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Why was this game so universally hated?
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>>736890630
because people care too much about what others think on the internet
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Because building vehicles is dumb
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>>736890630
It's not, stop listening to sloptuber.
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>>736890630
it's not anywhere except here, it was very well received overall.
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>>736891032
False. Only normalfags and zoomers think it's a good game
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>>736890902
lmao gottem this underage faggot >>736891068 literally posting sloptuber thumbnail
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>>736891761
You are a cultist cock sucker and no one takes your word seriously
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>>736891827
A retard kid who watches sloptubers and take their shitty opinion as gospel calling others cultist, lmao!
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>>736891898
I knew totk was bad before anyone made a video about it

Seethe, tranny
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Because zelda was never good
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>>736891068
Horrible video, they get so much wrong right away and continue the diatribe of nonsense for like 3 hours.
>>736891937
Skittybitty is a troon, an actual tranny
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>>736892083
Not my problem. Sometimes trannies are based.
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>>736891898
based tranny
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>>736891068
Even most normies think it sucks. Turns out doubling down on everything BOTW did that the almost no one liked, then throwing in a shitty Nuts 'n' Bolts clone that quickly moves from novel to tedious, doesn't endear the audience.
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Why didn't your father pull out?
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TOTK is a great example of why we need gatekeeping. There are way too many normalfags who go "this is my first Zelda wow!!!" and they are the only dipshits saying anything positive about it. It's like a parody of itself, like a Tencent version of BOTW where they would have given Chink Link huge knockers and named it something like "Sigh Of The Wild". They need to make something twice as fucked up and obtuse as Majoras Mask in order to shake these fucking frauds off of my game before it becomes even more like fucking Roblox.
>>736891761
Eat shit faggot, the reason the video is so popular is because every single point is literally inarguable. Three hours of nothing but ironclad facts. Deal with it retard
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>>736891068
so then its not "universally hated", normalfags and zoomers like it.
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>>736893387
Holy mother of fucking GIGA-BASED.
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>>736890630
7 years for a glorified DLC.
Ubisoft shits out Assassin's Creeds in a third of the time with the same effort.
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>>736893387
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>>736890630
Smoothbrains can't into GMod
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>Doesn't fix weapon durability, slaps a bandaid on it instead
>Makes said bandaid required because the base weapons are weaker due to the malice - I mean gloom
>Ultrahand's creativity is hampered by either not having enough batteries or your creations having a time limit. Any weapons you create do little damage to the enemies that really matter and by the time you create mechs and whatnot, they won't matter anyway
>The sky was advertised heavily, but the starting island is the biggest and most fleshed out, every other sky island is smaller and barren
>The depths was shown late into pre-release and it had more going for it, but only two new enemy types appear and every other enemy you can find on the surface and sky, except they have malice - I mean gloom around their bodies
>Caves should have been the actual depths, with more interconnectivity throughout Hyrule, some caves even going deep, deep down. Still one of the better things TotK added
>Requiring so many materials to upgrade your armor was devious, and done deliberately to waste your time and extend the game time
>The weapon fusions was just tacking the asset on the top of a weapon. Funny to the Japanese, jarring to the rest of the world
>Didn't commit to being a sequel to BotW
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>>736893387
>"this is my first Zelda wow!!!"
Imagine being spoiled by peak, no wonder nobody wants to play the old ones.
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>>736891068
>Only normalfags and zoomers think it's a good game
so, the vast majority of people who played it. okay.
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>>736893929
>requiring so many materials to fix your armor was tedious
You don't even know the half of it. Let's take a specific example, the Champions Leathers. For this you need 8 light dragon parts and you can only get one of these every ten minutes. That means besides the grind you are literally sitting there wasting your life just fucking waiting. In a single player game. FOR 80 MINUTES MINIMUM.
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>>736894101
Here's your ((you)) retard. The only thing good about TOTK is that it's a Zelda where Ganon is actually intimidating and even that goes out the window if you get the master sword since you can kill him in seven hits. You will never touch Zelda, Link isn't a trans man, your parents never loved you and everyone you trust talks shit about you behind your back. Kill yourself.
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>>736894326
>should i play the game and collect these items naturally as i do so
>NO, i obviously need to clear this one single checklist check before i can move on
this doesn't sound like a problem with the game, it sounds like a problem with the player.
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Breath of the Wild was just as bad. Modern people are just incapable of forming opinions without being in the echo chamber of others.
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I just recently played it and it's an improvement on botw which was really easy and once you got some powers made traversing any area trivial
only 2 complaints which are the item bloat and cycling through menus to find a specific thing to use and random enemies that can kill you in 1 hit especially early on
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>>736890630
>he made ANOTHER thread in the SAME day!
so do you get paid to do this, or are you literally just THAT retarded?
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These forced hate threads are some of the most pathetic I've seen in my 17 years here.
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Simmer down skin 'o brown
-60485 karma to Ziony btw
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>>736894997
Newfag
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>>736894645
It's your literal cover art armor you dumb fucking kike. It's not upgrading "Bumfuck Armor 7" it's making sure your signature armor can help you survive more than two hits. But like everyone else who likes TOTK you haven't actually fucking played it so I know I'm arguing with a brick wall that's half as smart as a usual one.
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>>736894842
He's Brazil and an aids ridden homo(literal)
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>>736895029
And funnily enough, From figured out having to upgrade armor sucks dick before even BOTW came out, but apparently Nintendo didn't copy that part of the homework
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>>736895023
Correct.
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It's a cheap asset flip on par with Super Mario Bros. 2
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>>736895029
a non set piece that has no special effect other than the niche interaction with the master sword is quite literally bumfuck armor 7. being on the cover means nothing unless you're an autistic sperg, in which case i accept your concession.
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>>736893929
>need to grind 13,500 zonaite to fully upgrade your battery
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>>736895402
duplication glitch was a godsend for this alone.
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>>736895401
>I'm still a shit-skinned retard who hasn't played the game because mommy didn't buy it for me
nice bait pajeet, don't you have a pragmata thread to spam "ouuuuuughhh" in?
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>>736895029
yeah, you're supposed to upgrade it over the course of your journey you stupid faggot. the fact that you see "cover armor not fully upgraded" and just stand there waiting until it is like an program that's stuck until it finishes executing its current task is embarrassing for you as a human being. if you're playing the game enough to need fully upgraded Champion's Leathers, you're gonna be playing for way fucking longer than 80 minutes, so just grab those pieces when you see the chance over your playtime, instead of trying to do everything in a specific order like a bot.
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>>736890630
it wasnt. millions of people had fun.
post fun clips.
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>>736895494
>can refute nothing
>relies on pathetic personal attacks
>general schizo rambling
i accept your concession.
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>>736894539
>The only good thing is this one thing, in addition to everything else that's great too
yeah, nobody going to want to play the old ones now
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>>736894997
You would think 9 years was enough seething for some of these virgins, lol. They cannot help it, like that commercial where the old people feel and can't get up.
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>>736895029
You can't have it both ways, is there nothing to find when you explore, or is there stuff to upgrade armors. Pretty sad that you fail to explore, and then try to rush and do it all quickly down the road.
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>>736895519
>replying twice to the same post because he's so buckbroken and needs attention
Blocking Indian IPs from this website would instantly fix everything wrong with it. You will never be white and totk will never be good. Please move on.
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>>736890630
>Reuses the overworld and assets
>Somehow takes longer to make than BotW which had to be made entirely from scratch and for 2 different platforms
>Ends up being a shittier version of BotW anyway
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>>736893387
>sigh of the wild
Kek
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>>736895678
You don't find armor upgrade material by exploring
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>>736895978
>implying people who like TOTK have actually played it and aren't larping zoomers who liked seeing tiktoks of Zelda being omg so quirky
don't bother lmao, keep ignoring the brown skinned creature and hell crawl back to his gooning threads soon enough
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it's in my top 10 of the 2020s so far
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>>736896034
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BotW sucked and half of the things people bitch out TotK for are just as present in BotW, it's just an example of the spell of "open world" breaking and everyone blaming the sequel rather than doing the introspection to realize 90% of the issues already existed in the previous game.
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>>736895978
explain how you do find upgrade material then.
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>>736895978
soooooooo how exactly do you find them, do they lol, fall out of the sky?
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>>736896070
imagine hating your job so much that you try to collapse the industry rather than just find a new job. tell me, rohit, what will you do when they ban indian propaganda posters?
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>>736896165
Yes? Literally? The starshards fall from the sky and are needed for almost every single amiibo outfit and other luminous ones. But you'd know that if you actually played the game, pajeet.
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>>736896265
soooooo where did the star fragments fall, anywhere interesting
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>entire thread is third worlders who could never afford a 70 dollar game vs people who bought a 70 dollar game and hate it
loz is doomed.
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post more fun clips
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So let me get this straight, armor upgrades fall out of the sky, they land directly in your hand, there's no exploring to be done in the game, there's nothing to discover.
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>What could this video possible be like
>It's 3 hours long
Holy fuck is this what zoomers spend all day doing. Let me guess, it's another video "essay" that spends most of its time restating what happened rather than doing actual analysis?
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>>736896526
apparently it only happens if you stand completely still and don't do anything but wait too. oh and somehow the game knows if you AFK so that doesn't work either.
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>>736896580
Technological masterpiece, Nintendo set the bar really high.
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>>736896538
It's worse than a story recap, it's someone misunderstanding everything that happens, on purpose, to appeal to those who already don't like the game.
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>>736891068
not a zoomer and definitely not a normalfag here
it was pretty good, nothing amazing

