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Why didn't the covenant just invite humanity into the death cult instead of being such assholes?
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>>736916032
would humanity have joined the covenant
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>>736916685
As a whole? Probably not but entire planets would convert.
Humanity has worshipped stupider shit
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The prophets knew from the beginning that the humans were the reclaimers and tried to bury that fact and kill them instead
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>>736916032
The Elites actually did briefly advocate for Human inclusion into the Covenant, but the Prophets nixxed it. It was pretty much immediately known to the Prophets that Forerunner technology reacted to Humans in ways that they simply did not with the Covenant races. The 'Oracle' Monitor that they kept on High Charity called the Humans 'Reclaimers', which basically took a big fat shit on the Covenant's entire shtick as the inheritors of the Forerunner legacy and their Great Journey.
If this information got out, that'd be the end of the Covenant and the Prophets' hold over it. So, they went to war instead, aiming to wipe out every single Human (save for maybe a few to activate Foreunner shit with) so that their theocratic rule remained unchallenged.
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The covenant hates humanity because they are actually the descendents of the forerunners and that completely dismantles the narrative of the prophets

Imagine being fake jesus and then real jesus turns up, you'd probably try to kill him ASAP
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>>736917007
wow, it's like that thing that happened.
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>>736916032
Our cocks were too big and compatible with elite women
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>>736916032
Didn't you read the novels anon? Are you a fake fan?
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>>736917412
Most Sangheili probably have huge dicks, and their human would have pussies made for the larger, more impressive Sangheili size.
I'm afraid it would be a hotdog in a hallway situation.
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>>736916032
>Why didn't the covenant just invite humanity into the death cult instead of being such assholes?
Because humans are forerunners, the literal gods the Covenant worships. The Prophets aren't interested in losing all their power to literal nobodies. So they intend on destroying their god out of a petty power hungry motivation.
Seems a little familiar to the jews now that I think about it.
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>>736916032
The San'Shyuum who would become the High Prophets of the Halo games era woke Mendicant Bias on High Charity (during the events of first contact with humans on Harvest). They got told that their religion was horseshit and that he was going to go find the real Reclaimers (humans). The prophets recognized that this truth would cause a revolution that would break the Covenant Empire, so they prevented the key ship from leaving High Charity. They overthrew the previous High Prophets which they had already been plotting to do, started a new age, and called for total human death to keep this truth hidden, securing their power and keeping the Covenant together.
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>>736917883
Warrior race means a big schlong is detrimental in battle they would evolve to optimize for quick sex not pleasurable sex.
And
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>>736917883
But they'd find it cute
Penis size is not relative to body size though. There are loads of factors
If their society is heavily androcratic then they likely did not develop large penises (see gorillas)
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>>736918038
They already have the slit, the cock can be as big as it wants since it's already tucked away.
Sorry man, those Sangheili woman are not going to be impressed by that tiny (comparatively) human penis.
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>>736917412
It's less a case of us being compatible with them and more them being built for us
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>>736916032
Can you imagine a hypothetical galaxy where the profits weren't scheming dick fags and found their literal gods one day?

God that would be so fucking cash. An entire religion based around (you)
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How do elites drink liquids or eat small things? They have no bottom jaw or tongue, so it would just fall out between their lower mandibles.
Do they have to use giant chris-chan style sippy straws, or do they look straight up while eating?
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>>736918504
They use comical straws for fluids.
And they outright just swallow stuff like a duck when eating.
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>>736918654
>And they outright just swallow stuff like a duck when eating.
What if it has bones. Do they slurp it off the bone or do they just eat it.
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>>736918758
Just swallow it whole, bones and all. They're pretty carnivorous.
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>>736918504
Their bottom jaws can rotate/close
>Halo Art:

Art of Halo (Book):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h-iGMCmclzDALKgfC2wlbyXzjMLe3Zd5/view?usp=sharing

Art of Halo (CE-Reach Era)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1K3PfCC8HCAUOI3nQ9_9pGVRYcjpL-MhW

Art of Halo 3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1auer4fB3VaEXpiL6V2che4XfFnEjRu9T/view?usp=sharing

Art of Halo 4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xtMP-H4FJIz-2gQoquY9Bt62wmiy2RDh/view?usp=sharing

Art of Halo 5 (In Pictures)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_91XD7LvoPYKSr76r_4vct3-ERiDyAH_

Art of Halo 5 itself:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I2gQSWLin8tR6muoMq15l9BcDsDF10z1/view?usp=drive_link

Art Compilation from CE to 4
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rWdsTUeTftKH2PwfLW1pjcsRjYYjIddj

Art of Halo Infinite
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JaWzi7lVlWJbwNT84QVW-XcAEB7xs0or/view?usp=sharing

>Lore:

Halo Books:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bBU5vA0J187XOne_s_Ll-ezCNua-0QAG

Halo Encyclopedia (Reach Edition)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XrPuSNx9oIW6CtYBHdp6QqFEh-T-c9vU/view?usp=sharing

Halo Encyclopedia (2022) PDF and Images
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZzadVgbqQpMRf4_B4Z_C6Vu4ynOGJdkG

Warfleet:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1owTpd6rvBlSPXRV5EtvsQh4hAQYGPnz8

Mythos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rzczG-L0JbmTwc4X5qqg7UlTmeOUWC5w?usp=sharing

Halo 3 Bestiarum:
https://imgur.com/a/bqhA9xu

Halo Prima Strategy Guides
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1i207FmeTepCM9JknLjKylKll6bHRkp8E?usp=sharing
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>>736916971
The more I hear about Halo lore the more I think that the Covenant are supposed to be Islam. Though there's no way Bungie would do that.
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>>> EXTRACT OF SANCTIONED SANGHEILI EAVESDROP// FOR THE ATTENTION OF JIRALHANAE MILITARY ADJUNCT AMBASSADOR >>>

The Humans are weak, but they are tenacious. Even the smallest ones hurl themselves against our defenses with honor. If only the Unggoy were as committed.

>>> I wonder about the Humans, Commander. Their technology is limited, but some of it is useful and their battle techniques are impressive. They are excellent strategists. But what I ask is this: Why have we not offered them the absolution of the Covenant? From the beginning of this war, the Prophets have made no attempt to absorb them or even offer the option of honorable submission. Why?

Perhaps they fear them? We do not know where their homeworld is. Their pattern of retreat is either hopelessly random, or brilliantly conceived. What if the Humans have more power, more numbers than we suspect? What if they lead us to a trap?

>>> No. I do not think that is the reasoning. They continue to lose territory, and pattern or no pattern, these defenses must be part of a perimeter. I suspect we are forcing them into a tighter arena than they care to fight in - soon we may be able to use the Sharquoi. And their victories, however few, always rely on the same thing - strategy, brute force, or luck. No. The only secret they hold is the location of their homeworld.

What about the atrocity at Halo? That was not luck, nor brute force. The Demon is a mystery. He outwitted and outfought entire legions on Halo. Perhaps there are more like him?

>>> I do not believe that. We have seen their kind before and destroyed them. Their numbers have dwindled and there have been no reported sightings since our victory at Reach.

