Is it good yet?
No. Stick with Windows 11.
yes, if you're on amd there's basically no excuse anymore
I tried gaming on linux and every single game took an extra 15 minutes to launch and every single game has to do some linux specific shader compilinglinux fags won't tell you this though, they'll pretend it's a feature and that you can somehow "ignore it"
>>736949026For me, I get up to 30fps more on Linux compared to Windows on some games. Most games run identially to Windows if not better.>>736949264The shader caching happens once when you first run the game and then it's cached. That's why it's a cache. This is a big reason why games run better, because it doesn't have to stream them as you play.
>>736949264shader compilation is indeed optional
it's good if you're not retardedfor now, you have to actually hate windows to justify the performance drop on nvidiawhat a worthless fucking nigger company that is
>>736949026works on my machine :)
>>736950546>performance drop on nvidia???I have a 5080 and get better performance on Linux. How old is the assumption you're working from? Or do you just not update your drivers?
Werks on my machine. I buy the game on steam, I press the play button, and the game launches.
>>736949026if you don't have friends or shit taste, yes. so 99% of the population excluded
>>736951273I have friends and all they play is Deadlock or FOTM friendslop so it's not a big deal.
>>736951182It's specific to DX12 games I hear, but the latest drivers also supposedly greatly reduce that performance hit. I don't know for sure though I cap my FPS to 72 just because I personally see the diminishing returns at 60 fps and I'd rather just cap my fps then let my GPU heat up the room.
>>736949168>amdthis really. I have all nvidia gpus and the the driver support is the most funniest thing ever
>>736951427I have hogwarts legacy installed which is DX12 only with no vulkan and it runs better than on windows, so I dunno. I run it at 4k ultra 120fps and my 1%s are 100fps. What are some specific games you have issue with? If I have them I will try
I have a 1070, should I switch to Linux? I think support for pascal was dropped recently, is that going to be an issue?
>>736951541Just make a lookix mint partition and try it. It will cost you about 30 minutes of your time.
>>736949026Have they fixed DirectX 12 yet?I'm tired of Windows but I wanna play dx12 and Apex Legends with my NvidiaAnd Nvidia sucks on Linux
>>736951534I just recently made the switch so I haven't tried too many games. Every game I've tried so far is hitting my 72 fps target so if I'm getting a performance hit I'm not personally seeing it. I'm sure there is a difference if I uncap my fps but for me going from like 120 fps to 100 fps is a big drop but also a drop I won't really notice.For what it's worth though, the overall experience is better than I thought it would be, but it definitely helps to be comfortable with linux and to be ready for some initial learning. I'm giving myself until the end of the month before I decide to stick with linux or to reinstall windows.
What's the qrd on kernel 7
>>736949085make sure it's iot, preferably 10.
>>736949026>Is it good yet?Not only it's good, it's the best.The only """"issue"""" is that you have to do some reading. It isn't even hard, it's just different, and ultimately a far more pleasant experience the windows and when you get over the innitial CLI wall, far more straighfoward than anything in the market, not just for gaming but everything.You'll get better framerates on modern games and better compatibility for older game. The compatibily thing is particularly funny because Windows main selling point is supposed to be compatibility, but running old games is usually a pain in the ass on it. On linux, they just work.
>>736951695>I'm giving myself until the end of the month before I decide to stick with linux or to reinstallI did the same thing but gave myself a week. Every time I had to boot to windows for something it annoyed me, so I just made a VM for those specific things, then wiped my drives and went full linux yesterday. >>736951784>The only """"issue"""" is that you have to do some readingNot even that nowdays. Because of the autism of the old linux community the documentation is usually excellent, you can put any question into an LLM and it will give you a command that will do whatever it is you want to do. It's really good at parsing that shit. Actually learning stuff helps, but it's not a requirement.
>>736951736Kernel version numbers don't really mean anything it's just whatever Linus feels like, more important is stuff like Fedora 44 adding ntsync or Gnome 50 adding VRR and HDR (both of which KDE already has).
>>736949264Have you tried pressing the skip button, illiterate retard? Nobody forces you to wait for it if you prefer not to. In many games you wouldn't be able to tell a difference. Only games that stutter like shit on Windows will benefit.
>>736949026I for one am having a blast!
>>736951601Yes. 595+ drivers (literally 2 weeks ago) fixed how nvidia handles memory and now uses a texture buffer and indexing. Wine11 has NTSYNC which is in the proton experimental, massive gaming gains with that. Explicit sync fixed the flickering issues. DLSS and frame gen work too.But you need to be on rolling distros like bazzite or arch since it only works on the 6.14+ kernels.
>>736953120Mint is on 6.17 doe
yeah its been good for a while.pic rel, sc taken on my arch linux amd gaming rig.
>>736952937I don't know why you would skip it anyway. It makes the games better. You only have to do it when it first runs or when your drivers update.
>>736953220
linux is a meme
>>736953213Then is should work on Mint. But if you're on ubuntu you're probably SoL.
>>736953273show frames and fetch
>>736949026if i knew how to configure things and make games not run like shit for me, on linux everything runs like 50% worse for me, example, megabonk runs at crispy 180 fps without dropping on my computer, on linux it keeps dropping to 120 and has poor frametime , and plus downloads are way slower on linux for some reason, i tried everything, and on windows i download at 600 mbps speed on steam by example, while on linux it downloads at 100 mbps for no fucking reason at all, if only performance and network speed worked fine, then i would continue using it
>>736953410>and plus downloads are way slower on linux for some reasonthat sounds really wrong, are you running two simultaneous instances of windows and linux or something?
>>736953270It shows up constantly for games that get updated often like deadlock. Waiting is sometimes pointless.
>>736953565not really, i installed linux on my 2nd drive
>>736953604To be fair Deadklock is an alpha and shit can change drastically between updates. For me, I rarely have to do it beyond the first install.
>>736953638Was the second drive a HDD? That or the drive just being old/ shit would most likely explain such a big performance drop.
>>736953638Is it a slower drive?When I was fucking around I installed linux on my sata SSD and just changed the fstab to trick linux into reading and writing to my ntfs drive and just used my direct game installs from windows off the nvme.Lots of fuckery yes, but worked well for a good test.
>>736951601Apex legends literally detects and blocks Linux.
>>736953823>>736953831I use SATA for both of my drives, they’re the same model too, it’s a Kingston A400. runs fine on windows...
>>736953890Which distro?
>>736954027I tried Nobara, Bazzite, and CachyOS, but I haven’t tried Mint yet.
Nopehttps://areweanticheatyet.com/
>>736949026I play Xonotic and UT2003 dailyit just werks>>736949264it's GNU/Linux + skill issue + works on my machine
>>736954160luckily I'm not an insufferable fifteen year old playing online battle royales
>>736954358
>>736951541Install Cachy (which I believe is the most performant "gaming" distro) on a spare SSD and try it out.
Which distros have decided to not cuck to Commifornian age check laws? CachyOS already said that they're cucking.
>>736954160tl;dr
>>736954134idk man I can't explain it. Sorry your experience has been so shit. I would think Nobara or Bazzite should be better.
>>736949026steamos on my steamdeck = amazingsteamos on my legiongo = dogshit
>>736954557Any which you actually control. Also I am not a burger, is California doing OS level age verification?
>>736954794>is California doing OS level age verification?Yeah, some other states are too. The laws keep passing unanimously by both parties, so you know this is designed to fuck you in the ass.
>>736954845LMAO.Seems like even if gaming was significantly worse (it isn't), I would put up with it to not have to deal with that shit. I don't even do anything illegal.
>>736953115What game is this?
