736880736>4 expacshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr_s8Mm0amM
>>736880569I can't see them doing it sheerly because that would be repeating THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE that caused FFXIV to flop in the first place, necessitating a once-in-a-lifetime reboot
>>736880873he wasn't in that
>>736880229roe vikings in the north is one of the two locations
You need to accept these facts if you wish to maintain inner peace.>8.0 will not save the game>8.0 story will not evoke the interwoven and grounded feeling of ARR-SB, nor will it evoke the epic and heroism of SHB-EW>8.0 will not change the dull repetition of gameplay that involves pushing your big boy button every minute or every two minutes>8.0 will not involve Yshtola as a central person and she will remain on the sidelines barely being a character>8.0 new jobs won't be interesting beyond their aesthetic, at best>FFXIV glory days happened before the big SHB player spike, if you started after 5.0 you missed out completely and nothing the devs do will change this, not even classic XIV servers
>>736855124I never liked her
>>736880919I've made peace with the fact that everybody begging for one expansion to singlehandedly save the game is burnt the fuck out, blaming it on the game itself, and ultimately is asking for a rebootThisexactshithappenedwithWoW
>>736880873Yeah all hail the king of who cares side content. Diabolos will never be main content.
>>736881019Remember when 6.X was supposed to be a soft reboot? And then they pushed it back to 7.0? And then they started saying 8.0 was the start of a fresh, new arc?
>>736881092> 8.0 will be new arc!> villains are a guy from big techie empire and an ascian> like allag> or garlemald> new
>>736880919>don't care>grouping the game like this allows you to notice that there's only 1 good expac in each >shb started that by the way>Yshtola sucks and should have been killed off in EW>same as every job made after HWWhat's your point exactly
>Arthars got cancelledWe did it sisters, another XIV chudcel DESTROYED!
>>736880907Diabolos' are just a type of generic higher tier voidsent like the angel sineaters. Ones been stuck in that robot for centuries. This is canon lore written by Hiroi.
>>736881092>remember when players made up an entire headcanon for what the game was going to be doing multiple times
>>736881160Good on them for realizing that was a bad idea and rushing to endgame like a Russian down mid is for losers
>>736881160>This piece of content will be new>look inside>its not new contentSasuga, Yoshida.
>>736881216Are we both thinking of him announcing he wasn't going to Fanfest because he's not fond of the outrage addicts he's helped foster, or did he do something new and even dumber than that
>>736881216He's gotten cancelled like 4 times already. XIV community can't hold their own values for a minute because everyone wanting him gone would immediately kill their dog to be on his week-1 raid team. The whole community is full of attention whores would want a leg up in any way possible be it raiding, gposing, becoming an XIV twitter personality. Back in the day the worst of it was basically concentrated in /vg/'s XIV threads, but since SHB it exploded everywhere.
>>736881382You say this and yet Zepla's viewerbase has completely dried up (like her eggs) ever since she had that TOP meltie
I curse every single North American GM who is currently active, has been active, and who plans to be active in game's foreseeable future. Fuck the game masters. I hope each and every one of them dies a slow, agonizing, miserable, premature death. May they never sire offspring, may they never know a peaceful night's sleep, may water never slake their thirst, may the grandest of banquets never sustain their hunger, and may they never know a modicum of love or companionship for the rest of their reprehensible lives. Fuck GMs, fuck the vagaries of the the ToS, fuck their borderline unethical and illegal policy in not telling you exactly what you did to garner a suspension or a ban, and fuck this industry for allowing them to get away with it. Fuck the Burger Kings, fuck this community, fuck these double-standard-pushing hypocrites who will harass, harangue, and harry you with impunity but not even receive a slap on the wrist. May these crony degenerate fucks never feel even a sliver of contentment for as long as they live. I curse their entire line to die out so they may never taint the human gene pool again. Blatant favoritism, cliques, and mob rule supersede any actual objectivity impartiality with these cock-sucking faggots. Square-Enix is literally allowed to steal years of your time and money and they don't even have to offer proof or the reason why they did so. Two nukes were not enough.
>>736881442Oh come on, we all know it wasn't because of TOP but a certain other thing that occurred during that period of time. The other part too is that Zepla just didn't do anything in the game besides make joke videos. Arthars is always grinding the hardest content so people have a reason to throw their morals out if it gets them a raid advantage.
>>736881561>t. posted "KILL ALL NIGGERS AND TRANNIES" 50x in NN on his main account
>>736881689No. I left a raid because I was getting harassed as a MT by the entire alliance. I was reported for leaving early.
