How the fuck did critics give Diablo 3 near perfect scores, and how the hell did this shit sell 30 million copiesYou are on autopilot the entire game. There is zero challenge but also no ways to optimize your progress, nearly everything is automated, and the levels are linear as fuck too. And I'm not even talking about ""subjective"" shit like the shitty aesthetics and story, the former things should have already made this game deserve 6/10 scores at best.
>>736857876original inferno was pretty hard especially act 2lots of dodging was necessary, autopilot resulted in auto death
it was a different game at releasefar from near perfect, but still a whole different game
>>736858015>Act 2 wasp ptsd
>>736858532>tiny canyon>hordes of waspsnothing personnel kid
>>736857876Current D3 is actually pretty fun as a mindless hack and slash, much better than D4. Its art direction is certainly not fitting for a Diablo game, but other than that it's pretty satisfying and enjoyable.
>>736857876the higher difficulties used to be fucked up
>>736858709>>736858015>>736858832I gave this game a try 3 times, finishing multiple difficulties just to see if there is anything I missed, now I'm completely convinced everyone who doesn't outright denounce this pile of shit is the most tasteless kind of person possible>fun as a mindless hack and slashwhat the fuck is fun about mashing your skill rotation and moving to the next room for tens of hours. you jump into D2 you instantly have a dozen shit you can manage to optimize your progress, in D3 there is fucking nothing, it's a ridiculously automated and linear experience, and the best thing people can say about it is that 50+ hours in the final (and now already removed) difficulty finally forced you to position right.Blizzard completely got away with this braindead slop gameplay with D3's commercial success and because of that D4 only doubled down on it. This shit is utter mobile tier slop that's just designed to keep the lowest common denominator content instead of actually delivering some good ass game design
>>736859573>what the fuck is fun about mashing your skill rotation and moving to the next room for tens of hours>what the fuck is fun about mashing blizzard/nova/hammer/etc. and teleporting to the next room for tens of hours>what the fuck is fun about [the exact description of PoE]People just like turning their brains off and killing loads of ugly monsters with flashy skills I guess
>>736859851Yeah because Diablo is a fucking Guitar Hero
>>736857876Blizzard used to have a good rep so they got tons of free 10s
>>736857876It wasn’t a fun game. I enjoyed it.
>>736859573nah , it's preaty funD3 has the best ARPG engine and the best combat feeling. The point isn't to strugle. The point is to kill hords of enemies. There are TONS of games that focus on that and you not getting this means you are a big fat moron.
>>736857876Diablo 3 sold well because Diablo 2 was that good
>>736859851in D2 you start a game you instantly have to do exploration, there will be constant situation where you have to choose between interesting and meaningful items, you have to manage your money you can buy bunch of useful shit from, manage your mana/health/potions, customize your stocketed items from the beggining, buy better items that actually give meaningful shit, allocate skillpoints and stats that can have different optimal strategies depending on your current state/loots and is especially fun to figure out blindly, watch out for the many difficulty spike encounters and position yourself right, choose which quests you want to do, horadic cube, runewords, etc.in D3 there is fucking nothingit's literally just you move to the next mostly linear room and spam your skill rotation, rinse and repeat. There is nothing extra you can do to play more efficientlyyour skills are allocated automaticallyyour stats are allocated automatically your mana/hp refills automatically, there is no potion systemyour loot is utterly uninteresting and simpllistic and already geared for you, and you are showered with it, very frequently getting small uninteresting +dps/higher stat upgrades entire item customization system is utterly guttedthere are no difficulty spikes even multiple difficulties in, no need to position, you literally teleport into the enemy stacks and spam your aoe skills, and even if you die from not paying attention because the game is so fucking boring it just throws you a few meters back without penalty >>736860818>The point isn't to strugleyou don't have to struggle in D2 either, but the game gives you shittons of RPG fitting options to optimize your playthrough which makes it feel engaging to play>D3 has the best ARPG enginethere is a reason no fucking one plays D3 anymore while D2 is still popularwhat baffles me is how the fuck are there so many people who can kept content for even a while with slop like D3
Can a D2 vet help me out, I'm progressing but feeling semi-stuck in Nightmare. If you are over-leveled for normal, like say level 45 will ilvl 45ish weapons drop in a terrorized zone? Because I'm about done with Act 2 Nightmare and just not getting higher tier base weapon drops. All I need is a weapon in the ilvl 40 range that I can take to Larzuk and have socketed, but this shit is not dropping from either a normal terror zone or nightmare.
>>736861952Might I recommend a New & Improved dildo controller for you to bounce on Tranny
>>736862041Exactly what in the fuck are you crying about? A noob D2 player?
