Movie community when a movie gets remade>the 2 movies are products of their times and are different from one another>ideally you should watch both, or at least the originalVideo-Game community when a game gets remade>dude why waste time playing the old unc game, just play the shiny new one, its 100 times better>no, of course I didnt play the OGThat's the difference between a true-art medium and cheap entertainmentslop for the masses.That's why Video-Games will always be seen as toys, Roger Ebert was right.Pic-related.
>>736923920everyone knows video games arent art, they are a sport
>>736923920Children don't have any valuable input on whether a work is good or not. Anyway, there are plenty of movie remakes that specifically piss off people who liked the original. Every Disney cartoon live action remake, and the Robocop remake, for example.
>>736923920dont care about unc slopremake is better
>>736924071Nah, some "people" get pretty upset when people say that Movie-Games and tranime JRPGs are not art.
Being 32 years old I now realize how much of a hack 4chan is. I remember countless threads about how dogshit RE4 was becasue of QTEs and "muh RE horror soul." Now you have literal zoomers and revisionist millenials thinking and saying that OG RE4 "uuuh ackshually it was a classic and always had so much sUoL." You niggers will forever complain about everything and anything because you miss being a faggot 13 year old with hopes and dreams with low IQ and low standars and now you are finally realize life is shit and you have fucking bills to pay. Grow the fuck up holy shit, the world could be on fire and somehow you fags will still be here complaining about modern video games and trannies.If i live to be 80 years old I can't wait to visit this dogshit website to see the grown up zoomers claiming how much "soul" the PS5 era used to have and how we'll never have a game like faggot Elden Ring. Hopefully I'll be dead by then so I don't have to sit and see Synthetic Man gaytuber make a "(((blank company))) is creatively bankrupt" for the 400th time.
>>736925176this so much on g. i havent played og btw
>>736926289>Being 32 years old I now realize how much of a hack 4chan is. I remember countless threads about how dogshit RE4 was becasue of QTEs and "muh RE horror soul." Now you have literal zoomers and revisionist millenials thinking and saying that OG RE4 "uuuh ackshually it was a classic and always had so much sUoL."This is true, but I honestly prefer RE4 over the older games. RE4, Onimusha and Dino Crisis 2 are my favorites and they all focus more on action.
>>736923920This industry's eagerness to pave over its past/history while the majority of fans and journalists cheer it on does say something about the maturity level of the average gamer and industry "leaders". This medium is shit and as far from true art as you can get.
>>736926697Except all the original RE games are available for purchase on every major platform and several were released for purchase after the remakes were released.Resident Evil is maybe the worst example you could give for trying to pave over the past, not only can you buy the originals but the newer games have constant references to those original games.
>>736926289yeahi bet most anons that suck off og re 4 didnt touch it for years and maybe even had mixed feelings about it before the remake came out
>>736923920>the 2 movies are products of their times and are different from one another>ideally you should watch both, or at least the originalno one says this, especially about remakes made in the past twenty years
>>736923920>>the 2 movies are products of their times and are different from one another>>ideally you should watch both, or at least the originalENTER
Do remake fags have any argument that isn't built on falsehood? People have been saying since Day 1 of Hollywood remakes that it is the worst trend in the industry, very few good things have EVER come out of it.
>>736926841I literally played RE4 a couple years ago. And it was my first experience with it. Despite the PC port being kinda shit I thought it was a very fun and soulful game that balanced action, cheesy B-horror shit and creepy moments pretty damn well. The demake menwhile is genuinely shit. It butchers the atmosphere of the old game and like the other RE demakes wants to be all "grown up and mature" while seemingly being ashamed of the cheesy B-horror nature the series had. Not to mention the censorship and edits that were done to please the "modern audience" especially with Ashley. Also Leon just walking into a spanish person's home talking in english was hilarious, fuck the sensitive twitter faggots and retards at capcom for changing it to please the latinx folx.Anyways, gonna emulate RE4 sometime for the full experience.
>>736926815>Except all the original RE games are available for purchase on every major platformFor now. You already have Capcom bosses questioning a store why they would want the originals over the demakes.The algorithm/wiki's/online discussion is also completely dominated by demakes now. Paving over the past is real and it's only going to get worse with time.
Most of the people defending the original have never played it.
>>736927175Literally me here dumbass >>> >>736927126
>>736927154That response from capcom was so eye opening. I've not been a 'fan' of a capcom for a long time but that really revealed them for the soulless corporation as they are, they're no different from Activision, Ubisoft or EA.
>>736927154They just released the original RE2 and 3 to storefronts like two weeks ago.
>>73692708412 Monkey is a remakeVanilla Sky is a remakeI am Legend is a remakeScarface is a remakeThe departed is a remakeThe Birdcage is a remakeThe Fly is a remakeScent of a Woman is a RemakeA Fistful of Dollars is a remakeAnd all those movies are on probably the best movies ever made, you notice that this is a zoomer problem when they only complain about remakes past 2010.
>>736924071Video games are art. They're interactive art.
>>736923920Movie buffs would literally just kill you for praising any Hollywood remake.
>>736926486>Dino Crisis 2 are my favorites and they all focus more on action.I enjoyed Dino Crisis 1 a lot and remember moving on to 2 and being very surprised at the contra-like action style with that points system. It was very clear Capcom thought the survival horror experience was losing popularity fast and sought to transform their games into more action orientated products.
>>736923920I played both the original and remake and can say the remake is better.
>>736926289>/v/ is a hivemind
>>736923920Do you ever get bored of making the same RE4 remake thread and arguing with yourself every day
>>736923920Yeah I was a classic BioShock proves games are art crowd, but it's just too silly to pretend now. Art should not be this disposable and when other mediums are remade or adapted or whatever "go experience the original" is always the number one suggestion Video games is the one time it's not
>>736927912me at the back 'miring george's hair as I hold on to the last vestiges of my hairline
>>736927175That's just not true and a cope. Re4 original was a massive success, ported to everything, and for 2 decades everyone agreed it played perfectly fine and aged like wineThan the remake comes out and woah now suddenly it's a clanky pice of shit blah blah blah blah to justify consuming product
>>736926289>Grow the fuck up holy shit, the world could be on fire and somehow you fags will still be here complaining about modern video games and tranniesThe world is literally on fire you fucking kike, and it's because of the same reason that modern video games suck.
>>736926815+1 Izzat
This ship has long since sailed and Capcom fans will just crucify you for besmirching their sacred cows. He should’ve done a video about SH2R or the DeS remake if he wanted to expose how shit and lazy remakes are without getting instantly shouted down by an angry mob.
>>736927739>very few good things have EVER come out of itOf course the person who would make a statement as retarded as OP would be part of the '3 movies a year' crowd who is also unable to read. You have 9 examples (not even 9 good examples, to be honest) when there are hundreds upon hundreds of other shitty remakes. You're the cattle that remakes are made for, so no wonder you enjoy them so much.
>>736927126i had the inverse experience with it the remake improves a lot of the weaknesses of the original especially the controls>Not to mention the censorship and edits that were done to please the "modern audience" especially with Ashley.ashley was annoying as fuck in the original im glad they changed herthe only bad change was adas shit voice>Also Leon just walking into a spanish person's home talking in english was hilarious, fuck the sensitive twitter faggots and retards at capcom for changing it to please the latinx folx.why does such a minor change trigger you so hard? most of your issues seem to be cringe infowarrior niggery
>>736927739>Vanilla SkyVanilla Sky is fucking garbage.
>>736923920Both of your examples are gay little strawmen and both movies and games are not art because of the simple fact they get remade.Get a drug problem.
>>736923920It really is disturbing how eager, almost desperate people are to worship the new just because it is new. They become furious when you do not agree that the new thing is better.I think they know on some level that things are not good right now. They fight tooth and nail to avoid acknowledging that anything from the past could possibly be better, because then they can no longer ignore their despair.
>>736928225>The world is literally on fire you fucking kike, and it's because of the same reason that modern video games suck.because anti-woke tards work together with out of touch boomers to ruin the world?
