Why is the story so much better than Dark Souls despite being the same fantasy JRPG slop?
GRRM added a bunch of incest and rape (his specialty)
>>736947545more endings = better story
There's a story???
The "story" felt the same as souls but with a bunch more names and characters to justify its grandiose
>>736948613did you play dark souls 2 and 3? their whole contributions to the lore is just adding 5000 new literally whos
>>736948945Yeah, but honestly I never paid attention to any lore in them. Dark souls doesnt feel like a story that needs further explanation for any "narrative" reason. The ambiguity is part of the appeal i think
>>736947545Explain the story with zero help from YouTube. None of the soulslop has real story, we don't play them for story. We are here to roll around and complain about pvp.
>>736947545I thought Elden Ring had good lore until the DLC dropped and Nightrein came out and I realized that Miyazaki has not once ever actually had a grad vision. It really is all just bullshit that the fans pretend comes together to make a coherent story.
>>736949232This is cancer. Games were far, far better before that faggot miyaslopi and his horde of tourists pushed the idea that a handful of spitballing notes and YouTube fanfiction constitutes and acceptable story.It's not AmBiGuItY. It's laziness, stupidity, and enshittification of what's SUPPOSED to be an interactive medium to have the fragments of clown nonsense, """characters""" that refuse to explain any of it like any sapient creature instinctively would, and refuse to let the player character ask any questions of these gibbering dipshits.Elden Ring is just as bad, shoehorning the player into the role of mute gormless murderhobo while all of the characters asking him to do stuff for them refuse to actually TELL HIM WHAT TO DO.Zanzibart Forgive Me dogshit and a blight on the medium of video games.
>>736947545>storytheres no story in elden ring you dumb nigger. it doesnt even have a fucking plot. its mishmash of cut and paste snippets from martin they paid millions for that go nowhere and grafted onto a dark souls plot that was left over renaming chosen undead to tranished, etc. didnt even try to explain souls, fog walls, invaders, etc.
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>>736949575Bro, the games don't need some giant storyline. Big lords do the icky now go take care of him with destiny's blicki. Bam story written tah-tah
>>736949592>didnt even try to explain soulsthere are no souls you fucking earthworm, runes are explained to death.
Explain the story to me.
>>736949783You are one stupid nigger.
>>736951865the popequeen broke the platonic forms and now shit's fucked. you're just the most fucked up little guy ever. ew. gross. look at how small and fucked up you are. time for you to go link up with the goddessussy and do what thou wilt
>>736951865You wouldn't get it
>>736949575If I want to enjoy stories, I'll read novels, comics and manga or watch movies and anime. Games are for gameplay. All games really need is a background lore to justify the artstyle and themes, but it should be up to the player to make his story.If anything I'd say Soulslikes, while miles better than your typical WRPG and specially JRPG trash, still have too much story.
>>736947812And Miyazaki took off any interactivity in the world (his speciality)kinda net neutral
I think it's much worse, but enjoy what you enjoy anon.
>>736951865Let's see how well AI will do.>The story of Elden Ring centers on the Lands Between, a realm once ruled by the immortal Queen Marika, who shattered the Elden Ring—a collection of reality-altering runes that governed the laws of life, death, space, and time. This act triggered The Shattering, a catastrophic war among Marika's demigod children, each seizing a Great Rune shard and plunging the world into chaos. >You play as a Tarnished, a former exile who was summoned back to the Lands Between by the guidance of grace to defeat the demigods, reclaim the Great Runes, and mend the Elden Ring to become the new Elden Lord. The narrative reveals that Marika and Radagon were once one being; Radagon was Marika's consort and later became her second self, and together they had children like Miquella and Malenia, while Radagon's previous union with Rennala produced Ranni, Radahn, and Rykard. >Key events leading to the game's start include the Night of the Black Knives, where Ranni orchestrated the murder of Godwyn the Golden using stolen Rune of Death to defy fate, and Marika's subsequent decision to break the Elden Ring in grief and anger. The game's conclusion depends on the player's choices, leading to one of multiple endings that determine whether the Golden Order is restored, the Frenzied Flame consumes all, or a new Age of Stars is ushered in.
>>736949550Everyone knows that the real Elden Ring (as envisioned by Michael Zaki) is base game only. Everything else boils down to From trying to milk the IP for all it's worth and score some wokeness brownie points with that Radahn/Miquella faggotry.
>Could this be a Elden Ring?I wish I knew, tarnigga.
>>736947545So, why did Godfrey only appeared at the end and did not try to become the Elden Lord again like ages ago? Specially considering he was the most likely of the Tarnished to succeed.Did he only returned after the Erdtree was burning or was it that he refused to do that?
>>736954954He's been on his own parallel journey and got there about the same time you did
>>736947545You only say that because it's more accessible.
>>736954954I like to think he already did his long bullshit proving quest journey thing when he first was becoming Elden Lord, so he just waited to see if any of the new soft generation Tarnished were up for it. You were, so he showed up at the end to say goodbye to his son that he loved but that his bitch of a wife hated and then to beat the shit out of you.
>>736947545What story retard? There is none.
>>736947545it hasn't been ruined by sequels yet. give it time though.
>>736949592>Drones ignoring the invaders partThey just didn't bother to explain other worlds, invasions etc.It's simply a step back from Souls where they did do that.
>>736952112Kill yourself retard. Video games is the best storytelling medium.