>>736955440Battle for Wesnoth
>>736949026Linux gaming is just gaming for the most part these days. There's nothing special or bad about it unless you play multiplayer games.
>>736949026>good?Yes.>perfect?No.You very much need to have compatible hardware. I mean, Nvidia is SLOWLY starting to work fine on Linux, but you're still miles ahead using AMD. The tricky part is getting the most compatible AMD hardware since not every cpu/gpu performs the best. That said, if you don't have autism, need to play the latest slop and are technically savvy/willing enough, then yes, Linux is good for gaming.
>>736953323Ubuntu is also on 6.17.
>>736949168>try troonix>2nd screen is 3fps>there is no fix to the bugackshually, linux is for poor trannies with 1 screen.
>>736955712Nvidia is fine. AMD has fully open sourced drivers but as of 2 weeks ago they fixed all their wayland issues. >>736955791Then the only excuse anyone could possibly have for not switching to Linux is that they are Indian.
>>736949026>is it goodyes absolutely especially any distro with kde/plasma>is it worth to switch from w10 to linux?nah it's not. just wait until steam cancels w10 support in a few years
>>736949026yes. i use nvidia and ntfs drives for my games with little to no issues. i even dualboot w11 incase i want to play a game or do something i cant do on linux
>>736955835idk what youre talking about. you can even dualscreen a steam deck with no issues. maybe dont use hannahmontana linux?
>>736955835>there is no fix to the bugThere is if you aren't retarded. Works just fine on my machine. I have a 4k, 1440p and 1080p monitors all at different refresh rates and they all just werk.
>>736956036>ntfswhy?
>>736949026my entire library of 15 or so years of steam games is compatible right away thanks to Proton on CachyOS.I haven't touched windows in months.
>>736956234Mines not :(
>>736956158to make dualbooting more convenient. i use 2 drives with all my games and dont want to deal with one being windows and the other linux
>>736956415Every time I boot into windows with ntfs it has a melty and fucks the mount. I turned off fast boot and all, but every time it insists on doing it.
>>736955835>doesnt give any info about which distro or hardware>gives no evidence of said bug even existingwindows jeets are NOT sending their best. Its kind of adorable that they think they can keep people on windows through random lying on the internet. It just doesnt work anymore, not when there are plenty of people using linux to game who tell all of their friends about it.
Any software to add anti-deadzone in linux? I find most games unplayable without it.
>>736949026>hp laptop
>>736956751Yes. Steam
>>736956751literally native in the steam controller settings anon. you dont even need to own the game on steam either, you can just add a non steam game to steam and launch it through there in order to use steam controller settings for it which you enable and configure by right clicking on the shortcut for the game in steam.
>>736956532What distro do you use? I used to have the same issue but after nuking my shit and reinstalling w11 and endeavoros its been smooth sailing. Well, if i force shutdown i have issues but fixing the drive via disk man in windows or linux, its all good.
>>736956957>>736956971Anti-deadzone is different, anon. You can have 0 deadzone, but some games make the beginning of the input so low that it feels like a deadzone. I've played shit that required 50% anti-deadzone to feel right (okami)You can add anti-deadzone in steam with a custom deadzone, but I had to install ds4windows to play division 2 with ubisoft connect because steam didn't work with the external game method. It required a 20% anti-deadzone. Shit is ridiculous.
The only problem game I’m having is with Crimson Desert. My w11 drive runs the game way better than my cachyOS drive. W11 is getting 100+ stable. CachyOS only gets 80s and lower on same settings. It’s weird. The w11 drive hasn’t had its drivers updated since 2023.
>RE6 have memory leak issues on protonFor fucks sake, but then this game run like ass even on windows somehow.
>>736957401Arch. Probably some package I never installed that will take care of it but I don't care about it enough anymore since I rarely go into the windows boot now, I just use a VM.>endeavoros its been smooth sailingkek, because it's a boat.
>>736951541Pascal was dropped by nvidia for both Windows and Linux. Just install the final driver for your card.
>>736955835Nice fake made up issue. Not only do I have more than 1 screen, but I have 2 graphics cards each with a screen on them and I can run games on either card regardless of which screen I use.
Every time I try linux for desktop everything runs worse, especially 1% lows, regardless of what meme distro is tried. Some tranny will refute this with benchmarks comparing W11, cachy, and bazzite but conveniently ignore that W11 is running through directx instead of vulkan like the others, even though you can enable vulkan on windows too. That's not counting the troubleshooting and random incompatibility issues that proton doesn't solve.It's staying as a server and docker container OS, wake me up when I can double click exe -> run game with equal or greater success than windows. I swear /v/ has the worst opinions on literally everything.
>>736959313It sounds like you've already made up your mind and no amount of contradictory information or any words at all will change your mind. Thats ok anon, but you could just admit to be an immature manchild who doesn't want to change operating systems and has to justify it somehow.
>>736959313When was the last time you tried? 2026 has been wild for gaming on Linux.
>>736956075>>736956112>>736956676>>736958003pretty sure it was ubuntu, 9060 xt card.might have been arch though, either way rtfing the m said "sorry it's a known issue we can't do anything about it because we're dumb trannies" so that was that and I sunset win10.so you guys cut your dicks off for nothing.
>>736951541Yes. The driver for pascal and older isn't very good. It works, but compared to latest Nvidia drivers it's bad and the latest aren't exactly top tier either.
>>736960501Literally have 9060 xt on arch and 2 displays. Also I don't have a circumcising fetish or whatever your problem is, so kindly stop talking about your kinks.
>>736949026plays every thing i want todunno about the live service slops i dont play them
>>736960501If this was a real issue I am guessing one monitor was a different resolution and/or refresh rate than the other, and this was not recent but you were burned by it and haven't tried since, even though it would have probably worked if you just updated your drivers.Next time just ask AI. Guarantee it will find a solution.
>>736960798D4 is the only live service slop I play and it runs fine.
>>736949026It's as good as it gets unless you play anticheat slop
>>736949026You can game on Linux now
>>736960501>takes this long to reply>schizobabble about trannies>"pretty sure" as in he cant even be specific about the distro so we cant actually test for sure>trust me brobro we dont care about your tranny fetish
>>736949026Why is every linux distro KDE now? Where's all the autistic Gnomers?
>>736960501we need to come together as a community to stop letting people experience the misfortune of ubuntu
>>736962771>why does no one want to use the DE where it's missing 2836712836718 basic features you have to download extensions forgee i wonder why
>>736962425I was busy coding shit on linux for a console actually lol. fuck you tranny.>>736960876it was last year and shit was updated. already settled in a custom win11 distro now. you're right though it was diff res and refresh rates. everyone else that replied to me is fucking stupid.except this guy >>736963192
>>7369595722026>>736959470>if you don't believe me instead of your own lived experience you are a manchildProjecting obese teletubby clown.
>>736955835>>736960501>>736963306I actually had the same or a very similar thing when I used ubuntu about 3 years ago. For me the fix was to disable fractional scaling. For some reason it only liked it if it was either 100% or 200%.But this should be fixed on Wayland, pretty sure it's an X11 issue. Though I haven't used ubuntu in 3 years so idk maybe it's still a problem.Aside from that, yes, >>736963192 is right. Don't use ubuntu. If anything is going to sour a linux experience it's ubuntu.>>736963421Problems don't exist on linux everything that has ever gone wrong is made up because it didn't happen to me.
yeah
>>736949026There is literally no reason not to just use Windows 10 LTSC.
I've been on Linux since Win10 support stopped last october. It's been a really enjoyable experience. I mostly pirate porn games from f95 and play CRPGs and Deadlock on steam so I haven't had to make any concessions.I did try Diablo 2 remake with some mods and that took some fiddling, but I got it working with some common sense and googling.
