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>>736962817so it saves the time of buying+refunding? ok?
>>736962817poorfags with pentium cpus and voodoo cards rejoice
>>736962817this means nothing to me my machine can run anything and I literally never even go to the options menu after the first time I set things to the max
>>736962867>voodooHolyshit, are there any voodoochads itt
>>736962817on what settings?
>>736962947Yours.
>>736962891Enjoy running everything at 1080p 60fps one console gen from now (note: the games look no better)
>>736962817I have never refunded a game because my FPS was too low. I only ask for refunds if the game is just straight up non-functional or the first like hour of the game is so boring I cant see myself ever playing it again. I doubt this will put a meaningful dent in refunding.
>>736962817idk at the same time this is a double edged sword they might not issue refunds because "well according to our data the game runs fine on your system" etc
>>736962817Why is the text AI generated?
>>736962961i dont own the game so my settings dont exist retard
>no more refundslmao, this is a win? sounds anto consumer as fuck>no refund sir, you shouldve checked the fps predictor before you bought. 30fps with dips falls within acceptable gameplay according to the bell curve
>>736962817>no more refundskek yeah sure
>>736963096youre not very good at reading are you
>>736962817>Huge>its literally nothingHuge would be actually owning what you buy and not having a denuvo tumor on your pc
>>736963096retarded brown ESL
>>736962817>steam is about to remove one of the biggest problems in PC gamingthey're going to remove minorities (like this one >>736963096) , AAA studios, and israel?
>>736963140>Huge would be actually owning what you buyYou do though.>not having a denuvo tumor on your pcIf you do, that falls squarely on you buying denuvo slop. This isn't an issue otherwise.
>>736962817>No more refundsFlawless victory, mutts are joke.
>>736964246>>736963096Are you retards actually illiterate?
>>736963140>its literally nothingAnd yet it will cause devs and journalists and shareholders to complain a lot.
>>736963594>they're going to remove minorities (like this one >>736963096)yes, store will just tell them their favelasystem can't play anything>AAA studiostheir slop will get labeled as sub-30 FPS, on top of the AI label, making them lose sales>and israel?they tried, and jew york is now suing them to the ground. Maybe next time.
>>736962817>one of the biggest problems in the PC gamingWhich wouldn't have been a problem in the first place in not for those retardedly overinflated hardware prices thanks to the AI hype.
>>736963137>>736963239>>736964273really paints a picture of how brown /v/ is
>>736962817If this doesn't show the estimated FPS for every single combination of graphics settings possibe then it's just a waste of time and a 100% useless feature though.
>>736962853When you refund a game on Steam, Valve eats the cost of the payment processor fee. It's not much on each sale but it adds up. Thus it's in their interest to minimize avoidable refunds.
>>736962817Sounds good
>>7369647794chan, and the internet in general.
>>736963013Anon, refunds is not something they do because they're being nice. They do it because they're obligated to. The 2 hour auto refund is just them optimizing cost/benefit, because it means only a fraction of refund cases actually need a paid human to look into it. As an unintentional bonus it also fools normies into believing their right to return only lasts 2 hours, which was definitely not an intended sidegoal.
>that will be 60 fps minus 10% denuvo tax
>>736964901I doubt Steam is capable of tracking all the settings in every game like that, but it can probably gather some basic stuff like resolution.Might not be that helpful to people wanting to know if their 5080 will get 120 or 180fps. But it should help they guy with a 2060 just hoping to get 60fps.They might have some kind of Steamworks integration for developers thst choose to adopt it though. That might be able to report more detailed settings choices.It would be cool if it could gather data and compare various configurations to determine which settings have the most impact and then recommend specific setting adjustments to users.
>>736963140But you don't own consoles
>steam says that now it will be possible to avoid refunds handed out because the game you paid for runs like shit and instead you will have a prediction of average performance before you even buy>shitskins see "no more refunds" and instantly forget everything else while shitting their pants from shock and angerFunny
>>736962817Damn! Yeah this is a huge problem on console where everybody has the same hardware. There is no way of knowing how a game runs at all!!This is a pc exclusive problem that gets fixed, not a win
>>736965632That's the tradeoff to having completely unlocked performance and universal compatibility. Meanwhile Bloodborne still runs at 1080p 30fps on a PS5 Pro due to the locked down ecosystem.
