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Are you still playing Genshin Impact?
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>>736926425
nah, I play wuwa now, like last month
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>>736926567
should I give it a try?
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Never played but Aether sexo
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>>736927137
that's gay
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>>736926425
Latecomer here, I waited two years but I finally got Eula on the chronicle banner. It was worth the wait, she's perfect and the most fun to play. Pretty good video game overall.
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>>736926425
yeah i'm still here collecting waifus and laughing at tourists who seethe over the canon MC.

the new world quest was amazing, god to see theyre moving the plot along
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>>736926567
bait used to be believable
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>>736927137
True
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>>736926425
No, not even best girl Lisa could keep me playing.
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nah wuwa better, simple as
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>fag dogwhistle op
>wujeets baiting from first post
yeah, shan't be participating in this thread, see you in the next one
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>>736927947
I love this sexy faggot so much
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Please play wuwa
Please
I'm begging
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>>736928115
>next one
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>implying i play gacha slop
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Why were Sumeru and Fontaine so overwhelmingly better than anything that came before and/or after?
Did they hire a different writer or something?
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>>736926425
Dropped it after the bike, i will return to roll for the Tsaritsa, fap to her in game and then uninstall
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>>736928318
Nod Krai has a great archon quest but lackluster exploration. Its music is good and it has a good cast too, mainly because Sandrone is in it. Fontaine stays winning.
Sumeru suffered too much from too many deserts, it really needed one more rainforest expansion and i'd be perfect.
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>>736928318
>overwhelmingly worse*
yeah I think they fired a bunch of diversity foids, nod-krai has been a big step compared to sloptaine
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>>736926425
Not but are still the Liyue girls the best one?
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>>736928686
I like Nodkrai's environments and puzzles a lot, the Fataui base, the annihilation event valley, eye of sauron, fog forest, lots of really cool areas. It just feels small overall. Also when the fuck are we going into the moon in the Fatui's basement?
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>>736926425
No, Natlan was gay and lame. I didn't like all the modern stuff and reading the text in the later regions got super fucking tiring with how fucking bloated the writing got. The writing didn't get better or anything they just added more dialog. I also got tired of the combat and grind and I never liked the character designs much anyway.
Shame since I was interested in the plot with your twin, but those quests are always a blip compared to how long you spend on the region quests or even some side quests.
Also the new Aether design was shit. I spit on you
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>>736929225
>Also when the fuck are we going into the moon in the Fatui's basement?
I think it's just a fragment of the eternal moon they managed to pull from the sky or fell from the sky and crashed into Nod Krai. There is nothing inside
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>>736926425
Yes I am. It's fun
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>>736926425
Yeah but not consistently anymore. The game is getting better and worse at the same time.
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>>736926425
Which boy has the best butt?
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>>736926425
>>736927137
>>736927947
i want to impact aether's genshartnus...
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>>736930785
I want to lick his tummy
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>>736926425
yeah
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>>736926425
No. There are way better options like wuwa, Endfield or ZZZ. The only and consistent community who still play it are gay troons, I'm not even joking its very hard to find a genshin player who is not a troon
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>>736926425
Yes, though I wish the Temple of Space was a more fleshed out. The volcano feels like it had more to do in it since there's just the main island and then three small offshoot islands that sometimes don't even have anything there like picture related. Visually it's cool, but in terms of doing anything there it's basically just a bunch of angels standing around as you do the few puzzles there are. It feels like they wanted to do Enkanomiya again but didn't want to commit as much.

>>736926846
They're both fun games with nice worlds and enjoyable characters. If you like one you'll likely like the other as a lot of the menuing and exploration is the same, the main difference is how exploration is handled in terms of going around the world and the combat since it's based around gaining buffs from swapping characters or using Pokemon. Genshin has mostly stayed the same in terms of how it wants you exploring a map with the challenges and puzzles along with the regional gimmick whereas WuWa keeps trying new things in each region and outside of chests doesn't really stick with the same way of doing puzzles or exploration so it's different each new area.

Gacha tribalism is retarded; the worst you have to lose is a few hours of your time seeing if you like it or not.
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>>736926425
Thinly veiled twink butthole general
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>>736926425
I quit
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>>736930785
that diamond tattoo just reminded me of the gift. depressing
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>>736931749
>thinly
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stop being gay
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>>736926425
hung twink power bottoms
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>>736930620
he's a God. how can you fuck a god?
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>>736929923
The moons all used to have palaces and shit. Why can't their be moon castle ruins buried in the Earth?
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>>736932204
how?
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>>736932204
But the dick is so good.. holy shit cocks are addicting
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>>736932232
>power bottoms
what does it even mean?
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>>736933680
Aggressive receiver or something like that, as the name might imply
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>>736933170
bruh just stop being gay
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>>736932204
Never. Genshin boys are BUILT for sex
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>>736934363
at least post some bottoms
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>>736932328
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
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>>736933170
I can only say this as a heterosexual man: dicks > vagina
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>>736926567
WUWON
U
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>>736934430
Just because they have a little muscle doesn't mean they aren't cock hungry sluts
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>>736934670
So liking cocks and balls isn’t gay? Thank God, I thought for a moment I might be gay
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>>736934363
I like them big
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>>736926425
played for a few years, paid a little bit of money (about the cost of a new game) got the party I pretty much wanted, the game loop got extremely stale for me, a big part is not being able to skip dialogue, I just don't care to sit through the shit story when I want to play a game / when I have 20 minutes to sit down to do dailies and I'm just watching cutscenes back to back. Everything else about the game just started to feel extremely repetitive and exhausting.
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>>736931640
I've seen a lot of screenshots from the game that look really nice, but are the areas fun to explore? I feel like getting access to random characters with different abilities due to gacha could be a fun system for the exploration to take advantage of.
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>>736926425
I've only played the game up until the geo archon quest and I have to ask, does it get better? I think I may understand why genshin players hate the gameplay.
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>>736926425
No. The protagonist looks outrageously homosexual.
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>>736938627
You should see his boyfriends
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>>736926567
fpbp
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>>736938475
the story... sort of gets better. mondstadt and liyue archon quests were like, nintendoslop boring. some slightly more interesting things happen. but it's still very wordy and convoluted. if you're getting burned out this early, it might not be the game for you.
gameplay wise nothing changes.
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>>736926425
I look like Aether
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>>736938902
Are you boyfriends with Venti or Lyney?
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You're all disappointments
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Kissing Aether!
Holding Aether's hands!
Hugging Aether!
Confessing to Aether!
Unprotected sex with Aether!
Having Aether's babies!
Giggling when Aether whispers stupid stuff to me!
Going out shopping with Aether!
Listening to Aether's heartbeat!
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I'm so glad I dropped this piece of shit game.
The exploration and setpieces and world was fun but by god do they pad out the fucking AQs with dumbfuck endless dialog. And the combat is ass and meta retarded too.