>>736881736>I was reported for leaving early.No you weren't.
great community btw
>>736881736doubt.jpg
>>736852285stealth uma thread
>>736881882>>736881780I never fucking curse or use any offensive language or rhetoric in chat. I know that 90% of your degenerate woke karens would report anyone if they even slightly triggered your gay LGBTQ ERPing in Limsa. And I know what happens to people who throw around "fuck" casually in shout chat. All it takes is one loser with a chip on his shoulder to report, and that's all it takes. It wasn't me shouting "nigger" in chat, my dude. They said it was "obstruction." Whatever the fuck that means. And seeing as how I know I never purposefully killed any player with an AOE or anything of that nature, I can only surmise it was me leaving mid instance.
>>736882224maybe don't be a nazi next timeactually there won't be a next time, get out nazi
>>736882328Hi plebbit
>>736882224Last time I saw posts like this the guy had named himself "Gazzthe Kykes" and was swearing up and down to /v/ and to the GM that forced a name-change on him that it was completely innocent
I really hope 8.0 isn't The Void again after 6.X already put a lid on it. XIV is starting to feel like the Star Wars sequels at this pace.
>>736882462Pretty sure you made that up.
>>736882462Funny, because you can look up "Gazzthe Kykes" on the archive and the only posts you'll find are exactly like this one, some retard swearing up and down that this event totally happened. But strangely the original post you're claiming happened isn't there at all. Isn't that weird?https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/gazzthe%20kykes/It's almost like you're making shit up.
>>736882856Uh oh you posted an archive link now it’s time for the vague post schizo meltie
>>736882680>>736882856https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/560683881/#560684539here it wasanon was mistaken and wrote "gazzthe" not "gazthe"notably he is a "FUCK NIGGERS FUCK TRANNIES" retard
>>736882947I stand corrected.
>>736852285I personally can't wait for Zenos to come back and have funny autistic shenanigans with Zero
>>736882989Zenos returning would be the biggest red flag the MSQ has ever had, it was already bad enough that Emet's final words weren't given a second to settle before they shoved him in everyone's faces but Zenos returning would be like 20 Wuk Lamats
Zenos will return.Emet will return.Venat will return.Elidibus will return.Everyone will return when we go to the Exarch timeline and it will be pure SLOP.
>>736883092Zenos should have survived and become Majima poking his head out of barrels in random alleyways and shit for surprise boss fights, but I agree that since that didn't happen bringing him back for fanservice would be utmost hackery
>>736883092bad fan service is still more tolerable than whatever the fuck DT’s MSQ wasbut it’s still not the right path, I agree
>>736883134*summons Tupsumati to my hand*Scions....assemble.
>>736882947Fuck me that was 3 years ago?
>>736883202five!
>>736883092very true that would mean Daichi Hiori is somehow still in charge because Zenos sucked so hard and the whole Story was ass
>>736883092Zenos will only return as a cameo as part of the inevitable LB4 that summons all your dead friends to do an attack.
>>736883236You now realize that 8.0 is being written by MaehiroWe’re so fucked
>>736883201Please no. God the MCU has been a blight upon contemporary "creatives".
>>736883328What did he write before?
>>736883361Heavensward and FFXVI, one kino and one slop.
>>736883278That would be ok. I don't even have a problem with seeing the Emet/Solus clones in Garlemald if we ever do that desu, mainly because that was already established as a thing years ago.
>>736883389He also wrote ARR
>>736883357It's literally going to happen, the next step after shards is the actual multiverse, and that was already touched a bit in SHB. It's the easiest, surefire way to get everyone's favorite character one last time for a big finale.
>>736883357>>736883460Didn’t yoship say in an interview he was interested in a multiverse story? It was the same place where he talked about the shogun battle in hingashi iirc
>>736883389>>736883431We need to accept the uncomfortable truth that 2.X was good writing and 3.X was better writing than 3.0, where the only highlight is what happens after you finish the moogle side quest up until the vault.
>>736883361heavensward, which, while good, is heavily criticized now for having Ysayle be an Echo user who gets killed off in the same expac that kills off Minfillia, undoing the entire Bloody Banquet with only Raubahn actually suffering for it at all (Nanamos alive, every scion is alive, yshtola gets off scott free for precious little effort), and just general pacing issues.I believe hes also credited with Werlyt which is polarizing and much of 16 being just FF4 but worse.
>>736883534What does your image have to do with your post?
>>736883583Werlyt was someone who worked on DT, Yoshida said that DT was by Hiroi, the person who did the Pixie beast tribe quests, and the person who did Sorrow of Werlyt
>>736883692ah. So just hw and 16 then.I coulda swore maehiro did something else important
>>736883534watch out! that crewmate is a kafir imposter!
>>736883092He died with a thought on his lips in a place where emotion and willpower shape reality. Some part of him will be around.
>>736883858He may have done something in SB before being fully committed to 16 but I think he was already on the 16 team before SB released.
>>736883778These comics are nauseating.
>>736883970Yeah Maehiro was deported to FFXVI during/after HW along with a lot of other then-top FFXIV alumni
>>736883970Maehiro played the same role in SB as Ishikawa did in DT. “Story advisory” but in reality they didn’t do shit.
