What even was their problem?
I dont want another pretty faceI dont just another one to holdI just want you and your beautiful HEART
>>736953175They were tired of the Heartless getting all the fun jobs.
I used to think they were the coolest shit when i was a teen
Micky should have nuked those subhumans
Is the ridiculous chair thing ever made fun of by the characters?
Xehanort nobody wanted control of kingdom hearts i assume to give them actual feelings they don't actually feel anything they are just pretending and going off of memories
>>736953357They are designed to specifically do that.
>>736953175no hearts
>>736953357I thought they were gay as fuck when I was a teen
>>736953446Unfortunately no. Very few non organization characters ever even see that room, and you'd think someone in the org would crack a joke (mainly axel) but they pretty much play it straight.
>>736953542You think about gays a lot?
>>736953175They didn't have emotions or something. Despite the fact that they show emotions when speaking all the time.
>>736953597>queen minnie banishes pete to the shadow realm because he's a poor sport at losing
>>736953597Their whole goal and motivation is inherently emotional.
>>736953539They just larp and trio during 358/2 proved that they do
>>736953175>>736953717> it was all just a prank broman the nobodies deserve to be gassed
>>736953357https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZs29IAu3c
>>736953175You try getting in and out of that chair every day.
>>736953643He kicked over buckets of water. That's the worst crime imaginable.
>>736953175Gaslighting
>>736953175>>736953446>>736953887If I shove them off, will they die?
>>736953175Xemnas aside, what happened to the members' Heartless? There's no way they'd manifest a basic bitch Shadow.
>>736953968It's a big chair.
>>736954023for you
>>736953968>Axel you bastard you greased my chair didn't you aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>736953990>Sora/Roxas and also technically Kairi/Namine because fuckin whatever
>>736953175How do they get out if/into those chairs?
>>736954316Darkness teleport. Legitimately, they just have a ball of darkness form and they appear and disappear. Its not like gravity matters in a kingdom hearts game. Theres zero fall damage and sora flips around the sky like an air ninja
>>736954316They can set the heights of the chairs themselves. Nomura said it in an interview about why no organization member sets their chair higher than Xemnas."During the meetings, the members of Organization XIII are sitting in chairs. Is the height of these chairs determined by things like their skills and abilities?Nomura: No, the height of the chairs is not fixated, they move. That is to say, the height is up to each person. The leader, Xemnas, is always the highest and to be at the same height as him would have a pretty bad feeling, so the other members wouldn't do that. (laughs)"
>>736953175too much -------- up their asses
>>736954550this makes more sense, and I was thinking about the chairs being adjustable. of course nobody went higher than him, since he's the strongest. Imagine a boss mode where you break into the room during a meeting and then have to challenge them all at once. Sick shit.
>>736954550I love how the organization gets characterized in literally everything except the games themselves, but i guess anyone except Demyx also being a goofy idiot wouldn't have sit well with edgy teens just yet
>>736953175Depending on which member you're talking about, it's usually either autism or boredom. Autism has more, though.>Xemnas, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus. Zexion, Saix, MarluxiaAutism>Xigbar, Axel, Luxord, LarxeneBoredomI'd argue Roxas is the only example of both Boredom and Autism but that's only because we get to experience the depths of both due to him being the playable protagonist of Days. If we just saw his actions from the outside as we do the others, it'd probably just be Autism.
