>an action game that filtered players so hard by removing cheap crutches such as utol/ninpo spamming and healing items from prior entries that despite receiving a lot of hate, the only flaws it's detractors can mention are "muh difficulty" and "muh story", which are inherently weak criticisms for an action game. how did it do it?
>>736899505I wouldn't call it flawless, but it's a massive improvement over 2. Even using the bow manages to be fun when it was horrid before.
it really is the best game in the series
>>736899580nothing ever is flawless really but it perfected itagakis work in ng2. the retooling of the way ut, ninpo and healing worked made the combat loop feel so much more engaging, all of the parts come together cohesively in a way it didnt in ng2. you have to work for your heals by building up the ninpo meter. also bloody rage being a multipler based on killstreak whilst also allowing you to instant ut after its charged up is an excellent risk/reward mechanic, much better than just constant utol spamming like in prior entries. in ng2 like half of the playtime was watching mini cutscenes play out or operating sub menus, glad re fixed this.
>>736899505God, playing this makes playing 2 (Sigma) so fucking bizarre man. I can't really judge it against vanilla2 because, well, i never played it. But i came to like it. I still think the main plot is beyond retarded and was fully willing to defend it. And the level design might as well be nonexistant. But good god, once the combat clicks, it shines like no other. I'm dumped hours into the ninja Trials and chapter challenges. Kasumi is my wife.
>>736900021combat is pretty much the only thing that matters in action games when all is said and done. glad you're able to see the light.
>>736899505I thought it was mid
>>736900181filtered
>>736900358Combat got kinda samey
>>736900425thats your opinion, fine. but regardless, it is objectively less samey than other entries since it has by far the most expansive move list in the series and plenty of enemy variety.
>>736900518all of which are worthless when the most optimal thing to do is spam SoB lol
>>736899505>worst level design>rail shooting sections>QTEs>unskippable forced walking sections with more QTEs>most dogshit bosses somehowBut hey you can spam SoB instead of UTs, so it's gotta be flawless, right?
>>736900587sobs are op admittedly but they are at least limited window of opportunity, requiring good reflexes/timing whereas in other games you can spam uts after each kill(uts almost always kill so you can just chain them together constantly). also sobs at least have the courtesy of the animation not taking 10 working days to complete. its just the same shit constantly watching cutscenes over and over during fights, id rather just play a jrpg at that point.
>>736900590Chapter challenge fixes that.
>>736900590>most dogshit bosses somehowOther than the goddess and the chopper, they are fine for the most part. I sure would rather fight the dinosaur over most of the four fiends. Ironically, 3RE brought back a lot of classic bosses and they are somewhat more bearable than they were in 2.
This is the first time I see this kind of opinion.I just got into NG last year (through PC and modding), so I played the uncucked versions of 1 and 2.I think 1 is a masterpiece, I loved the overall mood of the early game. But it railroads you too much into a single playstyle after the third difficulty.2 was special, it felt very improved at times, but at others, felt like it had too much going on, to the point I can only guess Itagaki decided he'd throw shit at the stages and left it to the players to figure out what to do.I've heard Razors Edge fixes many of the problems in 3, but there's barely any genuine conversation about it other than its messy pre RE release.
>>736900848>there's barely any genuine conversation about itshitters got filtered hard
>>736900590>oh wow you have to do like 3 or 4 10 second wall climbing segments each stage. the horror. in ng4 half of the levels are just linear pointless filler gliding/grinding/surfing sections on the other hand.>rail shooting sectionsif you know how to slide dash cancel after firing with the bow you shouldnt have an issue because these sections are braindead easy. nowhere near as bad as the ng4 rail grinding sections. >>unskippable forced walking sections with more QTEsliterally the case in almost every action game, including ng4, bayonetta games, mgr, astral chain. try again.>>most dogshit bosses somehowits similar boss design philosophy to the itagaki games with the unpredictable patterns of humanoid bosses. if you're criticising res boss design you're basically criticising ng1-ng2 as well. >But hey you can spam SoB instead of UTs, so it's gotta be flawless, right?lets not pretend sob is anywhere near as easily exploitable or as tedious as the utol spam in ng2. sob at least requires reflexes/timing and is as readily available as it depends when the enemy goes for the red grab. nor does it take nearly as long for the animation to play out. uts in ng2s are basically cutscenes and unfortunately they have inv frames all throughout whilst overpowering every other tool in ryus kit and being accessible after merely a single kill so it is optimal to just spam them over and over.
>>736900731he wouldnt have got that far to unlock cc by beating the campaign, he got filtered
>>736901042*almost every modern action game
>>736899912Really wish ninja gaiden 4 was just more of the same.
>>736900880basically this. 99% of the whining is just itagaki fanboys seething that the game is too hard for them because they cant resort to cheese strats like essence utol spamming or that they have to actually work for their heals now.
>>736901117>he got filteredWokebladder
>>736901174ng4 is such a pile of dogshit its unreal how bad they fucked it up. platinum needs to fold their studio, they are nowhere near as good as they used to be in the early-mid 10s.
DMC1 is better than any of your shitty poser Ninja Gardens
>>736899505>forced QTE sections>worst enemy variety in the series>shortest campaign in the series>some of the most dogshit bosses in the series>terrible "we want to be CoD + Resident Evil" story>wastes the most time with retarded cutscenes and walk and talk exposition segments in the series (yes, even more than 4)It's a good game but come on now.
Who the fuck do you think you are. Total Biscuit?Do you even have the Media Literacy to be a critic?No. Fumking kill yourself
>>736901948>forced qte sectionsfrom this alone i can already tell you got filtered since these were removed in chapter challenge, which you unlock by beating the campaign.
>noooooo u don't understand it's just bait to get the right opinion durrreeeeUntruthful scheming little nignog
>>736902037>they remove a dogshit element of the game after you beat the campaign where you are forced to engage with said dogshit elementAbsolute nigger-tier argument.I guess that means that NG4 doesn't sideline Ryu since you can play as him in the chapter challenge after you beat the game (where you only play as him in only 4 missions out of 19)
Yeah I'll come here & show you retards who's the boss too. It's not you buddy.
>>736902126ng4 is garbage for a lot of reasons but any action gamer worth his salt who cares about replay value wouldnt care too much about the limited chapters with ryu on first run the same reason one wouldnt care about qtes on a first run in re. the amount of time a dedicated player spend grinding out chapter challenge would take infinitely longer than a single campaign run after all. you even admitted the campaign is short, so it shouldnt be much of an issue to clear it the first time. sounds like you're just a tourist who doesn't actually care about exploring the combat.
Rate my sick ass Media Literacy:https://backloggd.com/u/Terricule/played/I even forget all the games I ever beated. I know it's in the thousand.You're all weak pansy faggots.
>>736902362I play through the campaign once, maybe twice if I really like the game and the changes for a higher difficulty level/NG+ are meaningful (if it's enemy damage and hp + 50% then it goes into the trash) and move on. I don't grind the same game for months. I have hundreds of other games I could be playing instead.When I eat a chicken wing I eat all the chicken of the bone, I don't gnaw on the bone until all the chicken particles have been absorbed.On a single playthrough, NG3 provides the least amount of fun and offers the least value out of all NG games.