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>>736859985>how would you ironically fire Yoshiwith a gun
>EW rushes to finish any shred of potential plotline the game still had>already walking it back with the 13th becoming a threat again despite that having close in post-EWGuess they realized how retarded of an idea EW wrapping up everything for no real reason was. Just watch, The Twelve will be revived in 9.0.
>>736884593>The Twelve will be revived in 9.0.I wouldn't be against this. Killing them off was retarded.
>>736884653I wouldn't either, but unless there's a very good reason to return to the void, if that's even where 8.0 is going, everything about post-EW reeks of the writers not knowing anything about their own setting on top of being unable to establish plot threads of their own. If this is true, and we find out in two weeks, it really will go to show that XIV stood on the shoulders of 1.0 world building.
>>736884825I mean 7.0 made that obvious imo
>>736884653The Scions will become the new 12. It's an obvious progression of events now that most of them don't have any character arcs left. Shtola, Thancred, Uriangier, Estinien, The Twins, Graha, Kryle, Lys, Wol and Tataru will become the new pantheon. Setting the stage for a major reboot of XIV or a new game entirely.
>>736884653INTRODUCING THEM was retarded, not killing them
>>736884892Everything after SB kinda does, but at least SHB and EW are dressed up as the finale to Hydaelyn and Zodiark. Tural was hinted at for a while, as was Radz-at-Han, but neither exactly feel like they belong in the world they were originally conceived. >>736884948Lyse isn't a scion anymore though, it would have to be Hoary Boulder. The god of gaping horny highlander women.
>>736884948we want FFXIV to end like homestuck????
>>736876898Sex with autistic voidsent women
>>736880172You need to get a better bit. You can't run with this for months on end.
>>736885183It's nice of Golbez's wife to let the WoL warm her lap for husband's lovemaking.
>>736884593What does this AI slop post have to do with the OP?
>Tempering can be easily cured, actually>Primal summoning is explicitly taught by Ascians, actually /v/ won't admit it but these two things did the most damage to XIV's story. Primals were the big gimmick of the setting, by defanging and removing Primals as a naturally occurring threat SE essentially ripped out the soul of the game.It's on the same level as revealing that Warhammer 40k's Warp was just heckin' evil because of a single bad guy and killing him would make it all a pleasant dreamy afterlife forever and ever. That's fucking cringe.
>>736885331>monthsAnon it has been years since DT released, we only just got over the zodiark trancers. They're still lurking all social media, too.
>>736885097>h*mest*ckNTA but please refrain from using such evil and abominable language, there are many traumatized anons on /v/
>>736885097I don't want it to. But at this point it's what it deserves.
>>736885489REMEMBER USREMEMBER THAT WE ONCE LIVED
>>736885443Abel, what?
>>736885082>Hoary Boulder cucks Lys from divinity>None of the new 12 are Ala Mhiggers
>>736885443Despite how WELCOME TO SHADOWBRINGERS XDD-core Ishikawa gets, the worlds were greatly defanged after SB. Yotsuyu being sold to a whore house and everything she did was the last ounce of that biting XIV reality. Everything after is very clearly defined forces of good who never struggle with temptation or wrongdoings vs very clearly defined forces of evil who are mean bags of dicks just because. It's all latte and heroes from then on.
>>736885379Golbez's wifeZero's a huge slut who fucked WoL, Y'shtola, and Estinien before setting with Golbez. She would have fucked Zenos too if he wasn't such a giga autist.
>>736884258based Sanjeet
Does it bother anyone that the story is trying to make the 8th Umbral era a story beat and XIV will end with the 8th Astral Era, when everything between the beginning of the 7thth Astral Era to the 8th Astral Era will have taken place in a year's time?
>>736884948Wouldn’t that go against the major humanist themes of the game? I mean not like they were ever consistent but they’ve at least tried to present it as such.
>>736886148Yes. Considering astral eras are supposed to last like thousands of years.
>>736885581Which is funny because Ishikawa said her goal with shadowbingers was to subvert common expectations of light being good a darkness being bad. She wanted the player to question those pre-conceptions by presenting a different situation.
>>736876898the buddy cop shenanigans will be insane. also will be insane when its just golbez and wol being weirdos.
>>736886383The story itself immediately deflates that idea anyways when you realize people only associated light with evil because Ardbert and co were too good at their jobs but it's the usual "muh blanace" shit you see in 99% of settings with light and dark elements. There's no real depth to it, nothing the overabundance of light does differently from overabundance of darkness. If you set SHB on the void and your reward for finishing a zone's MSQ was bringing daylight to the land, people would have the exact same reactions to bringing back the night sky.
>>736886307They only last thousands of years because of how the Ascians were timing calamities, astral eras themselves are only measures of when the last Calamity happened
>>736880873matsuno is such a hack. hiroi too.
garlenigger larpers and tranny zenos fans will never get to gloat over "savages' every again.
