They were always a bit overrated? No? Aside from 007, PD and the first Banajo they made a lot of meh games.
>>736894928Banjo-Tooie is the best game they ever made and only ADHD zoomers with fried attention spans hate it. >improves on the first game in every single way>includes minigames that dont completely ruin the core gameplay but actually fit in quite well>levels actually take puzzle solving to figure out>grunty industries is the most infamous level because you actually have to work to unlock the factory, but once you do the jiggies start piling upIve 100% both Banjo titles 50+ times and Tooie is so much better and more creative. For sure a top 3 3D platformer, maybe even the very best one.
>>736895215Its a marathon collect a thon with some charm.
rare isn't a video game studio anymore lmao, they don't make games. They're a vaporware company.
>>736895301Sea Of Thieves is still popular.
>>736894928I played conker's bfd and it has not aged well (mainly the camera and humour) it could be better with a patch to fix the camera and maybe a slight speed increase.
>>736895409Did you play the remake they did on the 360?
>>736894928I don't think so, they always knew how to work the hardware to do marvelous things, they released games quickly and had a peculiar sense of humor. Also their music was always top notch even if the games were complete shit. This is especially true for their NES releases.
>>736895336No one actually cares about that pirate slop
>>736895459The rare replay version.
>>736895336Hi, Banjo-Tooie fag from >>736895215Sea of Thieves is dead. I have tried to play every Rare title, and have gotten through most of them. Loved sea of thieves, put nearly 3k hours into it but the updates from the removal of arena and the addition of captaincy to now has been an extreme decline in quality. Rare also had the majority of their staff gutted by microsoft so now the teams cant even get the mediocre slop updates out on time. SOT is dead, and unless they get some major funding to put into a sequel it wont be coming back, as it stands the engine is fucked, hit registration with guns and swords still doesnt work, server instability is as awful as ever due to Microsoft Azure cloud servers, and optimization is at its worst, especially with kernel level anticheat that hasnt stopped a single fucking cheater and the game is still crawling with them. Fuck sea of thieves. I loved the pirate adventure and PVP but its nothing like the game I fell in love with anymore. >>736895290its way more than that and you know it faggot
>>736895409It always relied too much on movie references instead of jokes, but it was still a fun ride. It's not very replayable at all.
>>736895503It was actually very popular anon, and I still think it is esp for how old it is now.
>>736895503Apparently tons of people do. You're nobody in that context, I suppose.
>>736894928That could be said about every vidya company, so dunno what's your point
>>736895516Microsoft Azure I remember these being a selling point during the one x's reveal
>>736895586Not Nintendo and a few others
>>736895409The humor aged fine to me but im also nearly 30 and get all the references so I think a younger person might be out off by that. The gameplay is really abysmal as soon as you get to Spooky because the FPS controls are atrocious, Live and Reloaded fixes those issues but removes so much of the soul in the process its kinda hard to recommend one over the other. A modern port with tighter FPS controls, widescreen, and higher framerate support would fix a lot of that, IMO
Grabbed By Ghoulies vs Jet force Gemini?
>>736895594Its basically office worker server infrastructure and is abysmal for game server performance. Doesnt help that unreal 4 cant handle all the physics calculations that have to be made for the ships and wind and such, so gun damage gets dropped a lot because of that as well as general server desync.
>>736895534I didn't mind the movie stuff. what really made me cringe was TGMP boss, the bull, and song.
>>736895698I love Ghoulies actually. Really fun underrated beat em up.
>>736895516No banjo is annoying and 3d platformers have always been shit. Platforming as a genre shouldve stopped at mario 64 and should never be considered a real game unless it was mario for nostalgia
>>736895717Why does it seem most major release games have shit servers? 2k abysmal, activision and cod terrible, ea and bf bad etc...
>>736895698Jet Force Gemini is probably me favorite N64 game. Top 3 at least.
>>736895642PC Decompilation could fix this. If they also somehow added online it would be amazing. I did enjoy the xbox remake but besides the issues others already pointed out, I was really disappointed that they replaced the multiplayer with a generic team deathmatch.