To top it off here's my epic 3x3.Now what exactly do you have to show for yourself................uhhhhh.....................I guess you can type a wholee bunch of garbage I guess. Nigger
>>736899505Wow, spamming xxyyy, xxxyyy, yyy for every encounter with any weapon until everything dies in Razor's Edge is so much more interesting than spamming OT UT and the same two shortest attack combo in NG2. Yawn.NG2, Sigma2, and Razor's Edge fanboys' brains would explode if they ever played Ninja Gaiden Original Sigma Black, the game with actual level design and combat where spamming UT and flying swallow ousted them as the faggots like they are their brains would explode.
>>736899505>interactive movie>based on a game that betrayed the Ninja Gaiden IP>character assassinated RyuEat shit Hayashi. NG3:RE and NG3 will always be hated by the True Fans of Ninja Gaiden.
>>736902534tourist confirmed
>>736899505The forced QTE and the half assed ssssssssuck to target mechanic are kind of bad
>>736902640yes, using actual strings to fight is better than spamming inv frame cutscenes over and over until everything dies.
>>736902654>hated by the True Fans of Ninja GaidenShitters been using this excuse for years. You got filtered.
>>736902439>Quantity over QualityYou are subhuman.>>736902596Only DMC1 is decent, everything else is garbage.
>>736902654>cares about characters in an action game>interactive movie>has katana zero and ng4 on his 3x3, proving himself to be a hypocriteyet again another re hater exposing himself as a casual tourist, not realising that chapter challenge(which you unlock by beating the campaign) gets rid of the qtes
>>736902795Haya(ku)shi(ne) you subhuman gook. NG3:RE is piss easy, but extremely boring.
>>736902762filtered by first run #364086082 next
>>736902827>Beep boop 10000100100You're a fucking robot. Don't ever talk to me again pussy.
>>736902836>yet again another re hater exposing himself as a casual touristI played these games before you even knew about them.>not realising that chapter challenge(which you unlock by beating the campaign) gets rid of the qtesDoesn't change the fact that the game is an interactive movie and was based on NG3, the foundation is dogshit, a betrayal of the IP and a betrayal of Ryu Hayabusa.Neck yourself.
>>736902904What are you going to do about it? DMCuck?
>>736902954Spam you with my own set of BTFO's.I literally can not lose. Wanna go?
>>736902976Me: Quality > QuantityYou: Quantity > QualityWe already know who the winner is.
>>736903004>Retard who can't choose 1 NG thinks he can lecture meYeah you're really cute.
>>736901352Ng4 is by far the best game that came out of platinum Bayonetta is so shit what do people find in it
>>736903053ng4 is possibly the worst triple a action game ever made. just an incoherent clusterfuck of conflicting mechanics. zero respect and faith in the series identity. trades the strategic, intense and grounded feel of previous ng games for generic anime comboslop with unoriginal mechanics and sandbag enemy design. it's a culmination of basically everything wrong with the post-dmc5 era of action games, made to appeal to tourist scum who have never played a real ninja gaiden before.
>>736903034Because NGB, NGII and NG4 are all very different games and excel at different things. A DMCuck can't comprehend this, because you had 1 decent game, that being DMC1, then Shitsuno came and ruined the entire IP with dogshit games.
>>736903161NG4 is the best NG game you mongoloid.
>>736903231>Because blahblahblahDude you forgot the part where I don't give a shit.
>>7368995053RE is a mechanically unshackled vanilla 3 which was a game equivalent of being in a cock cage - all the animations/combat and potential were still THERE in vanilla 3 but they were intentionally held back by retarded direction and narrative focus.3RE is a great salvaging/retooling effort but it still carries too much stinky leftover residue of the vanilla 3 like the forced walking sections and some QTEs. They removed that shit as much as possible but it's still there which tells you just how misguided vanilla 3 was. This is what makes 3RE a mixed bag and puts it bellow previous two and all their versions. HOWEVER it's still a great action game on its own.It's still an actual Ninja Gaiden game. Much closer to its TN identity and pace than NG4 ever will be.>>736902654Your father is a nigger.
>>736903264tourist pleb. you dont have an opinion.
>>736903281Coping mechanism.
>>736903231NGS is better than NGB by all accounts.Why pretend to be a purist but then elevate the niggershit that was NG4 to NG2 level?Why even seethe at DMC when NG4 is just a worse version of DMC4?
>>736903283>forced walking sections and some QTEs.didnt beat main campaign to unlock cc mode, filtered.
I'm not a fiddle.
>>736903161It's too original for you clearlySandbag my ass
>>736903283>It's still an actual Ninja Gaiden game. Much closer to its TN identity and pace than NG4 ever will be.Nope. NG4 is much closer to and loyal to the NGB and NGII Itagaki vision than that Haya(ku)shi(ne) abomination NG3 and NG3:RE ever will be.You weren't here since the start with NG 2004, you are a wannabe and a secondary, forever.Words can't describe how happy I am that NG4 was made by Platinum Games and not Nu-Team Ninja. Nu-Team Ninja is incompetent and dogshit, they even ruined the Nioh IP with Nioh 3, lmao, retarded faggots.>Your father is a nigger.Of course, insecure racism on top of dogshit taste and being a secondary, fitting.
>>736903425
>>736902768>using actual strings to fightFight what? Braindead enemies that do nothing but fail at blocking and dodging those one of three strings for the 4 hours it takes to beat that mediocre campaign with no level design?Razor's Edge and NG2 fanboys really hate action games.No wonder real games like Ninja Gaiden 4 which has enemies that actually fight and push back unlike the braindead fuckers in RE and 2 give them a meltdown.
>Dude check out my wall of garbageWoooooooah very impressive. Doesn't mean you're good at the games retard. Just means you got too much to prove ahahahahahhahahahhah. Fucking loser.
>>736903425parries, perfect dodging, tacked on super mode ,dodge offset, wait until enemy does big glowy attack to dodge or use meter attack like literally every other platinum game. so original.
>>736903435>says subhuman gook>but bitches out when recognized as a projecting shitskin Yakumo Ninja Gaiden Z will forever be subhuman niggershit for raped mutts.Kill your whole fucking family, cuck.
>>736903506>"ng4 has enemies that actually fight and push back"april fools was two weeks ago
>>736903345>NGS is better than NGB by all accounts.Nope. Female chapters are dogshit, this makes all NGS, NGS2, NG3:RE dogshit.NGS is input delay and is less responsive than NGB.NGS fucked with the enemy AI and is a shittier version of NGB.You would know this if you played them side by side, but you didn't.>Why pretend to be a purist but then elevate the niggershit that was NG4 to NG2 level?NG4 is one of the best action games ever made.NG4 is much closer and more loyal to NGB and NGII Itagaki vision than the Haya(ku)shi(ne) abominations of NG3 and NG3:RE ever will be.You do not understand these things because you are a secondary and never grew up with Ninja Gaiden 3D games. You weren't here from the start.>Why even seethe at DMC when NG4 is just a worse version of DMC4?Shitsuno can't even make a game that can compete with the DMC1 which is decent at best, claiming he can made something better than NG4 is peak comedy.God is on my side.NG4 was made by the superior Platinum Games and Nu-Team Ninja who are incompetend and dogshit.Shitsuno got humiliated and DMC IP is dead.Maybe Kamiya will make a good DMC game when he does DMC1 Remake or DMC6 after he is done with Okami 2.