they were nobody and they wanted to be somebody
>>736954943larxene is based because she gets to be a huge fucking unapolgetic villain bitch, but is forever doomed to lackey level (now antihero or whatever since she's got a different self in the mobile stuff)
>>736954992I USED TO BE SOMEBODY
explain what kingdom hearts (the entity) is in one sentence
>>736955170light
>>736953494That was the cover story he told the other organization members but I think he just wanted power
>>736954943I'm happy with KH1 ansem. Not a lot of actual screen time, but good presence between off screen voice lines and ansem reports. You get the sense that he was a normal scientist that just got corrupted or some shit. Old man xehanort had potential with voldemort shit and body switching shit, but he was almost ruined by "lol I was the good guy all along"I won't really argue for KH2 xehanort or young xehanort. They both felt like mindless pawns just fulfilling quotas, and young xehanort had way too much sass and evilness for someone that is supposed to be "the good guy all along"
>>736954943>Ganonas a Zelda "fan"fuck offGanon hasn't been good since LttP
>>736953175They lost their hearts doing experiments with darkness, becoming empty shells that nature didn't want to exist. So they banded together to continue their research to find a way to restore their lost, missing hearts. Eventually they found out that their lost hearts likely belonged to Heartless that were roaming around the worlds. But there's no actual way to tell which Heartless has their hearts, so their only solution was to genocide them en-masse, plus to scout out the worlds to track down the most powerful of them and eliminate them, and collect the hearts they release and gather them together to create an artificial Kingdom Hearts. Once that Kingdom Hearts was complete they'd plug themselves into it and use its power to download their hearts back in their bodies, becoming real people again.However, they were actually being taken for a ruse. The Organization leaders, Xemnas and Xigbar, never had any plans of restoring everyone's hearts. Instead their real plan was to gather 13 empty vessels to fill with duplicate copies of Master Xehanort's heart, creating 13 people 'possessed' by a mad scientist/rogue Keyblade master obsessed with darkness. This is one half of the synthesis recipe for the ultimate Keyblade, the X-Blade, which can call upon the real Kingdom Hearts, and remake the universe as its wielder sees fit. The other half are gathering 7 people filled with pure light, a task with Ansem sought to complete.To that end Xemnas spread the information that Nobodies cannot feel emotions, and can only mimic what they remembered from their previous lives. In truth, a Nobody is a temporary state of existence. Nature doesn't like them sure, but a Nobody that sticks around long enough will naturally grow a new heart and become a fully-fledged person again. It was important that Organization XIII believed this lie so they'd stick together and Xemnas could accomplish his plan.
>>736955301So what’s the point of Xion?
>>736955192couldn't have said it better, brother
>>736953175Initially it was a cool story of people who lost their hearts and wanted to feel... anything again.Their leader was an insane scientist who surrendered his heart to the darkness voluntarily.Then it was retconned into all of them being ancient keyblade wielders and the entire thing being some old fuck's master plan to gather 13 darknesses (which doesn't even make sense because nobidies are neither light nor darkness) which made everything super boring.
>>736955232Old Nort in BBS with Nimoy voicing him was great. Really, between KH1-BBS, they knocked it out of the park with the villain voice cast which makes a lot of villains work above their pay grade. All 3 of them absolutely steal any scene they show up in and I can quote many lines just form how damn good their VAs were.Even BBS who I fucking hate.
>>736953357>were
>>736954078Can you imagine KEKAROOOP9OOO9
>>736955434Roxas needed a GF and they decided to ship Namine with Riku because they had one conversation in chains.As for in-universe... Uh.... don't ask questions. Don't wonder why they bothered with the fake Kingdom Hearts in the first place.
>>736955434Organization XIII only had one way to free hearts to actually build their artificial Kingdom Hearts: the 13th member, Roxas, who wielded a Keyblade. The upper members discussed what would happen if Roxas ever went rogue or died, and decided they needed a backup, insurance for if that ever happened. So Vexen deployed Xion, the "14th" member. Xion is an experimental early-stage Replica, one designed to leech Sora's subconscious memories from Roxas to acquire power, and through that, the power to wield a Keyblade too.As time went on Xion grew stronger than Roxas, and the more memories she consumed the closer she became to becoming a Replica of Sora instead. The Organization figured that two powerful Keyblade wielders was too great a liability, and set them to kill each other. Xion took the fall and restored all the memories she stole from Roxas to complete him, not wanting to kill him. And because Xion was a twisted knot of borrowed memories in the shape of a person, once that knot was untied, everyone's memories of her disappeared.But like most Nobodies, she grew her own heart during her time too, and retained her existence within Roxas, and then within Sora when Roxas merged back into Sora. At that point the Organization relied on Sora to slay Heartless and help them with their plans.
>>736955480>Then it was retconned into all of them being ancient keyblade wieldersOnly some of them are ancient keyblade warriors, unless something's changed since, correct me if I'm wrong. Most of them were scientists/staff at Hollow Bastion.