>>736886826>GAWDsunoFFT, beloved gameVagrant Story, beloved gameFF12, beloved gameBozja, beloved side-content>Cuckroi|SB BRD quests, suck mhigger criminal semen and watch yshtola get breeded by mhigger criminals to hide their warcrimesPandaeborium, worst XIV raid tier ever madeWoketrail, dumb piece of shit garbage MSQ that killed the game
>>736886997ff12>unfnished slop>bozjaunfinished slop cut off earlyMATSUNO FAGS ARE PATHETIC.
>>736886991Twin what the fuck are you saying? The next ultimate is the mega ascian zenos memberberry ultimate that will make DSR look well thought out.
>>736886997>to hide their warcrimesmany years later and this criticism of the plotline is still fucking retarded
>>736852734I think Y'shtola is grossly overrated but there are so many bad female characters in XIV that she is nowhere near the bottom. Fucking Lyse man. Or the total waste that was Yugiri.
>>736887092It's literally LITERALLY covering up mhigger epstein class because there's a heckin war going on.
>>736887192it would literally LITERALLY compromise the ala mhigan resistance effort and eorzean attempts at help to let that info slip at that time
>>736887143>LyseLyse is an actual character. Her reactions are completely realistic for someone in her position, the only issue with her is that there was no reason for to not be Yda. They just did that for the fun of it, but it holds bearing whatsoever.
>>736887331>the ends don’t justify the means!>unless it’s ends we particularly care about
>>736874354No they're not, the alien bloodline died out and an adopted kid continued the Manderville name at some point in the past. Hildibrand and his family are just like that for some reason.
>>736887331>we need to cover up israel’s war crimes because if that info slips it could harm our efforts in the Middle Eastthanks Bush!
>>736887608>i NEED to be the biggest blabbermouth in all of eorzea and compromise everything currently happening because mommy told me to always tell the truththe fucking crystal braves have better op-sec than this
>>736887706What would even happen Oh the gridanians would be pissed, who gives a fuck really? They’re a bunch of crypto-fascists and by far the weakest of the three city states.>but the border protected by the elementals. they were never once in danger.
>>736887898>piss off one third of an already tenuously stable eorzean alliance>one third that's already really lukewarm on the ala mhigan expedition>because mommy said i need to tell the truthTHE MASTER TACTICIAN AT WORK
>>736887898Elementals aren't gonna do SHIT. Biggest nothingburger in XIV's setting, everyone is so afraid they'll be vaporized for disobeying some esoteric rule but then you have the elementals being big little BITCHES in the EW role quest where they can't even wipe their own figmental ass. Elementals aren't real, you can shit in the woods and no one would hear it.
thank u endwalker for turning elementals into pokemon
>>736888091When people say SHB and EW have good writing and that Ishikawa is a good writer, they mean they want to bang Emet and Graha and Zenos. They aren't talking about the actual plot or worldbuilding.
>>736887984a lot of this post is just headcanon. the alliance is presented as stable and patriotic because the writers didn’t want to bog the already full story of SB with inter-party conflict. the bard quest itself presents revealing the truth as a huge nothingburger. The only guy who cares is a direct descendent and by the end he is fully swayed into dying for Ala Mhigo. So revealing the truth one way or the other is pretty meaningless at the end of the day.Maybe it would be different if the writing was better, but it’s not. See XVI “I’ve learned to hate slavery in one quest chain despite relying on and abusing it my entire life!”
>>736888214>the alliance is presented as stable and patrioticnot in the slightest>the bard quest itself presents revealing the truth as a huge nothingburgerwe wouldn't be talking about this if it did>the writing is bad>also xviseethe
>>736887984you now open your media literate eyes and see the real life parallels to real regimes hiding information and exaggerating the crimes of their enemies in order to fuel political ends. see the war on terror and WW1
>>736886997You forgot the most beloved alliance raid series.
>>736888334I said FF12.
>>736852285Shtoler is a lil overrated imo, still likable tho
Why did they completely neuter the Garlemald storyline because of the Ukraine invasion? You think an autocratic regime doing something like that would inspire even more anti-imperial messaging from their stories but they completely pussied out and made the garleans dindus. Did they think Russia would win or something?
>>736852285Miqote or Viera sex?
How has this general been up on /v/ all day?
>>736888448They didn't, Garlemald was already shelved with SHB and they decided they wanted to fully capitalize on the huge player spike from the first couple months of SHB and end the MSQ immediately rather than gamble on one more expansion before the finale. The final boss of SHB was originally supposed to be Eden, not Emet.
>>736888574Matsuno must not have gotten the message until 5.5 given how abrupt the Bozja ending was.
>>736888661Most of that writing was done within the first year of SHB, before the first foray zone even released, so yeah it makes sense.
