I still think about Disco Elysium
crazy how all the elites and billionaires eat and rape kids but nothing happened
>>736866018Because they're jews, like the developers of Disco Elysium
>>736866018what did you expect that would happen, that people would riot?
>>736866183Well if niggers can do it why can't others?
>>736865813Being part of the meat shield is still being a fascist you dumb fuck geezer.
Is fascist the only word redditors know?You can show them things straight out of Ruiles for Radicals and they would call it fascism.Kier Starmer supports laws against right-wing views on immigration and they would call it fascism. etc.What I'm saying is they're deliberately not calling anying marxist or communist.
>>736866289>Kier StarmerIt's not euro hours yetGo back to bed
>>736866258others can, if they cared enough
I have yet to find a single take about anything in life from someone who is a fan of this game online, they're all mentally deficent leftists, like this might be the worst fanbase of all time.
>>736867668>like this might be the worst fanbase of all time.You have a very small frame of cultural reference if that's the case
>>736868016See, this is what I'm talking about
>>736865813Based fascistBased loli enjoyersCringe leftists are either cuckolds or gay/trans
>>736868083You're more just showing how little you knowLurk moar
You guys ever enter direction brained threads just to find amusements in the direction brained logic? Kinda neat
Shlomodinger's Fascist>Only the wealthy elites are true fascists, you're just their pawn>Until I need to categorize you as "the enemy" for my benefit
>>736866289Fascism is when authority figure effectively does things you don't like or being mean, so having bed time is fascism, dad not buying you HRT for christmas is another kristalnacht.When authority is ineffective at doing things or gives away things, that's communism, for example, mom takes your part time job spare change to buy liquor is communism.>>736866264This balding, rotting? alcoholic rednosed nigger with patchy beard and bubonic zits really owned fascism epic style xister.
>>736866289Nigger I don’t know about the rest of the world but in America fucking everybody gets accused of being a Communist even though nobody is. It’s not even an exclusively right-wing thing, you’ll hear liberals going “Drumpf loves Russia, that makes him a Commie!”
I didn't mind the devs' leftist autism because they made up for it by making the secondary villain the most woman woman of all time
>>736867668My takeaway from this game was that attaching yourself to ideologies is just as much of a cope as everything else (sex, drugs, self-delusion) and that instead of trying to change the world with grand ideals and being stuck living in the past, you should focus on doing your best just living life on a small scale (represented by Kim Kitsuragi and his calling to be a just policeman and protect people). The devs ARE Marxist but I am 99% sure they are aware their ideology is a mere fantasy. I've never been told by the game that communism is right and true but interacting with its fanbase online seems to suggest as if it's a purely political piece confirming the specific belief system they worship and that le revolution must happen. It's pathetic to look at the circlejerk really.
>>736865813>I'm a supporter of X ideology>No you're not, you're a supporter of X ideology, not one of its thoughtleadersdeep writing
>>736865813>retarded jews make bad game>useful idiot npcs suck it out of the toilet>retarded jews immediately jew each other over penniespottery
>>736869970>severely mentally disabled elderly man acts like a severely mentally disabled elderly manwow za/um are a bunch of hacks
the only memorable thing about the game is the narrator's voice
>>736866289Hint: showing the opposing side information will only make them more ingrained in their beliefs. They do not want to expand their horizon, they want confirmation bias and groupthink. This applies to all body politik. The winning move is to engage in capitalism and benefit from their efforts, so that you can improve your own standing and help those you care about
>>736870139right. I'm supposed to believe that a bunch of avowed socialists wrote a character who has an epic clapback against fascism and the reading intended by the author's is that we the audience will find HIM stupid and not ourselves for announcing our status as a fascist.Give me a break.
>>736870504>Old man jerking it to women through peep holes>"epic clapback against fascism"Hmm. So this is all it takes to defeat facism then.