>>736896538
at least they watch it at 2x speed
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>>736890630
Reusing the map was lazy and the vehicles gimmick is great but turned Zelda into a completely different thing and since they spent so much time developing it now they will double down and triple down on it for future entries until Zelda becomes a franchise about building vehicles and little else.
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>>736890630
I never played botw so i liked it. Heard it was essentially botw 1.5, so i got the best experience out of it
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>>736897124
all of the mountains matter more in botw because you cant just subvert them with vehicles or rockets. exploration felt a bit more "earned". other than that, totk is generally the same but better.
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>>736890817
No, it was fun. And the ability to save vehicles, or in the Switch 2 version straight up download autobuild vehicles is kino.
It's just too much shit to the point neither the sky or depths are fleshed out. I wish they focused on the sky. And I know, I don't have to do it all but man, I kinda want to on first play through. Not 100% with korok seeds, fuck that, but all the side quests. But now it's every well, every cave, every crevice that reminds me of her.
Great game, but way too much bloat. I do like that armour isn't locked behind Amiibo. A rare dog treat to the Goys.
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>>736899718
thats not a fun clip, thats a shitty bait clip.
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>>736899881
But it shows what you'll be doing for 3/4 of the game. Funny how clips tend to leave that out huh
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>>736899973
>i dont know how to use the sort function
debunked bait.
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>>736890630
took too long to be made and underdelivered
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>>736900049
retard
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>>736900179
damn, you got raped and gaped, utterly btfo by a retard? not a very good look for you.
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total korok death
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People have shit taste and no personality.
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>>736890630
The Zelda franchise is the most scrutinized franchise ever.
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I played almost the entire game without getting the autobuild power
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>>736890630
It wasn't. Don't be retarded. Never played it btw
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fuck yeah, finally somebody dumping some clips
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korok suffering never gets old.
unrelated though, does anyone have a clip of the laser block in action? it was like 12 lasers in a block formation all focus firing.
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>>736901840
you should add these two
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>>736895848
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>>736890630
It's a: one step forward two steps back, kind of a deal with everything
We have the mysterious underworld that expands the whole game area
>it's 90% empty shit, and exploring the darkness "wow effect" lasts for maybe 20min
We have sky islands! Another layer to explore!
>It's mostly babby tier puzzles, the same construct boss and the gatcha vendor machines
We have caverns to explore!
>meh stuff
We have a new fuse system for weapons!
>the menu is some mobile tier shit and make fusing new stuff a bore. Fusing horns has the same problem of durability weapons in botw.
We can build vehicles! Infinite possibilities!
>you can solve every movement problem with a 3 piece machine. Batteries don't last enough. You don't ever need to be creative to solve anything, be a combat encounter or a move challenge.
>story is a boring mess
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>>736902196
>>you can solve every movement problem with a 3 piece machine. Batteries don't last enough. You don't ever need to be creative to solve anything, be a combat encounter or a move challenge.
efficiency is the thief of joy.
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>>736890630
It wasn't "hard" or even "difficult". It was TEDIOUS. A game can be both easy and fun, but that doesn't mean that the tedium was any less of a block for it to stumble over time and time again. In a game whose main goal is to have the player build things, it gate-kept fucking everything: weapons, bows, shields, parts, batteries, basic building blocks, and the most unreasonable part of it all being time to complete a build due to fucking controller inputs when precise movements were needed in order to build your first "thing" of anything. Sure you could save the blueprint for future use, but you could only have so many of them and the parts were severely limited and managing to keep your stock of all of them up was a fucking gigantic pain in the ass.