Now you're going to play ignorant and sit around proxy posting. You're cringe. Me. Based God Gamer.
>>736903534HayaSHIT a.k.a Haya(ku)shi(ne) is a subhuman gook and deserves to be called a subhuman gook.I am not black and I do not deserve to be called the N-word.
>>736903589>NGS fucked with the enemy AI and is a shittier version of NGB.You cannot provide proof of this even if you wanted to, faggot.NG4 is still good.
>>736903589>NG4 is one of the best action games ever made.It's not even the best Platinum game. Not even second best.
>>736899505Just played the whole series recently and yeah, I would rate them>3 > 1 > 4 > 2
>>736903586You "hardcore" ninja fanboys cried a river of tears that Yakiniku gets easily gunned down when charging a UT or that enemies block and slap him out of a mid air combo, or the general peppering of mid air projectile spammers in general.
Feels good never being humbled.And I never will be. Woohoo
>>736903687here king you dropped this
>>736903696the divine knights are ok, the rest of the enemy roster in that game are sitting cucks. unless you're on master ninja which comes with its own issues.
>>736903687>>736903720There is absolutely no need to falseflag. Keeping 3RE and people that like it as overhated in discourse is already the static default.
>>736903642I do not need to provide proof, because it is true and all True Ninja Gaiden Fans who played NGB and NGS side by side know this.I wanted to make a detailed video about it in the past, but decided to abandon the project, because it is an excellent way to determine who the secondaries and tourists are (you) and who the true fans are who have been with the IP sine NG 2004 (me).Instead of wasting your time and life shitposting on 4chan, you could have gotten a job and some money to afford to get an xbox and play the superior versions and you would know, but you are a subhuman secondary wannabe that started playing these games with the dogshit "Master Collection".It is very obvious.I read you like an open book.You will never ever belong.
Ninja gaiden 3 played like fucking ninja blade which was a cheap copy of ninja gaiden 1/2. Take your QTE filled shit game and shove up your ass, 3 was fucking garbage. It was the resident evil 6 of the series, filled with modern slop that plagued AAA games back then
>Hide Post>Hide Post>Hide PostThumbnails off so I can't be Mind Controlled either.Discussion is a Psy Op
>>736903686It is the best Platinum Games game ever made.Platinum Games has never been better, NG4 exposed you subhumans and your shitposting about how "all the talent left Platinum Games".
>>736903745Okay, flat earther chan.
>>736903759People that like Requiem but think 6 is bad never played 6 because they're secondaries.
>>736903687i applaud that you have the intellectual wherewithal to recognise 3re as supreme. id swap 2 and 4 however. 4 is utter dogshit, its ng in name alone, platinum gaymes failed ng/dmc mutt experiment.
Razor's Edge is very underrated. At first I hated it but by the time I unlocked everything I loved it.
>>736903743>>736903759cope
>>736903801>eating shit is very underrated.>at first I hated it but by the time I ate so much that my brain got accustomed to eating shit, I loved it.
>>736903801you either die a ng3re hater or play it long enough to realise its peak. another one sees the light.
>>736903812>cringe writing>character assassination of ryuKill yourself secondary NG3:RE subhuman.
>>736903780>"all the talent left Platinum Games".I never said this because I never blamed Platinum for Square's BF fuck up. I also never blamed Platinum for paying their bills with mercenary work like TMNT/Korra/Devastation/SF or whatever.NG4 isn't bad. It just isn't NG and it's arguably not even Platinum's top 3
>>736903812>another storyfag who is in the wrong genresuch many cases
So yeah. If you never played DMD New Game then your opinion literally does not fucking matter in any capacity.
>>736903865>NG4 isn't badIt is one of the best action games ever made if not the actual best action game ever made.>It just isn't NGIt is very NG.
>>736903861>character assassinationBut enough about Hayabusa letting millions of Tokyo japs get raped to death by demons on NG4 and Yakumovich saving the day instead.
>>736900590Most of them got fixed in razor's edge>Dogshit bossesNg never had good boss fights
>>736903856It has a very rough start and only slowly dripping it's meager selection of weapons to you via scarabs but it's a solid game. I was expecting to hate the Dinosaur but I thought there was nothing really wrong with it, there are MUCH worse bosses in 3RE and in the franchise as a whole.
3 is a much better game than 2, for sure. But it's still much worse than 1. And 4 completely mogs them all.
>>736903904Sorry Yakumocuck but that will never be the case.
>>736903865>I never blamed Platinum for Square's BF fuck upI do. They already made a proto GAAS slop with loot grinding that people liked. It was called Transformers Devastation. All they had to do was slap squeenix brand fantasty art assets into that poverty bayonetta template they have been reusing for eternity, and they still fucked it up.
>>736903831People that hate NG3RE hate NG.
>>736903961the start filters a lot of people due to limited heals, relentless encounters and so on but once it "clicks" its hard to go back to any other ng. the mechanics are all so well thought out and implemented. i hated the bosses on first run but upon revisiting the game i realised it was just skill issue. a lot of them arent too difficult if you're patient and learn to react to their red attacks for additional damage.
enough about Hayabusa letting millions of Tokyo japs get had good boss window of opportunity, requiring good reflexes/timing whereas in other games you can spam uts after each kill people liked. It was called Transformers Devastation. All they had to do was slap squeenix brand felt very improved at times, but at others, felt like it had too much going on, to the point I can only guess Itagaki decided he'd throw shit at the stages and original for you clearlySandbag my ass the only thing that matters in whole.
>>736904087People that hate NG3RE love NG4.
>>736899505To this day I don't understand how that steel bone shit works, I beat the ryu clone boss in like 2 minutes cause I got to randomly steel bone him and it killed him, wtf
>>736903993>4 completely mogs them allinstantly discredited.
>>736899505The final boss sucksWill 3 get a remake like 1 and 2?
>>736904087in addition to the janky, floaty magnetic cancer in 4 platinum were too lazy to even do proper vertex trails or the or distortion effects for the sword swings.it's such a downgrade.
>>736903856Chads liked it first time playing.
Take a wild guess who's the Redditor.
>>736904168Razor's Edge is the remake. 4 needs a remake by TN to fix it
NG3RE fucks NG4 in the asshole.
>>736904358i dont think even a remake can fix that steaming pile of shit
>>736903528too much change for you, again
>>736899505Love it especially the ability to play as Kasumi but let's not kid ourselves some of it's sections are pure dogshit(T-rex).
Seriously just finished the Ninja Gaiden trilogy last week and honestly do feel like 3 is the hardest. The rocket spam, the mages, and some of the BS hitboxes on some bosses. Though to be fair I played Black, then sigma 2 and then 3RE. But 3RE for sure was the overall hardest imo.
>>736904435It is the hardest because TN wanted to appeal to the fans with the RE version. Base NG3 is the easiest NG in comparison.
>>736904487>TN wanted to appeal to the fans with the RE versionExplains why it filters the larpers.
>>736903161>ng4>tripple a
>>736903924>But enough about Hayabusa letting millions of Tokyo japs get raped to death by demons on NG4 and Yakumovich saving the day instead.Stop lying.