Not even the boys could save the game.
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I will only come back to it if they let me skip the yapfest.
Doesn't even need to be full skip like Star Rail. Just give me the fast line skips like in ZZZ.
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>>736926425
No.
Dropped and picked it up numerous times, but around last year dropped it for good.
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>>736926425
yes, I am enjoying powercreep
>2 3 star dps weapons
uuooohhhh
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>>736939691
sex sex
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>>736939691
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>>736926425
Yes, but stopped paying welkin back in Natlan.
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No I play endfield now. Mihoyo refuses to add a skip button for their infinite word slop and they keep making the girls I like a support you can only play for 0.00000001 seconds
Endfield actually has a skip button, but ive never felt the need to use it. And every girl has animal parts. Cat girls, bird girls, wolf girls, dragon girls. Some I dont even know what they are
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>>736926425
Natlan is where my love for the game died
Its clear they are focused on other games now and are just riding genshin out without putting in the level of care and effort they used to
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>but are the areas fun to explore
Jinzhou (First major country) is fun to explore because they have a lot of variety in the locations and there's tons of mini puzzles and secret chests/achievements scattered around.
Mt. Huanglong (Think Dragonspine) is equally as fun because it's still following that same thought process.
The Black Shores (Think Enkanomiya-sized) is when they started to consolidate some stuff but it's a small area and is more for the interesting visuals and the story aspect of it.
Rinascita (Second major country) was them trying something new with flying but they didn't understand how to structure the map and balance the exploration with it in mind. There's some fun puzzles but it focused a lot more on grouped up chests, combat challenges that had specific requirements and tanky enemies, and less overworld puzzles and challenges.
Avinoleum (Dragonspine-esque map) was cool with its gravity swapping and they started to grasp flying and exploration.
Septimont (Major area in Rinascita, roughly the same size as it) was them finally understanding how to utilize flying vs. exploration, and while grouped up chests still exist they understood how to work with it having huge areas to fly past, more parkour challenges, more puzzles, etc.
Lahai-Roi (Third major country) added in motorcycles and they used their previous experience to structure it way better than they did flying. It utilizes the driving very well.
Roya Frostlands (Major area in Lahai-Roi) added in a new type of motorcycle and huge exhaust vents to make exploring it really fun, though there's not as much to discover as Lahai-Roi by comparison.

Something to keep in mind is that there's also a decent amount of options to move around the world like aerial dodges, wall running, and being able to fling yourself over overhangs when wall running which makes it feel very freeflow in how you want to explore areas. If you like The Evil Within/Ghostwire it also has tons of areas like that.
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Mr. Mo
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>>736938475
If you're talking about the main story:
>Inazuma is the second worst part of the game. Enkanomiya is its sole saving grace.
>Sumeru was great but it kidnaps you a lot for hours of main story content. The first and second deserts are great because of their World Quests, but the third desert feels like "Enough is enough, I am so bored of this".
>Fontaine was a mixed bag because the first half or so of it was a lot of setup and the Fortress of Meropide is the worst part of the entire game to the point that it felt like agony to get through it. Everything past the Fortress is awesome. The Narsizzenkreuz story was also super interesting to piece together.
>Natlan is pretty solid story-wise though there are some fairly long segments like the actual "war" part of the story. All its side areas are interesting, both in terms of story and visuals, and the Saurian buddy was great.
>Nod-Krai is fantastic if you finally wanted answers to a lot of questions in the story, but it's by far the longest story quests in the game. Literally getting kidnapped by the story for 2-4 hours and tons of cutscenes with barely any breaks at all.
Chenyue Vale was just okay, nothing special. It's nice but compared to what we had up to that point it's just okay.
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I quit a few years ago and would love to come back but I'm not slogging through 8000 hours of dialogue. I wonder how much potential money they're losing by not letting people skip the dialogue.
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>>736928686
When is Sandrones banner?
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>>736938627
and that's a good thing!
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>>736926425
I played it from launch to two weeks ago
>time for monthly IT chore comes around
>holy shit this is so fucking unenjoyable
>this is actual garbage why do I spend my time on this
First time I've uninstalled. I don't feel anything. The actual good parts of the game are permanent content that won't go anywhere and I don't care enough about any coming characters to do stupid FOMO chores like a minimum wage burgerflipper. It's nice to be free. I'm grateful to imaginarium theater for showing me the light.
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>one less cheldposter in the community
fuck yes
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>>736926567
I liked how smooth Wuwa played at first, but I lost interest around the time I encountered Shorekeeper. The world is less interesting than Genshin's.
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>>736928686
Hope the Fontaine guys fix her soon.
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>>736941424
I didn't say I'd stop cheldposting
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>>736940073
Support is a better position to be in than DPS. DPS characters become obsolete within a few patches.
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>>736928686
I'd imagine the Snezhnaya mainland would have more exploration, if only because it has a much larger landmass. Ultimately, if you want exploration, what you really need is greater surface area. Nod Krai is pretty fucking tiny. Same with Dornman Port. The Temple of Space is even worse because it's literally just a small group of tiny interconnected floating islands and buildings. The entire area is way too small and narrow to make for much exploration.
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>>736926425
I come back once a year. There's simply too much farming needed in the game to keep up. They need to let you auto-farm domains, every other gacha does.
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>>736942027
>DPS characters become obsolete within a few patches.
Kino, Mavuika, Chasca, Mualani, Neuvilette, and Navia are still completely usable right now with zero issues including in endgame content. The only ones who have really fallen off are Yoimiya, Wrio, Ayaya, Ayayo, Alhaitham, Cyno, Ganyu, Cheld, Lyney, and maybe Kinich. Xiao and Scary Moose are debatable.
Even when they've become less valuable they still hold value in the IT. Hell, I regularly use Euler in there. They're also 100% usable even in overworld content.
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I stopped playing regularly around the end of Sumeru. The grind treadmill got really tiresome and I stopped being interested in the new characters. Logged in briefly for Fontaine but it didn't stick. Sometimes I check in on new characters but none of them are compelling. Seems like the character design really fell off, did they change artists?
I still jerk off to the twinks though.
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skip button status?
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>>736942027
>Obsolete

