NVIDIA WON
>>736923172buy an ad
>>736923190seething indian
>>736923190Why would NVIDIA want to advertize their GPUs on this board full of third worlders who cannot afford them?
I only play games if the nude mods do not get me in legal trouble.
>>736923172They won when AMD decided that RT and DLSS were just memes that nobody would care about after a year like physX.They then won even harder when AMD decided to not have dedicated hardware for that for another 2 gens after they realized they were wrong.
>margin of error difference between 5070 Ti and 9070 XTseems fine to me?
>>736923172>RTX 5070 60fpsKek the PS5 has the same performance as a 1.5k PC for a third of the price
I remember when every youtuber was trying to say the 5070ti was the worst purchasing decision in human history
>>736923348no you don't understand you have to buy the more expensive card because it's green
>>736923390you're thinking about the 5070 not the 5070 ti
not much difference between 5060ti and 9060xt even though 9060xt is much cheaper card.safety say that radeon won
>>736923190>Steam related posts>buy an ad
>>736923435>>736923410Ok now put on DLSS Performance vs FSR Performance and compare the quality and FPS
>>736923361PS5 upscales the shit out of it, retard. You're comparing 480p with 4k native.
>>736923172>4kEww
>>736923348>>736923410>>736923435Now turn on ray tracing
>>736923390That was when AMD announced the 9070 XT would be $600 and just straight up lied about it.
>>736923494fsr4.1 is pretty much same as dlss from my experience
>>736923556This, we need 8k4k is too blurry
>>736923627No it's not, and AMD can't even run the game with path tracing on
>>736923650>path tracingHow do you grafixniggers always find yet another setting that gives you 1/4 the FPS while producing no visible difference?
>>736923590It's even closer
>>736923172>>736923723So that means 4070Ti S can run this at 2k 60fps?
>>736923172>5060ti 8gb gets more fps than the 16gb model
>>736923650games run and look good. what else you need? you don't even need fsr anyway because games run great without
>>736923723>>736923590Here the 9070 XT even beat the 5070 Ti
AMD WON
>>736923940Now post path tracing
>>736923817I never play a game with DLSS off it cuts power usage by like 50W+ most of the time with no downside
>>736923650>path tracingDo you own 4090 or 5090? Since they're the only GPUs somewhat capable of running path tracing at 1080p ~60 fps without frame gen and without sub-1080p upscaling.Bragging about that, while having GPU like 5070, is just saying>my unplayable shit is less shit than your unplayable shit
>>736923229pragmata and nvidia shilling is as indian as it gets
>>736923718There is a difference with PT and there's no reason a 9070 XT can't run it. It will probably be patched in later once they implement AMD's Ray Regeneration. Probably already can force it with REFramework but I bet it looks like ass without RR which is why its disabled.
>5060 Ti 8GB is better than 5060 Ti 16GBWhy?
>>736923328It's been over 5 years and I still think it's a meme
>>736924253some strange issue in the game as noted in the reviewif it's not a bug then the game might just be lowering quality on 8gblet gpu to save it from killing itself
And what would have won? The 9070xt offers the same performance at $300-$400 less than the 5070ti. Path tracing isn't usable on solutions lower than the 5090, and always with DLSS enabled (resolutions lower than native), so it's as if it didn't exist. Let's leave aside the fact that it's full of RTX mirror spam, as explained in the conclusions. So, again, what would have won? In the gullible marketing department, for sure.
>>736924253Quality drivers from a 5 trillion dollar company>A striking anomaly shows up here: the RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB is dramatically slower than the 8 GB model at every resolution—53 vs. 71 FPS at 1080p (-25%), 35 vs. 48 FPS at 1440p (-27%), and 18 vs. 25 FPS at 4K (-28%). This pattern of 16 GB models underperforming their 8 GB counterparts also appears in the rasterization and ray tracing benchmarks, though the gap is much smaller there (3–10%). >The cause is unclear—it could be a driver issue, a game bug related to VRAM allocation behavior, or an interaction between path tracing and the larger memory configuration.
>5080>16 GB because Ti version was in the works before the rampocalypse>falling for the scam of the century
>>736924074I played path tracing 1440p on RE Requiem and it was good. Looks like Pragmata will run about 70-80 FPS on 1440 DLSS Balanced on a 5070ti and you can easily get 120 FPS with frame gen
>>736923361>snoys actually believe thisreminds me when they kept saying a ps5 was as powerful as a 3090 kek
Okay since all 10 retards who still care about graphics are here: Why do modern games force me to use that AI anti-aliasing? I played FF16 this year and it was impossible to get rid of the ghosting and blurriness. Why not just give me the option to turn on some of the AA techniques we've had for 20 years?