>>736965632>Being able to use whatever hardware you like is a problemYou're actual cattle
>>736965501Basically every game has graphics presets these days, they'll spit out the average FPS for whatever the medium or default preset is depending on rig, and that'll be the baseline expectation.
>>736964273It's /v/, I'm becoming convinced half this board uses translators to post. You'll see anons get clearly confused or start crying at people the instant they use anything but the most plain, basic English. My favorite is when they start arguing with people that aren't even disagreeing with them purely due to their own illiteracy. And then people wonder why native English speakers insult ESLs.
>>736962817the sad part is, nobody will ever even come close to GabeN
I wonder if companies will blame Valve for lost sales when people decide not to buy a game because of the estimates. They can even argue that they fixed the performance in a patch and now all the stats and reviews are outdated and Valve is being malicious keeping old estimates up.
doesnt mean shit with all the varied settings and upscaling
>>736966105ThisI don't want Steam to tell me I can run it at 15 fps only because dumbfuck mexicans keep playing on Ultra settings causing the data to skew.
>>736964923>payment processors get less moneyOY VEY, THE SIX BILLIONS
>>736965819>half this board uses translators to postm8 half this board is bots, and that's a low estimate
>>736965819>I'm becoming convinced half this board uses translators to postI doubt it because popular translators at least don't make stupid grammatical errors you see here all the time.
>>736962817I hope it shames unrealslop 5 devscrapcom hasn't gotten nearly enough shit as they should have for dragon's ligma 2 and mh milds>no more refundsand this is a big L.
>>736966464it means people won't NEED to refund, ESL-kun
>>736965632There’s lots of console games that have FPS under 20 and you will still find a way to say it’s our fault for using a console. I have a gaming PC too.
>>736964901It could easily show a range between the lowest and highest FPS people get on your hardware and that would achieve essentially the same thing.>>736966105>>736966161The above would fix this.
>>736963069Paint is too hard.
>>736966464This doesn’t mean they’ll take away your ability to refund, you illiterate retard
>>736962817The failed gender shifters who raid this board aren't going to like this one.
>>736962817Yeah i'll just keep buying and refunding. Thanks tho.
>>736962817>AAAsloppy devs are going to lose even more money nowS
>>736964901If a game is getting less than 30fps on a 7800X3D/RTX 4080, why would I be retarded enough to think it's going to run well with a could of settings changes? It's clearly a dogshit game made by subhumans and doesn't deserve any money.
>>736965609and you know they only do it to abuse steam's lenient refund policies for free games.
>>736962817wow i remember like 4 years ago i bought black ops 3 and it wouldnt open no matter what, i tried a million things, then i just refunded steam saying it didnt work, so they're probably doing this thanks to me so you guys can thank me for it
>>736967430That's a rather deceptive thumbnail. My penis and I are both disappointed.
Last time I did a steam hardware survey, it got half of my info wrong though. I forget exactly what it said, bit I think it read my 4070ti as some form of 4060, and also got my ram wrong iirc.
>>736968329What if your components were mislabeled?
>>736968406By windows device manager, and hwmonitor? The only odd one out is steam, I think that's where the problem is
Nothing personnel, kiddo.
>>736962817I don't want my kiddie gaming software scraping my system and knowing what hardware I have, if I can help it. I guess if you value your own privacy, you'll uninstall this botnet spy software like I will be. 99% of everyone else is just a sheeple who will gladly find this acceptable.
>>736962817if it doesn't show fps with feamegen ultramax + dlls ultra performance this is very nvidiaphobic and benchod luddite bastard
>>736967675Thanks faggot
>>736968716You can opt out of their hardware surveys you know
i'm dubious. what if a game runs at ~45 fps for one section but 60fps for the rest of the game.will it show 50fps average? will it say 45fps minimum? fps is so variable this is kinda stupid
>>736967627>steam's refund policies>lenientThey're literally the only storefront jewish enough to have actually went to court to fight having to provide refunds after Australian courts demanded them to, and their refund conditions are the least flexible. Valve are anticonsumer turbokikes.
