Holy fuck I was so wrong. I didn't even know you couldn't shoot through the doors in the remake, I literally beat this game twice and i never noticed. Holy shit Capcom unironically sucks. They don't understand what makes a game good, fuck man I'm a retarded zoomer. Now I'm starting to doubt if re7 was really that good.
I dare you to name the gameplay differences between RE2make, 3make, VII, VIII, 4make or Requiem
>>736911378>I changed my entire opinion because of one mechanic I didnt even notice once and a retarded overly long video essayGrow some balls and stand by your opinion. Like it if you like it. The remake was the better game. Re4 wanted to be an action game with fucking tank controls.
>Now I'm starting to doubt if re7 was really that goodYou're giving away your false-flag.
>>736911509Are you being serious right now? It should be obvious OP is being sarcastic, and you drop this entirely unironically non self-aware post.Be better.
>>736911378>duuude griftscam made a video so now we have to pretend old = good and new = bad for the rest of the weekFuck off, just fuck off
>>736911509OP was being satirical you glue-eating autist
>>736911509The further you venture through this creepy game the more powerful enemies seem to become and many will require you to use tactical options when fighting them. For example, letting an enemy get in close range to kick or slice them with your knife. Another is to throw a flash grenade to stun a group of quickly approaching enemies, and blow them all to hell by throwing a real grenade in the crowd. One more would be to shoot one in the knee and then pop a bullet in its head while it staggers toward you.In addition to the strategic combat, this game is filled with tiny details that add to your overall immersion and experiences. For example, you can dismantle an enemy who has lit dynamite in his hands by crippling them long enough for it to explode or you could shoot thrown items in midair (like axes, and knifes). If you choose to kill fish and chickens you’re rewarded with health and money. It’s the little details like being able to quietly open a door or kicking it open that really adds to the games overall experience.On top of everything else, Resident Evil 4 sports some of the most incredible boss battles I have ever experienced. They are way better than the previous games. One of the bosses will have you running up its back while another will have you holding on for dear life in tiny paddle boat. Each boss battle or mini boss battle is unique, fun, and original.Amazingly enough there’s rarely any doubt where you’re supposed to go or what you should do next. It’s remarkable when you consider how large some of these areas can be, but the game never requires a strategy guide. However, if you do get lost you can always check your handy map which will guide you in the right direction. Fans of the series wouldn’t be satisfied without the occasional, simple to solve puzzle which seem kind of forced. It’s alright because taking a break from all the action every once in a while is nice.
>>736911671No. He's literally asking himself to be shot in the head.
>>736911706Did you really need chatgpt to glaze the old game?
>>736911378Mental illness
>>736911378whats boomers/millenials obsession with throwing the blame to zoomers, sure theres a few retarded women on twitter that pretend to care about games they never played, but the whole video is all boomers and millenials, the demographics that buy and play these games the most is 30+, you think gaming is like this because of zoomers of all people? they were like 9 years old when gamergate happened
>>736911813The remake sucks.
>A product of its timewhat the fuck does it even mean? RE4 was also a product of its time 21 years ago
>>736911887The remake is 9/10 at worst.
>>736912106>at worstlol, lmao even
>>736911509>action game with fucking tank controlSoul.....kino.....unique and creative design....camp....style....substance....We used to have a board.
>>736911756>muh AI>muh "glaze">muh "old game"Demake shitters who endlessly defend an imitation while degrading the unique masterwork are truly the most embarrassing nonhuman entities on this board
>>736911378You know, that ui part really hits home. Now its all soulless minimalist shit, same with menu screens.Making flavorful ui is a lost art now i guess
Resident Evil 4 will forever be a classic because it's a master of design, while the remake is a slave to it.RE4 is a game that was scrapped and rebuilt several times because the devs wanted it to be the best it could possibly be. It wasn't groundbreaking by accident, it was groundbreaking because of constant refinement. RE4 didn't even start out as an action game, it slowly just morphed into that because that is what the devs decided "felt right". This is how games should be designed, not beholden to trends or tradition, the devs just engineered the best game possible through trial and error. The RE4 we got was the survival of the fittest. The peak of design.Compare this to the remake, which obviously has to dance to the flute of the original game, but also to the design trends of modern AAA gaming, as well as trying to be a sequel to REmake2. It's a game absolutely shackled by what came before, which is exactly what RE4 is not. RE4 was a trailblazer, while REmake4 is stuck in those trails
>OLD GAME LE HECKING GOOOD>NEW GAME LE HECKING BAD
>>736912646WE BUILT THIS CITYWE BUILT THIS CITY OOON TAAANK COOON-TROOOOOOOOLLSSS
>>736911378Why the fuck are you faggots spamming this so muchYES RE4make is fucking atrocious and will date rapidly, YES the original is timeless, so stop making my sincerely held opinion look like smarmy, retarded engagement bait
>>736911509>Re4 wanted to be an action game with fucking tank controls.And it succeeded.
>>736912049It means that A the game was revolutionary for that time unlike the remake which is just a game that already existed with a modern repackaging to appeal to the modern gamerB 10 years from now people will still talk and play the original while the remake will be forgotten (as is usually the case)
>>736911629>pretend>>736913181That is the case, yes. I would love it if new games were good, but most of them are dogshit.
>>736911378All the resident evil remakes are fucking garbage. The originals are so much better.
>>736911378But you can shoot through doors in the village, there are sturdier doors in the castle that you can't. This was also true in the OG.What they did remove was the ability to slam doors.
Cawadoody sucking children are legitimately cancer
>>736911378Nostalgiafagging and its consequences have been a disaster for the zoomer generation.
This guy obviously shills his channel here
>>736911378But... but...but guys.... how do we know if a zombie is really there on the other side of the door ? We have to waste a bullet in a resident evil game to check ? Just open the fucking door.
>>736913626Typical millennial projection
>>736913654Are you transtarded? Don't answer that, rhetorical question.
>>736913692You're the person defending the imitation millennial game. You're the one with the fake, regurgitated, corporate mandated cash grab culture.You have no soul.
>>736913626zoomcucks don't really nostalgiafag, they just larp as whatever's trending on tik tok/twitter.
if game is fun then it's still fun and not bad, just not what it could have been if they went a different route, wow, great analysis
Why are mods letting these eceleb threads stay up?
>>736913094Unrequited and unequivocal TRVTHNVKE/thread
>>736911378Name a single time you shot through doors in RE4, you're in open environments 95% of the time
>>736913883>You're the personlol retard is arguing with his boogeymans, literally just wrote 3 words>corporate mandated cash grab culture.The irony as his culture is games which are all corporate products
>>736914064>durrrr they're all products that means art doesn't matter>durrrrr I keep defending the artistic defacement of genius works by celebrating imitations while denigrating the sourceNot very intelligent
>>736911378>doubles down and makes remaketroons seethe uncontrollably I'm starting to like this guy
>>736913094>Resident Evil 4 will forever be a classic because it's a master of design>doesn't play it on gamecube, plays with mouse keyboard, uses mods and texture packslol
>>736911378How many autism rants do you fucks watch on YouTube? Like your feed must be absolutely garbage
>>736914049>6th gen game is able to implement a niche mechanic that a 9th gen remake cantWe're regressing
>>736914134>my toys are art guiz, this is my culture!!!!!lol consumerism is your culture
>>736913546REmake 1 is the only good one and that's because it was done by the original RE team
>OLD GAME GUD>NU GAME BAD
>>736914220Retard
/v/ should be changed to /Michael's Puppets/.
>>736911378IT'S OVER, how does it feel fake Resident Evil fans to be a part of the losers club? It must be so incredibly sad.
>>736913645no at least one autist has been obsessed with this re4 vs remake debates for weeks now
>>736914240>REmake 1 is the only good oneWrong >that's because it was done by the original RE teamAlso wrong
>>736911378Good you realized you are a retard. You can still stop eating glue.
>makes video 3 years after the game has already been out What's the fucking point.
Haha, woooow.Yet another thread.Haha. Woooow.
>>736914220>denigrate the source>attack the messenger>ad hominem>ad populumKeep going little zoombieNow watch this hitstun
>>736914437Trying way too hard man
>>736914448>What's the fucking point.To prove that the fans of RE4 are still fans of RE4, while the fans of REmake4 has already moved on to the next shiny thing. It's literally in the title
>>736914528Muh fallacy fallacy
>>736914554The point is we already had these autistic arguments back when the game came out, everything in the video was argued about endlessly years ago. Now we get to have shit RE threads for the next month because of this shit.
>>736914607Retard
It's funny how 1-3 remakes aren't as divisive as this. It's almost like most zoomers are retards and will praise any slop with a AAA budget because new = better.Same reason movie remakes like that awful Lion King did well and people would praise it on social media.
>>736914159Who said I was playing it with a bunch of mods on a platform it wasn't made for? I agree the gamecube version should be what anyone looking to experience RE4 should play. The wii version is also acceptable since the wii is basically a gamecube.
>>736911378More games should allow players to do that. L4D2 is a better zombie game because of that.
>>736914529>posting facts is trying too hard???Its fact it wasn't made by og team and only had a few members from the og team, go look at the credits
>>736914607But he's the chad..zoombie..are you okayYou just keep stepping on that same exact rake. Keep denigrating the original masterpiece while real RE chads appreciate artistic integrity in masterworks
>>736911378I'm a boomer who played RE1 in 1996. RE7 is my second favorite RE after 4
>>736913482RE4 was made after Max Payne so there was no revolution outside of normalizing QTEs.
>>736911378only big issue with RE4R is how fucking bad the movement feels. It's inexcusable for an action gameRE2R, a survival horror game, has snappier movement than an action horror game in the same franchise. it's fucking absurd
>>736914712>Keep denigrating the original masterpiece while real RE chads appreciate artistic integrity in masterworks>posts mod that changes the game thus not appreciating artistic integrity of the original lol
>>736914835NTA but how does that mod not appreciate the artistic integrity? it's literally using the same IRL assets
>>736914220If you're too retarded to judge a game on its artistic merits why are you even trying to take part in a discussion that's beyond you?
>>736914729RE7 is pretty fucking great because of the tension and bespoke horror environment that's deeply inspired by the same sources that inspired the original RE1.Sadly it's also RE7 that's responsible for the demolishing and rebuilding of the gameplay mechanical core of this action horror series, and it's that system that's responsible for more than half of RE4 remakes gameplay, scenario and artistic woes. Megascan asset photogrammetry and RE7 movement data does not lend itself to creating a masterwork of action game design because they're just reusing assets from slower paced horror games without creating brand new action systems from the ground up. RE engine cash grabs are factory assembly line works of disposable, consumable contentFun, well assembled, good looking. IKEA furniture. You've seen it before, you'll see it again.
>>736915097Artistic merits are my childhood games :DAdulthood games dont have lel art!!!! No its not nostalgia!!!
>>736915084Its not the original, to change it at all means you dont appreciate the artistic integrity
>>736915441>to change it at all means you dont appreciate the artistic integrity how so? i disagree
>>736914835>passionate human beings painstakingly work countless hours to restore a gigantic piece of art software over decades of time traveling thousands of miles across the world compelled by nothing but sheer determination, autism, and romantic attachment to a masterwork of horror mediaNothing personell, kiddo. Remake will never, ever even approach this level of cultural verisimilitude. It will only ever just be another remake in a sea of endless remakes.
>>736915363>Adulthood games dont have lel art!!!! Not when they gut a game that had plenty of it in the name of the latest retarded corpo-market-researched trends, no.If you got your head out of your ass and used your eyes and your brain, you'd understand exactly why modern games are severely lacking in artistry. It's not just because they're new, it's because of the design philosophies and trends that are part of the modern corporate approach. But again, why are you even weighing in if you don't believe games are just toys and can't be artistic? You are not equipped to talk about it and you just come across like a massive retard.