Then why do we continue to hunt them? When surely they merit consideration to accept and embrace the Covenant?

>>> Let us discuss this at a more prudent moment. A Jiralhanae approaches.
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>>736919992
Duh.
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>>736916032
they were shy
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>>736916032
Because the prophets knew humans were forerunners and revealing that would fuck up their power structure.
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>thread has been up over an hour
>no elite porn
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>>736919992
Arbiter's name was literally called Dervish til like last minute in development. There's voice lines in earlier versions still around.
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>>736920083
Does that mean Halo 4, 5, and Infinite are the equivalent of Mormon fanfiction?
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>>736920283
Sangheili (Vien)
https://imgchest.com/p/md7o9xek97p?grid=1

Fem Sangheili (Vela)
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>>736920478
I mean yeah it's like that for any game franchise that has none of the original staff working on it anymore.
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>>736916032
Reminder that Forerunners were literally homo sapiens and the change to make them a different species in Halo 3 ruins the entire message the series is built upon.
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>>736920575
Halo 3 confirms Humans and Forerunner share the same kind of ancestor, actually.
Bestiarum confirms Precursors uplifted certain species, and a Bungie employee added onto that a few years ago.
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>>736919992
This is going to cause people to froth, but:
Forerunners = Jews
Humanity = Christianity
Covenant = Islam

Halo 4 is basically a story about a Talmudic Jew who's unable to accept humanity as the legitimate successor and trying to turn humanity into golems.
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>>736920706
They share the same ancestor because humans are forerunners. Not metaphorically or spiritually but literally and genetically.
It's why forerunner shit outright goes "Oh hey a forerunner nice to see you again!" when it sees people.
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>>736920948
Huh?
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>>736921006
>My friend who wrote fanfiction for the IP says this
So?
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>>736921006
Here's the bestiarum
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>>736921092
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>>736921165
>Forerunners originally were
Originally? Forerunners are humans, they always were.
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>>736921228
>Originally? Forerunners are humans, they always were.
It changed between Halo 2 and 3.
You have no receipts.
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>>736921306
Halo 2 was never finished and therefore there exists no 'actual' Halo 2. Anything past that is officially licensed fanfiction.
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>>736916032
>>736916685
>>736916898
>Why didn't the covenant just invite humanity into the death cult instead of being such assholes?
This makes me think about how an alternate version of Halo where this happened would go.
>alternate version of the Covenant that is smaller and less powerful but still has the crazy technology Humanity lacks
>all of the Covenant species are still present, there's just a lot less of them
>the Prophets aren't lying pieces of shit slinging bullshit to keep themselves at the top of the hierarchy, they actually believe the stuff they preach
>the war isn't about trying to wipe out Humanity to cover up the lies of the Covenant leaders, its about trying to bring a new species into the fold
>war doesn't start with actual battles, it starts with the Covenant sending missionaries to struggling Human colonies offering them a new faith to guide them forward as well as the support the government on Earth failed to give them
>Covenant begins arming Human rebels, even the ones that have zero interest in their religions, to weaken the U.N.S.C
>by the time actual war breaks out between the U.N.S.C and the Covenant, millions of Humans have already willingly accepted the Covenant as their new rulers and now fight alongside Elites, Grunts, Jackals and the like
>games still takes place from the perspective of Master Chief, now he's also gunning down Human fanatics instead of just alien zealots
A game like that would be pretty cool, regardless of whether you play as a Human on the Human side or a Human on the alien side.
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>>736921361
Halo CE was supposed to be a Marathon continuation until Joseph Staten came on board and said Cortana turning into an evil Durandal hybrid was a bad idea.
Under that logic, Halo's a failure since the start.
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>>736921521
Nah, CE is just a good game with fun lore.
Bungie is sort of just seething nowadays because they fucked up the only good thing they ever made, and now they're stuck making live service games nobody likes.
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>>736921412
It's kind of weird that there's one two pieces of halo media that actually lets you fight the URF, one of them being multiplayer maps in halo wars 1 and the other being a mod for CE.
Human enemies in halo, when used right and not just spammed, are pretty fun and require different tactics than covenant or flood.
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>>736921621
I don't know why I wrote "one" in front of two.
Anyway the mod is Mercury Rising, it's very good.
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So is Halo like, fucking over now or something
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>>736921810
I got what I needed out of it.
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>>736921810
>So is Halo like, fucking over now or something
Pretty much, Campaign Evolved is probably going to sink the IP for good because it's UE5slop in the times where people can't actually afford the supercomputers required to run the stupid thing.
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>>736921098
Humanity requires blood sacrifices to make AI?
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>>736922278
Smart AIs require human brain(s).
Halsey cloned hers to make Cortana
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>>736922278
Yeah, they use super-intense scans of human brains that cause hemorrhaging in the person being scanned.
Cortana was the first human AI produced in a deathless method.
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I want to upload Durandal to a female body and rape him
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>>736922546
Charlemagne you fruit cake
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>>736922546
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>>736920083
>The ultimate lesson of Halo is that if Christians and Muslims work together they can defeat the Jews, absolve their sins, and live in peace
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Sangheili are cool and all, but for me? It's female Spartans with their helmets and armors always on.
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>>736922967
>tfw no emotionally stunted super soldier wearing skintight sci-fi armor gf
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>>736922967
God damn marine armor from CE and wars is peak.
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>>736923092
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>>736918030
>Because humans are forerunners
Not anymore. 343 retconned it.
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>>736921412
Would human covenant be given energy shields like elites or would they be shieldless nakeds like everyone else? I don't think any of the covenant ever used cover during firefights.
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>>736923414
343 did a lot of shit.
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>>736923485
Whoops wrong one.
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>>736923092
Big fan of the retroactive reason they made up being that plasma weapons just melted ceramics and kevlar into the wearing so that's why they went back to metal plates that could be easily ripped off the body before the plasma burnt through.
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>>736923569
Yeah, and then they decided "Eh fuck it" and made them generic green army men. At least wars brought back the plates.
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>>736923704
The CE segmented plate design makes the most sense because if they get shot with plasma the armor plates can easily be removed instead of sitting there while the plasma melts through to their flesh, Reach's marines just look retarded.
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>>736922967
why would she be glowing red through the armor
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>>736923485
>>736923548
grok is this real?
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>>736922967
>spoiler
based
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>>736923889
Reaches marines aren't that bad.
2's were the worst.
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>>736924232
POCKETS!
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>>736924232
isn't that an eva suit
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>>736924448
All the marines in Reach wear EVA helmets.
Probably because they look fuken sik.
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>>736924391
DOMINANCE IN THE ROCKETS, MAKE THAT SHIT A SCIENCE
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>>736922967
Based
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>>736918504
I remember when I was a kid around Halo 3 era I fantasized about a sort of slice of life story about a squad of UNSC Marines which happened to have an Elite in it and the lot of them basically just hung out together and the Elite was such a dudebro. Not really fighting a war or anything, just doing basic army shit like hanging out in a base then going to the local neighborhood to get some food
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>>736919992
That’s unironically basically it. Prophets, Covenant, Dervish (Arbiter’s original title), it’s all one big psyop to convince kids to bomb Muslims
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>>736921306
Why does 343 Guilty Spark say "you are forerunner" in 3 then?
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Bungie era books and games are peak, even the weird one with the Sgt Johnson sex scene. I don’t know what the fuck happened with 343, but the nice thing is it’s all fanfiction with them and can be discarded.
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>>736919992
Aliens make better neighbor, though.
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>>736925179
It's so weird that this is like a common wish for most modern Halo fans. They just wanna see humans and Sangheili chilling together
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>>736916971
Why didn't the Prophets just put some legwork in and claim they blessed humanity or something? Even humans didn't know what the fuck Forerunner technology was or what it would do. Just have humanity activate shit after the Prophets do some big ridiculous ritual to (apparently) allow humans to do that. Then have them be subservient and bribe them with Elite wives.
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>>736925448
Why would they bless a brand new race that they just met and not the loyal races that have been in their service for centuries? The elites freaked out and started flipping their shit because they got replaced with brutes as honor guards, so much so that truth decided to just try to kill all of them.
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>>736925448
Because the forerunner relics that were active directly called humans forerunner.
The big trick won't really work when the holy oracles of your religion (The monitors) are outright saying what you're trying to suppress.
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>>736920706
Elites don't like that in Halo 3, that looks like a Halo 2 Elite
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why do you guys want to fuck big strong scary monster aliens?
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>>736925391
Any sci-fi setting about Humans fighting aliens is inevitably going to have a good chunk of people think "actually these aliens are pretty cool, I'd like to hang out with one if they weren't shooting at me". Like imagine how cool it would be to have a Yaut'ja as a best friend?
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>>736925549
>Why would they bless a brand new race that they just met and not the loyal races that have been in their service for centuries?
It was revealed to them in a (holy) dream. I don't know, I just don't think it's infeasible that some Covenant religious scholar could Aquinas up a rationalization. The rest of them already listen to the Prophets on basically every issue anyway. Even something like this >>736925559 could just be kept very isolated where only the most trusted people could hear it.
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I know no one gives a shit about nu-Halo lore, and they’re right to not give a shit about it because it’s fucking stupid, but I’m kinda angry that they made Let ‘Volir, the Shipmaster from Halo Wars 2, a sort of vehement leader of the Banished. I always found that character so fascinating. He was a disillusioned captain serving a Covenant splinter faction, mostly because he had nothing else to live for except his crew. Then Atriox came out of nowhere and forced Volir at gunpoint to serve him in exchange for patronage. The crew then essentially became a band of mercenaries working under contract for Atriox. Even the Honor Guard Hero Unit has lines bemoaning how the ship and its Elites have been reduced to mere mercenaries working for a Brute warlord. I generally always liked the Shipmaster. He has this really cool guerrilla warfare style going on which perfectly fits how his crew is made up of a ragtag of disillusioned veterans, and the Honor Guard in particular is really cool even if he requires a lot of micromanagement and excels more at stealth and surprise attacks than upfront combat, which again perfectly suits Elites. The Shipmaster was described as an unwilling right hand man to Atriox who only served him out of duty to his own Elites, not because he actually respected Atriox. And I always thought about how cool it would be if the Shipmaster eventually defected from Atriox and betrayed him or at least just ran off on his own. But instead 343i just decided the Shipmaster randomly becomes extremely loyal to Atriox and a diehard believe in the Banished. What a wasted opportunity.
Speaking of Elites and wasted opportunities, I’m also angry we’ll probably never see that Jega Whatever Elite from Halo Infinite. He was like the single only good thing about Halo Infinite.
As Jon Graham so eloquently puts it - Halo nowadays is just a corpse floating in the water
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AY YO NIGGA U IS FO-RUNNAH N SHIT
‐343 Always Guilty Spark
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>>736921810
It’s been dead since Halo Reach
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>>736919992
No dude, that's actually spot on.
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>>736926045
>I’m also angry we’ll probably never see that Jega Whatever Elite from Halo Infinite.
Wait, they never did anything with him?
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>>736923092
I remember playing the first halo remaster where I explicitly turned the nu graphics off because the 343 armor looked so fucking bland and boring.
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>>736916032
I think the better question is why do all aliens and non-humans lust for human cock so much
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>>736926909
We're soft and pleasant to the eye.
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>>736922905
>>736925254
retard alert
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>>736923414
>343
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>>736925286
Why did he think he was talking to the exact same person in CE?