>>736895760Platforming is the only real genre of video games. Its the purest form of vidya. Only dumb pseudo intellectual redditors think otherwise>>736895768Yearly release games probably dont get much work done in the server side since in a year the majority of the playerbase will move on to the next thing. In Sea of Thieves case Rare is just in a shitty position of bad netcoders, most of the crazy talented programmers being long gone from the company, and being forced to use Microsofts servers instead of having dedicated systems for it.
>>736894928the overall package (better graphics than Nintendos own Mario and Zelda games, edgy humour, lots of content) was fine for kids and teens. but the gameplay was never particularly complex
>>736895895I know work on Tooie and Conker is being done from the recomp team, they seem like the ones who will get it available first, Tooie especially since Banjo-Kazooie has already been recompiled and Tooie is just an upgraded Kazooie with more dev resources left in the game.
>>736895641Nintendo has tons of mediocre games anon, even their small IPs like Chibi Robo have at least one meh game
>>736895215>heavily recycles same set of minigames>majority of new moves are glorified context sensitive switch activators or absolutely useless>backtracking is tripled, some objectives require entering 2-3 worlds for ONE jiggy>transformations are an even bigger mixed bag with some having one single use like the TNT and snowball or being objectively better-than-Banjo all-around forms like the van and bee>thanks to the T-rex, Terrydactyland is a boring wasteland>level design goes off a cliff after Witchyworld>lost some of the soul of the original (not more talking items, Grunty stops rhyming)
Worst Rare game, not counting the NES shit.
>Not counting shit that is actually awful, I want to shitpostJust call the SNES DK Country or any of their N64 games shit or something if you want (you)s
>>736896172meant to add a ????
>>736895642Most of Conker's humor is toilet humor and swearing up until Spooky. After that it just goes full movie references.
>>736896387But its funny
>>736896387yeah? and? you gotta be underage if you think youre too good for toilet humor.
>>736894928I think most of their 16-bit and 64-bit output was alright, and a lot of it still holds up today. Goldeneye was always crap, though.
>>736894928Conkers up to Dracula's castle was pretty good, if not for the absolutely abhorrent quality of the rest of the game it'd be a favorite of mine.
>>736896520Scenes with the barn trio or the general are objectively funnier than haha caca
>>736896551Excuse me?
>>736896608the poop chapter from the bulls and cows until you defeat the great mighty poo is hilarious, honestly conker kinda loses its humor in Spooky onwards.
>>736894928They were pretty much the only non-Nintendo studio consistently putting out anything noteworthy so it's warranted. Goldeneye is probably the only one that truly aged horribly.
>>736895336popular as the sinking ship you mist say
>>736897027lol
>>736894928>company calls itself rare>not a single game is well doneFucking food analogies.
>>736894928DKC series into GoldenEye is a level of quality few developers have matched.
>>736895215>Banjo-Tooie is the best game they ever madeDKC2 is their best game, and DKC3 was already pushing their luck with the collect-a-thon shit.
>>736894928Diddy Kong Racing
>>736898493what did they mean by this?
>>736894928
>>736894928>They were always a bit overrated?Well? They were in their Prime when they were with Nintendo.
>>736895215Tooie also has great continuity for a game sequel, we don’t see this that much these days.
>>736895336>Sea Of Thieves is still popular.It's been dying a slow deathAs far as Microsoft studios go, Rare isn't the obvious choice of closure but they're on a limited time to just squeeze out their survival like before
>>736894928>They were always a bit overrated? No?No.>best technology/graphics of the hardware they worked on>extremely diverse ability, exploration games, racing, shooters, fighting, platformers, featuring a wide variety of mechanics and producing definitive titles in each>two of gaming's most iconic musical composers at the studio, only beaten out by Koji Kondo in terms of repertoire>most importantly, passed the positive memorability test for 30+ years at this point90's RareWare is still unprecedented. There will never be another studio like it producing multi-genre libraries of banger games year over year. It just doesn't exist anymore in studios. Even back then they were blowing competition out of the water with output quality.
>>736900492>RareWare*RareThey were and still are just called RareRareware is just what they called their games (as in, Rare + Software)
>>736900517That's what I said faguette.
>>736894928The voice acting in conker is really fucking awful. Almost every voice has really weak delivery with no power, like the VAs were all whispering trying not to wake their mum.. or they have some permanent voice damage like marges VA.it's really hard to hear in parts. did they even use a compressor?