You could only make so many dickswords before it became rote and trite. You could only make so many replicas of gundam/jaegers/metal gear before you ran out of parts. You could only do so many bare-bones little go-karts until you realized you only had 3 wheels left and had to drop whatever you were doing and go and restock. You could only go back to tarry town to unfuse shit so many times before you tore your hair out in frustration.

But the most damning thing of all is that you had to all-but beat the entire game to have most of these issues mitigated. Not even solved, but mitigated. Add to that the typical gripes of people who haven't played the game like recycled assets, the same god damned map, durability still being the major issue, heavy advertising of the sky and underworld when both barely even mattered, and being a "sequel" to BotW when there was literally nothing connecting the two beyond Link, Zelda, and a few minor characters that were in both so people could go "I 'MEMBER DAT"

It could have been SO MUCH more, but was only a caricature. A broken promise and let-down. Did it have its moments? Sure. But it wasn't worth the investment.
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>>736894326
To be fair it seemed like nothing really did damage and you had no trouble surviving even with just the first two upgrades for the set bonus. Compared to BoTW at least.
I didn't upgrade a single armor piece for the third time.
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>start it up for the first time the other day
>okay i need to build a raft for progression, and long logs length-wise just flip into the water with a sail
>oh i know what will get me the proper distribution of weight
>i'll build my rafts as X's
>it fuckin works the first time and then shits itself on the river stream with the device needed
>realize after i put it down for the time being that i was so fucking retarded that i forgot i could've just put the logs side by side like a real raft and instead just overcomplicated everything in the most autistic way possible
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>>736902587
>TEDIOUS
literally the only tedious thing is farming zonite. the depths are extremely dull and you need to farm a gorillion, and theres basically none on the surface.
>you could only go back to tarry town to unfuse shit so many times
who the fuck is unfusing anything? i dont even remember that being a function, let alone any reason i would want to do it. nothing is so rare and precious that you cant just get more of it easily.
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If a game has a giant mech in it and it sucks, the game is unsalvageable. Not only does Minaru suck but it may be the worst mech in any videogame ever. You spend sixty hours to get a customizable robot and it's clunky, slow, and can't even use fused weapons. The guns do absolutely no damage, the fact the beams don't even stagger people is absolutely insane. TOTK is a fucking joke and all these clips are of people fucking around and not playing the game because fucking around and pretending you're having fun is the only way anyone can possibly defend this garbage. Show another clip of koroks on sticks advertiser-chan, how about you show something that someone built making it through a single phase of ganons monster army. You can't, because they're not fucking viable for playing the game.
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>>736890630
Nintendo just makes psyop games nowadays.
You have to be funded by the Illuminati to actually want a Switch 2 since it'd be all free.
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>>736902869
>pretending you're having fun
lmao you think that we're pretending?
>making it through a single phase of ganons monster army
what does this even mean?
and here: >>736895935

people had plenty of combat builds, but i didnt save them at the time because i found the silly ones more entertaining. i would like to see the laser block clip again though.
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>>736903041
>What does a single phase of ganons monster army even mean
You fucking nigger, you didn't even get to the final fucking boss. Way to let the mask slip you dumb fuck. Now everyone knows you're full of shit. The game is so fun you didn't even finish it? Fucking clown
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I'm saying this as an avid lifelong Zelda fan who absolutely loved BOTW and considers it up there as one of the best Zelda's - TOTK was the biggest dissapointments Nintendo has ever churned out.

Ignoring the 6 fucking years it took them to cobble this thing together (It could and should have been done in less than 2 based on the product we got), the game was just awful. Anything new was just copy/pasted shit with nothing exciting to see.

Hyrule was the exact fucking same, and now boring as shit because after 100's of hours playing BOTW I know it like the back of my hand. This could have been fixed by just keeping Zelda in the present and making Link sleep for thousands of years instead, which would allow a major change in the world. They could have just kept the dragon time travel stuff. You want Purah and Robbie? Have them freeze themselves. The tech exists.

The sense of exploration was ruined, thanks to the underground. Spend a loooong time following dim light sources like a fucking moth, mark their location on the land above and there is the Shrine. The sense of wonder and discovery is just... gone.

The mechanics simply weren't as good as BOTW's. The vehicle thing was utterly useless once you have the Sail Cloth, the gale ability and horses. I had hopes when getting to Hyrule initially because I thought that would be balanced by ditching the Sail Cloth, but nope the game literally sends you to get it immediately, and you can't choose to not have it because most Shrines actually require it to complete.