This game is made for Japanese schoolgirls. You can easily beat the game with the Travaler. Your obsolete DPS is just as capable of clearing the Abyss, they just take ten seconds more.
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no, i just look at cute boy pictures in these threads
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>>736940398
you can skip immediately to whatever region's main quest is current, no need to slog through all the past ones
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I'm amazed a Jap studio never ripped off Genshin's gameplay but removed the gachaslop elements. The character swapping gimmick is fun and could make for a solid 60-ish hour action JRPG.
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>>736943665
The game's size and continuous updates are a major part of the appeal. Most Japanese devs don't actually have the infrastructure to make an open world game of this size. The issue with games like Genshin is that you basically need a large team dedicated solely to just these kinds of games. They're going to devote the next decade or so of their life to this game, assuming it's successful enough to warrant it. And if you try to make a single standalone game that's just sold for $70 one and done, then you're left with something like Breath of the Wild.
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I'll load it up and play for five minutes when I want to do language practice, but it never wins me over.
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>>736926567
I wonder who could be behind this post?
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>>736943790
Obviously something at Genshin's scale wouldn't be possible but it wouldn't need to be.
I just really like character swapping gimmicks.
JONATHAN
CHARLOTTE
JONATHAN
CHARLOTTE
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>>736938475
>I think I may understand why genshin players hate the gameplay.
What?
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>>736943790
Games like Genshin and WuWa also succeed because it's not just the starting area(s). If you sold a standalone game you'd have Mondo + Liyue with a paid Dragonspine DLC for Genshin, and for WuWa you'd have Jinzhou with The Black Shores being a free update and Mt. Huanglong being paid DLC. The stories would have to be done in just those areas, you'd only have characters from those areas, and the mechanics of those areas would be it for the game. I think that's what people seem to forget about these games if they were structured like a retail game. It simply wouldn't exist in the way people think it would.
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I came back to genshin after probably a 2 years break. I had some fun, realized that sereniteapot (my favorite part of genshin) is still underdeveloped, I got force fed shitty Miliastra, got overwhelmed with amount of events with characters i dont know because i am not that far in the game I gave up.
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>>736940397
>the Fortress of Meropide is the worst part of the entire game to the point that it felt like agony to get through it
I'd rather spend five more archon quest chapters in the prison than one more second in N*tlan.
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I would if I could just explore the map and solve puzzles but the fact that I still can't skip cutscenes just makes me avoid the game entirely.
It could be a good comfy open world thing if it wanted to.
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>>736926425
Yes, with mods
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No, I finally dropped it at 6.2. Got tired of all the dry patches. Was already kinda worn out after Shatlan tbf, Nod-Krai didn't seem too bad. But Mihoyo was still taking the piss with their shit content output. Also all the new characters being SS tier was getting annoying.
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>>736943665
too much budget required, pls understand we can only make shitty ps2 rpg games
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>>736926425
I basically do the bare minimum. Archon quests and world quests that might have interesting lore, like Enka and Temple of space.
Mihomo's four niggas in a row is more my speed.
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>DPS characters become obsolete within a few patches.
Noelle is a launch 4* who isn't even a pure DPS; she consolidates damage, healing and shielding. This is a c0r0 team(obviously Noelle is c6 because everyone has gotten 20 duplicates of her by now.) She's still viable for everything except Dire SO. You have the mindset of a broken metachurl.
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I think Genshin Impact prooves you want to try roping in yumes, gooners, and THE GAY COMMUNITY to make as much money as you can for gacha. You also rope in shippers by having playable males and females.
t. doesn't play gacha- only goons to the characters I like.
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>>736944849
>I think Genshin Impact prooves you want to try roping in yumes, gooners, and THE GAY COMMUNITY to make as much money as you can for gacha.
Genshin has some of the least provocative designs in the industry. There also isn't any LGBT representation because it's a Chinese game.

The most you can say is that it appeals to a wide audience instead of trying to pander to males or females specifically but that's done almost entirely through characterization rather than design.
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>>736942787
it's not a technically difficult feature to implement, so I've sadly concluded that one or more of the genshin producers is a retard live-service engagementmaxxer who vetoes
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>>736946517
...me finishing my post.

>who vetoes anything that might reduce user engagement metrics such as "time sitting there mashing through cutscenes"
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>>736942787
this would make my enjoyment of the game become tenfold, the cutscenes are just shit, the story is shit. i just like the characters and open world exploration

this is why i enjoy wuwa more, if you get tired of the cutscenes SKIP !
also wuwa has way less cutscenes for trivial bullshit so when you get one you know its usually worth watching


i was primed to whale a bit for columbina but they forced everyone to wait until the very end of the region to be able to summon for her so i didnt buy anything, i just have the daily check in pack and thats it

meanwhile i spent 150+ on wuwa recently
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>>736946865
Third worlder. I bet you don't even know how you gave yourself away.
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>>736946865
read, nigga
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I know "presentation is king" and all but that doesn't matter for shit if the stuff you're trying to get across is jut boring
wuwa has objectively better presentation than genshin but that lucilla interlude made me wanna die holy shit
genshin likes to chew through its dialogue but even they realized that paimon regurgitates stuff too often and toned that down
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Convince me to come back
>Is Furina coming back any time soon?
>Is Columbina coming back any time soon?
>Is cryo still shit?
>Are Raiden, Nahida, Ayaka, Ganyu even good anymore for abyss?
>Is Noelle even remotely good in Abyss
>Did they ever add more endgame
>Any of the events from the last 3 years that I'll regret missing
>Did the story even improve a little
>Can I swap between Aether and Lumine?
>Are the dailies still vomit inducingly bad?
>Did they ever add actual good skins
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>>736943665
>Genshin's gameplay
It's BotW where combat uses an expanded botw chemistry engine and different characters apply the elements. There are definitely jap combat systems where you can swap between active characters. But I think genshin's implementation in particular is only interesting to the extent that it has interesting teambuilding, and interesting teambuilding in a system like this inherently requires a pretty large roster of playable characters, at least twice the size of most JRPGs. That comes with drawbacks of its own, it can be harder to tell a good story when your cast is really big. Most devs prefer a stronger focus on fewer characters with more development and more fleshed out kits.
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>>736944152
>I got force fed shitty Miliastra
I've ignored it but it bummed me out that the reward from last patch's event (which is usually a 4* character or unique weapon) was some dumb roblox cosmetic
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>>736948215
>the reward from last patch's event (which is usually a 4* character or unique weapon) was some dumb roblox cosmetic
The reward from the last patch's event is a weapon skin for catalysts. The horse was a freebie paid cosmetic for the mode.
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>>736948020
>Is Furina coming back any time soon?
Hard to say. She's a damage% buffer and the game is no longer about damage%.
>Is Columbina coming back any time soon?
Most likely.
>Is cryo still shit?
Escoffier helped Cryo a lot and it's basically been confirmed that there's a heavy focus on Cryo next but everyone expected that.
>Are Raiden, Nahida, Ayaka, Ganyu even good anymore for abyss?
Pretty much every character is still viable for Abyss clears.
>Is Noelle even remotely good in Abyss
See >>736944682
>Did they ever add more endgame
Imaginarium Theater and Stygian Onslaught.
>Any of the events from the last 3 years that I'll regret missing
Not really.
>Did the story even improve a little
Subjective but most people agree Nod-Krai has been handled much better overall. The MC feels like an actual character because they get numerous voice lines every patch. Pacing is much better overall and there are no low points like the prison arc.
>Can I swap between Aether and Lumine?
No.
>Are the dailies still vomit inducingly bad?
Nobody does dailies anymore. You just spend your resin and auto complete them. They don't even have achievements tied to them anymore.
>Did they ever add actual good skins
Alternate outfits will never be a focus of the game like they are in Honkai Impact. It's not going to happen.
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>>736935096
It's never not gay, but it can be heterosexually gay if the penis has a feminine character and the balls resemble tits and female buttcheeks.
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>>736948215
I'd rather have a cosmetic than yet another dogshit weapon that nobody will ever use. They've only released like three genuinely good event weapons in the history of the game.
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>>736926425
Do cute boys like this really like fat ugly bastard dick?
Asking for a friend.
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>>736948262
ohhh ok. I forgot weapon skins existed, I thought it was a fucking hat lel