>>736963192There needs to be a much stronger consensus when it comes to distros for idiot gamers. I feel like the people who suggest ubuntu dont actually use it because snaps are TRASH. I've convinced people to use fedora, nobara, mint or bazzite depending on how stupid they are because a lot of pc gamers cant use a computer for shit and were just deluded because they could mod a couple games. Getting them on these distros first got them to stick with linux overall a lot better since they didnt have to worry about gnomeshit with ubuntu or some arch derivative shitting bricks when they copy paste a command from AI like a retard. I don't bother discussing it with people stuck on slopware games like seige and fortnite though. They'll just have to suck it up or get better taste.
Been running mint and beyond the initial learning curve of figuring out how drives work on linux and how I needed to change the drives that I want to run steam games from to a new format, its been pretty good.First game I tried was spyro trilogy and I had a weird bug where I was sliding on the ground. Come to figure out its from my framerate now being too high.Honestly the only things I miss aee dragon ball fighterz. Because I cant play online with that because of its aggressive anti cheat system booting me after a minute.And streaming on discord. For some reason trying to stream to friends on discord slows even easy to run games down to a choppy mess.
>>736964140I found using Vesktop or modding Vencord into the vanilla client will let you stream fine. Its mostly the devs being too shitass to do wayland calls and vencord can get that working.
>>736964059I copy/paste AI commands all the time and I only uninstalled my bootloader once.
>>736949085Win11 is linux nowMy explorer keeps crashing randomly
>>736963847redpill me on catchy over arch
>>736964261Weird, dolphin has never crashed once for me.
>>736949026one reason people will never take Linux seriously is because of all the retarded names for distros and programs and stuff>yeah I'm using SwimpyOS, all the games are running great with the latest version of Gombo, I also recommend the Twilky packages for some QoL features like Twilky-serious and Twilky-googy, and if all else fails just try good old Bink, it's the standard for a reason
>>736964404So stuck-up retards, got it
>>736964404Yes because Windows is a cool name.
>>736964404Heh weaklings
I will always stay on windows because on linux I constantly run into this kind of shit. No matter how many workarounds are invented for running games on linux, everything works natively on windows.
Anyone got Deathloop and Guardians of the Galaxy working on Linux? When I try to launch them I get an error saying no dx12 graphics card detected. I have a 1070 and have played other dx12 games.Guardians of the Galaxy did work but after a kernel update or possibly nvidia drivers I've not been able to play it.
gaming works just fine on my linux machine
>>736949026maybe if you have and AMD gpu. i tried out bazzite recently and had too many problems with my Nvidia gpu. while stuff was "playable" my mainstay FFXIV had a lot of weird graphical bugs that were kind of minor albeit, but still annoyed tf out of me and was a deal breaker
>>736963825Ubuntu seems intent on speed-running the question "Hey, what if we took all the worst aspects of Windows and stuffed them inside Linux?", and I can't figure out why.
>>736964512If everything just worked on Windows I wouldn't have a job. My entire career is based on Windows being a pile of barely working shit.
>>736953410>>736953638Hmm, this is really strange! Are you per-chance sharing a NTFS drive? I remember running a shared drive in NTFS between Windows and Linux and the NTFS drive from Linux performed really poorly because it's a black box file system. >>736960501Ubuntu is great for enterprise and servers, not so much for desktop users. Sorry for your misfortune.For me, the greatest misfortune with Linux gaming is trying to run DirectDraw7 games. After doing some sorcery, I can get 7 Kingdoms 2 HD to run properly... but it crashes after about 30 minutes of gameplay. I can't replicate my Warlords Battlecry 3 setup again to run smoothly again... I'm not sure what I did.
>>736949026Japanese games in general almost always have some game-breaking bugs but western dev games for the last 30 years always work OOTB for me.
>>736960501>doesn't know the distro winjeet larper
Literally the only reason to use Linux over Windows IoT LTSC is if you're a privacyfag
>>736949026do linux users do anything else other than running neofetch
>>736965535I run fastfetch though
>>736965535I spend the vast majority of my time playing games and shitposting. I barely need to touch anything because once it's how you want it that's it, there's nothing left to do but fastfetch for more shitposting.
>>736964512I don't mind having to change a couple of environment variables to run games.Even that is rare. Shit got so much better over the last 5 years, it's still not normalfag proof but we are getting there.
>>736951273But friend games work, they're what specifically lets Linux through
>>736964059Idiot gamers need to buy a Steam Deck.
>>736949168i'm full amd and have been thinking of switching. i've never used linux before at all. is mint a good beginner distro?
>>736965535i like labbing in fighting games a lot
>>736967115yes mint is fine, steam will do most of the work for you for your games, all you have to do it enable proton compatibility in the settings
>Linux gaming
>>736968009>bait bumpingyou don't have to resort to that
>>736968009
It dependsYou're not gonna find 100% compatibility (not just with online games, by the way) but it's really really high, it's unlikely your shit won't work to an extentIf you have an affinity for games without raytracing and you use an AMD GPU (specially RDNA3 and older) you're going to see an actual benefit to it performance wiseIt just now got Linux 7 and there's a specific thing you can download to lower VRAM usageSome of your peripherals may not work or may need tweaks (the dualsense needs some fuckery done to work on certain games, with the gimmicks, but it -does- work)
>>736949264I don't have to wait more than 15 seconds. Shaders exist regardless of os. I would rather wait those 15 seconds than have the game stutter on windows.
>>736968706
Linux works perfectly for any games that aren't GAAScrap with kernel level spyware. What's holding linux back is that some software in some industries have no support and these don't work with their full functionality in VMs or with wine. Nobody likes windows, they're just forced to use it for this reason.
>>736955640This looks great. Thank you. Very surprised I've never heard of it.
>>736949026I'm not able to make it work. I tried EU3 and it would open and crash. I tried some action games, and it didn't recognize my dualsense.
>>736971423This is 100% true. People like mac, people like linux, people begrudgingly use windows because all of the programs they need to use are exclusively on it.
>>736964282Cachy is T approved
>>736964282arch but better and more convenientarch really only makes sense now if you have a windowsian attitude towards software
>>736976441What's the Windowsian attitude? "I want to customize my OS to my preferences"?
>>736949085good morning
All operating systems fucking suck
>>736976515"all software i install has an ulterior motive and it's best to have as little installed as possible"
>>736964282its literally just arch with some gaming related packages pre installed, thats it.
>>736976656Then Arch is a bad choice, because the packages in Arch are pretty bloated with all the bells and whistles and dependencies.
>>736949026works well for me since i mostly play jrpgs and old games. on windows a 5070ti should be able to run crimson desert on cinematic preset with DLAA without any issues but on my end i need to play it on the ultra preset with textures and models at cinematic. and to have DLSS 4 at quality and FG at 2x to have my fps always above 70 with any drops below it. but i dont really play many games that use dx12 as its renderer.
>>736963192Anyone who recommends Ubuntu in 2012+14 is a retard, shitposting or as shill (Canonical or Microsoft).I've had nothing but problems with Ubuntu and most distros based on it since forever and so have everyone I've ever talked to about the distro, sure it's "easy to use" but that's no excuse for it being so shit and there are much better "easy" distros on the market now like CatchyOS, Fedora or even Mint if you still REALLY want Canonical to fuck you in the ass as a third-party without having to deal with how shit Ubuntu is. As soon as SteamOS officially releases to the general public these discussions will probably be gone anyway since that will turn into the defacto retard Linux experience.