>>736926289>Grow the fuck up holy shit, the world could be on fire and somehow you fags will still be here complaining about modern video games and trannies.Imagine being this determined to ignore how all this shit connects.
I'm waiting on Pat and Wolloe's response. Otherwise they will be enshrined in the HOAD due to Crowbcat alongside all other Capcom-paid shills.
>>736928430>It really is disturbing how eager, almost desperate people are to worship the new just because it is new. They become furious when you do not agree that the new thing is better.literally the opposite on 4chan and many other sites even reddit became contrarian as is the normal maturing process because new = my current life and its hardships = bad Old = my carfree childhood = goodnostalgia blinds you tards
Why is it so hard for people to see both OGRE4 and RE4R as good games in their own right?I love OGRE4.I love RE4R too, but for different reasons.
>>736928445You forgot to mention a certain group of people who manipulates and controls those two.
>>736928445>anti-woke tards>out of touch boomersSuddenly your desperate defense of the new and haste to tear down the old makes sense.
>>736928576yes goy, consoom the new thing based on the old thing and pay us more than you did the first time around
>>736928430Zoomers want to experience the feeling of belonging by experiencing the classics everyone praises, but they don't actually want to play them.
>>736928576reddit is currently having a melty over the latest crowbcat video and mass downvoting anyone who agrees with it.
>>736928583>why can't you guys just be good goycattle who praises new thing for what it isBecause it says REMAKE on the cover and when you create expectations you have to fulfill then
>>736928583>OGRE4Literally kill yourself.
>>736923920Even more stupid when neither game is anything special. Tired of demakes.
>>736928576>new = my current life and its hardships = bad Old = my carfree childhood = goodYou always pull out this same argument, and not only has it never had any basis in reality, it is nothing more than projection.You are determined to blind yourself to the problems of the day, and you will go through any number of mental gymnastic routines to do it.You are inherently hostile to anybody who points out these problems, and makes it harder for you to pretend they don't exist.You just want to numb yourself, and anybody who threatens that stirs an anger in you that not even you understand.But on some level, you do. You just can't acknowledge it, because deep down you are terrified.
/v/ lost again
>>736923920>That's why Video-Games will always be seen as toys, Roger Ebert was right.This is the black pill about RE4 remake's reception. Games can be art, but gamers at large will simply not allow that to happen.
>>736923920Nobody watches the original versions of The Thing or Scarface anymore
>>736923920Remake fans have been consistent with the message: Both games are good, 0lay both, but Remake is the better game.OG fans shit and piss their pants and refuse to even play the superior remake. All of the tantrum and butthurt is coming from the childish OG purists. Only a Remake fan appreciates both games because they have good taste in games and aren't retarded.
I really really REALLY hate this fucking place and all of you fucking crack smoking gorilla nigger motherfuckers I swear to god.I will fucking DDOS this place by myself if I'll see one more fucking thread about the fucking cuckbcat video seething over 4R you stupid monkey cunt retards
>>736928691>re 4 on release in 2005 costs 50$ >50$ in 2005 is 86,58$ purchasing power nowdays>remake 4 is 60$ dollar current day also did you know that you dont need to buy stuff like the soundtrack or costumes?
>>736928583You can like both, but OP is correct about the cultural erasure problem.
>>736923920Define art
People are having meltdowns because they know he's right. If it was just a shitpost you would laugh and move on but it's hard to not see how much better the original lighting and environments are and the gameplay of remake looks terrible when enemies don't react to being shot.
>>736928947Because they are completely different films and only have superficial similarities beside the title.
>>736928730But what are those expectations?>>736928774Fine, I'll just call it "RE4" (because you are technically correct, and that is what it is), happy?
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>>736928730>it says REMAKE on the coverno it doesn’t>>736928774RE4 >>>>>>>> RE4 (2005) cry about it
Most Muttmericans don't even know that Abre tus ojos even exists. That's how evil these parasites are.
>>736928691Did you notice his defense was yet another deflection>you don't have to buy it>it doesn't matter that content was cut and sold back to you>it doesn't matter that the title call is paid DLC>it doesn't matter that the real music is paid DLC>it doesn't matter that there are pay to win items for a singleplayer game
>>736923920To be honest anon, I don't think it's about movies versus games. It's just more prevalent in games because it's a newer medium.Most movie remakes came out before this shift to unprecedented consumerism. But movie remakes and sequels today are treated the same way, more or less. You MUST worship them or you are a sad, angry, negative person who is incapable of liking anything. Eternal, meaningless consumption is the new model for not only the economy, but society. By nature, society has to be hostile to anything which threatens that.
>>736928967Good morning sir.
Why does critiquing 4make specifically garner such an incredibly emotional response? I don’t remember everyone losing their minds to this degree over people pointing out all the cut stuff from 2make or just taking a general dump all over 3make.
>>736929103>includes the year of release for the original but not for the demake
>>736928886>You always pull out this same argument, and not only has it never had any basis in reality, it is nothing more than projection.>You are determined to blind yourself to the problems of the day, and you will go through any number of mental gymnastic routines to do it.>You are inherently hostile to anybody who points out these problems, and makes it harder for you to pretend they don't exist.>You just want to numb yourself, and anybody who threatens that stirs an anger in you that not even you understand.>But on some level, you do. You just can't acknowledge it, because deep down you are terrified.write as much as you want deep down you know that i am rightold people hate new stuff you just saw the world through your rose glasses back then its just natural to hate things that challenge your old view
>>736928984>I will fucking DDOS this place by myselfdo it pussy
>>736929039The section of his video that showed the responses to the last one was very telling. They are ANGRY that he doesn't like it. They don't want to be forced to think that it might be bad.They'll probably come around in a few more years, when they have some emotional distance from it and it no longer threatens their worldview to admit that it wasn't so great. By then, there will be some new pillar of consumption to temporarily anchor their identities to.The guy in the video who spoke about them viewing it as a social event explains the hysterical hype phenomenon. But I think the hostility comes from something deeper-seated. It's fear, and the desperation to avoid acknowledging that fear.
>>736929320When I say RE4 it’s obvious I’m talking about the definitive version, there’s no point.
>>736928967>OG fans shit and piss their pants and refuse to even play the superior remake.How many fans of the remake have played the original?
>>736929103What the fuck is this then?>>736929090That it maintains at worst and improves at best the quality experienced in the original, which is not something the remake does at all
>>736923920>Movie community when a movie gets remade>>the 2 movies are products of their times and are different from one another>>ideally you should watch both, or at least the original
>>736929436So you don't care about accuracy.
>>736929321Boomers are like 100x times wealthier than Zoomers and those young people will never catch up. This is happening because of intensely evil people who justify this bullshit, like you.
>>736929321I like new things that are good.They haven't been good for a while. That's why old things that are good are torn down and thrown under the bus: to make the bad new things look better.The world is becoming shittier, anon. This frightens you as it frightens me. But the best way to fight it is to stop pretending it's not happening.
>>736929396I think they are deathly afraid of having to play old games or learning to use emulators. They are comfortable just consuming products the corporation provides to them.
>>736923920The graphics of reality didn't improve since the old movies, and they also didn't force you to turn the entire chair if you wanted to look at something at the edge of the screen.
>>736929493>old good new badJust make some new things that are good, dude. That is all you have to do to convince people.It shouldn't be too hard. Right?