>>736923624Yeah, it sucks that AMD has not been able to hold their cards to MSRP, but lets not pretend that Nvidia has been any better pricing wise. At my local Microcenter the cheapest 9070xt is $690, while the cheapest 5070 ti is $970 right now. Newegg is showing a similar price difference - $710 for the 9070xt vs $1000 for the cheapest 5070 ti. Being more than $250 cheaper is reasonable for the performance and feature difference.
>>736924592you don't have to use "AI" anti-aliasingyou can use the basic bitch TAA or disable it entirelyif you want worthless slop that doesn't do anything in modern games like FXAA/SMAA then use reshade
>>736924748>you can use the basic bitch TAA or disable it entirelyI did. There was still ghosting around character feet. Even in fucking cutscenes, by the way>need a mod to have your games not look like garbageI guess so
>>736924604I don't know what its like now but back during launch it was far easier for me to get a 5070 Ti at MSRP than a 9070 XT for less than $700. I had alerts set up on Discord and with stock apps and literally nothing would show up for AMD until like 5 months later and by then I had already bought and sold my 5070 Ti and bought a 5090.
>>736924801well then you're shit out of luck, I tried the demo at 4k using DLAA and it was good enough for me
>>736923429No it was the 5070 ti. Just search 5070ti reviews on youtube.
I'm content playing at native 1440p max settings with my 9070xt. Path Tracing is very cool, but I don't think it'll be worth it until you can use it without frame gen and ai upscaling.
>>736923172>3840x2160>Max settings>3060 ti gets 36 fpsWhat magic is this? Developers actually optimising in anno domini or just frame gen?
>>736923172Why are Americans the only ones who make technology?
>>736923190have a sex, incel
>>736924880Good for you, but you're wrong. That shit is impossible to turn offRandom timestamp cause I'm not autismal enough to record videos myself https://youtu.be/4fk2N38hqxY?t=26422Look at dude's feetOr in the scene before, how completely blurry Vivian's face becomes once the cutscene stops being zoomed in on her
>>736925101ah I thought you were talking about pragmata, sorry I never played ff16 as I have no interest in it
>>736924307Good thing you don't matter and never will.
>>736925101I just realized most people don't notice it because they keep on motion blur like idiots
lol
>>736925162Well, then you're a silly billy and should stop speed-reading posts
>>736924928>framegen to get to 36 fpsretard
>>736923172A-arcbros...
>>736923624>That was when AMD announced the 9070 XT would be $600 and just straight up lied about it.There was a pretty good period last fall when you could get 9070XTs for MSRP. I grabbed my Hellhound for ~$630 before tax after hearing there were going to be price hikes during the winter and start of 2026. Launch was a shitshow though with GayMD doing the Njudea standard trick of undersupplying every retailer and merchant, and stretching my memory further, there was also some trickery in regards to subsidizing the merchants at the $600 pricepoint for a limited time using a set amount of waivers. >>736924928Pragmata runs "well" since it's the REengine being used for its correct purpose for a change, small rooms and hallways.
>>736924413Was there genuinely any reason the 5080 only had 16gb of vram? Was 24 really too much for $1,000 gpu?
>>736925262so we should buy 8gb 9060XT cards now?shalom
>>736925262>0.11 fps/$ but you only have $2 to your namesimply ebin xD
>>736923172THANK YOU NVIDIA
>>736925404no. the 9060xt is the worst dumbdumb
>>736923172Now divide the FPS by USD price of the GPU.
>>736925262>8gb versions of 9060xt and 5060ti getting more frames than their 16gb counterparts.Why?
>>736925262They must have messed up on the 9060xt 16gb. It should be higher then the 8gb version lol
>>736925404no, the 9070 mogs everything on that chartyou'd be retarded to overinvest in gpus now, when next gpu gen will be the one consoles are based on
>>736925505but it gets the most frames per dorraxD
>>736924413Almost didn't get the 5080 because it didn't have at least 20 GB of VRAM.
>>736925564Personal asspull explanationMore vram modules next to each other equals more heat so something underclocks in the gpu maybe the vram memory clock or the core clocks due to higher heat.
>>736923172I think what we’ve learned With Pragmata and Crimson Desert is that other devs need to start tuning UE5 if they’re going to keep using it.