>Last time you asked me "would I do it"? Having had considerable time to ponder this query, my answer has not changed.
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>>736928537
He was referring to humanity in the royal way, like
>We welcome you to our home
when it's just one person telling you that.
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What are female Sangheili like?
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>>736929432
Horny
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>>736929432
In the books it's mentioned that they often find human males to be cute.
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What are male Sangheili like?
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>>736929856
What books and chapter
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>>736930138
Assholes.
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>>736921412
The thing is how would the part about Humans being Forerunners go down for the Covenant? In Halo the entire war was the Prophets covering up the fact that humans were originally the gods that made the Halos.
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>>736930150
Hmofa haters wouldn't believe any sources.
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>>736916971
Why didn't these fags just capture a bunch of human kids and make their own army of humans who held allegiance to the Covenant? Then we could have sick battles against human foes in alien armor. Why the fuck didn't these retards have their own Spartan program?
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>>736931717
If you're asking why the elites didn't do this it's because the time between them defecting and the end of the covenant was like 3 weeks
If youre asking why didn't the prophets do this it's because that would go against the narrative that humanity to a man were demons / the anti chirst
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>>736931717
Because the Prophets are big gay homosexual faggots who hate fun.
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>>736916032
The entire reason the Prophets refused to let humanity join is because they knew the humans were Forerunner descendants and it decimated every facet of their religion.

Reminder, humans not being Forerunner was a retcon by Frankie with his faggot Terminals in Halo 3, which happened explicitly because at that point Bungie was checked out didn't really care because they were sick of Microsoft. They were done with the franchise, and Halo 3:ODST and Reach were just contractual obligations.
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>>736930138
Really honorable and bro-like.
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Are the books worth it?
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>>736930138
Really awkward when their daughters bring you to meet the family before marriage.
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>>736930521
I imagine in this alternate universe were the Covenant and the San'Shyuum aren't piece of shit frauds trying to do a genocide as a cover up, the revelation that Humans are the Forerunner make them go "Oh shit, now we DEFINITELY have to bring these beautiful Human sphinxes into our Covenant so we can all share in the Great Journey together and make one of them the next Prophet". Basically
>We will be best of friends and there's nothing you can fucking do to stop it
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I lost all hope when I saw the ammo counter on the Needler. A weapon which already tells you how much ammo is left thanks to the needles depleting.
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>>736916032
They did, the prophets shut it down because they knew humans were forerunners
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>>736918205
Your demoralization posting isn't going to work, san'shyuum. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a former sangheli ranger to breed
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>>736932681
>I lost all hope when I saw the ammo counter on the Needler
It's a cute little detail, who cares? If you want to complain about something meaningful, complain about how lackluster the sound design, animations, weapon models look in general.
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>>736916032
>Bungie lore
Humans are Forerunners, and their existence proves that the great journey is a lie.
>343 lore
Humans got genetic cheat codes to Forerunner tech and they'd replace the Prophets as most special boys in the religion.
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>>736933028
He got his opinion from an eceleb. That was a golem that you just replied to.
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>>736923895
He actually just had some hot cheetos
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>>736933028
>>736933190
Samefag or twin retards separated at birth.

