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Why cant this compete with OG Hyrule Warriors? Did Cia really sell the original game or is the BOTW cast just that bad?
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Legends is really the only reason I still use my 3ds. Them adventure maps won't finish themselves
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Yeah story and gameplay was just a dull slog. Can't really do much with the awful characters.
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>>736877036
Game is kino and way better than AOC. You're just a nigger faggot with a micropenis.
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The BotW cast was fine, Age of Calamity was good. Age of Imprisonment doesn't even use the BotW cast in favor of Zelda and a bunch of random OCs.
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>>736877360
Nah character movesets became way too unified compared to AoC. It's fucking bland as shit.
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Its clear theyre innovating with each warriors game they make but fuck me why cant they let them go wild like in Hyrule Warriors definitive edition? The breath of the wild cast makes me want to kill myself.
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I loved Age of Calamity, and was about to get it, but I legit have not heard a single positive thing about this game. The best I heard is that it's 60fps, which is fine I guess but doesn't mean shit if the game is dogshit. What happened?
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>>736877036
The whole point of the original was a big ole celebration of the franchise. You remove that and you're left with a dull pretentious game.
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>cast of legendary fan favorite characters
>Cast of literally fucking WHO?
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>>736877036
>less characters
>less maps
>characters are literal whos
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no linkle and that bitch with the blue hair
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>>736877962
Why does nintendo hate fun? The og cast had so many oc characters like cia and volga and yet they got memes in those old threads.

Now? Its like apathy with the new Hyrule warriors games. Nobody cares.
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>>736877827
Basically the issue is that they didn't fucking add Ganondorf nor Sonia as playable characters. but also
>The plot is a retread of the flashbacks we already saw in TotK with notLink and his OC donut steel Korok sidekick fucking around with randos that have fuckall characterization until they join the main group.
>Sages don't fair much better, they're pale imitations of the champions from BotW
>The character movesets feel blander than normal and in general give a feeling of "incomplete" due to generic characters having a fraction of the moves of sages.
>All movesets also feel less unique mechanically save for characters like Mineru and Calamo, barely any of them have gimmicks or mechanics you need to learn outside of which moves deal which kind of elemental damage which makes it easy to hop from one character to another but ultimately hurts the experience
>The fusion gimmick isn't fun due to enemies being able to hit you out of the animation
>Zonai weapons are too much of a centralizing mechanic due to how much damage they deal compared to regular combat but at the same time they're not really fun because it just boils down to spamming them in sequence to trigger elemental chains over and over and over and over again.
>Zonai weapons sharing shortcuts with special moves means you regularly need to switch them around which means more digging through menus compared to the simple 4 sheikah slate runes in AoC and the elemental rods
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>>736878325
They didn't even make Koume and Kotake playable despite them being fucking there.
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Breath of the wild was so successful that it made Nintendo fucking retarded. Everything has to be BOTW because BOTW sold so good.

Nintendos captured. Unless they can break free from BOTW check boxes, they arent gonna be making good games again anytime soon for first party games.
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>>736877036
Aside from Adventure Mode being really fun to go through. You also just have previously established characters that people wanted to mess around with. Playing as "Insert generic Hylian here" doesn't have the same ring to it.
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>>736877036
It's probably because the first Hyrule Warriors is the game that had content from so many Zelda games and the others just focused on BotW and TotK.
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>>736877036
It has the same kind of problems as AoC for me. It focuses too much on pure combat for a game which isn't really about the pure combat and ignores the aspects which give it depth. The original hyrule warriors had more battlefield management aspects to it, AoC and AoI are just about mowing through trash mobs and killing bosses.
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>>736877036
Hyrule Warrior 1 has the best cast Zeldas history. Hyrule warriors 2 and 3 is shitty BOTW/TOTK characters no one cares about.
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I still haven't gotten over how hard they pussied out with Age of Calamity by doing that split timeline horseshit
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>>736878325
I'm holding out for a recapturing of Hyrule Warriors, they had those on rails flying segments, I think they could do it great if they did Starfox. Hyrule Warriors already has that whole system where you have to respond to threats from the enemy, that's effectively Starfox 2, so just do a Starfox game. Have the whole cast of the series show up as playable characters, it will be good.
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>>736877036
nobody liked TotK so nobody liked AOC
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I only really liked the original because I played the definitive edition. I just fucking hate the dlc model they use for these games, can't justify paying full price for a game I'll only play for like 50 hours then either have to pay dlc or never play agan.
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>>736878707
Bro especially why isn't Sonia playable... like they must've saved her for a shitty excuse to have DLC
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You simply can't go from a series-wide fanservice extravaganza to a spinoff of a single game with characters enemies and a story no one cares about and expect it to have even 1/10th the relevance of the original.
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>>736880390
Sexy, but looks uncomfortable
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>>736880390
>empty spot for her on the CSS
>do 2 free updates
>still not in
>Ganondorf isn't in either
The actual fuck
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>>736884413
>were doomed to sell badly
Age of Calamity is the best selling Musou/Warriors game of all time.
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>>736877036
>>736884413
Age of Imprisonment has already outsold the OG Hyrule Warriors, launched with more playable characters and content and has far better gameplay. Age of Calamity is the best selling Musou game of all time, better than any Dynasty Warriors game or any other spinoff.