Uncs be like>”Broooooo you need to play the original it’s so much better than the “de”make!!!”>the original in question
>>736929039I don't like yellow paint, but I understand its purpose. RE4, both the OG and the remake, are glorified corridor games with zero exploration. A visual aid to streamline forward progress in a game that is not designed to reward player exploration is a good design decision.Sidenote: the post del lago section of Remake up until cabin is actually the most exploration in either game. Remake actually mogs RE4 for exploration.In the OG there is a different form of yellow paint because all breakable objects with loot are literally glowing from weird lighting shenanigans. Some nerd knows the term, but they stick out in a way equally as obnoxious as yellow paint while also having even worse in universe justification as yellow paint unless you want me to believe Leon has fucked up detective vision from batman or some shit.OG retards have no legs to stand on other than the game being campy. That's a good leg to stand on, and it cements the OG as worth playing to experience it, but it is worse than the Remake by every other metric. It's utterly insane to me that anyone could prefer OG gunplay systems over the remake. And I fucking loved the OG when I was 13 and had a blast unlocking the hand cannon. In a world where remake exists I can't see myself ever playing the OG ever again. The first 20 times were enough, it's a great game, but it got mogged to hell by an even better game.
>>736929719What a retarded comment.
>>736929807The exploration isn't good in remake, more doesn't equal better. Dicking around looking for rats is actually terrible
>>736929736>Brrroooo the remake is so much better than the original!>Have I played the original? Lol no
>>736929807>there is a different form of yellow paintWhich is NOT yellow paint.
>>7369292403make was dogshit. Re4 remake is the best game in the entire RE franchise to date. Hope this helps you understand why it has passionate fans.
>>736929807>In the OG there is a different form of yellow paint because all breakable objects with loot are literally glowing from weird lighting shenanigans. Some nerd knows the termThey do have an odd glow to them, and that looks a lot less ridiculous than bright yellow paint being strewn everywhere.But it's more than the glow. There's actual visual and level design meant to draw your eye to things you're supposed to be focused on.They've abandoned that, hell they might not even know how to do it anymore. Everything just a cluttered mess now where the eye isn't drawn to anything. So the yellow point is used as a quick fix for something that really requires cleverer design.
>>736929807>explorationBuzzword at this point since zoomers think "more to do" equals good in a game that outright removes several of the original setpieces and moments just to replace it with more walking, killing rats and turning levers
>>736928913I can see why someone would say that but looking at his definition of art is where the problems start. These are quotes from his blog.>For example, I tend to think of art as usually the creation of one artist.>One obvious difference between art and games is that you can win a game.>Santiago might cite a immersive game without points or rules, but I would say then it ceases to be a game and becomes a representation of a story, a novel, a play, dance, a film. Those are things you cannot win; you can only experience them.This very quickly becomes an exercise in who's more autistic about their definitions. What is art? What is a game? What is winning? I'm not even trying to defend RE4R, RE4, games or art in general, this just seems like a really tedious topic and by the end no one would be better off for having it.
>>736929453The %age of players that have played both and prefer remake is much higher than the %age of playere that have player both and prefer OG. I would stake my life on it. The opinions of anyone who has only played one or the other does not matter.
Re4 remake is one of the few instances of a remake being better than the OG.I'm so fucking tired of nostalgiafags and crowbcat ballwashers pretending the remake sucks just because it's a remake.
>>736929702>I think they are deathly afraid of having to play old games or learning to use emulatorsnot even an issue. Resident Evil 4 is one of the few games available on literally every single console and pc port.
>>736927739Scarface is a re-adaptation of the same book, and it's completely different. Movie adaptations are their own thing and have artistic validity.
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEE MUH HECKIN TANKIRINO CONTROLS!!!!
>few years ago>stopped playing video games and coming to /v/>some day see RE4 Remake>try it as I loved RE4 and everyone claim it's a masterpiece>get bored a few hours in and think it's pretty meh>2026>come to /v/ again now that I have time to play>see people shitting on RE4 RemakeThanks god this place exist, I though I was the only one who disliked the remake.
>>736929321>old people hate new stuffResident Evil 4 remake is fundamentally not new. Your cognitive dissonance on this simple reality and lack of respect for the actual thing that you pretend to like, betrays your endless consumerist attitude.Admit that your favorite game is a soulless cash grab completely copied from a previous masterwork and that you like it because it's fun, not because it has any kind of creative integrity or represents an accomplishment. Stop attacking people who tell you that the remake isn't faithful and doesn't accurately provide the player with the experience of playing Resident Evil 4.tldr; sit down and shut up
>>736929467(I'm the second Anon you're replying to btw)Fair point, but it sounds like you’re judging it as a replacement rather than a reimagining.I see the Remake as a companion piece. Neither is objectively better, they just offer different flavors.
>>736930090I don't remember getting stuck anywhere in re4 original probably because I can fucking see. It didn't need yellow paint Jesus Christ in remake even with yellow paint shit is so dark a few times I missed something, why does modern media hates eyesight. I was watching some horror movie and it had a black actress and there were scenes I genuinely only could see her teeth
>>736929396Nobody likes being told that the way they experienced something was inherently invalid, or that they aren’t a real fan because xyz. It’s why watching gameplay instead of actually playing yourself has also been such a hot button topic of late.
>>736929807>It's utterly insane to me that anyone could prefer OG gunplay systems over the remake.The guns feel like shit and the movement feels even worse.> it is worse than the Remake by every other metricI can't think of a single metric where the remake is superior. Not a single one. EVERYTHING is worse to some degree. It's cool that you can quick-swap weapons and you get to fight Krauser instead of do a QTE cutscene. That's it.
>>736930190RE4 is available but other games like SH2 are not, and RE4 still requires learning a different control scheme that's unlike nu shooters.
>made a second long ass video showing SOUL of OG and SOULLESS of remake>bro u biased>OG is shitte remake is based >hater>unc play old ugly ps2 games >even on 4chanNext generation will play $100 sub based single player GAAS AI slop and will defend it.
>>736928913>gamers at large will simply not allow that to happenGamers at large aren't gamers, they're consumers chasing the latest consumption trend and using it to feel included, while they numb themselves against their unnameable fears.
>>736930258>and everyone claim it's a masterpieceNice history revision but 4chas archive exist, my redditbro. Go back and KYS.
>>736923920remake of movie are alway shit, i don't know what this post try to say
>>736930348>RE4 still requires learning a different control scheme that's unlike nu shootersType II has been an option for over a decade, filthy secondary
>>736930335Ashley segment was also better but anything is better than a generic slide puzzle.Yeah original re4 being patched in with a quick swap would have gone crazy
>>736930279>you’re judging it as a replacement rather than a reimaginingsigh
>>736929719They are afraid of those things but I think that's more a symptom than anything. But there is a general fear of having to think for themselves.
>>736930379They will play a RE4 Reremake in Roblox 2 that has the same controls and gunplay as Fortnite.
>>736930096I agree that arguing the boundaries of the term art is a tedious exercise in semantics, but in the case of RE4, if something can come out and be considered a masterpiece that defines a generation, yet two decades later it is considered obsolete by most people who enjoy the medium, it is too disposable to be considered art.I don't think RE4 is obsolete, mind you, it's a timeless masterpiece, but it is a commonly held opinion among the remake troons that it is unplayable by "modern standards". In a fickle environment like this, it is extremely difficult for art to flourish.RE4 is art, the remake is not.
>>736930449Learn to read. He said he stopped coming to /v/, and people were calling it a masterpiece everywhere else.But even on /v/ there were tons of people shilling for it.
>>736930495>Xbox 360 controller
>>736930379Next generation will have no say on what they like at all and they'll like that
>>736930569>They will play a RE4 Reremake in Roblox 2Black tranny doe? Ashley gotta be a black tranny or you can sneed it, uncFor the culture
>>736930510They were always meant to be replacements...
>>736930510But that's only the (misguided, I agree with you on that) view of the developers.The original is still there for us to play. No-one can take those away from us.
>>736929903>>736930093I'll clarify further. Exploration=branching pathways and player agency to voluntarily explore the area to receive optional rewards. Remake has more of that than the OG. And the reason is that the whole experience is basically a corridor. If the game was structured in a way that was more open 1. it would be a shittier game 2. the yellow paint would be a much bigger complaint. Because then a key gameplay component would be player agency and exploration. But the game is designed to hold W and so obnoxiously guiding the player is less of a sin. What are you going to discover bumping into walls? Nothing.