By waiting 3 years to release this Crowbcat literally proved his point.RE4 fans>Still appreciating this classic 20 years later>Still discussing its masterful game design and how nothing else really plays like it>Has one of the most beautiful HD texture packs fan mods ever made that took 10+ years to makeREmake4 fans>"Ugh, are we STILL talking about this? MOVE ON">"Japanese soldier still fighting lololololol">"meh I liked it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"After just 3 years the fans of REmake4 has already moved on. It wasn't the 10/10 MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETE that game journalists claimed, it was merely fine, a footnote in gaming history, an unnecessary modern remake.
>>736915684>>736915363>if you don't believe games are just toys and can't be artisticAccidental double negative, but suck my ass. I'm only acknowledging it because I know if I don't you'll ignore everything else and try to claim victory over it.
>>736911378How many years of cope will 4chan have over these games?
The only games RE4 influenced was Dead Space and Last of Us. It was a good game but its influence is heavily overstated, at least its positive influence.
>>736915574Not the original game poser, you can cope all you want but you changed the game thus showing you dont appreciate the original. Its simple as that
>>736915734>after just 3 years the fans of REmake4 has already moved onImagine the guys who spent thousands of dollars to fly around taking pictures of the RE4 texture castles just moved on and stopped caring after 900 days of the project
>>736915840>copeNot an argument.
>>736915853Cliffy B literally said RE4 and Kill Switch was the main inspirations for Gears of War, so by extension everyone ripping off Gears of War gameplay is ripping off RE4 too
>>736915853I don't know how anybody could possibly think this.
>>736915734>After just 3 years the fans of REmake4 has already moved onWhy does it have more players than every other RE game even requiem?
>>736915684>Not when they gut a game that had plenty of it in the name of the latest retarded corpo-market-researched trends, no.>If you got your head out of your ass and used your eyes and your brain, you'd understand exactly why modern games are severely lacking in artistry. It's not just because they're new, it's because of the design philosophies and trends that are part of the modern corporate approach.So like the original re4, they followed the action movie QTE over slow survival horror cause the corporate owners saw action sells more. Dont act like corporate meddling didn't exist back then
>>736915734>It wasn't the 10/10 MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETENo one was claiming that except obnoxious crowbcat fags. Most liked the changes in RE4 remake and it felt new and different enough to play through. OG RE4 is on every system on the fucking planet, it was ported more than Skyrim. You can get it on the fucking Zeebo. It a bit much to cry about this shit when other companies pull the original after a remake release like R* or RGG studios
>>736915958People are retards and chase the new shiny thing
>>736911378>People can't express a game opinion without fags like OP losing their shit and acting like they're being told what to think
>>736915956We’ll refute it with examples. All I got was it influence gears of war which is pretty awful since that popularized aggressive cover shooting in games
>>736916078it's not the shiny new thing, that's requiem
>>736916039>It wasn't the 10/10 MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETE>No one was claiming that except obnoxious crowbcat fagsIGN (biggest gaming review site in the world) REmake4 review literally said that word for word, half their review of the game is just talking about how stinky and old RE4 is and how we can finally enjoy it again in [current year]
>>736916008Corporate meddling was nowhere near as invasive or retarded then. Or more to the point, it was countered by developers who actually knew and cared what they were doing. Gaming was a smaller industry that had room for things that weren't focus-testing, market-research and "line go up". The purest evidence for this is the fact that this remake even exists. Every-fucking-thing is a remake, rehash, or nostalgia grab now.
>getting your opinions from an ecelebgrim
>>736916039Shouldn't the same logic apply to the MGS3 remake? Nobody gives a fuck about it.
>>736915441Anon....RE4 remake developers don't appreciate the artistic integrity of the original. That's why the art style wasn't painstakingly recreated, it was asset flipped. That's why character designs are compromised. That's why dialogue was changed and censored. That's why enemies, locations, scenarios, weapons were cut. Ashley wears shorts and pantyhose and a jacket for half of the game and her ears are covered and Ada Wong is covered and the puzzles are covered (in yellow paint).Every single one of these things you have to try and mod away or purchase DLC to access in order for the remake to be more like Resident Evil 4, just to sniff an ounce of the original games authentic artistic merit.
>>736911378>better combat>more consistent tone>less bloat>Ashley is more likeable>Leon has more depth>Luis isn't a nothing character>Separate Ways isn't just a rehash campaignb-but new bad old good!!!
>>736916140a 3 year old game is still a shiny new thing, especially when it's part of a shiny new thing series
>>736915441why are you not responding to >>736915525
>>736916298>refusing to engage with opinions because someone else also said them and that makes them easy to dishonest dismissgrimmer
>>736911495RE2R = bare bones TPS gameplayRE3R = added dodgeRE7 = since its a FPS game you can block attacks to reduce incoming damageRE8 = same than RE7RE4R = You can parry attacks, stealth kill and crouch to dodge attacksRequiem = You can't crouch, but your perfect parries give you a instakill action and now you can parry even explosions
>>736911378*has never had sex*
>>736916212>Well IGN said something stupidwater is wet, if you’re going to argue with every stupid statement IGN makes, you’re going to argue everyday
>>736915916By proxy, every single person who has enjoyed TPS shooters this century has RE4 to thank for pioneering this ubiquitous genre. That doesn't mean Resident Evil 4 must hold up to the same design standards of newer works when it comes to gameplay challenge or scenario variety, but that's not the point. You're supposed to be inspired by it, you're not supposed to just outright copy it again and again.This game that everyone is shitting their pants like it's the best game ever is nothing but an imitation of the real "best game ever" and there are already games that helped improve on the formula, they're called RE5 and RE6.This is the final pill for the RE4 remake defenders. They will all become RE6 remake defenders, washing over the past sins and unique, risk taking game designs with asset flips and homogenous user experiences.
>>736916489His wife and child were literally murdered
>>736916324>worse combat>awkward self-conscious tone>more bloat>Ashley is politically corrected>Leon has more bloat>Luis has more bloat>Separate Ways is paid DLCb-but old bad new good!!!
>>736916408Why? You just said you disagree
Ragebait thread
>*shits all over the thread*
>>736916412>regurgitating opinions wholesale because you have no identitygrimmest
>>736916265>Corporate meddling was nowhere near as invasive or retarded thenYeah they were, you were just a kid and social media didn't exist so you didn't hear about it as much
>>736916489>I called him an incel, so his opinions literally don't matter, also I'm a freak who thinks about everything in terms of who stuck whose dick in whose vagina
>RE4R was already forgotten, RE4 WILL ALWAYS BE PLAYED>meanwhile in the real world>RE4R maintaning 10k players for the last 3 years>thanks to the video now jumped to 40k>meanwhile the pristine RE4 still sits at 2.5k players on steam>unironically RE4 best numbers were before RE4R launched and it was only a sad 5k playersSo crowbat is just a disguised shill promoting CAPCOM new remake?
>>736911378Crazy how much seethe this guy causes. /v/ is full of marketeer shills on Capcom's payroll so of course they'd have a melty kek.
>>7369163533 years is already very old, in contrast, game of the year winner expedition 33 has very low player count compared to 4 remake despite being newerthat also doesn't explain why it's still significantly higher than the shiny new thing that is requiem
The remake is fantastic It doesn’t capture every good thing about the original You’d be fine if you only played the remakeThe original is one of the best games ever made All of these things are true at the same time
>>736916534>worse combatLiterally how? Dodging, free movement, parrying, not having to pause the menu all the time, there's no way anyone can say the OG game had better combat
>>736916670>regurgitating games wholesale because you have no cultureHEYYYOOOOOOOOOOYOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED LMAO
>>736916317>but whatabout other gameI was talking about og re4 mod
>>736916692You are phenomenally retarded if you can't see the obvious difference between corporate influence then and corporate influence now.To the point there's no point even talking to you. We're on completely different levels of comprehension.
Looks like the Crowbat guy was finally vindicated. Everyone here laughed at him when he first said RE4 Remake was shit. The passing of time has made people take off their reverse nostalgia googles, it seems.
>>736916615im asking for your opinion, why do you think any change automatically means they don't respect artistic integrity? i don't think simply updating a texture using the same reference is disrespectful. the texture being low quality wasn't an artistic choice, it was a hardware limitation
>>736916814What would you even know about corporate influence back then lmao, you think they were good wholesome corporations back then
>>736916670>you're not allowed to have an opinion if X person also shares it>but here let me use review scores, steam charts, and game awards as proof that this game is good, without ever actually speaking abouts its merits
>>736916489I thought he and Dillon were a couple?
>>736911378>saying this now that its safelmaoMork mogs this grifter motherfuckerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJGvS4f-HQ
>>736916913I don't use any of those things thoughbeit
>>736916739>game made for modern audience gets a modern audiencewow
>>736916758>You’d be fineBut you wouldn't have actually played Resident Evil 4. You'd have played a modern remake game that retells the scenario of RE4. It's not the same thing, and it never will be. It never can be.
>>736914437>Game so good that the only gotcha antis can bring up is how the devs went for a more realistic art style so it's prove that they changed everything about the original and thus it's bad.
The gay parry, TLOU stealth and shitty "kill 10 rats" side quests are already dating REmake4 harder than the QTE's in the original ever have
Viewer count watch updateIt’s looking pretty bad bros, we’re flatlining. We’re lucky to even crack 500k views. This was not the return to form that we expected
>>736911378>he doubled downl m a omao
>>736911378RE4R is not even the worst remake, that goes to FF7 remake.
>>736916872>it was a hardware limitationWhich drives the artistic choices, to look at the textures and tell yourself "meh i can improve it" is saying you don't respect its art to enjoy it as is
>>736916957>nowCrowbcat was saying RE4R was bad since the beginning. He copped a lot of flack and Asmongold made fun of him for it.
>>736917158Nevermind then
>>736916753> in contrast, game of the year winner expedition 33 has very low player count compared to 4 Different genre, and despite its popularity it doesn't have the brand power of RE>that also doesn't explain why it's still significantly higher than the shiny new thing that is requiemRE4 is a shit remake based on a good game, Requiem is just a shit game through and throughFor some reason it generated basically no hype. and honestly I think that's because RE3R and then RE4R left a sour taste in so many people's mouths. But a lot of the people who won't buy Requiem already own RE4R, and just because it's a shitty remake it doesn't mean there is zero merit to playing it.Or they're like me and it takes them three years to beat it because they can only stomach it in small doses, lmao
>>736916989>>Game so good that the only gotcha antis can bring upHow about>Jill's lockpick is nerfed, lowering campaign differences by magnitudes>far more linear right from the start, HAVE to go down the arrow hall and get the Sword key right away, can't go anywhere else>Mansion goes from having a modernish look to over the top candlit halls, someone having lit the candles in the MONTHS the mansion was filled with zombies>Guardhouse goes from looking like it was actually used (you know, since it was) to dilapidated and old, despite being where all the fucking guards lived>Neptune's small room is changed from believable to a huge aqua ring where Neptune insta kills you on a time like it's RE4>we get not-Nemesis, boring piece of shit that barely does anything other than add in explanations we didn't really need>caves are expanded and made worse with the gay box pushing>Barry's survival is changed from subtle to a literal "Yes or No" choice>Hunters are nerfed and censored (no decaps, despite showing them in the trailers)>Tics are cut instead of being expanded on>Second Tyrant in Chris' campaign is cut and isn't even present in Hard mode or Real Survival>Arranged/Advanced Mode is cut>Battle Game is cut (and with it, zombie Wesker and Gold Tyrant)>costumes from all the older games are cut and replaced with two of the worst costumes in the series and admittedly decent costumes that reference RE3 and CVX>the white beretta from Arranged mode is cut>Minimi and Submachine Gun (PC ver.) is cut>the Library is completely butchered, the room overlooking the helipad is cut>MO Disc collection is dumbed down>Self Defense items are added to make the game easier>shortcuts are added to make the return trip easier>the ONLY new modes are just basic 'Turn enemies invisible,' 'Only have one zombie,' 'lol item box doesn't work'>references to games beyond 2 are locked in a Japanese exclusive pile of text, Wesker's Report II>no attempt to tie into 0
>you can still stun enemies fairly easily shooting both of their feet>NOOOOO WHY CAN'T I JUST HIT THEM ONCE IN THE HEAD AND MASH A FOR THE ENTIRE GAME
>>736916758I don't agree that the remake is good, but I admire that you can have a nuanced opinion on this godforsaken site
>>736916324>>less bloat4make is bloated with useless side quests and a shitty boat section while cutting out real gameplay like the "it" monster in the cage area
Pain in the butt
It's weird that he has a section crying about le cut content when with Separate Ways virtually no setpieces are cut>out of nowhere starts crying about Alyson Court not voicing Claire Redfield at age 60 What the fuck even is this video
>>736911378RE4R is fine People who like the original can play thatAnd the people who prefer the remake can play that oneEverybody winsYou guys are falling for the grift it’s insanely easy to compare one thing to another and it’s even easier to disparage something. Do you not see that content creators are farming you for money?
