Steam achievements completion rate have convinced me that a good 25% of people that buy a game never boot it. How the fuck can you play djmax and have never failed a stage?
Steam's entire business model is being so convenient that they sell games to people that never intend to actually play it.
>>736853886>thinks steam achievements are accurate in anyway shape or formYou're a fucking idiot congratulations.
>>736854015Wrong Valve gets a hard on for people playing games. More playing games.>moar cards>moar hats>more ingame microtransactions>huge money for valveIdiot.
>>736854732Explain. How would they not be accurate?
>>736853886I just bought the new tower defense humble jewndle and will only play Affogato and Orcs must die 3Also, I redemeedsaaaar all keys/thread
>>736853886The real use for cheevos is highlighting autists who get upset about how other people use their time and money.
People pay like $3.99 for a digital game during a sale, intending to play it later, but most of them still haven’t played it even years later. That’s normal.For example, I’ve had games on Steam for years that I still haven’t played because I don’t have the time, so I don’t even buy anything during sales anymore....
>>736856048Then how come this happens even more on expensive games? Crimson Desert costs $70, but 23% of those who bought it did not complete the 30 minutes long tutorial.
>>736856349I'm having too much of a blast to rush through the game. I'm 6 hours in and haven't even left the settings screen yet.Speedruntranny please kys
>>736856349That’s normal. On the PS5, that figure is 81%. People buy games but don’t play them right away. It’s like buying a book when you’re already reading three others and leaving it on the shelf to wait its turn.What's strange is seeing games where only 20% of players have completed the tutorial or something like that, but that makes sense given what I said about people buying games at low prices and sometimes not even playing them.
> YOU MUST BUY GAMES TO SUPPORT THE DEVS> N-N-NO YOU MUST PLAY THEM AS WELL
People find buying video games more fun than actually playing them.99% of video games are fucking dogshit.
>>736854732wow you're so smart anon I can't believe there are so few that have noticed this very obvious thinghere's your cookie and pat on the ass
>>736853886"Achievement: Got Past the Title Screen" bullshit exists so it's clear who played the game at all. Seeing only 30% beat the last boss looks horrible, until you can see only 31% ever even started the game.
>>736855513SAM is used regularly by people to cheat in achievements so they're useless to figure out how many people actually clear games or do difficult achievements. It's also why Steam achievements are not cared about in any serious argument or discussion because you cannot prove you did it and didn't just use SAM whereas on consoles your whole account gets banned and sometimes even your console for cheating trophies and achievements. There's very few devs who have checks in place to prevent SAM from being able to pop achievements.Mods can allow you to unlock achievements significantly easier (Bethesda games are the poster boy for this) or just straight up act like cheats.Save back ups are significantly easier to do on PC and so is using other people's saves making it impossible to figure out if someone did it legitimately or not.Cheat Engine is not blocked outside of multiplayer games so you can do stuff like cheat in higher difficulties or just cheat in general without much issue allowing you to skip grinding or requirements people who legitimately go after it don't.I seem to recall on console it only counts you as owning the game if you boot the game whereas on Steam it counts if you bought it at all.There's a reason why Steam achievements don't matter to anyone.
>>736857138Okay but in this thread we are not seeing how many people finished a game. We are seeing how many did not start. You can't avoid achievements on Steam without going way out of your way to do so.
>put game on wishlist>it goes 90% off>not paying more than 20 dollars for a game out of principle so this works for me>make anon seethe and shit in his diaper because I haven't got to it yet
>>736857220As I said, Steam seems to count people who bought the game but didn't load it in the achievement list whereas on consoles it only counts you if you booted it. It's why you're typically 5-15% off on a lot of the early half of the achievements compared to consoles.
>>736857274Yes. This is what the thread is about, schizo
>>736857306and my response is replying to the numbers not being as accurate as on console. I'm just adding onto why these numbers continue to not be reliable in various ways.
>>736857359>the fact that steam counts people that bought the game but did not launch it is not reliable to see how many people bought the game but did not launch itThis is why people around you hate you to the point you have so much mental trauma that you have to attentionwhore in an anonymous board.