>>736903053NG4 plays like a Bayonetta version of NG. It's has the perfect dodges and parries of Bayo as well as the weapon movements and hold inputs from Bayo along with a rage mode and sometimes empty levels of Bayo.
>>736904168NG3 doesn't need a REMAKE it needs a REBOOT. NG3 and NG3:RE need to be declared non-canon. A complete new NG3 must be made, they can bring over mechanics from NG3:RE, but the story should be completely different and not character assassinate Ryu.>>736904358Nu-Team Ninja is dogshit and incompetent, they can't even make a proper Nioh game anymore.NG4 is amazing and better than anything Nu-Team Ninja can shit out, so glad Platinum Games got to make NG4 and not Nu-Team Ninja.
>>736904358NG4 cannot be fixed. NG3RE is the unlocked NG3. The core was fine because it's just reused TN NG2 engine. This is why they could just port Genshin from 2 for trials in 3RE and it just works. The core was fine - Everything else in NG3 was polluted and crippled but the same people that did that, purified it a few months later into NG3RE.NG4 is fundamentally a completely different beast. It cannot be retooled, especially not by TN because this isn't their game. NG4 isn't a mainline Ninja Gaiden game. It only carries 4 in the title and has a repurposed Ryu Hayabusa boss fight into a single weapon 4 stage cameo for marketing. It's actually just another Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z. An outsourced completely different game, made by a dying studio. But because Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z bombed and killed the studio they tried to trick the consumer base with deceptive marketing - so instead of calling it Yakumo Ninja Gaiden Z they called it NG4 and recycled assets to make Hayabusa "playable". In the end it didn't work and the game bombed anyway.Tragic isn't it? Capcom and Itsuno realized their mistake with outsourcing DMC to Ninja Theory and made DMC5 next time which sold 10 million units.Team Ninja didn't learn their lesson with outsourcing and decided to do it again - resulting in NG4 bombing with barely half a million sales and 11,217 CCU peak on Steam.People that like NG4 are your enemies.
>>736904376>low enemy count>passive enemiesNG3:RE is interactive movie boring easy garbage.
>>736904928>character assassinateNothing like that happened in NG3. Ryu was never a autistic murder machine.
>>736904487Well yeah I never played base ng3 but do hear it sucks shit. How is 4 compared to the trilogy?
>>736904930I've been here since NG 2004.NGB, NGII and NG4 are the only 3D NG games worth playing and are the best action games ever made.Kill yourself HayaSHIT a.k.a Haka(ku)shi(ne).
>>736904756Sacrificed them japs to eternal hellrape because he was incompetent. Then he teamed up with fascist cult retards DDO which Yakumovich still slaughters in the epilogue lmao He needed the YakumoBVLL to finish what he couldn't and save the world. Thank you Platinum, very cool. Your Gary Stu RAPES Hayabussy.
>>736904930gigabased. mt everest iq post.
>>736905028>How is 4 compared to the trilogy?One of the best action games ever made and depending on what you prefer, the best Ninja Gaiden game ever made.
>>736904930I will forever preach bigotry and hatred towards NG4fags because of spamming schizophrenic sodomites like >>736903745>>736905030
>>736904930based
>NGcucks and DMCtroons having a shitflinging contest over whose dead franchise sucks the leastHave fun with that guys meanwhile, I, an intellectual soulsGAWD play Fromsoftware games and souls-likes and will never run out of games to play meanwhile you get like maybe 1 new game each 10 years LMAO
>>736904928NG3 is pretty much the most accurate and respectful characterization for Ryu. NG4 is the definition of humiliation ritual.
3RE also became my favourite action game when I replayed it a couple of years ago, chapter select and ninja trials make it so much better to replay and get good at than the other two games. The changes to UT fix the biggest problem with the combat system.I also ended up getting a world first no damage clear of one of the master trials. The game is difficult and unpopular enough that there's still a lot of things that have never been achieved in it, and only a handful of autists still play it. For example I think UN trials of valor with no damage was only achieved this year.
>>736905028Low quality, bad;y animated and improperly made.
>>736904812lol
Bump and dab on NG4dogs' fucking graves.
>>736905451i 100% agree on your point about the changes to ut. the way the ut/essence mechanic works in ng1 and especially ng2 is utter dogshit. the optimal strategy is to just chain cutscene attacks over and over which takes no effort or skill. ng3 is the only entry which limits instant utol to a variable you have to work towards. >>736906876based. kusari-gama is sexy af in this game.
>>736906876sick 'gama, i still need to learn how to use this thing
>>736907643you use it like every other weapon in RE, spam XXYYY, XXXYYY, 360Y.If you're feeling extra cheesy, end strings with Y(hold release) because to compensate for the fact that the grabbing is more inconsistent to do it has a significantly high chance to dismember enemies.
>>736904087>.People that hate a bad game love a good game.
>>736906876never ask a ng3 player why 90% of the clips are from that chapter
>>736907893360y is pointless then neutral y string exists with kusari gama.
>>736908114>360y is pointlessIt has I frames and can serve as a decent enough crowd pusher. You can also cancel the recovery with a shuriken which looks kind of cool to use in tandem with other strings.
>>736908014I mean it is the best chapter in the entire series.>Get the fuckin BotA>Fight an army of ninjas in the misty forested mountains>Go to Hayabusa village and chill for a bit>Get Momiji on your team>Fight more ninjas>Fight the non-annoying fiend enemies>Big God of War inspired setpiece fight>Princess carry Momiji into dad's houseit's as good as it gets
>>736908282well yeah but that's my point, ng1-3 have a max of 3 chapters that are playable for clips and the game feeling really good, the rest are horrible littered with horrible enemiesng4 doesn't have this since it doesn't force dogshit enemies, you can clip every chapter
>>736902654I love katana zero to death but it's the worst game you can mention when criticizing interactive movies lmao
>>736908378Every chapter in NG4 is genuinely 100% exactly the same and every fight just takes place in a white square, of course you can treat them all the same way
>>736908243neutral y is also a crowd control tool except faster, is extendable, doesnt have nearly as much recovery frames and has much higher delimb rate. literally shreds through mobs.
>>736908473why are you acting like ng fanboys don't play the exact same chapters every single time? when was the last time you saw a webm of ryu fighting fiends under the subway? it's what ng fans want, to fight ninjasjust stop replying you're embarassing yourself
>>736903589>NGS is input delay and is less responsive than NGBWhat's the proof for this anyway? Reddit? I know about the lag in the shitty PC collection port (especially in S2) that requires dpi scaling in .exe but what's the proof for the original PS3 version? It sounds like some consolecuck Xmutt platform war cope desu. And I saw it posted here whenever someone brings up the fact that Smegma mogs Blacked because of better grafix, dual katanas, less shitty puzzles/empty backtracking, tits, new intro boss etc. It's either being parroted by Xmutts that don't have proof either OR it's just you and you have a copy/paste notepad. Seeing >>736902868 >>736903635 >>736904818 etc. you are absolutely some mentally ill balding bot.>NGS fucked with the enemy AI and is a shittier version of NGBProof?>Shitsuno got humiliated and DMC IP is dead.If DMC dies at least it went out with a bang that was DMC5 which sold millions upon millions, satisfied the fanbase and is the pinnacle of the genre.If NG dies it went out with a cum fart flop, creamed by Platinum and not even the original devs. A raped corpse.>God is on my sideIs your god's name "Moloch"?