>>736916760The movement is atrocious, the dodging and parrying are shitty mechanics bolted onto a game that was always about positioning, threat prioritisation and situational awareness, and did I mention the movement is fucking godawful?If they were going to mess with the combat so much, they should have just done a complete overhaul instead of halfassed refurbishing that completely misses the point>not having to pause the menu all the timeThis is a good thing, I agree. Honestly, it's something the original needed.
>>736916981What you said is true But my point is If someone were to ask me which version they should playI would tell them “You should play the remake. The original is one of the best games ever made, and is better than the remake for its time. You should still just play the remake.”
>>736917149i don't agree with that at all, feels very hyperbolic to come to that conclusion. what do you think of remakes then? like RE1 for GC
>you don't understand, RE4 is the defacto best game ever made>meanwhile in real lifeNow try to cope without saying that people are wrong or that its for "modern audiences".
>>736917291no one actually likes U3 and its placement in the original game is horrendous. Making it a recurring villain for Ada makes both the main game and Separate Ways better experiences. RE4R is a longer game than the original even with LE CUT CONTENT memes
>>736917247What are your criticisms of the remake?Aesthetic and art design decisions?Removal of some of the excellent campy tone stuff?
>>736917381>positioning, threat prioritisation and situational awarenessThings the remake still has? You need to be aware of certain enemies like ones that throw fire or explosives or enemies that are unarmed that can grab you. Parry just allows the enemies to actually be aggressive and for more dynamic gameplay instead of each enemy slowly walking towards you and taking their turn attacking
>>736917393guess minecraft, fifa and roblox are better games
>>736916896> you think they were good wholesome corporations back thenNo, faggotBut they weren't as malignantly greedy as they are now. There was still room for passionate developers and artistic vision. You only need to take one glance at the current state of gaming and everything else to understand the difference. If you're not a blistering retard at least
>>736916492>No one says that >Here are some shills saying that>They don't count because they don'tRiveting.
Crowbcat had a temper tantrum over RE9's massive success and made this seethe compilation as a big cope
>>736917393Dead By Daylight is a better game lol.It even has RE characters, it's superior because more players.Are you starting to see how fucking retarded, gay, and shit brown you really are now?
>>736917390I consider remakes to be entirely different games and are different works of art
Why did RE4 remake mindbreak this dude?
>>736916965>I don't use any of those things thoughbeitGood
>>736917195requiem is the fastest selling game in the franchise thoughwhat a weird lil fella bending over backwards lying left and right just to discredit 4R in any way he can lmao
>>736917086>We’re lucky to even crack 500k views.That's because the legions of buttblasted faggots trying to refute it haven't even bothered to watch it kek
>>736917521He's beyond fucking mad that it came out to a 93 meta score, is the highest rated Steam RE game and most played. The cuck built up in his head that it would flop in 2023.
>>736917393re3 remake > re3 according to you
>>736917521the game killed his livelihood
Going back to the well, huh? Damn that's some desperation to get relevance back
>>736917479>But they weren't as malignantly greedy as they are now.Go look up old developer stories about corporations back then
>>736917142They are both terrible
>>736917521he thought he had control on the public zeitgeist with his GTA 4 vs GTA V video but can't accept that he can be wrong at times
>>736917510same, i really like RE4R. be honest, do you *actually* have an issue with the hd project? it feels more like you just wanted to argue with the anti remake dude
>>736917485If you’re going to argue with IGN then you might be a retarded because anyone with intelligence knows to ignore them. It’s like trying to get into an argument with the crack head bum on the street. Even if you won you still lost for wasting your time because you took the crackhead seriously
>>736917521His videos were getting like 2-3M views until he did one on RE4 and it's never breached 1M since, it's typically down around 500K. He contrarian'd too hard and it murdered his relevance so he's really mad at the game for it
>>736917593based. Filtered all the normalfags from his channel
Daily reminder that RE4 OG cultits are just CoD and browngames era zoomers that think that the game is the best when in reality its the reason why games sucks nowadays:>popularized Over the shoulder gameplay, the defacto Sony experience game>one of the first BROWN era games before it was a thing>destroyed the Resident Evil franchise>flanderized Leon S Kennedy >proto Marvel quips>normalized players paying 60 dollars for re-releases of remasters that delivered less content by cutting weapons
>>736916324>better combat>posting the webm that's using the snappy movement mod that deliberately tries to make the game's movement feel closer to the originalgetting mixed signals here, thought the remake was perfect already, why are you using a mod to make it play more like the og?
>>736917393>can't comprehend that most people are not using his favorite game-renting store to play a 20 year old PS2 gameWhy are all zoomertroon demake sloppers so retarded lol
>>736912049Re4 is a well-designed game that the developers invented mechanics and systems specifically for, and they worked so well they became trends; re4 remake is the same game except it has all the trendy current things that people right now like, like parries, stealth kills, movement and looking-around inertia, de-emphasized hitstun, crafting/durability, two-stick aiming and moving, and so on. These mechanics were put in because it came out in 2023 and that's what a "modern game" in current year is, not because it was what was best for the game. After parries and crafting/survival/fake-stealth slop die down, people will wonder what the point was in including them, whereas the original RE4 is still unique, still intuitive, still great to play. I daresay that when the two-stick/mouse-keyboard aiming system gets superseded by another control scheme, people will look at modern games the way zoomers look at ps1 games, as these unplayable, janky pieces of shit, like "why is my camera and aim swaying all over the place? why do the enemies track me so that every attack is a quick-time event whose solution is as simple as pressing square? why these fucking slow-walk sections?"Imagine if they remade The Godfather in 2018 and gave everyone fidget spinners, wrote the script like a Marvel movie, made one of the guys into a caricature of Donald Trump, made references to Ninja and Fortnite and had kpop as the soundtrack and had a scene where Vito Corleone scrolls Tik Tok. Also the fans of the remake believe the original is an unwatchable piece of shit because they didn't use CGI for all the sets and had lighting that wasn't algorithmically generated with the latest ray-tracing technology. That's re4 remake.
>>736917625>GTA 4 vs GTA V videohe got btfod with that one toohttps://youtu.be/qFbkXffa85E
>>736917593>tries to cater to his 360 era viewers after getting buckbroken by 4makeCapGod won
>>736917653>They still don't countThen suggest a criteria that would debunk your claim of "nobody says this". Otherwise, any individual example you will just write off as "this doesn't count".
>>736917543Not lying, but unlike you I don't give a shit about sales numbers or player counts, I'm just trying to explain the trend I inferred from your post.The fact remains that RE4R is, while inferior to the original, actually built on a good game. So it's going to be more playable than a thoroughly shit game like Requiem.
>>736917497>>736917521>>736917543>>736917564>>736917593Has a fanbase ever been mindbroken harder than nu-crapcum demakesloppers? Crowbchad literally gave these dudes PTSD. They will go to sleep thinking about him
>>736911378You’re retarded because you care. About a game. I’m 52. I’ve been gaming since the 70s. It’s my main hobby. My kids game. My gfs game. But not even I give three shits about this. Loser
>>736917564>literally begging for viewsnot watching your slop crowby
>>736917593>makes a video shilling OLD halo>outting himself as a zoomer blinded by nostalgia>soul vs Souless RE4>showing again that was blinded by nostalgia>AND ENDS WITH A STUPID VIDEO OF HOW BROWN ERA GAMES WERE...ACTUALLY THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE??????Notice how he never touched RE3R, RE2R or older games than 2000, he is such a fucking Zoomer that never played the classics but that hold RE4 for an autistic reason as the best game ever made.
>>736911509>Re4 wanted to be an action game with fucking tank controls.you mean like the greatest action game ever made?
>>736917585Have you ever considered what it would be like to have an actual opinion of your own, instead of obsessing over which game got what review score?And to stick to that opinion consistently?
>>736917735>>736917746>>736917806>>736917819Literally mindraped loltroonmake lost btw
>>736917819Post 2001 is when games finally became good
>>736917794you will still be thinking and making videos about 4remake when you're 60 crowbcuck
>>736917819Because the resident evils up to 3 were clunky garbage.
>>736917497RE9 was shit. Even Mauler thinks so.
>>736917593>>736917663So it is about money
>>736917756Any e-celeb with a sizable following call the original RE4 obsolete? Considering this is an e-celeb thread. No one pay attention to what individual gaming news review sites say, that’s why people use metacritic to get the aggregate score.
Fine if I do play Resident Unc 4, do I need to mod it or is it just playable as is?
>>736917806>weighing in on a video he hasn't even seen>trying to refute something he doesn't know the content ofit's just so sad
>That one guy posting steam player chartsI wonder if he's ever heard of the flies eating shit analogy.
>>736917995get the project HD mod. looks nice and also fixed the 60fps bugs
>>736917993>Sizeable following Nope, give a hard cutoff, you'll just try and weasle out and say it's "not big enough" otherwise.
>>736918062So you dont think the original is timeless
>>736918110The original PC port? No. We're talking about Capcom remember.
>>736917917You'll still be seething about Crowbcat when you're 60 (while everyone will have forgotten 4demakeslop KEEEK)
>>736917995Unmodded PC version has some quirks but seems playable enough. You can't go wrong with emulating the console versions though.
>>736917993>that’s why people use metacritic to get the aggregate scoreto get aggregate scores from... game journalists that no one pays attention... hmm...
>>736918110It's not, just play the remake. It's better anyway.
>>736916969You said RE4R would be forgotten. It hasn't been. It has more fans currently than the original and will gain more as the original becomes forgotten. Only uncs obsessed with their childhood keep playing it and they're dying off day by day
>>736918064Sure, here’s the criteria.>at least 100k views youtube video on RE4 Remake>They must say that the original is obsolete or directly say that they shouldn’t pay the original>Cant be a faceless gaming news channel, the reviewer has to be the star of the channel and not an employee
>>736913692>>736913931I’m not saying it’s zoomers that perpetuated it necessarily. It’s almost always a bunch of bumblefuck millennial fagtubers who have mythologized and glorified VHS & PS1/2 to a retarded degree and it just rubbed off on zoomers
>>736918150nope, I will be enjoying my resident evil 9 remake and discuss it with the 20 billion people that will play the game as well :)
>>736917593Todd Howard was proven right once
>>736917819>Notice how he never touched RE3R, RE2R or older games than 2000why would he? everyone agrees 2R is fun and adds some neat stuff even if it strays too far from the original, and everyone agrees 3R is shit. why would he bother making videos focused for old games when his channel focuses on showing the flaws in new ones?