>>736953371
>>736977539they just need to give a bit more focus to the desktop experience and it'd basically be the ubuntu of archapparently they've recently added printer drivers to itidk how to feel about flatpak being the de facto way to get software though, they need to make a non gnome nigger non pozzed version of bazaar
>>736953120>fixed how nvidia handles memory the actual issue with memory allocation is not fixed. https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland/issues/164And vkd3d still lacks the full vulkan descriptor heap implementation and optimizations for dx12 performance.
nvidia needs to be raped into joining mesa
>>736968009Why do so many trannies use Linux
>>736962771I use Bazzite Gnome on my laptop. Gnome is generally a better experience on touchpad imho but for regular desktop use then KDE is superior in every way.
>>736962771wdym linux distro being KDE? the only distros that are set in stone with the DEs they use are point release distros like mint and ubuntupretty much every rolling distro can install whatever DE you want in 2 minutespeople just want to use KDE
>>736949026Been gaming on my linux box without any issues for the past 4 years. I chose Linux Mint, I don't believe in meme or hype distros but I also didn't want to start from scratch.Anything on Steam boiled down to clicking a single checkbox to let it manage compatibility stuff itself, then you just double click on whatever you want to play, wait for the download and just play it.For anything outside Steam I use Lutris. It's a couple more clicks but it just works.The only downside I've experienced is that ONE game didn't work because of the anti-cheat software it relies on.
>>736949026It's very comfy.
>>736949085Not using windows saar. Take your bloody blanchard OS and do the needful
>>736951601>I'm tired of Windows butLinux is not for you.
>>736967115It's not if you want to gaym. Mint has ancient kernel which doesn't most likely even support ntsync yet.Do not ask tech help on 4chan, most users are underage retards who think distro is a separate operating system.Do some research on your own.I'd go with Fedora or something what is more recent if you really want to switch over.I think you should stay on Windows if gaming is your only use case. You will still be disappointed when you finally switch to linux.
>>736978002you are the first guy on /v/ besides me that uses the full steam fps overlaygj my man
>>736978002it's impressive that you managed to rape plasma this badly
>>736949026nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxMMfQFGfE> I tested 100+ Steam and GoG games in Linux. Was it worth it? -- Dr. Jay Reviews -- Sep 27, 2025DOCTOR JAY, reviews
>>736981856what an incompetent retard lmao
>>736981967176 games
>>736949026I've been using Linux forever on servers, my clous infrastructure etc. Saw these memes of people claiming how its finally great to game on. I thought how cool I can finally have all Linux on every device including my PC as wellOne new game doesn't boot up, it just crashing at startup due to driver issues. Another game has keyboard issues, need to troubleshoot by fucking around with wayland or x, yeah no fuck that. Other just gives horrible performance, and constantly needs to compile shaders at every boot. The list goes on. There are some games that work without issues, but you're playing Russian Roulette, and every fucking game needs some sort of configuration and troubleshooting at least once. When you're done with work and come home and just want to relax and game, not troubleshoot some dumb linux only issues, that are not even consistent across distros and versions of each and every distro. Went back to Windows and had no issues with any of my games.Don't fall for the meme, let the lincucks people feel superior with their screenshots of that one random 90s game that works, and how they're l33t epbbin hackers for troubleshooting the linux distro spaghetti code just to eventually be able to game
>>736954557Any distro that uses systemd will have it (the majority of them)Your best option is probably Artix
>>736982263linux is better if you're not a retardand that guy clearly issad if you think he's an authority for your opinion
>>736949026most games worksome have weird issues that havent been fixed because no one has reported themothers dont work because devs dont want to whitelist linux in their anticheat spyware
>>736978290>I'm using kernel 6.13.4 with nvidia-open 570.86.16 and KDE 6.3.1.
>>736949085Fuck windows, the other day i connected my phone and onedrive randomly turned itself on and yoinked my photos in the background without asking and 20 minutes later my microsoft account was deleted because i apparently uploaded harmful content (it was just a photo of my legs in striped socks and tail for my fursuit in bad lighting
the amount of classic>I don't have this problem personally so it couldn't possibly exist for anyone else and you're lyingtroonix posting never ceases to amuse
>>736982834>windows accidentally backed up my cp collection and so they banned melel
>>736978648My theory is that since Linux requires a lot of emulation and extra steps, often to trick software into playing on it, trannies find a sense of affinity for Linux. Plus trannies have gone out of their way to poz as many distros as possible.
>>736967115Whatever one you like is fine. They're all the same thing. There may seem like there are 100s but they are all variants of the same 3 basic cores. Arch, Debian and Fedora. Arch is good if you want full control. Debian is good for stability, and Fedora is where most of the new tech goes. There's also openSUSE but do not concern yourself with that.You'll find that any distro is based on one of these.Start by deciding what you want to do with your machine, then pick a distro from there.For an Arch based one I recommend CachyFor Debian, Mint.For Fedora, Bazzite.As an absolute beginner, Bazzite is the best imho, because it mimics SteamOS, and it's immutable so you can't fuck it up as easily.But genuinely don't let choice paralysis stop you from trying anything, and don't let others recommendations sway you. Just pick whatever you think looks good, it really doesn't matter which as long as it's not ubuntu.You can always use KDE-Plasma on any which is the most Windows-like experience.
>>736982864Anon, you must be a retard. To make the game work all you need to do is like me, have the game be at version 1.4.2-4. Next you need to have arch as everyone other of gorillion distros for some reason don't work with this game. Then make sure you run Proton version 10.2.5.25 or older, the newer version fucked up the shaders for this game, unless you have amd, since they have open source drivers then it would work, but Nvidia still has issues with this, but don't worry a fix is expected in the next 6 months, or maybe 10 years if Nvidia makes their drivers open source. Then you need to make sure to compile a custom linux kernel only version 6.13.2, anything older or newer and it doesn't work due to resource sharing or some shit. Also you need to only use KDE, since every other DE has issues with this game. Make sure it's version 6.6.4 since all other versions introduce screen tear due to tiling or some shit, but make sure you disable Wayland, since it has some issues, you need to have a version of xorg which is older than 2 years, nothing newer work. Next you need to enter a couple of commands in your steam when it boots up the game. And make sure you disable a couple of settings since once you're inside the game since they also introduce some issues. But other than that it works great on my machine, and I've done some benchmarks and I get 0.00032% more FPS across the board that my Winbloat machine. Now this only works for this specific game, and only during the solar eclipse. If you need I've got instructions for other games and all the versioned packages required.
>>736982864>i have this very specific and weird bug that literally no one else has ever heard of before therefore every single distro and iteration of linux is dog shit
>>736981856Skipped to the conclusion. He said>For now though, it's everything except gaming that has me second guessing my decisionThen he goes on to say he is staying on Linux and making a Windows partition for a few apps.Did you even watch the video you posted? For gaming Linux is excellent. Not saying you won't run into any issues, but it's not as if you don't run into issues on Windows gaming either.
>>736983221>i have no rebuttal so i will make up a strawman that says something unreasonably extreme and then pretend you said it instead of what you actually said
>>736982864>>736983212>google "x game has y issue" on Windows>100s of results>troubleshooting steps are all just as fucky
I use Ubuntu and it's fine, what's the problem.
>>736964261MS did something to it bc mine is taking forever to open now
>>736983691Kernel updates are slow and you're just trading one shitty company for another. The biggest issue is snap. Even if you tell it not to use snap, it will often still just use snap. Ubuntu is great if you're a company, but as a standard user, I don't recommend it.
>>736949026It's getting there. Playing games with intrusive anticheat is still not possible.