>>736948443
wasn't lauma's event weapon pretty good for her? But yeah event weapons tend to be spotty. And 4* chars are always nice, at least it can convert into a free roll.

>>736944260
this is the worst thing about millastra actually
>start hyper-monetizing cosmetics beyond the biannual costume releases
>realize modders can change how their characters look for free
>crack down on XXMI, now I have to back to using the 2+ year old GIMI release with worse features for mods
damn chinajews
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>>736926425
Stopped cause i kinda lost interest, but after seeing the mondstadt expansion, i might check what's new
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remember most forgettable twink
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and soon-to-be-forgotten twink
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>>736949017
could've been saved if only it was a cute tomboy...
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>>736926425
Did the main event last patch (horrible experience) for the skin and then stopped. Have cleared the new areas in this patch, will clear the event in a few days and then stop logging in until 6.6. I've played since release but Nod Krai has really worn me down.

>>736947818
>even they realized that paimon regurgitates stuff too often and toned that down
Not sure about that. Archon quests are getting longer and Paimon is generally the character with the most lines of dialogue.

>>736949009
The Mondstadt expansion is, unfortunately, an absolute nothing burger and wasn't even worth releasing.
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>>736947818
I actually like paimon, and I like the regurgitation if it's in a quest that I started 3 weeks ago and then paused.

I also like both genshin and wuwa. I don't understand why you'd feel obligated to dislike one or the other when they're fairly similar. Wuwa is a cheap knockoff of genshin but this is a good thing, and they're both fun to play.
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>>736949195
NO
only stacies
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>>736926425
need more solo art of this guy
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People still playing genshin aren't real. Of all the 20ish people i know who played it, none still are.
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>>736949343
>t. my sister
seriously what is it with chicks and this guy
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>>736944849
>I think Genshin Impact prooves you want to try roping in yumes, gooners, and THE GAY COMMUNITY to make as much money as you can for gacha.
Genshin proves, far more than anything else, that the way to make money is to be a free version of a popular game that releases during a global pandemic.

Like yeah the music is great, it's got likeable characters, exploration is enjoyable, but that's not why it made so much. It was the right thing at the right time.
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>>736949378
then why did no one else profit like they did
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>>736949017
Nah. At least he's useful. Most forgetable is Sethos.
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>>736949368
idk, but I'd like to finger his butt while jerking him off.
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>>736947818
They both have bad stories (since they're gacha games).

Genshin has cool lore and does a better job keeping the whole cast involved, but it's also yapyapyapyap holy shit shut up and the story-to-gameplay ratio of the MSQ was only acceptable in mond, nod krai is basically multiple back-to-back movies.

Wuwa has much better presentation and they let you actually play during the MSQ, but every old character gets dumpstered each patch to focus on (aka advertise) the new one and the protag dickriding is even worse.

Both have absolute garbage character writing where playable chars aren't allowed to have consequential character flaws.

>>736949534
...because they did not release during a global pandemic?
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>>736949732
>because they did not release during a global pandemic?
why not
it was free money
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>>736949732
>...because they did not release during a global pandemic?
lots of games did that and failed. genshin had the appeal
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>>736949140
I'm fine with edgelord twinks
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>>736949378
The pandemic helped but it would have been massively successful even without it. The game had basically no advertising(go ahead and check out google search trends prior to release; interest didn't really exist) but it still managed to be successful because it was globally appealing and had unheard of levels of aesthetic presentation for an anime game for the time. Hell, even to this day it still has some of the best aesthetic style in the entire industry.
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>>736942027
Truth Nuke
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>>736951434
>but it would have been massively successful even without it
I don't know if I can agree. The BotW ripoff controversy paired with Covid is what actually seemed to propel its popularity and get people to notice it. Everyone was reporting on the Chinese guys going to Mihoyo's booth and shaming them for being such blatant copies of BotW.
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>>736949732
>every old character gets dumpstered each patch to focus on (aka advertise) the new one and the protag dickriding is even worse.
Yeah, this is so bad in WuWa that it reaches the point of being comical. They're so unashamedly blatant about it and every new character sucks off the MC in the exact same way. Like take every single aspect of fascination that various characters in Genshin display for the Traveler and condense that into a single package; that's essentially every shilled character in WuWa.
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>>736951510
The BotW comparisons alone would have gotten people to try it because it was still fucking massive at the time. Every single developer and journalist site was still glazing BotW and the influence it had on the gaming industry.
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I’ll play it again if they put it on switch 2
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>>736927947
If men had curves like this and didn't sound, smell, or age like men and had alopecia universalis outside the scalp. I might actually turn gay.
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>The last 5 or so new areas have all been half-water
Wouldn't be so bad if we could still dive.
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>>736951510
>The BotW ripoff controversy
I still swear this was completely astroturfed into oblivion. Aside from chinks doing weird shit I barely saw any GI vs BotW slapfights on any forum including this one. Sure, it's likely mihoyo knew that they could coast off the blatant similarities in the initial trailer but I rarely see any wars hapening between fanbases.
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>>736951434
Oh it would've been a moneymaker without covid, but not >$1bn/yr type of insane revenue. I don't think you fully appreciate the situation in china at the time and the domestic impact it had.
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>>736951771
It was a small period of time when they were showcasing it for the first time at E3. People showed up with their Switches and I think PS4s and publicly shamed them. Outside of that it was a few Youtube comparisons, but the thing at the actual showcase was what was heavily reported at the time.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/08/random_zelda_fan_smashes_ps4_in_rage_as_breath_of_the_wild_clone_genshin_impact_is_revealed
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/random_raging_zelda_fan_smashes_ps4_over_breath_of_the_wild_copycat_genshin_impact
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>>736951771
>I still swear this was completely astroturfed into oblivion. Aside from chinks doing weird shit I barely saw any GI vs BotW slapfights on any forum including this one.
It mostly came from the Japanese but it did exist in the West as well from Nintendo cultists.
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>>736951896
>>736951967
Yes I know about those what I mean is a few months later after peole tried the game most of the rioting completely halted since alot of people who weren't used to gacha mechanics saw a different picture of reality or the ones who stayed saw that the game was mechanically different and everyone split. It's almost like an accidental publicity stunt.
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>>736932497
According to leakers, we're getting moon map expansion in 6.7. Which is also sandrone's come back debut.>>736933680
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>>736932204
Where's my playable MILF Hoyo?
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Haven't missed out a single login day since day 1 and spent over a thousand bucks on it