>>7369257653090 ti has the biggest bar therefore it's the best
>>736925765how old is this? those prices are severely outdated, see >>736925262
>>736925973I got it to use the RRP.
>>736926014that's a shit metric then
>>736926046I don't care. I didn't do it to gain your aproval
>5070>At 1080pGood to know I'll be fine.
>>736926078what's the point of comparing prices if they're not real world prices?
>>736926146they were launch prices.
>>736926189>wereyes, that's why using them is irrelevantyou can find the cheapest price of every gpu within seconds on pcpartpicker
>>736923830Arcbros...
>>736926290well I paid £1700 for a 3090 and give it away. Should the price be £0?To keep it matched I used RRP. If that isn't good enough for you then as I've posted earlier I don't care. I didn't do it for your approval.
>>736925168Exactly why gachas are dominating the market
>>736926371no, the price should always be from the perspective of a new buyer, that's the point of benchmarksthat's why you use current prices
>>736923172impressive, very nicenow add the MSRPs
>>736926542see >>736925262
>>736926476too much variation. A 5090 cost near £3700 here a few weeks ago, not it's £3000. Which store are you talking about? Which sale or offer is the correct one which you'd be pleased with. How about this. You ago and fuck off you whining little faggy twat and go find something else to be triggered and bitch about?
>>736926476The perspective of a new buyer is you should have bought a card a year ago. PC gaming is closed until 2028.
>>736926563thanks famalam
>>736926583>too much variation, i don't want to use bad data>uses bad data that's completely irrelevant to the current state of the marketpcpartpicker always shows you the cheapest new card model you can getit's not hard, you're just lazy and retarded
>>736926332>it can run the game and can even do RTSeems good.
>>736926616it's really notthe recent price hikes to consoles have effectively brought console and pc price to performance in line
>>736923650Ah yes, we're now back to the good ol' Njudea tricks, when you can't compete, lock the features away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq1QdlQSzn0NVIDIA DELIVERS, AYYMDEAD DROOLS ABOUT PATH TRACING
>>736925282I've been using a reshade TAA (with motion vectors) variant in older games that doesn't have some fucked up ghosting like most TAA shit games useI wonder if it would do better for ff16
my poor poor 3080
>>736923791yes
>>736923172I don't know a single person who has an nVidia GPU.
>>736927212its still kickin. gotta settle with RT
>>736923172I got tired of intel judaism so I switched to an amd cpu and then switched to an amd 7900 xtx from my nvdea 1080ti. I know nothing about cards, it just works I guess. Definitely an upgrade from my 2017 build
>nvidia moves forwards>amd moves backwardsImagine buying a newer GPU and it's a downgrade to the one you already have.
>>736927698nvidia's drivers are certainly moving backwardsimagine having to memorise your driver version
>>7369244135080, even 5070ti should have been 20 or 24gb.
are normal people even allowed to buy a 5090 anymore
>>736927751AMDians don't need to know their driver number, they just use the one driver that has been released in the last 20 years
>>736927886Define a normal person.
>>736928026Me in my underwear attempting to buy it online.
>>736923172So you are telling me that my 9070XT gets 90% the performance for 70% the price? Nice
>>736925397GDDR7 is super duper expensive if you haven't heard by now. They straight up cancelled the super series because the vram is too expensive.
>>736923172>pedomatanow post a relevant game
>>736928116Sure, just expect to pay nearly double the MSRP. No big deal.
>>736923172my trusty 3060TI still showing up at the very bottom on those 4k max settingsso i think that upscaled at 2k and med/high settings i should be able to lock 60fps on the loli shoulder simulatorim gonna ride this fucking gpu until it catches on fire
NVIDIA WO-ACK
>>736925564>>736925693the card and core are like a series of tubes. 16gb on that tiny core is adding a t-connection to the series of tubes causing congestion.
>>736923172Computer, turn off fake frames and measure it again.
>rugpullwhy would they hide this now? what the fuck is this
Nvidcucks getting ready for their instagram filters and cuck braces
>>736930023>Just to confirm here: Capcom changed their rules apparently around Friday and nobody told us. They switched to require "PC tech feature coverage using a single GPU configuration may be published", which was never mentioned before in their guidelines ... sorry about thatDamn, would suck if everyone didn't already copied the graphs around here. Especially stupid since it shows that the game runs great.
>>736930023Nvidia got upset. Don't worry the day one patch will add a tessellated moon ocean.