Wtf does normal type even mean? Is it just fluffy animals?
>we're just normal pokemon
It means physical
it means they cant harness elemntal powers
>>736953031hyper beam>>736953079is fighting an elemental power
>>736952975>mymums ferret>my mums bear>my mums beaver>my mums deer
>>736952975Just regular animals like deer and bears
>>736953104You can harness the power of martial arts. Fighting types are like normal but are trained in martial combat through their natural evolution.
>>736953143>we thought this were me mum's dog, but it turns out he's a poofter
It means they arent gay
>>736952975The vast majority of them are based on mammals or birds, while some like Arceus or Porygon have it to represent the concept of neutrality or plainness sitting between the other types. I can't imagine why non-balance reasons why Smoliv or Pyroar should be half-Normal while Sunflora or Arcanine aren't, though.
>>736952975"No particular element"This can either mean regular animal mons that don't rely on elemental powers, or the complete absence of a type for type-changing gimmick mons like Ditto or Kecleon
>>736953598The only one I sorta understand is the Heliolisk line because their whole thing is sunlight; more pure white sun energy and less zappy-yellow electricity
>>736953598because they take double damage from fighting types
>>736953784They take double damage from Fighting because they're Normal types, they aren't Normal types because they take double damage from Fighting.
>>736954265you're telling me that if we declared them not to be normal they suddenly wouldn't take as much damage when you punch them in the face? prepposterous
Being normal apparently means being tan/brown colored
Some people will writhe and spit and seethe and shit at this but the best way to explain it has always been "it's a type of elemental energy like the others. Yes, they're all elements of some sort. No, not like the platonic elements, they're their own type of designation. They're types."
>>736954510it's less of a stretch to say "they're the ones who are particularly vulnerable to punches and not at all afraid of ghosts"
>normal being paired with dual types>normal / flyingThis annoys me
>>736954564types are inherent to pokemon, they aren't just a description of them. It doesn't make sense otherwise.
>>736954626types are a gameplay mechanic and everything else stems from that. the lore is merely an extension of the game
>>736954265Canonically wrong. Types are human made labels to help document pokemon. Magnemite for example was always what it was, they just didnt bother to call it "metal" as a type until they found a bunch more "metal" pokemon and officialized the steel typing. Pokemon exist as they are, and everything else is you trying to document and categorize them.
>>736954619>mfwand i used to think that flying normal was a meme
>>736954687So Magnemite didn't take double damage from Fighting or Fire attacks in Gen 1, but does in Gen 2, because some humans pointed at it one day and said "You're a Steel type!"?
>>736953214Fighting types have access to chi, and the variety of skills they have available is a result of this(elemental punches, for example).
>>736954757honestly, rookidee is gay, no reason for it to escape the normal designation
>>736954654>>736954687then how do they do research and discover new types, then? That's how it's always been presented. It's not a new classification, it's "we discovered these are actually this type we didn't know about".
>>736954859normal types get better access to tms than any other type, this is stupid
>>736954884who cares, it's not meant to be taken that seriously. you people are so fucking autistic
>>736953008what do you mean, "normal" pokemon?
>>736954619This
>>736954619>>736954757Notably, there are no Flying/Normal types. Instead, they're all Normal/Flying. There's only 3 mono-Flying mons not counting alt forms, and there's only 6 other primary Flying-types: Noibat, Noivern, Corviknight, Cramorant, Bombirdier, and... Flamigo.
>>736954937Someone who tries to win an argument by invoking the Pokémon canon clearly takes it seriously.
>>736954887Normal types dont learn a lot of those moves naturally though. The larger connection between body and spirit is what makes fighting types more capable of learning these moves naturally while simultaneously also being a good excuse for why psychic types gain and advantage over them.
>>736955020such people should have their balls extinguished
>>736955016>Notably, there are no Flying/Normal types. Instead, they're all Normal/Flying.Does the order matter?
>>736952975It means there is nothing special about them.
>>736954937>I think X>No it's Y>But evidence Z supports X, not Y>Who cares you're so fucking autistic stop taking it so seriouslyYou've made yourself out to be a fool, you know that?