>>736901112The voice acting is 95% Chris Seavor and part of the appeal. It's obviously just the game director in the booth shitting out a funny delivery off the cuff. The goofiness of the VA is part of the humor. Seavor mumbling his lines into the mic for a laugh.This was back in the day where voiceacting was often just the janitor at the studio or the guy who does art assets like Matt and Trey doing all the South Park voices.
>>736894928>Rare is overrated aside from their most overrated gameswhat kinda bait fuel have you been consuming to come up with this shit? i want some.
In their prime Rare game were as anticipated as Nintendo games.Also Diddy Kong Racing isn't mentioned enough
>>736894928Honestly even 007 was kinda shit. It was popular and somewhat unique on its system, but compared to other fps games that existed at the time it was full of weird design decisions.Rare have always made mid games with one or two stand out gimmicks that elevate them. Sea of thieves being the pinnacle of that ethos with its god tier ocean and neat as fuck sailing but godawful repetition and purposeless grind.
Weird, I was thinking about making a thread like this lately after replaying Tooie, DK64, and Conker.DKC and Kazooie are good. Best everything else is either shit or mid at best.Tooie is midConkey is shitGhoulies is shitDK64 is shitNuts and bolts is midPirate game is shitRares best are good games, but on the whole they are very overrated
>>736895215Jolly Roger, Grunty Industries, and Hailfire peaks are miserable to play
>>736894928They made some fun NES games, but I think they went downhill after that.
>>736895215tooie tries to be a metroidvania but does so in the most half-assed way possible of having the occasional one or two jiggies that need some item or level entrance from a later level. it completely misunderstood what was appealing about the original game and the cloud cuck land minigame is the biggest bullshit of all time. the fps levels are top tier though and the new abilities are pretty good
Backtracking isnt really the issue with Tooiez I think people just simplify to a single word.Its more just the challenge or "mission" design of collectibles, where even within a single level each collectible seemingly requires a 5, 6, 7, 8z etc step very specific process involving going over half if not all of the map.Collectibles are fun when theyre there and obtainable, with maybe one trick or gimmick to them. When it becomes a process its no longer fun. Same issue plagues the last few levels of Kazooie
>>736895409live and reloaded is the better version, censorfags can go fuck themselves
>>736894928Nah, Rare is really the company that makes rare games, as in better than average. Just look at everything they've touched, it's always good. From Jet Force Gemini to Diddy Kong Racing. The Banjo game on 360 gotta be one of its best exclusives.
>>736903279>everything they've touched, it's always good. From Jet Force Gemini
>>736903279>The Banjo game on 360 gotta be one of its best exclusives
>>736903312That game is everything dude, if it was on PC it would be in the top 5 for the best games in that decade. It was hyper immersive, had rather bad controls but unique and creative enough.>>736903605Act like there's so many great 360 exclusives lol. Easily one of the most heartwarming experiences.
>how it feels when you're the only sane person in a thread
>>736903681>this. is. everything.
Conker is great
Conker is shit
>>736903765Expoose YOU?
Conker is
>>736901176It really is just Chris, the only woman they had on the team and the one guy on the team who knew how to sing opera. The animator admitted she didn't know how to do American accents and you can tell, Berri has a really heavy Irish accent at times, but there's a charm to it.She also had nightmares of burning squirrels cause she had to animate the Private Ryan part for months. So that's amusing.
>>736895215It may be bloated by modern standards but it didn't feel like this back in the day. If you had a N64 there wasn't much to play to begin with. You'd get a game at birthday or some events so you had plenty of time to invest into a game. Awkward if you rented it of course.
>>736895215it was bad
>>736904152>but it didn't feel like this back in the dayI hate when people say this shit. Even at the time it was criticized for being "too big" and "empty". It's not a recent issue.
>>736895215Comparing this shit to Super Mario 64 as the best3d platformerNope, youre looking at an adventure game, perhaps third best to OOT and MM
>>736904262as kid the situation is simply different and thus the perception of the game. I don't think I'd bother with tooie nowadays as well but when I was young I could play it up and down for weeks if not months