>>736866258niggers don't have anything to lose by destroying the environment around them because they live in squalor and don't see a problem with itwhite people tend to enjoy the infrastructure around them being maintained
>>736870290Wasn't that study debunked
>>736869970I actually learned a lot from the neoliberal route. I always thought of the ideological superiority based on the dismal science, they brought in Karl Popper and neoliberalism empirical advantage.
>>736870717sometimes a rhetorical fumble in a piece of propaganda is just a fumble and not an intentional quirk.
>>736866289Retard
>>736868727Reddit is that way retard.
>>736866289Rape is inherently fascist so my side can never rape. Swalwell? Fascist.
>>736870504absolutely. if they really wanted to epically own the fascists they would not have made rené. nor would they have added the measurehead segment during the fascism vision quest.
>>736870904god i want to murder the Sunday Friend with my bare hands. Sur-la-Clef needs to be razed to the ground.
Has the lead writer's spinoff studio put out a game yet?
>>736865813>Me? I'm an Ultraliberal Communist Superstar, thank you for asking
>>736871613sorry, you aren't going to convince me that this extremely minor rhetorical glitch is anything other than just sloppy writing. This line is easily fixable in the correct context and with the proper setup.If it's trying to convey a point, you would have the PC announce that they are a capitalist (which is a term coined by socialists to specifically refer to the bourgeoise), after which point the bum would correct him and say that he's the meatshield for the capitalist class, playing on the modern misuse of the term to refer to anyone who supports free markets.If it's trying to convey that you're talking to a dirty old pervy bum, he would, I don't know, equate fascism with faggotry (the words are etymologically connected) and call you a queer or something.
>>736872140The one flaw with Disco Elysium is the Inability to fake Political beliefs in order to pacify those you are talking to, and Kim treating you as if you have conflicting beliefs because of that
>>736872149it's clear that you haven't played the game. do so. it's fun. you'll have a good time. you'll understand why what you're suggesting makes zero sense.
>>736871718Who doesnt hate inflation? More importantly as a 2007 btard, Id love to know when slumming and fucking young pussy stopped being based. (Can't remember if hes a fag or not, than I get it)
>>736865813If the game was going to tell the player this, it should have let us do something about the Moralintern man visiting the male prostitute. There could have been a quest around that, but there's nothing, and the player is always called a bad person for by the tragically heroic deserter for not being communist enough.It's the same thing with the tribunal, you automatically side with the communists and there is no quest interaction with the Krenel mercenaries. All you get for exploration is some perception dialogue letting you know they are present in Revachol.
>>736872453Never played the game and never will in all likelihood. Seems like a game for people who obsessed over political compass tests and treated them like horoscopes back in 2016.I'm just commenting on the OP image, which it sounds like everyone agrees is a fumble, you're only arguing that it is a fumble attributable to the character and not the writers. The reason I don't buy that argument is because if you were going to intentionally write a character fumbling their rhetoric, you would make it a lot more obvious than this.
>>736871613the vision quests were written by some interns and supervised by the foids >>736872793>It's the same thing with the tribunal, you automatically side with the communists and there is no quest interaction with the Krenel mercenaries.why would you side with the bad guys? it didn't work in real life, it sure as shit won't work in a videogame
>>736872815>you would make it a lot more obvious than this.and, to add on to this, you would also have the fumble reveal something about a character.This is a minor and purely gratuitous fumble. He's just replying to your statement with a non sequitur.
>>736873020>why would you have choices in a video gameYeah, I play RPGs to shoot things, that's why Disco Elysium and Fallout 76 are my favorites
>>736872815>if you were going to convey something, you have to make sure to drive it home as hamfistedly as possibleplay the game or don't, but don't pretend like there isn't subtle, nuanced art in the world, whether created by your political opposites or otherwise
>>736873310it doesn't have to be hamfisted, but this is conveying nothing. It's a broken syllogism>All fascists are useful idiots>the player is an avowed fascist>therefore the player is a useful idiot, which makes him not a fascistif you wanted to convey that this bum character struggles with logic, there are many ways to do it that don't lead to people questioning whether the writers proofread their script.