Putting an ammo counter on the Needler is like putting a window-based HUD indicator inside a car that tells you the direction the wheel is turned. It is completely superfluous, pointless, it was designed and created by a simpleton with no rhyme or reason as to why he did what he did, because he didn't give a shit beyond creating something flashy for the sake of it.
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>>736916032
Technically humanities existence is a outright disproval of their death cult to anyone who looks deeper into the forerunner archeology, so our continued existence is kinda at odds with their goals
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>>736923895
Its his blood
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>>736921810
It's been over for 15 years, literally the only good thing that could possible happen to the franchise now is for the Master Chief Collection to be released on Playstation for one last fresh injection of players into the multiplayer before it fades away forever, extra bonus points if it's a PS+ title but that's probably less likely than Microsoft making another good Halo game.
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heard a cope theory from youtuber
>humanity not being forerunners is not a retcon
>forerunners are the progenitor race, humanity is an offshoot that was meant to inherit the responsibility but they got shafted
>it explains why Humanity can access foirerunner tech
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>>736933028
if fairly certain the cute detail was that in halo ce (2002) the needler already had an ammo counter -- the needles.
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>>736933528
>Putting an ammo counter on the Needler is like putting a window-based HUD indicator inside a car that tells you the direction the wheel is turned
I don't give a fuck. That counter is as redundant as having a Scope on the BR or iron sights on a SMG when the Smart Link system has been a thing in canon since CE.
Look, i'm not defending 343 or whatever, i'm just saying i would rather focus my hate in a more useful direction.
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>>736933938
scopes and sights exist and continue to exist because they're analog backups in case your smart link system fails.

this is why i will never ever piss and shit and moan about the 117 label on chief's design in infinite. it exists as an immediate visual identifier if smart link fails and nobody can just magically read who people are via tech.
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>>736933938
Difference is the Needler isn't a human weapon, it's not attached to Smart Link. Giving it a counter makes it less alien and more human.
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Why did Bungie go harder into Christian values in Destiny than they did in both Halo and Marathon?

>Never forget that even in the miserable logic of the prisoner's dilemma, it is the cooperators who create the best world. Two cooperators will score higher, together, than two defectors ever could. A world of cooperators would defeat a world of defectors if the defectors could only be kept away from the cooperators' bounty.

>Never forget that what we achieve together, what we accomplish by leavening Darkness with Light and Light with Darkness, tempering grace with memory and memory with grace, is quite literally more than the Darkness alone can imagine. The Hive may have extinguished entire galaxies of allied life, but before the Hive came, those ecumenes accomplished titanic works. What do the Hive have to show for all their conquest? Miserable warrens and rotting moons. Even their libraries are just catalogs of death. Even their queens want a way out.

>Never give up hope. If it is possible to live well, then it is worthwhile to try. If it is possible to exist by the rules of the Light, then the Darkness is forever defeated. It cannot dominate all things for all time.
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>>736916032
>Why did the top dogs of the covenant try to keep themselves in power at any cost
A complete mystery.
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>>736926324
Infinite was discontinued. That Elite will likely get killed by Guilty Spark (Forma de hombre-mechano) and his mystery meat gf in one of the books.Yes 343 brought back spark instead of using any other monitor including the new one from Infinite.
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>Actually Forerunners and humans are completely separate species
>Actually humans can only operate Forerunner tech because the Librarian decided they would be the chosen ones. She liked humans because she made a flower garden on ancient Earth once.
>*replaces Marty O'Donnel easter egg with a render of himself for no reason*
>Actually the Ark wasn't destroyed. High Charity wasn't destroyed either.
>Halo 3? Yes, it ended with the Covenant and the UNSC teaming up in a huge battle to defeat the Flood once and for all. It was epic. What do you mean that isn't how Halo 3 ended? It was real in my mind. Humanity has a truce with the covenant.
>Actually the Arbiter was an elite who was punished with the role after losing a sword fight with the Master Chief. Halo 2? What? It never happened.
>Halo's overarching story has always
>Actually rampancy is AI schizophrenia.
>Actually, 343 Guilty Spark is an insane human caveman transplanted into an orb drone and everything he said is because of rampancy.
>Did I mention I wrote some terminals in Halo 3? Yes they directly contradict the other terminals and make no sense but that's because the other terminal writers were wrong. Microsoft said so.
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>>736916032
its a death cult dumbass
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>>736934520
It is incredible how this worthless Bungie.net janitor somehow wormed his way to the top of the totem pole.
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>>736924232
>>736924391
what happens if a plasma bolt hits a full magazine?
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>>736933912
>the needler already had an ammo counter -- the needles.
The needler consuming crystals is a cute detail. The needler's ammo counter is the actual ammo counter on your HUD. To say the needler doesn't need an ammo counter is just dumb.
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>>736934520
>>Halo 3? Yes, it ended with the Covenant and the UNSC teaming up in a huge battle to defeat the Flood once and for all. It was epic. What do you mean that isn't how Halo 3 ended? It was real in my mind. Humanity has a truce with the covenant.
That segment of Halo Legends was really sour for me. What's even stranger was that Part I of Origins was still hinting at the bungie connection between humanity and forerunners despite other Frank O'Connor retcons being present.
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>>736934658
okay, so now the needler has THREE ammo counters
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>>736934658
>To say the needler doesn't need an ammo counter is just dumb.
You just said it yourself, the needler already has not one but two ammo counters. Why would it ever need a third ammo counter added to it?
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>>736934758
>>736934763
>three
Two. Why do it with the AR or any of the other guns if it's redundant?
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>>736934947
Because ammo counters on rifles look cool.
Ammo counters on pistol/smg sized weapons look silly.
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>>736916032
Didn't most elites like us formally because of our tenacity? It made it easier for the alliance at the end of the war.
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I want to jerk off onto Guilty Spark 343. That is all, thank you for your time.
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>>736934947
because the br is a human weapon and the ammo counter is a visual backup if smart link fails.

why does the alien weapon with an ammo counter now have a second ammo counter?
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Why did Elites want to fuck humans?
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>>736916032
>Ywn be saved from a glassing by a maternal sangheli woman and be treated like her own son
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>>736936128
Maybe grunts don't like dying and would like to have an accurate count of how much ammo they have.
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>>736936259
>a son she wants to fuck
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>>736916032
Because the prophets had everyone thinking thet were the forerunners' chosen people and didn't want anyone finding out that it was actually humans.
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>>736936259
Oh I'll be her son alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8GXZcdrIk
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>>736936349
That's what the needles sticking out the top of the weapon are fore, obviously. Plus Covenant weapons in general don't have displays with the exact amount of shots remaining so why should the needler randomly get one when apparently none of the other Covenant weapons in the remake do?
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>>736936259
Given their culture where they expect everyone to be physically adept it would be like having mix of a protective bear and a personal trainer
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>>736936349
Grunts can't count
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>>736936446
sounds familiar..
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>>736916898
Like what, Judaism?
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>>736936780
It's actually incredible how on the nose it is that the prophets are Jews and the sangheili are Romans, with humanity being a greater stand in for Jesus with the allegory culminating into its pinpoint at Chief himself.
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>>736936803
I was thinking more evangelical Christianity.
Or scientology
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>>736936971
indeed. modern jews often liken themselves as the Israelites when in reality it was an ancient tribe of Whites who held that mantle.
probably.