>>736908014>>736908378You mistaking 3 for 2?Vast majority of NG2 webms are literally all in the same 2 stages.
>>736909008>If DMC dies at least it went out with a bangYes, It killed itself.
>>736909379Did you read my post where it says 1-3?
>>736903780>"Waiter! I'd like to throw in some meter moves before seeing the awesome red state so the enemies stop moving entirely
>>736909379for as much as ngfags call out gowfags and dmcfags for fighting sockpuppetsthey seem to only like fights against sockpuppets in ng games
>>736910727if you played NG you'd realize they aren't sockpuppets at all it only seems that way because they play really good
>>736899505You forgot too that any "flaws" most people try to attribute to it are also either complete lies or massively worse/actually exist in the other games. That's really how good it is, and it will be quite interesting reading the thread now to see how many people expose their skill issue and manipulation to hide from the facts.
>>736899505Dodging stuns enemies for a but, trivializing positioningBosses have way too much health and are not that funOtherwise it's pretty solid
>>736904961>low enemy countThis only works as criticism if you're elevating vanilla 2 and shitting on the rest of the franchise.3RE has more enemies on screen than 1B/S and 2S/B. 4's enemies are punching bags meant for comboing. It doesn't matter if there's 3 of them or 7.>easy garbageHardest trials in the franchise.
>>736900587and that didn't even take long at all. SoB is impossible to spam by its very nature as it requires setup and countering the action of an enemy. This is also why again, by its very nature it cannot be the most optimal thing to do, due to it being so reliant on the rest of your moveset. Killing a healthy enemy with SoB is also inefficient in terms of combo count/Karma and Ki charge.>>736900590>second best level design, best if you actually care about the action instead of running back and forth through the same areas>one rail shooting section in a series that constantly has target practice and bow fights, which also is in the game where the bow feels good to use and isn't there in Chapter Challenge>the inputs are a tutorial and each one corresponds to standard actions while connecting to actual gameplay, and again Chapter Challenge removes the single fanservice walking section>best bosses in the series and actually good bosses at that, on top of having almost all the decent bosses from past games
Flick the analogue stick forward + jump in NGB.Flick the analogue stick forward + jump in NG2.Flick the analogue stick forward + jump in NG3RE.Flick the analogue stick forward + jump in NG4.Now tell me which one is a real Ninja Gaiden game.NG4 is a disaster. No respect or research went into building it, it's just a cheap reskin of whatever P* happened to be working on when eks bawks and KT showed up at their door.
>>736911670Post your M/UN clears.
>>736913341its amazing how open ended and flexible the combat system is. countless different moves and techs that each serve a different strategic function instead of just being a billion different ways to juggle immobile retards like in modern action games such as dmc5 and ng4.
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>>736910915ng3re hate is a psy op created by itagaki fanboys who cant handle that someone objectively improved on their favourite devs work and also dont want to accept that they are trash without healing potions and easily accessible uts.
>>7369143303 has the easiest ut spam because ryu has superarmor and is teleporting across the arena from enemy to enemy. There's zero spacing or movement needed. And everytime you use UT's you refill your infinite ninpo which automatically heals you and clears the area of enemies. I dont know why NG3 fans have no clue how to play the game.
>>736910896>easiest enemies in the game that pretty much do nothing>not sockpuppetsokay, fanboi
>>736914630Lunar staff ut spam Is OP and does not represent the rest of the game
>this threadThis larp is getting crazy y'all should just OT yourself except the SoB anon. Is this how every NG/Action hread goes now? Thanks god Russia is turning into North Korea 2.0 so I can barely access this shithole nowadays and just focus on games instead.>>736910915Unrelated but what are your general thoughts on NG 4?
>>736914630you can definitely UT spam and tank hits from enemies who get close while charging. but it's a very slow and inefficient way to play, and it won't work against some enemy types like van gelfs or chimeras who will just beat your ass.
>>736914972>your general thoughts on NG 4?I hate Yakumo. I hate the constant team support chatter. I hate the over the top anime weapons instead of Ryu's arsenal that was authentic ninja weapons.
>>736914972Oh it's the schizo NTR Rachel xoxol. No more avatarfagging?
>>736914630for starters, in 3 you have to charge it for a few seconds, leaving you wide open to enemy attacks, with bloody rage mode uts being the only exception. important to consider in a game where you're being swarmed by like at least half a dozen enemies and shot at with multiple rockets at any given moment. in other games you instantly fire it off if theres an essence nearby.also in other games the ranking system actively promotes it, which is retarded considering its the most broken technique with inv frames all throughout and can be chained together. in re, it yields less points and meter than an ot or sob kill. also it resets the bloody rage multiplier meaning you lose out on a lot of potential combo points if you just spam it back to back instead of building the multiplier up before using it.
>736915169Nobody asked you subhuman nigger. >736915192Girl you are literary retarded. Don't @ me.
>>736915360>in 3 you have to charge it for a few seconds, leaving you wide open to enemy attackswhich means nothing because Ryu has superarmor>in other games you instantly fire it off if theres an essence nearby.Which means you at least have to first kill an enemy the old fashion way, and potentially trading away health pickups. UT spam in 3 literally fuels your ninpo which heals you when you use it.
>>736915041You can totally cheese chimeras with run away>manual UT spam. Van gelfs are like the only enemy you can't bully with it.>>7369153603 UTs charge almost instantly, enemy AI outright breaks when you charge and the ranking system is as much of a joke as it is in 2.
>>736903283>It's still an actual Ninja Gaiden game. Much closer to its TN identity and pace than NG4 ever will be.Kill yourself. I'm not joking.
>>736915547you dont flinch but you still lose health whilst charging. in ng2 you kill enemies during uts and use that essence to seamlessly chain into the next ut, rinse and repeat ad infinitum until everyone is dead.
>>736915818Where's your Rachel crop, cucky?
>>736915880Speak like a normal human being. Not that it matters because you should kill yourself.
>>736915787it takes at least like 2-3 seconds for the first level of ut to charge in ng3, you can easily get hit during that time.
>>736915827I just showed you webms of seamlessly chaining ut's in ng3 ad infinitum until everyone is dead
>>736915941What's the matter cuck? Lost your avatarfagging folder?
>>736915041tanking hits is pointless and daft when you can just not get hit to begin with. especially considering that you are ranked by how much health you preserved after each encounter.
>>736915970you charged the uts one by one, you didnt instant ut after ut through essence like you do in ng2. thats not chaining.
>>736916095If you can clear areas charging ut's one by one that tells you how broken it is
>>736916381post a video of you using this one strategy to clear a chapter with an s rank then if you want me to take this argument seriously. you can post your cherrypicked little 10 second clip of doing two level 1 uts uninterrupted to try to prove a point but it doesn't mean anything.
>>736916809you post webms
>>736917030burden of proof id on you. weak tactics crumble when tested for consistency.
>>736917109my webms are all the proof you need and you have nothing
This game is sincerely a masterpiece of action vidya.
>>736899912Yeah combat in RE is based much more on deciding which combo should work best against a certain enemy. Part of that is making like UTs and Guillotine Throw and shit not an easy option to spam the fuck out of, and part of it is stronger combo chains, like all the hold Y moves that just fuck shit up, among other things.