There is a desperate desire (mostly from the Insane anti-BotW crew) to pretend the new Zelda games are bad or unpopular and everyone sobs and shits and cums when they see a reference to OoT, but the truth is the new games are the most highly rated, most popular and simply most enjoyable of all 3D Zelda games ever made. Even their spin offs are better made and better selling.

2D Zelda is still better than 3D and Alttp is the greatest game of them all, but it's nice to see OoT shitters suffer after years of pretending they were the best.
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>>736885505
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/hyrule_warriors_age_of_calamity_is_officially_the_best-selling_musou_game_ever
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>>736877036
OG Hyrule Warriors is fucking dogshit, pure nostalgiabatmit
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>>736877036
>start the series off with THE ultimate all-star crossover game, picking the best characters from every game before it, with a Koei spin on the cast itself
>then AoC limits itself just to BOTW, in a game that bafflingly wasn't canon so who the fuck cares, it's just a worse HW with a smaller cast who are way lamer
>then makes another sequel that limits itself to TOTK, without Link, with the awful ugly retcon race, by the time people are tired of these games and BOTW in general and they aren't special anymore
The HW games should have begun and ended with OG HW, and if it needed a sequel, should have built off them. The way they went about the series was so stupid and needlessly butchered because muh BOTW
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>>736885712
>Thinks BotW isn't canon
>Judges the quality of their game by how many references make them clap
Did you think the Mario movie was peak fiction you drooling retard? OG HW was a terrible crossover because it had no story and the characters didn't talk or interact in any way. The other 2 are way better games just because they have a cast with personalities and actual interactions.
>MFW a single scene of Sidon managing to save his sister's life has more heart, soul and impact than all of OG HW combined
It's hilarious how much this game mindbroke you freaks.
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>>736885890
Based, can't believe the guys need more
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>>736885890
that's not spirit tracks zelda THOUGH
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>>736886021
Spirit tracks Zelda is a child
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>>736877036

The original game had characters people recognized and wanted to play as. AoC and AoI are very much 'here's a character that uses this weapon archetype' interspliced with gimmick weapon characters.

If AoI didn't have Mineru's insane crowd control powers, the game would have been insufferable. AoC on Switch 1 hardware is the worst game in the sub-series.
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>>736877036
BotW's cast + BotW's setting being ass + the game barely running at 30 fps
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>>736877036
i was interested in the vast cast of the zelda franchise. not the boring ass retread of botw for the 3rd time. botw was fun. the HW game that was a retread of botw but a warriors game got boring halfway through. TOTK sucks ass and the warriors retread of TOTK has absolutely nothing interesting to it.

if they added the botw characters to the huge roster of the first HW game and made more NEW NON RETREAD stuff i would have been entirely fine with that.

its clear they just think "botw = infinite money"
give me fucking onox and Veran as playable characters. fuck you nintendo
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>>736886949
You're thinking of Age of Calamity. Age of imprisonment is 60fps and just TOTK focused.
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Do people who suck OG HW off have even played it?
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>>736877526
This is the real reason the OG ends up still being so good. It just throws everything in and doesn't give a fuck, you have plenty of fan favorites and outside of some misteps like no Groose, it has a wide variety of characters with distinct play styles and so much content that even if you only play for 100 hours you feel like you got your money's worth. This newer HW has characters no one gives a shit about and lore that means next to nothing.
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>>736885863
>Thinks BotW isn't canon
Pretty sure he meant that AoC isn't canon to BotW despite being set as a prequel
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>>736879247
It's not an an egregious split. The Champion descendants pop in from the BotW timeline, and return back at the end. Making the game a canon split timeline wouldn't have been hard at all.
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As someone who just saw a friend playing through it, I thought the story in Age of Calamity was cute.
I don't see why people got so mad about it, it's probably like top 3 story in the series
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They focused on the individual games instead of building up on the first game with more games, more enemy mobs and more characters.

>>736878829
And this, for the short version. BotW is its own brand. TotK, not so much despite the initial sales.



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