GAYLO LOL
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>>736916032
because humanity was a massive contradiction to the prophets religion since not only did it turn out their "gods" were just some rando apes they powercrept at the moment, it also revealed that the halos weren't a guarantee of ascenscion since some of said gods were left behind (and this was all before any of them had a clue on what the halos really did), in other words the best case scenario was said prophets having to give up their leadership position, and at worst the entire covenant falls into civil war since the numerous races kept in line with the promise of ascension would then have no reason to stay with it, in other words it was a case of bury the evidence and hope nobody puts two and two together, it nearly worked but Truth got to cocky by betraying the elites
>>736916685
in the case they would be offered to join, humanity wouldn't really have a choice, granted they could have probably gotten some concessions like the jackals did
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>>736916032
They could barelly get along with the other species. And Sanghelli do prefer humanity to Jiralhinae. Much like muslims prefer to live with christians instead of with each others.
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>>736935350
The new Guilty Spark could turn himself into a female robot. But his AI is male he even had a crush on the lifebringer, he would never do that.
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>>736935180
at the start no since the elites were all in on the prophets lies, but as the progressed they slowly started to respect humanity, especially the younger elites which made them start wondering why they were just killing them instead of offering them a chance to join, which is partially the reason truth wanted the elites gone since it was only a matter of time until enough of them put two and two together
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>>736932674
Actually based. Do you think there would be a special human "royal family" that would be tasked with handling Forerunner artifacts?
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>>736931717
In the shitty TV show they actually did capture and raise a human girl just for that purpose.
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Since 343 sucks at making games, I suggest licensing other studios to make halo games like wars was.
Crpg concept as example:
>set between 4 and 5
>character creator for your very own insurrectionist
>start on a space station run by an unaligned Shan'Shyuum prince (hella zesty)
>working as a privateer/scav
>crew is former odst bro, girl jackal pirate, agricultural ai in farm robot repurposed for combat
>after tutorial mission knocking over a merchant ship, space station gets attacked by one of split jaw's prophet genocide crusade ship
>elites are killing everyone
>get out with your crew, the prince and his bodyguard (female), a definitely not ONI spook female , grunt mad scientist, brute gladiator, grunt also brings along his gremlin mech and a disabled promethean knight
>turns out girl elite zealot snuck on but the crew stops her and she ends up joining after some plot
>promethean knight ends up hosting your agricultural AI
>prince is pissy about losing his station, knows of an old story about a forerunner bot that could wreck entire systems, is paying you find it
>plot is basically you putsing around the galaxy fighting smaller factions, storm covies and prometheans, innies, unsc, banished, as you chase the princes fairy tale
>eventually cracking into into the domain, releasing cortana and causing the prometheans and storm covies to break up
>you can romance whoever including the aliens
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>>736931717
>Why didn't these fags just capture a bunch of human kids and make their own army of humans who held allegiance to the Covenant?
Because what's the benefit? Physically speaking, humans are very weak and fragile, take away their ballistic weapons and other tech and they're nothing.

>Why the fuck didn't these retards have their own Spartan program?
They didn't really need one.
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>>736916032
In the actual lore, it's because humans are the re-seeded Forerunners after the Halos cleansed the galaxy of life complex enough to support the Flood parasite.

The Covenant religion is predicated on the belief that activating the Halo array ascended the Forerunner race to Godhood, and that they may do the same. This applies to all the faithful living or dead, so they basically believe that reality is hell/limbo and that they and all their ancestors can go to heaven if the Halos go off again. Nonbelievers and heretics get left behind in this shitty universe.

Forerunners still being around in any form proves that either:

A) Their entire religion is a complete lie.

B) Those Forerunners are the descendants of those unworthy to go on the Great Journey, fallen angels a.k.a DEMONS. You'll notice subtle biblical wordplay throughout the original Halo trilogy.

With this retconned, there is no coherent reason. This also makes the Didact in 4 extra retarded, 343i writers didn't really grasp the most basic plot elements of the Halo trilogy. At the start of that game Chief states he thought the UNSC had a truce with the Covenant.
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>>736941069
>With this retconned, there is no coherent reason
No there is a coherent reason. With humans being the Forerunner's chosen people and the Prophets finding out about it, it means they either:
A) Their entire religion is completely misguided and they've been esentially killing their gods' children all along

B) The prophets lose their positions of power at the top of the Covenant (and they obviously want none of that)
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During cutscene prior to Spark's boss fight in Halo 3
>You are the child of my makers
>Inheritor of all they left behind
>You(tm) Are(tm) Forerunner(tm)
>But this ring is mine

During the boss fight itself
>Think of your forefathers!
>Do not destroy your inheritance!
>Accept your legacy!

Why did they make forerunners a separate species after 2 games hinting and one game outright confirming forerunners were humans? Was 343 stupid?
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>>736916032
According to OG canon, before the retcons, the Prophets knew humanity and the Forerunners were one and the same, and they knew that their very existence proved a threat to the Covenant's stability. If your gods were alive and standing before you, what would you do? The knowledge would've ripped the Covenant apart even faster.