>>736982421I mean at that point I don't really even give a fuck about using Linux because this is designed to spy on you and tie all of your online activities to your government ID.
Please fix design and editing software on Linux next. Gaming is fine now and it somehow hurts much more still being tied to windows by Affinity Designer and Photo than it did when it was because of games too.
My main issue with switching to Linux is the lack of support from the ProtonVPN suite. I use them for everything and the Linux version of the VPN sucks ass. I also live in my semi-truck and abuse the fuck out of my service provider by abusing TTL changes on Windows for unlimited high-speed Hotspot data, which didn't really work too well on Linux mint.
its been pretty good for me
>>736983985>because this is designed to spy on you and tie all of your online activities to your government ID.systemd user profiles already had PII fields for years. You can just not fill them in you know.
>>736984451>b*****e
>>736984029>using an app for vpnjust use wireguard nigga wtf
>>736976971I have a 5080 and all my games run better than windows, except Diablo 4 which runs the same. Maybe the extra overhead the 5080 allows is the key, idk.NVidia is actually paying attention to Linux now though, since all the AI shit runs off linux. We are accidently benefiting from the improvements. If you don't have the 595 drivers yet, try them, though I am guessing you do based on your kernel.
>>736982864you genuinely have to tinker with windows so much fucking more and it's actually insane, people are just used to windows fucking them in the ass 24/7, they are used to googling random fucking problems and putting windows (insert version number here) at the end, people just accept that windows is dogshit it's nothing but complacency it's literally the norm that people are used to.
>>736983162Wine is not an emulator retard
>>736984027the affinity devs said they do want to have official linux support
>>736984674This kind of tribalism needs to be suppressed if we actually want Linux to get better. The more people who use it the more developers will pay attention to it. Whatever version of GNU/Linux someone uses is good, because they're using Linux. >>736985064At least on Linux there is usually a solution. On Windows it's often "wait until the devs fix it, maybe".>>736984027You can run almost any windows app in linux with WinApps or WinBoat
>>736949026>Is it good yet?Yeah, it's been for years already, the only issue is devs lately purposefully blocking it from running their multiplayer cashgrabs.
>>736982864you can say the exact same for windows, which i have to tinker with more than linux desu
Getting a 9070 XT and a 9800X3D coming in next week for a new build specifically to switch to Linux full time, I'm only debating on trying out Bazzite or Cachy first.
>>736985409Bazzite is immutable and isn't arch based so no AUR.That's reason enough to not use it.
>>736985409I'd recommend trying Bazzite first since it's immutable.
>>736985409i'll be a third voice and i say decide it with a coin toss
>>736984554We're talking about a law that requires you to upload a copy of your ID to a service (ran by Thule) in exchange for a token, which your OS will then pass to applications and websites to say "Yeah, he's an adult" (also this is the token for his ID, so go ask Thule who he is).
>>736985807I get that but complaining about an age field in systemd is putting the cart before the horse imo. The law itself needs to be attacked. No one is going to give a fuck if the 0.001% of gentoo users are unable to verify after the law is enacted because their system doesn't have an age field. they're just gonna block you outright.
>>736985967Not having access to those sites is fine, it doesn't matter. Having an OS level requirement is the issue. Not only will it be your internet use, but literally everything you do with your PC will be harvested. This is the issue, and it doesn't matter if you're not Californian or American, it impacts every computer user.
>>736949026Yes but HoloOS sucks ass. Use CachyOS.
Why do you need anything other than bazzite?
>>736986729>I don't understand how computers work: the post
>>736986937bazzite is too locked down also it doesnt run as well on my shitty old laptop
>>736987072>is too locked downI, on the contrary, like this kind of foolproof protection, you can't kill the system under any circumstances, no matter how hard you try. Another linux can be killed with a simple thing without even noticing.
>>736986937Performance and availability of packages is shit in Fedora. CachyOS is best. AUR is king.
>>736987206you have to be genuinely retarded to fuck up linux beyond repair in 2026 and 99% of problems can be solved by chatgpt
>>736949264>every single game has to do some linux specific shader compilingits just a setting, you likely had it turned off on windows and just forgot about it.
>>736949168i put linux mint on my 1070 pc microsoft boot looped and shadow banned as in cant install windows thru any method and it took 3 weeks of installing and a error message but i got steam working with half life 2 and cod wawi wanna reinstall tho cuz its on an external ssd might try cachy or bazzite i want simplewin 10 is too evil lolim gonna try tiny 10 or old win 10 like 1776 or something
>>736985409Cachy is the better distro overall, but Bazzite will make it so that you're far less likely to fuck things up. But then again Cachy has snapshots.
>>736988529You can't be banned from installing windows. You might be retarded tho. You just broke your boot loader is all. Easy fix.
>>736954789leigion go is 1k lol thats just straight dogshitif u want a handheld wait for valve to restockbuy a used rog ally and put linux on it for sub 300or get a used steam deck for like 350also could use a laptop or macbook if you want dockedmy gmas macbook runs the 360 library around 50 60 fps 1080p my laptop with a 750m is currently running the games i play better than my 1660 super optiplex lolwinesap would be interesting to dual boot off a flash drive with on a old late 2000s early 2000s laptophardware peaked then anyways loli say get used and pirate all ur gamesbut desu id rather buy from valve than from ebayimportant note tho valve is doing some ai and has a neuroscience brain chip company.
linbros, ive always dabbled with mint and fedora and wanna go arch/cachy, i can just use yay or sudo pacman -Syu every few days or so and not break anything?
>>736989306yes. cachy has an updater script you can run too.
>>736989306cachy is almost as retardproof as bazziteyou shouldnt use yay too much tho, always check out the repos before downloading them
>>736989306I've been on Cachy for half a year and had few issues and if I did it was because of KDE
>>736949026>If you play games that don't use Kernel Level AnticheatYes. I have GOG, Amazon, Epic, Battle launcher, Ubisoft Launcher, GW2 launcher, and steam working perfectly.I have to use Lutis and Heroic launcher but it works and covers 98% of my library>Will if work for kernel Level Anticheat games live service slopNo. Used to be a work around running a VM, but that's done.>Will it work for specific classics I own on a physical disc or have an ISO for....Nigga this is the 2% I'm trying to figure out.Windows 11 is just ass. I keep only 1 device (a legion go) to keep access to windows if I need it.Co pilot is ass. It spies too much. It breaks non stop.Linux has it's issues but they are less than windows 11 on the whole and the sacrifices made are negligible
>>736949380Lmao... I disagree.This is the one thing about Linux gaming that bugs me. It REEEEAAAALLLY needs to have your shaders fully compiled and usually does this most effectively as a background process
>>736986939>I don't understand how governments work: the post
>>736989593>mfw see that windows 11 is horrible>mfw want to stay on windows 10>windows 10 will become a security hazard the longer it goes on>stuck in a burning building with eventual collapseI always thought about linux over the years but I'm always on the fence about it due to issues it has with newer games and my slight computer illiteracy. Should I just bite the bullet and get windows 11 slop like the majority
>>736990394If you're too illiterate to use a babbymode distro like Bazzite then yeah I would recommend getting W11 especially since Linux security is actually predicated on the fact that it has a small userbase.That said make sure you get the LTSC version of W11 since that has less bloat.