>>736863041That's a lot more than I thought it would have
>>736888574They made a weepy message saying something about world peace is why they’re not focusing on garlemald anymore.You’re right though, but it definitely is not a good look turning the garleans into dindos who were unfairly oppressed and driven into the frozen wastes when irl Putin was invading Ukraine for similar “historical” reasons (even tho it’s BS, that was his excuse).
>>736888661Matsuno was most likely given the boot because shit was dragging on
>>736888836Not really, it felt like Bozja ended pretty definitively with room for a great sequel story but then the final field note just completely burned it to the ground randomly, probably because yoship said that wasn’t the direction they wanted to take stories anymore.
>>736888901No as in shit was dragging on because he already had Ivalice and Bozja chaining off of eachother into a theoretical third thing with Ivalice as a starting requirement
>>736888813>turning the garleans into dindos who were unfairly oppressed and driven into the frozen wastesTHAT is your read of Garleans??? Here I thought they were characterized consistently as warmongering dick heads who had a flimsy justification for retaking Corvos and no justification at all for going beyond that
>>736888523XIV threads have a janny bias on /v/
>>736866671Turned on auto duty to level NIN through the dogshit level 60 content.
>>736888987We might as well put normal raids and alliance raids in MSQ given how nothing outside of MSQ will ever matter because of how the devs structured the game.
>>736889053Alphinaud says before you arrive in Garlemald, to a room full of eorzeans, domans, ala mhigans, dalmascan, and bozjans "we've all suffered for this war, none moreso than the Garleans"Yes the people who started everything suffered the most.You then capitulate to every whim the Garleans have and never once reprimand them for being colossally out of line.You even apologize to them in 6.4 for using the tower of babil because "erm, thats important to garlean history and culture!" nevermind them using and abusing every other civilizations historical monuments and relics for personal gain.
>>736852285I want to suck a fart out of her asshole.
>were putting together a team
>>736889323Alphinaud is speaking rhetorically about them being Ascian pawns and you're looking at the remaining ~30% of Garlemald's population that didn't get tempered and mass suicided, you're omitting an awful lot of context over everything here
>>736889265XIV players will really pay 15 bucks a month to not play the game.
>>736889323Obviously the best way forward is to breed further resentment.
>>736889449My sub is only 10 dollars.
>>736889387Speen is the only somewhat endearing one and even then I still hope she stays behind.
>>736889491Especially when they're so propaganda addicted that they believe magic isn't real or natural, and will sooner freeze to death in the snow than accept a mage's help
>>736889406>they were just tricked into electing a fascist leader and authoritarian government!Now where have I heard this one before?
>>736888091the elementals are and always have been a horrible plot device and the game trying haphazardly to woobify them while also powering them down and still not succeeding at making them interesting is testament to this
>>736889387>>736889518QUEEN SPHENESPEEN ON MY PEEN!
>>736889491Just do what we did to the Germans after WW2, easy.Just leaving them to their own devices but they’re fucking decimated and poor is how you get Hitler.
>>736889387aren't you forgetting someone
>>736889684We need another Hitler desu.
Maehiro did her so dirty.>>736889618QUEEN SPHENE, WON'T YOU LISTEN TO MY SPEENCH
>>736889684>Just do what we did to the Germans after WW2, easy.hired all the scientists that hadn't fled to the few south america or african countries that would have them?
>>736889720The American midwest is already full of psychotic meth addicts with bad facial hair
>>736888901matsuno dickrider cope. hes washed.
>>736889780Burn all their books, keep a close fucking eye on them, try all their leaders for war crimes, ensure they don’t go fucking insane with fascism again.
Now that the settlers have dusted, I'm glad we have all agreed that Arcadion > Alexander > Omega > Coils > Eden > Pandaemonium
>>736889387Gaia makes my pp so hard
>>736889387take out alisaie and my penis is erect
>>736890138this. alisaie is an awful character.
>>736890138>>736890170
>>736889828Oy vey and don't forget that he only had one testicle and hated animals and ate poop and cheated at jenga and voted republican!
>>736890308Don't look up what the Germans were using as "combat drugs" in that time period anon (spoilers it's just meth)
>>736852516you don't have to sign your posts on this website
>>736889730Maehiro has a weird relationship with female characters
>>736890534I'd legitimately call him a misogynist just going by his female track-record
>>736890534literal kuckold maehiro. ff16 exposed his ass.
>>736890564He's not. Pay enough attention and you'll notice he only hates high class women. Hookers and prostitutes and poor girls are all tough girlbosses who preach at you about why the rich are evil.
>>736890826Yeah buy Ysayle was closer to the middle-lower end of that. I'm not saying she deserved to get off scot free because she is painted as pretty wicked in ARR, but it was Maehiro himself who tones her down a bit in HW, and he still humiliates at every corner when the only one she deserved was Hraesvalgr telling her the truth and breaking her belief system.
>>736890826Even his girlbosses feel like they’re just written because he has to and not because he has anything interesting to do or say with them. Jill is the perfect example of this.