In current canon, it's because humans were had a stronger claim to the Forerunner legacy than the Prophets did, they were competition that had to be blasted away.
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I'm so fucking tired of this. Humans being a separate species was confirmed in Halo 3, not hinted, not suggested, straight up CONFIRMED. 343 had nothing to do with that, they simply went full retard about it.
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>>736941358
The retcon came from bungie, due to the messed up development state of Halo 2. The original ending had Spark and the Arbiter beholding direct proof that Humans and Forerunners were one and the same: The tomb of a Forerunner, with a human skeleton in it.
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>>736940450
I don't care about crpgs but I would kill someone for a Halo XCOM clone
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>>736922967
This but they also got extra boosts from their augmentations
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>>736941584
My problem with licensed xcoms are the insistence on premade characters instead of disposable fodder.
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>>736941584
>Halo XCOM clone
Gears Tactics was fucking great but for the entire playthrough i couldn't stop dreaming about a Halo version with ODSTs and shit.
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>>736916898
Aye
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>>736941539
Weren't there also two different writing teams for the terminals and actual story?
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>>736916685
Yes. Especially those who were on the outer edge of the map and already hating the main earth government and more importantly a giant collation of aliens with weapons that outmatch you totally saying Join or die is a compelling argument.
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>>736916685
A ton joined the banished, and there were pirate coalitions between Jackals and Humans. Humans in Halo just fucking hating ONI and its flunkies.
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>>736916685
Unironically humanity joining the covenant on peaceful terms would directly lead to startrek level post scarcity.
Given that humans are more innovative than the covenant they would not only super charge regular covenant tech they would also have access to forerunner artefacts that bend to their will.
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>>736924232
I like the Infinite marines
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>>736934643
Lots of popping but the guy is probably OK. Bullets being lit on fire only becomes a real problem is it's like .50 or something. Or if you're holding it when it goes off.
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>>736941634
why would soldiers be fat
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>>736923092
>ammo counter is an attachment on the side
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>>736944687
She's not fat :(
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>>736944687
>>736945254
She's festively plump.
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>>736945254
bbbarrraaaaaap
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>>736945915
kill yourself immediately
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>>736945357
And that's a good thing
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>>736945992
her nipples must be pretty stiff to be seen through the armor
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>>736946550
That's just how it is sometimes
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>>736945978
why
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Who has the tightest pussy?
Spartan females or Elite females?
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>>736947021
Farting is gross. Big butts are for squishing and hotdogging
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>>736937217
>Doesn't agree
Yep, you're a kike. 110 countries will soon be the whole world soon.
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>>736947021
For ruining the vibe
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>>736947021
>shit smeller asks what's wrong with the scent of shit
pathetic
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Why are Halo /v/ threads always filled with hyper inflation slop?
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>>736947426
That's just the kinda porn Halo is filled with for some reason.
People really love the blobs.
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>>736945915
I agree
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>>736918030
Humans aren't forerunner, forerunners are human. They're a prototypical human species like Austeoreorereroeoreolipihpthithithicus
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>>736947426
because halo is over, it's fucking over
might as well
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>>736947223
Ok
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>>736947426
Because big boobs and butts are cool
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>>736947160
Brute gorilla grip
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>sax is used to represent rookie's lonely trek through the city
>those smooth, three notes
>fast forward to the finale
>giant band going full ham
>sax out in front doing its thing
>towards the end of finale the entire band does the three note motif
>mfw
God I love the music of Halo.
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>>736947160
Definitely not the latter after they have a run-in with the former
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>>736948116
ODST is the weakest Halo, both in soundtrack and gameplay.
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>>736941358
A community manager who was extremely uninformed about Halo's story but also wanted to reshape the universe to fit his personal headcanon was given ultimate power over the entire franchise.
see >>736934520
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>>736948316
5 has the weakest soundtrack Mombasa Streets is a certified hood classic.
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>>736932681
You Halo faggots were retarded to still have hope in the first place. Series needs one of two things, 1. it needs to be permanently vaulted and never get another game again, 2. it needs to be vaulted for two to three decades and then hard rebooted from the very beginning. Halofags need to prove they're actual gamers by leaving this series and playing other video games that aren't Halo nor feel like Halo in any way. Don't bring up Halo, don't talk about Halo, don't make comparisons with Halo, just let it die. Halo was some dudebro normalfag series from its time and all moved on from it, time to do the same, Xbox is dead and not coming back anyway. Gaming was better when that console didn't exist.
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brap
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>>736948656
>The people who like Halo have somehow never ever touched any other video games in the past two decades
We're not CoD and sports niggers, we actually play games.
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>>736948656
>never ever touched other video games
Because the mark of a real gamer is playing overwatch, fortnite, and cod featuring nicky menage
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>>736948919
You only play Halo and you won't let it go. I wasn't all that when I played it, and getting an Xbox 360 was a drag. It honestly nearly killed my love of gaming until I went back to PC and Nintendo, given that Japanese leadership has taken over PlayStation again and all the rumors after Astro Bot that's happening with that, I'll probably be returning to PlayStation too. Never listening to normal faggots again, they're retarded.
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>>736949069
Multiplayer slop aren't video games, neither are third-person movie slop.
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>>736949164
>You only play Halo and you won't let it go.
Nigger I have 4000 hours between Helldivers 2, Space Marine 2 and Forza Horizon 5 in the past three years.
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>>736949225
You're literally just playing dudebro shit, you can't escape Halo, you can escape normalfags choosing games for you, and you can't escape Xbox despite it dying in real time.
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>>736949301
Sorry I'm not playing the twentieth rendition of your strategy grid slop.
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Because humans are able to use forerunner tech natively, thus supplanting the prophet race as the custodians of forerunner tech. Also humans found out the rings are genocide weapons instead of heralds of the great journey.
>>736942783
Completely haram to covenant religion and wouldn't happen.
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>>736919149
Bro I fuckin love you. Been scrounging for this shit.
Next time you're in Constantinople, hit me up for a drink
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I bet the post-alliance Human-Covenant make-up sex is wild.
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>>736925179
> be me
> one or two years after the human-covenant war
> member of an experimental integrated battalion
> deployed on some backwater rock for the purposes of sussing out cells of loyalist remnants.
> only one or two elites per platoon, most aren't too happy about it
> myself included
> we're basically glorified translators for the humies
> one day onna patrol in space Humvees thru an old village
> covenant deserters been squatting here for ages, probably pre-schism
> lots of unggoy and kig-yar milling about