>linuxI thought you simps want to actually have sex
>>736990394Most distros can be installed and run from a USB, you don't even need to commit to try it out, just plug in the USB and go. If you like it, then you can commit, if not, you can try another distro. Don't worry about being illiterate, Bazzite is nearly retard-proof.>>736990530>Linux security is actually predicated on the fact that it has a small userbase90% of the internet runs off Linux. Security has nothing to do with the install base. It just works fundamentally differently to Windows. Files aren't executable by default, and software is usually pulled from vetted centralized repositories rather than random web downloads. While malware can run with user level permissions, it is much harder for it to get there in the first place, and when it's there it's harder for it to gain root access or hide in the OS without the root password.If, some-how, malware does make it into a package or kernel, it's usually patched within hours due to the collective autism of the linux community.
>>736991110>Security has nothing to do with the install base.The bigger the user base the more attackers, the more attackers the less secure. Maybe safe is a better word than secure?I'm specifically talking about users and not servers, I know servers are safe but those are usually ran by competent admins and not stupid users who copy paste commands from the internet or download AppImages from GitHub and random AUR packages without reading a single line of code.Linux is becoming more secure now thanks to Wayland and Flatpak sandboxing but there's still plenty of attack vectors that bad actors aren't bothering with because it's not worthwhile.
funny thing, a coworker just texted me about her son with a new gaming pc with windows having fucking issues ALREADY and asking me about ways to fix it. their son is a fortnite anticheat zoomie or else id say to just install bazzite. meanwhile last time i installed arch it took like 5 minutes with no issue
>>736991621AUR packages are very safe. The entire source code is visible.I'm not suggesting that it's impossible to hack a user, but it's much much harder to do on Linux than it is on Windows, even though hackers don't give a shit about individual users, they want large companies. The biggest recent one was xz. Someone spent 2 years socially engineering a package maintainer that is a dependency of a lot of Linux.When he got access to the code-base he slipped in malware that would essentially give him root level access to any Linux system. Then a Windows dev was testing the code and noticed it was 500ms longer than normal, and traced it down to malicious code and it was instantly patched out. Yes, a small install-base does make it less likely to be targeted at the individual level, but attacks against linux happen all the time, it's just much much harder to do.
>>736991909>AUR packages are very safe. The entire source code is visible.The issue isn't that the entire source code is visible, the issue is that many users don't read source code, and as the userbase grows the more people that don't read source code inevitably become targets.>I'm not suggesting that it's impossible to hack a user, but it's much much harder to do on Linux than it is on Windows, even though hackers don't give a shit about individual users, they want large companies.Oh yeah for sure, data breaches are more profitable than a couple of people getting ransomwared. I just think that if Linux was the one with the 90+% consumer market and Windows was the one with 5% that there would be a LOT more Linux viruses and malware and whatnot.As an aside, my main concern is Rust infesting everything. Even if it doesn't have a backdoor in the compiler the fact that everything it touches turns into MIT license is worrisome.
>>736991632The "Arch btw" meme is dead thanks to archinstall
>>736992368Gentoobros... we won.
>>736992368as someone who has done it the "old fashioned way" before, its a nice and easy way to set up new devices
>>736992420Gentoo icon looks like luvdisc
>>736992457Even archinstall is full of bullshit that won't make sense to anyone unfamiliar. I did it the archinstall way at first but then when I installed a windows partition and it deleted my boot-loader I needed to learn how to do it the old way.Anyone doing Arch should do it manually at least once, just to understand what each bit is doing and why.
>>736992368nix is the new arch and i fucking hate it and all the tourists it brought to the final answer to the linux question
>>736992627more like nigsOS
I like linux but I don't know why someone would use it if they just play games. The main reasons would be things like "I want to run docker shit without a jank vm" or "I want to develop python slop without wanting to kill myself"If it's just games then I figured windows would still be the easiest path. I guess the spyware is not comfy but gaymers are used to that shit. Has windows 11 really gotten that bad?
>>736993641Not liking the direction of windows and cutting your losses is a pretty good reasonWe're 12 years past peak windows it'll only get worse and the jump to Linux is pretty painless if you're not lobotomisedYou'll have to do it eventually anyway, windows won't be around by 2050, so why delay?
>>736993641>I don't know why someone would use it if they just play gamesBecause I am sick of Microsoft. I am sick of the bloat. I am sick of the forced Copilot. I am sick of Edge and Bing. I am sick of system level ads. I am sick of closing something only for it to automatically re-open. I am sick of having to spend a day on a new install removing and disabling shit I don't want instead of installing things I do.The fact that gaming just werks in 99% of cases now was the final nail.Giving up a few apps for freedom is a small price to pay. I will own everything and I will like it.
>>736993641Windows legitimately feels like it's haunted. Cursed software.
>>736964282.
>>736993641>I like linux but I don't know why someone would use it if they just play games.Because one day I woke up, tried to turn on my PC and got a blue screen telling me Windows 11 was unable to boot. A random update bricked my SSD for no fucking reason.
>>736993641The reason I stopped using windows is because I wasn't having a good time using it. I don't want to always be miserable while I use my pc. It's hard to forget you're using windows even when playing a game full screen.
>>736949026Made the full switch a week ago. It's been excellent. No issues with any game I've personally, they either run the same or better than Windows. The hardest part is having to re-train your brain to linux because it's fundamentally different to Windows. Even if every app worked perfectly, this is the main thing that will stop most people from switching.
>>736994352Based as fuck CachyOS.
>>736994352Why are linux users like this?
Any power limiter and fan speed control apps like afterburner in Linux?
>>736996313Why would you want that?
>>736996313Yes. Many. But I just did it in Bios. On Windows it never respected my bios settings so I had to install a third party app.
>>736996313Corectrl is really good for both of those things. I use it to undervolt and tweak the fan curve for my 9070XT.
>>736996396poorfag concerns, nothing to worry about for you>>736996438ty anon, this was the final obstacle for switching
>>736996313>>736996438LACT if you're not AMD. But really just let your bios do it unless you specifically want to clock
>>736964282Arch with some optimizations, rice and minor convenience tools that doesn't care if it breaks something compared to a vanilla arch install, like not working on a VM out of the box.If you're on Arch, you can just download the CachyOS packages off the AUR, add the correct repos in your pacman config or even just use the script in CachyOS tutorial to add the repos automatically, so there's not really any advantage to CachyOS over Arch other than some minor configuration.
been trying to daily drive CachyOS with an Nvidia GPU and it’s been kinda rough compared to Windows, mostly display (VRR and HDR) and audio stuff. Performance is close but slightly worse. But the main issue here is the amount of tinkering you have to do in order for shit to function sometimes. People don't give enough credit to windows, shit just works.
>>736997142>mostly display (VRR and HDR) and audio stuff.>amount of tinkering you have to do in order for shit to functionsuch as?i didnt have to do any thinkering for mine to work fine
>>736997142Depends on the shit.People don't give enough credit to Linux, a lot of things will just werk, because someone somewhere wanted it to work and there was no reason not to support it.Using multiple conflicting keyboard layouts on Windows is a chore of switching the system's keyboard layout, but some Linux WMs just let you set the key layout for each USB device.
>>736997309Using a QD-OLED ultrawide (3440x1440 175hz) and VRR doesn’t behave right, enabling adaptive sync on desktop causes flickering and the refresh rate jumps all over the place. HDR is also weird, desktop looks off and text gets washed out like subpixel rendering is broken. I have to lower my refresh rate in order for it to work properly. Apparently windows is just better at it. Never had to do anything beyond turning off and on HDR. Also for some reason Linux didn't recognize my other monitor as being 4K so I had to do something in my TV in order for it to work.>>736997319I guess that's where Linux truly shines, in customizability.
>>736996876Thanks for the real answer. So it's Arch with some gayming bloat. I would rather choose my packages.>>736997142I think people forget the amount of tinkering they need to do on a fresh Windows install too, mostly to remove shit instead of adding it. Once you're set up, you don't need to touch it.