Help me Bros
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>>736954883
People will call you crazy for investing a thousand dollars into something you get enjoyment out of over six years and try to tell you to get a hobby that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars per year.
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Which genshin boy gives the best head?
Asking for a friend
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>>736957498
more importantly which ones gives the best cuddles?
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>>736952681
Damn, Klee's mom looks like THAT?!
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>>736926425
no i stopped around when fontaine was released
and i havent played any other open world gacha since, since they are all exactly the same game
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>>736926425
Let's put it this way. I started cleaning my room because wading through dialog got so tedious. It wasn't just usual do the laundry, wipe the desk and vacuum the floors either. It was flip the bed and vacuum my bedframe from a years worth of dust type of cleaning. No holds bar everything must be clean. I finished cleaning my room before the dialog was done. I won't be going back until there is a option to skip dialog.
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>>736958475
Why even bother playing the game at all if you're not interested in what's happening? Wuthering Waves has a skip button, but I simply stopped playing because I was so uninterested in the plot.
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>>736958475
>Gensin is Jordan Peterson in desguise
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>>736927947
Imagine being aether and every night Paimon gives you a footjob
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>>736926425
Dropped during 6.0, started and never missed a day from version 2.2.
I was trying to play both ZZZ and this game, which ended up taking too much time and burning me up. On top of that, ZZZ's better story, story telling, and general better game quality made me more and more frustrated with Genshin until nodkrai killed the only good aspect left in the game, the exploration.
Debating if I should come back in the case Genshin finally gets a skip button, or a tailor made Hu Tao artifact set, which i doubt. Particularly the skip button, if it ever happens it will after the main plot wraps up, or never
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>is worse than Bennett in your path
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>>736960789
Bennett is circle impact. The sooner that era of the game is phased out the better. I will gladly take a damage loss if it means no longer being confined to a small circle.
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>>736929923
i don't remember shit from the plot, what's the deal with the moon?
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>>736960789
>the past year has been year of the super powerful off-field damage dealers
>she buffs off-fielder damage
read the room pal
just kidding, her being a hexencuck ruins her lmao.
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>>736960789
Hexen in general was a big fucking mistake. What a dogshit mechanic.
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>old characters are substantially better than they were before but with some minor limitations
>REEEEEEE STOP IT MIHOYO STOP MAKING CHARACTERS BETTER
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>>736964226
The main issue with Hexerei is that it restricts parties too much.
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>>736964278
Anon that's the whole point. Hexerei is supposed to feel like old 1.x teams.
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>>736964319
Is that really the point?
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>>736926425
No. I quit after climbing Dragonspine mountain. I realized, looking down from the frigid peak after solving all the puzzles to make my way up the frozen mountainside, that the game would never be more kino than that.
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>>736964278
I don't think it's really any worse than nightsoul blessing or lunar reactions, it just looks like that's the angle Mihoyo wants to go more towards. At least Hex has mostly resurrected old characters as viable again.
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>>736964360
What else would it be? Hexerei was intentionally balanced to be strong but not overshadow the regional gimmick of Lunar teams. There are a ton of teams revolving around those 1.x characters that are now ~120k DPS which is solid for everything except Dire SO.
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>>736926425
Yeak, I liek it. Can't wait to start explooooring the next region, though I didn't fully finished the previous addition.
Also how is Linnea, lads? I have Zibai, though she already hits like a truck and Geo has no shortage of supports
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Do we have one for Nod Kino?
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>>736927137
You and every genshin girl
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>>736943665
>The character swapping gimmick is fun
I mean, literally Xenoblade 2, switching youre Blade waifus in battle, launching specials and shit, three years prior.
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>>736941003
>playing genshin with frens
>we do IT at the same time while in vc
>we trade units, I give my C2 Zibai and a friend gave me his lvl 95 Noelle
>show him on stream how his Noelle works in my Zibai's lunar crystallize team
>we have fun
>we don't bother above floor 10 because it's not worth the primos or the headache
>repeat every month
>mfw the cheldtard was malding for whalebait endgame content that pays 50 more primos per month
Self-inflicted misery. If you spend more than 1 run per month in IT or Abyss, it's your issue.
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>>736964960
I spend one run per month generally. Spiral Abyss has become a lot easier after the introduction of Stygian Onslaught.

Imaginarium Theater is basically a character check and luck check. It becomes dramatically easier the more characters you have as you have far more freedom to choose which character you can bring along and which you can leave out. That said, there's a significant luck factor, which you can somewhat mitigate by being careful in what characters you choose in the beginning stages. Overall, it's kind of a pain in the ass, but I never really have to do more than one run so long as I'm careful. That said, I do actually want to collect all the cards so I always do the highest difficulty. If it were just a few primos, I might not actually bother, but they had to fucking use tarot cards instead and I just can't fucking resist.