>>736873173why do you want to have objectively evil choices though
>>736873849Because it's fun to be evil
>>736866289The character in the OP is specifically an insane delusional communist murderer
>>736865813You are aware that good games exist?
>>736865813>VN with no gameplay>story is about politics>written by blue hair tumblroids embarassing, old /v/ would've shat all over this game but you zoomer fags lap it up
>>736874079>VN with no gameplay>story is about politics>written by a tumblr tier gookold /v/ sucked it off
>>736865813It was such a great scene where you go super detective mode and uncover how the shot happened and from where. It was one hell of a shot, worth it to find the guy to tell him.
>>736868016It's true, fanbases like Sonic and MLP have insane talent and produce quality content, Discofags have nothing good going for them.
>>736865813I do find it kinda ironic the communist calls someone else a meat shield.
>>736874616Never give the sonic fags or the horse fuckers any form of creditThey'll take mile after mile
>>736869731it got a pass because journalists confused her character for a traitorous spy when in reality it was just a woman
>>736865813We're all slaves to patterns older and larger than us, the only thing Disco Elysium has to tell you is to go live in the present moment and enjoy it. Nothing you do matters, you are just a link in a great chain, all of politics is misinterpreted biology.
>>736865813but fascism is-why the fuck is this thread even a thing???I can make a thread about baking pies, putting game in the subject field and it will stay on forever
>>736866018Yeah, I used to think it was exaggeration. They literally just do it
>>736866396all of my British online friends stay up until 8am to match the true American hours, it is very much euro time right now
>>736875212I actually thought she was a spy. What was her motivation for lying, then?
>>736865813i vape insect pussy juice and i say this and look like this
>>736865813His voice actor is great, a standout performance.
>>736866018>eatI think normalfags looked at the schizos going "beef jerky, they are clearly cannibals!" and got tired of the whole thing.
>>736866396>euro game thread>8pm euro time >not euro hoursSasuga.
>>736871869>/qa/>he doesn't know
>>736865813I mean, he's right
>>736865813>dems are the real fascists
>>736881964Its so right it had to have been patched in, If he said that in version 1.0 thats impressive as fuck.
I think about Dean Moriarty
Good game.
>>736878147>What was her motivation for lying, then?To save herself at the cost of any life she could throw in the path.
>>736866289marxism and communism are effectively dead. they morphed into social justice ideologies. it barely exists anymore without it.
>>736872793>the player is always called a bad person for by the tragically heroic deserter for not being communist enoughAnother day, another anon who felt personally insulted by a video game...
>>736872547Ummm is this image artificially intelligentsianated? That’s cringe
>>736872547>Id love to know when slumming and fucking young pussy stopped being basedHe's a glowie who if you pass the right checks doesn't actually work for the government's price stability department (that department doesn't exist) but through what information it shows he's very intimate with, he instead works more for their CIA equivalent and specializes in poor unstable countries. He's fucking a man (the smoker) who he could have deported whenever he wants, he's got the whole file on him.
>pick communism>wow you're a great person henry but the FACISTS will never let communism happen!>pick facism>its just fart jokes, the idea hurts you, and it ends with them saying all facists are incelsvery cool!
>>736871613doesnt that segment end with a fart joke
>>736871613Rene is portrayed as tragic, because he's a good man stymied by his own beliefs. He fought for people that hated him, sacrificed everything, and is now a bitter old man in a snappy uniform. He's only better than the Deserter in that he's made peace with his loss, but he's still such a hardass that he doesn't let himself enjoy his own life.
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>>736865813So this is out soon. And there's like 5 different splinter groups of the devs trying to lay claim to being the 'true successor' game. And there was Esoteric Ebb which honestly was pretty polished for being a one guy game and basically Disco D&D. What game will claim the crown of mediocre successor game? Will you play this eastern Europe communist spy game?