>>736997693>enabling adaptive sync on desktop causes flickering and the refresh rate jumps all over the placeuse "automatic", not "always".that's normal behavior when you put it on always, since the desktop only refreshes when it needs to.on idle you'll see the refresh rate will be at lowest possible (possibly 48), and if you move the cursor you will see it jump all over the place (since it's actively refreshing).im using 5440x1440 monitor with 240hz btw>HDR is also weird, desktop looks off and text gets washed out like subpixel rendering is brokenno idea because it works fine for me
>>736998081Oh yeah I eventually figured it out, you're supposed to select "automatic" with VRR The HDR issue is easily circumvented if you just turn it off and on when gaming since the funky text is way more noticable in Desktop use, but hey, that's a thing I didn't have to do in Windows. I just let those 2 things on, always. I get it's basically non-issue but I wanna use my monitor features. >>736997884I do appreciate Linux don't asking for a windows account or wifi when installing it.
no
windows just works
>>736996438Sadly it's in maintenance mode. No support for new GPUs anymore
>>736998546>I do appreciate Linux don't asking for a windows account or wifi when installing it.Among a ton of other shit. I don't need to edit the registry to make search look for files on my device. I don't get stopped from removing the default browser that I never use. I don't have copilot get reinstalled every update. Honestly the only thing I miss from Win11 is paint.
>>736999391Whats a good replacement thats still in active development?
>>737000491LACT
i have an rtx 3060They still don't play nice with nvidia right?
>>737002032Works for me but I have a 5080. Their latest drivers are now a lot more open, and have done a lot of work to shrink the gap, but AMD still wins since their drivers are fully open source. 20XX+ seem good, anything older and you're fucked.
>>737000417>Honestly the only thing I miss from Win11 is paint.Try KolourPaint
>>736949026no tried to make it work for years and finally after being unable to play videogames for 3 months and having to come home form work and troubleshoot all day I gave up on this piece of shit.If you don't play videogames it's great.If you play videogames it's piece of shit.
>>736949264careful linuxtrannies will blame you for every negative of the operating system.
>>737004057I have it, it's not the same. No layers.I basically just switched to GIMP for all my shitposting and memes now.I would rather something quick and simple with layers.
>>737004949try photopea
>almost exclusively play 1 game>has a linux launcher >it's a .appimage that only works on X11>GNOME just dropped support completely for X11 in new version>KDE Plasma will do the same shortly>launcher opens a plain white window in Wayland>if I run the .exe under proton it works, but then updates for the game/addons/mods must be done manually
>>737004949Paint has layers? Man I'm fucking retarded, I've been using it for like 20 years now and I didn't know that.
>>737005015Looks like it's just gimp with less. >>737005225Only the Win11 version does.
>>737005017Why can't you use the windows launcher?
>>737005314It seems to get very confused and act like I've never installed the game before each time I open it.
>>737005362Did you install the launcher in the same way in wine as you would on Windows?
>can't run Crimson desert for whatever fucking reason, keeps exiting>same commands as always, only proton cachyOS got an update I guess>try again and again, it instantly quits>close Steam, open it up again>open the game>denuvo anti-tamper error (something went wrong), gotta wait 24 hours I guess>click on play again for shits and giggles>it opensWhat the fuck is this
>>736991110>90% of the internet runs off Linux. And your point is...?Linux servers get hacked CONSTANTLY
>>737007598well, yeah, that's because all servers are linux.
>>737007436for me rebooting just tends to fix shit a lot of the time
>>737005017I've had almost no problems with games themselves, but mods are annoying in linux. Nothing is impossible so far, but it adds an additional layer of complication to what was already a fiddly process at times. If its a game where you just stuff things in a game directory then its fine but I mean things that want special launcher .exes, do dll overrides or want to handle running the game themselves.In your case you just need to run the mod .exe in the same prefix which isn't too bad. Use protontricks-launch, it's how I installed the TFix patch for Thief
If you don't like tinkering and CLI stay away from Linux.That's it.
>>737008930You've sold me, installing Linux now.
>>737009023Good, it's a lot of fun.
>>736996313CoolerControl if you want a system monitor and a way to adjust fan speeds.
>>736992357>the issue is that many users don't read source codenone of the users read the sorce code.It's open and it's safe is a big fat meme.
>>736949026The only thing stopping me is that I use Creative Suite as well as games and I'd have to run those apps in emulation which would kill performance. I'd probably use Steam OS then as it's great on Deck.
>>737007436I've seen a bug that presents almost exactly like this in Nvidia driver. Old one though, not really relevant anymore and it was part of a beta driver
Do emulators run well on Linux?
>>736968009diinki is a cute
>>737010706That's broad question.Which consoles do you intend to emulate?
>>737010974PS2, PSP, 3DS
>>737011357abandon hope
>>737011357I haven't tried 3DS, but PSP emulation is solid.PS2 emulation sucks no matter the OS.Getting the emulator itself running is just as easy as on windows, just download a flatpak or appimage file from the website and double click the icon. This way you don't have to rely on your packet manager.
>>737012051>PS2 emulation sucks no matter the OSworks fine on android
>>737011357the emulators with a opengl or vulkan renderer should have no issues on your linux machine. there are some emulators that are better on directx or only work on directx in general (xbox 360)
>>737012141Popular games get a lot of attention so they are more likely to run alright but there are still many games where you need to play with software mode to not experience major glitches. It's a hit or miss.
>>737012419ok that's probably true cause i havent tried any obscure games yet
>>737005017how is it any different than windows if it forces you to update?
>>737010974Android
>>736949026No and it will never be as good as Windows>But ValveDoesn't matter because all developers will always chase Windows>5% on steamNo developers cares you will always have to troubleshoot every game for a reason or anotherLinux it's ok only if you are an enthusiats that likes troubleshooting stuff
>>737014308windows will be gone by 2050 at the current rate, stop living under a rock
>>737014308>you will always have to troubleshoot every game for a reason or anotherI already did that on Windows
>>736949026It gets better by the minute (just look at gamingonlinux.com), can you say the same about any other OS?
>>737014513True only for old games, also troubleshooting on windows it's easier
>>736949026It gets better by the minute (just follow gamingonlinux.com), can you say the same about any other OS?
>>737012051>PS2 emulation sucks no matter the OS.PS2 emulation is good now, has been for a while, since the PCSX2 overhaul.
>>737014513For example? Over the past 20 years of using windows, I haven't had to fix games.
>>737014308Every game? Fuck off, tech-illiterate faggot. I've had to troubleshoot like two games ever and it entails: set to Proton Experimental. Fixed. Was it so hard?
>>737014676What the fuck? No it's not, absolutely delusional. It's easier to help people using windows troubleshoot because only windows 11 exists while on Linux you have shit burgers like bazzite that are miserable to troubleshoot, but if you're trying to solve any problems on your own rather than trying to help, Linux is infinitely easier because you don't need a fucking debugger for basic information gathering.
>>736993641>Has windows 11 really gotten that bad?unironically, yes. i grew up on windows and it used to feel different, it feels like jeetified slop code and locked down. id rather just not play certain anti cheat games, 99% of my library is fine so ill be okay forever. fuck windows and microsoft>>736996080this. also weirdly enough ive had more random errors with windows breaking fucking weird shit (audio, graphics drivers, explorer crashes, blue screens etc) and the only issue ive had on linux was nvidia wayland issues, which were "solved" when i got an amd gpu
>>737014898Audio is also much better on Linux since you can use Pipewire and Wireplumber which mean you can even switch audiocards mid-game and it will *never ever* have issues. You can pipe audio wherever you like. Want to push your VST sounds directly to Browser discord? Just pipe it into the input. No need for Voicemeeter or whatever which introduces massive latency anyway.