>>736917208like i said, weak tactics crumble when tested for consistency. if you cant prove that you can rely on this one tactic to clear a chapter with s rank then its worthless and invalid. bring next exhibit to the stand or stfu.
>>736917437Well, until you post NGB webms of just standing still and holding one button to clear entire rooms on Master Ninja I win. You have nothing.
>>736901174>moreof the sameWhat same? NG3 was already massively different from NG2. NG4 is closer to NG2 than NG3 is.
>NG schizo and Sonic schizo are going at itAnd none of these fags will post proof of having played these games. Just a slew of dumbass opinions from loud fags who don't play games, yet they want to be seen as authorities on the genre.
>>736918069You're fucking retarded.
>>736899912You talk like a fag and your shit is all retarded.
>>736918312Boot up NG1, 2, 3RE and 4 and do XXY -> SC -> XXY using the DS. In one of these games, XXY -> SC -> XXY isn't a true combo.
>>736915953You should actually try it before telling it off.Lunar UT>OT is a consistent strat against all humanoids (sans alchemists) and small fiends. It's especially comical vs celsus fiends where the broken AI is most obvious.Another good example is guard break>UT vs alchemists cuz their behavior is so wack
Even though the story in this game is not good, I still greatly prefer a swing and a miss with cutscenes, characters, dialogue etc. as opposed to not even trying at all the way NG2 or NG4 did it.
I actually didn't mind the story in NG3. I agree mostly with >>736919139The gameplay is also pretty good but I think my biggest problem with the game is that this game fucking HATES you. Enemies that keep guarding, enemies with super armor, enemies that spam projectiles, keeps fucking dodging, holy fucking shit it has some good gameplay if only it allows you to fucking play it
>>736919139I don't. But at least I can skip all the cutscenes.
>>736920639They do a shitty job of explaining it, but you're supposed to deal with enemies blocking using the heavy attack button. There's more subtlety to it, but the short answer is learn combos that have a lot of heavy attacks to deal with blocking.
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>>736920828it's the dodging that's fucking annoying sorry. Having to bait for SoB is so boring and ass. Also some of these bosses with no healing items is so fucking asssss fuck those two tank shits.
>>736921058The heavy attacks seem to stop them from dodging, too. It's a bit harder to see because it just looks like they decided not to dodge.The double tank fight sucks, you're right. I just think that's like plenty of other parts in Ninja Gaiden where you use an item specifically to get through it quicker. In this case, a ninpo spell that tears through their health.
One thing I don't like its the amount of moves there are for each weapon.I just cant process that shit with my monkey brain
>>736921058>>736921689double tank can be skipped with true inferno. pop it once the fight starts and all their leg armor will get blown off.
>>736922368They pad the moveset out with 3 entries for the same move because one of them started from sliding or whatever. Rather than learning every single entry individually, it's best to learn like 2 good combos and go by intuition from there.
Do you like playable girls? RE Kasumi > RE Ayane > S2 Momiji > S1 Rachel > RE Momiji > S2 Rachel > S2 Ayane
>>736924409I agree mostly but take out S1 Rachel and S2 Rachel and put her in the trash.
>>736924816Idk, i find her somewhat fun to play. Granted, her levels are pretty shit and her boss is probably the third worst boss in S1 saved only because the chopper and the tanks really are awful. But otherwise her moveset is entertaining, and she is fun in both Ninja Trials and Survival. Now take all that and make it worse and you get S2 Rachel.
>>736925628I hate her weapon, her moveset, her ugly face and how slow she is.
>Ryu nofags Rachael and Mizuki>somehow DOESNT nofag Sonia except sorta except not really, it's fucking weird.I have no idea why he picked Sonia out of the 3 girls, I agree she's the best but it's funny this guy doesn't say to Mizuki I have a GF and to Rachael he just straight up "yeah my work here is done SEE YA BITCH"
>>7369244093 kasumi is basically dragon sword ryu except with a busted grab and cicada surge so she's the only one I like
>>736924409Razor's Edge makes the girls super strong in unique ways, I am surprised they never did more with the very detailed movesets they made for them. Ayane is basically a blindingly fast rolling death ball as always, Momiji is the best boss killer in the game (even better than Ryu), and Kasumi breaks the rules with SoB on demand.
>>736926084The shadow of the NES trilogy looms over them, their fault for even including her
>>736909379Because Ninjas are the only actual fun enemies to fight in 2 lol. The fiends in 2 mostly suck ass compared to Black. Bonus points if the webm is on NG plus
>>736899505In terms of difficulty on MN/UN>NG2 no UT spam > NG3RE > NG2 UT spam > NGB
>>736925628I don't really like playing as Rachel but I appreciate that Team Ninja made a big ol robust woman who throws her weight around. She is very fun in Dead or Alive too for that reason, a real heavyweight.
>>736901042Alma/Nicchae and Fiend Murray are the only bosses in NG1 that are like the fights in 2. Everyone else is actually consistent like Doku
>>736926084They had a fling but nothing too serious. And im sure Sonia is okay with Ryu banging other girls. They probably have threesomes.
>>736927195>self insert chigyu doujin power fantasy fic
>>736926549>made a big ol busty woman who throws her ass aroundFtfy
>>736926084>NO DRAGON DICK FOR ME??! WELL NO DRAGON DICK FOR YOU EITHER YOU FUCKING NINJA NIGGER
>>736918269It's honestly an amusing fightThe greatest schizos of cag threads, duking out.
>>736927861I've been playing DOA5LR for roughly 2 months and i have yet to try playing as a male other than ryu. are any of them fun?
>>736929132Ryu is ass in DOA. Always was. He just looks cool. Ein, Jann Lee and Bayman are much more fun.
>>736929249Not sure why you would say that, it's a running joke in the DOA community that Hayabusa is always S tier in every game and everyone simply accepts it because he is Ryu Hayabusa. I don't think he is seen as below a top tier character in any game.But yes Ein, Jann Lee and Bayman are very cool
Kasumi has to be the hottest main girl fighting game character but it really sucks she has 0 personality except "HAYATEEEEEE" or "THIS IS MUGEN TENSHIN"
>>736929603He's ass to play. People argue that he's technical but strong. But for me he's a free win against.Cool character that has potential but in reality attracts mostly shitters. Like Genji and Yasuo, pardon the ASSFAGGOTS comparison.
>>736929753She is allowed to be a protagonist who drives the story forward and is formidable, which is more than like 95% of fighting game girls. To this day I don't think Tekken or Street Fighter have ever had a girl win an important plot battle.As for her personality, I think it's a decent enough "gentle soul who doesn't like fighting but happens to be better than everyone else at it". Kasumi willingly giving up her position as clan heir and being condemned to being chased by assassins forever, all to kill the man who hurt her brother and raped her mother is pretty badass.
>>736929753Her being a runaway shinobi in DOA2 was kinda neat. Innocent and nice little girl decided to fuck off out of the whole ninja murder shittery.Then NG3RE comes out and she's mercilessly styling on terrified merc wagies with cuhrayzee gore combos lmao
>removing cheap crutches such as utol/ninpo spamming and healing items you're forgetting the systems to replace those are dumb and shallow as fuck. SoBs are worse than UTs. And you still get a free UT with instant charge btw so no, they didn't remove the crutches they were just replaced by other ones3RE is the easiest and most dumb game in the series and doesn't feel like ninja gaiden>>736899580>bow manages to be funwhat, because it aims entirely by itself and fires in a split second? it doesn't even feel like you're using a bow at that point, just an item to quickly remove ranged enemy who never matter now since you destroy them in 0.1s
>>736929753>>736930121yeah this. she might be a bit too kind considering what she's supposed to be doing.. but that's interesting too.