>>736947545What do you mean? Story as in plot, if thats the case then no, ER story is a bumbling mess of convoluted shit while DaS is very straightforwardDo you mean lore? If so then no, From's worldbuilding quality had dropped drastically since das2Do you mean character arcs? I would say they are about the same outside of the two big standouts of das with Solaire and Sigmeyer, which would give a slight edge to das over ERI genuinely cant think of a story aspect ER does better than DaS, gravitas maybe?
>>736951909>Wtf this game didn't spell out everything in clear detail so it doesn't have a story;(Actually it does but a moron like yourself doesn't understand subtext. Go back to playing video games where characters announce everything they're doing and thinking. Seems like your type of speed
>>736961386>akschually this incoherent half-baked nonsense makes perfect sense because *youtube video full of asspulled headcanons*Okay tranny.
>>736952735Holy fuck that is dogshit.>Darksouls>People are zombies>Fallen kingdom>Kill dudes for souls>Sacrifce souls to bring life backElden Ring>Pretentious garbage
>>736952735>Marika and Radagon were once one beingI hate stupid shit like this. Its not mysterious, its just weird. Just say Radagon came from who the sky or something. Its vague enough to mean many things. Not have a woman produce a male half, because reasons, then fucks it to produce children. Defeats the purpose of having children when she can just split into another being.
>>736953714I think its just Fromsoft misusing the word consort and faggots and closeted knob gobblers running with it because they are getting representation.
>>736952735why is a collection of runes a ring?
>>736952112This is brainlet cope and pure enshittification. Video games are a storytelling medium whether smoothbrain rock dumb brownoids like yourself like it or not. We are not going to make them lesser because you are too stupid to keep up, you double nigger.
>>736949783>Bro, the games don't need some giant storylineTrue. You can certainly get away with "The princess is to the right of the screen, oh no your princess is in another castle keep running right!"But if you CHOOSE to have a grandoise storyline of an entire fictional world with half a dozen gods and twenty different characters with their own motivations all pinballing off each other in a war that makes the 30 Years War look like a game of dodgeball, then it is incumbent upon you to actually WRITE IT. And not just dump Zanzibart Forgive Me onto random items scattered all over the place after a 2 minute exposition dump opening cutscene and leave the other 90% of what should have been the fucking plot to YouTube fanfiction videos, because your development was such a badly managed clownshow that had you had to cut every already nonsense questline in half.
>>736963017It's not just the Radahn thing, you have count Ymir, a male character, trying to be a "mother" to the fingers.The body type A/B faggotry was the canary in the coalmine, although I'm pretty sure it was slapped on the game after development was finished, which is why base game ER was exempt from its influence.The DLC, however, got gimped and pozzed with no mercy.
>>736963017>>736963017It's not just the Radahn thing, you have count Ymir, a male character, trying to be a "mother" to the fingers.The body type A/B faggotry was the canary in the coalmine, although I'm pretty sure it was slapped on the game after development was finished, which is why base game ER was exempt from its influence.The DLC, however, got gimped and pozzed with no mercy.
>>736947545>like 10 full cryptic vague sentences spoken by NPCs in the whole game>all the "lore" is hidden in cryptic vague obscure items descriptions>99.999999% of people playing the game couldn't explain a single story element of the game, an all of the lorefags are watching 5 hours long youtube video that are basically made up and different youtubers can have a completely different interpretation of lore as it's all cryptic and vague
>>736949546Okay haven't played for a year here's my attempt to summarise from memory (I don't watch yt except for ASMR)>there is something called an olden ring which isn't a ring at all but just a label for an esoteric rune that holds SOCIETY together>there is a queen called Marika and she splits it into 8 pieces and fucks society up because she's a schizo>all her kids start fighting to be the new ruler because they're little shites and further fuck society up>you play as a literal who pursuing all the pieces of the olden ring to become the new ruler>along the way you meet a guy who sells prawns but he's an asshole for no reason so you beat the shit out of him>along the way you find out space aliens actually made the olden ring and basically puppeteered marika to be the ruler by proxy but really they were in charge, this is why marika went schizo>your character doesn't care and becomes the new ruler anyway
>>736948613Because for the most part it is. From is always recycling the same shit but a few new things came on top this time.This time they added more lore bits to the environment everywhere so I guess that is a reason to explore the world a bit but the world didn't need to be 10 skyrims for that, too much walking. That's why I watched videos by people who walked through the world for 500 hours collecting lore hints instead of doing it myself.
I thought the story is bad. I get the impression GRRM made something *actually good* and then Miyazaki did that insecure japanese game director thing where they sabotage anyone that makes them look bad.If bringing in a full-time world acclaimed novelist to write half a paragraph isn't a recession indicator, then it's a sign From Software is in deep decline.
>>736966241A lot of lore videos make a ton of sense,even the ones that contradict each other. There is even a lore series of why you are Godwyn's reincarnation and it makes just as much sense as other theoriesBut it sure seems like the main source of world building creativity are the fans and not From
>>736967918>A lot of lore videos make a ton of sense,even the ones that contradict each other.Because there is SO LITTLE in the actual game that cost $60 (minor respect to FromSoft for not yet trying to charge $70 for a game) that you can fill in that gaping blanks with very many different things that might contradict each other, but not any of the very few actually established facts of the "lore." This should not be considered a good thing, but either amazing ineptitude or, much more likely, severe laziness.
>>736947545Posted it again award.
>>736967918Some go as far as to free-cam analyze engravings on ruins and other things that you can barely see normally. Those are probably just some stockslop they copypasted on there.
>>736947545>fantasy JRPG slop?it's not JRPG. JRPG is when you watch a pointless cutscene every 15 minutes and you have to interact with NPCs and solve dumb puzzles/quests.Fromsoft games are anit-JRPG