>>737014838>debuggerWtf are you talking about?I mean you have to troubleshoot not the developer
steam games run perfectly with 0 issues, to run non steam games i just add them to steam but you can do it through wine/proton outside of steam as well, to be honest switching to kde fedora/nobara was the best decision i could've made, not being able to run multiplayer slop with kernel level anticheat is just another plus
>>737015097If you want to run games off steam, old stuff runs right off with wine, but if you add them to Lutris or something similar, that enables all the stuff you need and it'll be 100% fine most of the time. You can even install the games hackily through Lutris' "Add locally installed game" if the installer is giving you trouble.This mostly fixes any issue you might have. Admittedly I played E33 on Windows because I didn't want to tinker with it t. Tumbleweed since early 2024.
>>736949026Just try it out and see for yourself. Pick a distro, install steam and try shit.
>>737015057What, like googling symptoms or what? That's a complete shit show on windows. Infinite piles of unreliable and inaccurate information. It's not better on Linux, but shit vs shit is still shit. I am talking about figuring out what the problem is and then solving it, not randomly trying suggestions from the internet and huffing hopium.
>>736987798>turn shader compilation off>vertex explosions everywhere a couple of weeks later
>this thread is still upLook, if you are interested in dipping your toes into linux gaming just dualboot from a second hard drive and try out something like cachyOS or bazzite. just make sure you dont install linux on the same drive as windows, as windows is KNOWN to fuck up linux bootloaders when on the same drive.
>>737015280>What, like googling symptoms or what? That's a complete shit show on windowsIt's not because windows is the same for everyone while for linux you have to search for your specific distro and also hope that your hardware is not the problem (The same hardware where the game you are trying to troubleshoot can run if you do it on windows btw)
>>737015219good to know dude, haven't installed a game through an installer in a long time, miss those days
>>737015403>ust make sure you dont install linux on the same drive as windows, as windows is KNOWN to fuck up linux bootloaders when on the same drive.This can be solved by manually partitioning the disk, with a separate UEFI partition.
>>736949264It has nothing to do with Linux, and is optional. The setting in Steam is off by default on both Windows and Linux.
>>736949168Except edge cases of specific software not functioning, even with wine/proton. Luna Translator being the software preventing me from taking that leap, as I value it too much for my studies.
>>737015414I already said that googling and hoping isn't the way to troubleshoot on either windows or Linux. Also you don't need to tell me what doing it is like on windows, I used it for decades so I know. The problem isn't that there are many windows distributions, but rather that there are infinite number of broken windows setups and symptom overlaps which makes googling for solutions a joke. For example, most people don't even know what csm is, but prior to windows 11, that caused all kinds of issues such as non resizable BAR.
>2020+6>Still no way to change saturation in WaylandYou would expect basic function like that to be present but no. All you can do is change ICC profile.
>>737015723Everytime I had to troubleshooting games on windows I always founs the solution on google and it was always easy to implement, you are just wrong.
>>737015724>Luna Translatorhttps://github.com/davconde/LunaTranslator_ProtonToolstook 2 seconds of googling>but my game isnt on steam!manually add the non steam game to steam and launch it through there, then you can use the specific tool with proton. problem solved. >but its not a game that im using it forok but you can still literally use steam to launch ANYTHING.
>>737008930I dont know what CLI is. Enlighten me
>>737009628I don't need to read the code, because someone with severe autism has already read it for me line by line and approved it.
>>737015965command line interface, instead of graphical user interface (GUI). AKA things that run in the terminal. The anon is saying that for modern linux distros you dont really need to do much inside of the terminal unless you are a power user.
>>737015965lollmao
>>737015097I have been very pleased with Nobara so farI set it on a new NVME so I can dual boot. No issues after using it for about a month. Haven't went back to Windows once
>>737016018Yeah for real the most you need even on the most "advanced" distros are update commands. >>737016083 Been on Tumbleweed for a few years now. Linux is good shit these days. Yeah you'll very occasionally have to sort shit out, but mainly if you're a real power user, like me with VSTs w.r.t. wine versioning and yabridge or something, but it's real rare nowadays.
>>736967115If all you want to do is game listen to the second guy or use Kubuntu. I started with Mint because it looked like a Just Works type of GUI for my first Linux OS then realized Mint gets few updates, gutted a bunch of dependencies you need to plug and play games and has horrible documentation as compared to Ubuntu from less use.Kubuntu is a version of Ubuntu that has even less issues because Kubuntu uses a UI that has less issue with vidya.99.99% of games I can torrent and run/install by adding them to my steam library as a non-steam game and setting compatibility mode to Proton 10.
tfw run windows subsystem for Linux and get the best of both worlds
>>736949264Old hardware.>>736949085Pootel.
>>737016382>best of both worldsyou're running windows directly on your systemno, the best of both worlds would be to do it through a vm or a dual boot of a castrated windows 10 with no internet access
>>737015403>windows is KNOWN to fuck up linux bootloaders when on the same driveShit, is this what happened to me? >>736964259It only happened after I installed a windows partition. I thought I broke it but if I can blame Windows that makes me feel better.
>>737016441>dual boot of a castrated windows 10 with no internet accessthis is my dream setup. gonna do it one day. windows should be kept completely seperated from the internet because there are just way too many fucking exploits and back doors.
>>737015097You can also use Lutris if you don't want everyone to see you playing the Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno or Ai Suru Tsuma, Mariko ga Rinshitsu de Dakareru Made ~Anata ga Shiranai Koto, Kare ga Takusan Oshiete Kuremashita~. It supports Proton too. My only complaint is that it takes like 5-10 clicks to set a single game up, wish you could automate it so that a double click set it all up automatically.
>>737016578I haven't even tried Lutris yet because I was surprised by how well umu-run works. I can run a random .exe in a portable install on my old ntfs drive and it just works and picks up where I left off on Windows
>>737016783It's really easy. Click "add already installed game" or whatever the fuck, set name, set the prefix dir, game dir, executable dir (almost always nearly same dir so just copy the furthest-in one) and set it to Proton Experimental. Done. Takes 20s per game. Sure, it's a little tedious, but it will vastly improve performance for games that aren't 20+ years old. There's a few like GPU tweaks that need to be enabled for those.
>>737015414>while for linux you have to search for your specific distroThere's only 3 core flavours. Arch, Debian and Fedora. Every single distro is based off of one of these. Cachy is Arch, Mint is Debian, Bazzite is Fedora, and so on. They are all functionally identical, even between flavours. It's really no easier or harder troubleshooting issues on Windows than it is on Linux. It's just different.Most of the time, for gaming specifically, the issue is fixed by choosing a different version of proton, or installing a package.
I installed every arch AUR package and was able to run this game with full hardware support even when it couldn't run the shaders(no more software mode). it had visual artifacts but it still ran. arch is the best. fix your system with the aur. no risk of viruses cause it comes from the aur, not a website or something like that.game cant run? fix it with AUR.
>>737016783Thanks, I'll check it out. >>737016854Just the executable dir is enough most of the time. It's still tedious, but oh well, at least there's a Steam alternative if you don't want to use it for whatever reason.
>>737016441>>737016573I really just want docking to work properly. Winapps and Winboat just aren't there yet. Still need to rely on a VM with GPU passthrough. If I could run Windows as a service and just use whatever apps I want smoothly I would be so happy.
>>737017013OK make Apex work with AUR
cachyOS has been treating me well for almost 2 years now. full amd system though and i generally dont play online shooters, only street fighter