> presumably they procreate with one another idk
> a gaggle of “grunts”, as the humans call them, start milling towards our vehicle
> they're calling out excitedly, asking for sustenance
> a popular ruse, i keep an eye on them
> hear giggling from the soldier next to me
> “hey Lippy, check it” he shakes a bottle of yellow liquid
> oh no
> he hurls the bottle at the one closest
> it's a direct hit
> piss flies everywhere
> the unggoy is drenched, and sobbing
> it's companions are fighting over what remains inside the bottle
> everyone in the vehicle starts howling with laughter
> my stoic warrior spirit demands that I can not join in the revelry
> i’m dying on the inside
> maybe these humies aren't so bad after all
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>>736947172
>Big butts are for sph
Ftfy
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>>736948316
>saying this dumb shit when Halo 5 exists
ODST's missions and OST are fucking amazing, only classic Halo without a level I hate replaying.
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>>736950115
I bet it wasn't and it didn't even happen. The amount of lives lost on both sides meant the alliance was pretty only a "common enemy" thing.
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>>736948316
ODST has the best Halo gameplay with the exception of CE itself lmao.
What are you talking about?
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>>736950571
I hate replaying Kilowanki Station and Data Hive.
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>>736950697
Kikowani Station is probably the only one I'm not excited to get to on replays but I don't hate it like The Library, Sacred Icon, or Cortana.
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>>736921725
You tried to type "only" and your phone autocorrect took over.
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>literally the only good thing to come out of Halo 5
It is insane how Infinite went for shovel asses instead of keeping female Spartans like they should be.
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>>736947848
Explodable
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>>736952146
Her helmet is stupid
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I've finished halo 1 and 2 these weeks and I must say halo 1 has some boring copy paste level design that prevents me from ever playing it again. halo 2 no longer had that copy paste level but it still feels like it is dragging out. Halo 3, the one I'm playing currently is awesome. It gets the level length just right, the flood enemies are easier to kill and everything is fun.
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>>736925391
I want a game or anime where arbiter aka thel vadam accidentally finds himself in the farthest of the human colony. While trying to get back, he travel from one human world to another (human planet has culture based on which earth region settler came from), experiencing their cultures, often comparing his Sangheili culture to theirs'. Is like kino's journey with isekai element.
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>>736952865
Yes but her butt is incredible.
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>>736952865
I wasn't looking at her helmet
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>>736952865
Her helmet is sexy and I want to cum on it
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>>736934324
me on the right
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>>736952865
Consider
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>>736950115
Many shangueili live on Earth. So yes.
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>>736950115
>Sangheili girls given to human men as reperstions
>The hate in her eyes as you're allowed to do whatever you want with her body and she can do nothing
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>>736955664
We literally see a female sangueili going from tsundere to friendly towards humans in Halo Empty Throne.
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>>736955664
>Reparations
>Not just having a hookup with the cute genki sangheili tourist gal.
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>>736953707
Very true
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>>736955664
>She tries to keep up a defiant front but every day it gets easier and easier to make her cum
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>>736956090
Why does she have a Roman collar?
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>>736956090
Fat smelly Sangheili ass.
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>>736956528
Strategic target for female Spartans
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>>736916032
only them can be the chosen ones, okay?
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>>736957118
Only them were stupid and loyal enough to die for the cause.
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>>736921306
>You have no receipts.
"You ARE forerunner, but this ring is MINE"
play the games dude
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>>736941358
This one is machine and nerve and has its mind concluded.
>>736941528
This one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded.
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>>736936803
>anon knows he worships stupid shit
>gets threatened even when his beliefs aren't named
KEK
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>>736922967
thisthisthis
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>>736949209
Neither are low poly and 2d metroidvania indieslop
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>>736932681
You had hope when you first saw that infinite asset flip slop with sprint?
You are a golem
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>>736956090
hehe freckle butt
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>>736959702
More video game than your shit
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>>736923482
Humans are pretty much Jackal tier, so Jackal tier light armor + handheld shields.
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>>736959901
I don't like woke biblically accurate sangheili.
She should have large hanging udders
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>>736959972
I knew you were an indiefag steamslopper with a pc from 2007 lmao
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>>736960035
I play everything, Halo is a relic of its time, just like other games, Halo's job was to help FPS games on consoles. Problem is Halo's has two issues, the devs refusal to properly evolve the series, and Microsoft stagnating the industry with its dated controllers. Console shooters should have been becoming more like PC shooters, by this point, Nintendo and Sony have been pushing for that with their ever evolving controllers, Valve finally cracked the code on translating KB&M controls to a controller. Yet Microsoft is still stuck in 2001. There is a reason why Halo got left behind after a certain point and Microsoft is heavily to blame for that. Halo either needs to die now for real or get hard rebooted. Video games are evolving tech, if the tech companies doesn't want to evolve it, then said company should get out of everyone else's way.
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>>736960241
Non multiplayer fps are dead in general.
Halo is dead because it was always a single player/ couch co-op centric series
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>>736960363
It's dead because it ran its course and no, singleplayer FPS games never died, you're just stuck playing AAA slop because you think it's beneath you to play anything less.
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>>736960426
Upgrade your pc for the love of god, play RE9 instead of your indie troonslop
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>>736960482
I will play everything except western AAA slop, especially garbage made by Microsoft.
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>>736959981
Not spartans. Spartans can destroy Brutes with ease even bare handed (provided they're still in armor)
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>>736916685
if there was no circumcision, then no
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>>736950571
Coastal highway (the escort section) and Kikowani station are fun for the first time you play them, but they're a fucking slog on repeat playthroughs. Still love ODST though
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>>736916032
Humans were pretty much the chosen people and would have superceded the prophets in the religion.
>"FOR EONS I HAVE WATCHED, LISTENED TO YOU MISINTERPRET"
>"THIS IS NOT RECLAMATION. THIS IS RECLAIMER AND THOSE IT REPRESENTS ARE MY MAKERS"
>"I WILL REJECT MY BIAS AND MAKE AMENDS. MY MAKERS ARE MY MASTERS. I WILL BRING THEM SAFELY TO THE ARK"
From Harvest.
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>>736960882
Humans are Forerunners.
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>>736961020
Yes? That's literally what these lines state.
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>>736916952
>>736916971
>>736918035
>>736918030
>The San'Shyuum who would become the High Prophets of the Halo games era woke Mendicant Bias on High Charity (during the events of first contact with humans on Harvest). They got told that their religion was horseshit and that he was going to go find the real Reclaimers (humans). The prophets recognized that this truth would cause a revolution that would break the Covenant Empire, so they prevented the key ship from leaving High Charity. They overthrew the previous High Prophets which they had already been plotting to do, started a new age, and called for total human death to keep this truth hidden, securing their power and keeping the Covenant together.