>>736856349Some of them could be refunds.
>>736857398Again, which is simply what I'm adding onto with the other points. If you want a specific reasoning here, there's also the fact that we don't know if privated accounts count towards the % or not. I'm sure that's a negligible amount of people who play the games but you could argue the same applies to people on console.
>736857530Didn't read. Tripcode filtered.
>>736853886>How the fuck can you play djmax and have never failed a stage?Not every gamer is shit like you are.
People were not given that many games as a kid and this lead them to hoarding all the game in the present.
>>736857274>Steam seems to count people who bought the game but didn't load it in the achievement listThat's not true, at least it only counts overall achievement completion when you have 1 achievement unlocked from a game.I checked my overall percentage after getting the first achievement in a new game and it did drop only after I got my first achievement.
>>736859559That might be true for the personal list but who knows. Everything about Steam's aggregation has been somewhat difficult to figure out. Thanks for checking though, it at least clears something up.
>>736857138You're talking about like sub 2% of people who are deranged enough to seek third party methods to get all achievements.
>>736859901It's not just SAM. It's using mods at all since they can trigger achievements. It's using Cheat Engine to do something like unlock a mode you're not supposed to have or skip grinding. It's using an old save you had after you bought the game on Steam which unlocked 50% or more of the achievements.I agree with you that SAM is a minority of users, no doubt, but it's all of these groups piling together that makes it impossible to trust any numbers that come out of Steam nor take anyone seriously for showing off Steam achievements as proof they did what they're saying they did. There's many more safeguards against this on consoles that don't exist on PC, and even if you do do any of these things your Steam account won't even get banned from anything whereas on console it's a full system or account ban because it proves you have a hacked machine or are using outside means in the case of save editors to break encryptions.
>>736853886>he can't even beat the easiest rhythm game ever made
>>736857274when calculating achievement percentages, steam only counts people who have launched the game at least oncepeople who own the game but have never played it are not counted
I have hundreds of games that I own due to $1 humble bundles, give aways or due to having played the game elsewhere but wanting to buy a steam copy to own it (if I had pirated) or wanted an accessible digital copy in case I want to replay it.If you are looking at game %s, you also have to account for the vast majority of games im which simple play only unlocks a small portion of total achievements.I only recently finished getting all the Sins of a Solar Empire II achievements because I never did tbe tutorials.
>>736853886>How the fuck can you play djmax and have never failed a stage?by not being trash...?
>>736860041every statistic is like thisevery single one
>>736860235Then I stand corrected.>>736860384Console lists have a negligible amount of cheaters because of it being borderline impossible on Xbox ever since the 360 and on Playstation because it requires you to either pay for a save editing service (Which you then need to learn and not screw up your unlock times which most people don't) or actively hack your machine and do the same thing. There's a much higher barrier of entry to do these things on consoles whereas on Steam (and other PC achievement clients) there is zero care about this. On console it's statistically irrelevant, but on PC it's relevant due to how much can be done with no stopguards. RetroAchievements has more value than Steam's achievements because there's guards in place to prevent cheating anything, and if you're found out you immediately get deplatformed.
>>736853886my backlog has almost 200 gamesI have maybe 100 more that I got for free or in bundles and won't play
Post 'em.
>boot it you "boot" an OSyou "launch" or "open" a game learn to talk retard
>>736853886I bought DMC4 like 8 years ago and I still haven't played it. I'm sure it's good, but there's always other stuff I want to play instead.
>>736860692>41 perfect gamesI only have like 5 perfect games but I never really seek out perfecting a game. Most of the time the achievements aren't fun to do. Do you actively look for games with easy cheevos?
>>736860978Nah, it's more just that I have a lot of visual novels that have "achievements" for just going through the linear story. The actual perfects I consider impressive were L4D2, Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, and Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds.
>>736861176just like with music you should only play game genres you are ALL ABOUT they define WHO YOU ARE
>>736857138>I seem to recall on console it only counts you as owning the game if you boot the game whereas on Steam it counts if you bought it at all.It's the same on Steam as it is on console. You have to have booted the game at least once for you to count towards the completion percentage.
>>736860692I may have a problem.