The only thing it has is a superior starting area. The Great Islands or whatever they're called were very mysterious and full of intrigue (Great plateau was also good, but this was a step up). But once you're done with that it's back to BOTW land, a boring as shit underground and islands sky islands that have had no effort put into them

And don't get me wrong, I have TRIED to get into this game multiple times, in the end I just sold it. I really don't like it
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>>736903286
its been almost 3 years and all i remember about the end was diving down the deep hole and fighting ganon with a comically extended health bar and then the dragon. i dont recall waves of monster army, with the exception of the gibdo hives.
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>>736903423
Right before you fight ganon you have to clear three waves of enemies with the help of the sages. You can use auto build to beat it but there aren't any clips of it because you can't use vehicles to play the game. If you want to be a dumbfuck memelord then go do it but don't pretend they are clips of the game, they're clips of your dumb fucking autism. Every vehicle in the game is just shiny keys for retards just like you to keep you from noticing you can't use them to actually play the game. Next time before you come here being condescending and a dipshit make sure you actually played the fucking game first. What a fucking embarrassment you are.
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>>736893929
Actually valid and accurate criticisms coming from someone who sounds like they really did play the game. In a TOTK thread on /v/? What’s the world coming to?
It’s funny to me how easy it was to rectify the key issues surrounding the game (add more content to the skies and depths, more enemy types, don’t write the story as if it’s a standalone just so newcomers don’t have to play BotW) yet Aonuma and co. decided to spend an entire year before release (it was done by 2022) doing nothing.
At least with batteries + time limit + part limit there’s the excuse of the Switch’s hardware limitations and opting to prioritize game stability and memory management over free unlimited Ultrahand options, but that goes completely out of the window the moment the Switch 2 came out and the game receives a paid "enhancement" update that’s nothing more than unlocking the fps threshold limit for $10.
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>>736902845
>Still mogged by OoT
kek!
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>>736903659
totkfags would have the biggest meltie if the next Zelda game scored lower than 90
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>>736903612
>mogged by the highest rated game of all time
>every other game is also mogged by said game
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>>736903521
i looked up a video of what the fight even is, and yeah i dont remember that. i guess after hundreds of hours, killing some mobs just blended together and seemed like any other fight.
>You can use auto build to beat it but there aren't any clips of it
heres a video of somebody not doing any attacks and just using a construction though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wvBnWViuZY
i dont remember how i did back then, but i do know that i used a similar hoverstone and laser block thing to take out some "pirates" on a boat.
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>>736903752
Crazy how far SoulCalibur has fallen.
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>>736903612
>>736903752
>it was good at the time guys!
>IT WAS GOOD AT THE TIME!!!!
>no, dont honestly look at it. just look at these reviews from before there was anything else to compare it to or any developed standards!
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>>736903752
>GTAIV that high
grim
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>>736903612
I like both, but TOTK is a fun game, OOT was revolutionary, it deserves its note
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>>736902869
I used my freezebot+pointy stick for the final waves. I called him the 6th sage for shits and giggles too, since he was pretty much the most useful member.
It was pretty much the same as >>736895935, just with less parts and not overkilling it with multiple units. Stick a high damage weapon on a robot and save it so you can build more with ore instead of the weapon.
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>Love Lego
>Love Zelda
>Don't love them combined together in a rehashed map from the Wii U
Simple as.
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>>736903313
>Ignoring the 6 fucking years it took them to cobble this thing together (It could and should have been done in less than 2 based on the product we got)
The funny thing is that there's primarily one reason for this as far as I can tell, and it's one no one will notice without the right info or a habit of looking into game engines and logic. Monolith and Nintendo essentially rebuilt the entire engine a second time for stability and functionality purposes with the new features, stemming from their advancements on Switch hardware understanding since 2017 and with other games like Splatoon helping along the way. So really, for most of those 6 years TotK was more like a DLC concept that never got to seriously take off until they finalized fucking about with the engine. But because so many assets are copy-pasted and the new stuff is of identical quality level, no one would think that under the hood all that dev time went into restructuring everything. If the code was identical to BotW, Ultrahand would probably make the system shit itself.

It's not a GOOD reason mind you, but it's the technical one.
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>>736901574
WINDMILL OF FRIENDSHIP: ACTIVATED

>INITIATING WORLD FRIENDSHIP

FRIENDSHIP STATUS:
[############..] 97%

ALERT: JEW DETECTED
ABORTING WORLD FRIENDSHIP
ABORTING WORLD FRIENDSHIP
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>>736903521
you're awfully quiet after getting btfo
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>Ritual hatethread
>gets upended by gameplay webms and game discussion
>can't counter it because, despite posting about it for 3 years now (over 10 counting botw), he still hasn't played it
love to see it
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>>736890630
>BOTW2
>BOTW: Again
>BOTW: Additionally
>BOTW: One More
>BOTW: Repeated
>BOTW: Redux
>BOTW: DLC
>BOTW: Part Two
>BOTW: The Sequel
>BOTW: Second Editon
>BOTW: Furthermore
>BOTW: Continued

I loved BOTW but it was exactly as much BOTW I wanted. I didn't need anymore so I didn't buy TOTK.
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>>736903313
>>736904127
It's very worth watching the GDC talk on what they did for TotK and understand the lengths they took to get the game both consistent and stable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-dPDsLTrTE
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>>736896074
>all the quality porn of her is the furry version
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>>736890630
$80 DLC
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It's just not Zelda for me. Story is weird, mechanics is weird, no memorable music or places, sandbox and building just isn't it. I can understand how it could be fun if you're into that building and crafting stuff (and it is creative), but I'm not into it. Honestly, I played 60 or so hours in BOTW and I thought it was alright but this one didn't appeal to me.
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>>736890630
It is pure goyslop with no redeeming qualities. No Zelda veteran likes it.
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>>736896538
If a video is longer than 20 minutes, I go to Google Gemini, type “summarize this video,” and post the link.
It takes the transcript of the entire video and summarizes the main points.
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The thing I feel every time i see this game is the profound lack of purpose. Seeing these 15 second clips with some mildly funny physics interaction just leave me scratching my head in confusion. An adult male spent 30 minutes setting up a funny little clip that lasts 10 seconds? Are we really praising basic physics in a completely empty sandbox game? I don't get it. The new nintendo fanbase has been a disaster for gaming.
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>>736909378
>eric
qrd on him?
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How many times this past week did OP remake this thread now, 5 or 7? Why does he want to talk about how much he hates the same game every day
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>>736902279
Indeed, but it's not my problem as a player to find the fun. Dev's job is to find it, and with reason punish lame play.
Another example of this crap is that bullshit modular difficulty in doom dark ages
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i wonder why this spammer who only ever shows up to a specific set of zelda threads made by an assmad schizo going on 10 years now never uses sage to stop it from bumping
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>>736890630
It got too much praise for a long time because nintendo fans tend to screech at and chase off anyone that isn't singing the almighty praise. It was just good, nothing more. Similar problems as BOTW.
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>>736909715
Some get deleted in decent time whilst others drag on until bump limit.
If depends if the active janny actually cares.
If you notice a thread being spammed and casually take note of the md5 then in no time at all you can catch on to how much it's happening.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/sRbRGxczk9bT4ouLrbjSNw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/307mDT1VbPqGX_mmruX34A/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/xSsMS88NbF3ZYqqf5m85cg/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/l7fLAPGt_wNBaKHRgOC0yA/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/6Ish0UyXmgiUmwy0cCGDfw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/d0RbI47qIqrYmUg3kl3FEw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/ZpIP40FDhp-iTQJv8HhUuA/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/JlxUeh5Zs_nkfhQSfQMi_w/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/etFRHp_8rh0gjXJKjuSsMw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/DRUl_Zs-gTkn8e9Cyjzexw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Tg7jjS2IoNuYdT9PFg1L-w/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/8s_bD-s3m4WzF_6-dVrwaQ/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/HBAene32FE5tpAA6LdIThA/
Hundreds of examples. Not all of them necessarily the same guy, but its really obvious when it is.
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>>736910056
he also changes the md5 on all of his spam images to avoid hashbans, filters and archive fags keeping track of how many threads hes shit out in a decade, giga autistic schizo shit
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i dunno i still haven't finished it after like 3 years
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>>736910056
Get a load of this schizo
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>>736890630
Because it is bad.

