What is /v/'s view on redguards?
I'd like them were it not for their complexion
>>736878671You post that as if it wasn't among the nicest of the dunmer dialogue topics on the other races in Morrowind
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Why is race treated as immutable in RPGs ?
>>736878797That's really a matter of perspective. A lot of dunmer speak incredibly kindly of of the other races because they make wonderful slaves.
They are only 13% of the population of Tamriel but are responsible for 52% of murders.
>>736878306equating Redguards with blacks is for secondaries
tes 6 better not take place in the poopskin desert. imagine waiting all this time just for wewuzism in a giant boring litterbox. ANYWHERE besides hammerfell
>>736878306they successfully genocided an entire subrace of elves. that makes them okay in my book
They're alright. If TES6 shows Hammerfell I hope it keeps the Barbary pirate/North African vibe instead of going full subsaharan we wuz wakandans and shit.
>>736880986It's literally the opposite thougheverbeitSecondary retards who have only ever played Skyrimjob and ESO think that they're muh arab berbers because they wear le funny turbans and have names like al-durka nazeem while actual TES connoisseurs know that their modern post-daggerfall incarnation is directly inspired by 20th century african-american and caribbean pan-africanism, as directly stated by the guy who wrote them, which is why pre-skyrim redguards all had names like Trayvond and Wallace
>>736881490>the portrayal we get of Redguards in the game literally called Redguard which shows them as swashbuckling corsairs that really just dress and act like Barbary pirates is wrong and for secondaries>the other main portrayal in Daggerfall is also wrong and for secondaries>this one guy in Oblivion is called Trayvond so that means they're bix nood basketball-AmericansYeah if you ignore literally every time we see them in canon games they really are something they're not.Cyrus is a Persian name, so does that mean that the Redguards are all Persians?
>>736878306I remember reading that Reguard women are the more romantically aggressive sex of the race
>>736878965>make wonderful slaves>get irrevocably btfo by 2 of those wonderful slave races Ha, got eem
Don't care but I know the Tamriel Rebuilt team is putting all hands on deck on the next TR update and getting Project: Hammerfell out. Sad that that project almost caused them to go exlcusively MWSE.
This n'wah so redguarded
>>736881927>the portrayal we get of Redguards in the game literally called RedguardYou mean, the game whose main writer literally said that Redguards are fantasy black people inspired by the Black Panther party?Also, who could forget TESA's Redguards and their tendency to be petty brutal turban-wearing sea rats mostly known for their tendency to be opportunistic slavers lol. You're just grasping at straws in that particular Barbary Pirates comparison y'know, the Redguards' affinity for seafaring is an entirely independent invention from their Daggerfall-derived middle eastern aesthetic. I assure you Ted Peterson did not have that in mind when he gave them domed buildings and neither did Kirkbride when he decided to have them be skilled sailors
>>736878306I play as one of those
>>736882317>the writer points out how it was a cool opportunity to have the black analogue group be aggressive and proud without having to worry about pussyfooting around it for fear of making a commentary of black people being violent assholes>this means that the culture of the Redguards is basketball-AmericansAre you fucking stupid? That thing you posted is that he found it an interesting opportunity to write a group of black people that are actually allowed to have been the conquerors. The Redguards are nationalists and the story isn't ashamed of portraying Redguards in a potentially negative light (as violent, imperialistic conquerors who killed the natives of their new homeland). Which is why they're compared to the Black Panthers, who are black nationalists that are often seen in a negative light. That's the comparison. He's not saying that Redguards wear sneakers, play basketball, and are literally African-Americans culturally. You fucking dumbass.
>>736878306That one looks easy to work with.
>>736878306Black people but Saharan instead of sub-Saharan and without all the negatives of being brutes since they act like the Japanese
>>736882628Yeah, but he does very clearly say they are black people (as you suddenly admit now), which is what this conversation is about and what i was disputing with the guy i originally replied to, retardBtw here's his sketch of a Redguard knight from the time, very much a berber
>>736878306Redguards were always the token black characters of TES.
>>736882897Black? That is a picture of the whitest man in Brazil.
>>736883065I honestly did not mind it. To make it the location of a new game though... My expectations are low.
>>736883000I'm not the one that said they weren't black people. They're black people with a culture that more resembles Barbary pirates, North Africans, and Arabs than it does sub-Saharan Africans or African-Americans. You started off by directly stating that only secondaries think they have the culture they objectively have always been portrayed as having and that they actually have a culture they have never ever been portrayed as having. Something not even the comments you use as a source agree with.
Redguards are Moors
Remember: all men and elves are actually human, they're all the same thing, even if they refuse to admit it. The ones that are actually non-human are the beastfolk. Say yes to elves, say no to cats
>>736885497the only knife ear propaganda I'll allow is a thalmor mommy chokeholding me as a sex slave
>>736882897Exactly. They're the actual Kangz.