>>736954328Yes.
>>736954990>we're just innocent pokemon
It just means a very basic animal/concept with nothing too extreme added to it.
>>736955067it doesn't really have any consequences, but it is proactively chosen in each case
>>736955067Only in the sense that they're listed a certain way consistently, as far as I'm aware. Still a funny little distinction, though.
>>736955116please kill yourself and save your parents any continued suffering
>>736955206You're the one that broke down into a seething dismissal at a simple and straightforward disagreement in a casual conversation. I would consider that extremely embarrassing, personally.
>>736955270it was just such a tedious argument, i felt such pity for the people in your life
>>736954619normal flying is a better typing than mono flying anyway, gets an extra STAB, immunity and loses the fighting weakness. sure you're only neutral to fighting but that's fine generally
>>736955067Its unintended behavior, but I think in Gen I the enemy AI only checks your first listed Type when determining if it can attack you with a Super-Effective move (which it always prioritizes), so a Graveler would keep on trying to hit your Zapdos with Earthquake and not Rock Throw.
>>736954619I love every pokémon pictured here.
>>736955308>it was just such a tedious argument,it was 6 posts total before you got fed up LMAO
>>736954861it specially makes no sense because its evo is also neutral to fighting so like ???
>>736953079>MEOWTH learned THUNDERBOLT!
>>736954831Nah, it always took double damage, the calcs the pokedex ran were just bad. Unless you actually beleive that when two pokemon stand in front of eachother a HP bar appears and a dialogue box shows the trainers when something is/is not super effective?
>>736954619Why are all the birds angry?
>>736952975It means they don't excel at anything.
>>736955067Practically, for a majority of pokemon, not really. But a pokemon's type is supposed to mirror it's concept very closely. Something like Dhelmise is a haunted swab of seaweed, so it gets the ghost/grass typing. Whereas a pokemon like Bramblin is a tumbleweed that trapped a wandering spirit, so it's a grass/ghost type.
fairy type is the probably the worst and most nonsensical.
normal type is a baseline pokemon, before the special/physical split normal was a physical type. it represented a standard, normal creature that attacked with its body and had resilience to many elemental forcesbecause they were bulky and normal, trained fighting types excelled at defeating them, and ghost moves were ineffective because they're pokemon all about stability and being baseline while ghost is a type dedicated to countering a specialized typeit's not as clean anymore without the physical/special stats being related to types but they still represent a baseline.
>>736955862The other day I just learned that it got discontinued in the TCG since SwSh.
Could they ever make a new type work? It'll be 13 years since Fairy
The only chance we had at a normal/ice type was the Vanilluxe line.
>>736956286No, but they could have reworked the entire type system a decade ago to make future additions/changes easier.But Game Freak is a factory-line company now
>>736956304>4x fighting weaknessno thanks
>>736956304There doesn't need to be a mon for every combo
>>736954757It is pretty funny how they just dropped the pretense of the normal type mattering for the Rookidee family lol
>>736955534Meowth can't get a STAB from it, but it can get a STAB from Fury Swipes and Pay Day.>>736955067It does. Rhyhorn is Ground/Rock, but Geodude is Rock/Ground. Geodude is more of a rock and Rhyhorn is more of an animal with a hard carapace, so that gives it its rock-typing but the ground-typing ties to Rhydon, who can survive in molten lava and dig through bedrock with its horn.
>>736956304>Normal/Buga house fly maybe?
>>736952975They don't have any special type so they're just normal.
>>736955206I love you anon
>>736955067The order doesn't really matter, and functionally there's no difference, but like >>736955837 says, usually in Pokemon's game language the first typing tends to be the pokemon's primary typing or what influences them the mostAnother good example of this is Rotom, where it's first type is always electric, and it's other forms only change what the secondary typing is
>>736956286Fairy was a reaction to Dragon types walking all over the Gen IV and V metagames, essentially dominating the better of seven years. If a typing gets out of hand for far too long, then maybe we'll see a new one but Game Freak went adjusting more dials since, with outright removing moves from the learnpools outright since Gen VIII and maybe nerfing here and there. Doesn't stop them from making completely busted bullshit though.