The story is nonsensical dogshit.
The characters are stupid.
The combat is still boring as fuck dogshit and easily cheesed by eating 6 gorillion apples.
Weapon durability system is still dogshit.
Flurry Rush is a dogshit idea.
The enemy variety and boss variety is dogshit.
Yet another "super high tech advanced civilization from the past" trop is dogshit and overdone.
It only doubled down on the worst fucking dogshit aspects of BotW which makes it doubly dogshit, while at the same not doing anything interesting or well executed itself.
All sidegame content is mediocre or dogshit.
The "dungeons" are dogshit and nowhere near as good as in previous games.
The over all main gimmick of the game is dogshit and becomes very old very fast, old key item shit was better even if contrived.
Shrines are still dogshit and always will be. Dogshit shrines will never be a replacement for proper puzzles and dungeons.

The entire fucking game is just $70 DLC for BotW even after 6 years of "developement".
Only reason why BotW and TotK sold AT ALL is purely because they have the Zelda IP attached to them. If they were a completely new IP by Nintendo, everyone would've just called the games dogshit, never bought them and moved on.
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>>736890630
It wasn't.
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>>736910543
was this post ran through 4chanGPT or some shit
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>>736910487
Seeing something multiple times and coping it down for curiosity isn't schizo behaviour
Being the person actually making them hundreds of times over the course of years definitely is.

Now why would someone lash out at the person merely observing this....
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>>736910543
nvke of trvth
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>>736890630
>game about building vehicles has to make wings temporary to keep from breaking its own exploration
>game devs aren't smart enough to realize people are going to build the hovercycle
>spend all this time and money on a mechanic they're not smart enough to think of every possible use for, but also think they're smart enough to say "no, we make the wings go away, it would break the game"
>get seven years of input and reception from fans
>listen to exactly fucking none of it
>durability is worse now, shitty lore reason tacked on, enjoy sorting through endless menus for your dozens of food and shitty potion items
>take an already barebones story and make it a broken record of "SECRET STONE? DEMON KING?"
>no substance or implication to the story, no background "pay attention and you'll see it" thought put into the setting
>just a bunch of tired anime tropes, throw-away level design and a forgettable gimmick

Elden Ring learned and applied every single lesson Nintendo should have learned from Breath of the Wild. Nintendo's problem is that they think they're too good to listen to their customers, they're just so good at what they do, or rather, what the used to do, that they don't need to listen to the peasants below when they deliver their heavenly blessing unto them.

The "it's for kids" argument doesn't fly. OoT was for kids and that shit was full of japanese horror.
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>>736910543
>Shrines are still dogshit and always will be. Dogshit shrines will never be a replacement for proper puzzles and dungeons.
They were never a replacement for dungeons. If anything it was caves and your average cave in most games looked like this with one room and no puzzle.
There would also be half as many caves compared to shrines.
I'm not sure why you would pretend that there's no puzzle shrines either.
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>>736890630
I still cannot get over the fact they re-used BOTW's map and charged $70, any other company doing that would get them crucified
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>>736893929
>>Makes said bandaid required because the base weapons are weaker due to the malice - I mean gloom
I never understood that name change.
Like why? What's the fucking point? Malice and Gloom are just the same fucking evil goo shit that Ganondorf puts off.
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>>736910637
Yes, it's a big conspiracy that a few people are posting negatively of your favorite game. Could this be the work of the Jews?
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>>736895747
>0 damage
>takes so long to kill the random lowbie mobs the video has to make a cut
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>>736910543
>Yet another "super high tech advanced civilization from the past" trop is dogshit and overdone.
That's every zelda you fucking tourist.
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>>736910897
With the same images, and the same responses and the same points every single thread. It's blatant.
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>>736910938
It's obviously a tendie falseflagging
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>>736910938
don't forget the OP mass replying to everyone and calling them his schizo pet name
>>736910946
hi OP
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>>736911016
newfag
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>>736910946
Incredibly blatant.
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>>736890630
>universally hated
Nigger you need to stop listening to the autists here about whats bad.
Every game is simultaneously dog shit and the greatest game ever.
I played it. I enjoyed it.
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I HATE THIS THREAD.
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>falseflagging schizo is spamming 24/7
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>>736910906
Notice how in your examples the high tech society shit is a very small part of the actual game. Unlike BotW and TotK where in both games center around both in terms of mechanics and even plot, either centers around the ancient Sheikah and their crap, or centers around the ancient Zonai and their crap. And all that shit is fucking everywhere, unlike in WW or TP.
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>>736899718
kek how can anybody defend this?
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>>736911335
>all games - mechanised enemies
>Wind Waker - the entire tower of the gods
>Twilight princess - Temple of time / sky world / twilight realm
>Skyward Sword - the entire time travel stuff
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>>736911281
Who even is eric? I've seen this tardo spamming the same "you got raped eric" in every TotK thread, especially if people dare call it bad. (which it is)
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>>736890630
>7 years of development
>for rehashing the same map
>adding 2 empty maps
>still no dungeons
>member berries bait with dragon roost island remix
>no interesting love interest for link
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So I got to help the birds in the tornado of sky arks and I just reached Gerudo that became Raccoon Village.
I’m very puzzled though: are the Zonai, and Zelda for the matter, way back in the original Hyrule? Like, the post-Skyward Grounds that First Link threw Skyloft into the ground?
Or are they from some unespecified period pre-BOTW? I remember someone mentioning that BOTW is so distant from all previous Zeldas you can’t even pinpoint the split timeline as it could have been any and is intentionally ambiguous.
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If you watched any of these clips and think
>hey, that looks fun