>>736862182Take your psy ops and shove it. I'm too Giga rained IQ for your bullshit buddy
You play along with Me. Not the other way around. Retard
>>736861952farm nightmare countess over and over.at tower level 3 the area starts being 40+ so just clear every floor from 3 onwards if you specifically need lvl 40+https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Forgotten_Tower_(Diablo_II)
>how the hell did this shit sell 30 million copiesIt released on consoles.
Just play PoE
>>736857876>how the hell did this shit sell 30 million copiesthe game catered to WoW players and was advertised on the WoW launcher reaching millions of people every day for months before release and was offered as a aprt of a deal for WoW subs.Also D2 was a cultural phenomena, like the undisputed best game in the genre and a lot of peoples game of the year/decade.
>>736861926D2 suprassed D3 numbers only after the remaster.
I remember drop rates being well below abysmal dogshit levels because of the real money auction house.Though it was funny watching people spend thousands only for the items to be rendered more and more worthless each patch.
>>736857876its fun and good :V
>>736862657ty
>>736857876something things I remember about Diablo 3auto gold pickup was an awesome ideainstanced party loot was a good idealoot goblins was funmana and health orbs were niceit felt really good to play
>>736862938D2 had better twitch and youtube numbers even before the remasteralso D2 and 4 both got new dlc in the anniversary update while D3 didn't. Noone plays that shit anymore while people kept playing D2 even after 25 years
>>736857876>You are on autopilot the entire game.That's how ARPGs work, yes.
>Server issues>RMAH>Only demon hunter had a decent chance of doing inferno past act 1 without constantly dying>You were absolutely fucked if you ran into a champion that had reflect>Yellow weapons were best so you spend a lot of time identifying yellow trash>Bosses werent worth it at all
its a good game because it actually has diablo in it but it sucks that the writes made himna woman but that just means diablo in diablo 4 will be a gig a mussel chad like he deserves to be
>>736865324Are we talking players or are we talking streaming? Players it is what I said.D3 didn't get a DLC because its playerbase was supposed to go to D4.
>>736865595we never knew concrete player numbers but noone was making content for D3 while bunch of people were still making content and watching shit for D2 despite it being a far older game>3 didn't get a DLC because its playerbase was supposed to go to D4what a stupid cope, by that logic D2's playerbase should have also went to D3 and then to D4
>>736865461Diablo 2 didn'tHell even PoE2 doesn'tTry playing without following a build guide and see where "autopilot" gets you. Probably starting to be filtered by the King of the mist before getting completely walled by Jamanra
Diablo 3 is the Force Awakens of the seriespeople only got really fed up with the things that made it dogshit shit by the time it's sequel came out so everyone focused their anger on the sequel while this one was let off easily despite it being the same trash
>>736865490Rmah was great, I made like $400 in the few months after released and haven't touched the trash game since.
>>736865903>I made like $400 in the few months you mean you made blizzbucks you could only spend on like the 5 blizzard games on battlenetthis shit was always a scam
>>736857876It's weird that I like playing it, but I acknowledge that it's an extremely hollow experience. Slot machine game.
>>736857876>how the hell did this shit sell 30 million copieslol it is more like 75 million retard
>>736867292lmao my bad, what the actual fuckthis shit genuinely makes me lose hope in humanity
>>736867874Goycattles will do that
I think the initial reaction to Diablo 3 is because most Diablo 2 players didn't play after v1.10.The difficulty curve of Inferno was a completely foreign experience compared to how Diablo 2 was before synergies and immunities.
>>736860818Only if you're STUPID
>>736869561How to not lose hope in Humanity after seeing shit like this?Really 75 million what the fuck? What is going on?
>>736857876>critics rated D3>complains about RoS>compares it to D2>while describing LoDYou are even dumber than those journos
>>736872732never thought D3 apologists pretending that RoS ruined the game will be a thing considering how much D3 apologists were shilling that RoS fixed every complaing about D3 when it came out
LoD was the true D2.
>>736857876You could only truly enjoy diablo 3 at launch, in a way I'm grateful for d3 being ahead of the curve when it came to live service slop because I never fell for it again.
>>736873168There may be D3 apologists (probably just contrarians), but I'm not one of them. D3 was a midway point between LoD and a "modern" fast-paced ARPG with no noob traps and less timewasting. And since LoDtards weren't happy with it, RoS removed a lot of vestigial systems and made D3 into an actually modern ARPG (for better or worse) that is fun to play and not jsut pull a lever hoping for an enigma, 2 socket Manticore or a decent witching hour. Current RoS and release RoS are not quite as different as D3 and RoS, but it is getting up there, but this is besides the point.
At least it's not Immortal.
>>736857876>There is zero challenge but also no ways to optimize your progress, nearly everything is automated, and the levels are linear as fuck too. Bro, that is literally every single Isometric ARPG post D2. It's a braindead cookie clicker genre that shares the same audience as MMO addicts.
Hype for LoH in a few weeks! Will Warlock have any silly one to no button builds
>>736878964Dragondin is a thing so maybe