>>736883997Where's the lie?
>>736868265I enter Disco Elysium threads to laugh at people seething about random screenshots that never played the game
>>736865813Always remind commies that their elites and dictators are no better and had their own pizza parties.
>>736866258whites asians arabs hispanics natives are all in too much comfort to revolt like what >>736870860said
>>736865813I enjoyed playing as a fascist and calling Kim a yellow monkey fucker but I really don't get why so many people treat this game as if its writing is on par on with Planescape or jap VNs. It's funny, at least I'll give it that. Failing checks always ends up with pretty entertaining dialogue.
>>736887154failing checks should always lead into interesting outcomes besides losing or getting into battles like in rpgs
>>736887223I agree. For all the complaints I have with this game that was a great idea and I'm kind of disappointed cRPGs didn't pick this up. Failing checks actually being fun is a way better gameplay mechanic than just instant combat or no further dialogue.
If there's not nationalistic ties to the authoritarian, it's not fascism. That's literally it. It's not that hard to even define but Marxists and liberals alike fucking spiral into a theory black hole in an effort to AVOID defining it.
>>736887329And much like communism, the material conditions needed for it to take hold simply don't exist right now.
>>736885598That fascism is also great in theory but it doesn't have the internationalist angle of communism because it's inherently nationalistic. All the flaws of fascist theory, communist theory also has but it brings the entire world down with it because communists spread via civil unrest rather than national crises.
>>736885148>female protagnot gonna touch it with a 10 foot pole
>>736887582In a fascist world, every nation would be more isolated but culturally homogenized and all forms of international contact will technically need to have state-level permissions. Something like the Great Firewall of China but every nation has it.
>>736886858>Man who ran the NKVD was bad
>>736865813I still laugh at how they were ousted from their own studio, in true communist fashion.
>>736866018Evidence, pls.
I'm glad that the puplisher kicked out these unironic commies but I'm worried the new game is trying too hard to copy Disco
>>736865813rent free
>>736886858What Beria did wasn't even a "pizza party". He legitimately just used the secret police to fuck women and girls he saw on the street or wanted favours from him (which he wouldn't even carry through with). He asked his bodyguard to keep a record of every woman he's done it with as a form of blackmail only for a copy of it to be saved and used as a case against him during his arrests which were in the triple digits.
>I liked the game for its portrayal of a trauma burdened man who misses his wife while solving a murder>people automatically think I get fisted at pride parades because of some plot relevant wordsGo fuck yourself. It was fun and heartbreaking to see that level of delusion a man struggles through to find himself. I dont give a fuck about the politics and the creators being cunts about it.
>>736891204They wouldn't get it.
>>736866018This is probably true in every country at any point in history
>>736866289you didnt play the game go back to asmongolds subreddit
>>736891204>Dolores Dei, HARDCORE and Pale subplotsThe *wink wink politics* plot points were unironically the weakest stuff in the whole game
>>736891204based me too. it's so rare to get truly flawed piece of shit protagonists in games. and it was written by someone who clearly has been a piece of shit in their life.
>>736891204I never had a girlfriend and i still felt sad over the break up dream scene."see you tomorrow" is brutal.
>>736868114the pause symbols ruin it I can't believe people haven't removed them yet
>>736891204Lmao I didn't do the vision quests or really interact with the politics beyond the norm. It wasn't a statement or anything, I just ended up playing that way. It was a beautiful game about a man broken beyond repair. Additionally, enjoyment of the game scales with how much life you've experienced. You won't "get it" unless you've been there, I think.
>>736892039>I've failed you.
>>736865813there is no way this is real. I routinely have people tell me this game has GOOD writing.
>>736891204I didn't think it before, but now I DO think you get fisted at pride.
>>736892039this scene is so eerily reminiscent to my own life it makes me wonder if i live in a simulation. even her name is the same.