Normal in is the opposite of Ghost. A Normal-type is just a living Ghost-type. A Ghost-type is just a dead Normal-type.
>>736955764How would you feel being a giant fat pidgeon and your new master sends you into battle against some giant slime monster or some karate master who punches the shit out of you
>>736956683So what if a fire type dies? They don't get to be ghosts?
>>736952975why are they all brown
>>736956286The thing is Fairy has been one of the best types by far ever since it was introduced. Game freak are not good at introducing new things and a new type would undoubtedly break things
>>736956304You also have to count the inverses, too. Bug/Normal isn't the same as Normal/Bug, so that's eighteen combinations not yet used.
>>736956819No fire types don't have souls.
>>736956286Yeah, it would be trivial. There are several good candidates already: Sound/Music, Cosmic/Stellar(but as a real type), Feral, Regal, Abyssal, someone even suggested Wind and Wave types which I think would be kino as it would bump it to 20, could accomodate the flying type split, could accomodate the excess of water types, AND wave could reference sound waves and accomodate those as well. Plenty, plenty of options, and it's easy to make them fit into the type chart and to make moves for them.
>>736956414>dies to a close combatvs>dies to a close combatthe ghost immunity alone is worth the trade.
>>736956286Pretty unusual to be playing a JRPG with a Dark / Evil element that isn't rivaled by a Light / Holy element.
>>736956862Brown is normal, SAD!
>>736956286I think that>Cosmic >Sound>Wind >VirusCould work, mainly to supplement some types. I don't think Wave could work as a type, but Wind can work for Flying-types without wings.
forget new typeshow do we make ice usable again
>>736956286>>736957946>>736958095>>736958197Don't forget a technology type, that's a natural fit.
>>736958260Tech, Robot, Machine, or Cyber.So make that five.
>>736955308This is one of the most Gen Z posts I've ever seen. You can't handle a conversation that lasts more than two fucking replies you genuine child?
>>736958095Isn't that what fairy type is meant to be?
>>736958640If only.Fairy is also the dragon and fighting counter for some reason.
>>736958373>>736958260>>736957946These are all retarded, I'm glad you're not a game designer
>>736958640Fairy's meant to be another mythical counterpart to dragons/Dragon
>>736958902>These are all retarded,bet you want rock and ground to be merged.
>>736956304A normal/ice would be extremely easy to design. A husky, a snow hare, whatever.
>>736952975gen 2 had such a shitty dex
>>736955308Next time try conceding with grace instead of pouting like a fagsounds like you're some special foreign breed of faggot too, why don't you fuck off to Dickcord or whatever
>>736956472Wrong
>>736954510>platonic elementswtf does that even mean? like friendly elements?
>>736956304>we had at a normal/ice type was the Vanilluxe line.why? it's a literal floating icicle, there's no more iceability than this
>>736958640no fairy type just means pink and gay pokemon
>special fighting moves>physical psychicwhy
>>736953104qi
>>736955048on the other hand, if they need extinguished, maybe its better if we let their balls burn?
>>736963354because they're elemental affinities. A special fighting move is literally a fighting-type energy attack. A physical psychic move is literally a physical attack imbued with psychic energy.
>>736963354For things like this.
>>736963546its like training your fire attacks by drinking water. a psychic move that relies on training up your physical strength makes zero sense and vice versa
>>736963559thats a normal attack
>>736955764have you ever met a bird in your life? those fuckers are ALWAYS pissed off.
>>736963642They're just easily excitable and the only way they can interact with the world is with sharp, pointy bits
>>736963581No it makes perfect sense, because it's fighting-type energy and psychic-type energy, and that's it. There are Fighting-type mons better at using Special attacks and there are Psychic-type mons better at using Physical attacks, and there's nothing strange about it. Just types.
>>736952975>2026>FAIRY is it's own type>wind/air isn't>DARK is it's own type>light isn't>STEEL, GROUND, ROCK and ICE & WATER are all separate types>somehow clearly spiritual, light or energy based attacks like Hyper Beam are still classified as "normal">DRAGON is a type, but charizard isn't one
>>736954391It's a fantasy setting, after all.