>>736955665>I - Xemnas (Hollow Bastion Scientist/Keyblade Master)>II - Xigbar (Hollow Bastion Guard/Ancient Keyblade Master)>III - Xaldin (Hollow Bastion Guard)>IV - Vexen (Hollow Bastion Scientist)>V - Lexaeus (Hollow Bastion Guard)>VI - Zexion (Hollow Bastion Scientist)>VII - Saix (Hollow Bastion Scientist)>VIII - Axel (Hollow Bastion Scientist)>IX - Demyx (Past unknown)>X - Luxord (Chauffeur within 'Unreality' who wound up crossing over)>XI - Marluxia (Ancient Keyblade Wielder, Dandelions leader)>XII - Larxene (Ancient Keyblade Wielder, Dandelions member)>XIII - Roxas (Keyblade Wielder)>XIV - Xion (Keyblade Wielder)
>>736954550>(laughs)Why do they always do this?
>>736955878It's a transcript of the interview anon
> muh keyblades
>>736955946I know but it seems like every time someone interviews a japanese dev / author he laughs inbetween statements a lot.
>>736955994That's just in their nature
>>736955878They are the masters of passive aggressiveness. Politeness folded 1000 times.They are the NWF in real life
>tfw replied to the post wipe anonit's over
>>736954943Riku and Xemnas are good villains. Same with Marluxia and Larxene in COM. Also Vanitas
>>736955192>>736955475Does Namine ever even get properly called out for giving Sora permanent brain damage or do they forever stick with "tehee she just a lonely gurl"?
Why did The MoM decide to pose as Demyx?
It's been a while, but why aren't there any disney characters on the heartless council?
>>736956807She paid penance for restoring Sora's memories at the price of any memories of her. She's not constantly in jeopardy for this and Riku and Mickey filled him in about the gist of what happened in Castle Oblivion, so Namine's now another girl that Sora wants to be friends with, even if he can't remember their first meeting.
>>736957120Why does she continue to troll everyone in KH2 then?
>>736957082Cause the Council was made from traitorous scientists and guards from Hollow Bastion and rare individuals that Xehanort found throughout the worlds.
>>736957183She... doesn't? She's largely kept under lock and key by DiZ, who despises all Nobodies and only keeps her alive as long as she's useful. She laments her fate, feeling like she's doomed to fade into darkness, until she merges with Kairi and appreciates becoming part of someone else, a bittersweet end to what she thought was always meant to be purely tragic.
>>736957313He knows that he's supposed to thank Namine, and thanks her briefly for what she does to help in KH3, but says that this thank you isn't the big, formal thank you that he owes her. So he WAS filled in to what happened, to an extent. He just doesn't remember himself, hence not recognizing Marluxia and Larxene.
>>736955434They needed a character to get close to Roxas while he was in the organization but didn't want to use Namine
>>736955480>(which doesn't even make sense because nobidies are neither light nor darkness)they aren't nobodies in 3
>736955702>736955781why are you deleting shit
>>736957313he does know the broad strokes of what happened at castle oblivion >which is why he does not recognize Larxene and Marluxia.how the hell would riku/mickey explaining the events at castle oblivion magically make sora know what they look like when they didn't even encounter them in their side of the events>Nomura is a shit for brain storyteller.no you're just being literarily filtered by a game children play
>>736958083i think he's like. perma evading
>>736955649Kingdom hearts makes your forget how messed up it is at times. I know KH3 gave everyone a happy ending but everyone was pretty much dead after KH2. Namine, Xion, Roxas, Axel, wayfinder trio had to deal with a lot.
>>736955170The plane that completes the cycle of life by converting hearts into light
>>736958658Yep. It was Sora who went "MY HEART IS NOT A HOTEL, FREELOADERS. EVERYONE OUT!" and forced them to get their own bodies again. There's also the child soldiers, survivor's guilt, and backstabbing in UX, and the school shooting situation in Dark Road.
>>736955480I thought it was funny that he did all of this just to say fuck it and grab 13 versions of himself
>>736955170the heart of all worlds
>>736958807>It was Sora who went "MY HEART IS NOT A HOTEL, FREELOADERS. EVERYONE OUT!" and forced them to get their own bodies again.funny if you word it like that, he was tired of having xion, roxas, ventus and namine looking over his shoulders when he was trying to bone kairi