Here are two games that do this better
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/346010/Besiege/

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4000/Garrys_Mod/

Both released many years before Nintendo copied the mechanics.
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>>736911482
nevermind this schizo faggot
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>>736896526
>>736896580
Wait what do you mean? Cause I can leave the game running while I go to work with a rubber band in my joystick to avoid AFK like back when I IV bred in Pokemon. How do I get those upgrades?
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>>736890630
It flopped hard. I'm too embarrassed to check what it's at now
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How do you fix this behavior?
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>>736911808
I want you to have a stroke, Eric.
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>>736911760
By asking this creature to post a timestamped pic of his switch. The guy is clearly just an Indian shitposter
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>>736911471
>>all games - mechanised enemies
Oh wow couple of mechanized enemies in gameswith dozens of enemies.
>>Wind Waker - the entire tower of the gods
Literally created by the very gods to test the hero, not by some civilization.
And only thing advanced high tech bullshit is Goden and couple of beemos.
Still only 1 dungeon in the game.
>>Twilight princess - Temple of time / sky world / twilight realm
Oh wow 1 and half dungeons in 1 game.
>>Skyward Sword - the entire time travel stuff
The gate of time works by fucking magic.

And again funny how you nitpick all these things from games where the game specifically DOESNT entirely center around the super high tech super advanced ancient civilizations.
Unlike BotW and TotK where the entire mechanics, enemies, items and even the fucking plot centers around 2 practically identical high tech civilizations.

Yes, TP is 100% exactly the same as BotW in setting and tone. Totally.
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Because most people didn't actually love Breath of the Wild, they just got sucked into the hype machine and this one is just Breath of the Wild again (literally) but even more boring this time.
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I wonder if the people who make these seethe threads about TotK are the same cultists defending all the flaws in Crimson Desert? I noticed Zelda seethe got a lot more common since that game released and considering it copied a lot from BotW/TotK, it might make sense.
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I don't know or care about who this person you're talking about is, but the top of this thread has some of the most obvious samefagging I've seen.
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It's good knowing that Zelda will be returning back to the old tried and true formula set by Ocarina of Time.
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>>736911860
Zelda has always been the most hyped Nintendo product, every year at E3 they were asked "What about a new Zelda?" as if it was Valve's HL3.
With botw they made something that nobody expected and was a must-have software for the Switch (albeit released for wii u that nobody owned)
It showed Nintendo that they didn't need to put any effort anymore cause people gobble up anything, hence Game Freak not making any substantial games, Mario rehashing same gimmicks, the company re-releasing the virtual boy and then making you pay for a 1 year subscription to replay gamecube/n64 games instead of 1 month
The slant-eyed became jewish
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>>736911939
>popular opinion
>"SAMEFAG SAMEFAG SAMEFAG"
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>>736911856
It's pretty obvious you quickly searched those things and got most of the information wrong. Especially if you think time travel was only the gate or that the TP things are "one and a half dungeons".
Can't believe people try to bullshit about series to people that actually know about it.
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>>736912030
You will get sores.
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>>736890630
It's just not a good game
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>>736890630
Since the game is good, I want to hear what Eric hater has to say about it.
Why is it good? What do you like about the game?
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>>736912423
At this point I don't actually think he really likes it.
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>>736891068
I used to think ToTK was good, but after turning off my adblocker and watching this video, I can see that the chad Eric was right all along.
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>>736890630
It wasn't, but it was definitely flawed. Too much of a rehash of BotW
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>>736912272
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>"the Nintendo fanbase is NOT unhinged"
>see this thread
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>>736912664
>>736912663
>>736912653
>>736912968

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736912968
Nintendies are basically disney adults of gaming.
They will get extremely angry if you dare even insinuate that Nintendo fucked up and made a subpar product.
I'm more weirded out that it is only really Nintendo fans who go this far. Sonyfags and Xboxfags can be obnoxious too, but even they can see and agree if Sony and Microsoft are making dogshit products.
It's only really Nintendofags who act like this where they view that Nintendo can do nothing wrong ever.
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>>736913345
>>736912664
>>736912663
>>736912653
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736913345
Would /v/ be better off if tendies got their own containment board?
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>>736914469
only when sonyfags and their exclusive movie games get sent to /tv/
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Do you hear something?
Yeah, me neither.
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>>736915165
>>736914469
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736893387
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>>736890630
I don't hate it. It's fun.

I don't obey or follow /v/'s tastes or online articles on polygon.
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>>736915427
>>736912664
>>736912663
>>736912653
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736890630
ITT: yet another /v/tard thinks /v/ is the only place where people express opinions on games.
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>>736915668
He's a spammer that only does it here because anywhere else would require accounts or has some form of ID system to prevent replying to your own thread 50 times to falsify a consensus.
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>>736891068
This video is just her spending three hours explaining how TotK does practically everything better than BotW. Only to conclude that TotK is terrible because she expected so much more from it.
It's a ridiculous video.
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>>736911158
its literally just 2 schizos spamming the same threads on here.

give it up loser, we love totk and botw.
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>>736890630
These niggas really made an $80 DLC of an already empty game
>See that mountain? You can go there and.... get a korok seed I guess
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>>736890630
I played it once and it was fun but I think I’m more likely to replay BotW if I ever touch these games again.
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>>736916375
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736915784
>her
>she
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>>736914469
Unironically yes.
Just gate off a board with all the pokemon shit and Nintendo IPs and keep them there.
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>>736915784
>TotK does practically everything better than BotW
In what way and how? Explain.
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They should bring thread IDs to /v/.
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>>736893929
>Doesn't fix weapon durability, slaps a bandaid on it instead
>Makes said bandaid required because the base weapons are weaker due to the malice - I mean gloom
It wasn't even a "bandaid". It made weapons more tedious than ever, because now instead of constantly picking up new weapons, you need to pick up weapon PARTS, and cobble them together before you can use them.