Next gen doesn't want this shit, least ones that actually like video games. A decade ago a retro trade in store was pretty rare, maybe one a city. My city now has like actually fucking 9 of them and I see kids in them all the time.Emulation is overall far more popular now too.
>>736930629>RE4 HD was released nearly 15 years ago on Xbox 360 with Type II>RE4 was originally released on a console>RE4 was originally played with a controller>he STILL thinks there's any excuse for "learning how to play" Resident Evil 4 in 2026
Since when did modernization become synonymous with homogenization. Just because a game has a different control scheme that you have to get used to doesn’t mean it’s “outdated” god I hate zoomers
>>736923920lol when a movie gets remade, the remake is always shit you retarded fag
>>736930765>The original is still there for us to play. No-one can take those away from us.That's only true for PC. If you think future CEO's will be porting every classic to the PS7 and beyond you're naive.Eventually there will be only demakes on consoles.
>>736930768RE4 was so linear because it was heavily inspired by straight action romps like Time Crisis 2 and House of the Dead 2. When Capcom remakes RE4 (again) in five years they will make it open world, fully missing the point of the original.
>>736930909Re4 only started to get called clunky when remake news started to come out. It's just a simple excuse to consume
>>736930850>>RE4 HDSo not the original release.
>>736930335Remake can actually create tense situations that require skill and feel amazing to overcome. Remake cabin sticks out here. In the OG you can just knock back entire crowds with one shotgun shell.The OG is so pissbaby easy that even brazillian dificulty mods can't figure out how to kill Leon. I've seen a brazillian mod that as a joke teleports you into a "room" the size of a closet with 8 modded increased health and speed super salvadors and no way out in any direction and even that is possible to overcome with basic weapons and no rocket launcher. The core gunplay of OG is fundamentally broken on a level that cannot even be balanced by Brazil's finest attempts at making the game "difficult".
>>736926959studios try to make soft reboots instead now, to lure in old fans
>>736930765Do you understand that these are the people who make these games? It is extremely telling about the way these games came out that they were always designed with this level of disrespect to the originals in mind, so why the fuck would I want to be nice and passive about them and extend a Star Wars fan level olive branch to this weird spiting of what made this franchise and company who they are. Fuck the devs and fuck the people who allow them to do this, because I assure you Cap. com wouldn't be creating these cash grabs if the cash wasn't being grabbed.
>>736930947You think the average console buyer is enough of an enthusiast to really care? For the most part Capcom isn’t even wrong, most people don’t give a fuck about games from 20/30 years ago and the few people who do will always find a way to play them through the power of autism anyway. The sales speak for themselves, remakes won the culture battle and resisting the wave is just hopeless.
>>736930947And so we bring them forwards ourselves.We keep them alive through emulation, through decompilation, through any means that become necessary in future, regardless of what may befall us, whether monetary or otherwise.WE keep them alive.We don't have to justify ourselves to an auidience that can't see the value, because we see the value!It doesn't matter that others don't see it! WE see it!And thats all that matters in the long run.
>>736931048This oneThe one you can buy on SteamThe one you can play with KBM if you want toPathetic, moronic, gaslighting, goalpost flinging, stupid ass bitch
>>736930914The Thing > Who Goes There?
>>736930996not even true retarded zoomer. it started being called clunky when gears of war released in 2006
>>736931263Video games are huge. The average movie enjoyer goes to watch Disney remake slopThe average game enjoyer plays re4makeActual movie and game fans exist and are doing other things
>>736930909You fr dont get it unc the game is clunky asf unplayable
>>736930909>Since when did modernization become synonymous with homogenization. Just because a game has a different control scheme that you have to get used to doesn’t mean it’s “outdated”But it's haaaaard and it requires efforrrrrtcan't everything be the same so I don't have to think?
>>736928708its why this desire to appeal to a "fandom and community" is soo strong, the game or whatever topic doesnt matter, its belonging to the ingroup.
Haha, woooow. Yet another thread made by some salty autist who can't comprehend the concept that people can like both the OG and the original.
>>736931424These subhumans genuinely believe that being a 'fan' is being part of a fandom that worships a specific franchise that can do no wrong and that it will ALWAYS get better and you can't criticize it otherwise "how are you fan if you don't suck corporate dick lmao chud".
>>736931135A game having gameplay mechanics so consistent and fair that it allows for insane challenge runs is a sign of a well-made game, not the other way around. Super Mario World, DOOM, Dark Souls, Resident Evil 4, these are all games that have immense staying power, because almost no scenario is truly unbeatable with enough skill. You priorities are out of whack, bro.
>>736931458we know pigs love slop.
>>736931458If you want to just ignore the conversation and spout your assimilated bot lines you can just leave the website altogether and go to that place you best belong at
>>736931458And here's the retarded unc who thinks anyone under 40 would ever play the OG over the remake.
>>736923920Movies are artVideo games are notThey're toys and there's nothing wrong with it so stop being a manchild
>>736930141not true, original somehow manages to be more exciting and atmospheric at the same time with the choices in cutscenes, music, sound effects and voices. The gameplay is snappier, more feature rich. The environments are unique to itself rather than following trends of the era it was made.
>>736931565Don't bother trying to talk him he takes pride in playing a worse version of gameLeon controls like shit, every unique enemy is defeated by basic parry timings, and your guns roll on an rng table if they are going to work or not
>>736931458It doesn't matter if you like the worse art. The worse art is still just an imitation.Are you capable of admitting this truth? If so, then you have no business getting upset at threads like this. Admit that the game you defend is a cash grab asset flip without a creative pulse and then move along
>>736931135>I've seen a brazillian mod that as a joke teleports you into a "room" the size of a closet with 8 modded increased health and speed super salvadors and no way out in any direction and even that is possible to overcome with basic weapons and no rocket launcher. Games get solved by autists and tryhards. That has always happened. Being able to beat them without taking damage or whatever is not an indication of bad design.For the average player, OG RE4 presents a decent enough challenge to be fun. It might be tad on the easy side after a few playthroughs, but so what?To the hyper autist, fun will be had by breaking it as wide open as possible.Challenge is good. But if you're a retarded developer that can only achieve challenge by making it play like rotten garbage, just leave it easy. This is a game filled with yellow paint for retards, so it's not like difficulty is a prime consideration.
>>736931726>"wah wah these are toys so don't expect any quality assurance just buy the new one when it comes out and like that one the best"When in the course of human history did we allow these "people" to keep bothering actual human beings with their existence?
>>736930996This is the shit that completely turned me against the remake. It just wasn't enough for them to simply enjoy their slop, they also had to slander the original to justify their own consoomerism. Fucking disgraceful, I tell you.
>>736931726>appreciating art is being a manchild but playing with toys isn't
>>736931343Gears is not even a good comparison as it plays totally different, why not compare it to RE5 or RE4 Wii
>>736926289>reddit spacingKys you soulless slop eating goycattle.
S>>736931586A>>736931683G>>736931707E>>736931774Haha, woooow. Whatever helps you cope with your small mind. Samefagging won't save you.
>>736931852Yeah I remember right before remake people were calling the original trilogy clunky(to justify consuming re2make funny enough) and not realizing re4 is also tank controls and that was fine
>>736931839You're allowed to shit on a cheap remake but re4remake is not one of itIts kinda like 1remake but better3remake was bad and you don't find anyone defending that game
>>736931343Come on, now. I like GoW, but it's shallow compared to RE4.
played both remake is way betternostalgia troons get out
>Haha, woooow. Whatever helps you cope with your small mind. Samefagging won't save you.
RE4(2005) fanboys are so pathetic.It’s okay if you prefer it but stop having a mental breakdown whenever it is pointed out that RE4 is objectively superior.
>>736931996re4demake is full of store bought assets. It is cheap.
>>736931324The Thing and The Fly are the examples that immediately come to mind, but both of those were so different to their earlier adaptations, that in itself validated their existence.
>>736932009Cope and sneed
>>736931930If you made a Venn diagram of people who prefer the remake and the people who got stuck at Ashley's sliding block puzzle in the original, you would get a circle.