>>736918110It was considered timeless by everyone, until a bunch of ecelebs played the remake and started to rewrite history with claims that the original always sucked
>>736918168Yeah, they don’t read what the gaming news site actually says, they just want the number score. High score good, low score bad
>>736918192No, you have to understand RE4R has:>more views on youtube>more discussion around it>more copies sold>more players playing RIGHT now>more players making mods for it>grifters trying to say that is shitB-but RE4 OG is the actual greatest one, RE4R is just a bad remake because its for M-M-M-MODERN AUDIENCES
>>736918141>The original >PC portThe og isnt on PC, if you didn't beat it with a gamecube controller then you didn't play it
>>736918261Ps2 is a zoomer console
>>736918192>You said RE4R would be forgotten.I didn't personally say this, but I do think it will fade into irrelevance while the original stands the test of time. Like a lot of games that are initially hyped when they're fresh, but later acknowledged by most to be mediocre.Maybe you should wait for longer than 3 years before you try to do a victory lap, lol
>>736918192It pretty much was forgotten until Crowbcat mentioned it again. So people remember it now, except they realise it was a bad game this time. It's not like high numbers of people playing slop ever meant slop is good. They're just flies landing on shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2jy6A_rlQ>zoomers will watch this and then unironically try to argue that 4R is a quality product that improves upon the original
>>736918110what?
>>736918243These ones did.
>>736918375
>>736918110Play the Gamecube version, it's still a great game that way too. It's fundamentally the same core gameplay experience, but you'll be missing out on some extras. You can play Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition just like you can play it on a PS2 emulator and nobody will ever tell you differently if you choose either one.RE4 on GCN, Wii, PS2, PC with no mods, PC with mods, play it on a fucking iPhone if you want to. But you can never EVER claim that changing the textures resolution or adding QoL or skimpy mods or restoring cut JP content like camera angles means that the game was fundamentally different. It's literally the original experience.You shill for a fucking censored, clone of an imitation. Have some self awareness already.
>>736918338None of which is relevant to which game will ultimately be remembered, unless you're a midwit
>>736918338>>736918404So far, nothing to back up your claim. It's the exact opposite.
>>736918412Yeah it was so forgotten that we had hourly threads for months and the game had a higher player count than requiem before he even dropped his video.
why are there so many RE threads today? Did I miss something? I live under a rock
you guys are blaming zoomers but it's the millennial ecelebs that worship remake
>>7369184454 year olds were playing that in 2001
>>736917794I'm the one that asked why the game mindbroke him. I'm 35, played the original when it came out, enjoyed it immensely, and moved on like 99.99% (repeating) of the population did. I played the remake when it came out, enjoyed it immensely, appreciated the fresh perspective on the original while indulging in some nostalgia of things I didn't remember from the original, and moved on like 99.99% (repeating) of the population did. People that get hyperfixated and overly protective of one game, album, comic, movie, TV show episode, etc. are very weird.
>>736918274>makes a video saying that OLD Halo is better than NEW Halo>makes a video that OLD Call of Duty is better than NEW Halo>makes a video that Dead Rising Remaster is worst than the original>makes a video that Back 4 Blood is worst than Left 4 Dead>makes a video saying that OLD Gears of Wars is better than NEW Gears of WarBro, the entire career of this grifter is to get easy wins on the internet, notice of all games that he compared to old titles RE4R is the first one that has a discussion around?
>>736918192You know that RE4 came out in 2005, right? Millions of actual, passionate people already played this masterpiece a long time ago. That's why all of "your" favorite games are built around RE4.You realize that you simp for and endlessly defend a cloned imitation of a 20 year old game, while denigrating that same 20 year old game for being "forgotten"? You are literally living inside of its shadow every post you write.
>>736918487Crowbcat dropped another truth nuke and /v/nezuelans are seething again
>>736918438So if I open these videos they’re going to tell me to not play the original RE4? Two of those videos seem to be about the Original RE4 calling them a master piece
>>736918475>player countBillions of flies like eating shit. So you should too.
>>736918605All of those are correct
>>736918605>is right on all of themYour point, zoomer tourist?
>>736918487>CAPCOM is sending shills to shit on RE1R to justify a new remake>people are still hyped about RE9, best selling game of 2026 so far>now with the RE4R vs RE4 video there's a discussion around another titleNow we just need Nakey Jackey or other stupid essayer to say how RE6 is actually a great game so we can get 10+ threads per hour about Resident Evil franchise AND later this week we will get a Trailer for the new Resident Evil movie, so, brace yourselves, its only getting worst.
>>736918605Soooo you're mad he's rightI don't get zoombie discourse
>>736918473>Maybe you should wait for longer than 3 yearsYou do understand this shit takes time, right? I know that to your rotted, tiktok addled brain, anything that isn't immediate gratification may as well not exist, but you are an even bigger retard than I thought if you don't understand that these trends play out over a decade or more. Especially now, when games take forever to be released and don't make any meaningful advancements.It took at least a decade for people to collectively realize that Bioshock Infinite sucked, and that was hyped to an insane degree when it came out. Hype dropoff and reassment doesn't happen overnight.Learn some patience.
>>736918454>It's literally the original experience.Literally its not, what does original even mean to you. You did not play it poser whats next you played guitar hero without the guitar controller but thats ok right
>>736918682>it was already forgotten>if it wasn't then it doesn't count!Very intellectual arguments going on here as expected of /v/.
>>736918729Name a single other series that still makes good games
>>736918805I played the "shitty, downgraded" PS2 version in 2006 when you were a thought in your daddies head
>>736918790It's not going to happen. You'll die and RE4 Remake will still be selling and being played over the original. You're such a cuck. Crowtranny has lost authority since 2023. This video probably won't even break 500k views.
>>736918592>moved on from the original>moved on from the remakeCongratulations, you are an amazing and superior person.Why, then, are you discussing games you moved on from?Is a moved-on chad like you even allowed to have an opinion about games that are older than 3 months?
>>736918487>video comes out a couple years ago from crowbcat showing the differences between RE4 and RE4R>particularly how 4R looks like total shit and has far less immersive detail>most people didn't particularly care, comments were full of zoomers saying they liked 4R better even if it dropped the ball in a few areas, etc.>a professional shill freaks the fuck out and starts screaming that crowbcat fucked with the audio to make 4R look worse>this is disproven almost instantly>legions of shills still scream the lie for months on end>congratulate themselves on "cancelling" crowbcat and proving that 4R is good now>when even if it was true, the audio problems are maybe 20% of the overall issues raised in the video but the shills don't talk about that>crowbcat releases a second video showing how shit 4R is, including a massive section on how everyone had to fiddle extensively with the game's audio, proving his original point>shills are now in full meltdownSo really nothing changed, everyone who wasn't a tard already knew 4R was shit.
>>736918706>>736918724He made fame doing easy comparisons of obvious bad games and had no discussion or negativity surrounding the videos, only shills agreeing with his poiints, now his RE4R was debunked and mindbroke him to the point of making another one that debunks nothing and had to use as source people that are known contrarians just for the sake of it (BrittGaming, MichaelDoesLife and the green camera streamer).
>>736918903so you're telling me that 21 years from now the remake is going to maintain these numbers, is that right?
>>736918972If it was that easy why didn't you do it?
>>736918605>>makes a video saying that OLD Halo is better than NEW Halo>>makes a video that OLD Call of Duty is better than NEW Halo>>makes a video that Dead Rising Remaster is worst than the original>>makes a video that Back 4 Blood is worst than Left 4 Dead>>makes a video saying that OLD Gears of Wars is better than NEW Gears of WarYes, and?>notice of all games that he compared to old titles RE4R is the first one that has a discussion around?Yeah, because shills got attached to 4R and decided to die on this stupid fucking hill for no reason. Again, what is your point? Do you even have one other than "I want his channel to do something entirely different than what his channel is known for doing"?
>>736919030It will maintain higher numbers than the original
>>736919049Whats your point? What the fuck is wrong with this board nowadays?
>>736915734Both the original which I have been playing for 20 years and the remake which I have been playing for 3 are in my top 10 games lolIf someone starts complaining that headshots are not insta-stuns, they should be immediately dismissed. It trivializes the original and should not have come back
Why did they turn RE into a fucking parry game of all things?RE4 achieved far more by just giving all enemies actually reactive hitboxes. You could stun them by shooting their arm or make them fall by shooting their leg without dealing with a completely unnecessary hidden stagger bar. Hell you could physically hit enemies with a knife in close range to stagger them and it required far more skill to pull off.
>>736918903>You'll die and RE4 Remake will still be selling and being played over the originalYes, so? I'll die and somewhere in the world some tard will be eating his own feces. What's your point?
>>736916078Clinging to dried up shit is equally retarded. Double so if you turn it into your entire personality.
>>736911509>Re4 wanted to be an action game with fucking tank controls.And... it worked? There's nothing inherently wrong with tank controls.
>>736916739>3/4 of the RE4R's players are because of Crowb's video and Requiem>Otherwise, it's at 10k, and the 20 year old game that everyone has played on console already is consistently maintaining 1/4 of the shiny new Modern Audience Remake's player countThat's actually pretty fucking dire for RE4R lol
>People will be geriatrics on their deathbed and still seethe that people on the internet liked a video game that they didn't Grim
>>736917819>Gordo anarcobaitola Opinion discarded
>>736913094/thread
>>736911378>the game was so bad I didn’t even notice it was bad the two times I played itUh ok buddy
>>736911378that video is probably shit with a dumb title like that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJGvS4f-HQthis one is much better
THE WORLD IS WRONG, NOT ME, I'M THE RIGHTEOUS ONE, I HAVE SUPERIOR TASTES, WHEN I SAY THAT THIS GAME IS BETTER DESPISE BEING OUTSHINE BY THE NEWER VERSION ON EVERY SINGLE ASPECT YOU GUYS MUST LISTEN TO ME, BECAUSE THE WORLD IS WOKE, BLACKED, CONTROLLED BY JEWISH MEDIA THAT WANTS TO DESTROY THE WHITE RACE
>>736919120Nowadays?It's been nothing but porn spam and twitter memes for a decade
If RE4 were so great, more people would play it.
No shit, this is its time. Unless that guy is a time traveller it is an asinine thing to say
Reminder that Crowbcat has been samefagging in literally ALL of these threads.See: >>736911495
>>736918903I don't know why you're so upset, but your "arguments" (kek) don't really sound credible when they're full of barely-disguised seethe, sorry.Are you the guy I called out yesterday for trying to wage a gay little one-sided war? You sound like him.Sad that you're still trying to turn games into a team sport instead of enjoying them and forming an individual opinion like a sane person.If you're looking for dumbfuck retard wars you should really check out the console war threads. These RE4 threads will die out soon, but you could be screeching about SNOYS or TENDIES for years.Think about it.
OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>736919165Because it was too easy to shoot a guy’s leg in the crowd and sweep all of them. RE4RE is far more punishing when you get crowded, it’s why they also reduced a lot of the iframes and made enemies grabby. It’s likely a change made to compliment the more movement focus style of gameplay in the remake
>>736919429Sorry, wrong post:SEE >>736908891>Starts talking first person at the end.
Crowbcat lost
>>736919494no way this is real
>>736919429it's true, i'm crowbcat
>>736914159what's wrong with using a controller on pc and just fixing the 60fps bugs with a mod? i agree people playing 4 with kbm are subhuman
This discussion only happens because RE4R is the superior game, there's no discussion now that RE1R, RE2R or RE3R are better or worst because they are worst remakes.
>>736919572Because when we say that we can fix every single problem with RE4R you guys lose your mind.>yellow paint?MOD IT>no stagger on headshotMOD IT>bad voice actingMOD IT
>>736911378>He fell for the Capcom demake troon tranny shills Stupid zoomer
>>736919616All REmake are superior though
>>736919719You can't mod bad voice acting.
>>736919719>you guyswtf are you talking about, i like the remake. so you're just spouting opinions you don't really mean to "get at" people you don't like?
>>736919719>>bad voice acting>MOD ITI'm not putting slop in my game.