Too many gameplay elements these days involve just decompressing simple actions by adding unnecessary steps and calling it "depth".
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>>736917126
>>736917072
Nice sametrannying, Eric
Just make /snoy/ and rangeban op from here
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>>736917312
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736890630
BOTW was the better game with a sense of adventure and crazy stuff you can do in the open world while keeping to the idea of being an adventurer like link. ToTK just has you building legos to solve problems like an engineer when Link is supposed to be a swashbuckling hero. Also the wishy washy attempts of trying to be a BOTW sequel and yet not committing and reusing the same maps is really awful.
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>>736895520
>>736895747
>>736895801
>>736895848
>>736895883
>>736895935
I want a game, not "le ebin build your own amusement" Gary's mod bullshit.
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>>736890630
Overall I think its objectively the best 3D Zelda game. The only things holding it back is that the bestiary (and damage scaling relative to the bestiary) is STILL trash like in BotW. That and the story is lame, but that's not really important in a Zelda game.
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>>736917395
>>736917392
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736917392
I know it'll never happen because Aonuma is senile old fuck, but I wish they'd go back to the old OoT formula.
If the next game is gonna be similiar open world slop like we got in BotW or in TotK, the franchise might as well be dead.
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>>736890630
While it is impressive in a vacuum, it kind of sucks as sequel to Breath of the Wild, half-assing the continuity, and using the exact same surface map.
Story is also fucking terrible, there is no excuse for that.
There is nothing interesting in the sky, and depths are even worse.
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>>736917392
What's actually wrong with using the same map if the contents within it are different. You travel to the same locations and things have changed.
It's like saying every game set in New York is the same because the streets and buildings all have the same layout.
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>>736917484
>>736917493
>>736917508
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736917508
Ok sure, lets have Nintendo re-use the same map for 3rd time. Lets see how well that goes for the franchise and company.
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>>736917768
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736917768
Tendies would unironically defend shittendo using the same map again
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>>736917226
Do you think schizos really care about getting exposed for samefagging?

He's already copy pasting his same reply 100 times in the thread alone
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>>736917768
I'm not arguing it should be reused a 3rd time.
I'm questioning what's wrong with a direct sequel to use the same map with changes across the entirety of it in this manner.
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>>736917392
>ToTK just has you building legos to solve problems like an engineer
I didn't hate being able to build things, but it felt like needless decompression of normal mobility/puzzle solving that is core to the Zelda experience. Like, there's a gap you need to bridge, and instead of just having a fucking hookshot or a roc's feather, the game leaves all the pieces for a bridge right there and makes you go through the humiliation ritual of putting it together. Honestly I refuse to believe anyone with an inner monologue can find such "gameplay" entertaining or satisfying.
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>>736917927
>>736917950
>>736917996
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736917996
in BOTW you could just cut a tree to get to the other side. Organic, uses your sword as a cutting device. Feels natural and innovative for a video game to let you do this. Makes you feel like an adventurer.
In ToTK in comparison it just feels retarded and stupid and adds extra steps just for you to feel like a dumbass who just sat there to build a bridge instead of cutting a tree down.
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>>736918134
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736917962
NTA, but I think the game didn't change enough about the surface map, making it boring to explore the same thing again. All the dungeons are in same areas again, and environmental hazards mostly the same too.
Imagine if they had swapped the elements around, flooding the desert, freezing the Zora's domain, and so on. That would have let them use mostly the same map, but it would be given a twist.
Also, depths having almost no variety in the environment was massive missed opportunity. Just under the Death Mountain is hotter, everywhere else is the same. Why not have colder or hotter areas spread around, and different flora and fauna?

>>736917996
Making my own bridge/etc was kinda fun the first time, but then when I kept doing it, it just lost its shine. Not to mention when all of the challenges in overworld could be easily overcome with building similar stuff it was just boring.
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qrd on Eric and the schizo that seethes about him?
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>>736918134
You can literally still use an axe/two hand sword to cut down trees in ToTK. Hell it’s even easier to use them as makeshift bridges because Ultrahand works on logs, while Magnesis didn’t.
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>>736890630
endless copy pasted bokoblin camps in the overworld and underworld was incredibly insulting.
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>>736917962
>I'm questioning what's wrong with a direct sequel to use the same map with changes across the entirety of it in this manner.
There would be no actual issue with it, if they actually did it well. Which they didn't.

TotK map is just fucking empty as it was in BotW. Nevermind that exploring in both is practically a waste of time because only thing it gives you is fucking korok shit and 2 weapons that break in 3 hits. (I had to spend 4 other weapons just to clear the enemy camp)

Biggest criticisms for BotW was that the side quests and side game content was boring and lame as shit with even lamer rewards.
They did NOTHING to fix this in TotK
>here have 4 bananas (you already had 200 of them)
>here have 2 ruby crystals (you already have like 60 rubies in your inventory and you have like 3000 rupees in your wallet)
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>>736918453
>You can literally still use an axe/two hand sword to cut down trees in ToTK.
That's his point.
Why the fuck would he even bother interacting with the gimmick mechanic when he can just do that instead?

If I need to specifically go out of my way and FORCE MYSELF to NOT use the in-game mechanics/gimmicks, in this case Ultrahand/other zonai powers, to have FUN with the game and potentially to even bother exploring your empty as fuck map.
Why the fuck did you even add these mechanics in the first place?

That is blatantly and objectively DOGSHIT game design. You're a bad developer if you design a game like this.
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>>736918253
Yeah, I can't fault what you're saying. There should have more large-scale changes like the ones you mentioned to each zone, and the integration of the goron mines to the depths was better than the others being in the sky.
I like the changes in the desert for actually making it a more varied space instead of staying a big open sand zone. It was far more interesting going through when the sandstorm was still active too.
Really I'm pushing the question to that guy because it's a constant talking point that usually doesn't get answered. Just parroted with the same insistence that gets the intention and use of parts of the game completely wrong, like that guy.