Stygian Onslaught is a pain but I'll usually give the higher difficulties at least one go per month. It's something you want to engage with anyway since it's the best way to farm artifacts while you can.
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>>736964960
Abyss and SO are fun to replay though.
Only IT is a chore to play.
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>>736965217
Speaking of luck in the theater, it's really understated how much it's a factor.
Speaking of which, how do you guys prioritize your picks? I tend to pick up as much characters I can in the beginning, to make sure I can keep my good cards for the last fights and the 2 additional ones, but then maybe picking up the stats boost would be better...
Getting the rare card that gives you back points when you pick up a character is a gamechanger for me. If I have it soon, I can breeze through this shit with far more ease
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>>736949017
>sculpt girl
>call her a male
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>>736965335
Prioritize your shittier characters at first. Having a bunch of characters you don't actually want to use in favor of saving them for the endgame only clogs up your roster. If you really want to save everyone for the end, pick the characters you don't mind throwing out early in the beginning stages.
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Baby-making sex with Mualani
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I miss Her Excellency, the Almighty Narukami Ogosho, God of Thunder.
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the lack of Jojo memes with Varka after his release is disappointing
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>>736965657
Who is Shion?
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Why does this site keep dying?
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Here she is
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>>736966329
Also what the fuck is going on with the site
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boys.......
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>>736966356
Oh, so she IS from Nod Krai.
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You bros ready for the gecko tomorrow?
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>>736926425
I quit after five years after Nod.2. Disliked the entire Nod Krai AQ, didn't like anyone besides Ineffa, game was clearly leaving me behind which is ok I played so much of this stupid game. I don't resent it or anything.
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>>736966483
>have Zibai, her sig, Linnea, and C6 Illuga
It will be a cakewalk. Good luck for Geolets though.
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>>736966329
5*?
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I quit all gacha except star rail

It's the only gacha I actually enjoy the gameplay though hoyo has been doing its best to kill all teambuilding and my enjoyment of the game as lately
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>>736926425
Dropped it sorta early (inazuma?) because it's written by incompetent bugmen and the terrible story is forced onto the player.
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do I get nicole for masturbation reasons or just save for sandrone
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>>736966613
4
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>>736964916
Xenoblade doesn't play anywhere close to how Genshin does. Dark Cloud had a character swapping gimmick 26 years ago but anyone trying to compare its combat system to Genshin's is a fucking retard.
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>>736926567
OH NO NO NO
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>>736966646
>HSR
>enjoy the gameplay
It's one of the worst turn-based gachas I ever played, I don't get how anyone could like it.
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>>736926425
I'm watching doom or zenith now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7hKJz_ZdL4
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No I don't, the only gacha I'm still playing are Wuwa and Endfield
played every hoyo game since 3rd but they just reach their peak so early it's not worth to keep playing them after a time
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>>736966740
I was going to use the "Bro that wasn't Genshin that was just ZZZ" post but that doesn't even apply anymore. How pathetic.
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>>736966741
When was the last time you played

Sorta recently they added a more difficult endgame mode that really brought life back into the game for me. I love spending hours on a spreadsheet planning my turns and trying to squeeze clears out of non-meta characters
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No I don't, the only gacha I'm still playing are Wuwa and Endfield
played every hoyo game since 3rd but they just reach their peak so early it's not worth to keep playing them after a time
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>>736966850
I played 1.0 to 1.2 and hated it the entire time.
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>>736955582
is gambling a hobby or an addiction?
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>>736967481
>retard
Gambling is not the same thing as gacha. Let me know when the lottery has a guaranteed jackpot.
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>>736967626
>low-iq moronic babble
holy brainwashed cuck
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>state a fact that he can not argue against
>"hurr durr... how me am win dis? me know! ad hominem!"
Concession accepted! Thanks for making this so easy.
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>>736944682
You should probably swap out that Furina if you're planning on using that team against the gecko
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Only played it for about three hours. I really like the porn of those Fatui women putting crests on the female characters and raping them with futa cocks though.
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>>736969150
Nah, can't swap out Furina without significantly lowering team damage. I've tried basically every team comp I can think of and Furina, despite her buff barely doing anything for Columbina/Linnea, still contributes a lot of value due to Hydro Resonance, Hydro particles, Hydro application and very high skill uptime. Noelle alone contributes a ton of healing and if more was ever needed you can just burst with Linnea.
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>>736966483
it's gonna be a rough, exhausting day for navia
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>>736969436
NTA you replied to, but replacing Furina for Chiori had a 8K team dps decrease; however, i think against the Gecko this team will have the advantage since he loses Geo RES after falling.
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>>736961468
teyvat used to have 3 moons created by niebelung to govern over the land while he was gone searching after being spooked by a prophecy told to him by an ayy. The moonsisters used to be incarnations of thier moons authorites but niebelung in his infinite wisdom locked them away when the HP arrived causing him to lose the fight. And have 2 of them destroyed in the process. Naturally the sisters die when thier moon is destroyed but as a last ditch effort they met columbina at the end (start?) of time and transfered thier authories onto her so that atleast one moon would live.
Bina however returned alot of that authority back to the land (Nod Krai) as kuuvaki.
That's the tl;dr. Convoluted? This is how genshin lore usually works out
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>>736926425
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where are boys?
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>>736970863
kill yourself and take OP and his faggot dog whistle with you
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>>736970593
It's doubtful. The problem with running triple Geo is you completely obliterate the Hydro aura and can't trigger any Lunar Crystallize reactions. This is a big drawback for Noelle considering one of her biggest strengths with Lunar Crystallize now being a thing is that she has no ICD on her attack. She triggers a ton of reactions. By swapping Furina or Chiori you're gaining Chiori's Geo hits but you're losing a vast majority of your Lunar turret shots.
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I like the new insane twink
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>>736971374
that's a big butt
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My wife, Furina de Fontaine.
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>>736931640
The Area there has to be restored by doing the subquest. It's visually quite nice as you teleport into pictures and phase them into reality.
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>>736926425
i wish i was, but i don't want to. it's too toxic for me. i couldn't manage to keep playing it and i quit. now i'm incredibly tempted by other gachas but i won't dare dip even one toe in the water.
i think i'm one of those "vulnerable to addiction" people
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>>736971678
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I got Columbina but lost interest and I didn't even lvl her. I was at the point where I was lvling lots of characters for the theater so that's why I had no exp. I usually played on and off but I was addicted for the last year or so and getting all the feathers from that endgame and 36 staring abyss which I never did before but I think I'm done with gacha games. I just got burned out on gacha in general and just want to play only single player games (offline)
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>>736926425
yes
temple of space was kino
kinda bummed out over how smaller and more barren explorations has gone, despite being absolutely packed and fun in the little there is there
my cope is that snezhnaya will combine the best of both worlds will give us back sumeru tire huge exploration content with the same high quality as now
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>>736964067
>>736964278
The real problem with Hexerei is that even while it's better than nothing Mond only teams are still complete crap compared to Nod, Natlan, or even Fountaine teams. Probably a Sumeru team as well could do way better.
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>>736952681
My daugherwife Klee is gonna stay beautiful when she grows up.
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>>736966850
>more difficult endgame
So you have to spend even more money to get the meta teams that will have cattered content to them for a month before jumping to the new meta with new five stars?
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I won't touch Genshin Impact anymore until they implement a Skip button that skips dialogue and cutscenes.