Resi tits thread
Okay. It's now clear this thread (or any others made about this topic) is not made in good faith.
>>736931930it's not a high IQ thing, you just have to be a genuine retard to dislike tank controls
>>736931807A lot of modern gamers are stuck on the hard = good mentality Obviously making a game too easy isn't fun but I swear to god people would rather make a game hard for the sake of it being hard than to make it goodIt's like how people have started to criticize dark souls 1 on the basis of it being easier than modern fromsoft games
>>736932310The dark souls point is so good, I fully remembered this weird turn from dark souls is a hard game but it's good because it adds to the tension of exploring its detailed structured worlds too easy
>>736931930I still don't understand why people have trouble with it.Like some initial awkwardness I get, but if you've played for a couple of hours and you still can't get it, there's something wrong with you.
>>736924071You can whine as much as you want, videogames are art
>>736932310>A lot of modern gamers are stuck on the hard = good mentalityBut 90% of modern games are not hard at all. This isn't true.
>>736932006>nostalgiaI didn't have a problem with RE2 Remake (the B game being gutted was disappointing thoughbeit) and I thought RE3 Remake was playable and kind of fun.RE4 Remake is atrociously bad.
>>736932254Welcome to 4chan.Get out.
>>736932385>played for a couple hoursYou think anyone has that kind of patience these days? Just look at the webms posted ITT, literally seconds into the game and already begging for help online instead of trying to learn and intuit like a normal human being.
>>736932448Difficulty has been increasing on average over th blast few gens.Still not as hard as the average nes game but those were 30 min long soo difficulty was only so intense so you didn't finish it in an hour
>>736932512well of course you think that because you are retarded lol
>>736932101>still waging his gay little war
>>736932006>nostalgia troons get outThe biggest problem with the remake is that it relies on nostalgia to even exist. It has no identity of its own.
>>736932579You don't understand anonHe HAS to be in the right, it's not enough his discord friends agree with him
>>73693244890% of them aren't considered good either but the easiest way to get people to fellate your game is to make it hard
>>736932448both can be true at the same time
>>736932604it justifies its existence by being playable compared to old ugly tank control trashinfact its just the definitive way to play re4
>>736932310YeahI'm a difficulty fag myself, but there's a point where it becomes pure retardation. If someone's making the game "harder" by making it worse, they've reached that point, and so have its defenders.
>>736932565Well at least I've been upgraded from nostalgia troon to retard, I guess that's progress
>>736923920>so far, every nu-remake had cut content and fans are fine with itCV bros, we can say goodbye to the Antarctic.
>>736932659No really if anything "A lot of modern gamers are stuck on the hard = good mentality" is what /vee/ shitters say whe game isn't press X to win.This is common phenomenon here.
>>736923920>That's the difference between a true-art medium and cheap entertainmentslop for the masses.>That's why Video-Games will always be seen as toys, Roger Ebert was right.marvel nickelodeon enjoyer has no room to speak on what is and isn't art
>>736932539>literally seconds into the game and already begging for help online instead of trying to learn and intuit like a normal human beingI worry that the world cannot recover from this becoming the norm. Especially when you consider how these people will be when they can ask AI to do everything for them, up to and including thinking.
>>736931726if movies are art, so are videogames.
>>736932950>This is common phenomenon here.The common phenomenon is people like you thinking every criticism is born from a lack of skill, and coming away from every encounter with this belief no matter how much evidence is shown to the contrary.
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>>736933147movies don't have a win condition.
>>736933239>art that you can win isn't artWhy?
>>736933158>The common phenomenon is people like you thinking every criticism is born from a lack of skillIt is born from a lack of skill. Every single time. And I'm total shitter who got filtered in Ninja Gaiden 1.>Malenia_is_unbeatable.webmYep. Great thread it was indeed
>>736928369One of the best movies ever you dirty nigger
>>736923920Plenty of faggots get stirred up into a frothing rage if you dare to imply that a remake could have its own merit as well so yeah I guess gamers are just oftentimes retarded little bitches
>>736933239there are games where you can't win or losenow what
>>736926289>Being 32 years old I now realize how much of a hack 4chan is.Tell me more about this "hack" called 4chan. Seems like an awful guy.
>>736932101>he says when him and his reddit/discord sisters get mindbroken hard and collectively shit their diapers when you prefer the original and not the demake for modern audiences
Can we all take a moment to acknowledge the ridiculous ways people type RE4's name now?I've seen someone call it OG RE405 as well. What the fuck.
>>736933239A win condition does not prevent a videogame from being art. It simply adds an interactive layer through which the artistic vision is experienced. If someone argues that failing to meet a win condition prevents the player from accessing the full artistic experience, the same could be said of other art forms. A viewer may fail to understand a film, miss symbolism in a painting, or lack the context needed to fully appreciate a work. In all cases, the completeness of the experience depends partly on the observer’s engagement and interpretation. Videogames are not unique in this regard, they simply make that engagement interactive rather than passive.
>>736933719>RE405 kek
>>736929834I don't think so. Not only did reality not improve, but cinematography actually got noticeably worse in many cases. Just a search on Youtube and you get tons of video essays on why new movies often look so flat and colorless and cheap and sterile. There are very few reasons to remake a good, classic movie unless you can re-interpret it in a wholly original way.It's a completely different beast from games. Sure, you do get some modernizations like the yellow paint which we all wish could be turned off, but those are still details. On the whole the advancements in technology and design, if used right, have a lot of potential to improve the experience. And I do think they were in RE4, that it was a worthwhile re-do.If pic related was the original RE4, would people still say RE4R was pointless and soulless? I do think we're fast approaching the plateau where remaking things is just an exercise in futility, but 2005 was still in that relatively primitive 3D borderland where they hadn't quite figured things out yet.
>>736933440it is a game
>>736927983lmfao>>736928225muh jews>>736928531muh (((connected)))>>736931930muh reddit goyI'm alive to see the day zoomer faggots and revisionists on 4chan unironically defending action slop RE4.
>>736933502>It is born from a lack of skill. Every single time.I think you are making my point for me.
>>736934134>muh (((connected)))Surrounding it with the scare brackets doesn't stop things from having an effect on other thingsIt does give you an excuse to stop thinking about it though
>>736931364I really hope this is trolling.
>>736933720>It simply adds an interactive layer through which the artistic vision is experiencedNo, it hands all control to the player and the artistic vision is lost. A scene in a movie plays out exactly the same way with zero input from the audience. As does a painting, music, poem etc. What the artist wanted to convey at that moment is always expressed.A game on the other hand is full of a million variables and how the player interacts with them is chaotic. Some are forseen by the creator but many are not. This is a cool theme part ride but not art.
>>736931565>A game having gameplay mechanics so consistent and fair that it allows for insane challenge runs is a sign of a well-made game
>>736934349You're a cocksucking faggot that eats algorithmic slop. The normies are catching up with you faggots, I see muh nigger kike banter on x(owned by african billionaire) on the daily like I was on 4chan. Your edgy faggot sekret klub "noticing" is NPC slop now. Imagine being sharing the same ideology as a pro-pally faggot socialist like Hasan or a nigger like candace Owens or Ye and pretending it's more controlled opposition because your cope runs deeper than your dilation. You're not unique or special. Kill yourself with the thickest rope.
>>736933239Comprehension is the win condition if a movie, and lots of people fail that.
>>736934745THIS is what uncs are calling a irreplaceable masterpiece? KEKAROO
>>736934243Sucks to be you, shitterbro.
>>736931324the thing was an adaptation of a book retard
>>736923920>dude why waste time playing the old unc game, just play the shiny new one, its 100 times betterthere are a vocal minority on both sides of the spectrum and both belong in a woodchipper>i enjoy both>have been seeing this oldVnew crap in the monster hunter community since forever>there HAS to be a conflict because... there just has to be! we totally need to prove to one generation that ours is better!its never about the product's merits, just about "the times"
>>736934598>No, it hands all control to the player and the artistic vision is lost.This is just a nonsense.Movies also have different edits even with different endings. Participatory art exist too.