>>736931447I say this but I still find 3RE to be a great guilty pleasure kind of game and at the time with no x360 I found it more fun than Sigma 2, but in the end 2 is still the best.
>>736931447SoB is nowhere near as strong as essence absorb UT and if you really think it is you are just bad at both NG2 and 3
>>736931947>free 5 kills for every super easy to hit counterswho's the worst player here? this trivializes the entire combat because it's that strong, you could even manipulate the enemies into spamming their red move often to get even more free kills.UTs in the other games aren't that efficient for the most part and you had to start with 2 kills for lv2 UT and set it up, which wasn't always guaranteed even with on-landing, because of how aggressive the enemies are. None of that matter in 3RE, SoB are instant with no requirement, can happen as soon a fight begin, and this boost your UT so it triggers sooner for even more free kills.
>>736932504With paperthin enemy health and delimbs, getting two essence drops in NG2 is pretty easy. Even ETs are so overtuned that they'll let you UT after.That said 3RE still takes the cake in broken mechanics because despite all their nerfs, UTs are still cracked. That is just impressive incompetence
>>736931447>easy huh id say ng2b was significantly easier
>>736899505No it was criticised for a myriad of reasons and the story was only part of it (and not an invalid criticism). The first rendition of NG3 was massively downgraded compared to prior games, very easy in comparison and streamlined, on top of having a story thats sappy, not befitting on NG, and that effectively revises Ryu as this "evil murder guy" that needs humanized. It takes itself overly seriously and stands in stark contrast with the former games because of it. It's also cringe. It also had slow motion moments when you got to walk around and slowly kill cowering soliders to prove to you how "evil" Ryu is (which was changed into more normal style fights in corridors in Razors Edge). RE is just an improved upon version of NG3 which made it a fine game. The atmosphere and levels are also just not as interesting as the former games.
>>736931742>guilty pleasure kind of gameWhy? This isn't some Onechanbara bakage jank. NG3RE is a great game in its own right. It's an objectively solid action game and one of the best in this subgenre which is saying something. It only falls short when you compare it to NG1/2 which is to be expected since those are the pinnacle of this genre.
>>736931447>3RE is the easiest and most dumb game in the series and doesn't feel like ninja gaidenPost your trials or die of cancer. You have 10 minutes.
>>736932504>SoB are instant with no requirementi love when i just lie and make shit up to back up my argument
>>736934638yeah let me just repair my dead ps3 and get the video out of it, retard.You have no real arguments.
>>736934806>you wouldn't know her, she's in another schoolSee you in hell, nigger.
>>736934731Unless I forgot how it work, I'm pretty sure sob chains started with strong attack on red mist. Nothing else was necessary.
>>736934865in the meantime, you still have no arguments. I'm not afraid of hell because I didn't lie, 3RE has the easiest MNM, cope.
Ninja Garden is reddit poser garbage.DMC1 is God tier. Because I'm making it so.
>>736931447Because your goal is to get to a position where you can easily hit the ranged enemy instead of having the goal of making the worst third person shooter controls known to man work properly and sometimes running to the conveniently placed dead body full of arrows to grab some more. If you've played the game, you'd know there are ranged enemies with a weak point that must be manually aimed at or sometimes rockets that can be shot midair to capitalize on the explosion. It doesn't need to be perfect to be better than the horrible military base bow section in 1 or the whack a mole enemies in windows from 2.
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>>736934920In order to get "5 free kills" with SoB, you need the following:>be surrounded by 5 enemies that can be SoB'd (so no van gelfs, high HP alchemists, dogs, etc.)>One of them within range does a red attack>You react and dodge/heavy attack into itMeanwhile to get an essence UT you need to:>Have killed an enemy>Do a UTand this will automatically throw you into all enemies no matter how far they are or what they are doing.
>>736935954It's also 4 kills. Not 5.
>NGschizo and DMC2 Sonicschizo fighting
>>736930198I like how she was handled in Musou StarsBecause she was representing DOA as a protagonist there all of her moves were unarmed, so nonlethal and fitting.
>>736899505>Dogturd gets a /v/ defenderSunrise, sunset. Games still shit, even in the "polished" dogturd release.
>>736932504>UTs in the other games aren't that efficient for the most part and you had to start with 2 kills for lv2 UT
I prefer Yakumo to Hayabusa.
>>736935954>Have killed an enemy>Do a UTnow let's nitpick about it like you did for sobs>have killed an enemy>killed another one (because only lv2 UTs have a good chance to kill 4)>have some time to jump and do an onland UT>do the on landing correctly>have enough time to suck the essence and actually start the UT There's a big difference. meanwhile you can often SoB completely randomly, that how instant they are. Yeah it doesn't work on certain ennemy type in a game where 80% of the enemies are sob-able, big woop.
>>736899505juggleslop gets its ds2 moment
>>736934565NG3RE has the same issues as DMC4 even more so then NG4 which gets compared to DMC4 more often. The core gameplay is amazing when all the dogshit design around that core gameplay isn't there to annoy you. NG2 is like this as well but to a lesser extent. NGB is the only game in the series that feels like a complete polished experience
>>736936784>juggleslopHe didn't post NG4
>>736936628Yakumo-chan DOES have a tighter boipussy...
Since DMC5 is getting ported to the Switch 2, I hope they bring over NG4 an DMC4SE.
>>736936267That's going to bebevery action thread in 2026. Brace yourself, my friend.
>>736936847>NGB is the only game in the series that feels like a complete polished experiencemaybe if you ignore the bosses and the levels
>>736937058For action games they're not even the worst. Frankly almost all action games have garbage bosses.And the level design is fantastic. Good usage of movement mechanics, highly interconnected and fast to navigate. I miss the days of hub world design.
>>736937605>For action games they're not even the worstNTA but NG in general takes the shit cake in this department, especially 1 with its fucking tanks and helicopters. I can count good bosses on one hand across the whole franchise.
>>736936996>Switch gets the definitive version of DMC3 and DMC5>But no DMC4 port
>>736936847I already like NG3RE but I think it would instantly become like 20% better if you just remove the fucking chimera snake and gorilla enemies. Don't even mind the alchemists.
DAMN
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>>736938361>>736938440Imagine him shavingall that blood and pus running out
I know NG2B and NG4 didn't sell well but I would do unholy things for NG3 to get a do-over kind of like NG2 Sigma did. It's really the game that would benefit the most from just reworking some encounters and a few balance tweaks.>Nerf scythe into the ground>Rework some boss fights like the dino, big rolling mech, and final boss so they are more engaging>Make snake and gorilla mutant enemies not be utter dogshit to fight>Change the lighting and bloom so it doesn't look like a 2010 military shooter>Add co-op back in to the trials>Photo mode>Put an instant restart button into the trials/chapter select because holy shit it takes years to retry something
>>736937952Really not. The poster child series DMC is littered with garbage bosses, with only 3 good standouts and only Credo and A&R were both good and mechanically interestingI think the reason people single out NG is that fails at providing interesting presentation. For example MGR's bosses are mediocre shit but unforgettable because Platinum are kings at presentation
>>736939065I think MGR was really carried by the writer from Konami, I think it was Etsu Tamari. The dialogue and ideological back and forth between Raiden, his allies, and his enemies is really great. Also obviously the music is brilliant.