>>736914159>doesn't play it on gamecubeI have played it on gamecube, playing RE4 with a gamecube controller is still the peak, but higher framerate and resolution is nice>plays with mouse keyboardI have never played RE4 with mouse and keyboard but it sounds awful>uses mods and texture packsI normally hate visual overhaul mods but the RE4 HD project is one of the most beautiful things ever created, it's probably the closest video games have come to legit art restoration, overhauling the textures while still keeping the aesthetics intact is no small feat
>>736919194My personality is liking good things and disliking bad things, regardless of how old or new they are. It just so happens that we're going through a phase where new things are almost universally shit. Maybe one day that will change, but in the meantime it's cool that you've adopted the self-preservation strategy of covering your eyes so you don't have to acknowledge reality.
>>736919616No it’s because the fanbase crowbcat caters to weren’t alive when RE1-3 came out. He caters to those who are nostalgic for the late PS2 early 360 era. Which is why he made nostalgia bait videos for Oblivion, CoD4, GTA4, and RE4
>>736919719>we can fix every single problem with RE4Rthe sluggish RDR2-esque movement is the biggest issue. not saying the remake is bad, but that's a problem mods can't fix
>>736919792You have to remember that shills don't actually like the remake, they just hate anything that isn't the newest brand of slop.
Didn't even know this video came out, his channel really did die
>>736919429I can confirm, I am also crowbcat. I’m also Max Payne too
>>736919884https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/2725
>>736919930Hating on leon's game does that to people
>>736919313>DESPISE BEING OUTSHINE BY THE NEWER VERSION ON EVERY SINGLE ASPECTHow come I always see actual arguments in favor of OG but the posts in favor of remake are just unsubstantiated assertions like this, combined with seething outrage that people could possibly prefer the original?
>>736918903>denigrate the original masterwork>attack the fanbase that built the house you are occupying when they tell you to stop denigrating their house>defend to your death the cloned imitation of the masterwork as being superior without a shred of self awareness to your cognitive dissonanceYep, it's a zoombie alright.
>>736919975>>736919884This mod and +Legs shot stagger + Headshot stagger mods makes it feel better than RE4 OG by a mile.
>>736919501>samefags himself to pretend to be crowbcat samefaggingThat's really sad dude
>>736919975i mean they can't fix it as in skipping those frames undoubtedly makes the game significantly easier. it's balanced around leon being sluggish i still like re4r and did several runs including professional >>736920137that makes the game way, way too easy
>>736919616The only good remakes are RE1 and RE2, and both have pretty major problems
>>736920137>has to literally force more of the original back in to make the remake palatable>still can't admit that the remake is soullessKeep on denigrating the original masterpiece while actively stepping on the rake.
>>736920189Just like OG? In OG you only die to QTE or accidently blowing/shooting Ashley.
>>736919719>mod that fixes framerate vs mod that entirely changes the nature of the gameGee I wonder why the latter isn't an accepted argument when it comes to which game is better
Looks like Crowbcat was right all along. People just couldn't accept it when the product being criticised was fresh. This happens all the time with movies.
>>736913181Yes, that is a general truism for products in the entertainment industry today. Much of it is low-quality slop made to satisfy quarterly profits today, so necessarily a high-quality product is the exception rather than the norm. If you disagree with this you are either a retard or a zoomer that started gaming in 2015.
>>736913654Look at this faggot he doesn’t shoot through doors as a matter of course.
>>736920137>significantly overhaul the shitty remake to make it not shitty anymore
>>736920249what do you mean? both games are designed differently based on leon's capabilities. those mods significantly changes the combat design of the remake
>>736920274No one agrees with the new video
>>736920274>if I keep saying it, it will become true
>>736920274>People just couldn't accept it when the product being criticised was fresh>people were defending when the game launched>1 year after>2 years after>3 years afterSo... When will this cope argument lose their strength? When CAPCOM re-releases RE4RR in 2040? Or when RE4R comes out on PS6 with 4K textures?
>>736914437This fucking faggot again lol
>>736920385The tide has definitely turned in his favor now.
someone should tell crowbcat that hes still allowed to play the original that might be the problem lol
>>736920284>profit-oriented publicly traded companies only came into existence after 2015
>>736913654>"Just open the fucking door">can't kick the doors down like the original>can't shoot through doors like the original>just walking through a doorway when enemies are behind it instantly just leads to damage/death in both games>zero push/pull neutral game to speak of in remake just leads to endless zigzagging zoombie slop "movement tech" taking potshots at every enemy and praying for a critical, complete with dodge and parry just like TLOUIt might be "fun" but it ain't Resi4
>>736915734TRVTH QVAKE DETECTED
>>736919864You have no personality. You believe wearing your cynicism like an armor is a substitute for being an actual person. You mistake being cynical for having standards when you're just a miserable fuck who associates the original game with a time when simply existing didn't feel like a drag. Because your personality resembles that of a black hole, you do the only thing you really excel at - you suck the enjoyment out of everything that comes into contact with you. Nobody thinks you're cool, smart or thoughtful. You're just a miserable piece of shit choking on his own bile.
>>736915958RE9 is not replayable because it’s a gay moviegame, and Re4Make is the next newest title, thus normies stay there.
>>736920750This, people are already turning against RE9, if the DLC doesn't add more content like exclusive upgrades and a meaty Mercenaries it will be remembered as a nostalgia bait game, meanwhile RE4R will be superior to RE4 and zoomies will still share their crowbats videos or that review of 8 hours saying that "HMMM ACSHUALLY RE4R IS BAD"
>>736919128But you are the person who fails to understand the artistic intention in the hit stun while pretending that "challenge" should only ever exist on a mathematic scale. The game has hitstun, but it artificially enforces the no-stun state. It's garbage, sludged up filth that can be and should be easily removed and replaced with the original hit stun system with large hitbox melee attacksYou are a fucking cattle if you disagree based on a nonsensical "difficulty" obsession. Go bang your head against the wall instead of championing the destruction of game design
>>736911378>Re2 remake is 8 years oldRemake again when?
>>736920857Holy ESL run on sentence shitpost, Batman
>>736920461The number of defenders has actually decreased significantlyThe amount of RE4R fellating was ridiculous when it first came out
Should I buy remake4 gold edition bros
>>736920919The graphics really have aged....they could use a new Claire and Leon model because they're old now...and they could totally add new content and fix the game since it's so old...time has passed and that means that the newer game would be better because the graphics are better. More people would play it than the original on Steam, and that means that it would be more important.
>>736920984lmao what?/v/ threw a shitfit because it wasn't 1:1
>>736920583>still completely ignoring the point that low-quality cashgrabs are much more common than they used to be
>>736912049He means in say 20-30 years when people want to replay re4 the same way people play retro games today, they're probably going to play the original.The question hes asking is, will anyone still play this decades later like they do with the original.
>>736920879>a bloo bloo bloo why is the game challenging? Why do I not have an always accessible iframe kick that makes crowds completely buckle? Why do I have to use different tools in my kit instead of bullet magnetized headshot > iframe crowd control kick EVEY time?
>>736911495>RE2makebasic third person shooter with RE7's inventory system. Had knife durability. Ink ribbons for saves on classic. Blue herbs gave you a damage reduction as well as curing poison.>RE3makeSlapped perfect roll(jill) and parry(carlos) onRE2make's general combat system. Did not have knife durability. No ink ribbons to save your game on any mode. No blue herbs.>RE4makeAdded parrying with a knife. Had knife durability.>7First person shooter. Had blocking.>8First person shooter with RE4's inventory system and the merchant to upgrade your stuff by selling treasures. Added parrying by timing the block.>RequiemI didn't play it because I don't spend more than $20 on a video game.
>>736920696>how dare you dislike something, I HATE negativity, stop making me question whether things are good or not shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up You'rE RUINING MY FUN BY FOCING ME TO THINK I DON'T WANT TO THINK GO AWAY
>>736912646>>736911509Its not the best example of good combat, but zoomers arent complaining about nu god of wars gameplay being outdated, and that has tank controls.
>>736919930>Oblivion>soulLemme guess, this faggot is gonna say Fallout 3 had soul next?
>>736911378>CrowbcatGuess rent was due
I never bothered to play any of the Demakes but it is hilarious how they removed the Spanish screaming and the cutscenes are just dead silent with them occasionally grunting lmao. There is a myriad of objective slop injections but they couldn't even just try and match OG
>old is le hecking epic>new is... le bad!
>>736912760*Gideon voice*You're nothing but an immitation.Remake games are the Zenos to the original Wesker.
Didn't this guy remove his VR IS... LE BAD because he played 1 shooter and it fucking stunk?
>>736921240he made a video glazing the Xbox 360 era, he might as well be a zoomer
>>736921184Not him but youre proving his point
>>736921131It's called enemy design, loony troon. Ganados have hit stun on bullet shots because they are NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE INFECTED WITH PARASITES, NOT UNDEAD ZOMBIES LIKE RE2!Notice how it's the other enemy types, and ones with armor, shields, etc that are resistant to the hit stun in OG? Bosses, powerful enemies? The game has ARTISTIC INTEGRITY in its game design and that is enforced through information that's communicated with every single round spent.You want feedback in RE4R? Shoot them 4 times while waiting for the crosshair bloom to reset and THEN you'll get a kick and THEN maybe you'll get a contextual knife based ground finisher (lifted from RE5/6)
>>736920583Gaming companies were not by and large public companies in the 90’s and 2000’s. Quarterly profits were not the focus at that time, making a stellar product that thus sold well was the objective. Just admit you were born in 2005 and fuck off zoomie
>>736919128>having reliable tools at your disposal is bad, it's better to not know if your headshot is actually going to do anything or be a useless little beesting>also being able to parry and dodge everything instead of having to intelligently navigate threats is great
>>736915105Dmc5 runs on the same engine.
>>736921387It's weird how /v/ contarians will argue that being bad at supposedly casual video games is some kind of artistic integrity
>>736921041>/v/ threw a shitfit because it wasn't 1:1And there were tons of idiots screeching at them in response
>>736918786>gothic architectureVGH....
>>736920696Typical remake defender is so angry that his precious imitation was called soulless and will be called soulless for his entire life while the original masterwork continues to hold dominion over his every want and desire, desperate to pretend that his simulacrum of video game design represents an accomplishment, a victory over the "boomer" of whom he literally stole every single thing he pretends to hold dear.
I've hated this company since they handed Dead Rising to the Canadians.The radio silence on Dragon's Dogma further cemented it. So did their completely senseless money grubbing bullshit during that era.They won me back just a big with some hope for RE7, but I did not understand the people jerking off to RE2RE, and RE8 was literally complete and utter fucking garbage, and it amazes me that anyone defends that gay shit.Dragons Dogma 2 somehow was the same game, same lack of polish, same unfinished product released before it was cooked.Always one step forward, two steps back but it doesn't matter because you FUCKING RETARDS support them anyways.
>>7369151057 blows chunksle funny hick man chasing you with a shovel while you run at 2mph isnt scarythe molded have shit variety and arent scary
>>736921240Probably considering Fallout 3 is going to get the Oblivion remaster treatment soon. He’s going to have to pretend that Fallout 3 not have aim down sights on guns was soul actually
>>736921131>Doom would be a better game if the shotgun just didn't work sometimes
Reminder crowbcat unironically loves the brown and bloom era
>>736921518>Canadians>Ubisoft tooWas it Chinese?
STOOOOOOOOOOOOP INSULTING THIS CORPORATE CYNICAL PRODUCT CREATED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING EASY MONEY BY EXPLOITING NOSTALGIA OF 30+ YEAR OLDS! THE GAME IS EPIC! YOU ARE JUST BLINDED BY NOSTALGIA! ENJOYING THINGS THAT REHASH THE SAME SHIT FROM THE PAST IS BASED! REMAKE IS BETTER THEN THEY ORIGINAL! WAY BETTER! OLD BAD! NEW GOOD! OLD WORSE! NEW BETTER! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! OLD BAD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD! NEW GOOD!
>>736921586reminder crowbcat fellates far cry 2 simply because of fire effects ignoring the actual gameplay
>>736911509Skill issue. RE4 still has some of the best, if not the best 3rd person shooter combat gameplay.