>>736891042Jill is high class though. The Dame is his special lady in XVI.
>>736891117Jill's a slave girl being used as a bioweapon for an anti-magic country that Maehiro fails to establish as any meaningfully different from any other Valisthean nation since they still send dominants out to do their dirty work
>>736891117Yeah and she sucks as a character and is the perfect example of his writing misogyny
>>736891230Jill is nobility from the northern territories and raised in Clive's house. The Dame is just a hooker. That's why he had Jill raped and then removed from the story.
I find it hard to believe that there's still not a fucking single female character that just openly admits they wanna bang WoLHero of the fucking star itself and yet somehow no one still gives a shit about them other than the scions and the nation leaders (who are always about business talk everytime they meet them)
>>736891278Jill's nobility literally does not matter for 99.99% of the story and doesn't erase her enslavement and lack of official status after Rosaria's fall>>736891302Do Fisher quests
>>736862129fucking fujoshit
>>736866671My 23rd perfect alex kill for yet another group of randos.
>>736891302Anon every women in the setting can smell the wol's autistic ass from the moon. They're not openly going to admit it because they know they're taking to a fucking wall about that topic. Nothing short of tempering or rape can get into the wol's pants and he's immune to the first one and traumatized about the second one due to one too many spiked drinks
My hot take is that the Nier alliance raid has some of the best writing in the game.
>>736852285Her and Urianger are the only Scions that matter, and the plot never advances unless one of them is on screen. If Y'shtola is not present, the plot is not advancing. The reason Dawntrail feels so stagnant is because Y'shtola does one thing, which is also the only time the plot ever moves forward, and then she immediately disappears again.
>>736891921NPCs describing you as a wall-eyed retard with a blank expression in the earlygame still kills me
>>736892052Tempered by hydaelyn
They should give you more dialogue options that allow you to actually express different opinions. Even if it leads to the exact same quests regardless. It just feels wrong sometimes to have this custom character just nod along to some of the absolute nonsense that happens in the plot.
>>736890534I hate women as much as the next guy but he's got problems.
>>736872745Hydaelyn is a god and she had to go. Only Venat would be autistic enough to spend the last of her soul on a dumb battle like a fucking druggie. Her getting giga killed is her own fault really. Suicide by WOL. Meanwhile Emet gets to slowly bake his immortal ass in the lifestream ancient elderly retirement home. His fat soul probably clogging the pipeline as he desperately tries to stay dead before the wol finds a way to call him back for more autistic adventures.
>>736892425Isn’t there the theory that Venat got reincarnated as that one holiday event kid?
>>736872745Female writer.
>>736892467I mean sure why not. Elidibus got used up like a empty toothpaste by the crystal tower and Athena and he still managed to find a way out of someone's cunt.Isn't it too soon to show these reincarnations though? Ancient souls unironically being too thick to dilute in the lifestream fast is an actual thing emet said I think
>>736892467That would require that she was reincarnated before she even died.
>>736892684>>736892717Time is very nebulous in the xiv universe, it pretty much operates entirely at the writers’ convenience, we still have no idea how much time has passed since ARR exactly.
why is bro called meteorthat's like calling yourself hiroshima nagasaki
>>736892572Suzaku can legitimate give the wol trouble If she ever finds out that she was spot on about the whole soul thing. Thankfully she's a dumb chickenThe other two aren't interested in sex with the wol. One is scarred to fuck and the other has big kouhai energy
>kill off ALL the primals>kill off ALL the ancients>kill off ALL the eorzean gods>do this in an attempt to start """fresh""">dawntrail gigaflops and turns xiv radioactive>SE comes crawling back to ancients and primals anyway
>>736893179His full name is meteor survivor.
>>736893203what is people's fucking deal with the twelve, nobody cared about them until they were dead
>>736893179He needed a name in the scenes for the Waning of the Sixth Sun recap so they called him Meteor Survivor.
>>736893203And the void.
>>736893260You* never cared about them because you're an endbryo and they're not Emet or Venat.
>>736893203and yet you'll never stop posting heresmelling the syrup every time
>>736893260it was just another potential plot point that was “wrapped up” in a retarded manner
>>736893203They're all gods by other names anyways. I'm still killing gods in lizard america. But i wanted more Focus on the big fuck you god animals like that eastern bunny and valigarmanda. For some reason they got sidelined so I could watch a blue lizard be retarded
>>736890138Hate that people keep trying to shoehorn her into everything.
pretty fucking hilarious that tural being completely solved just made it a barren wasteland for future contentno big bads looming over the horizonno political strife no loose ends to come back toin their effort to make tural as inoffensive and progressive as possible they doomed it. FOREVER.
>>736893601Uniting the content with Galool Ja sounds like it would be a much more interesting story than what we got, but I guess that was too close to “white savior” tropes
>>736893601there's so much of this corny shit in this expansion lmao
Y'shtola is the cutest girl in XIV!!