>>736938715but it did o_OA NG3B would be sweet though.
>>736938361what the fuck was he eating to get like this lol.
>>736938715Maybe they'll remake 3RE like they did for sigma 2.
>>736939301>another secret Kojimbo ghost writerHonestly think Rising had better writing than Death Stranding.
>>736938361https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWr7k1U5iis
>NG4 is ba-https://youtu.be/cEBbOhaGkZk?si=Z0JNeB6L6Zx_phYE
>>736917905the burden of proof is on him not me sinc ehe made the claim
>>736931447sob isnt as readily available and windows of opportunity to trigger it are more unexpected than essence ut as it relies on rng of enemy ai to do a red attack instead of being guaranteed upon an enemy death. it takes some reflexes and positioning at least whereas utol spamming takes absolutely zero skill at all.>free ut with instant chargefrom this, i can already tell you dont understand how res mechanics work or you're pretending to be retarded. ut only gets an instant charge on a red bloody rage streak which is only available like once a minute. you have to build up the streak through multiple consistent combo kills and once the instant ut is ready, using it resets the multiplier, meaning it is more optimal to keep the multiplier going to maintain high combo points up until the last wave where you use the instant ut. also you didnt mention the fact that healing is now based on ninpo which you work towards through executions and long combos instead of just hoarding potions like in previous game.
>>736934565its his guilty pleasure game because hes guilty of being ass at ninja gaiden
>>736938715>make snake and gorilla mutant enemies not be utter dogshit to fightliterally just learn how to cicada surge. there are much worse enemies in re than those two.
>>736943582I deal with the snake and gorilla specifically by doing weaker attacks they're likely to counter with a move I can Steel on Bone attack. They're more annoying if you don't do that.
>>736936760you're extremely unlikely to get hit deoing a dodge jump. utol timing window takes zero precision. ut has inv frames all throughout. level 1 ut, jump roll dodge into an instant level 1 ut, rinse and repeat until every enemy is dead. unfortunately for ng2, every ut is like a mini cutscene so it gets boring as shit watching it play out every time whilst still being optimal, at least the sob animation takes a second.
>want to ng2>but don't have a 360>pc sigma slopit's a haiku
>>736943582cicada surge is almost never worth the resource usage. in my MN and UN playthroughs i think i used it like twice in total
>>736944338depends on the enemy and situation. against big fiend/beast type enemies like the gorilla, snake and van gelfs its worth it sometimes to trade a tiny sliver of meter to avoid getting hit. if anyone is about to red attack you and you're locked into a combo string its 100% worth it to avoid getting hit.
Unironically a trainwreck, possibly the worst final boss of all time
>>736944191It runs on Xenia alright. I beat it that way and it was fine.
>>736944191get 2 black, best version of the game
>>736944191runs on Xenia edge.But modded 2Black is the best version of NG2 anyway.
>>736931447>what, because it aims entirely by itself and fires in a split second?ironically you're describing 2. in razors edge you have manual aiming to hit weak spots on certain enemies and you can slo mo out of a windpath or bow cancel out of a launcher. all your posts reek of "didnt play the games, copying opinions i saw on 4chan"
>>736943246The red attack lasts so long it's extremely easy to hit them, and you can keep delimbed dudes on the ground to start sobs anytimes you want.>high combo points up lmao who cares, point is 3RE's UTs are even more dumbed down than before, gay as fuck. I know setting up UTs in 2 is relatively easy but still far more steps than an instant charge when the gauge is up, it's just free kills for no effort and that's not fun. And I still maintain that NG2's ai is so agressive that landing a lv2 on land UT isn't guaranteed unless you do the work to have good position, and aspect that's gone from 3RE entirely, heck even NG4 isn't that free.>didnt mention the fact that healing is now based on ninpo Yeah because that's actually a decent idea. items just don't work in most action games. Still, it could have been made a bit better because it's too one dimensional a system, you will use your ninpo anyway, after all. I'm not a fan of RNG blue orbs but they were part of the risk/reward system of the whole UT mechanics were abusing them without thinking could mean the player wasting healing entirely.See, 3RE is too streamlined to the point where the gameplay just has less depth overall.
>>736945073>>736945395>XeniaI will do this, thanks>But modded 2Black is the best version of NG2 anyway.'splain this
>>736945741I cleared 3RE MNM and didn't touch the turd in years until I briefly played it again last year due to NG4 hype, yeah, fucking excuse me if I don't get literally every details right. >you can slo mo out of a windpath or bow cancel out of a launcherthat's what I'm saying, you pop up your bow so extremely quickly that ranged enemies no longer are a threat for the most part. in 2 you have to aim??
>>736946159You think that anon is thinking 2 Sigma or Black? I don't think it does that in the OG.
>>736945974https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaiden2black/mods/30this turns 2Black into NG2 basically. There are a lot of differences and a tiny bit of jank, but it's a lot closer to being a proper NG2 Black than what TN have released with this remake. It's really an amazing mod.It also exists for the pc port of Sigma 2, that's an option too if you can't run 2Black.
3 RE is still the best in the series. People still hating on the game especially after the release of 4 are incapable of having their own opinions and are only cattle much like how all the resident evil tourists instantly get defensive over the crowbcat video on re4.
>>736899505>t zoomer who wasn't around when Ninja Gaiden 3 was actually panned and killed the series
>>7369463623 was bad and deserved the hate, 3 RE however fixed a lot of the complaints and went on to be the best in the series. i wish the modern ports would have kept all of the online. the original 3RE release had a create a ninja mode with pvp online. sure it was broken but it was a mode that a lot of effort went into and it's essentially lost forever now.
>>736946314Nice, I'll give this a go. I assume THE staircase is as intended?
I shouldn't even have to explain why these are the same Genre
>>736946703it won't slow down to 10fps lol
>>7369464793RE still sucks though. Just because it's better doesn't mean it's good. It still inherits a lot of the baggage from the original 3.Can't speak for the online modes though, I only got to play it on the re-release.
it finally happenedng4 was so bad that people now like ng3realso reminder if you've played ngs2 or ng2b, you haven't played ng2.
>>736945920>when the gauge is up, it's just free kills for no effortIt's not rocket science to see they're not "free" and "no effort" when getting Bloody Rage to trigger instant charge is not free and takes effort. They even made karma so important even you'll see the point, since buying upgrades costs karma. Regardless, even if you don't want a single upgrade, you can't instant UT whenever you want because you probably won't be in Bloody Rage.
>>736947280I bought the Master Ninja collection a while back for 3RE. I've only touched it and Sigma 1.I should play Sigma 2 one of these days just for the experience. 2's still fresh in my mind so the contrast will be... interesting.
Not even reading this thread. Dumbass zoomer takes.OG2>NGS2B>3RE>NG4>NGB>rest
>>736947725>NGS2B>3RE>NG4>NGBtroll