>>736921561>going to have to pretend that Fallout 3 not have aim down sights on guns was soul>not have aim down sights on guns was soul>implyingI HATE ZOOMBIE TOURIST ESL SPICS AND INDIANS WITH A BURNING FURY!
>>736921653Fire effects look sick
>>736921645>Things nobody has ever said
Hate the remake for 2 years mostly because of no hitstun, the shooting in the remake is not fun objectively.V fags shit on me because the le original is easier like who caresNow I have to deal with getting called a crowbar watcher here for my same opinionTiring
>>736921730okits still a shit game
>>736921645yes
>>736921696RE4 og is the easier game by a mile and 90% of RE4make gameplay criticisms is shitters whining that they can't just iframe their way through the entire game like the optimal path thru the original village siege is to just jump over the fence in front of the shotgun house while spamming grenades at your feet because Leon is invincible when he's doing ANYTHING in the og
>>736921131>Why do I have to use different tools in my kitWaiting and baiting for a perfect parry to i-frame kick them is fucking boring like every other game that wants you to use the counter system. People that mainly used royalguard in DMC3 are psychopaths.General combat of shooting Spaniards in the head/leg didn't change at all with the remake other than that you maybe shoot 2~4 times instead of once.In fact, little changed with how you approach combat in the remake other than that you use the knife as a melee weapon less often and that enemy hit reactions would have been objectively fucking dogshit compared to the original if it weren't for them adding dismemberment to slightly balance it out.
>>736921696Max Payne did TPS better in 2001
>>736921382The point where he projected hardcore onto me because I have a negative opinion about a game on 4chan and he can't handle it?But him losing his shit over that negative opinion says nothing about his mental state, okay
Happy to the Remake winning and OG troons losing. All is normal in the world.
>>736921772If you need to knock over a ganado right NOW or you need to thin a crowd, use your shotgun or TMP. RE4og is just bullet magnetized headshot > iframe kick for the ENTIRE game, until you unlock the semi auto sniper exclusive and then you just point and delete everything.
>>736919930>his channel died because I am no longer checking it
>>736921645KEK. Way too accurate.
>>736917920This you?
>>736921645Imagine 90% of your media is just rehash shit in a worse form from 20-40 years ago.I think the only fully new thing I can think of that is for gen alpha in circulation is amazing digital circus and that's sad
>>736921518a youtuber made a video on it so the /v/bots are programmed to be as contrarian as possible. i havent played an RE game since 6
>>736921713I think having iron sights in an FPS game like fallout is good actually
>>736921812>him losing his shitNice exaggeration, someone posting a reply doesn't mean they are "losing their shit"
>>736921303New isn't bad because it's new. New is bad because faggots are at the helm, they have shit ideas and shit philosophies, and they worship new like a god while rejecting everything old, both good and bad
>>736921767>RE4 og is the easier game by a mileBecause its mechanics are more consistent.
>>736921036No, the gold edition content is on a dlc code. The disc is just the base game.
>>736921645Broccoli remake troony frauds and third worlders swear up and down that the game that stole every single element while destroying the artistic integrity is a superior work to the original work that pioneered the elements because of the NEW elements that were all just stolen from other games.>>736921767>LIKE....>THRU>OPTIMALBroccoli head ass Cawadoody baby ass nigga is mad corny, trying to pretend that masterful creations that influenced the industry forever are somehow replaceable/consumable. Go back to playing The New Thing
>>736921497>you think X mechanic isn't a good choice?>GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUDIt was inevitable the moment he cornered you, but it's still disappointing
>the new game is le harder because your guns are rng and leon controls like shitFascinating, the original game is harder if I unplug the controller. Doesn't really make it better
>>736918497this
>>736915734thats just the modern """fandom""" in a nutshelleveryone acts like the biggest fan on earth on the week its released because everyone talks about it and one week later the jump into the next big thingnot even talking about resi games or gaming but in general you have these posers everywhere nowremember re9? they sure as fuck dont
>>736921992Sauce for that video? That's funny.
>>736911378Why do thirdies who don't play games think their opinions on games they don't pkay matter? Especially when they're dumb enough to insinuate that devs don't reuse assets between games? Have any of you monkeys actually played RE1-3.
>>736922069I'm 34 years old and probably started playing RE games before you did, I'm just a semi-well adjusted adult who makes ends meet and has a gf so I don't argue with zoomer ghosts while defending the purity of my favorite video game as a child to make up for the lack of fulfillment in my own life lol
>>736918375Other Anon is seething but this is true. 1997 is still part of the zoomer generation. Rachet and clank 1 was my first shooter
>>736911509Don't tell the retarded zoomers that 4R added enemies getting hit by bear traps, which actually makes a meaningful difference during gameplay, or that enemies have more friendly fire.
>>736921767>RE4 og is the easier game by a mileTell me, is it possible for a harder game to also be worse? Or for an easier game to be better?Or is difficulty the ONLY thing that matters?ALL design decisions are good if the game is difficult? ALL design decisions are bad if the game is easy?
This dude has massive tism, imagine doubling down because your ego can’t handle the fact you faced backlash for once in your life
>>736921038Genuinely re2remake does need a remake.Impliment scenario BImpliment the cut differences where A scenario was against Birkin and B was against Mr XUpdate the models (Sherrys is the worst)Add the moth back in.Make the aligator a real boss fight.Etc, etc.
>>736922023>it's an FPS therefore it has to XYZI swear to god, artistic intentionality is completely fucking lost on you children who can't comprehend WHY a video game might have design decisions that are unique and aren't completely formulaic or lifted from cawadoodyNewer Halo games all had typical ADS, and they were all fucking garbage. Adding more homogenous designs does not improve on the intended player experience of a game when it's not intended to be there.
>>736917960Mauler is clinically retarded
>>7369222604R is better because the difficulty is a result of more complex mechanics and interactions with more variety in offense and options for defense or evasion. Enjoy making your next shitpost pretending that mechanically complex games aren't better.
>>736922026Responding with>You're just a miserable piece of shit choking on his own bile.is losing your shit.
>>736917886Take your own advice
>>736922282>Comparing a console fps to pc
>>736922196>zero argument or on topic relevance regarding the video game Resident Evil 4 nor it's remake or artistic merit as works that cannot be simply remade without losing fundamental concepts>off topic seethe "lol ur gay"Yep, it's a zoombie larp.
>>736916463RE2R = a good gameRE3R = bad game with good gameplayRE7 = a good gameRE8 = a good gameRE4R = introduction to parryslop, beginning of the endRequiem = 100% parryslop, shitty game
Re4make proves that every was right, videogames are not art if they are this easily replaceable. I can't wait for it to get another remake in 15 years and people pretend that re4make was actually bad the whole time
>>736922447Expect you can still pay the original games???????????????
>>736922361Mechanical complexity can be good, but not when it plays like shit, makes your guns peashooters, and gives you a godlike parry that trivializes everythingMechanically simple isn't always bad, what matters is how the mechanics flow together.
>>736911509>I changed my entire opinion because of one mechanic I didnt even notice once and a retarded overly long video essayYeah. Pretty based, huh?
>>736922416>Fallout 3 wasn't a console gameOh lord have mercy on your soul
>>736922442Re4 didnt need a remake.Re4 remake also guarenteed that we're getting a 5 and 6 remake too.So we're gonna be playing re6 again in afew years.
>>736922361They aren't. What matters is if the game is fun.
>>736921645Based, I can't stand these fucking zoomers, wish I could all wipe them off this planet.
>>736922485Having to even type in 2005 just to look up actual re4 is enough to make me wish videogames crashed and stop being made after at most the 7th gen
>>736922196>I'm too cool to talk about video games on a video game board>Yet, I'm still posting here to fling shit for some reason
>>736922426>accusing others of not being able to stay on topic while calling the entirety of his opposition zoomers and tranniesthe lack of self-awareness here is hilarious
>>736922547That's just retarded naming conventions >original game 1>original game 2>3 etc etc>SUDDENLY REBOOT [insert name here]>Now all searches about the reboot name
>>736922442RE4 remake's parry is powerful but it's not the end-all-be-all, sitting around waiting to parry is not efficient RE9 on insanity is sitting around waiting to parry enemies or knocking them over with a shotgun because that's how you trigger hatchet contextual kills and that's the ONLY way to play the game, nothing else works
>>736922378I have a consistent opinion that I formed myself, and I don't give the slightest shit about what review scores say.So this was a pretty weak "no u", I have to say.
>>736922196But you're still here
>>736918454>comparison>hyper autistic 10 year old fan remaster>”s-see!”
>>736922447>if they are this easily replaceableThey aren't, the corpos just want them to be. That's why almost everything new is devoid of artistic merit, and they're working hard to (attempt to) replace everything that came before. It's supposed to be nothing more than a treadmill of endless consumption.
>>736921645>>736922007I feel so bad for Zoomers. We millennials were living through the golden age of video games back when new, revolutionary, artistic titles made by talented and creative developers were coming out every single year, and the industry put focus on constant experimentation, creativity, and artistic freedom. Zoomers are forced to live in this sad, corporate, creatively dead era where incompetent, creatively dead developers not only make boring, creatively bankrupt games that rehash the same safe, boring formula over and over, but also rehash shit from 20+ years ago
>>736922629It's being replaced. You have to go out of your way to even look up info on old games. I have no idea why you're being obtuse, a kid could easily be fooled into thinking resident evil 2 is the actual original game when it's the re2make.Video games are toys, I never want to hear the argument that they are art if this is how they are treated.
>>736922589I'm insulting you because I don't respect anyone who even attempts to pretend that the remake is anything but a cash grab. That's by definition exactly what it is. It's not a creative endeavor. It doesn't reimagine and expand the original game in a meaningful way. It's an asset flip cash grab that stole from legendary blueprints.I don't care about your perceived difficulty due to inconsistent mechanic application or how much you don't like that you can't move and shoot at the same time because it makes you feel tense, and I don't care about how many people are currently playing what game.Resident Evil 4 is a timeless masterwork in horror action. The remake is just a soulless product. You may not like it, but you'll learn to accept it.
>>736917689>most accessible way to play it in 2026>d-d-doesn’t count, means nothing
>>736922802It sounds like you started from a preconceived framework of supposed moral superiority for refusing to play le DEMAKES xDDD and then shaming your opposition as being soulless cretins or whatever I don't think you were ever interested in engaging with the game in good faith whatsoever, I think you knew you hated it from the second it was announced
>>736922772>Zoomers are forced to live in this sad, corporate, creatively dead era where incompetent, creatively dead developers not only make boring, creatively bankrupt games that rehash the same safe, boring formula over and over, but also rehash shit from 20+ years agoIt's little wonder they defend it so hard. They have nothing worth defending, but the fighting spirit still shines though. I actually admire that, even if they're constantly wrong and obnoxious to deal with.
>>736922491>plays like shit,It doesn't. You getting genuinely shit at games and being unable to aim or duck a grab doesn't mean it plays bad.>parry that trivializes everythingThe argument is done now because it's clear you don't know anything about the game. Parries are overpowered in 9, but they're absolutely not in 4R. You don't get to argue about games you don't play and pretend your opinion matters.>>736922542Mechanics make games fun.
>>736922795>A kid could easily be convinced re2r is the original.No, because 5 and 6 came out before it and nobody is stupid enough to think resident evils release order is 1, 5, 6, 7, 2, 3, 8, 4, 9.Now once re 5 and 6 are remade this might start happening but people would still think its weird that its1, 7, 2, 3, 8, 5, 9Once they remake 7, 8 and 9 however yes people will genuinely believe this.
>>736922802>I don't care about gameplayThat's because you don't play games.
>>736922662You post like you're fresh off the reddit boat. You claim that you're consistent in your beliefs but wait for some eceleb faggot makes a video to spout them. You're literally no better than the other anon.