>>736934768>The normies are catching up with you faggots, I see muh nigger kike banter on x(owned by african billionaire) on the daily like I was on 4chan. Your edgy faggot sekret klub "noticing" is NPC slop now.Good. I'm glad my ideas are winning against yours.
>>736926289based
>>736928987>also did you know that you dont need to buy stuff like the soundtrack or costumes?did u know i love when women fart on my cock?
>>736926289>reddit gaslighting Enjoy (You)
>>736934598>A game on the other hand is full of a million variables and how the player interacts with them is chaoticYou're assuming that art requires total control over how it is experienced, but that’s not actually true. Even in films, literature, or paintings, the artist cannot control how the audience interprets or engages with the work. People misunderstand scenes, miss symbolism, lose focus, or bring different perspectives. The experience is never identical. Games don’t lose artistic vision, they encode it into systems and rules. The player doesn’t replace the artist’s control, they operate within boundaries designed by the artist. So interactivity isn’t a loss of control, it’s a different kind of control, where the artist designs not just what happens but the range of possible experiences. You’re treating variability as a loss of artistic control, but all art already involves variability in how it’s experienced.
>>736932771RE4's controls are near perfect, people having problems with them is always a skill issue.
>>736935587>be 32>still cant comprehend the concept of anonymous users with differing opinions and backgroundsi wonder if youll still be that retarded when youre 80
>>736935960>youlwhoops meant the tard you're replying toim not gonna give him his (you) though now that the milk has been spilt
>>736923920>product of their timethis is the opposite of the mark of quality btwgreat media is timeless
>>736936024i really dont understand the argumenta thing can be a product of its time and still be timeless"product of its time" is a retardedly circular way of telling people "i dont agree with the sensibilities" regardless of the quality of the thing in question
>>736923920Man I’m so glad the classic RE4 got a great remake that will be forever relevant due to autists arguing over it.
>>736928691>literal P2W dlc If this game came out maybe a bit over a decade ago Capcom would’ve been publicly raked over the coals for this. Crazy to me that nobody even mentions all the EA-tier microtransactions in reviews or when discussing the game at all. Do gamers just not care about being ripped off anymore?
>>736935559no i did not
>>736934745>Why is the tutorial area easy?
>>736926289Well if you were smarter you'd realize that it would be correct to call re4 soulless after coming from re0-3 since they completely changed the game formula, but then you look at 5-6 and realize that this is the direction capcom went into and you had to accept it. Then you realize that RE4 was actually the good kind of action-horror mix
>old ugly tank control trashI played the ORIGINAL Resident Evil 2 on my PS5 just a few weeks ago and I was blown away by how phenomenally well the game has aged, gorgeous artstyle, pristine and tight controls, tension, risk/reward, variety, replayability, iconic music, iconic encounters, it's all there.If you can't play a classic game and enjoy it on its merit then get the FUCK OFF MY BOARD
>>736926289>Being 32 years oldNewfag
>>736936147/v/eddit had a meltdown when people criticized Capcom for pulling this shit in DD2>MTX >:(>MTX, Japan <:O
>>736926289You're right big dawg. I remember. Being bitter contrarians does make you feel cool and smart when you arent getting pussy though.
>>736936147yes its an optionno you dont have to buy ityes its been in quite a few gamesNo it finally didnt return in RE9/monster hunter wilds/stories 3no we have no idea if it wil show up in Pragmata or Onimushawhat is the issue
>>736936147People will say it's okay when Capcom does it.The ironic thing about this is that EA doesn't do this with their new single player games, their single player games just have a deluxe edition with some skins, which isn't great, but at least it's not game altering MTX. People raised their pitchforks on EA for selling MTX in Dead Space 3 but they won't do it for Resident Evil.
because movies are already SOULLESS DOGSHIT99999999999999999.99999999999999999999999% of movies are novel-based, it's the most soulless medium there is, not a shred of creativity
>>736936678>makeup department>director>sound department>editor>actorsnah there's enough moving parts that the intent and expression can be molded into something differentjust look at all the stephen king adaptations out theremost arent all that faithful to the source materialthat said a fucking game like>unchartedwhich is just an homage to indiana jones, DOESNT NEED A FUCKING MOVIEthat goes for tomb raider
>>736936619and here's the Dead Rising remaster for comparison
>>736936678fitting for a fan of a low iq medium to have low iq posts
>>736936418Putting a price tag on game progression is gross in any context. I wouldn’t play a game that does that just on principle.
>>736923920I’m gonna do a point by point system on which game does one aspect better than the other >OG>better music>better art style and ambiance >way better cutscenes and English voice actors >better pacing overall >more reliable movement >turret nigger >better mercenaries difficulty>better costume >RE4MAKE>way better gun balance, TMP was far too broken In the original making every pistol obsolete >better bosses overall, salazar is an actual fight now rather than a QTEfest and it works >better characterisation for the main 3, villains goes to the OG >better levels with no bullshit rooms, Og4 has the “bug room” with the light switch sections >way better separate ways even if half the new stuff is stolen from the cut content of OG >better mercenaries characters, the unique gimmicks of krauser makes it timeless, just wish there were more maps >more fun enemies overall, the red coats being able to make plagas enemies is dope>better island overall, castle and village is honestly tied Both games are masterclass one just clearly was restricted to modern gaming s obsessions with “realistic” engine and “no loading screens” and obviously constrained dev time. One day I will make an autistic video to shit on people who feel the need to shit on the other :D
>>736936856I'm a literature "fan" actually.
nice AI slop art in your game
>>736926289you don't belong here, leave.
>>736928364there is nothing wrong with OG RE4's controls
>>736936942>way better...even if new stuff is stolen (not new)Very, very enlightening analysis Bulbasaur. So basically not better, just rearranged and sold back to you for an additional price, with retcons and padding and yellow paint.
>>736925939>>736924071People who are obsessed with games being art always make the worst games, ironically the ones with a neutral or even negative take on the matter make vidya with gameplay in mind, a far more artistic endeavour filled with more qualia than the "artists" slop.Games should not be considered art for the same reason sciences aren't too, scientists had to choose between science or art, and they chose science. Same with game developers, the only ones who want both of those to be art tend to be shit at the field.
>>736936170You're being dishonest.
Remake wonTroonrignal lost
>>736937913Those enemies are before you even make it to the village, literally the first 5-6 enemies, before the game even offers you any in-game control explanation. Nigger. Who is being dishonest now? NIGGER.
>>736936217upvoting this post. Welcome home, bro (I assume it was your first time playing RE2 1998).You should play the eng patched Japanese PC version with the upscaled graphics/backgrounds mod. You could also unlock the extra costumes and modes as well as a personal challenege, which almost all involved beating the game under a certain amount playtime or not saving either at all or a handful of times.For the extra costumes start a new game on Normal or above and do NOT pick up any items and head to the police station (if you are skilled you can dodge around 99% of the enemies on the way). If you did it properly, when you arrive to the RPD courtyard take the stairs down and you will see an infested Brad Vickers. Kill him (he has beefed up health) and pick up the Special Key you use on the lockers in the Darkroom Save Room inside the RPD for special costumes. Some of the costumes alter the way the character fires guns.
>>736938076Further proof, that's the house with the pitchfork woman right there, it's right past the dog trapped in the bear trap. Literally the exact very beginning of the game, before Hunnigan even calls to show you the controls.