>>736893693This doesn't even make sense because Garlemald was removing borders by trying to conquer the world.
>>736893601Big Ligga's adventurer country should have been a rump state like mor dhona surrounded by warring independent turali countries and we're going there to stop a war or something from happening in the aftermath of the end timesI would not have written alexandria into the expansion
>>736893667wuk lamat needing an enforcer would have been more interestingkoana being more aggressive about eliminating tradition in the name of progress would have been more interestingzoraal ja contesting wuk lamat's coronation as he's the respected leader of the military would have been more interestingthinking on it, Koana AND Zoraal Ja teaming up with Alexandria would have been more interesting. especially if they were both fooled about the soul harvesting thing
8.0 is going to be environmentalist slop and branded the "FF7" expansion
>>736893601They did this with the first, too, if we're being honest. The only moral issue the people face is telling Eulmoreans needing to be nice to poor people, which they get over real fast anyways.
>>736893959Old Sharlayan got all of its fucked up parts sanded off, barely even mentioned. Instead of being rightly called out for all the fucked up shit they did in the past, instead we get Alisae whining that they’re not trying hard enough to save every single person alive? But even this forced drama gets resolved one quest later.
>>736893959The first's setting is simplistic but it serves the story it's trying to tell. It's no where near as gay and lame as tural
>>736893667Continent wasn't specified as united but Gulool Ja Ja was already in charge of an empire as far back as ARR's lorebook, don't think "we're the ones that unify Tural" was ever in the cards
>>736893851>>736893898Alexandria is just a very weird addition that seems half assed because it’s not connected to Tural theme wise. They could’ve very easily done a tradition vs progress theme or a commentary on colonialism. Instead we get “sphene as a reflection of wuk” which doesn’t even make any sense if you think about it. It’s not like wuk had to learn a lesson about loving your people TOO much.
>>736894092>Sharlayan sends assassins after you and leveva to stop actual astrology from leaking because they can't let that knowledge fall into the hands of the filthy continentals>you go there>no one gives a fuck you know sharlean astrology
>>736893797Gaius and Varis are probably the only people in the upper eschelons of Garlemald's government that actually believed in Garlemald reigning as morally just kings of the world
Why do Y'shtola threads survive the usual janny culling?
>>736894212Alexandria probably was designed and thought up way before Tural. Tural comes off as a very poorly planned attempt to attract a "global audience".
>>736894212>modern country dropping in on not-North America fights natives using guns and superior technology just to get nodiffed through the power of friendship and dragon-ex-machina
>>736894239That's besides the point. Conquering the world inherently means erasing borders because there's only one government as the goal.
>>736894304We’ll never know the full extent of the rewrites (or if there even was any) but I find it very hard to believe the barren “succession contest” was the original plan. Also the Endless stuff seems like a last minute commentary on AI.
>>736894346Nobody wants that, it's the worst possible interpretation of "world without borders."
>>736894330DT was so pussified that not even the invader cyberpunk military dystopia could be presented as just fucked up and evil.I still find it hilarious how S9’s robot police goes rogue and murders the population pretty much every patch meanwhile we’re hanging out with the fucking leaders, what a retarded city state.
>>736894384Endless are easy to read as AI but quite a lot of Hiroi's writing revolves around memories and their use to fill out or substitute a person, I think it's more AI bears similarities to Hiroi writing about Holy Shit Don't Turn Your Dead Relatives Into Chatbots That Run On Irreplaceable Resources
>>736894416Modern progressivism is just imperialism wearing a different skin.
>>736894464>invader cyberpunk military dystopia could be presented as just fucked up and evil.They are soul sucking vampires, by any metric they are evil. The writers just really wanted a modern tokyo adjecant cyber city, so no one in the game will ever bring that up.
>>736894471I think they just didn’t want to think of a new theme so he just copied EW again
>>736893601>>736893693>that Pilgrim's Traverse ending cutscene talking about leaving the church and its beliefs in the past
>>736894471its funny how the conundrum wasn't 'should we keep the past alive forever via this tech' but 'we should keep them alive but we can't because we're using people's souls as power for them'if they somehow powered living memory with other sources of energy, would the conflict have been solved?
>>736894530This line goes really hard if you're stupid
>>736894416...What? Garlemald wants that. It's the whole point.
>>736894384The succession plot could've easily been good and done the heavy lifting of the MSQ. The issue is Tural was written so bland that there are no real issues, no tests of mettle besides friendship is magic. "An ailing king tasking his children to tend to his kingdom and they discover things they did not know about him and themselves" is fairly compelling as a baseline plot.
>>736894580The crux of it requires you to forget that Dynamis or Ultima Thule exists, just like how EW required you to forget how time travel works in ShB, and just like how 8.0 will require you to forget about the many uses of electrope.