The video lost me when he started complaining that being able to parry the chainsaw was bad
>>736922884I actually played the remake ya faggy cunt. I enjoyed it for what it was, it's a fun little game that remixes RE4.But it's not Resident Evil 4, and I would never pretend otherwise. It's not a seminal masterwork. It's nothing, NOTHING but a cash grab on brand recognition. They copied from legendary blueprints and literally deleted at least half of the authentic charm and replaced it with generic grimdark sludge.This is not an impressive work. It's yet another fucking remake.
I remember seeing the chainsaw parry in the gameplay reveal and thought it was so fucking stupid and ruined the entire point of the chainsaw to begin with. Came to /v/ and saw majority of you baseding about it. Remake I literally don't even care if the chainsaw is near me unlike the original. Why would I? I can parry easily. You niggas are no better than redditors
>>736911378the one good point he did was showing all the people claiming this game was better than the original while simultaneously showing how either they never played or cared about the og in the first placeit just shows remake audience is cattle
>>736915734It came before the remake you retarded fuck, nobody cares about unc game
>>736922860Both versions are playable on the current gen systems.If next gen has backwards compatibility then both versions will be playable on next gen systems, if it doesnt then neither version will.
>>736922795You think it's some grand conspiracy but this is how things have always been. The new thing will replace the old thing searches unless you look up old thing . It's been going on this since the fucking 90s dude There's isn't a single person in the world will look the remake and think "RE2 always looked like this" especially when the store advertisement CALLS it a remake
>>736922772
>>736922901Remakes have always existed lmao, god you’re retarded. Pop culture has always “looped”
>>736923075>nobody cares about unc gameIf you didnt care about the game you never would have cared for a remake either.
>>736922416People on /v/ don't even try to come up with believable bait anymore, they just look at you like this.
>>736917593People shit on the xbox video, and I have never played even half of those games but it's a grim reminder that we used to have new games with lasting impact come out nonstop.Now we are lucky if we get more than 1 game per year that will be remembered in 5 years.
I'm glad he has the Leon quiping section, he has never quiped until re4make and 9 suddenly made him spiderman and it was so fucking cringe but people have been gasliting that he has always been like that for some reason. Theirs not even a single line in the script that compares to a cutscene line in the original lmao
>>736923159Newsflah, the uncremake is shit too. All the zoomers moved on. RE9 is what zoomers crave.
>>736923051And in the original Dr. Salvador falls over if you sneeze on him. A shotgun pellet anywhere in his hitbox knocks him over and you can keep him pinned there forever. Yes you can parry the chainsaw in the remake but knife is not an infinite resource, and you can't parry if you're grabbed, facing away from him, and Dr. Salvador will actually chase you down instead of slowly jogging towards you.
>>736923101>He thinks there isnt some grand conspiracyGoogle Jeffery Epstein.
>>736922772They cannot and will not even attempt to reply to you because they simply don't understand their own folly, crusading against the past of their own "hobby"It would be much easier for them to just admit "yeah, those PS2 games are really awesome and important, and that's the reason why the new remake was so good, because it borrowed its ideas from the past, maybe there's a lesson there that I could borrow for myself"
Everytime this thread is made, I buy another copy of RE4 Remake.
>>736923051Chainsaw can still break your knife and kill you instantly if you're not careful.
>>736923228I don't care about the difficulty. It's about the mood and feeling, what don't you understand about that? I feel nothing with the new chainsaw, it's just parry slop
>>736923197Nigger, the bingo line doesn’t exist to you?
>>736923269Hi sis
>>736923278If all you care about muh feeling don't try to argue in a thread about fact
>>736922930>occasionally an enemy does something that requires you to press circle instead of L1, so that completely changes the fact that you can just negate or jankdodge a fuckton of enemy attacks instead of having to carefully manage your positioning>but the guns are weaker and leon controls like garbage, so I'm going to masturbate over how much "harder" the game is
>>736923302The modern one? The new va doesn't have the same gusto Comes across as desperate and cringe compared to the last go around of a goofy ass line someone thought was actually cool
>>736923278the mood and feeling is affected by the difficulty, retard. Do you think the gameplay just exists in a vacuum separate from t he atmosphere?
>>736922535>5They already said that 5 remake never ever, for obvious reason. I'm happy about that. The only RE main games that needs one are Code Veronica and 0 (just the item box mod really)
>>736923197Leon's been a quip asshole since OG4>B-BUT THE LINES ARN'T FUNNYYeah that's a modern writing problem. Not necessarily leon's character changing it would be as bad spider-man not cracking jokes 90 percent of the time even though that's always been a part of him
>>736923324Factual the guns in remake don't work and the new chainsaw enemy is lame as fuck because the tension of an instant kill is gone in place of janky ass grab lunges or just press the one button get out of jail parry button
>>736923342>negate or jankdodge a fuckton of enemy attacks instead of having to carefully manage your positioningPost game time and achievements.
>>736923197he did a couple in re4 og but it was all because of the faggot translators who translated the jap script for the voice actinglook at RE degeneration capcom obviously didnt care about the re4 depiction because he was serious in that
>>736923269I work for capcom, im going to keep making these threads, because we sell both versions lolThanks for the money.
>>736922901because for them the remake is the best game ever made and they have to defend itno matter what you say or do you wont convince them to emulate and try the original (because they are also tech illiterate but thats another point) for them the remake is all they know, its basically the baby duck syndrome
The fact that video game remakes not only exist but also sell proves that people don't view video games as art. They view video games as toys, as nothing else.
>>736923448>Factual the guns in remake don't workThey work better than the OG where you literally only need two gun and the rest of the game basically becomes a shooting gallery even on professional
>>736923425No quipping is not the same as cutscenesLeon doesn't fucking talk in gameplay of the original re4. his only dialogue is a few lines that a Japanese man thought a cool American FBI guy might say If you play the remake he never shuts up to give out marvel tier quotes 24/7 with the cutscenes actually trying to be serious mellow drama
>>736923448>the tension is gone because of a single defense move you can trigger one time>but the original with a salvador you could infinitely stagger was more tensePeople who argue about games they don't play are subhuman.
>>736921896If you're going to minmax like a fucking joyless moron that hard why even bother with a pistol. Swipe them in the face with a knife for the kicks.All you're proving is that the remake did not add fucking anything regarding tools because the shotgun and tmp still do the same shit they did in the original.
>>736923379It’s a quip, you said he doesn’t do it at all, as in “ever” makes jokes. You lied, I wasn’t talking about “quality”, dipshit
>>736923415>They already said.A jewish games journalist isnt capcom.Now it probably will be toned down completely and censored. But we are getting re5 and re6 remake. Its happening, its guarenteed.I'll see you back here in a couple of years when its announced.
>>736923025>You claim that you're consistent in your beliefs but wait for some eceleb faggot makes a video to spout them.Oh good, more projection. Since that's a ridiculous shot in the dark, I'm going to assume I hit a nerve and that makes you feel threatened.
>>736923493wierd how it's exclusive to video games in general. almost all movie and book remakes are seen as unnecessary and laughable. video games are the only medium where people view everything made 5+ years ago as outdated shit that needs to be replaced by a new shiny versions
>>736923401Do you think having a get out of jail free card on you at almost all times helps or harms the tension created by the enemy encountersDo you think having a fully controllable camera to see 360 degrees around you basically t all times helps or harms the tension created by the enemy encountersDo you think objectively, intrinsically worse art direction and intentionality helps or harms the tension created by the atmosphere
>>736923576The TMP is the best weapon in the original, retard, because a max capacity TMP gives you 250 bullet magnetized iframe stuns which trivializes the entire game. You don't even know anything about the game you're defending
>>736923543And what's worse is people expect me to clap and "go wow Leon nice one" when he says "got a package for you" for the 30th time because Its Leon but if it was the forspoken girl and her quips which are th exact same quality Now it's cringeRe9 Leon was embarressing and you nigger are sheep clapping at recognizable character instead of content
>>736923493Most art is products.Even old paintings were comissioned.
>>736923543If Mikami could make leon talk in normal gameplay he could. At the end of the day your REAL problem is that modern games don't have separate cutscenes and "gameplay" anymore. It's the same issue modern sequels like ratchet and clank have where they don't be silent and talk during gameplay when in the PS2 era they had actual cutscenes segments where they talk
>>736923671You've gone full retard. OG 4 with the JD mod, increased FoV and RE5 style B mouse controls looks the best and has the best atmosphere. You're arguing for the sake of it now like a complete moron.
>>736923659>all movie and book remakes are seen as unnecessary and laughable.Movies have been remade and reboot older than games, horror movies have more remakes and reboots than most video game series do in a lifetime.Books go through revisions all the time. Unless you're looking the original 1th edition
>>736923415>This game is racist because you play as a big white guy killing black people>No, I don't care that said big white guy you are playing as is an established character from the previous games, and I don't care that all the black people you kill are hostile zombies who want to kill you, and I especially don't care that the game takes place in Africa, a continent where 99% of people are black>This game is racist because there's a level with black enemies that dress in grass skirts, tribal masks, and fight using spears>No, don't care that hundreds of irl African tribes exist to this day, and enemies in the game were based on said irl tribe people>This game is racist because the second protagonist is a sexualized black woman who looks Japanese>No, I don't care that she was modeled after a real black model from Australiaretarded jurnos
>>736923142Why are you delusional faggots so determined to pretend nothing has changed?The amount of remakes and the lack of innovation is unpredecented. If you're going to shove your head in the sand, keep it there permanently and stop removing it just to spout retarded shit
I don't care if the original is easier, literally nobody argued otherwise. I don't really think re4 should be a super hard challenge to begin with desu. It's just a fun arcade shooter with a fun storyNot a assload of annoyance because you rolled bad on the rng table and your pistol decided to not work before a ganada super lunges that magnetize to you for the 80th time
>>736923736Nah its more so an inversion of the originalsSerious gameplayWhacky cutscenesNow its Whacky gameplaySerious cutscenes.Which would be fine in its own game but its the opposite of the original game
>>736923197>I'm glad he has the Leon quiping sectionI didn't mind some of the quipping, but holy shit do they overdo it in some parts
>>736923923>The amount of remakes and the lack of innovation is unpredecented.So you agree that the 90s lacked innovation because that's where this all started smart guy
>>736917681just because someone or something set a trend or a chain of events that end up badly doesn't retroactively make the first thing bad.Spider-Man started going to shit as a character because new writters, fans and the company itself started to make new spider-man media inspired on the Raimi tobey Spider-Man. the shitty spider-men we have nowdays are a byproduct of Raimi movies success.and that still doesn'tn make raimi movies bad
>>736923856>it's not racist because I, a right-wing shithead who considers blacks inferior, refuses to consider it racist wow you sure showed them
>>736919930just cause you didnt see his videos doesnt mean he died
>>736923856for me, it's powersuit Sheva
>>736924038go back and learn to read
>>736923687meant gun when I said pistol but the point still stands. You are a fucking minmaxing moron; the type that plagues any video game thread with "hurr durr I just use PKP, Stinger, Obliterate, Drunken twist, tranq gun from start to finish. Entire rest of the game is invalid."
>>736923925difficulty implies qualityeasy games arent worth playing which is why so many women dislike the direction resident evil took starting with 4
>>736924038>Game is literally about fighting the white man from exploiting Africans>This is racist actually
>>736911509You don't know what you're missing until you have it
>>736923452Lmao, thanks for the concession
>>736923856>that scene where the dude grabs Sheva's assbros...
>>736924028That's not what he said. He said theirs very clearly more and a bigger push than ever now to replace original work. Which is trueThe 90s had a few remakes but you're just coping if you argue it's not worse nowFucking retards can't even read and comprehend incredibly easy posts but what to contribute to the discussion
>>736923856yes
>>736923790I asked you specific questions about the remake and you did not reply to any of themI agree that the original with increased FOV and other improvements is the superior and definitive experience of Resident Evil 4
>>736924091No it doesn't, tons of le epic difficulty slop has came out in the last decade since souls 1. If anything a fucked difficulty balance proves the opposite that it's low quality garbage. And the original game is plenty hard enough for the average gamer. The average person did not single shot the tmp and iframe abuse, look up any fucking playthrough ever
>>736924118>He said theirs very clearly more and a bigger push than ever now to replace original work.That's always been that way retard. I can't tell you how many devs will just take down the original game they made because they're ashamed of it and want people to play the new shitter slop.>a few remakesLmao
>>736923493Corpos are soulless abominations who not only don't care about art, they are actively hostile to it. We know this.People are consumerist cattle. We know this too.