>>736918602
Koroks aren't the end goal of anything. They are stuff you find on the way to your destination. Ignore half the ones you find and you can still max your inventory, this is by design because you're not obligated to get them all but still a marker that you've explored somewhere.
?bitching about resources, money and durability
If you have resources then use them. You're complaining about weapons breaking when each one lasts long enough to fill your inventory again. Longer if you fuse it with those abundant resources you keep moaning about.
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>>736890630
its only hated on /v/ by entitled retards
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>>736890630
for me it was botw but worse.

i was hoping it was going to be a brand new sequel with a brand new map. but it was botw with small changes and a dumb physics simulator game tacked on
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>>736891068
What you meant to say is only /v/trannies hate this game
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>>736918545
The problem with the "you can go anywhere and do anything and you have all the tools you need right from the start" gameplay model is that anyone with a brain is going to get bored less than halfway through the game because they realize they've effectively seen and done everything already. Reusing the exact same overworld only made things worse.
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Because I was expecting a mirror world like Termina in Majora's Mask to justify reused assets,

instead we got some weird expansion pack.
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>>736918936
>If you have resources then use them. You're complaining about weapons breaking when each one lasts long enough to fill your inventory again.
This is only a problem because of the retarded durability system that shouldn't have ever existed at all. It was never needed.
I'm going to complain about resources when they are fucking useless, I don't need 4 extra bananas or 2 more rubies, I got more than I can make use of.

And the combat is so god damn piss easy, thanks to flurry rush, I don't need to use the resources. And if I ever do make a mistake I can just open my BOTTOMLESS inventory at any moment and just heal to full by eating 6 hole meals or eating 100 fucking apples.


The game has literally 0 fucking incentives to do anything besides the fucking quest markers that progress the story.
If this dogshit was made by any other company like Ubisoft, people would call these games fucking soulless dogshit.
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>>736917768
Imagine being this delusional. Nintendo is literally printing money and getting universal acclaim while you sit here malding because you got filtered by a map. Everyone loves these games except for the vocal minority of contrarian /v/irgins.

Keep seething while the rest of the world has fun, anon. It’s worked out pretty well for them so far.
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>>736919207
yeap, thats right. there was hardly any reward for doing anything in this game.
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>>736919521
The durability means you're using different stuff all the time.
The fuses mean you have further differences in your weapons and can deal with more.
Oh and hey, that bottomless inventory is because you went out and got all that shit. You were actively doing whatever to get all that. It didn't magically appear on you.
You hunted passive wild animals to get meat. You climbed the trees to get the apples and you somehow complain about the fact you have all this stuff.
>6 hole meals
It's whole retard. If you learned how the cooking worked then you'd be able to fill your health up with single meals instead of half your supply, but maybe that's the games fault for not popping up an ubisoft menu to select recipes from and do it all for you.
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astounding.
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Are the Switch 2 upgrades worth it if I'm gonna completely ignore all the phone crap?
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>>736919207
BotW:
>you can go anywhere and do anything!
>you can every go to the final boss right from the start!
>because your entire toolkit is available to you immediately and the only thing that changes is weapons get stronger and enemies have more HP!
TotK:
>you can go anywhere and do anything! Again!
>yup, you've got all the tools from the start! Again!
>on the exact same fucking overworld! Again!
>are you fucking bored yet!?
It's really fucking crazy that nobody on the dev team stood up to point out what a horrid gameplay framework this was. It's fun for a while, but trying to sustain two entire games on it was a mistake. There was barely enough variety to sustain half a game.
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>>736920041
the 60fps alone makes it worth it.

the only useful shit on the phone app is the ability to share autobuild qr codes and use ones off the internet.
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>>736920150
Nice sametrannying, Eric. AI won't help you. The other seethe thread you spent 9 hours on just died ;)
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>>736920041
nah emulation is still better
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>>736920417
no shit retard my $5000 pc is going to be able to play the game better than the $400 switch 2. what an absolute brainlet statement. i cant take my 4090 desktop pc on a plane or car ride and enjoy the game now can i you stupid fuck?
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>>736920881
It's not worth it because you can get better for free you retarded cunt. Why do you need to play games on a plane you fucking manchild. Grow up.
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>>736903607
>don’t write the story as if it’s a standalone just so newcomers don’t have to play BotW
This point I brought up but didn't add, that was the real kicker. No Kass who you met all over the world, not one mention of the guardians who were a crucial element in the story and the world and only one offhand comment about the calamity. Why they outsourced the story is beyond me, but it shows.

>>736917312
>It made weapons more tedious than ever, because now instead of constantly picking up new weapons, you need to pick up weapon PARTS, and cobble them together before you can use them.
This too, and you still have an excess of materials that you can't burn through easily. It's just more busywork to extend the time you're playing the game.
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>>736890630
It's a bad sequel but not a bad game.
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>>736919207
>The problem with the "you can go anywhere and do anything and you have all the tools you need right from the start" gameplay model
Yeah this is the big issue, and this just highlights the massive flaws with the whole "maximum player freedom" idea Nintendo is going for. Because it leads to boring gameplay where people just bypass most things because they already know the rewards are pointless, but it is also just faster to go directly from point A to B.

And we know that this was an actual problem the devs encountered when making BotW, they originally thought about giving Link the clawshots, like in SS/TP, but then completely decided against it because it made all exploration pointless because you could just zoom everywhere and bypass all climbing, making the climbing mechanic entirely useless to boot as well.

The whole sheikah powers, zonai powers and even zonai devices, are just the same thing as the clawshot idea, it removes incentive to explore because you can just bypass everything and just go from point A to B directly and go anywhere. And this needs to be taken into account because all people WILL instinctually want to go through the path of least resistance.
And if that "path" is just making a zonai hover bike from 3 pieces, they WILL do so.
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>>736921014
incredible balance for someone who's incredibly off balanced
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>>736921014
>Why do you need to play games on a plane

the absolute state of this subhuman NEET. spoken like a true room-temperature IQ shut-in who hasn't seen the sun or left his mom’s zip code since the obama administration.



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