>>736892503You do not live on a beach street, stop fibbing.
>>736892327Even the vision quests aren't bad. Hell, the end of the communist quest line is just an elaborate admission that communism runs on hopium and the theory is just window dressing. Then again, nobody who hates the game has actually played it.
>>736892503>motherfucker dated somone named Dora/Dorothy/DoloresBased 64 year old gamer
>never did anything fucked up in my life so any character I write can never be interesting to draw from a lived experienceDamn.
>>736892039I've had gfs before but I always found the Working Class Woman sidequest way more devastating.
>>736872330Harry doesn't have the capacity to think things through well enough to swap between political alignments convincingly.
>>736872793> The tragically heroic deserterwhat? he's a bitter old nutjob
>>736892617great another similarity>>736892795i swear to god. she was named after her grandmother
>>736893292Oh yeah that was terrible too. I had actual tears on my eyes during it.Kim saying "Dont tell her you know how she feels, you don't" stuck with me.
>>736873020Harry and Kim are there to avoid a violent battle in the streets between the two forces, even if you hate the hardie boys they're the only ones trying to calm things down. Kortenaer and his goons WANT a confrontation no matter what, and the second Harry and Kim waltzed in on the tribunal, they were just as much targets for the Krenel as anyone else there.Its a choice based game but unless the character is a complete blank slate character like an elder scrolls protag or something, there's going to be things they are and aren't going to do canonically. Just the same as how you immediately get a bad end game over if you shoot Cunoesse, or if Harry tries to quit being a cop after Ruby commits suicide. I imagine even if they DID allow you to try and appeal to the Krenel, the result would be the same as the "COP DIES IN DEADLY STREET SHOOT OUT" bad end.
>>736865813>The loser, parasocial murdere hobo with no education who has nothing to his name and will now lecture you AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY!I was laughing out loud at this part! The devs were projecting their own ideas so hard!
>>736893635I had the same thing happen to me on my 30th fucking birthday. I hate whores like this
>>736893635Anon really is the Sorry Cop
I really like this game because it's genuine Even though the writers are commies they make fun of it and are aware of how flawed this ideology is.They even make fun of the game itself and how catastrophic the process of making it was "the computer logs in the dark room"It points at the flaws of each political ideology, even if you pick the centrist path it makes fun of youAll that without being a contrarian It's a lightening in a bottle in a world full of games made by marketing fags and excel spreadsheets.I liked esoteric ebb too, it's really good.The next Disco Elysium will never be made by a major goyslop studio or the offshoots of the original groupBecause they're trying to catch that lightning in the bottle again, DE succeeded because it was something new Something sincere and honest.The thing is, some people have many great ideas but it's very rareWhat's more common is many people have a single good idea for a book, game, painting or musicAnd when they make it they will chase that dragon thinking they can make something as good again, but that good thing was a culmination of life experience, inspiration and ideas that take a lifetime to put together.
>>736865813>Absolute loser of a human covering up a murder he committed with a political idea>The real reason for the murder was that he had erectile dysfunction and he became jealous>Your faithful partner calls him a sick man with dementia, talking nonsense>Chuds are confident that this is developers self insert
>>736875212chuckled out loud
>>736865813I don't think about it at all. Some old creep gooner in an incel rage shoots a guy who happens to be a hired gun scab, then his buddies have one scene where they try to start shit, then you go to arrest the guy. Ultimately it's a game about walking around a few blocks and talking to some random people who infodump their political beliefs on your ass. The dialogue was competent I guess, but I didn't find the characters memorable or setting that interesting.
>>736885148I am betting on AK's Travelling at Night, because the only thing it borrows is the notion of an isometric RPG without combat. And not talking stats and le politique ramblings, the surface-level trappings that mean little in the face the actual goddamn writing.My only concern is that the dude has been writing microfiction nigh-exclusively, so elaborate dialogues and ever-present companions is a bit out of his wheelhouse.