>>736938271You lost RE405tard.Take the L.
i think it funny that anyone thouht re4 was good until remake comes out
>>736938365>you're lying>no, you're the one that is lying, here's the immediate and undeniable, unshakable proof of your pathetic dishonesty>lol you're seething, buzzwordsBroccoli heads can't possibly be this retarded
>>736937569No retard the sections they took were done better for a fact, and given the fact that the obstacles enemy layouts are different as well as the structure by default it wasn’t sold back to me Dumb nigger kill yourself
>>736938706Mad at the truth because cut content was sold as DLC and he defends it instead of telling the truthLine up to that buffet piggy
>>736935513>winning>take that>haha epic ownzPeople like you are cancer.>>736935960>users with differing opinions and backgrounds Lmfao holy shit you faggots are so obvious. I wonder if you would give the same level of charitability to a community of fags online if they were saying shit like tranny games are epic (reddit). "Ohh sirr it's just differing opinions and backgrounds plz dont generalize us we're all unique!! :(("You hiveminded faggots will argue jew shit and all sorts of faggot shit simply to avoid or skirt aound the fact that RE4 was a dogshit action slop RE game that was always shit on by 4chan but because you are a literal zoomer/revisionist you blind yourself into thinking muh remakes are soulless. Anything but addressing the argument I made.
>>736923920>>ideally you should watch both, or at least the originalNobody says this.
>>736923920movies are low class entertainmentgames are a higher form
>>736923920All art should be understood within its sociocultural context, that why it's a sin to constantly remake the same bullshit. Make new games and stop it with the fucking remakes.
>>736938804>cut content was sold as DLCSEPARATE WAYS WASN'T EVEN IN THE OG GAMECUBE VERSION YOU RETARD
>>736936942>turret niggerkekedHonestly you make some good points, even if the remake's flaws (and artistic revisions) outweigh its positives for me. The biggest problem for me is how bad it feels to play. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with the movement.
>>736938856>>winning>>take that>>haha epic ownz>People like you are cancer.No, I'm being entirely sincere. My ideas are good and yours are bad, so even if it takes the consensus of NPCs and retards to do it, I'm glad mine are succeeding and yours aren't.
>>736938948NTA but how does that stop it from being cut content?
>>736938982>RE405tards will really defend tank controls to the death but then short circuit and get filtered when Leon controls like a human does in real lifeYou can’t even make this shit up. There really is something wrong with them cognitively.
>>736939167because if you wanted to play the "new content" back then and you only owned a gamecube, you would've had to buy a PS2 and a PS2 copy of the game
>>736928583The problem is the idea of remaking things. There's no value in simply remaking something that already exists with little to no change.RE2R at least delivered something significantly different, RE4R is just redoing something with slight alterations for money.
I can understand preferring one style of gameplay over the other. But I don't get how people can deny that the remake is OBJECTIVELY inferior aesthetically and atmospherically.The UI is generic. Far less character interactions between Leon and the enemies. Salazar and Saddler have worse designs. The villagers in the original are scarier (louder, feel more cooperative). OG castle was much more detailed. Just compare the "end of chapter" screens between remake and og. Literally undeniable downgrade.
>>736939246Leon controls nothing like a human does in real life, unless that human is both hungover AND drunk simultaneously.He's just sluggish and feels like shit.Fast and responsive tank controls are a million times better.By the way: get up and walk around. Notice anything?Yeah, faggot. You operate with tank controls too.
>>736923920>movie takes 1.5 hours to watch>game takes 20+ hours to playyep absolutely no difference dude! gottem
>>736939480>because if you wanted to play the "new content" back then and you only owned a gamecube, you would've had to buy a PS2 and a PS2 copy of the gameYes, that's true.But if you owned a PS2, you would get all that content by buying the game once.That content became the standard going forward. It was in the Wii version. It was in the PC version. I'm 100% certain it was in all the versions I didn't play as well.From that point, if it's not in the game, it's cut content.
Every video game remake is the Star Wars Special Edition DVDs where they add nothing and just shit up the original with new effects and altered plot details for modern sensibilities
>>736939583Take. The. L.
>>736939720>Every video game remake is the Star Wars Special Edition DVDs where they add nothing and just shit up the original with new effects and altered plot details for modern sensibilitiesThis is the plain truth.The original vision is the complete product. Adding or changing shit to justify a remake only makes the design less cohesive.
>>736939960I'll take the L when you give me one.
prove you played it
>>736939720Video game remakes are much worse than that. Because at least those were done by Lucas, so they were his own artistic vision. They didn't even consult Mikami on this shit. Most game remakes are all new devs, they only have the game because of IP laws.
>>736940040The whole world is giving you L's.
>>736939534You don't understand retards.They will tell you just because the models have more polygons or the textures are a higher resolution that it is undeniably "better" because the assets are higher fidelity. They can't think past any point other than number bigger, I'm dead serious, they're that fucking retarded.
>>736923920Most movies aren't remade like games get remade. For example the scene by scene remake of psycho was critically panned and considered wholly inferior to the original, similar to how the RE remakes are inferior to the originals.
>>736937913That is literally the first area of the game, and it doesn't even go against my original point, which was that the game has consistent controls and mechanics, which that clip demonstrates, so I'm not even sure what point you think you're making.
>>736940217This is so kino. We need to replace all uncshit games like this.
>things that never happened: the thread
>>736940147I've played the Wii and Steam Deck versions.
>>736939108>I'm being entirely sincereYeah, I know you are. That's the pathetic and sad part. You're a product of slop. You're indistiguishable from russian bots and normie cockslurpers that ingest algorithmic diarrhea on a daily basis. The older I become and stay here the more I hate you unironic fucking faggots. Anyway RE4 was always actionslop QTE soulless cancer.
>>736939534that's why they go in full defense mode OH YOU'RE NITPICKING OH YOU'RE SUCH A JADED BOOMER because they have nothing to sayor that it doesn't matter at all(it does a lot)
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>>736936942Nice to see a fellow TMP enjoyer ITT. People who trash that gun confuse me.
>>736940217Nice of them to label the good ones with the year of publication so I can easily locate them.
>>736940467>The older I become and stay here the more I hate you unironic fucking faggotsAll the more reason to be glad you're losing. I might even choose to be snide about it.
>>736940936>6-7 haha winning bing bingno older than 23 max.
>>736925090>Children don't have any valuable input on whether a work is good or not. Many examples of children who don't have valuable input are in this thread. They basically say that one is newer, so it must be better. That makes sense coming from someone who was just born, but it doesn't say anything meaningful about why one is better.
>>736939534>Just compare the "end of chapter" screens between remake and og. Literally undeniable downgrade.normalfags don't see the problem with that, nor do they see the problem with the save room music being goneas long as they get to play as leon and shoot at zombies they don't care what else happens
>>736941123>nobody ever cared about winning until Gen Alpha came along.If you had a brain you'd have realized that I'm not gloating. I'm just glad.
Mackel is live
>>736923920Both 4's suck, both 2's are a classic. Another day, another OP is a clueless faggot.
>remake gets announced>everyone is hyped because [re4, sh2, persona 3] are considered some of the best games ever made, and everyone is pretending they're happy to experience it again>remake comes out>suddenly the discourse changes and the original was bad the entire time, and the remake wasn't made because the original was so good, it was remade because the original was outdated and needed to be modernizedthis happens with absolutely every single remake and I'm not blind to itit's all tourists and posers who prop up these remakes because they haven't and refuse to play the originals
Yes, this will be my source to debunk Resident Evil 4 (2023).
>>736942130Some crazy silly guy tells the truth and you seethe
Every criticism of the RE4 remake applies equally to the RE1 remake.
>>736942130
>>736942082>go check RE4R community>lot of OG larpers>go check their accounts>don't have either RE4R or RE4 or when they have they only have 5 hours in the OG and 40 hours in the remakeIt's really this dishonest, SH2 remake is worst only in voice acting and RE4R is worst in voice acting and inventory management, besides that, the remakes are the defacto versions to play.