>>736894585This was in response to this screenshot >>736893693 calling the Empire retarded for being fixated on itself
>>736894628they're not comparable and you bringing it up every time isn't going to work
>>736894583Nerve struck. You want to compel behavior with an iron fist.
sphene!
>>736894628Sure bro let me go to the event horizon at the edge of the universe and plumb all its dynamis to power my machinery that can only run on souls, a specific energy wavelength of aether. This makes sense!
>>736894538I don't think he copied EW at all, Meteion making full recreations of dead civilizations as dynamis-based lifeforms so they can act as despair repeaters is a far cry from chatbots made from memory data running on souls for no purpose beyond an artificial afterlife because one kid had a chronic illness.
>>736894670>>736894706And to add to this, just like how ShB required you to forget how time travel worked in Alexander.It’s just a part of the games storytelling going back for years. They pretend as if it’s a deep interconnected story but it’s just a simple episodic adventure.
Remembird us... remembird that we once Smiled...
>>736894762they're both closed loops you retard
>>736894706As you must. You must be.A better man.
>2.X if it was written todayYou talk politely to the savage beast men and they agree to not summon their primal, you meet Aymeric in 2.58, after the banquet, after not needing to step foot in Coerthas the entirety of 2.X
>>736894583>actually spreading my monoculture across the world and enforcing it with a one world government isn't imperialism because uhhhh
>>736894761they’re both just “immortality is bad” just like how you could point out all the minute differences between amaurot, the dead ends, the lunar subterrane, and Alexandria, but they’re all still essentially the same dungeon using the same plot template.
>>736894828Meteion is a Hermes-inflicted punishment for immortality and callousness regarding death, Calyx's technology is an obsessive fear of death and selfish avoidance of it by placing others on the sacrificial altar
>>736894896>Meteion is a Hermes-inflicted punishment for immortality and callousness regarding deathHe should have just opened a cafe…
did she go too far here?
>>736894959i think they just wanted a hitchhiker's guide joke. i wonder who was behind it
>>736894762ShB took pains to say that G'raha's time travel actually altering time in a way that didn't dissolve himself was a special circumstanceAdditionally Alexander also had Shanoa present to ever-so-slightly nudge time into a best possible future, which isn't very different on paper
Hermes didn't know the entire universe was so fucking grimdark and literally ALL DEADActually, what's up with that? Why is the XIV universe so grimdark outside of one planet?
>>736894806ITS ALLIED SOCIETY CHUD
>>736895075Not everything is dead just a hell of a lot of it, and Meteion is responsible for some of thatOmega's questline goes more into it
>>736894979Nah she was simply able to read the room and realize Sadu and Magnai were made for each other.
>>736895075The Great Filter, plus after Meteion got blackpilled she was sending waves of despair in front of her that caused civilization in her path to die out, so she would only ever encounter more dead civilizations and get more depressed.
>>736895075cosmic horror. endwalker had a lot of horror elements to it, and its one answer to one of the biggest horror questions, whats scarier, there being others in the universe or there being none
>>736895075It needed to be dead for plot convenience, but also super hopeful and full of budding possibility once the plot was resolved because that would be too grim if it was permanent.
how did the ultimanians dodge the meteion doomwave
>>736895075so what’s the wol gonna do once eorzea reaches the levels of civilization that apparently inevitably lead to mass suicide? Is he gonna go all unabomber? Intentional calamity to reset technology? Harper equivalent?
>>736891302I distinctly remember a few sidequests where the character says the WoL is attractive and one or two drop hints that if the WoL asked to bang they'd be down. They were unimportant npcs in ARR and SB though, so unless you mean important characters, the WoL would have options.
>>736895289Eorzea's current civilization has ascended past the filter, which is why it was able to defeat meteion
>>736895367They’re more advanced than the ancients?
>>736894295Because Shtola's stern but loving gaze reminds everyone to discuss the game
>>736895467Emotionally, yes
>>736895282They lived in the dimension where Meteion did not exist, not I am not making this up.
re-reading comfy
>>736891302Dont half of the characters in the inn scene in ew allude to it? Like I think cat mom actually hits you with 'its cold tonight...'
>>736895490Well then ig immortality is fine then, given the only problem with it is that it sucks if it happens to be given to complete retards.
I like how XIV has all these musings about humanity being strong when it’s really just the wol being extremely OP due to being a reborn ancient with just more aether than anyone else being the reason the world is savedI also like how this exact same problem was repeated in XVI
mhiggers
>>736896010He would have failed in ShB too if not for rejoining with Ardbert.
>>736896010>>736896135and against Endsinger if not for the Scions lending us their strength.
>>736896010>ARR has a running theme about how dangerous it is to put all your faith into a single hero, or gods, or legends, and that everyone has to learn to work under their own power or they'll be fucked>EW just has WoL inherit the prayers of everyone to save the day
>>736895282The FF16 race?