I'm also waiting for Vicineko's Mona animation. Cya in 2027.
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>>736965335
>how do you guys prioritize your picks?
You get to tier 2 in the elemental buffs as early as possible and make sure you are taking a random character pull or two in between that and basing it off of your current roster. You want 2 or even 3 of the characters in any given stage to be filler so that you can extend the good ones as long as possible.
I still have no idea how people are built up enough to do stuff like star the card stages though. I've done it a whopping one time to one single stage since they added the feature.

>>736971834
I'm getting there. Sort of juggling multiple games so I did a full exploration of the map while ignoring the main quest.
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Genshin dies tomorrow. Any last words?
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>>736978675
>Mongdive
The jokes write themselves.
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>>736959680
Chinks are proto Jews after all
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>>736926425
Unfortunately.
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>>736978675
Good luck!
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>>736978675
Sometimes you hear a games name and you just know it's gonna be a low effort temu concord-tier shovelware.

>Mongil: Star Dive
>Blue Protocol: Star Resonance
>Wuthering Waves
>Duet Night Abyss
>Neverness to Everness
>Limit Zero Breakers
>Axis of Eternity
>Echoes of Vision
>Honkai Nexus Anima
>Seven Deadly Sins: Origin
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>>736926425
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>>736980183
this is me right now.
I used to do every quest, every world quest in Mond and Liyue until completion. Then with Inazuma as well since it was the new region, but around Tsurumi island I got a bit of burnout, and by Sumeru I got world quest fatigue, as well as many character story quests and hangouts still untouched.
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>>736980183
kid in a candy shop .webm
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>>736980183
This is me for every quest on chinkland and chinkland 2 and underground chinkland
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>>736980183
Weak.
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>>736980183
im holding out for that skip button
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>>736980663
I still do, and I still hope for that skip button.
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>>736926425
God I wish boys were real
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>>736931640
Here is how it looks when restored.
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yeah, i'm thinking kino
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>that Dahlia anecdote
Shut up. Shut the fuck up
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>>736926425
Dropped for Wuwa. I just can't stand an MC that feels like a side character in their own story.
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>>736982491
>all characters have to praise me and suck my dick constantly! it's all about me me me!
you can tell it's a game made for koreans
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>>736982589
>putting words in my mouth
Just say you like being in the cuckchair faggot
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>>736982676
>Playing a gacha where nothing happens
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How come this guy never posts in mihoyo gacha threads?
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%22ban%20gachafaggots%22/
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>>736982732
Huh?
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>>736982732
he does, click some of those posts
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>>736982772
love Sandy
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>>736982914
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>>736982914
>Supposedly going to be Electro instead of Geo when her entire design screams "Geo".
Made me sad.
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>>736926425
I played almost everyday for 3 years.
Then Natlan happened and I decided to take a break.
Then Nod Krai introduced absurd levels of power creep and that was the final push for me to uninstall forever.

Maybe I’ll go back if they finally introduce a way to replay old events like HSR but I’m enjoy my freedom from gacha in the meantime.
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>>736926425
Haven't in almost 4 years and my life didn't improve at all
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>>736983196
What do you think about Nicole being pryo?
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>>736983241
>Then Nod Krai introduced absurd levels of power creep and that was the final push for me to uninstall forever.
Congratulations you're a retard.
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>>736983336
Same deal, she was clearly Hydro or Electro as the very least. I imagine like Nicole they're gonna change her look to justify the Electro but it's a sad day for John's stonks and the best element. I can't truly complain, Zibai and Linnae have been a true boon for Geo stonks and I am eating very good.
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>what were they thinking making Beidou Electro? She's clearly supposed to be Pyro!
The entire game doesn't have to be color-coded.
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>>736983435
>L*nnea
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>>736983196
Well, her current design screams geo...haha...
don't look at the new artifact sets
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so everyone's saving for Sandy now?
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>>736983513
Yes it does. I demand it.

>>736983546
>Not having both.
Couldn't be me. I even have three copies of her sword (One of which Zibai is using and one of which I will give to Albedo when I get him). Albedo is the only Geo I'm missing at this point.

>>736983616
I'll throw like 40 at Nicole since I have Varka but Sandy is my priority.
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>>736983616
760 pulls saved up so far.
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>>736926425
No, for two reasons, one, is not on Steam and two, the endless yapping about uninteresting shit, had the same problem with Wuwa, too much dialogue. One thing about Genshin I liked over Wuwa is the combat, while Wuwa is more skill based the particle vomit is genuinely unbearable, it gives me eye strain.

I liked some other gacha games like Nikke but all characters never stop talking, are they all like that? Jesus I like the gameplay and the characters themselves too, but I spend more time reading dialogue than actually playing, are they all like this? Are asians so into endless dialogue they have to put it in everything? It's genuinely tiresome.
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>>736983724
>but I spend more time reading dialogue than actually playing
Because that's what most people want. It's not like you can't explore for dozens of hours at a time, you're free to do so outside of the Aranara content and I guess desert 2. I don't get this distaste for 20+ minute dialogue scenes as long as you're given reprieve which these games have plenty of. Yakuza games have sometimes 40+ minute cutscenes and story segments but as long as you aren't rushing the main story this is never a problem because you can tackle it at your own leisure. Even in the Temple of Space you can just ignore the main story and explore the entire map immediately once you get outside.
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What I want Sandrone to do when she comes back: Talk about Alain & friends
What is going to happen when Sandrone comes back: COLUMBINAAAAAAAAAA
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>>736983885
The dialogue is clearly padded to waste time in these gacha games unlike single player games.
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>>736926567
Hahaha no way. That's pure loser shit. No self-respecting man would leave Mihoyo for a fucking copycat.
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One guy asked yesterday and didn't get an answer but does anyone know what this is about? There are no cubes anywhere in the area and the rotating platform only has two chests.