>>736924038Oh my fucking god 4make ZOOMBIES ARE PURE CANCER!THEY WILL CLAIM RE5 REMAKE THAT CENSORS THE GAME WILL BE "SUPERIOR" BECAUSE YOU CAN MOVE WHILE SHOOTING LOL!
>>736923589They're too much cucked to risk another controversy or to remind people of the old one.
Context: OG4 has been one of my favorite and most replayed games since it came out.I put off playing RE4R for a couple years because I was in the camp believing there was no point remaking it and those early atmosphere comparisons put me off.About remakes/remasters in general, it's mostly a shitty trend where a greedy publisher assign a lesser dev studio to only remake popular games for cashgrab. Then internet fandom goes full retard because on one side you have normie that refuse to play the originals and just fomo into the latest thing, but on the other side you also get turbo autists with nostalgic attachment who are only able to compare details and complain about any difference. A good remake should be able to take liberties to become its own thing, and it should be a complementary alternative to the original, not trying to erase/replace it.Finally played RE4R this year and loved what they did the gameplay. Very thoughtful and satisfying redesign. There are so many layers to it and it's super obvious that Anpo's team put a lot of soul, effort and thinking into it besides just "copy TLoU".Also made me realize I had big nostalgia bias over OG4. It did age. Simpler difficulty is so much more blatant to me now.Watched his video. Completely agree that the audiovisual direction is lacking compared to OG4.But there's basically nothing meaningful about the gameplay besides complaining it's different. Or that it's not unique like the original, derivative of TLoU, which in itself, is an artistic complaint but not a gameplay quality complaint, and doesn't go into how it still plays very different from TLoU besides superficial influence. RE1 is a complete ripoff of AITD1 and no RE fanboy bats an eye.Or dishonestly not addressing all the meaningful, thoughtful changes in RE4R. When there are so many interesting things to explore when comparing both. 2 cakes, etc.What's obvious when reading anti-RE4R arguments, they're often full of dishonesty and contradictions.
>>736923687>magnetizedDo you even know what this word means?
>>736924217>I NEED to be able to look up Ashley's skirt and for Luis to sexually harass her or else it's le DEMAKE!!!30+ year old man acting like this btw
>>736924028>So you agree that the 90s lacked innovation because that's where this all started smart guyNo I don't, dishonest faggot.
>>736924323You can deny it all you want but its coming.Like I said theyre probably gonna censor it, however it will release, zero doubt about it.
>>736924425>DishonestIf you don't face reality than I think the dishonest one is (you)
>>736923493Something that manifests elements of the human condition through the expression of physical media ie "works" are indeed considered to be "art" whenever their excellence is able to capture imaginations and emotions. Creations born from imaginations that are sold as products to experience emotions can always be considered an artistic work. It doesn't matter if it's for profit or made for free.The remake is objectively worse art, but it's more popular "art". Bad art is still art.
>>736924038How does it feel to see racism become more popular by the day, even among normies and moderates?
>>736911378>the audio partI feel vindicated since I just turned the dynamic range down to narrow playing RE9 the other day because the default was so ridiculous. I had already changed the audio device setting to headphones so you can't even excuse it as being intended for surround sound.
>>736924194>he still can't see a difference between the 90s and the 2020sThere's no hope for this one
Remake is slop and you fags deserve it after praising the last few
>>736924567It's the same shit but this time you have cancer social media emphases it. Cope harder because there's no hope for any of you retards who never saw the writing on the wall decades ago
>>736924489>I can only think in terms of "ON" and "OFF". Anything more complex than that is completely beyond my pea-sized brain
>>736924696>Greentext strawmanConcession accepted.
>>736924339>But there's basically nothing meaningful about the gameplay besides complaining it's differentThats the biggest thing for me. I liked when games played differently from one another, when playing one game with a gun wasnt the exact same as playing a different game with a gun.Its not a bad game gameplay wise but its just the same as everything else.I prefer the writing in the original but thats hit or miss depending if you want something that takes itself less seriously or not.
>>736924634>thing existed decades ago>thing is much worse todayDo you get it now?
>>736923142>it's not happening>it's happening but it's not bad>it's actually always been happening and you're just blinded by nostalgia goyim I mean "unc"
>>736924764>Thing has always been bad>But now because my favorite youtuber said it's bad means I am smartDo you?
>>736924515Israel lostHitlers spirit is winning.
>>736924813You're being dense on purpose at this point.As much as I'm tempted to think you're a retard, now I think you know exactly what I'm talking about and you're just being a dishonest cunt about it
>>736924757The writing in the original is better because it has the same tone. A glowie action star giving one liners to villains.Remake is schizo nonsense that wants to pretend Leon has PTSD in cutscenes sandwiches in between him saying quips to nobody in particular like a maniac
>>736924886No because you're the dishonest one who refuses to see the fucking truth right in front of him. You're not just retarded. You're a full blown idiot.
>>736924786If he pretends it was always this bad, he gets to drag RE4 down to RE4R's level and stubbornly insist that the latter isn't soulless slop.I say "pretend" because he knows the truth, he just refuses to concede it because that would mean the nostalgiafags were right about something.
>>736923543>Original>Leon makes funny quips in the cutscene>Remake>Leon makes funny quips during gameplay and cutscene>Noooooooooo you can't do that!!! You ruined the game!!!God these people are insufferable like holy shit the nitpick crowbfag picked felt like a kid's tantrum
>>736925102RE4 IS slop. It killed the series. It's the OG slop game as far as RE is concerned. That's why all this malding over the remake is funny as shit.
Crowbcat is like that obxnouis reddit faggot who's technically right but he comes off as a dishonest cunt so much that you argue just because seeing him being a smug asshole is infuriating
>>736925160Original was a couple funny lines that were sincere because it really was written by a Japanese man just making a quick script in 3 days of an action hero and what he thought one would sayRemake is trying to be a serious laughable PTSD story with the same goofy ass plot but it wasn't written in 3 days and in gameplay he now doesn't shut the fuck up quipping nonstop like every other modern game THAT EVERYONE CALLS CRINGE BTW but now that it's Leon I guess we're supposed to go "erm theirs no difference" because modern writers are desperately trying to capture the same lighting in the bottle but now with months of time and focus groups to review everything a dozen times
>>736924957I have seen "the writing on the wall" over the last few decades retard. I've seen the gradual decline. A decline, by it's VERY NATURE, means that things are WORSE NOW than they were then. It is OBVIOUS that things are worse now than they were then and no matter how determined you are to tell yourself that your tepid, midwit IQ is the highest in the room, saying "lol but what about the 90s" is not a clever or unique insight..
>>736925352You're still missing the point. And you call me the midwit. Take a history lesson before you reply back to me zoomer.
>>736925259>DishonestBy what? Just posting proof? People went on a cancel culture parade over his last re4 video lying about audio levels to slander him lmao
>>736925189RE4 did kill the series. It was also an amazing game. You're too much of an idiot to understand this because you can only think in black and white terms.
>>736925447No. RE4 is a bad game. It should have never been called resident evil.
>>736925419The point is that you're a sore loser and you're desperately clinging to the fiction that you ever had something worth saying.
>>736925428Nobody canceled him lmao. He's the one who couldn't take even the slightly bit of heat and slinked away for months. Even changed the title of the video because he was butthurt. He's still butthurt making a video THREE YEARS later when everyone has moved on now
>>736925515I'm not the one being so much of a sore loser that I have to get in the last word no matter what.
>>736925348>it really was written by a Japanese man just making a quick script in 3 days of an action hero and what he thought one would sayincorrectit was a translator adding le spice to the dialogue like they always do
>>736924149>I asked you specific questions about the remakeI wasn't the other anon you were arguing with. I'm just calling you an idiot for decrying camera control when then makes the original 4 play and look best.
>>736925557Yes they did but whatever you're braindead so I'm not surprised you don't have the ability to retain memories
>>736925481>it's a good game>but it's not a good X gameI think this about a lot of games, but RE4 isn't one of them. It was a great game and a great Resident Evil game. It would have been a fantastic one-off entry, or a blueprint for mechanics and ideas to intelligently merge into the broader series.Unfortunately Capcom are retards, so they went all in on abandoning RE's identity to copy it and escalate it, without ever understanding what made it work.Resident Evil has been on a steep decline ever since.RE4, however, is a masterpiece.
>>736925597>he says, trying to get the last word no matter what
>>736925781Who doxxed him? Who called his job? Who sued him for defamation? Nigga everyone just clowned on him for being a retard. That's not what being canceled means. He's the one who was being a little bitch and ran away.
>>736925698>it was a translator adding le spice to the dialogue like they always doLike previous RE games, RE4 had English voices from the start, so the script was as intended by the developers. A translator might have had input, but the developers gave it the green light.
>>736925840Yes.
>>736925880Buddy I don't know how you breathe being this braindead. It's pretty impressive
>>736925972Concession accepted crow. See you in 2029 when you make another RE4make BAD video.
>>736925898the developers also thought re1 s voice acting sounded fine and instructed them to talk that wayAGAIN leon is completely different in degeneration and in darkside chronicles he doesnt quip at all outside of calling mr.x trenchiebut babby soilennials creamed themselves to le right hand comes off enough that hes just capcoms deadpool now
>>736926006They really should put parental controls on machines for the mentally disabled
>>736926010>the developers also thought re1 s voice acting sounded fine and instructed them to talk that wayAnd the voices are fondly remembered 30 years later.>AGAIN leon is completely different in degeneration and in darkside chroniclesSideslop movie and sideslop game
>>736914824Movement in games isn't supposed to "feel snappy", it's supposed to have weight.
Imagine if this video makes him lose another 2/3 of his audience kek
>>736926123leon wasnt a quip machine in 6 either honey but im sure thats actionslop so it doesnt count either yea? even though all RE games are basically action
>>736926090Like you.
>>736926167>Movement in games isn't supposed to "feel snappy", it's supposed to have weight.URRRRGH HOLD ON ASHLEY I'M COMING>slithers and oozes and stumbles around a corner>tries to pull gun out, it's swaying all over the place, takes 5 seconds to aim carefully>still missesUUERERGHGGH OH NO ASHLEY>bleeds and ulcerates and turns into a mass of slime like Birkin's final form in RE2>squelch>slurp>staggerURURGGH MY MOVEMENT IS WEIGHTY
>>736926167>Oh you liked how 3d games felt good to play for 20 years >Well now they play like shit but don't worry it's better because uh realism or something see I'm a fat piece of shit and I also struggle to stop quickly Bro who fucking struggles to stop as much as the average video game protag now. It's so exaggerated
>>736917393Dumb comparison
>>736923493People trying to treat every game like high end art is what lead us to movie game nonsense. Sometimes a toy is just a fucking toy. Yeah there'll be exceptions but video games should always be fucking toys.
>>736926167There's a big difference between having weight and moving so slow a sloth could move faster RE character don't even fucking run like they used to
>>736926261>leon wasnt a quip machine in 6 either honey but im sure thats actionslop so it doesnt count either yea?No, it doesn'tAll plot and characterization after Capcom went full retard (post RE4) isn't worth considering>honeyd'aww, thank you dear
People are so stupid now they think humans move like balls or something. Leon should be able to control how many steps he takes like wtf lol
>>736926335>Bro who fucking struggles to stop as much as the average video game protag now. It's so exaggeratedIt might be """realistic""" but it feels dumb as fuck when you don't have all the compensatory movement options of a normal personChasing such realism in video games is retarded. They're supposed to be a little bit abstracted. They're supposed to actually be responsive