Why did 343 retcon this in Halo 4
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Reminder that nu-Halo retconned the Forerunners being ancient humans, therefore both making humans lame and removing any reason for the prophets to have so much jealousy and hatred towards mankind.

All because 343's lead writer was butthurt that his headcanon was rejected in the old games, he wanted the Forerunners to be aliens because humans being cool is heckin problematic.
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>>736961239
Wasn't Didact in the terminals?
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>>736961197
Frank O'Connor was on his own page compared to everyone else when it came to writing the terminals in Halo 3, and management didn't bother to correct him, which is what initially created the discrepency between the game and the terminals. He was made the main writer when 343 was formed and remained on his own page, 343 has been scrambling to reconcile and overwrite things with Frank's canon ever since.
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>>736961197
>Why did 343 retcon this in Halo 4
A literal forum janny (really) was allowed to write fanfiction for Halo 3 terminals (easter eggs)
Because bungie's writers left with bungie, he was left behind and became the 343 writer for the Halo series.
So he got to turn the game into his fanfiction without resistance.
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>>736961365
I don't remember the specifics but yes, he put his shitty headcanon contradicting actual cutscenes and dialogue in terminals.

Then all the actual writers left, and this cunt was free to vandalize the lore in the new games.
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>>736961789
wait, so forerunners were ancient humans in the old games?
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>>736921306
any of the fags (especially you vein you fur nigger) trying to say that Bungie changed humans to not being forerunners forget Bungies canon policy at the time, which is as follows
> games>books
> new lore ALWAYS>old lore
what this means is that even books can trump games when they contradict previous lore as long as they are the newest source. and with contact harvest explicitly stating that humans are forerunner and not being contradicted until 343 took the reins, this means when strictly discussing Bungie lore and adhering to Bungie canon policy Staten got the last word in, humans are forerunners, and Frankie can go get fucked!
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>>736961871
Yes.
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>>736961871
It was something Bungie was going for with Combat Evolved, they pulled back on it and left it ambiguous in Halo 2, then came back to the idea with Halo 3, except for O'Connor. Guilty Spark heavily alluded to it with several of his lines in Combat Evolved, if not outright said it.
>But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?
>Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?! Last time you asked me: If it were my choice, would I do it? Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.
>You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history is it? Fascinating.
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>>736951152
I'm not on a phone and I don't own a phone. It was all my retarded brain.
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>>736962021
>>736962052
Well that's boring. I always thought of the forerunners as some mysterious alien race, but saying humans were at the dyson sphere-level of technology and still couldn't defeat a shitty parasite is an even more lame and boring trope. (though aliens also jobbing to the parasite is equally retarded)

It does make sense based on the cutscenes and guilty spark dialogue, sure. But its boring af. Just like when we finally saw them in Halo 4, took away all the mystery and the magic. But anything not made by bungie is even more of a retarded fanfiction so to me, chief is still sleeping while drifting in space
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>>736962392
It's the story of Noah's Ark turned into sci-fi, that "shitty parasite" wasn't called the FLOOD for nothing. It makes zero sense for the Forerunners to have been aliens when you keep the series strong biblical references in mind.
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>>736961239
Halo 3 was dogshit and had humanity teaming up with the fucking parasites. I'm glad whatever the fuck that clusfterfuck did was ignored.

People actually wanted thaty reveal for Halo? "Oh you humans were the very thing the covenant was worshipping all along. Time to roll the credits after this epic revelation"
Fuck off bitch.
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>>736961871
No, never. They left it vague on purpose. And you could tell there was rule to leave it without answer because the book that came out after Halo 3, didn't provide that answer.
And eventually, they steered it into the direction of Forerunner being a completelly different species.
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>>736962392
>The humans were masters of the universe? Erm that's lame, xhere are my reddit aliens?
>>736962503
Yes, you gigantic tranny, the kikes (prophets) were so deluded in their talmudic beliefs that they worshipped the very people they hated, humans. That's a great plot twist, both tragic from the perspective of the covenant and grandiose from the perspective of mankind.

But enjoy your Mass Effect tier ancient aliens that you've already seen 50000 times in other settings.
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>>736916032
Surprised nobody has answered this yet
>Prophet aliens find forerunner tech on their planet. They see this as a sign they were chosen by higher beings to lead the galaxy
>Use tech to visit other planets and recruit aliens
>Prophets have weird culture of inbreeding which caused the entire prophet species to become weak. Prophets cope by saying it's because they'll soon no longer need their flesh once they've ascended
>Things going well. Lots of ayys join the covenant, they found an Ark on a small moon which they hollowed out, built a massive city around and called it High Charity
>Covenant finds humanity at some point. Prophets meet humans and make horrible discovery that the humans are actually descendants of the forerunner and therefore the chosen ones, not the prophets
>Prophets go FULL damage control and order extermination of humans because their mere existence invalidates the entire covenant belief
That's basically it. Also it's why Tartarus needed Maranda keyes to activate the ring and why Guilty Spark acts like Chief should already know about forerunner stuff.
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>>736962642
Don't give (You)s to retards acting out for attention
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>>736962449
I guess that makes sense, yeah. Still, humans finding godtier ancient technology felt way cooler in my head all these years, but I'll concede that it makes more sense for it to have been humans all along. Just gotta process it, I guess
>>736962642
>The humans were masters of the universe
It just feels too egocentrical to be interesting, that's all
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>>736962392
…when said parasite is smarter than you, can get any intel wants from the infected, and can turn said dyson sphere-level technology against you it makes sense why they won and the forerunners needed to wipe the slate clean with halo.
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>>736962642
I'm sorry but I already seen The Planet of the Apes. I'm not interested in another twist like that one. Calling me a "tranny" won't change anything.
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Where the Elite women at?
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>>736962737
It also makes me wonder, where did the flood even come from? It just seems too OP, honestly
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>>736962797
Getting headshot.
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After a couple hours under a Elite woman's ass I believe many people could be brought over to the Covenant's side.
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If this is reddit, then call me the biggest redditor out there because I loved reading it.
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>>736962826
>where did the flood even come from?
Super ancient aliens who pre-dated the forerunners turned themselves into powder.
Ancient humans fed the powder to their dogs (yes, really, that's what you do with ancient alien powder lmao) which turned them into flood.
Yes, they retconned a biblical reference turned space-zombie-horror into 'whoops shouldn't have fed alien dust to our pets'
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>>736962826
under Bungie it’s a mystery, the only clues to its origin is the Forerunners own in-universe speculation that it came from outside the galaxy and judging from the Graveminds voicelines the Forerunners have done something to personally wrong it since it considers itself to be the “monument to all our sins” and that it never deserved its fate we imposed on it.
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>>736919992
There's a reason why Halo exploded like it did,beyond the gameplay pretty much mindbreaking consoleplayers and having pretty good graphics and music for the time. It sort of unintentionally took advantage of the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks and the wave of patriotism that came from that.
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The real needler mystery is how do you even reload it?
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>>736963504
You uh, you um, you... You shake it and the needles grow longer...?
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>>736963504
You open it up, jam in the big pink crystal, and close it!
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>>736963504
stumped even the greatest of humanities minds
>pic from dr.halsey’s journal
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>>736916032
>>736916032

the entire conflict started because a grunt saw the "Reclaimer" symbol on a galactic scanners, and the planets marked as Reclaimers were inhabited by humans. (the book Contact Harvest)

The Prophets saw this as a threat to their power, and instead of acknowledging humanity as the forerunner's chosen heirs, they twisted their theology to view humanity has heretics treading on sacred ground.
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>>736916032
Humans wouldn't submit to them is why.
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>>736950192
this made me laugh
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for me, it's the space pirate murder rape & pillage birds
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>>736964421
She's lying by the way, she saw you coming a mile off and "coincidentally" found herself in your path
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>>736924232
I swear marines were just weaker overall in 2 and im more than willing to blame the shittier armor
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>>736964421
Fun Fact: Kig-Yar are matriarchal
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>>736959794
The only asset flips are shit like the Elites which looked fine in Infinite and Chief's MkV which everybody agreed looked great and was one of the best selling skins.
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>>736964421
>Infinite made it canon that Jackal Stalkers are all female
Based
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>>736962875
it was alright, but at the same time still comes with the caviat of the forerunner retcons, that and how 343 mishandled the didact
>make your entire marketing for 4 around having a forerunner back
>kill him off
>but then bring him back in a comic (which also kills off another spartan team)
>but then kill him off again in one of the dumbest deaths (all so you can bring back cortana after you killed her off, followed by her getting killed off again)
>ends up in tech heaven just chilling with his old enemy, both of them just watching the shitshow (which is also another retcon since said space heaven wasn't supposed to be there also explaining why he was really mad)
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>>736964421
>>736965078
>>736964725
>ywn be captured by a rogue ship of kig-yar and forced to pleasure them day and night without rest because something something human men
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do Sangheili lay eggs for reproduction?
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>>736964421
Jackals look like they smell really bad.
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>>736966286
All aliens look like they smell bad. That's why you should stick with your own species



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