>>736964923Oh no the trillion dollar company with like 20 employees has to pay 0.005% processing fees
>>736964923Oh no, how will gabe ever be able to afford his 768th megayacht while running online casinos and a video game rental chain...
But can it show how woke a game is before buying?
I'm not sure an estimated FPS in isolation is enough to determine how someone's game is going to pan out on other frontsLike I could easily run the Oblivion Remaster out of the box near max settings but if I climbed a little hill at night and turned the camera up my computer violently shat itself so I had to reign it in. Having to give some graphics up like that could be a major turnoff for someone else. Personally I played on clunkers for most of my life so I don't particularly give a fuck, but that's just me.
>>736964901Are you dumb? They will only show like the average default settings, aka low 80, medium 70, high 60, ultra 50fps
>>736962817Why does this make people so angry?
>>736964901Dumb anime poster
Thank god some of the words have blue font, I was about to drop that paragraph
I don't see a problem here.I don't refund games due to fps issues.Because I have a 5090.I also tried to suck my own dick before but I was too fat I think.
>>736963096>>736964246>look ma, I'm being retarded on the internet!Valve will refund you even if you just say the game was donkey dogshit.
>>736969572wrongthey're the only ones that went to court over it because pc is the only platform where people have standardslook up sony and nintendo's terms right now, you dumb nigger
>>736962817Still not using Steam until it turns into a proper storefront instead of a DRM platform. I want to manage and own the licenses I pay for, not be given limited access to games Valve owns.
>>736970438then you're just mentally illdigital reselling will never be a thing and you have to be a retard to not be able to understand why
>>736970438>I want to manage and own the licenses I pay forwhat does this even mean?
>>736970557I didn't even mention anything about reselling you subhuman shit-for-brains mongoloid. With "buying" from steam I don't even have any proof of owning a license. Steam goes tits up and then what? What if I decide to get the game I have a license for through P2P or a file hosting service? How do I legally show that I have rights to use this software? Valve doesn't even sell licenses. They lease a license they own for you to use under their permission like the little cuck that you are.
>>736962817“no more refunds” sounds ominous
>>736970757now you have a steam account and receipts of you buying gamesand you're an incomprehensible moron if you think is going to be planning around end of lifing everything when they're at their fucking peaksteam allows you to back your games up and crack them, just fucking do that instead
>>736970865Good thing it's AI bullshit and not an official statement from Valve.
>>736970882>if you think is going to be planningSpeak English, you retarded shitskin. I don't care if anyone is planning on anything. I'll continue to pirate because as of today there are literally no options in terms of actually buying anything. You are a genuine fucking moron if you think "just be perpetually forced into being subservient to Steam if you want to play the games you "bought"" is a valid argument in any way shape or form.
>>736971072i just dropped one word in there, valvequit acting like this is a fucking work email, you understood everything>I'll continue to pirate because as of today there are literally no options in terms of actually buying anything.no, the reality is that you're just a freeloading nigger looking for meta excuses like what you're talking about fucking matters when you always have piracy as recoursesteam still lets you download games you bought 2 decades ago
A system like this will never ever work. Too many variables.
>>736962817So is this going to be like "Userbenchmark" for Steam?
>>736964274Every time you retards say this it turns out to be nothing.>Whoa you guys look! The MSM and Journos are seething about this thing!>Look inside>It's like 10 random articles from a medium that pumps out thousands a day, each article has like 50 views before it gets linked for views from ragebaitersStop falling for this fucking shit you idiots.
>>736971327wrongthe only relevant variables are the gpu and the settingsif you have one gpu performance data point you can reliably estimate everyone's performance with those settings, more data points just give you more data points to estimate everything else with until you have all the combinations covered
>>736963096>>736964246>Shitskins can't readlollmao even
>>736971442You aren't considering that different people have different preferences. It's worthless.
>>736971667or mods
>>736962817what about fucking aspect ratio, steam, you piece of shit. it's 2026 and like 10% of games freak absolutely the fuck out if you have anything bigger than 16:9, another 30% don't support it but at least it works.
>>736962817>look at earth defense force store page>average 20 fpsIts gaming time
>>736963140Nobody owns anything You came empty handed and you will go empty handed Such is the cycle of lifePraise allah for he is the only one true god