>watched both videos>second is just more nitpicky autism but double downed besides valid complaints like the yellow paint and ada VAhearing some retarded youtuber's voice talking about how the original game felt more "open" and like you could go into the forest as if these are things he actually thought about back then and not just shit made up for the videotop that with the last 8 minutes basically just being complete seethe about remake getting good reviews and then ending it thanking a bunch of retarded youtubers and streamers, ESPECIALLY >>736942130also it's completely dishonest to try and say the OG game is "timeless" when it literally has multiple things that were a product of it's time like QTEs... and how the OG didn't have an auto-sort option for inventory
>>736942526>the OG didn't have an auto-sort option for inventorydo you even understand why you could sort your limited inventory space in the original or are you that retardeddo you even understand why auto sorting and having a fucking item box to store excess weapons completely waters down the choices you are allowed to make in the original
>>736932403>>736927784Easy way to spot shidditors
>>736930141>just because it's a remakehas anyone besides shitposters really done this though?
>>736942776>item box to store excess weapons completely waters down the choices you are allowed to make in the originaloh yes, much choice
Just boughted RE4. First time playing. I hope it's as good as everyone says it is :)...Or should I have emulated it?
>>736943016do you have the inventory space to carry around your starter pistol, the punisher you got from shooting the blue medallions, the shotgun you picked up, the broken butterfly from the castle, the rocket launcher you want to grab for the boss fight, on top of buying the re9 and having it take up your inventory space? or are you going to have to choose to stick with your preferred weapons because you can't go to the fucking item box and store all this shit away for free?that post about people pretending to be too retarded to actually engage in an argument was right, you're just pretending that because the red9 is a popular and powerful pistol that what I said is somehow invalidated when you refused to even address what I was saying in the first place
>>736943342WTF, the remake has a storage box?! Goddamn, it really is soulless. Having to commit to a pistol and be loyal to your gun waifu was part of what made the original so engaging. No more Blacktail vs Red9 discussions I guess, everyone gets a medal.
>>736935439>Movies also have different edits even with different endingsIrrelevant. Only the final cut matters.>Participatory art exist too.No it doesn't.>>736935780>You're assuming that art requires total control over how it is experienced, but that’s not actually true.It's very true actually. Art is the artists expression and video GAMES muddy that up. It's why nobody in the art world takes video games seriously.
OP here.I haven't played either the Remake or the OG RE4.As a matter of fact I've never played a Resident Evil game.I just used the Remake cover in the OP to attract more people to the thread.
>>736945172liar...
>>736923920Idgaf what movie people think, recording with a camera is not art
>>736935435No one asked what you enjoy, we're talking about which game is better
>>736947306Its the absolute truth, I am afraid.
>>736942210>Every criticism of the RE4 remake applies equally to the RE1 remake.Many do, but definitely not all.
why are RE engine era fans just afraid to admit they've never played the original gamesIt's okay, we get it, you were born in 2008 and your first RE was RE2make and then you played the other RE engine gamesadmit it, but don't pretend you're an actual Resident Evil fanif someone told you they only watched Episode's 7-9 of Star Wars you wouldn't take their opinion seriously until they watched the first 6 films
>>736944250yes, the typewriters in the remake all have an item box function so you can swap in and out your weapons at will, but remake fags don't know this isn't in the original because they never played it
>>736927154>For now. You already have Capcom bosses questioning a store why they would want the originals over the demakes.That was prior to GOG convincing them to release their old PC backlog on their storefront. If it didn't do well enough, they wouldn't have bothered bringing them over to Steam as well after their 1yr exclusivity.
No, it's mostly old no-lifers here going apeshit whenever somebody claims to be enjoying a new game. They expect the industry to crash any day now and retro games to become popular again like when they were young. They dream of leading young people in Halo on their homebrew servers. Complete loons.
>>736949437>going apeshit whenever somebody claims to be enjoying a new gameI just thought it was a bad game, and apparently that's not allowed anymore
>>736949040>your first RE was RE2make and then you played the other RE engine gamesadmit it, but don't pretend you're an actual Resident Evil fan>'you've played RE2, RE3, RE4, RE7, RE8 & RE9, but you're not an ACTUAL RE fan'the only ones missing at that point is 1 (fair) and 5 & 6 (which aren't real RE games according to everyone)
>>736949530no you're supposed to believe in schrödinger's game journalists where somehow all video game journalists are dogshit retards who are payed off to give games good scores but when the modern game you like gets perfect 10's then the reviews are accurate and back up your argument
>>736949572oh yeah? you played re4?which path did you go after the house fight, left or right?
>>736949572>the only ones missing at that point is 1 (fair) and 5 & 6He's talking about them playing only the remakes, meaning they haven't played the original 2, 3 or 4 either
>>736949437RE4 is kino and remake is slop, but you're not wrong. Being angry at the latter for existing and at normies for eating that shit up is a waste of life. The golden age of video games that produced RE4 is not coming back, no matter how angry I or Crowbcat are at the current state of gaming. The normies, as mindless as they are, at least appear content with their consooming. Just seething online about this shit is a true waste of a person's life. Remake culture will keep on chugging along, regardless of how much I post about it.There's enough of a backlog of great games to keep an average person occupied for a lifetime. No need to chose the path of anger.Remake is still slop though.
>>736949530>apparently that's not allowed anymoreUnfortunately it is, unlike in the movie community. Imagine some idiot yelling at everybody in a movie theater for watching new movies. Here, every day. Every single day. Stay in /vr/.
>>736949754>Being angry at the latter for existing and at normies for eating that shit up is a waste of life.I am less angry about the game than I am determined to call it bad, no matter how many faggots call me nostalgia-blind and demand I fellate it
People treat video games as a inherently disposable medium. Re4r is fine in a bubble but removes a lot of what I enjoy about re4. Capcom please patch the hd release of of re4 on ps4/switch to not have giant deadzone problems
I'd only be annoyed at REmake 4 if they used it to delist the original, or tie the original to purchasing this newer, more expensive version.Capcom did neither, and left the HD version on Steam as it was.
>>736949810>Only discussion I like is allowed, if you discuss the game in a way I don't like, you should just leaveNo, I won't. /v/ is not your hugbox. If you don't want to see any of this icky negative opinions while you're playing, stay away until you're done.
>>736950120those*
>>736923920Video games are toys. There is nothing wrong with that.
>>736927739You forgot The Thing
>>736950234>Video games are toys. There is nothing wrong with that.They're also art. It's just a shame that most of the people who call them art do so with the intention of making them less fun.
>>736950083Okay but Lost Planet 2 is still unplayable and I'd rather they fix that than make these slop remakes
>>736951518>Okay but Lost Planet 2 is still unplayableLoad up the old depot. LP2 always worked, but the issue is you had to wait literally a full 11 minutes for the GFWL crap to time-out and then proceed with serial registration.
>>736927739>I am Legend>probably the best movies ever made
I like scene girl Ashley
>>736942130>He's telling the truth>B-BUT HE'S UGLY?!
>>736942130Clickbait faggotry of the highest order, but he's still correct.
>>736942082Happens with sequels too.
>>736942236>or when they have they only have 5 hours in the OG and 40 hours in the remakeHave you considered that maybe they played the shit out of the OG on one of the 50,000 consoles it was released on? And did one or two playthroughs of RE4R before forming an final opinion?
>>736942236I have 34 hours in the OG and 0 hours in the remake, what happens now
>>736923920>>the 2 movies are products of their times and are different from one another>>ideally you should watch both, or at least the originalwhere do you get this insane idea from?
>>736927739>I am Legend is a remakeits a novel retard.
>>736954204scarface
>>736954325thats also a novel, therefore not a remake but an adaption.
>>736954396Interesting, never knew that
remakes are only good if the people remaking actually care about it. take wages of fear for example. 3 movies in total, one good remake from friedkin but still different and to a degree inferior to the original tonally, as it feels closer to a hollywood action movie and is less about the characters and their struggle before and during the transport. and then you have the 2024 version. soulless cashgrab remake, made by people who have no idea how to make a movie and what made the first two movies good (on their own).the resident evil demake is middling, not outright bad but still clearly inferior in so many ways that its not worth it. way too many bad modern changes, taking inspiration from movie games like the last of us. its uninspired, boring and evidently, soley made as a cashgrab due to branding.
>>736926289The hack(er) known as 4chan
pick one
>>736956314>pick oneLeft desuBut ideally, both