>>736984028
To a degree, sure, but it's still fairly reasonable overall. I never understood any of the complaints about the length of the story missions let alone the need for a skip button. It's always been a vocal minority and there's nothing stopping you from just ignoring the story for hours upon hours. Nearly all the complaints always seem to be from people who procrastinated and don't want to touch the story content despite playing a game built entirely around story content and exploration equally.
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>>736983724
>is not on Steam
I remember back in the day when /v/ didn't need a game launcher to hold their hand.
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>>736984097
it's just more genshin
also, MARCHO SEXO
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>>736978675
name is terrible
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>>736984468
A TOAST TO something
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>>736984440
Oh yeah, what is a Genshin then?
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>>736926425
Isn’t this a pedo game and gacha slop on top of that? Why on earth would people play this garbage?
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>>736983408
>36 star every abyss between 3.6 and 5.8 playing characters I actually like and never spending any money.
>Nod Krai drops and says roll x character or kys.
Fat Xiao hands typed this post.
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>>736978675
I'd rather wait for Azur Promilia.
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>>736984654
it's what the people with powers are called in the game
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Game of the Decade
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>>736926425
im reinstalling. i heard eulas gonna be good again
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>>736984828
>silly cat leaks the new super secret power for next zone
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>>736926425
Day 1 Player here and No I stopped around the first few months of Sumeru.
It was a timeframe where the entire leaks were just homoshit for more than half a year and I kind of dipped out forever.
I have fond memories of the first few months during kungflu and being amazed how good it ran even on my mid tier phone(played on PC though at home). Censoring the girls and the atrocious removal of that one Nun's titties and even going so far as nearly removing them completely was turning me off massively over the course of my play time.
Rolling for CunnyGod was the last good thing I did over there. From what I saw the entire Character design team deserves to be put in front of the wall these days. Terrible shit they churn up.
Ganyu Feet tho
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>>736984951
>playing the most family friendly pegi 12 game and demanding lewd fan service
>thinking of gay sex the moment he sees a male character on screen
may this mental illness never find me
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>>736984794
You are not forced into anything other than for Dire SO which almost nobody actually gives a shit about. I steamrolled through Abyss with c0 Widsith Klee carrying a full 1.x Hexerei team. Stop being a doomsaying retard.
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>>736985134
I can't imagine running defense for Hoyo in 2026. Stygian is a shit gamemode with bosses designed to frustrate you unless you have specific characters.
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>>736984951
I shouldv'e stopped there probably too. Game peaked with Ganyu and last good design was Nahida. Got them both c6 for free since no one else has really compared, but they are both power crept to shit sadly now. Linnea cutest character for me in long time
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>>736985213
>retard gets BTFO
>s-s-shill!
Next time just admit you're a retard. Imagine unironically complaining about a game mode that you can get all primogems from after a single day of fresh account progress.
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>>736985292
shit taste
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It's funny how the only way to make Geo good is to either completely ignore the crystallize mechanic or otherwise use it outside its intended purpose. I can't way to see how they make superconduct completely and utterly different on Sandrone whilst also completely failing to benefit phys characters at all.
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>>736985396
That child looks like a retarded Homoyo Character Designer got inspired by a Sonic Deviantart design and forced it onto the potato face loli frame. Fucking horrific.
The one on the right is a horrible chink knockoff Aigis.
How the fuck did they greenlit this shit?
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>>736985579
trying too hard
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>>736926425
Yes it's a good game. Haven't really tried other gachas lately.
Last one I tried was WuWa but it felt extremely cheap (I only tried it in its 1.0) and CZN which has cognitive dissonance about what they want their gameplay to be.
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>>736952681
Probably never ever at this rate
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>the only decent/good characters that even still use Bennett are just Mavuika and Arle
>Nicole improves neither of them
Easiest skip of the decade. What were they thinking?
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>>736966850
The problem with Star Rail is that it doesn't have a lot of depth. 90% strategy happens before the fight even begins with the team selection and setup.
Not being able to clear feels somewhat bad because it's generally not your fault because you don't have the characters the game wants you to have.
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>>736985213
primos are easy to get and the highest tier reward is a weapon skin you keep for 30 days
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>>736985534
Hoyo just doesn't realize that making an element good requires characters of a different element to want the element you are looking to buff.
They way to save geo has always been to make good non-geo characters that have some kind of crystallize synergy.
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>>736984951
hey that's my wife
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>>736985719
I roll for my dick, not for the meta that'll change the following patch anyway.

>>736985213
Stygian doesn't give primogems past the easy tier you can clear with your eyes closed or even in co-op if you're new. It's the best way to provide value to everyone, from the newbies to the whales who have Dire to play with.
This doesn't apply to many other competing games.
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>>736985832
All crystallize does is make shields. If you want to make it good, you have to make it do something completely different. It's the same problem superconduct has. All superconduct does is reduce physical resistance. You want to make it good, you have to make it do something completely different.
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>>736985674
Alice LOVE
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>>736985937
You could give characters buffs if they have a Crystallize shield on them, make it so the shield itself reflects damage until it breaks, or make it so if you have a shield it enhances other elements similar to Lunar (Like the element of the shield causes effects to appear like water snakes via Hydro that slap enemies or something). You can still work around the shield itself it's just mostly going to be boring without adding onto it.
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>>736985534
>>736985937
Only Navia can use it effectively. God geo is a mess, now it's all abuot her, Zibai and Linnea on S tier while the rest of the characters are plebs in comparison including Zhong li.
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>>736985937
Superconduct is bad because physical damage is neglected.
Crystallize is a gimped reaction for sure, but geo characters could be indirectly buffed by making a top tier support that isn't geo, but requires crystallize to function. Kind of like how Furina makes every party wide healer more viable.
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>>736985937
Just you wait until Stellar Crystallize. And after that, Solar Crystallize.
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>>736985534
Crystallize as a mechanic is a complete and utter failure because miHoYo attributed way, waaay too much value to defensive utility back in 1.0. It's why Noelle/Qiqi/Barbara don't generate energy and don't even have good uptime on their defensive utility. They realized how stupid this was after the game launched but by that point it was already too late.
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>>736986125
Navia "uses it effectively" by completely transforming its purpose into something absolutely different.

>>736986129
Physical is pointless because elemental infusion and Geo exists. There's no reason to have phys in this game at all because nearly every DPS with the exception of Eula and Xinyan primarily gets their damage out of their main element. And now, because Eula and Xinyan are the last and only bastion of phys, making dedicated phys supports is effectively worthless because such supports would ONLY benefit those two characters.
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>>736986225
Razor ascends with phys damage too and they managed to correct him.
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>>736986393
They fixed him by making him Electro. He's a better Electro DPS than Raiden is now.
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>>736986218
Noelle doesn't have shit energy regen to prevent healing. She is a dps, shielder and healer. They had to give her some drawback to not make her omnipotent.
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>>736986469
She has the stats of a 4-star. That's her drawback. Even if she's good, she'll never truly compete with a good 5-star DPS. The inherent reduced statistics of 4-stars should be all the drawbacks 4-stars need.
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>>736986393
They didn't fix it like the guy is saying where you focus on his physical attacks, they essentially just slapped an Electro infusion onto him and shoved everything into it.
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>>736926425
No, I dropped it during Sumeru. I do plan on going back when the main story is complete so I can play through the entire story though.



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